this is
#hangar-dev
mellow pebble
mellow pebble
the forum software
stark verge
ooh
random badger
Did we decide where to put various threads on the paper forums? Cause some projects have multiple platforms
barren shale
that and tags
safe harbor
random badger
Yeah... what’s up with the headers on markdown? It wasn’t always like that. Something changed afaik
modest forge
I don't know
It's been so long that I can't tell if that was something I did or someone else
easy fix: blame bootstrap
random badger
well like ik I had to something w/it when I moved stuff over to vue components, but I'm 100% sure I double checked it was working
errant jacinth
Is there a list of stuff that needs doing before initial release?
Kinda keen to help a bit, as it seems BukkitDev has actually died, been waiting 5 days now for a WorldEdit update to be approved
midnight anchor
lol
random badger
Is there a list of stuff that needs doing before initial release?
Yes, the Release Project on gh has a bunch of issues/features that need to be done for an initial release.
errant jacinth
Ah, didn't think to check projects - thanks
fluid stratus
DBO is transferring stuff to Overwolf, approvals are on hold until everything is transferred.
cinder silo
db who?
mossy topaz
worldly kindle
thanks
cinder silo
in message.properties, are we not double quoting apostrophes? i.e. rn it's couldn't, i thought you had to do couldn''t
random badger
I haven't run into where that is an issue? so for now, just stick to the format that's already there
easy enough to fix it later all at once if its an issue
cinder silo
yeah i was just curious
modest forge
I think that might be a ResourceBundle quirk, hence why things like Essentials tell you to do that
Not sure for certain tho
sly mason
is it missing or is it there?
if you're thinking of yaml, you '' due to the fact that you've generally got it in a quote already
hence it's gotta escape it and that's what yaml does
property files don't have the concept of a quoted string, it's a simple K=V
modest forge
i.e. rn it's couldn't, i thought you had to do couldn''t
cinder silo
yeah yall are right
modest forge
Most people have used Essentials' properties files, which have always recommended doubling it for some reason
cinder silo
yeah i think that's probably where i get that from
modest forge
Not sure if that holds up in EssentialsX, but we still do that in our files anyway
cinder silo
also, my ide was considering ' as strings for some reason so that didn't help either lol
cinder silo
i know this isn't development related, but it's a curiosity i have about hangar. will it be possible to upload multiple files per version - i.e. one core plugin and optional addon plugins and such
or will that kinda stuff just be left for zip files
stiff token
I think add-ons can be separate plugins?
mortal idol
Yes, but that's kinda annoying having to thru each addon's page to get it
pallid yoke
hangar links dependencies as proper links
so you can just click around
a addon would be a soft dependency I guess?
fluid stratus
Usually the addon would have a hard dependency on the main plugin though
stiff token
Does it also make "these plugins depend on currently viewed plugin"?
pallid yoke
Does it also make "these plugins depend on currently viewed plugin"?
yeah I guess we should make it display a reverse dependencies
"this projects uses those projects (hard/soft) and is used by these projects (hard/soft)"
then you have both directions
stiff token
I think viewing reverse dependencies will quickly become a pain for bigger plugins - would need to be searchable.
pallid yoke
one is defined by authors (assisted by plugin.yml lookups), the other is automated
fluid stratus
My plugin also has an optional bungeecord plugin and addon for different servers, allowing you to join a minigame from a different server the minigame is on. None of these files depend on each other, but do belong together, currently I use child files on DBO and a zip on SpigotMC, but child files are preferably.
pallid yoke
yeah, UI is a different quitestion
can somebody throw these thouths onto an issue, so discussion doesnt get lost?
fluid stratus
Sure
cinder silo
take essentailsx for example
will every essentialsx module be in separate projects or will they all be distributed together
fluid stratus
cinder silo
nice stef
modest forge
What do people think about allowing users to create "collections" of plugins that get their own pages?
eg I could create an "EssentialsX suite" collection and add all EssX modules to it, then people can find all those projects from one page on Hangar
modest forge
Could also be used for curated lists of plugins, eg members of the community could create a "vanilla survival starter pack" collection of Hangar plugins
That way we can encourage people to post that type of list on Hangar itself
(Doesn't necessarily change whether we have dependency/dependents views - we could still add those)
cinder silo
i would love that. would solve my issues with the current system
my plugin is structured very similarly to essentialsx's module system
modest forge
||wouldn't recommend mimicking EssentialsX 2.x 👀||
cinder silo
but the core is really only an API for other first-party dependents to depend on, so it wouldn't make sense to distribute the plugins separately
lol it suits the project - one core plugin that provides a common API, and other modules that implement actual functionality
modest forge
I mean there are good ways to do that, but Essentials 2.x's weird "module" plugin thing is pointless
cinder silo
i mean, i didn't exactly mimic essentialsx's system
i was just using it as an abstract example - you would want to distribute essentialsx alongside it's modules so users know what is available
narrow verge
Not sure if it's been brought up before but what about projects that support multiple platforms individually?
Like velocity, paper, waterfall, 3 separate jars
random badger
3 separate jar’s are supported as 3 separate versions (right now)
Or they will be once mini checks over my pr
3 separate platforms in 1 jar is already supported nicely.
How do people do releases with a different jar for each platform? Do they release an update to all 3 if nothing has changed about two of them?
I think there needs to be a list of all possible ways some author would want to upload the jar for their plugin.
Cause there seems to be a new one that pops up every so often
zealous charm
narrow verge
How do people do releases with a different jar for each platform? Do they releas...
For luckperms (and probably geyser too) they release it on the separate platforms, but if they support velocity, waterfall, and paper that would be 3 separate jars on one site, instead of across 3
There's also their site which contains all of them
random badger
does luckperms actually upload a jar to their version releases on spigotmc?
cause you can always use an external link and have that for whatever platform combination you want
modest bisonBOT
they do upload the universal one on spigot
imo there is not a lot of reason to do different jars per platform beyond "I don't know how to do an universal one"
oh wait, they apparently only ship the bukkit one on spigot lol
maybe tehy want to keep the file size smaller or something odd?
random badger
yeah, so upload options currently are as follows:
- one jar for all supported platforms (hangar auto scans jar and fills in necessary info)
- external link (author can specify what platforms and their versions should be marked as compatible)
- multiple jars (one for each platform) for each version, author must create multiple versions, one for each jar note: these can have the same name (once my pr is merged) and the site user can filter by platform in the version list, so its not that hard to find
umbral jasper
Yeah, for something like Geyser we have an update for each platform every update. (Though currently we don't have specified releases).
On Spigot, we currently just link to https://ci.nukkitx.com/job/GeyserMC/job/Geyser/job/master/
random badger
atm hangar also accepts zip uploads. It might be worth looking into scanning those and "filtering" them by platform. That way, on hangar, when you click download, you can then click the platform you'd like to download it for
prob require somewhat largish refactoring but doable
(also I just realized you cant filter by platform looking at the version list for a project so gonna add an issue for that)
mossy iron
Is there a dev/demo instance of hangar online somewhere?
midnight anchor
pallid yoke
If it's down, just annoy me here and I'll fix it eventually
midnight anchor
annoy annoy annoy
pallid yoke
It deploys automatically from master, so stuff sometimes break if broken stuff gets commited ^^
modest bisonBOT
damn, ded already has is RTP on there
narrow verge
modest bisonBOT
*his
mossy iron
So push breaking changes a lot got it.
chew it was down last time!
:(
I should have checked again.
I'm a monster.
narrow verge
PINS THE CHECK
modest bisonBOT
can i nap please
mossy iron
Yes.
modest bisonBOT
I sure hope hanger has an option to disable the linkout warnings if you are logged in lol
narrow verge
everybody gangsta until the link warning
pallid yoke
We also wanna whitelist github and shit
modest bisonBOT
(I also don't like how the site can track which links were clicked with that :S but I guess there are easier ways (e.g. with javascript) to do that ¯_(ツ)_/¯)
pallid yoke
If you paranoid, you can just copy the url out of the link, lol
Also
assuming I am not too lazy to implement tracking
narrow verge
oh? too lazy? on god?
pallid yoke
Also GA would be cool I guess, altho I expect everyone in this community to use adblock anyways
What did it block?
narrow verge
pallid yoke
Oh wait, i think we have GA?
mossy iron
Is there's a main designer for hangar?
pallid yoke
Tag manager, interesting
narrow verge
it's just a "fork" of sponge's ore
stiff token
Wouldn't you need to track the urls to count downloads or something?
pallid yoke
Does it look so well designed you think we have one?
The project is a mess design wise 😂
pallid yoke
You basically entering PR or shut up territory here ^^
mossy iron
I'm preparing for a PR.
narrow verge
oof
mossy iron
I put my PRs where my mouth is!
pallid yoke
But yes, i would love to have an actual web designer on board
I am still hesitant to even call myself a web developer
Yet alone a designer
narrow verge
Riddle me this, why can i click ":download" and it works on the essentialsx page but there's nothing on the versions tab
pallid yoke
Does it download a jar?
narrow verge
yes
pallid yoke
Guess it's not approved yet or smth
Open an issue basically
Send paperweight is a step forward, hangar can get some love again i guess
random badger
Is there's a main designer for hangar?
Yeah, not really. Most of the css is taken directly from ore. I did a tad of work making a few things look sorta better on mobile but it’s still bad.
Can even find the login button on mobile.
random badger
grr. this request is return a 500 error. except its also returning the stuff its supposed to.
never seen that before, where the json is returned as its supposed to, but the browser is seeing a 500
well idk what's up w/that. The dropdowns to select a user when trying to add them to an org are broken because of it.
all the api requests to search for users with that name return 500
mossy iron
Bad response headers?
random badger
I gave up. I didn't even know how to debug it. The spring controller executed the request w/o errors and returned the correct response. it was just showing 500 in my browser.
well actually, I don't know exactly what the response it returned was, but it got through the request w/o errors
and the response payload in the browser was the correct bit of JSON
random badger
So are we doing the thing where projects can have different badges?
Like:
- Open Source
- Verified
- 10k Downloads
solemn zenith
Sounds cool
soft hornet
And then those badges can grant XP, and that XP goes toward levels, and those levels let you unlock more friends on your friends list?
random badger
Is that a reference to something? I don’t get it.
soft hornet
Steam
random badger
Steam has restrictions on the number of friends you can have?
How did I not know that?
solemn zenith
Apparently
narrow verge
Like:
- Open Source
- Verified
Why are we giving every project an open source badge
random badger
To encourage open source I think
narrow verge
Hmm actually that's pretty good
modest bisonBOT
why would you need a badge on every resource on the page?!?
narrow verge
They're like capes
random badger
phoenix idk what you mean.
stiff token
Can I have a ClosedSource and Obfuscated badges? ||/s||
narrow verge
Also I don't see the point of "verification" unless you have requirements that could themselves be badges
modest bisonBOT
should go with a copyleft badge instead to point out resources that actually help spread open source
Machine_Maker: I mean that hanger shouldn't accept non-open source in the first place (and afaik that was the plan?)
soft hornet
Also I don't see the point of "verification" unless you have requirements that c...
How about badges based on how strong your password is, to help hackers?
random badger
No, afaik it’d still accept close source, but we’d highly encourage open source
modest bisonBOT
eww
random badger
K, well I was trying to have a serious discussion about what sorts of badges there would be...
modest bisonBOT
I sure hope "not encouraging it" means "not listing it, not showing it in on-page search or in google searches"
random badger
Idk what form “not encouraging” it will take.
modest bisonBOT
proprietary resources hsould have a large red "this resource follows anti consumer practices"
random badger
Yes, could be a search filter off by default. But nothing solid there yet
modest bisonBOT
also I wish there was an "unwanted features" function like F-Droid has it lol
knotty lodge
how is not open source anti consumer?
modest bisonBOT
(btw. they do quite well forcing open source)
knotty lodge
when most of the consumers don't know anything about java
modest bisonBOT
because you don't have 100% over the software that you run
why should they need to?
it's about rights
mossy topaz
well said, well said
modest bisonBOT
if a software is not open source then you do not have the right to pay someone to fix issues with it
mossy topaz
or to fork it
modest bisonBOT
you are at the mercy of the original developer
mossy topaz
or to audit it for extreme issues
modest bisonBOT
it's basically extortion
mossy topaz
or code quality, or any other sort of problem
knotty lodge
meh oh well, i think it's a bit extreme to call it anti consumer though
modest bisonBOT
runs
random badger
Phoenix, feel free to open an issue with your input on what should be allowed searchable, etc. it’s good to have these discussions in a place that doesn’t get lost (like what happens on discord)
modest bisonBOT
what else do you call "platform login, forced payed support"?
soft hornet
proprietary resources hsould have a large red "this resource follows anti consum...
"This project violates licenses" 😄
modest bisonBOT
*lock-in
I wouldn't go that far to play judge if you don't have the legal authority to do so ;)
knotty lodge
i'm not meaning paid plugins if that's what you thought i meant
modest bisonBOT
no
I didn't either
I meant projects that are note distributed under an open source (and to an extend copyleft) license
*not
I said nothing about the cost of aquiring such software
it's free as in liberty, not beer after all
knotty lodge
ah ok, I guess I just don't see how a free plugin that isn't open source is really anti consumer, i mean it's free, maybe I'll see why in the future but currently I don't. do think that it's ok if you want to discourage non open source resources on the platform though, things like making them appear on the second page even if they have more downloads than an open source alternative
narrow verge
Closed source projects should have 3 warnings. 1 because not verified. 2 because it's a lot harder to verify closed source. And 3 because it's illegal to download
modest bisonBOT
no, it's "illegal" to distribute ;) as in Hanger hosts would be liable for it (if no safe haven laws apply)
mossy topaz
It's anti-consumer in a very fundamental sense, in that it restricts your ability to find good alternatives. This is the same sense in which a monopoly is anti-consumer, for the consumer has no other place to turn.
random badger
I agree it’s anti-consumer but I don’t understand that reason for it @mossy topaz. How does it not being open source restrict your ability to find alternatives?
modest bisonBOT
data portability for example
mossy topaz
Every now and then someone asks me to patch and fix a closed-source/obfuscated plugin.
modest bisonBOT
it's usually harder to get your data out of proprietary tools (but GDPR simplifies that one)
mossy topaz
The original developer placed a restriction the source code which makes it so much more difficult to patch or fork the plugin.
random badger
Ok oh. Yeah
mossy topaz
Moreover, you can't compare the quality of the source code to another plugin.
random badger
Got it.
random badger
this really doesn't make sense... a 500 response with the correct info sent as well?
as I look at it tho... something is off. it says there should be 3 results
and there is only 1
narrow verge
Probably it failed while getting 2nd
random badger
Yes, so its somewhere in the parsing of the list of users. Cause I replace it with an empty list, and then it returned 200
but there are no logs...
oh wait!
nvm, I think I just found it
I didn't realize there was a log level below DEBUG
had to turn on TRACE logging
random badger
what do people think about converting the rather large project settings page into a set of 1-line settings with a hoverable question mark to show the big block of text?
In general, I'm just not a fan of massive pages for not really that many settings. And most of the time (after your first time) you know what the various fields are anyways just by a one or two word label
cinder silo
any reason why the create project button in the top right would do nothing?
looks like none of the dropdown menus work, actually
narrow verge
He's right, what happened
cinder silo
i want 2 upload quantum >:(
narrow verge
cinder silo
based chew
narrow verge
based? based on what? working links?
cinder silo
based on ur mom
narrow verge
based on u having 0 projects on hangar 
cinder silo
wtf
sly mason
Brought to you by mini™
narrow verge
today is sunday that means tomorrow is monday and you know what monday brings
narrow verge
in addition to neverending sadness, DEPEBDNS
white pier
the neverending sadness got the better of her
narrow verge
it's just dependabot but the letters are rearranged
sly mason
any dyslexic people here to confirm that for us
narrow verge
Any independent fact checkers
random badger
wait, the drop downs dont work?
I was just messing w/them and they worked fine
oh huh, the tooltips are being weird...
cinder silo
everything is kinda being weird, including not being able to upload projects
random badger
hmm. I understand why the drop downs arent working. but idk what change I made that would prevent project creation.
they were just small changes
carmine steeple
Never got the mail 🥺
modest forge
We don't have email sending set up yet, give me a minute and I can DM you the link
carmine steeple
Thank you, that would be great!
Just messing with the resources, and the converter seems broken on mobile 🤔
Clicked it a few times, nothing happened :P
modest forge
I'm not sure if the converter worked for me on desktop, but it's been a while
cinder silo
i actually did just try it and it worked
that being said posting the resource never worked for me
pallid yoke
I was pinged?
modest forge
?
pallid yoke
yeah ping is deleted
cinder silo
'twas not me my good sir
modest forge
I'm not in IRC so idk
pallid yoke
I love when problems solves themselves
modest forge
What's the IRC for here again?
cinder silo
hangar is broky tho while ur here mini
sly mason
don't recall if there was one
cinder silo
actually let me try again
sly mason
would be on esper though
pallid yoke
whats brokey?
pallid yoke
am going thru my notifications rn
pallid yoke
well, I can't even click new because the dropdown is bork, heh
sly mason
GUD JOB U DIID IT
pallid yoke
lets see
cinder silo
where
misty mountain
spigot
cinder silo
oh, his kangarko statement?
misty mountain
yee
random badger
Yeah, the tooltip broke the drop down. Can just remove them I guess.
Idk what’s up with uploading resources not working
pallid yoke
I got sidetracked and wrote a benchmark for minimessage, after that I can look at hanagr again 😄
modest forge
smh not enough support for minimessage on hangar
pallid yoke
was an easy fix
but only because I had that issue before I guess
basically we had two data-toggles
thats a nono
project creation works locally
and on staging too
kek
@cinder silo what project name did you use?
cinder silo
Quantum
pallid yoke
yeah idk then
can you try now?
so I can look at log
(after staging restarted)
you are right with the http redirect btw
cinder silo
Yeah I'll give it a shot one sec
And nice, glad to know it's not just me lol
Uh not sure if I'm insane... Can't find the log in button (desktop menu checkbox is ticked)
pallid yoke
mobile layout is a mess
rotate your screen, then it should be wide enough
needs to be 990px
cinder silo
no sorry that was me i was installing a new driver
upper flower
Mobile layout looks OK for me
sly mason
close enough
pallid yoke
Caused by: java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: duplicate element: random
at java.base/java.util.ImmutableCollections$SetN.<init>(ImmutableCollections.java:781) ~[na:na]
at java.base/java.util.Set.of(Set.java:704) ~[na:na]
at io.papermc.hangar.db.model.ProjectsTable.<init>(ProjectsTable.java:55) ~[classes!/:0.0.1-SNAPSHOT]
interesting
pallid yoke
you mean keywords?
pallid yoke
spaces it seems
cinder silo
yeah, maybe add something client side that says "tags are separated by spaces" or something, and some error when there's duplicate keywords
pallid yoke
issue pls
cinder silo
kk
pallid yoke
else we forget
cinder silo
one sec installing nautilus
pallid yoke
ill look at the http link again now
cinder silo
sounds good
i'm not actually getting that anymore, curiously
actually lemme see if i can trigger it
pallid yoke
I can
cinder silo
i can't, but good that you can
pallid yoke
its still there on staging, but your browser will only complain if its a form
stiff token
I see Mini focusing on hangar today?
pallid yoke
yas
stiff token
Do you have a good place to donate you some beer money? There's nothing on your site :/
pallid yoke
I mean, I have github sponsors https://github.com/sponsors/MiniDigger
and I have https://paypal.me/MiniDigger
but like, I am not the only one working on this, @random badger has done way more recently
stiff token
I know - but he didn't merge my PR for 2 months cause he was working on hangar, so I don't want to encourage that more.
jk
I saw you working on it and reminded myself I couldn't find a link yesterday.
pallid yoke
fun fact: I can't compile hangar on java11 using maven, gotta use java 15
also, the fucking flexmark wiki has a typo, that just costed me like 30 minutes
oh, and thanks prof
cinder silo
just got redirected too many times when signing in from hangar.minidigger.me/login on mobile
main lava
random badger
@cinder silo afaik, hangar auth is broken on chrome.
I can’t seem to be able to login on it on my PC when I use chrome
midnight anchor
staging borked
narrow verge
What url
random badger
oh yeah, I get cloudfare 502
midnight anchor
narrow verge
Ouch
pallid yoke
<@738346084769988638> afaik, hangar auth is broken on chrome.
Works for me
502? Wtf
But my server is reachable
random badger
oh does it work now Mini? For a while I couldn't get past login on chrome
well I get for hangar-auth.minidigger.me now
but that's not chrome specific
sly mason
and this is why mini isn't a sysadmin
random badger
mini, does eslint not spit prettier errors at you? you seem to have your tabs set to 2 spaces.
pallid yoke
Maybe I ignore em 😂
sly mason
typical mini
pallid yoke
~~and this is why mini isn't a sysadmin~~
This is staging, with auto deploy, of course stuff breaks
random badger
how can you ignore them? lol if there is even one tiny one I gotta fix it. I need that clean yarn serve 😆
random badger
ah, I have both open
sly mason
xD
pallid yoke
In my defence, it's my mum's fault
sly mason
for being german?
pallid yoke
For making mulled wine and handing it me 😂
random badger
hey @pallid yoke is there a reason we wouldn't just include the admonition js/css scripts ourselves?
rather than making routes for them in ApplicationController?
pallid yoke
Well, then we have to update them manually?
random badger
hmm yeah I guess, but then you wouldn't have to do that replace in javascript which just seems odd. Like it shouldn't break ever but idk
pallid yoke
But if you got nicer ideas, go ahead, i am not really happy with it either, played around a ton
midnight anchor
lol stagings back up now
random badger
🤷♂️ maybe it just needed some more commits
midnight anchor
lol
pallid yoke
A commit redeploys it
midnight anchor
also hangar-auth works now
pallid yoke
It's also redeployed with hangar
pallid yoke
@random badger does the tooltip on the copy button actually work? I had issues with it (cause the copy thing also sets a tooltip and then you get weird console errors, if you pressed and hover again), so i just removed it because I didn't feel like looking into it ^^
random badger
yeah it was working fine 4 me
I made sure to check 🙂
when I clicked it was it was copied, and the tooltip showed up on hover
the copy tooltip isn't on the copy button
pallid yoke
Ah strange, maybe you did something slightly different to me then
random badger
I am getting window.admonition is not a function in the console tho
pallid yoke
On what page? Maybe that script isn't included everywhere where it's needed
pallid yoke
Yeah most likely missed that, i think i only did pages
Just add the js and css like on project page view then
random badger
yeah, that works
pallid yoke
It needs to be included everywhere where the editor component is used or where markdown is displayed
I have to call it manually since it needs to be called after the markdown html is loaded
random badger
at some point, I want to get the nonce working, but I can't figure out how to get it to generate a new one each request... I can only do a static configuration of the header in the SecurityConfig. Do you have any experience w/that?
pallid yoke
Nah, never did that before
Shouldn't google return stuff for this? Seems like a common use case
random badger
I would think, but it doesn't
I've searched for "spring web security nonce configuration" like a ton of times and I can't find anything.
random badger
yeah, I forgot the name just now but I def searched for that too
random badger
lol was just looking at that.
Now I'm thinking I ran into a different problem cause that stackoverflow thread was in my history
so I looked at that at some point
but I forget 😅
pallid yoke
I don't even know what csp really does
Like what kinda attacks it prevents
Maybe I should google that
Oh it's xss
Marking all places where js is supposed to be
And the browser will ignore everything else
random badger
yeah that's the way I understood it
random badger
oh yeah, I def already got to filter https://github.com/PaperMC/Hangar/blob/master/src/main/java/io/papermc/hangar/controller/filters/ContentSecurityPolicyFilter.java
pallid yoke
Oh, speaking about that, I saw you set freemarker output format to plain text, can you quickly test if html is still escaped?
random badger
I only set it to plain text where html shouldn't be escaped.
and that is only outputs of markdownService.render
pallid yoke
Yeah that escaped html, right?
Your filter looks nice, just the storing of the nonce is missing i guess
Since we need to access it in html, so shove it into model in hangar controller I guess
random badger
Yeah, I think the issue I was running into was that I couldn't figure out how to get pre-fetches to work with it?
pallid yoke
I can take a look tomorrow I guess
Is there an issue for csp?
I just look at issues since forget what I wanted to do else ^^
I will most likely spend most of this week on hangar
Don't have work anymore, want to wait till demon does stuff for paperweight until I look at that again, etc
random badger
erm... I think render doesn't escape html.
I totally thought it did. that's an issue
pallid yoke
Look at the markdown service, it got a ton of options, i think there is smth about html right at the top
Else just Google, flex mark is amazing and got options for everything apperently
Or open an issue and I'll look at it tomorrow ^^
random badger
well it escapes some. like a tags
but if I put <script> tags I get a console error about Uncaught SyntaxError: "" literal not terminated before end of script
yeah, ill open some issues
sharp crypt
possible to make the blue icons n shit white or some other non blue color?
blue feels very out of place imo
pallid yoke
somewhat happy with this first try now
and yes, design needs a huge overhaul, its all sponge style, but we dont have a webdesigner who could design this
sharp crypt
ah i c
pallid yoke
it needs to be changed everywhere to be consistent, basically the whole UI needs an overhaul
sharp crypt
pallid yoke
wanna rewrite it?
pallid yoke
tailwind is also reaaaallly ehhm, idk
its totally different and often not really helpful
sharp crypt
is there a specific style you are aiming for?
pallid yoke
css frameworks != style
sharp crypt
ik but perhaps the default css is good as it
pallid yoke
you implement your style ontop of a css framework
nah default style is never what you want
because then everything would look the same
hangar currently uses bootstrap as framework and thats working quite nicely
pallid yoke
cool, 9.0.0-beta.15 breaks shit
midnight anchor
epic!
pallid yoke
(of vue-i18n)
pallid yoke
mmmh, CSP + allowing ppl to include images is fun
we either need to host an image proxy, or just allow all
vue-i18n is strange
it does compile stuff and use eval?!
const msg = new Function(return ${code})();
like wtf
random badger
Is there a reason not to use * for img-src?
pallid yoke
We can
random badger
btw, I think you need to add "data:" to img-src
pallid yoke
It's just that you generally want to restrict as much as possible
Which is why even spigot has an image proxy
You don't leak any visitor info then
random badger
right, makes sense
pallid yoke
In theory, i could embed an image into my resource description and use it to track visits, potentially even users
And google are the only ones getting that data, not for reosurce authors 😂
stiff token
So I won't be able to check if more than 10 people will ever view my resource? 😢
stiff token
Hey, not true! There would be at least 1, because I'd view it to make sure it looks good.
random badger
public void incrementViews() {
if (user != “Prof”) views++;
}
stiff token
I'll just rename to "bloodstone" or smth.
I'm not doing another PR to VT anyway, will keep all my changes to myself.
pallid yoke
Hangar actually tracks view server side so it's fine
random badger
man, that 1 pr... I told you I didn’t know it existed!!! I wasn’t getting notifications for anything on that repo.
stiff token
Is it something smarter than just the number of times the endpoint was queried (i.e. What if I refresh etc)?
random badger
Yes it’s smarter than that.
stiff token
man, that 1 pr... I told you I didn’t know it existed!!! I wasn’t getting notifi...
I even pinged you in the issue!
random badger
I still didn’t get notified. Idk what was up. I clear all my notifs
So I would’ve seen it. Maybe I had watch Nothing turned on or something
stiff token
Do you guys know roughly how much more work there is for hangar? I plan to finish up my current work for my server early next month and wanted to take a break, maybe see if I can make sense of Java and Hangar.
random badger
Are you a frontend guy?
stiff token
No - I'm as far away from frontend as possible lol
pallid yoke
Most of the work is on frontend I guess, but we do have a few new features that require backend stuff i guess
stiff token
I can do very simple frontend stuff.
random badger
Yeah, I think the majority of stuff left to do is frontend stuff. Like mini said, design needs a complete overhaul pretty much.
On that note, I was thinking about seeing if bootstrapmd was a drop in replacement for bootstrap that just changed it to a material design look. Would be an easy way to overhaul the look I think.
pallid yoke
What hangar really needs is a proper web designer
random badger
Yeah
pallid yoke
I mean, generally the look is fine, but it doesn't really fit in with the website, our new additions are kinda meh and the mobile layout is basically broken
But: i wouldn't have that much of an issue to go live with it as it
Mobile I can fix a bit up, but it's generally "fine"
stiff token
I sadly don't know any web designers - was gonna pay someone to design me a simple site.
ocean pagoda
tbh I don't think the design is that bad. Its not great, but its better than Spigots, lol
modest forge
I mean, Bulma is nice, but I assume yall want to stay with Bootstrap (which tbf has a way bigger ecosystem)
stiff token
There's Bulma and Tailwind - but they are just frameworks. Someone would need to create the overall design first anyway, right?
As I said though - I should be last person asked for frontend stuff. So might be totally wrong.
modest forge
Tailwind is less a framework and more a "here's individual CSS attributes as classes"
It's neat but takes a lot of effort
random badger
We don’t have to stay with bootstrap, it’s just stuff is already written w/it. So it’d be a big rewrite.
modest forge
Bootstrap is a good base to modify, but you'd need someone who knows their way around it to improve it
random badger
And if we wanted to be more inline with the website, we’d need some material design I think.
modest forge
Bulma is still somewhat limited unless you want to modify its source, only mentioned it bc I like its defaults
pallid yoke
There's Bulma and Tailwind - but they are just frameworks. Someone would need to...
Yeah
The framework doesn't matter
We need a design
You can implement a design in any framework
stiff token
Yes, that's what I meant.
Maybe you guys could get donations for Hangar project and hire someone? Or more loudly say that hangar needs a designer - I only saw it mentioned here tbh. Most people will never open this channel.
pallid yoke
Maybe once we are feature complete and start like a public testing phase we can make a call for designers
knotty lodge
if you don't like the design you gotta change it before you release
people don't like website redesigns
i personally think it looks good
modest forge
Ehh, I think the scruffiness at the start would put people off
Probably worth trying to get someone on board to design sooner than that
ocean pagoda
main reason it looks scruffy is imo inconsistency
like, different width of the sidebar on different pages etc
cinder silo
i am super happy to write frontend code if someone else comes up with a design
im quite familiar with vue but unfortunately i have no eye for design
pallid yoke
same, lol
part of my job at work includes implementing designs others make, that I can do
stiff token
Maybe we could ask on Syscraft or some other servers? It's well within Syscraft rules, at least.
stiff token
That too. But want to give designer some time, because they might not be able to do it immediately and it'll surely take some time.
modest forge
I dropped MDBootstrap in to see how much it broke, turns out not as much as I thought
(literally pasted the css at the head of the html, didn't actually try and set it up properly)
mmm much better
cinder silo
ok other than everything being broken i like the changes
i think it looks a bit more modern
ocean pagoda
mmm much better
minimalist design. very modern. and I noticed for the first time that the paper logo is a stack of notes, wow
modest forge
Funnily enough I too only noticed that when Hangar's CSS was broken months ago
cinder silo
hey, fyi, https://hangar.minidigger.me/bluely/Quantum returns the experiencing difficulties page
looks like it's just mine though
random badger
Looks like an NPE cause recommendedVersionId is null somewhere. I probably introduced that fixing visibility stuff for recommended versions.
Yep, I did. On mobile tho so I can’t fix it. Line 125 of ProjectService. @pallid yoke if you can figure out a way to use the getRecommendedVersion from VersionService there, it’s be better. But I didn’t want to deal with circular dependencies.
pallid yoke
mmmh there is still stuff weird with versions
I get random 404s
like, create version -> 404
then it appears again
set promoted -> 404
and some other version appears instead
its weird
cinder silo
big minecraft tryna keep quantum down 😔
random badger
Maybe there is a place that’s still using the old plain version string in the url?
I thought I changed all of those
pallid yoke
havent had a chance to look, my brain is mush today
random badger
@cinder silo ok, I think I fixed the issue there. lemme know if you get any more errors like that
(I just pushed so give it a few mins to deploy)
cinder silo
sounds good thanks mm
surreal wolf
yo is anything disabled or down rn? I am not getting a confirmation email when creating an account
random badger
email doesn't work atm, ill send you the link two seconds
narrow verge
2 minutes later
narrow verge
2
random badger
no I sent it at xx:19. for all you know that could've been two seconds later
narrow verge
19 was... 2
surreal wolf
lmao
narrow verge
(minutes ago)
narrow verge
asked at xx:18:19 👀
random badger
blocking chew in 3...2...1... ||jk||
modest bisonBOT
what did i do
random badger
nothin
modest forge
omg chew's block evading!?!?
modest bisonBOT
I didn't even know I was here
deft drift
is hangar frontend in vue or freemarker or is it some weird unholy combo of both?
modest forge
I believe it's still both, though I think there's more Vue stuff than previously(?)
deft drift
where does vue get initialized in the freemarker templates? 👀
random badger
@deft drift there are scripts at the top of various freemarker templates
those js scripts load the components
look for something like... ```html
<script type="text/javascript" src="<@hangar.url "js/whatever-script.js"/>">
Just wondering, are project views accurate?
safe harbor
Oic, so 103 people have clicked my resource I uploaded when being mad shitfaced, coolio.
random badger
Yeah, the logic behind page count, download is... a little complicated. When I implemented it I still didn’t fully understand it but it was very simple to port over from ore. One db table adds a new row every time someone loads the page. Like every time. But then an automated task runs through those rows every couple hours and manipulates them somehow to adjust the count in a second db table.
safe harbor
Interesting, I've taken a look yesterday evening and it was at 73 and this morning something around 100.
random badger
🤷♂️there could totally be a bug in the logic somewhere.
safe harbor
103 rn, not sure how much traffic goes thru, but 103 views took me 3 days where Prism is listed since late October with 77 views. Either my placebo plugin that has no description and a fancy drawn image is more interesting or there is a flaw in the calculation lol
cursive kraken
It first adds 1 to the view count every time you view it and then runs a query every 30 minutes or so to calculate the total views in ore
random badger
I forget if I set the time to 30 mins, but I was pretty sure I did exactly what y'all did on ore.
but maybe not, ill look at it later
cursive kraken
Its a config option in ore
random badger
yeah, it is in hangar too, I just forget what it defaults to
pallid yoke
Bump vue-cli-plugin-webpack-bundle-analyzer from 2.0.0 to 4.0.0
who needs 3.0 anyways
random badger
Ikr?
sly mason
windows 7, windows 8, windows 8.1, windows 10 
Telling ya, they're all skipping numbers these days
narrow verge
Last time I tried to skip numbers I failed kindergarten again
midnight anchor
don't worry bout me ill be using my iphone 9
random badger
hangar needs a Battle Pass where you can unlock cosmetics
barren shale
can you properly embed yt vids or other media in markdown?
random badger
I forget the list of flexmark extensions installed, but that might already be supported
barren shale
would be good to know to convert BB's media tag 😛
barren shale
"transforms simple links to youtube videos" does this mean just plainly having the link in text or as a text with hyperlink?
pallid yoke
Test it? ^^
random badger
idk, but it sounds like just plaintext
barren shale
testing is for noobs pf
random badger
We probably should write at least one of our own extensions for mentioning users/projects
barren shale
is that addon already installed? otherwise maybe it doesn't work because of the custom linkout urls?
modest forge
Isn't linkout only where we manually add it in the templates tho?
Or is there something I missed in the markdown stuff too?
barren shale
ah the youtube link addon isn't installed
but eh time to sleep now, I bet I'll have troubles starting it locally again anyways 😂
mossy topaz
if I am to make a valuable contribution to hangar, what frameworks do I need to familiarize myself with?
I heard you were using Spring, right?
modest forge
Spring for the backend, freemarker and vue for the frontend
pallid yoke
Jdbi for db
modest forge
||(idk how much is left in freemarker)||
pallid yoke
Bootstrap for style
That is basically the setup
Freemarker is still there, it's there to stay
mossy topaz
is bootstrap its own framework, or is it the same as spring-boot?
I guess that question doesn't make sense; bootstrap concerns style
main lava
so I've just discovered Hangar, and I've got a few questions
Does it have dependency resolution for plugins?
And is there any sort of CLI for interfacing with it?
sly mason
There was some form of dependency thing
For cli, no; I'd imagine there is some dreams for the Gradle plugin sponge has for deployment to be ported or something, no idea if there was any plans on that
main lava
For a CLI, I was thinking more for server owners rather than devs. I was just talking about this over on the spigot discord. A CLI where a server owner could run hangar install DamageIndicators in their server dir and pull the plugin and dependencies. Would obviously provide updating functionality as well. Sort of like NPM/Yarn or Composer for server owners.
I just started working on the CLI. I was initially going to design it around the spigotmc.org resources, but I think designing it around hangar will be much better (and less hacky/web scrapey).
I'm guessing there's gonna be some sort of public API?
deft drift
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1644343169221358624/3834D487A3DE4ABF54B2DDF179CF404F897840DE/ looks pretty good, but it wont let me drive anywhere else in the city atm so f
ultra on a gtx 1080, so no raytracing or dlss stuff :/ but runs good :D
narrow verge
My favorite hangar plugin!
narrow verge
I'm guessing there's gonna be some sort of public API?
main lava
nice! I'm going to get to work integrating right away. It mentions that anything starting with _ is subject to change; is everything else pretty much guaranteed to be in the first proper release?
narrow verge
That part I don't know. I've only touched project querying -> https://github.com/Chewbotcca/Discord/blob/main/src/main/java/pw/chew/chewbotcca/commands/minecraft/HangarCommand.java
main lava
No worries, I'm already noticing some similarities with Spiget's API, which I'm using to provide spigotmc registry functionality, so porting that code shouldn't be too difficult.
deft drift
well i have an official spigot resource api that would help you there, but it doesnt do downloads
so far md_5 has refused to let me add that
but it would let you get metadata
you'd have to do CF fuckery for the DL tho
main lava
eugh. I'm already having problems with Spigot's external download links. I'm guessing that (for the much better) Hangar won't allow that?
main lava
Lovely. Because right now, I'm having to write handlers for every file format under the sun that Spiget gives me when I download a resource.
deft drift
i still need to do quite a lot of updates on the official api. i wonder if he'd let me add a download link at the very least
still would have to do CF fuckery to actually download it
but...at least there'd be a link
main lava
One more quick question (sorry to pester 😄). I'm just digging into the API a bit more, author, slug is a composite unique key? Can there be duplicate slugs by different authors?
deft drift
wdym
main lava
slug is the plugin name/identifier, correct?
main lava
so Tinkererr\EWG (hehe) and simple\EWG could both exist
main lava
well even if it's not the case, the fact there's uniqueness at all is such a relief
sly mason
last I knew, slug was unique in general
main lava
hmm, I can't see any GET endpoints on the API docs that accept just a slug, they all need an author
deft drift
yea the way the api is designed almost implies that the slug is unique among an author, not globally unique
and if the impl doesnt do it like that, thats a bug :D
main lava
even if slugs aren't globally unique, install --from=hangar Tinkererr/Core is much nicer than install --from=spigot 12394 😆
sly mason
slug varchar(255) not null, CONSTRAINT projects_namespace_unique UNIQUE (name, slug),
hm
So, yea, looks like simp is correct
I coulda sworn that there was a discussion around not allowing a name to be used by multiple people, maybe name is generally a nono but the slugs fine? see what the people who know what they're talking about say tomorrow i guess
main lava
okay, thanks for your help 🙂
btw, before I implement Hangar support on my CLI, are you guys okay with me interfacing with your API? Obviously, as hangar is still in the dev phase, there's no ToS (that I can see). I'd guess it's fine, judging by your choice of license, but there's no harm in double-checking.
deft drift
im pretty sure it's fine
API is there to use
if they didnt want you to use it they'd make it private
main lava
do you know if there's any plans for an acceptable use policy?
or is it more, if someone starts going crazy, you'll intervene
deft drift
well im not staff
but im pretty sure it's just "please use a sane user agent so we know who you are" and yes if your user agent starts hammering the server they'll probably be like, plz chill
sly mason
No idea if there is intent on a AUP, unofficially stuff like that's basically "don't be a cunt"
deft drift
is the api cached at all? if not do clientside caching in your own app to try and reduce how often you hit it. little things like that would be appreciated
main lava
and I don't plan on doing any sort of scraping/bulk extraction operations, which I guess is the sort of stuff that you'd be coming down on
sly mason
API is less traffic to us than API + site together, so, there's generally no reason why the API needs to be much more restrictive than what people can do browsing the site
silver panther
is there gonna be any sort of forums integration or nah
sly mason
yes
silver panther
to what extent? just account transfers, or discussion pages for resources and whatnot
sly mason
account and discussion page afaik
silver panther
very cool. I'm very excited for Hangar btw, i think it'll be a vast improvement over SpigotMC. I already love Ore, can't wait to see what you guys do with it
main lava
um, so I've just (rather hilariously) got an HTTP 418 status code when trying to call GET /api/v1/projects/{author}/{slug}/versions/{name}/download
sly mason
Next goal for hanger: make it run on a teasmade
main lava
in all seriousness, what, why, how?
main lava
well, at least I know that it's not my end's fault 😛
more questions from me 🙂 are you enforcing anything like semver?
narrow verge
this is getting scary lol
Atm we're not really 'enforcing' anything, nothing really has been set in stone
main lava
lol
sorry if I've come off as a bit "guns blazing" then
luckily for me, I'm solo contributing to my project right now, so I get to play BDFL
random badger
eugh. I'm already having problems with Spigot's external download links. I'm gue...
yeah, there actually is support for external links. And they do not have to link to a jar ( @narrow verge )
I forget what currently happens if you use the api to download a project that only has an external link
I think the best bet would be to return a separate response with that external url, but idk what's best
main lava
I think the best bet would be to return a separate response with that external u...
separate response to me sounds better, that way clients can decide whether or not they want to request the external archive, instead of blindly following a 301
main lava
are there any plans to implement some basic CI functionality, or is that down to devs?
sly mason
That's down to devs, ci is expensive and a cluster fuck
pallid yoke
Yeah, just use github actions
We can def provide a GitHub action to deploy to hangar tho I guess
main lava
are there hangar badges for readmes?
ore has some, but i assume it would take time for shields.io to add them
so a built in badge api would make sense?
main lava
lol i gotta learn yarn and image api?
Or wait maybe i can find a easy workaround
i mean can i parse json with shields.io?
pallid yoke
No clue
This would be done in java anyways
As a spring controller
That returns a svg
main lava
No clue
https://img.shields.io/badge/dynamic/json?url=<URL>&label=<LABEL>&query=<$.DATA.SUBDATA>&color=<COLOR>&prefix=<PREFIX>&suffix=<SUFFIX>
I assume it would make sense when i made an PR to shields.io adding hangar api support. With a default url to papers hangar instance and an editable hangar url.
Because i think there may be some people who also host hangar.
pallid yoke
No clue what their requirements for adding stuff like this are
main lava
They already have ore and spigot badges so it shouldn't be a too hard step.
pallid yoke
It should be trivial to write our own generator
main lava
Yeah sure, but im kinda out there. I can't even draw with ms paint 
Maybe I will look into that stuff later on.
For now imma just open a github issue. Probably backlog then
pallid yoke
That's the cool thing about svgs tho
No drawing required
Can just copy paste the shields.io badge, edit the text and be done
Lol
main lava
lol
I rly gotta start getting further in java than coding simple mc plugins
Dev todo:
- Learn kotlin
- Learn spring
- Yarn
ivory ingot
😂
main lava
Lmao ok
I just wanted to check out how good kotlin is over java
I guess you guys hate it?
The structure is kinda weird...
barren shale
wrong channel 
main lava
Imma just make it step 3 then
main lava
wrong channel <:smolEyes:718683025558208532>
Oh... lol imma stop
barren shale
don’t have to stop, just move to paper dev or general 😛
main lava
don’t have to stop, just move to paper dev or general 😛
Isn't paper dev as bad to talk about this than this channel? Hangar is written in java too
Nah im just not gonna complain
misty mountain
#paper-dev is "paper and completely off-topic development help"
main lava
Ah
ebon mulch
whats a hangar
narrow verge
Topic
random badger
A hangar is where you either hang your clothes, or store a plane.
cedar grotto
no for clothes that's a hanger
a hangar is a song with a loud, energetic beat that is good for dancing to.
random badger
I’m sorry, I meant to say a “/ˈhaNGər/“ is for storing planes or hanging clothes.
(I assume the phonetic spelling is the same)
main lava
works perfectly 
ok im running the database, the backend + mail + redis seem to be running too the frontent is installed and served.
hmmm
and it spams my console with keepalive stuff
my database
wtf is this lmao
hm i seem to be doi n g s o m e t h i n g w r o n g
my keyboard
uh
ok imma restart all my containers
- Start database inside docker
- Backend + Hangar Auth dropped in
- Frontend (yarn run serve)
- Try to connect to port 8081
long loading followed of white page
mhm
but the proper html is there
console
sly mason
Auth is dead though
main lava
yeah i tried to go without it, but it said at docker building that auth was missing
so i assumed it was required
wow
that seems why
i assume i need to use linux then?
ok time to boot into linux
here i am again
yup seems to be loading something now
oh there we go
cool
main lava
Yeah seems like that
But i think the auth stuff is mostly still from sponge?
Like that terms of service and the google login stuff
Do you have maybe some "good first issue" issues?
pallid yoke
Yeah we didn't touch sponge auth really
Just some minor design stuff
I still wanna rewrite that one, md started doing it
I think some issues are labeled with good first issue on GitHub
main lava
Ok thanks
viscid lion
Hi I saw in the review post of 2020 that you are in need of webdesings well I am not one anymore I am taking front end courses and I would like to help if I have the capacity for what is necessary, but also I am Brazilian and I do not speak English , I can only communicate with a translator 😭 , I really like your work and would like to help
lunar tartan
Quick question, are you still looking for web designers? 🙂
pallid yoke
Yes
Basically somebody who helps us create a proper CI for hangar, maybe the main website too and basically give hangar a fresh and consistent coat of paint
The current contributors are all developers, most of us don't even have much web experience, yet alone being able to design stuff
lunar tartan
That sounds good to me. I have not learned this yet I am familiar with the use of various languages. I'll take a look at it right now. 🙂
Could you do that with a eignes team, since I have under me loud to what we support each other. 🙂
pallid yoke
Well yeah, while web developers would be helpful too (every contribution is appreciated!), We really need somebody who thinks like a designer
vagrant ridge
I see web development, but I see jquery, but I see vue
I'm conflicted >:(
I mean, if you have any issues related to styling (imo it looks scuffed currently) then I'd be happy to help
pallid yoke
Yes please
jQuery is kinda legacy, the frontend is more or less a fork of ore
Some parts have been rewritten in Vue, but we also need to server render some stuff for Google and that uses freemarker currently
vagrant ridge
just saw https://github.com/PaperMC/Hangar/issues/186 is somone still working on this?
pallid yoke
But we also could use help with webpack config stuff, all the tree shaking and module/chunk splitting etc, that's a black box for me and whenever I touch it shit breaks, lol
I don't think so, no
vagrant ridge
you can fuck with tree shaking 
if I do anything then it will be my first contribution to someone elses repo so apologies if I fuck up the PR, any tips?
pallid yoke
I added webpack bundle analysier, opened it, cried, and closed it again
Well, discussing what you gonna change is a good step, everything else we can figure out then
If you got any questions how anything works, just ask, multiple ppl here can answer
I also wanna work on stuff today, not too sure what yet. Maybe first organizing all open tasks and stuff to get a feel what needs to be done, lol
vagrant ridge
no nuxt make me sad
pallid yoke
I mean, in wouldn't mind redoing everything UI wise, lol
It's just, that's kinda work, and hangar is overall pretty close to being done i think
It's just that SEO is a prio so server side rendering at least some of the content is important too
vagrant ridge
makes sense, nuxt provides ssr support but everything is in java already
pallid yoke
Yeah, that's the thing
I wouldn't know how I would get java data into nuxt for ssr and shit
Unless you would call a rest api i guess
But then that has overhead and everything is a nightmare
vagrant ridge
I know that there's things like Intertia.js for laravel that can inject props, it just prevents rendering json into the views manually
I'll try find if there's something like that for spring
pallid yoke
Sounds good
main lava
just curious i dont plan to use this but whats the reason in making it open source
is it supposed to be used so people make their own smaller sites?
mossy topaz
so anyone can collaborate to improve it
for the exact same reasons you make other things open-source as well
modest bisonBOT
Ore is also open source, so why not give the world back something?
barren shale
^ there's 0 reason to keep closed-sourced, especially in this community
pallid yoke
just curious i dont plan to use this but whats the reason in making it open sour...
That's the wrong attitude. I personally open source by default, unless there is a hard reason to not do it
This is an open community, paper and hangar would be nothing without it's contributors
midnight anchor
just curious i dont plan to use this but whats the reason in making it open sour...
what would be the reason to make it closed source
solemn zenith
Tbh I had the same question, but you can actually compare it to Geyser now I think of it.
Why do we make make things open-source, just to make it easier for people to make their own version of the project and sell it as their own?
But like KennyTV and MiniDigger are saying; this community is build upon open-source projects. Just think of it: Spigot, Paper, Sponge, Bungeecord, Velocity, ViaVersion, Geyser etc. are all open-source. We learn and help others and we get help / learn things from others. It's actually pretty cool when you think of it that a lot of people in this community make their code (projects where they could've spend weeks / months on) publicly available.
pallid yoke
and for hangar in particular, we "lose" nothing. even if others setup instances and run them for paper plugins, paper would still run the offical instance, so no real traffic lost, and more instances = more users = more feature requests, suggestions, fixes, which can be contributed since the source is right there
glad shuttle
I'm gonna go through and remove jQuery and switch to typescript and also break everything
mental star
WASM
pallid yoke
if that doesnt ruin seo, be my guest ^^
glad shuttle
actually I'll do it in kotlin JS
and rewrite the backend in kotlin
so the whole project will be 1 language
then we can use the kotlin html builder and get rid of freemarker too
kotlin everything
kotlin for life
kotlin is love
but really though that would be cool, even if unrealistic, don't @ me
mental star
then you can play around with kotlin/native and wasm too lol
stiff token
That's why I was planning to do with my website - backend and frontend written in Rust 🙂
mental star
I'd hop in if it's kotlin!
stiff token
Though Rust can't compile to JS, needs WASM.
I'd love to try Kotlin JS and help, but AFAIK hangar is almost done already.
glad shuttle
no time like now to throw out everything and start from scratch again amirite
mental star
we should invent a new language for hangar
little elm
hanglang
dusk tendon
hanguage?
modest forge
langar
misty mountain
wen
pallid yoke
mental star
i want mathjax integration !