hangar-dev

[shy arch]

I didn’t understand what you guys meant by plugin repertory, is it like spigot’s plugin website where you can download plugin?

[random badger]

Yes but better, and for paper plugins 🙂

[shy arch]

nice

[pallid yoke]

Tbh, I just didn't think about it, I kinda assumed ppl know

But announcements reach way more ppl

[sly mason]

We really need a place where we can put just a small bit of info which people can read

[pallid yoke]

A hangar command would be a start too I guess

[random badger]

Yeah, I think like 30 people total know what hangar is

[radiant raptor]

means im special ;)

[random badger]

Well, not great if you want people to use it, but that comes a little later

[random badger]

Did you write the hangar bit of the announcement?

[pallid yoke]

No, but we all drafted the announcement in general

[random badger]

The “many people” part was kinda funny to me. We’ve been trying to get it to many people and… no luck so far

I think once there’s a legit beta up, that might attract more contributors

[pallid yoke]

Well, there are more than just us two

Yeah that too

[random badger]

No ik, but I wouldn’t qualify the contributors there are, as “many”

[sly mason]

GET TO IT

cracks whip

[graceful radish]

My 2c as a outsider that has not looked into hangar that far. This might be just because we already have spigot, maybe advertise a bit more on what you can deliver over platforms like spigotmc.org

Because i can't easily see what the difference would be other than devs having to upload to two different platforms now

[pallid yoke]

Yeah we gonna make like a fancy ass announcement with explanations and the differences and feature and stuff for when we launch beta

That's gonna be a good time I guess

The main thing @graceful radish: spigot decided to be dicks and ban paper plugins, that's when this all started

[graceful radish]

Ah, spigot being spigot again xD

I have mixed feeling about them

but i hope you can get hangar up and running, good luck on the project!

[pallid yoke]

Thank you!

[hoary prairie]

I mean spigot oof I saw a thread yesterday about Java 16 and people complaining about the legacy shit

And how the API is dinosaur

[sly mason]

Issue is that you do anything and people complain

We finally went component first and people started crying

[pallid yoke]

But we just let them cry and most did suck it up just fine

And the rest I don't care about really, that's what progress always brings

[sly mason]

The refusal to move the API forward has created a bunch of devs who are scared and even incpable of adopting to change to move forward, one of the most prominent devs in this community literally started asking for a code handout, meanwhile charging people for lessons...

But, part of hanger has been a long term desire, just, never been a super imminent "we need it now" until spigot started going against stuff like "this plugin has additional features/performance on paper" messages and in general our desire to split away from the complatency of this API

I really can't wait for sane mappings, I have so much shit in my todo list pending on that

[hoary prairie]

Wait who did that lol

[sly mason]

MineAcademy

[hoary prairie]

Lmao

Kangarko xD

But yeh paper needs to hardfork from spigot

To get some real modern API

I can finally fully ditch spigot then

[meager locust]

what is hangar

[barren shale]

see the channel description

[cedar depot]

Did they actually? what the hell

[modest bison]

plugins published on spigot need to run on spigot, what a surprise lol

it's dev bukkit all over again ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[random badger]

Yeah, I mean it’s not crazy. Plugins that work fine on both are allowed, even ones that only work better on paper iirc, it’s the ones that require paper for all main functionality

[woven ridge]

less so, but also those using paperlib's SuggestPaper functionality

but, I mean, makes sense still to a point

[modest bison]

yeah, even if it wasn't about a competing fork, such advertising would still not fly

[random badger]

Wait, you can’t use paperlib suggest? 👀

[modest bison]

you cannot advertise ingame or in the console

[mellow pebble]

I think there have been issues with plugins getting removed for that in the past

[ember ivy]

doesn't Ess do it lol

[untold idol]

:>

we don't use the suggestpaper stuff but there is a message which says you're running on a server that has limited api functionality

i forget if we link to paper

[modest bison]

I mean you could just not show the message when downloaded from spigot ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[untold idol]

if they come for support we usually always suggest paper

also I think if you actually attempt to use a feature that needs paper we say get paper

[modest bison]

could just not enable the feature 👀

[ember ivy]

meanwhile on dbo

(i think WE/WG still run on craftbukkit tho soooo)

[modest bison]

yeah, ChestShop does too 👀

pretty sure the blocking of fork stuff on dbo ended when the original bukkit team stepped down though

[untold idol]

ess didn't compile against the spigot api until md_5 forced you too too

[random badger]

mini, idk how much thought you've put into cache stuff, but what should make use of springs cache system? cant really do that for anything that changes a model right?

[pallid yoke]

Well, we can invalidate

[random badger]

so is it just for GET stuff?

[pallid yoke]

The getters in the services should be cachables and the other methods most likely need to invalidate

[random badger]

ok, so thats a reason to have methods in various services to update models. can invalidate anytime those are called I would imagine

[pallid yoke]

Yep

Which is why in theory no dao should be injected outside of it's "owning" service

Cause I am not sure if we can or should have cachables on dao

[random badger]

does that work if the method is called from another member method of the service? I seem to recall seeing somewhere that the cache wont work in that situation

[pallid yoke]

Nah, spring ignores calls to sister methods

I think the overhead would be too bad or skrh

[random badger]

ok, so might have to have additional invalidates on other service methods

[pallid yoke]

We also could seperate logic to other classes or smth but that sounds like overkill

[random badger]

yeah, if its just updating, idk if thats needed

[pallid yoke]

And like, we don't even need to cache everything, just like the shit that gets called all the time when you visit pages

[random badger]

yeah, users, projects, pages, versions, project channels

I think that's it?

the home page

oh, I guess can get more specific, like version dependencies and stuff

[pallid yoke]

Permissions for users I guess

[random badger]

is it only declared sister methods? what about ones elsewhere on the inheritance tree?

[pallid yoke]

Uuh

I would say also no

[random badger]

Not sure why that latest ci failed

[woven ridge]

github container registry had scheduled maintenance

here: https://www.githubstatus.com/incidents/wh3yy9v46929

[random badger]

Mmm ok

[cold ridge]

who are the stargazers?

[pallid yoke]

ppl who clicked "star"

exactly how github does it

https://github.com/PaperMC/Hangar/stargazers

[cold ridge]

And what are the flags?

[pallid yoke]

flagging a resource or user is basically the same as reporting them

[cold ridge]

like about some bad staff?

[pallid yoke]

yep

https://i.imgur.com/OCzwROK.png

[cold ridge]

ok, thx

[pallid yoke]

did something fuck with eslint?

https://i.imgur.com/p2Ry5xI.png

like wtf

[pallid yoke]

idk what am doing wrong that the lang doesn't show up

like it shows up, but the strings dont

heh got it

https://i.imgur.com/NRCPOBS.png

[radiant raptor]

i wonder when hangar is finished if there'll be a discord bot logging plugin releases/updates

[pallid yoke]

yeah, could be fun, like how we have the forum feed

well, actually

its technically covered by the forum feed already since hangar releases are posted to a forum section

[radiant raptor]

oh that's neat

[pallid yoke]

https://hangar.benndorf.dev/ language switcher with support for Chinese is now deployed

if somebody can double check those make sense that would be really appreciated, lol

[radiant raptor]

i could ask a friend ^^

if, you know i could see the switcher

[pallid yoke]

footer

[radiant raptor]

ah

dum

[cold ridge]

damn, you have so many messages

[pallid yoke]

its a big project ^^

[radiant raptor]

such project, many wow

[random badger]

@pallid yoke how does it work when there’s no equivalent Chinese key, Like if we add a new English one? Does it fall back to English?

[pallid yoke]

Yep

[random badger]

Ok good. Better that than showing the translation key

[random badger]

Speaking of cookies and the locale one, do we need some “agree to cookies” thing?

Do we have any non-functional cookies right now?

[pallid yoke]

Maybe just steal what the website has

[random badger]

got this, I imagine this is smth you have to do mini

[random badger]

so uh, can you not actually create an organization on ore?

it seems to be broken

[pallid yoke]

Pretty sure we talked about this before and thought no

[random badger]

oh, maybe

[pallid yoke]

Yeah that's sponges client ID

Haven't looked into sso yet

[pallid yoke]

Ah yes, it's Monday

[deft drift]

aight so i figured out that I can get further if I use mvn spring-boot:run but it still failed something about flyway now, and I did start the dev db in docker https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/1fb140a3275a4576863cb915fbb531cc

[pallid yoke]

Drop and recreate the schema in the db

There were incompatible changes since you last did so

We aren't good at writing migrations yet ^^

[deft drift]

lmao

[deft drift]

went into datagrip, deleted the public inside of hangar (idk pgsql very well) and now this: https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/65aea0b8da0c4689818442e8e4474879

did i drop wrong?

and this got created https://static.jacobandersen.dev/shared/Similar-Megalotomusquinquespinosus-9e.png

[pallid yoke]

Huh

I mean, that $user, public looks strange

I would expect only public there

[deft drift]

thought so as well

[pallid yoke]

Try deleting that schema again

And then manually creating a new schema

It's all possible via UI

And name the schema public

I think $zser, public is your search path and that got flyaway confused

[deft drift]

worked

the first it actually started woot

[pallid yoke]

Wooo

[random badger]

The migrations won’t create the public schema. If you delete, you have to recreate it empty afterwards

Hey, you know what should take travertines place in the 6 pinned repos for the org…

[pallid yoke]

Heh I'll bring it up

Actually, now that am core team, I think I have full org perms ^^

Yep I could change it ^^

[random badger]

Yeah, “bring it up”. Hangar has infiltrated the core team, just do it. 😛

[pallid yoke]

But we gotta uphold the myth that paper is a democracy

[random badger]

Ugh, why is it only doing like a few dependabots at a time? I tried finding a setting for it last night, but couldn’t see anything

[pallid yoke]

There is a max limit

Lemme see if I see a setting

open-pull-requests-limit

Set that to 10 per language?

Or higher?

[random badger]

There a reason not to set it to 999999?

[pallid yoke]

Mmh

Default limit is 5

Security updates are excluded, they have an internal limit of 10

[random badger]

I guess what whatever the max is then

[pallid yoke]

The reason you don't set it to smth excessive so that they shouldn't pile up when ppl dont look at it regularly I guess

Lemme set it to 20 and we will see how next Monday goes

[sly mason]

casually unpins hangar when he sees it

[pallid yoke]

I didn't ping yet, go give you option in <secret internal channel> smh

[random badger]

Pretty rude to post channel mentions that people can’t join you know… 😛

[pallid yoke]

There, edited 😂

"PaperMC’s pins have been updated. Drag and drop to reorder them."

Now we gotta bike shed the order 😂

[random badger]

“Bike shed”?

[pallid yoke]

"The act of wasting time on trivial details while important matters are inadequately attended is sometimes known as bikeshedding. That term originates from Parkinson's observation of a committee organized to approve plans for a nuclear power plant. As Parkinson noted, the committee devoted a disproportionate amount of time to relatively unimportant details -- such as the materials for a bicycle storage shed -- which limited the time available to focus on the design of the nuclear plant. "

https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/bikeshedding

[random badger]

There a reason vue is even in the package.json? I assume it’s a dependency of any number of the other packages we have

Cause dependabot isn’t gonna upgrade the compiler at the same time since it’s not in package.json

[pallid yoke]

I honestly have no idea how transitive dependencies with npm work

Nuxt should depend on Vue so we shouldn't need it, right?

[random badger]

I think I added it to try and get rid of the “missing peer dependency” messages

It worked fine before, I just always try and remove warning msgs whenever I see them

[pallid yoke]

So that would indicate that it wants us to have the transitive dep ourself?

[random badger]

I think. Actually, I think there still is a missing peer dep msg for the template compiler.

I can’t check rn tho

[pallid yoke]

Neither can I

Someday I will invest time and learn how this shit works

I just know that all transitive deps are in the lock file

[random badger]

can you manually force dependabot to do its thing?

[pallid yoke]

I don't know

I don't think so?

they don't have a website like renovate, right?

oh they have

[random badger]

cause I added the missing peer deps, and vue and vue-template-compiler need to be updated together

oh wait, it totally handled that

LOL

didnt realize it had special conditions for deps that had to be bumped together

[pallid yoke]

yeah the website is just for the old dependabot

oh thats interesting

I wonder how that works

[random badger]

im guessing its just manually defined presets

[pallid yoke]

I remember when dependabot was new and I would just ping the dev on a PR and he would fix stuff

those were the days

[random badger]

well, idk whats going on with that pr, it says it updates both, but the versions still seem to be mismatched

[pallid yoke]

mmh, its the same version for both now, 2.6.14, no?

vue-server-renderer@2.6.12

heh

thats another one

thats not template compiler

which is fun, cause thats transitive again?

no its not transitive of vue or vue-template-compiler, maybe of nuxt?

[random badger]

I didnt see any other warnings given?

[pallid yoke]

@nuxt/core@2.15.6 -> @nuxt/server@2.15.6 -> @nuxt/vue-renderer@2.15.6 -> vue-server-renderer "^2.6.12"

[random badger]

I didnt even realize it was a different one 😅

[pallid yoke]

so dependabot just needs to bump vue server rendered, it should be allowed to since its ^

[random badger]

dependabot only updates stuff in package.json right?

[pallid yoke]

which I would say is wrong

renovate doesn't do that

[random badger]

well, adding that as a dep seemed to fix it.

show off @pallid yoke

typing in a restricted channel

[pallid yoke]

Oh lmfao

This is why I can't be trusted with permissions

Let's me go to sleep before cat sees that 😂

[random badger]

can a mod delete #760946492483043342 message
its ruining the whole channel

[sly mason]

[cobalt oyster]

I'm tempted...

[pallid yoke]

I did

[modest forge]

oof

[random badger]

good. I'd say grounds for expulsion from core team if you didnt

[pallid yoke]

😂 😂

[random badger]

oh you totally can manually check btw https://github.com/PaperMC/Hangar/network/updates

[pallid yoke]

Ooh

Fancy

[random badger]

spring 2.5.0 supports java 16, although idk if all our other dependencies are there yet

[random badger]

instead of trying to divine the platforms the project supports based on what platforms various versions support, suppose we have that as a setting that project members can change?

can obv be changed, but require an input on project creation. I think that'll be more concrete than relying on promoted versions to determine what the project supports

[pallid yoke]

What would that change?

For like search or where would we display that?

[random badger]

In the project list

Like, on the home page

Ore uses promoted versions to show that, but idk if there’s smth better

[pallid yoke]

Ah yeah

Well, not sure It matters

[leaden lily]

That language switcher is really cool. Doesn't even need to reload the page.

[pallid yoke]

javascript is magic, eh

[radiant raptor]

^

[random badger]

apparently "Documenter" isn't a word, what's a better word for the role?

documentarian

[mellow pebble]

Documentator

idk

[ember ivy]

https://i.imgur.com/zL9QrGs.png

https://docs.spongepowered.org/stable/en/about/staff.html#spongedocs-editors

[mellow pebble]

CEE

[modest forge]

I vote for Documentarian

(or just Docs Editor)

[safe harbor]

A Documentarian is someone who makes documentaries

[modest forge]

The Story of PaperMC, now streaming on Netflix

[random badger]

another one of mini's projects

[radiant raptor]

i'll edit it /s

[random badger]

Mini, why don’t you use the existing json object stuff for discourse over the one you just recently added to the pom.xml

[pallid yoke]

I think I was lazy and didn't wanna create objects and I like that particularly api for chaining stuff

[random badger]

I just noticed that when I was messing about with fixing the tests that it was giving a warning for overlapping classes

[pallid yoke]

I mean, if you are bored you can rewrite that to use object mapping, but I just really couldn't be bothered to do that, it was ugly enough to get discourse to play nice

overlapping classes is smth by maven shade, right? that doesn't really matter

[random badger]

nah, I didnt think it did, but thats part of my thing against warning msgs. I try to get rid of all of them

[pallid yoke]

you can't get rid of all warnings in maven shade

it also yells at module infos and stuff

if you wanna get obsessed with warnings: do you have the sonarlint plugin for IJ?

[random badger]

I had it, but then I got rid of it

[pallid yoke]

I have at for yelling at my code, when am bored at work I just start tackling sonarlint warnings

[random badger]

I feel like thats one you have to configure a bunch

like theres warnings for having too many constructor arguments

[pallid yoke]

which normally makes sense

but then you get DI

[random badger]

yeah, we've got some with like 15 arguments I think

and models with a bunch

[pallid yoke]

yeah, but those we also don't call manually

constructors with many args that you call manually are painful, thats why that warning exists, but its hard to tell it to ignore all the automatic cases

[random badger]

Are we gonna want to have tests for a bunch of stuff? After fixing the meta tests, I was thinking about maybe doing some more

[pallid yoke]

be my guest

I love unit tests

I hate writing the first one for a class

[sly mason]

test ALL THE THINGS

[pallid yoke]

after that its much easier and the benefit is undeniable

minimessage has 100+ test cases and I fucking love it

I am really bad at writing tests, but I wanna improve cause it makes stuff so much nicer in general

[random badger]

I expect spring tries to make it super easy to do, and baeldung will certainly be frequented while I figure out this

[pallid yoke]

Well, there are multiple ways to test stuff

You can boot up a test spring and use DI and stuff

You can boot up an almost complete spring and test rest stuff

You can do what I did for the meta and do normal unit tests

We most likely want a mix of everything

[random badger]

well, its not entierly normal unit tests for the meta

you use di to find/load the various handlers

(this is the msg I was talking about btw)

[pallid yoke]

Oh

Why the fuck do we have vadin

Lmao

And that version is from 2013

[pallid yoke]

Ah

Well, we want smth like that, unit test still, and also some at high level with the REST stuff, cause those are Integration Tests

Test pyramid and stuff

[random badger]

yep

well, sonar lint has introduced be to Cognitive Complexity

complaining about a very lengthy method VersionFactory#publishPendingVersion

[dim minnow]

can someone tell me when 1.17 is coming out for paper
thx

[woven ridge]

.eta

[modest bison]

(See also #❗-1-17) Paper updates have no ETA, ever. See the following for more information: https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/5785

[radiant raptor]

+1 hour of delay

[dim minnow]

can i ask when u think it will be out?

[woven ridge]

there is no eta

no one knows

[dim minnow]

ok thx

[pallid yoke]

Yeah, I refactor stuff into multiple methods at work often after seen that and create more readable code as a result

Traditional I would subdivide methods by comments

Into sections

But methods obviously are better for bigger chunks

[random badger]

I mean the thing is… none of that code is like for anything but that one thing. Idk, just feels weird to split it up, only to chain it together.

[gusty orbit]

Will hangar have better ui than spigot resource

[random badger]

Gettin kinda tired of your questions in various places

[gusty orbit]

Wdym

[random badger]

Think about your question, and think about the relationship between paper and spigot already

[pallid yoke]

Yes and no, splitting stuff in methods creates easier to digest chunks of code when reading it

[random badger]

Paper does what over spigot? makes improvements wherever it can

[gusty orbit]

Ok lol

So i assume that hangar will have a better ui

[random badger]

Ok, maybe it’s your kekw emote usage that’s annoying me idk

[gusty orbit]

Hmm sry

[pallid yoke]

No, we will obviously go out of our way and create something that's worse

What kinda question is that?

If you got nothing to contribute to this channel, please just mute it and leave it alone

[random badger]

didnt you disable tests somewhere mini? can probably re-enable those now

[pallid yoke]

I think it's disabled in the action

Not sure if you copied that when you refactored them

[random badger]

😡😡😡 I have been trying to make this work for a few hours now… https://stackoverflow.com/questions/61526870/spring-boot-custom-bean-loader

[cobalt oyster]

beans!

[random badger]

Maybe I just need a break or smth. I keep getting an error saying that it can’t get the jdbi bean cause it’s still being created

[random badger]

Whatever, I give up. It’s working, but only cause I bypassed the DataSourceAutoConfiguration

[pallid yoke]

Doubt I get to take a look this week, never touched that stuff before

Ill look thru GitHub at work later

But I don't care if we don't use that auto configuration, that's prolly just fine

[random badger]

Well, idk how to have it use the values in the application.yml. Like, to change the password later on?

[pallid yoke]

If in doubt we use our own values 🤷‍♂️

[raven warren]

can i use hangar on cpanel

this

https://github.com/PaperMC/Hangar

can i run it on cpanel?

[pallid yoke]

Wat

You aren't supposed to host that yourself

Its gonna be a website you can use

[raven warren]

wait really

oh

ok lol

[jagged jewel]

hot take: hangar should support premium plugins, but require the source code to be published publicly (under GPL) and have solid quality standards - no obfuscation, no shitty licenses, nothing like that

[stiff token]

AFAIK the plan is to support plugins with premium support.

And I believe most if not all requirements you mentioned not necessarily will be hard requirements, but will be clear indicator and warnings if for example plugin is obfuscated etc.

[jagged jewel]

oh thats great then

i was under the impression it wouldn't support premium at all

[stiff token]

Nothing is set in stone yet.

And rules will be made later, but the general consensus seemed to be that premium support good, pay to download bad.

[pallid yoke]

I have toyed with the idea of a itch.io like pay what you want kinda thing

Idk we will see

Initially we will launch without any of that

[modest bison]

I like it too, it's really nice

[modest bison]

I mean, technically it's all open source already 👀

[jagged jewel]

fax

i mean for all the plugins on hangar

GPL or GTFO

[random badger]

nothing solid decided yet. its been talked about having a special label for open source projects, prioritizing them when searching, or just requiring open source all together.

[jagged jewel]

not remotely an authority but my ideal marketplace at least would be:

• force open-source
• allow premium pay for download (stripe support)
• high quality standards
• no obfuscation

but thats just my 2 cents

[safe harbor]

Some badge can/will be beneficial in searches & results differing from non oss.

[pallid yoke]

I don't think we are in a position were we can ban closed source or obfuscation

We can penalize it tho

I 100% want a scary warning when you download smth obfuscated

[random badger]

Yeah, I don't think we can outright ban that either, but employ other methods to encourage those things

[jagged jewel]

yeah thats a great idea

[safe harbor]

A source code field being mandatory

[jagged jewel]

^^^

[safe harbor]

But, going oss is a decision/standard you follow. Not a (maintenance) burden something/someone puts on your shoulders for sake of publishing your resource on xy spot.

[jagged jewel]

would be great to have hangar be a place to download/buy high quality resources

[pallid yoke]

That's not the main goal

[jagged jewel]

what's the main goal out of interest?

[pallid yoke]

The main goal is for hangar to be a place for paper plugins in general

Cause there is no other place

[random badger]

the forums

[jagged jewel]

paper specifically, assuming especially after the hard fork that no-one shuts up about on spigotmc?

[random badger]

well right now, you cant post plugins that only work on paper on spigotmc

[pallid yoke]

Well, there are already paper exclusive plugins

That have no real place

[random badger]

paper adds quite a bit of API that wont work on spigot servers

[jagged jewel]

you can make paper exclusive plugins on spigot but you can't do premium paper-only iirc

but yeah paper API is great

especially if you don't like poking around in nms

[pallid yoke]

No, Plugins that don't work on spigot yet yoinked

[random badger]

iirc you cant put paper exclusive plugins on spigot, regardless of premium status

[jagged jewel]

oh mental

[random badger]

your plugin can have paper-specific features, but if it entirely relies on paper, no

[jagged jewel]

yeah thats what i do with ecoenchants

or at least used to do before spigot added the api feature i wanted

[random badger]

like lots of plugins make use of paper api, but also work on spigot, but some only work on paper

and those dont have a place to live

[jagged jewel]

if(running paper) {
  do shit
}

i haven't seen the announcement about paper dropping API support, is that a thing that's happening?

like not being fully compatible with spigot anymore

[random badger]

that might happen eventually, but its not on any calendar

[jagged jewel]

ahh ok

[random badger]

for now, all* spigot plugins will still work on paper

*k, not literally all, but almost all

[jagged jewel]

there's some PR's i'd love to make to spigot but i can't since they'd break backwards compat

which is

[random badger]

yes, that is one of the benefits of paper hard-forking, is it can make some breaking changes that people have wanted for a long time

[sly mason]

our stance is to not break API for the sake of breaking API but to start doing the things which shoulda been done years ago and will likely break stuff in the future when mojang requires it

e.g. the biomes API which bukkit was working on replacing years ago

[jagged jewel]

like reworking the entire potion system to get rid of the fucking potiontype enum which sucks dick and balls

and has no reason to exist

[random badger]

well yeah, there are quite a few registries that should exist

but, enums...

[jagged jewel]

problem with enums is that you can't even reflect your way around them fully

[pallid yoke]

Death to all enums

[jagged jewel]

you can add to an enum with enough reflection but it breaks with gson which checks fields

which means that there's literally no way to fully register custom potion effects

and since learning that i've stopped using basically any enums in my plugins

[sly mason]

getting rid of enums is a key goal, especially as we are sorta pushing on mojang to data drive stuff

[jagged jewel]

any plans to make the paper jar include the NMS mappings?

[pallid yoke]

Most likely not at runtime

At least at first

[jagged jewel]

thats a shame

[pallid yoke]

(fight me @barren shale)

[random badger]

someone's got a project for that already right?

[pallid yoke]

But devs can still use them for their plugins

[sly mason]

first goal is not at runtime but to map the server back to spigot

[jagged jewel]

but when writing code that uses NMS we would be able to use the mappings?

[pallid yoke]

Paperweight can do both runtime and compiletime mojmap already, yeah

[sly mason]

tooling will help will mojang > spigot mappings for plugins, i think is the goal

[barren shale]

I will

[sly mason]

long term plan is for runtime mojmap and translate for spigot until we drop that

[jagged jewel]

thats sick

[random badger]

because Couldn't has a ' in it

prettier auto-reformats it to use " in that case

basically, just do whatever you want, and prettier should reformat it for you 🙂

[pallid yoke]

Uhi, you figured out the bean resolving, nice

[random badger]

I still dont quite understand why I had to manually do the DataSource bean...

but it works 🙂

and I'm glad there aren't any more IJ warnings about cant find those beans

[pallid yoke]

Yeah ^^

[random badger]

I can't really figure out how to do unit tests on like even the simplest stuff

like I looked at ChannelService thinking I could easily figure out a way to unit test creating invalid channels

based on already existing channels, but ugh

cant autowire the ChannelService without adding like 20 classes to the ContextConfiguration annotation cause there are so many autowire deps for every service

[pallid yoke]

That's what I mean about the start being the biggest hurdle

[main lava]

i changed my username and my data is lost in my own paper server what can i do

[modest forge]

This isn't the Paper support channel; ask in #paper-help

[sly mason]

!warn @main lava Do not flood questions across the discord

[spiral jolt]

:raised_hands: Warned ZoopyZanas#4527 (Do not flood questions across the discord) [1 total infraction] -- electronicboy#8869.

[pallid yoke]

I know

use the benndorf.dev one

[dapper condor]

Sorry if I disturb, how is the hangar project going, are there any ETAs? Couldn't find these informations anywhere else

[pallid yoke]

nah

currently all focus is on paper 1.17

[stiff token]

There's no ETAs, but it's getting worked on and getting ready for beta release. When it'll be - no one knows.
Might want to read the linked conversation as well as take a look at https://github.com/PaperMC/Hangar/projects/1#card-57873120

[pseudo delta]

I hope there is dark mode xd the blinding light theme on spigot one hurts

[pallid yoke]

there is 🙂

[pseudo delta]

i love you

[radiant raptor]

it's dark mode by default iirc

[stiff token]

Yeah, works for me out of the box: https://hangar.benndorf.dev/

[ember ivy]

dark mode is only for $10+ patreon tier

runs

[safe harbor]

There's no theme but darkmode 😎

(yet)

[tacit loom]

@_@

[radiant raptor]

if you want every website to be dark mode use browser extension dark reader lol

[north marsh]

Can Anybody create me a plugin that logs every packet that is sent

[pallid yoke]

This isn't the place for that

[ivory ingot]

I've one

[halcyon current]

is hangar planning on allowing the sale of paid plugins?

[pallid yoke]

not at launch

[halcyon current]

is it still early in dev or is there a release date set in mind?

[safe harbor]

Tho you can donate to plugins

[pallid yoke]

thats a poc and not a polished feature yet

[pallid yoke]

its in pretty much the last state of dev, no date or anything tho

[obtuse laurel]

Why is

Not why

What is

Hangar

[stiff token]

Read the channel topic please.

[ember ivy]

🎉 🎉 30% OFF 💯 SALE 🎉 🎉 LIMITED TIME ONLY HAPPY PRIDE MONTH ULTIMATE KITPVP

plugin is actually always at that price

[safe harbor]

Unicode emojis are fine.

[ember ivy]

paperchan emoji or riot

[safe harbor]

discourse supports custom emojis

[ember ivy]

tbh i'd deal with emoji if there were some guidelines about excessive use and using the title for non-title shit

[safe harbor]

remind to assign paperchan to your name

Sounds very lame

[ember ivy]

that's already crap tho

[safe harbor]

Yeah, idm emojis but excessive use or zalgo is ass

[ember ivy]

🔥 BLAZING 🔥 FAST 🔥 ASYNC 🌐 WORLD 🌐 EDIT 🎉 SO 🔥 LIT 🔥 UR SERVER 🖥️ WILL EXPLODE 💥

[modest bison]

imo stuff like that should be limited to a tag line

"⚠️ XRay Detection [1.8-1.17] ⚠️ 24/7 Support | SQLite | Frequent Updates | Easy To Use | GUI Support" 👀

[ember ivy]

yea that's what i meant by "using titles for non-title shit"

[modest bison]

maybe I should just do something against that on spigot

[ember ivy]

i mean, does spigot have rules against that?

afaict there's only premium resource guidelines?

[fluid stratus]

But if they don't have a bunch of emojis, how will I be able to distinguish between the hundreds of ClearChats? /s

[ember ivy]

🚮 YET 🚮 ANOTHER 🚮 GENERIC 🚮 TRASHCAN 🚮 PLUGIN | GUI SUPPORT | SUPPORTS MC ALPHA 1.2.6 - CUBEWORLD 3.6 🚮 🚮 🚮

[fluid stratus]

That's better

[modest bison]

there are no rules against it besides common "spam" ones

[teal smelt]

honestly as a user I would prefer clean titles and then maybe a second-line field where they can add those tags/"attractive" things (i really have no clue who chooses a plugin because of such annoying titles, they rather scare me off)

[pallid yoke]

Hangar has a plugin name and a tag line

Name is tightly restricted to be an actual name

Tag line is Unicode

https://hangar.benndorf.dev/

[modest bison]

why is there no version? smh

[pallid yoke]

Good catch, should also be the same component as the user page list

https://hangar.benndorf.dev/MiniDigger

But yeah, version would be nice

Issue please 🙈

[teal smelt]

I am already in love with it then ❤️

[random badger]

@pallid yoke which version, the MC version?

[pallid yoke]

That too I guess

But I meant promoted version

[random badger]

Can be multiple tho

Like latest for each platform, and MC version don’t matter really for waterfall/velocity

[lilac dirge]

Hey guys do tnt duplicators work with paper?

[wise herald]

It does, it's just a config option. Disabled normally as it is a exploit.

Go inside paper.yml

[copper perch]

.tnt

[modest bison]

BLOW THE PLACE UP -- DemonWav

[copper perch]

oh

[woven ridge]

.tntdupe

[modest bison]

Having problems with TNT Duping, Bedrock Breaking or Sand Duping Vanilla Exploits? See: https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/3854 for information.

[woven ridge]

But, wrong channel. Go to #paper-help

[dull jolt]

what is this

[stiff token]

Read the channel topic please.

[dull jolt]

so no more spigot?

[pallid yoke]

No more Spigot!

[modest bison]

I'll see about that :P

(totally not necroing)

[ripe sandal]

.

[lethal heath]

I should try to find a few hours next week to help out with some CSS tweaks, assuming someone isn’t already working on that

Handful of obvious issues on mobile, such as the signup/login buttons being pushed off-screen

[pallid yoke]

Nobody looked on that yet because we are not sure how to proceed styling wise

Currently it's just the default vuetify style and quite frankly it doesn't look nice

So we wanna write a theme for it or smth to give it a fresh coat of paint

But giving mobile a bit of a treatment already will not hurt

[lethal heath]

Ah okay makes sense!

[fierce ether]

I think

It annoys me that other plugin repositories aren't set up like this

Who all is actually downloading plugins on mobile?

[modest bison]

wat

[fierce ether]

I think the mobile interface should be set up so that there's a smaller download button and instead a larger share button

Because if I'm on mobile, all I really am doing is copying the url and sending it to someone on discord to download

[radiant raptor]

you can do that without a share button?

[fierce ether]

A copy button would be a lot nicer imo

[modest bison]

there isn't even a download button

[fierce ether]

mobile browsers suck

thats what i mean

since its not really all decided thats my idea for handling mobile

[modest bison]

also mobile is freaing broken anyways: https://i.phoenix616.dev/gcS6jqXB.png

[fierce ether]

nice

[modest bison]

not sure what you mean with "share button" btw

https://phoenix616.dev/📷/gaQIh7oW.png

[fierce ether]

idk on mobile it's always been, not necessarily difficult, but annoying to copy links

[modest bison]

lonk press, copy url?

or share url

[fierce ether]

you have to first scroll up, then click on the link, but oh wait, that deletes the text and you have to press a little share icon, then click copy

at least in chrome

[radiant raptor]

i think you're just nitpicking

[modest bison]

oof, hangar doesn't even show login/singup buttons in the bar

[radiant raptor]

and pressing cut

[fierce ether]

yeah sort of

[modest bison]

what do you mean by "scroll up"?

[fierce ether]

to show the browser search bar

[modest bison]

why?

just long press the link that you want to share

[fierce ether]

nop

Not at least on Spigot

[modest bison]

uhm

[fierce ether]

They don't give you direct links, it's behind cloudflares cdn

bukkit > spigot

[modest bison]

is this a ploy to get me to send you a screenshot of a mod view of spigot or something?

[fierce ether]

lmao no

[modest bison]

works like a charm

[fierce ether]

I think I'm just being difficult because I like to download plugins directly thru ssh

[modest bison]

well you didn't say that...

[fierce ether]

tru

[modest bison]

cloudflare will of course block non-browser downloads

[fierce ether]

can you follow the url in curl to get past the cdn? Or is it anti-bot

ah

[modest bison]

that's the whole reason for cloudflare to exist

[radiant raptor]

easy

[modest bison]

and that's what I hate about cloudflare & co but as always it's a small group ruining it for all the rest

[fierce ether]

Definitely

[modest bison]

more people should employ stuff like ipfs

I would love seeing hangar use that for distributing resources 👀

[fierce ether]

Bukkit and Spigot are more or less the same, one just isn't as active and the other doesnt let you have direct links lol

Googling

[modest bison]

one also doesn't show ads to logged in users while the other as a dumb ad-screen before downloads/external links but at least gives authors a cut

*has

[fierce ether]

Yeah they do

I would be fine with a subtle, non-intrusive ad being forced

[fluid stratus]

Oh that's where the ads are, I was wondering where the money cam from

[fierce ether]

like if people don't want ads, they're gonna use ad blockers anyways, don't make it a feature if you donate lol

[modest bison]

actually I'm not sure where the curseforge ads are right now

lol

[fluid stratus]

I don't think I have ever seen a curseforge ad

[modest bison]

oh, there is one https://phoenix616.dev/📷/genyh0Pb.png

[fierce ether]

I use Universal URL shortener, I'm ripping people off though 😔

oo

[radiant raptor]

it's just advertising their own things though

[modest bison]

yeah, it's not showing me ads on teh download

maybe they still get blocked by my network?

[fierce ether]

Do you have a Pi hole or smth?

[modest bison]

https://i.moep.tv/gbVokf2F.png

[radiant raptor]

getting a bit off topic though ^^

[modest bison]

I have a host block list on my openwrt router

[fierce ether]

Yeah we are

[modest bison]

but yeah, no idea where the money on dbo/curseforge is coming from right now lol

[shell fulcrum]

ads there also ads in the launcher

[modest bison]

for plugins?

[shell fulcrum]

oh plugins no idea

I think all the money goes into a pool then it split by game, then project with some magic formula

[modest bison]

odd

I'm not submitting my personal data for a 5 dollar gift card though lol

lets see how much chestshop made lol

actually it's 10 bucks now

[shell fulcrum]

Do you still need to submit your info now they are overwolf?

[modest bison]

good question

hm, looks like they only require 2fa now

[fluid stratus]

I don't think I needed to submit much more than just my PayPal last time, but maybe I already gave them all my data

[modest bison]

you had to provide your tax information at some point

[fluid stratus]

Was that also for PayPal? I thought that was only for the Amazon gft cards.

[modest bison]

I thought it was for all of them

also I would've assumed that more for paypal than anything else seeing as that's real money from a bank rather than just a gift lol

[fluid stratus]

Yeah, I only started using the PayPal options after the five dollar option got added to PayPal

[modest bison]

meh, I can't find the page to get the per project reward information on anymore lol

[shell fulcrum]

It gone, blame GDPR I been told

No idea who GDPR applies when it only numbers....

[modest bison]

wat

it was literally just download numbers per day

[shell fulcrum]

I know....

[modest bison]

(and points per day which is the interesting part)

well time to annoy them to hell I guess 👀

[fluid stratus]

Isn't that on your dashboard?

[modest bison]

nope

[fluid stratus]

Oh, did they (re)move it, I thought it was there last time I checked

[shell fulcrum]

Yes they removed it

[modest bison]

is there some official place they talked about that?

[shell fulcrum]

no idea, Curseforge discord?

[modest bison]

discord

official statements

[shell fulcrum]

"Disabled till rebuild"

https://unreal.codes/2021/6/17/Discord_zMHxaBFOzR.png

[modest bison]

oof

let's see if I can still pull it via api 👀

[pallid yoke]

No point in bike shedding the mobile layout when not a single dev minute was spend on mobile

[pallid yoke]

Hangar will use b2

That's distributed enough

[shell fulcrum]

Curseforge site is a mess and they (overwolf) know it it just a lot to fix a site like that

[modest bison]

b2?

can I host that myself?

[pallid yoke]

S3 but by backblaze

It's a CDN, so distributed

[modest bison]

so not better than what spigot/dev bukkit does -.-

gotta love random outages due to centralized failure

[pallid yoke]

Got CloudFlare in between

[modest bison]

just use ipfs and I'll run a node mirroring all the resources :P

(+ you can just use cloudflare too if you really want)

[pallid yoke]

I don't feel like learning that kinda stuff tbh

[modest bison]

https://cloudflare-ipfs.com/ ;D

[pallid yoke]

Using industry standard solutions is way easier

[modest bison]

ipfs is industry standard

if your industriy is free decentralized web

it also enables people on mars/really high latency to easily download stuff without having to wait minutes/hours

[pallid yoke]

My industry is Webservices and I haven't heard of anyone using that

[modest bison]

e.g. openbazaar did

(although they ran a fork)

[pallid yoke]

Plugins are small, if you can't download a plugin in a few seconds you ain't running a server

These problems don't apply to us so the solution doesn't make sense

[modest bison]

you realise that the ping to mars is something like 16 minutes?

[pallid yoke]

Again, not a problem I care about since last I checked nobody installed paper on a Mars Rover yet

[modest bison]

it was just a counter argument to your point, your "few seconds of download time" do not matter there

if you take a couple of minutes of even reaching the server

ipfs enables easy local caching as soon as someone requested it once

which is how you can do distributed, community provided cdns with it: people just setup ipfs and mirror all your files

and your ipfs gateway just gets the file from a random node (of course it does hash validation)

and cloudflare's gateway also caches it itself for a couple minutes/hours

[pallid yoke]

It doesn't solve a problem I have, so why would you use it?

[modest bison]

it does: cost

[pallid yoke]

I would still have to host all my data myself, right?

[modest bison]

and you also involve the community into it which helps adoption and long term usage

[pallid yoke]

To make sure it gets never lost

[modest bison]

you can host it wherever you want

[pallid yoke]

So storage is still there

[modest bison]

but you don't have to pay as much for traffic

[pallid yoke]

And bandwidth is free since backblaze and CloudFlare have a partnership

[modest bison]

you also avoid the single point of failure issue

[main lava]

B2 + cloudflare has zero download transit costs

[modest bison]

since when is cloudflare free?

[main lava]

Since years?

[modest bison]

last time I looked you had to pay once you reached a certain amount of data

can you really just pump petabytes over their netowrk? lol

[pallid yoke]

Paper serves tens of terabytes per month without any issues

[zealous charm]

You cant use it as a file host without them complaining after awhile

paper has the open source free pro thing

den was talking about it the other day

[modest bison]

oh so it's only because they "like" open source 👀

[main lava]

We served 40Tb in the past 30 days no issues

[pallid yoke]

Pro most likely just gives us more page rules then I guess

Anyways ipfs is a cool toy but it doesn't solve any issues we have

[modest bison]

I mean they are also heavily invested into the ETH infrastructure so I guess they are kinda the good gueys ¯_(ツ)_/¯

it still solves the "remote location download issue" :P

and the "single point of failure issue" ;)

if cloudflare or backblaze go down then good luck

[pallid yoke]

There is no remote location download issue with hangar

[modest bison]

(which they already did multiple times so yeah)

[main lava]

If cf goes down half the internet goes down

[modest bison]

yes

and this is a fucking issue

[pallid yoke]

If CloudFlare goes down ppl have other issues than our site

[modest bison]

why do people not see that?

at least you don't intend to run stuff on aws I guess but still...

cloudflare is part of the centralized cancer that the modern web is

[main lava]

I don't disagree that it's an issue, but you are spouting shit about industry standard. Cf is industry standard. If CF is down people being able to download a plugin isn't a concern at that point because they most likely can't reach their hosts panel either.

[pallid yoke]

We ain't solving that problem here tho

[modest bison]

so just because the majority does it wrong the minority which does it right and doesn't rely on centralized services should suffer, Caleb?

[small kayak]

centralized failures blabla no one fucking cares

[modest bison]

all I see is the "everyone is doing it so why shouldn't I?" argument

[small kayak]

there's more centralized failures to worry about than hangar dying for a minute

[untold idol]

please cry to the millions of other pages that use CF

[main lava]

This

[untold idol]

or pay for the infra hangar would need to not use it

[small kayak]

if cloudflare dies we've got bigger problems than hangar dying

cloudflare is the most bang for buck service you can get for stuff like this

the caching is great

[modest bison]

I literally said that I would host an IPFS mirror, JROy

[small kayak]

literally no one cares about ipfs

[modest bison]

cloudflare does

[pallid yoke]

Can that handle tens of terrabytes?

[modest bison]

which is apparently you guys god or something

[woven ridge]

I don't think anyone disagrees with you that there is (or at least could be for some) a larger issue here, but I personally don't see how hangar going through much more trouble to deal with this is worth that effort at all

[modest bison]

if you use ipfs I would invest the money,y es

[pallid yoke]

Cause that's how much traffic CloudFlare handles for us

[woven ridge]

and yeah actually ipfs can as an idea, just a minority of people are using it now

[modest bison]

also I'm not saying that you should take cloudflare completely out of the equation, I am saying that alternative access should be possible too

[small kayak]

why though

the majority of users will go through whatever is on hangar's main site / cloudflare

[modest bison]

scroll up

if you have ipfs installed then it will select the best server for you

[pallid yoke]

99% of users would still use CloudFlare, I don't care about the rest, it's not worth it for me

[small kayak]

ipfs / decentralized file storage is a very small minority to care about

[modest bison]

99% will use it until 0% use it when cf is down/unreachable/too far away, yes

[pallid yoke]

This is a free time project, I gotta think how I allocate my time, so I create the best experience for the majority of the users

[small kayak]

hangar isn't mission critical

it can go down for a day

[untold idol]

good thing CF has 90% ish uptime!

[pallid yoke]

CloudFlare will be up in 99% of the time so still good enough for me

[modest bison]

we'll talk again when you try to download shit on mars

runs

[small kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-oh-no-anyway-gif-18887547

[pallid yoke]

Yeah, please call me then

[untold idol]

phoenix i want a postcard if you goto mars

[modest bison]

you have to ask mini, I will most likely never leave this planet unless they manage to get 1G starts and landing

[pallid yoke]

U got glass bones or smth?

[modest bison]

back problems :S but who knows, maybe they eventually find a good way to fix them which isn't putting screws into my spine

because this really doesn't look like "fun" to me: https://is.papr.best/gchZhtYe.png 👀 (although mine isn't as bad lol)

[pallid yoke]

Oh it's curved?

Well, curved sideways

[modest bison]

curved in two axis, yeah

[raven moss]

how would i go about making a command that temporarily removes a players permission

[pallid yoke]

#paper-dev

[raven moss]

oops

[wild hemlock]

scoliosis seems fxxked up

[pale hearth]

Old message I realize, but my wife had to get a spinal fusion done on a few of her lower disks. It blows my mind that they hardware put in place just stays there forever even after the fusion is complete.

[grim sparrow]

Hold up. I am confused. Are you a bot or not a bot.

[pallid yoke]

It's an irc bridge

[radiant raptor]

almost done with translating hangar to dutch 👀

[radiant raptor]

@lost pasture too late

[pallid yoke]

You guys should compare and discuss your translations :)

[radiant raptor]

okay i fixed it

it builds now

now i gotta add that one line

[radiant raptor]

could be

both work

i did forget some things at the top cuz i was tired xd

[radiant raptor]

feel free to make changes though, my translation isn't perfect

[modest bison]

I doubt that I could translate it into any needed languages, german and english should be covered already

[radiant raptor]

they aren't

english has some small spelling errors/missing letters

and german doesn't exist

french only has one line

[modest bison]

uhm, how does german not exist

I might contribute one day

[radiant raptor]

hf

[random badger]

French was just created to demo that it worked back when I added the system in the first place

[radiant raptor]

xd

i could help with french though

not very good at it however ^^;

[pale hearth]

I was going to say I could offer up extremely broken French

[sly mason]

hon hon hon oui oui baguette

[pale hearth]

Bonjourno!

[radiant raptor]

t'aimes aussi du papier?

[pale hearth]

<.< Oui

[barren shale]

it's honestly better to have no translation than bad translation

[stiff token]

If you have bad translation, it'll annoy someone enough to fix it!

[pallid yoke]

That's why hangar has so many bugs!

[prime blaze]

Am french, can confirm, 100% annoyed at google translate french

But I guess we'll be able to PR translation files

[radiant raptor]

sure, go for it

i PRed dutch

[ripe leaf]

Do you want to pr in French ? If yes ping me when you have done it so I can review it ^^

[ripe leaf]

guys, how should I handle that case ? ^^"

[fluid stratus]

I think using double colons on the outside works as well, assuming that's just normal JSON

[ripe leaf]

That's the translation file of hangar so idk :/

[random badger]

yes use "

you can also escape the apostrophe with \ like \'

but prettier will autocorrect that to use double quotes

[ripe leaf]

yes, it fixes the issue

[random badger]

yep exactly

[pallid yoke]

It's typescript but yeah, lenient json basically

[random badger]

json makes you put quote around keys right?

like ```json
{
"key": "value"
}

[pallid yoke]

Yeah, and no trailing commas

And no comments

[glad shuttle]

json depends on the parser you use

good parser will ignore comments

parsers that stick 100% to spec are annoying

[pallid yoke]

Yeah I was describing the spec

[ripe leaf]

https://github.com/toinouH/Hangar/commit/c45ad0d4e09715bdb55765162c7b2d3f93453314 I'll delete comments at the end.

[surreal coyote]

No, parsers that stick 100% to spec are good

[sly mason]

knowing where to diverge is important

if the parser can deal with stuff like useless meta which humans love to have, that's better than not

I mean, if you want human stuff you could probs argue that something actually designed for humans would be better, but, 🤷‍♂️

[glad shuttle]

Not if the spec is trash

JSON spec is terrible

I mean at this point json5 is a good option

Hopefully gson will eventually support it

[ripe leaf]

I guess I should not translate that

[radiant raptor]

you should

[ripe leaf]

🙂

[random badger]

Yeah, the part inside the <a> tags

Hangar should be kept the same tho

Like, that’s the name of the site, I don’t think that should be translated anywhere

Just like you don’t translate Paper

[modest bison]

excuse me, I call it Papier on my German server!?!

[radiant raptor]

yes but germany is dumb

[modest bison]

watch your language

[ripe leaf]

I'll keep generic names like Spigot and Paper because Robinet and Papier have never been used to refer to Spigot and Paper (that sentense is confusing I know)

[fluid stratus]

They're names, I think they should be kept the same

[ripe leaf]

I'm not sure to understand the meaning of "Slug" here

 slugExists: 'A project with this slug already exists'

(ping me)

[radiant raptor]

@ripe leaf "A slug is the part of a URL which identifies a particular page on a website in an easy to read form. In other words, it's the part of the URL that explains the page's content."

basically: a page with this shorthand already exists

[ripe leaf]

Ok thank you

[fluid stratus]

Good luck translating that 😉

[radiant raptor]

i think i didn't translate it

cuz it's a given name

[ripe leaf]

With the context it will be much easier. I have already a few ideas for that

[radiant raptor]

yeah, maybe a (?) information on hover box could be there?

[ripe leaf]

🤷‍♂️

[radiant raptor]

would be quite easy to add

[barren shale]

"https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper" Paper = the slug. I forgot if Hangar allows special project names, but the slug of a "Hello Me" project would be "Hello-Me" or whatever similar

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clean_URL#Slug

[ripe leaf]

Thanks

I think I should not translate those things

[radiant raptor]

they're variables ofc

[random badger]

Yeah, def don’t

You can move them to a different place in the message if it makes sense to have it somewhere else grammatically

Those will be replaced with a “name” or “msg” that will not be translated from whatever it is.

[radiant raptor]

right, i gotta change some stuff in my own translation

[ripe leaf]

https://github.com/toinouH/Hangar/blob/french/frontend/locales/fr.ts Finally !

At some points github is mad...

But I have completed it. Tell me if I can open a pr.

[radiant raptor]

you can always open prs, it's open source xd

[sly mason]

you're using " in some places and ' on others

that's why the formatting looks kinda inconsistent on the page

and in some parts, githubs formatter is just trash

[radiant raptor]

facts

[radiant raptor]

fixed some errors in my translation

think i found the language switcher code (nuxt.config.js, right?)

great, broke the build again xd

[ripe leaf]

Yeah I had to do it as it was said above :/

[radiant raptor]

ooooookay should be fixed now :D

[solemn zenith]

I'm looking at the translation strings and does 'flag' mean 'to report something' in this case?
Btw I'm also unable to register an acc

[radiant raptor]

yeah that's intended i think

not a bug bro, trust me /s

[solemn zenith]

I mean it can be intentional. It's just easier to translate things when you can see the actual pages you'll translate

[radiant raptor]

from what i can tell, they're reports/fixme labels

[pallid yoke]

Yeah flagging something is reporting

Hangar auth database is fucked since I only imported data and not the sequences

If you ping me tomorrow I can prolly setup an account for ya

Flag as in, mark it as something

[ripe leaf]

Thank you, it would help having more context

[pallid yoke]

Just ping me in 9 hours and I'll setup accounts

Can also merge PRs for testing

[radiant raptor]

oooh that would be nice

[ripe leaf]

Nice :)

Thank you Mini

[snow crag]

Would plugins already on spigot be on hangar too?

[woven ridge]

it's up to plugin developers where they put their plugins- hangar won't just take everyone's plugins from spigot and mirror them or anything

[snow crag]

I was under the impression that hangar is for plugins only for paper and it’s forks, i guess I was wrong then

like plugins that work exclusively for paper not spigot or craftbukkit

[woven ridge]

no

well, yes in the sense that it will provide a place for those plugins that previously went on github/I guess kinda sorta devbukkit now as they don't care as much

but not in the sense that only those plugins

[random badger]

Hangar will take plugins that work on paper. If those plugins also work elsewhere, that’s fine.

[glad shuttle]

Hangar won't take plugins build with eclipse though

[ember ivy]

what about netbeans, the one true IDE as used by our lord and savior?

runs

[sly mason]

So, just filter plugins with the unresolvable compilation exceptions?

[woven ridge]

are you meant to be able to create projects at the current point? I've just set up an instance myself and am getting 400 with nothing useful in the logs. There's likely something I'm doing wrong but I'm not sure what

[random badger]

yeah, everything should pretty much work locally

so you are signed in to the fake user account right? called paper or smth

what request 400s?

[woven ridge]

no with hangarauth

let me get it

[random badger]

oh using it w/hangar auth ok.

[woven ridge]

POST https://hangar.sulu.me/api/internal/projects/create

{"category":"admin_tools","settings":{"license":{"type":"Apache 2.0","url":""},"donation":{},"keywords":[],"homepage":"","issues":"","source":"","support":""},"ownerId":2,"name":"neatproject","description":"neat project","pageContent":"look at my amazing project"}

with this body

and it just responds with this with nothing logged

{"timestamp":"2021-06-29T02:55:17.413+00:00","status":400,"error":"Bad Request","path":"/api/internal/projects/create"}

although I don't have debug logging or anything on for the backend- I should see about that

[random badger]

yeah, try that. in application.yml, uncomment that big setting all logging to DEBUG

the logs will get spammed a bit, but that'll give you a better indication of what's wrong

[woven ridge]

ok thanks for pointing me in the right direction

[random badger]

a 400 response w/no error message points to an exception thrown not by code in hangar but by smth in spring. cause I think all error responses (except not founds and unauth, forbidden) have more descriptive messages

like, if it was an issue with the POST body, the form validation would tell you exactly what was wrong in the 400 response

[woven ridge]

I didn't fill in every field, not sure if it expects that

but it just said "bad request" not anything else

[random badger]

yeah, not an issue with the POST body

[woven ridge]

but anyways I'll get on debug logging and see if that gives anything useful

[random badger]

feel free to copy/paste the debug logs into a pastebin and post here if you want me to take a look

[woven ridge]

I just got this, so I assume it's having trouble with the db so will look at that https://paste.gg/p/Pencil/2ffdebd8785f4e3bbc682428e5f001a3/files/492d44391a974ece89e45344f53a549b/raw

[random badger]

hmm, ya looks like it. Any logs in the docker db service?

[woven ridge]

no but I'm going to try enabling debug logging there as well

it created all of the other stuff fine though from the looks of it

[random badger]

Can also try adding some debug statements ProjectFactory#createProject to see where stuff went wrong

[woven ridge]

looks like it's not the dbs fault https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/8cd23ed82a6649c8bb8a0b8813cebbfe/files/136b5e2323854ca9ac06718152c4d579/raw

when I have time tomorrow I'll try to debug this some more

[sly mason]

db_1        | 2021-06-29 03:17:26.453 UTC [28] LOG:  execute <unnamed>: DELETE FROM projects WHERE id = $1
db_1        | 2021-06-29 03:17:26.453 UTC [28] DETAIL:  parameters: $1 = '7'
backend_1   | 2021-06-29 03:17:26.461 DEBUG 1 --- [  XNIO-1 task-2] o.s.jdbc.support.JdbcTransactionManager  : Initiating transaction rollback

rollback?

[woven ridge]

that's hangar doing that for some reason

[sly mason]

Yea, but, more the fact that it's doing that

[woven ridge]

at least that's how I see it- I don't know why or really feel like figuring it out right now

something for tomorrow

[sly mason]

Oh, the things transactional

chances are some exception was throwin in createProject is what am guessing

[woven ridge]

oh wait no nevermind

ok no I was right I thought I had messed up my db but it does the same thing when I nuke it

anyways will figure this out tomorrow

[radiant raptor]

@pallid yoke it has been about 9 hrs :p

[random badger]

what do you need? email confirmation?

[pallid yoke]

Plus TOS

Cause that's broken too rn cause I broke the sequence

[random badger]

oh, thats broken too?

[pallid yoke]

Yeah hangar auth db in general is fucked, maybe I should just drop it, idk

I just woke up, I'll be at my pc in an hour or so to look at stuff

[random badger]

I should be able to check those boxes

although TOS is a group, but I think I can do that

[radiant raptor]

gl MM

[random badger]

@radiant raptor what is your username?

[radiant raptor]

don't have one yet hang on 👀

[random badger]

@ripe leaf and let me know what your hangar acct username is if you were trying to make one

and @solemn zenith let me know what your username is

[radiant raptor]

it's MrsHerobrine

[random badger]

ugh, why don't I see your account anywhere

[sly mason]

She really doesn't exist

and will one day be purged from the world

[pallid yoke]

If there was a rollback because tos acception couldn't be logged I guess there is no trace of the accounts?

[random badger]

naomi said she just created it tho

[pallid yoke]

Can you manually increment a sequence in SQL? Cause then we just need to reset the sequences in those tables

[radiant raptor]

you can autincremrnt in sqlite

but that'swhere my knowledge ends

[sly mason]

Looked like an exception was thrown from what I can see

you can mess with the auto insert counter if that's what you're asking

[random badger]

hmm, when I try to see what the current value of a sequence is, I get currval of sequence "xxx" is not yet defined in this session

do we just need to set the value to whatever the next one should be?

[radiant raptor]

you could try, see if that fixes it

[random badger]

well, if you just keep sending post requests, the ID is being incremented, so... could just do that 13 more times

idk if that'll mess anything else up tho 😆

[ripe leaf]

I did try to make one (it failed) and I would like to use toinouH as a username :)