the-silents

[topaz heart]

20tps

[viscid eagle]

oh there it goes

[topaz heart]

no crashes

[rancid sentinel]

how did camm get muted lol

[topaz heart]

deserved

[viscid eagle]

at five fps

[harsh oar]

You don't need FPS for a text editor

[viscid eagle]

text editor

machine maker what's your resolution

[harsh oar]

Lower FPS means your bitrate can go to making those frames look good so you have a chunky but readable thing instead of a smooth mess

[viscid eagle]

no i mean the resolution of your screen not the discord stream lol

you explained the cut-off-sides bit

kde

[topaz heart]

thats a full hd stream

3440x1440

ultrawide pog

[viscid eagle]

wow

mine is 2560x1440 lol

[topaz heart]

ultrawide 😎

[velvet star]

Spotted leaf has a lot of fans 👀

[fair prawn]

Ultraultrawide

[tribal osprey]

gross

clean up your discord server list

[jovial olive]

Did you end up having to redo all of kenny's work?

[rancid sentinel]

no

[topaz heart]

ill join a thousand more

[viscid eagle]

im curious in all this development, how much minecraft do you all actually play?

what would you say the ratio of development to playtime is

[fading token]

So did Kenny fix the 21 commits he had to do?

[brisk zephyr]

No

[stiff pulsar]

yes

[viscid eagle]

me when i lie

[rancid sentinel]

@stiff pulsar yeah, just append .patch at the end of the url

[keen frost]

put .patch at the end

.diff works too

[woven anvil]

Yeah, we are calling Mojang mappings normal mappings now.

[rancid sentinel]

was an issue, https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/7021

[viscid iris]

is mm looking at holder?

is that a new mojang class in 1.18.2?

[stiff pulsar]

ye there's Holders of everything, even of leaf

[fair prawn]

holder moment

[stiff pulsar]

https://i.imgur.com/58uuCJL.png

[harsh oar]

hodl moment

[rancid sentinel]

../scripts/upstreamMerge.sh

./*

[fair prawn]

@stiff pulsar u make sense

[woven anvil]

For Mini it's a hold my beer moment.

[meager cove]

this stuff looking complicated

[woven anvil]

Just a lot of work. Complicated nah, just sometime error prune.

[stiff pulsar]

https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/c8b88b37b024479685143003c31c63a7

[viscid iris]

STACK OVERFLOW

OMG

[stiff pulsar]

(don't forget to apply the contributing patch)

((very important))

[rancid sentinel]

Amazing spigot-like performance here

[viscid eagle]

what's a codec used for here?

i see

so then how is that different from a Data,, something

what are they called hangon

a DataConverter

[fading token]

This looks centered.

[jovial olive]

Well it is centered... just not very well.

[cedar belfry]

leaf please fix leaf they are decaying and falling apart

[keen frost]

look at what else is dangerous, https://github.com/discord/discord-api-docs

[short wave]

paper.dethemium.com:7117 <-- very early paper 1.18.2 test server, all default configs (for now)

[steel onyx]

you crashed my game ):

[keen frost]

yeah unsaved progress

lost all my hard work

can't even log in anymore

just loads and then crashes

it just hangs and gets killed

forever

something totally cursed about your server

still can't join, but I get all chat

and it just crashes my client after a while

yeah

I used to be stuck at the same spot

why do you summon them ON ME

did you upload the corrupted file?

yeah

yeah 3bf is me

you probably did git config user.name --global

my player data is messed up again

stuck at the same spot

still get chat

oh no it died now

260k, not 26

[wintry merlin]

yeah, luckly it was pretty recently, just has to force push like 5 pr branches that I found had --global as the name

[wet lichen]

https://github.com/jpenilla/squaremap/blob/master/paper/src/main/java/xyz/jpenilla/squaremap/paper/util/PaperChunkSnapshotProvider.java#L28-L37

[keen frost]

no

128k markers

they don't tick

but they are on the list

datapacks

wait until its viaversion or something

there are 65k snowballs at spawn

you must have loaded that

no

same loading terrain

chat was in logs

[solemn forum]

Where do I add my contribution comment on OpenCollective? Never saw an option
Edit: <#general message>

[wintry merlin]

@wet lichen just curious, what changed in the branches? Some patch file lost its history or smth?

[wet lichen]

kenny did a merge and everything was out of order

[wintry merlin]

Oh the merge. Yeah.

[wet lichen]

going to bed

[viscid eagle]

that's FUNNY

[stiff hull]

@hidden torrent eter what you doing in vc lmao

[hidden torrent]

@stiff hull parked there 2 days ago and now just wanna see how long it will last

[stiff hull]

lmaoo

[cursive nacelle]

.

[proven heath]

…

[plain wraith]

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[shrewd robin]

very cool

[tribal osprey]

GOOD MORNING @stiff pulsar

[tiny crown]

good night

[carmine wadi]

Ban me

[feral crane]

Why?

[still skiff]

😂

[chilly marten]

yes

[latent moss]

[feral crane]

Replays or whatever?

[neat scarab]

No it's not real I don't even have 2.66 TB of space on my PC

It probably has something to do with the anticheat being funny and maybe claiming disk space to scan it?

[late ginkgo]

On windows that shouldve sent like 90 red flags and crash because Ms defender protects Microsoft's data

I guess it didn't though

[late ginkgo]

It goes against everything I know about data storage that does

It might be the ant cheat toying with the file that keeps the info on data storage though

I don't think that's healthy though

[delicate charm]

valorant's anticheat has kernal level access to the system (it is basically above windows defender in permissions)

[late ginkgo]

Jnsane

[latent moss]

Yes, if it were ever hijacked

[manic ore]

[rapid notch]

No kotlin

No thanks

Functions aren't "fun"

[neat scarab]

facts

[latent moss]

f=O(g): ⇔∃ n₀∈ℕ, c∈ℝ, c>0: ∀n≥n₀ f(n)≤c×g(n)

[rancid sentinel]

no kotlin? i assume people instead prefer scala?

[harsh oar]

ha, no

Kotlin is the best non-Java language for the JVM

People just argue on whether you should use something other than Java

[cyan wolf]

It's also just a thing to hate on it

[sinful haven]

lol

[latent moss]

why we have a

and a

emoji, but only a

sticker?

[feral crane]

Because we have to uphold the balance of power

[tiny crown]

Scala emoji wen?

[harsh oar]

Scala doesn't matter enough to have an emote either way

[keen frost]

[graceful cargo]

[maiden inlet]

good

[harsh oar]

[proven otter]

[worn prawn]

@onyx stag what is the best pc for linux ?

what about your computer

hello @still skiff and @foggy gorge

[still skiff]

Hi

[feral crane]

Please don't ping random team members

[valid python]

they were in voice together

[feral crane]

Oh

[frail flax]

@wary mango

[topaz heart]

are we in vc now

[rich viper]

DADDY

[dapper minnow]

ey

[toxic panther]

I can't see her stream

it's full

[valid python]

https://clips.twitch.tv/HumbleHyperSowPunchTrees-LeZk-2gKFxmzEJcJ

[quaint hedge]

just installed the new geyser & viaversion update so my players can join with 1.19. The console:

debugging time

[dapper trench]

I think 10 users is the max number

[dapper minnow]

I think you can fix it if you do a event

that more people can watch

[valid python]

https://www.twitch.tv/kennytvn

[vernal geyser]

Unmute all at once in vc

[twilit flame]

will there be an announcement for @.everyone or @announcments when paper 1.19 is out

[upbeat bobcat]

yup

[valid python]

yea

[twilit flame]

cant wait

[toxic panther]

Paper come out today ?

[neat karma]

__There Is No ETA__

Updates to Paper do not have any sort of estimate for when they release, ever. Any and all updates will arrive when they are ready, and the only thing to do is wait for them patiently along with everyone else.

ETA means 'Estimated Time of Arrival'!

[keen frost]

@wintry merlin 1.19 branch

https://hub.spigotmc.org/stash/projects/SPIGOT/repos/fernflower/commits/a28fc59ef4a4c9ecaaeb752c2afd751dedc0ba16

[dapper trench]

What is fernflower?

[keen frost]

decompiler used by spigot

[dapper trench]

Ahhh

[granite pendant]

i want know why spigot 1.19 is out so quick

[keen frost]

they have a slightly modified version

[plush crag]

was also wondering about that 😅

[granite pendant]

is 1.19 a small update??? i saw many people call it Caves & Cliffs: Part III

[keen frost]

because they do snapshots, just in private

so he has been working on updating for quite a while, as 1.19-rc2 and 1.19 are almost identical

java update isn't an issue

[harsh oar]

The java update was irrelevant

[wild parrot]

sorry ik u get this question 400 times already but do you think itll be done soon ish

[quiet lily]

I apologize (I love spreading misinformation online)

[neat karma]

__There Is No ETA__

Updates to Paper do not have any sort of estimate for when they release, ever. Any and all updates will arrive when they are ready, and the only thing to do is wait for them patiently along with everyone else.

ETA means 'Estimated Time of Arrival'!

[keen frost]

I speak french

[wild parrot]

so it could be an hour or a week

[keen frost]

well, ... did. not so well anymore since I've moved

[tribal osprey]

@stiff pulsar

xx

x

x

[keen frost]

send him an email

[static robin]

chirp

[toxic panther]

Nice !

Now it's time to paper !

[wild parrot]

how long did 1.18 take

[static robin]

Is the new key-pair for chat similar to the normal MC UUID? but per session?

[harsh oar]

3 weeks

[keen frost]

version is auto incremented @feral crane

[wild parrot]

what

[keen frost]

https://github.com/PaperMC/patched-spigot-fernflower/blob/master/build.gradle.kts#L10

[static robin]

it took 3 weeks to update

[wild parrot]

i dont think it did

[static robin]

[toxic panther]

1.19 it's more easy i think

[rapid wagon]

what are they talking about right now? what github run number?

[harsh oar]

I wouldn't have called 1.18 usable until the 1.18.1 builds

[static robin]

I'm sure 1.18 was harder because it had a lot of world gen changes

[wild parrot]

yea

do you think itll be done tomorrow

[rancid sentinel]

lol no

[static robin]

lol

[wild parrot]

balls

i remembered it taking like a week for 1.18

if that

idk maybe i remember wrong

[harsh oar]

I think the first 1.18 build was the same day as the release though because spigot made public prerelease builds

[static robin]

I'd say by friday at the earliest?

[harsh oar]

So that's a bad comparison

[static robin]

maybe Thursday

[limpid zealot]

other softwares are already on 1.19 so i dont think it would be friday

[harsh oar]

Spigot is upstream, it's always going to be on 1.19 first

[wild parrot]

can i host a server with just spigot or no

[harsh oar]

Paper can't start until Spigot 1.19 comes out

[limpid zealot]

ig

[static robin]

because discord is stupid yet brilliant

[limpid zealot]

spigot/bukkit is on 1.19 i think

[keen frost]

yes you can, just don't upgrade your 1.18 paper world to spigot 1.19

[wild parrot]

wasnt going to

[keen frost]

you'd want to generate a new world and/or take a backup and restore to the original on paper 1.19 release

[woven horizon]

how many times have yall had to say “no eta”

[static robin]

no eta on answer

[harsh oar]

Spigot gets to work on snapshots and prereleases and have the first release build be "trivial"

[neat karma]

__There Is No ETA__

Updates to Paper do not have any sort of estimate for when they release, ever. Any and all updates will arrive when they are ready, and the only thing to do is wait for them patiently along with everyone else.

ETA means 'Estimated Time of Arrival'!

[harsh oar]

Paper has to wait for Spigot to publish something though

[limpid zealot]

spigot has published something i think

[harsh oar]

Ok, yes

But that was just minutes ago

[limpid zealot]

yeah

[harsh oar]

Updating Paper is probably as much or more work than updating Spigot

But Paper has to wait for Spigot to release something first

[limpid zealot]

okay

[feral crane]

@wheat prairie https://clips.twitch.tv/HumbleHyperSowPunchTrees-LeZk-2gKFxmzEJcJ

[harsh oar]

So it'll be a while, Spigot has been preparing for 1.19 for weeks

[rapid wagon]

why wont they release snapshots and pre's then so paper could update too

[lone totem]

hard fork wen

[static robin]

I thought Paper was trying to go independent of spigot?

[harsh oar]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[static robin]

LucidChart commercial rn.

[harsh oar]

Can't go independent of Spigot until there is a solution for plugin hosting

[static robin]

Visual your processes and more. With lucid chart

[static robin]

ohhhh right...

[hidden torrent]

@wheat prairie

[static robin]

Hanger 😅

[limpid zealot]

damn i cant play my paper server now

[harsh oar]

ViaVersion

[limpid zealot]

i only use paper so i can make my server crossplay between bedrock and java

otherwise i would just use vanilla

[static robin]

What kind of paper.. is paper? recycled?

[wheat prairie]

trash

[static robin]

Isn't all recycled paper, once trash?

[limpid zealot]

wait

so paper relies on spigot?

[static robin]

Yeah

Until they release Hanger

[limpid zealot]

whats hanger

[static robin]

/hanger

uh

ofc

It's papers verison of the spigot plugin resource host

[limpid zealot]

the stream is to full

[static robin]

I couldn't think of the right word

[keen frost]

server jar is linked from client json

same with mappings

[valid python]

common-slang

[static robin]

https://hangar.benndorf.dev/

[limpid zealot]

ok

[static robin]

what exactly does "Mojang provided key-pair on startup" mean and what does it do for developers?

Could you relate it to like, session UUID's?

[limpid zealot]

whats the fun

[wild parrot]

what does this mean #paper-github message

[limpid zealot]

thinm it menas

means*

[valid python]

exactly what it says

[limpid zealot]

you can help th4em?

them*

[wild parrot]

prepare for 1.19

[limpid zealot]

cant wait

[wild parrot]

so soon™ or not soon™

[neat karma]

__There Is No ETA__

Updates to Paper do not have any sort of estimate for when they release, ever. Any and all updates will arrive when they are ready, and the only thing to do is wait for them patiently along with everyone else.

ETA means 'Estimated Time of Arrival'!

[plush crag]

💀

[wintry merlin]

paperweight.filter-patches

[keen frost]

there are two different things

system properties vs this

[molten sage]

https://tenor.com/view/1984-gif-19260546

[keen frost]

https://github.com/PaperMC/paperweight/blob/ee77d0c026219605437ba3604a36741a1fdfa142/paperweight-lib/src/main/kotlin/tasks/RebuildPaperPatches.kt#L120

[potent locust]

tHiS sTrEaM hAs ThE mAxImUm aMoUnT oF vIeWeRs

[limpid zealot]

IK

[patent apex]

https://www.twitch.tv/kennytvn

[limpid zealot]

im lucky to get inside

[molten sage]

holy shit vozifylol is inside??

[limpid zealot]

yes

[limpid zealot]

no way

[static robin]

Watch on both

ha

Full paper stream mode

[viscid iris]

commons-lang is "deprecated"

@wintry merlin

[valid python]

import *;

[static robin]

I like that

It's efficient. Clean code

[thin flame]

Hello

Why I am unable to watch the stream ;-;

[viscid iris]

not invented here syndrome

[valid python]

watch on twitch^^ Discord has a weird limit

[thin flame]

Give link thanks

[valid python]

Pins

[thin flame]

👍

[rancid sentinel]

wait, spigot uses mojmapping?

since when

[haughty flint]

b r u h

[feral crane]

use twitch https://www.twitch.tv/kennytvn

[hidden torrent]

@wheat prairie duck leaf. the police is out searching for you outside

[feral crane]

https://i.imgur.com/xVYxmB1.png

so close

[remote scarab]

so excited!!!!

[viscid iris]

chattype is just a key

[remote scarab]

how long does it normally take for the coding to be finished?

🧐

[feral crane]

quite some time, you should try to stay awake 😄

[smoky temple]

oh god

[foggy harbor]

why is the channel name in german?

[remote scarab]

😱 but it is only 12"37pm here buhahaha so maybe I shall be able to update server today!!!

[feral crane]

paper is secretly ruled by germans

[rancid sentinel]

secretely?

[foggy harbor]

oh damn lucky i am german too xD

[rancid sentinel]

beautiful

[foggy harbor]

[feral crane]

its the enhanced text mode

[neat karma]

__There Is No ETA__

Updates to Paper do not have any sort of estimate for when they release, ever. Any and all updates will arrive when they are ready, and the only thing to do is wait for them patiently along with everyone else.

ETA means 'Estimated Time of Arrival'!

[viscid iris]

can't wait for mojang to add 4D biomes so leaf has to start over

[ripe onyx]

https://f.u11.io/CQbY97 😦

[viscid iris]

#786421696625770496 btw

[ripe onyx]

what's the twitch stream url?

found it https://www.twitch.tv/kennytvn

[valid python]

pinned btw^^

Also twitch.tv/PaperPowered will always host the person streaming rn

[worn prawn]

hey @stiff pulsar What is the probability of something like PaperCord coming up?

[viscid iris]

velocity

[woven anvil]

Yeah, velo ❤️

[viscid iris]

also you get kicked if you send messages out of order

[worn prawn]

@onyx stag

Vault cannot use the economy api if there is no economy plugin like essentials.
How can I make an economy system like in Essentials?

[valid python]

Why are you asking for support in here, ask in the proper channels and don't ping random people

[worn prawn]

I'm sorry, I thought the question might be asked here

[viscid iris]

the vanilla server doesn't use preview, right? i thought the point was that vanilla was sufficient with the types and using translatable components but they added the dynamic stuff for custom servers

[valid python]

twitch experts, can I see when I created a prediction somehow?

[viscid iris]

pretty sure like most chat plugins haven't even updated to use identities so this doesn't affect them

[potent locust]

Click your channel points -> click the predictions -> Started 24 minutes ago.

[valid python]

aah

nice

Why don't they tell you that in the modview

[winged tinsel]

Hangar wen

[wintry merlin]

it defaults to false in server.properties

so you can enable it

[rancid sentinel]

yeah sorry for fucking up vodafone

[viscid iris]

but what does that do for vanilla

does it stop using chattype?

[wintry merlin]

no it still does

they are two different things

[viscid iris]

i get that they're two different things

but i thought they accomplished the same goal

[wintry merlin]

no. chat preview allows the server to modify a message and then have the client still sign it

[viscid iris]

yes

[wintry merlin]

chattype just tells the server how to format the message it gets from either the system chat packet or player chat packet

[viscid iris]

okay

[viscid iris]

i still don't understand why vanilla needs preview then

[rancid sentinel]

👺

[quaint hedge]

Ruler.exe

[viscid iris]

right

[quaint hedge]

|| https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/6c34f9c96820e1bf124cef37ffe8a96aba82dc17b519944eab46f0ac0e0f08ce ||

[viscid iris]

so the vanilla preview option doesn't do anything..? which is what i asked?

[graceful cargo]

@wheat prairie run this

[harsh oar]

[viscid iris]

ok great

yeah sorry if i didn't phrase is great lol

[quaint hedge]

|| Procexp.exe||

[viscid iris]

i'm glad they added a dynamic system via the preview otherwise it would have been horrible

[feral crane]

brb

[viscid iris]

i think this is workable but ofc legacy is gonna stay legacy so this doesn't affect them

[graceful cargo]

@wet lichen

[wet lichen]

nice

[viscid iris]

woah

[idle mountain]

Chat preview example

[viscid iris]

neat

[tribal osprey]

That is very epic

[hidden torrent]

PROFESSIONAL

[woven dust]

I’ll do it rn

[viscid iris]

doesn't it have a 1 second delay? what if you send enter really fast? does the client wait for the response before actually sending

[harsh oar]

The delay is variable, don't remember the specifics

[idle mountain]

About a fifth second delay, havent had any issues with it failing because client and server disagree

[viscid iris]

hmm okay

[rancid sentinel]

ah, so you can't predict when someone is going to press enter and quickly change their message

[harsh oar]

I wonder if it blocks sending until the preview is updated or just silently waits for the preview packet, signs it, and sends it

[viscid iris]

well i think it's rather about that it doesn't spam the server with every single character you press

[harsh oar]

They already do that every 50ms with walking around, what's wrong with typing? 😄

[viscid iris]

components can be big

[hidden torrent]

LOL

ghahaehahaha

[quaint hedge]

|| MQTT-Explorer-0.4.0-beta1.exe ||

[wet lichen]

https://github.com/jpenilla/better-fabric-console/blob/master/src/main/java/xyz/jpenilla/betterfabricconsole/BetterFabricConsole.java#L82

[tribal osprey]

Why does rymiel still have their table

@molten sage x

@molten sage x

@molten sage x

[molten sage]

@tribal osprey x

@gritty nova

[gritty nova]

Hello o/

[tribal osprey]

Hello :D

[viscid iris]

🤔

[tribal osprey]

You shouldn't have your table

after making the epic web ui for minimessage

[rancid sentinel]

aurora pls fix

[tribal osprey]

@long stone 🥺

[viscid iris]

https://github.com/KyoriPowered/adventure/blob/main/4/text-logger-slf4j/src/main/java/net/kyori/adventure/text/logger/slf4j/WrappingComponentLoggerImpl.java

it takes a Function<Component, String>

[swift grove]

is kenny streaming on twitch? bc im in the discord rn and would gladly give my twitch prime for paper XD

[molten sage]

https://www.twitch.tv/kennytvn

[tribal osprey]

Watch on twitch!

Link above

[molten sage]

discord screenshare is shit anyway

[stiff pulsar]

https://i.imgur.com/cbIK4dc.png

[tribal osprey]

don't worry, machine will make 300 API PRs in the next few days

[viscid iris]

make 50 prs at the same time so the stale bot goes off on them all at once

[harsh oar]

It already does 😛

MM rebases all his PRs at the same time

[keen frost]

jroy limbo is dead

[graceful cargo]

[past ridge]

i have no clue whats going on but it sounds interesting

[tribal osprey]

Hahaha

[graceful cargo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/876902758366736457/906750352790003742/jroy_development.mp4

[viscid iris]

https://github.com/KyoriPowered/adventure/blob/69683764a1a1cb6e9369531e11b7f261f98fde84/text-serializer-legacy/src/main/java/net/kyori/adventure/text/serializer/legacy/LegacyComponentSerializerImpl.java#L333

[winged tinsel]

that's why you use Linux

[rapid wagon]

@wheat prairie I'm taking calc 3 as a summer class 💀

bro its async aswell

+physics2

[viscid iris]

async school

[rapid wagon]

its like 3 weeks ago to start to like a few monthes from now

[valid python]

FastAsyncCalculus

[rapid wagon]

i think till aug12

[viscid iris]

async just means fast

totally how concurrency works

[rapid wagon]

nah I dont understand shit here but its a prereq for compsci

[valid python]

just don't study ez

become a discord mod instead

[rapid wagon]

soon tm

[viscid iris]

chest boat dupe bug when?

[valid python]

chest dupe, duplicate your chest

[viscid iris]

you can't craft them

[dry ginkgo]

bundles are on the shelf right?

[viscid iris]

pretty sure since like 1.17

[gritty nova]

I know some calculus if you need help ^^

[dry ginkgo]

They are not in because they where not able to get it to work in bedrock. Idk why

[hidden torrent]

@graceful cargo @wheat prairie archaeology when? archaeology when? archaeology when???

[viscid iris]

what the fuck is ifPart2

[dry ginkgo]

LMAO

Blame someone for crappy code.

[viscid iris]

oh right

well it sure is still there

[wintry merlin]

yeah, super helpful

[viscid iris]

1.20 will actually be written in clojure

[rancid sentinel]

spigot moment

[feral crane]

I bet ifPart2 means ifCavesAndCliffsPart2 or something

[viscid iris]

yes

but they never removed it

[dry ginkgo]

lol

[feral crane]

well, its used, for the bundle

[viscid iris]

wtf is Cubxity doing with baritone

[haughty wren]

did plugin.yml library loading break? all my plugins that use it don't load anymore because it can't find a method lol

[rancid sentinel]

building kenny

[viscid iris]

that class is super fun to look at in a terminal when decompiling

[idle mountain]

I have actually made villager trades configurable via datapacks xD
https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/villagerconfig

[rancid sentinel]

quiltflower is amazing

supercoder had a comparison somewhere

https://gist.github.com/SuperCoder7979/c7171b0e34b6eccf0b9f1c37030867dc

[dry ginkgo]

Damn

[thin flame]

Any ETA uwu

[neat karma]

__There Is No ETA__

Updates to Paper do not have any sort of estimate for when they release, ever. Any and all updates will arrive when they are ready, and the only thing to do is wait for them patiently along with everyone else.

ETA means 'Estimated Time of Arrival'!

[dry ginkgo]

Where is twitch stream?

I am dumb.

[wintry merlin]

https://twitch.tv/kennytvn

[brisk haven]

what are you all working on

[outer pond]

[hearty rose]

me just getting Kenny to open cursed images on stream

amazing

[rancid sentinel]

nice

[wintry merlin]

is that from one of my commits?

[rancid sentinel]

kenny

from his last one

https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/commit/cac4deb8823658f5e86627ce0d8c58c92fee303d#diff-21fddf060e3b3de50847191894418fc44ccb397b6b851542faf6cad33984458c

[wild parrot]

soon™️

[rancid sentinel]

[rancid sentinel]

only two more errors with the latest cdommit, surprising

[lean helm]

Thanks for the hard work all!

[feral crane]

those are all just api stuff tho

only 25 errors without the api

[rancid sentinel]

they aren't

[feral crane]

17 if you add one import

[rancid sentinel]

api compiles fine

[feral crane]

yes, but kenny added all api patches

of course server will not compile in this state

if you remove most api patches again, you only have a handful of issues in paper-server

[nimble star]

I had to step away for a little, are things going well in there?

[feral crane]

those issues we will need to fix

[rancid sentinel]

didn't realize that, lol

[feral crane]

most fo these are really easy

some of them are thanks to the adventure patch, those are fucked

[last marsh]

unfortunately only 3700x lol, eying the 7000 series though 👀

[hidden torrent]

wow 2004

leaf was literally 1 year old

@wheat prairie

[rancid sentinel]

there's also an author field in the intellij ui

on the right

[hidden torrent]

leaf just stream muted

https://www.twitch.tv/spottedstar

[quaint hedge]

@stiff pulsar what plugins do you have in your idea ultimate eap?

whats the name of the theme?

[rancid sentinel]

it's the new ui preview

https://resources.jetbrains.com/installers/intellij/new_ui_preview.jar

[quaint hedge]

thx

[remote scarab]

i am guessing that paper wont be ready today 🥲

[turbid aspen]

its rare that a paper update is released the same day as the spigot update for a major version

[remote scarab]

good point. it was a hope hahaha

[rapid wagon]

@wheat prairie can you go live in discord?

[rancid sentinel]

who was that lmao

[meager cove]

what does #851516819177209878 mean?

[quaint hedge]

Developmentsounds

[hidden torrent]

@karmic quest https://www.twitch.tv/spottedstar

(not furry)

[rancid sentinel]

yeah... sure

[green forge]

so much reverb

[karmic quest]

I unfortunately have him followed already

[hidden torrent]

yeah very unfortunate

[rancid sentinel]

am gonna head out, good luck with the async chunk stuff leaf

[dusk igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/iggydr-dr-nick-nick-dr-doctor-gif-19040004

Good work so far on the patches!

[past ridge]

Hey has the paper updated to 1.19?

[neat karma]

__There Is No ETA__

Updates to Paper do not have any sort of estimate for when they release, ever. Any and all updates will arrive when they are ready, and the only thing to do is wait for them patiently along with everyone else.

ETA means 'Estimated Time of Arrival'!

[sterile swallow]

hacker

how

i want that

my eyes are seriously in pain

[sterile swallow]

bru the end

[quaint hedge]

3 Step Tutorial to get Dark Mode on Spottedleaf's Stream:

1. Use youtube-dl or yt-dlp to Pipe the Stream Video to Vlc

yt-dlp https://www.twitch.tv/spottedstar -o -  | vlc -

2. Press Ctr+E and goto Video Effects > Colors and Press Negate colors
3. Enjoy the Stream in Dark Mode
   Optionally: Use Crop (in the window of step 2) to get the (now white) Top Bar removed

@wheat prairie what do you think about a white top bar?

[jaunty creek]

the funniest thing ive read all day

[sterile swallow]

vlc not recognized

[quaint hedge]

then use mpv and ffmpeg to invert the colors

[bronze fable]

low key just istalled a chrome extension to invert the whole window

[quaint hedge]

but isn't twitch then white mode?

[bronze fable]

full screen video output

[quaint hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/big-brain-markiplier-gif-14835823

[sterile swallow]

it also doesnt change the video itself :/

it only changes the site

[ripe onyx]

I thought t.tv/paperpowered was hosting whoever was actively developing? Think someone forgot to switch it over when kenny signed off

[sterile swallow]

voicy.network bruh

[quaint hedge]

The CSS Way:

    -webkit-filter: invert(100%);
    filter: invert(100%);

[sterile swallow]

pog

just gonna use that

i can finally see

[harsh oar]

jeez kneny didn't even host leaf

[neat karma]

__There Is No ETA__

Updates to Paper do not have any sort of estimate for when they release, ever. Any and all updates will arrive when they are ready, and the only thing to do is wait for them patiently along with everyone else.

ETA means 'Estimated Time of Arrival'!

[somber canyon]

thats kinda bad if the client doesn't have any sort of throttling cause then you can just nuke a server with packets

[ripe onyx]

wee DOS attacks!

[silent sphinx]

direct links are in the launcher directly too ;)

[little trench]

https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/download/server

[wintry merlin]

ty

[pallid helm]

https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/compare/3a0b9487d462...c515eb9a0857#diff-9d59683564b11d7f9a711c5a22c23cf0f960ca07889526a594608bff3bc2075dR84-R89 was world != null unintentionally flipped here?

[wintry merlin]

yeah that is wrong

fixing

[wintry merlin]

https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/commit/a27b508deac19ed3b5eaff36a56c70122e2b16fd#diff-baea3ab3b08b8cfcddf0a16d9d2c1feb3eeb7ee3bf363ed301fbd2e71dcea09dR56

[whole totem]

❤️

[harsh oar]

When great thinkers think about problems, they start to see patterns. They look at the problem of people sending each other word-processor files, and then they look at the problem of people sending each other spreadsheets, and they realize that there’s a general pattern: sending files. That’s one level of abstraction already. Then they go up one more level: people send files, but web browsers also “send” requests for web pages. And when you think about it, calling a method on an object is like sending a message to an object! It’s the same thing again! Those are all sending operations, so our clever thinker invents a new, higher, broader abstraction called messaging, but now it’s getting really vague and nobody really knows what they’re talking about any more. Blah.

[ripe onyx]

for the first really https://f.u11.io/U6MCog

[solar gull]

git log --oneline

unsure how it'll handle the big ass commit message, but... maybe!

[ripe onyx]

@wheat prairie I mean it did indeed triple it https://f.u11.io/ulkCTf

[whole totem]

lol

[solar gull]

doesnt work

[harsh oar]

The oneline flag it to make it only show the first line

He only has one line 😄

[valid python]

I've set it to autohost people but i guess that didn't work for some reason
Now it's hosting leaf

[ripe onyx]

mm is that powerlevel10k?

nice

Still can jump to timestamp

&t=TIME in seconds iirc

[keen frost]

they added a heatmap thing as well recently as well

not sure exactly what it actually represents, but generally seems to show semi-relevant parts higher

[hidden torrent]

It’s represent the amount of people continually watching iirc

[valid python]

Shows viewer retention

[hidden torrent]

Like you know some people skip certain part of video

[ripe onyx]

@wheat prairie there seems to be at least 2 videos out, don't know if they're the same dupe or not

just mute in obs

[onyx kindle]

I heard it, spam click item into chest when friend relogs

[heavy rose]

👀

[onyx kindle]

boat chesttttt, okay

[hidden torrent]

Yeah someone already reported

[onyx kindle]

it seems like there is a bit of broken code with the boat chest itself, no?

[green forge]

could you kick the player who is in that inventory when the other logs out?

[harsh oar]

The code is trying to get them out of the inventory already

That's the fix but that's what it's already doing in like 3 places

[tribal osprey]

goodmorning @wheat prairie hunny

xx

oh yessssss

ok going back to bed

[heavy rose]

what's the point of chat signing anyway, do players even care about that?

or mojang simple were like ‘oh we want to play with cryptography so let us revamp everything adding a semi-useless feature’?

[last marsh]

its for chat moderation

proof that the player sent the message

[heavy rose]

mojang or server moderation?

simply braw or brew :D

[valid python]

Machine either your internet or your mic is a bit fucked up lol

[wintry merlin]

prob internet

[valid python]

not yet though, only in the future

[heavy rose]

I can't be toxic on hypixel anymore??? wow that's outraging !! >:(

[valid python]

basically it is preparation for stuff like that, because in the future mojang will likely be required by local laws to do some sort of chat "moderation", as in potentially block certain people from chatting

The thing is

There are regulations already in place that would require server owners to do certain things, which server owners basically never do. So now Mojang more or less has to do something, otherwise they will be targeted for hefty regulations (even though they don't run the servers directly, but explain that to lawmakers)

[feral crane]

It's also generally a good thing

[valid python]

Another example of this would be GDPR, server owners usually don't follow it, so presumably Mojang will has to do something about it

[ripe plover]

Meaybe the chat moderation featrue is also a requirement of Microsoft for its games using xbox accounts...

[harsh oar]

Paper doesn't have a 1.19 build yet so... what?

Might want to ask them then 😄

[valid python]

why are you pinging me?

if you use Spigot ask Spigot

[heavy rose]

I have a wish for a long time that servers could send something like ‘mini datapacks’ that have translations and such, so client can just apply them instantly without showing loading screen and such. that'd allow plugin devs to not handle translations by themselves, like with packet hacking plugins etc, without compromising on user experience. but mojang has to change things in client too to handle this, like there are mods like Language reload where you can reload lang files without reloading all resources

[rapid wagon]

amaranth who is the we?

what was this project?

[tribal osprey]

Amaranth showing his age

:p

A few hours ago 👋

leaf

[rapid wagon]

did you leave craftbukkit before spigot took over maintaining it?

[tribal osprey]

haha

[rapid wagon]

you were the sole maintainer?

so who helps md5 now with the patches?

or is md5 a one man show

[tribal osprey]

And it's a poor show

and the ratings are bad

[scenic pond]

But if spigot doesn't exist, neither does Paper.

[tribal osprey]

Paper need to use the Open Collective balance to hire an outsider to focus on and finish Hangar :p

[scenic pond]

Ohh makes sense

What about Sponge? Wasn't that a thing too before?

I didn't know much about it

[rapid wagon]

sponge has no relation to (craft)bukkit

[vocal wraith]

there is glowstone and minestorm

[rapid wagon]

the issue with sponge imo is that they dont have as big of a community

Glowstone's simplicity affords it a performance improvement over CraftBukkit and other servers.

[ripe plover]

How do you see Fabric as future server platform?

[rapid wagon]

what do you mean by a saner setup?

you werent supposed to say that

yeah, without registries for blocks rather than an enum, you cant really fix that

[scenic pond]

What about if a server just hacked their protocol for future versions like hypixel with 1.8 then they never have to update?

[rapid wagon]

they have so many developers they can afford to maintain that

[harsh oar]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composition_over_inheritance

[rapid wagon]

The problem with going from scratch tho is that there is a big difference between recreating from scratch a proxy and a server

[scenic pond]

For NMS I never understood the deal with why they were obfuscated and then moved back to Mojang Mappings later on.

[harsh oar]

You aren't recreating the whole server though, just the CraftBukkit part 😄

[vocal wraith]

But when using the paper chat api, I cannot maintain spigot support

[rapid wagon]

Yes but adventure is just one example, now think about how many systems you will have to recreate tho

[vocal wraith]

yes because of that we need hangar

[rapid wagon]

(worldgen, pathfinding, etc...)

Adventure was doable imo since it was not that complex of a system realistically

but recreating something without a spec, that has insane complexity like worldgen seems unmaintainable

[scenic pond]

Isn't it kinda the same thing tho? You left spigot just to use its fork for making paper's server jar anyways?

[rapid wagon]

is there somewhere I can read about these sponge core api concepts that you're talking about?

[scenic pond]

https://www.spongepowered.org/

[harsh oar]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entity_component_system

[scenic pond]

How do you guys learn all these new concepts and all? I'm really interested in all of these

[digital kite]

Do stuff

break stuff

fix stuff

and cry a lil

[rapid wagon]

basically the owen path ;P

[feral crane]

I am not in VC, but did @harsh oar volunteer to rearchitecht MC to use an ECS?!

[harsh oar]

Remember when Grum was working on an ECS under the Sponge org?

That was meant to be used in MC

[feral crane]

I know

I was so excited when I saw that repo

[rapid wagon]

is it in sponge now?

[harsh oar]

Dang did they delete it?

No, the goal at the time was for the Sponge API to pretend the server was using an ECS model and then just shim it all to the actual server internals

[feral crane]

It was just a fork of Artemis, wasn't it?

[harsh oar]

So you wouldn't be able to add or remove vanilla components from things because that's not how the server worked but you would be able to add new custom components and write new systems that only ran on entities with certain components

Instead they scaled that back to the Data API

I don't remember, it was a fork of something

[feral crane]

I wonder if it is in scope for us to do something like that

Post hard fork of course

But if you don't have systems, part of the benefit goes away

[harsh oar]

You can have systems, you just can't remove vanilla ones

Modern ECS designs have something called archetypes as an optimization, it's kind of like traditional entities where they have a fixed list of components

I don't remember if you can remove any but I know you can still add some

So all the vanilla stuff would be archetypes

Then every tick you can have plugin systems run and plugins can still add and remove non-vanilla components

And all the vanilla data would be exposed as components, even if when they're on a vanilla entity they're just a proxy

That was the plan for Sponge

[ripe plover]

Would it make easier applying all paper patches if there were a graph showing which patches affect the same files as other patches?

[harsh oar]

And then Grum would use what they came up with for the API as inspiration for how to migrate the server to actually using ECS

[harsh oar]

It would have to track imports too

Just because patch 500 doesn't touch the same files as patch 100 doesn't mean you can do 500 without 100, 500 might use some method that 100 added

[ripe plover]

I know, but it would be a starting point for distributing the workload.

[harsh oar]

If you tracked imports too, sure

[ripe plover]

But tracking also imports seems feasable

[harsh oar]

Otherwise it wouldn't be useful

[rapid wagon]

its not spigot

its md5

[valid python]

where's the difference

[old fjord]

when is this gonna finish? 😩

[rancid sentinel]

roughly seven

[old fjord]

7pm?

in which time zone

[rancid sentinel]

yes

was joking, there is no eta

[neat karma]

__There Is No ETA__

Updates to Paper do not have any sort of estimate for when they release, ever. Any and all updates will arrive when they are ready, and the only thing to do is wait for them patiently along with everyone else.

ETA means 'Estimated Time of Arrival'!

__There Is No ETA__

Updates to Paper do not have any sort of estimate for when they release, ever. Any and all updates will arrive when they are ready, and the only thing to do is wait for them patiently along with everyone else.

ETA means 'Estimated Time of Arrival'!

[harsh oar]

7/12/23

[tribal osprey]

I thought it was 7/12/24?

I'm a year off

[rancid sentinel]

exactly, I never specified what kind of seven ;)

[harsh oar]

The fun part is what the hell date did I just write? 😄

[tribal osprey]

[old fjord]

aw...maan

pls be serious

[tribal osprey]

srs #the-silents message

[harsh oar]

Ask again after 1.19.1 comes out

I mean, not really, don't ask, but don't expect it until then

[old fjord]

bruh

alr

[harsh oar]

Even if there is a build before then I'd rather ViaVersion with a 1.18 server

[rancid sentinel]

@stiff pulsar end generation had a massive change, that's why it was dropped

the mojira for that is still open

so it's probably still a bug

[tribal osprey]

god discord streams so trash

5FPS moment

i'll ready my wallet

PlEaSe DoNt

• No streamer ever

very professional

the most handsome and professional streamer

🥺

[heavy rose]

this is sOuRcE qUaLiTy !!

[tribal osprey]

lmao

kenny runs a computer from 1992

[scenic pond]

You earn a lot of $ for coding in Paper. It's literally a dream job

[valid python]

lol

you get like

[tribal osprey]

I wouldn't say they earn a lot of $ at all lol

[valid python]

100$ a month at most

[tribal osprey]

90% of the work they do is unpaid too

it's just when there's a new major version they make a little money

[scenic pond]

And from the stream donations?

[tribal osprey]

As above

[rancid sentinel]

most of the work isn't streamed

[valid python]

plus thats once every 6 months

you can't live from that

[tribal osprey]

Yeah

BUT you're welcome to contribute at https://opencollective.com/papermc

:D

Whos going to be the 100th :o
https://i.imgur.com/eJDlecd.png

[valid python]

the OC is mostly for infrastructure cost though, if you want to support the actual people behind Paper you need to sponsor them directly

https://github.com/orgs/PaperMC/people

[tribal osprey]

is it marcel @stiff pulsar?

Tell him I said hello

[valid python]

oh god

why would you do that

I literally skip through half the songs

[ocean hamlet]

YOU SCARED ME

[rancid sentinel]

got a beautiful pr for you kenny

praying it doesn't conflict

[heavy rose]

boo 👻

[ocean hamlet]

AH!

[rancid sentinel]

why is this still going

gh actions moment

it's been setting up a jdk for 2 and a half hours

[heavy rose]

hey listen. I also get confused when installing jdk/jre... that's okei. don't be hard on it, I bet it's trying really hard

[feral crane]

Poor apatch

[rancid sentinel]

[valid python]

good @tribal osprey ??

[tribal osprey]

PERFECT!!

[rancid sentinel]

@valid python those are out of stock

[rancid sentinel]

we love the gradle demons

[woven cedar]

I think by the end of the stream kenny will die from water poisoning at this rate

[rancid sentinel]

these duping video youtubers are so stupid

like, why publish it when paper isn't even out yet

would get patched before it's released

[harsh oar]

There is a race to who can get the first dupe

That's the video mentioned what time of day they claim to have discovered it too

[valid python]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/stash/projects/SPIGOT/repos/spigot/commits/fa893f0bb7c6e1cbd28315f77da5c37a67afbe98

[rancid sentinel]

we love md

pretty sure it was 300 at the time?

[neat karma]

__There Is No ETA__

Updates to Paper do not have any sort of estimate for when they release, ever. Any and all updates will arrive when they are ready, and the only thing to do is wait for them patiently along with everyone else.

ETA means 'Estimated Time of Arrival'!

Don't ask to ask.

If you have a question, please just ask it. Don't look for staff or topic experts. Don't ask to ask or ask if people are awake or available. Just ask the question to the channel straight out, and wait patiently for a reply.

[tender forge]

I was like, why's paper and kenny streaming with like 20 people. then realized the update dropped without me realizing

[rare tree]

ahahah

[rustic hound]

Genuinelly curious about how the update process differs from spigot? I had noticed spigot basically had a build out right away and I was wondering why it is they were able to shove something out so fast. I'm assuming this is probably paper has a lot of optimization which is why it takes a bit longer. (Btw this isn't me asking the paper community to rush I love the work everyone does here)

[rancid sentinel]

spigot had weeks

they can start working during updates

(see #paper-dev )

[rustic hound]

Interesting thank you so much.

[neat karma]

Don't ask to ask.

If you have a question, please just ask it. Don't look for staff or topic experts. Don't ask to ask or ask if people are awake or available. Just ask the question to the channel straight out, and wait patiently for a reply.

[simple shell]

Guys you dont sleep? omg

[rancid sentinel]

other people worked on paper during the night ;)

[simple shell]

What at team!

you sould see the Optifine ds, they are animals xd they atack each others

[old fjord]

well...how much work is left

[digital kite]

as much as is needed to get to the point we can release

[feral crane]

I walk in, I see DFU/datafixer, I run

Glhf Kenny

[rancid sentinel]

dataconverter doesn't touch existing stuff that much

so it's relatively fine

[feral crane]

Still not something you like to touch, cause the consequences are big

I'll drive home now, have one meeting left but then I can help out or work on hangar stuff

[rancid sentinel]

yeah true

gigantic patch is a pain too

[true moss]

h

[woven cedar]

Good night its now 4:30 am and i hev work

[rancid sentinel]

gn!

[maiden inlet]

I say we remove any features that are causing issues

[rancid sentinel]

we can't just remove the entire bukkit api!

[maiden inlet]

Ehh

Debatable

It’s like roulette for plug-in creators then

Yknow a little bit of excitement

[atomic linden]

modernising the API by nuking it

[mossy nest]

the api is so nuked, its not even funny anymore xD Ender Dragon is also kaputt 🙂 1.19 spigot btw

[maiden inlet]

see, this woman knows what she's talking about: we gotta say "fuck you" to all plugin developers. "oh the anvil use event? well it had a small change by Mojang so we are just going to remove it entirely."

also my up arow key broke

[rancid sentinel]

make this guy core team

seems to have smart ideas

[atomic linden]

"what's brigadier"

[maiden inlet]

command completion is overrated

[maiden inlet]

yeah just don't question why I'm invoking "C:\ProgramFiles\Google\Chrome\Application\chrome.exe https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ"

also it wouldn't be ported to linux or mac b/c those people are cool

[maiden inlet]

Is progress being made? I can’t join Vc rn

[feral crane]

no we just getting drink, no progress being made whatsoever

[rancid sentinel]

Can someone send me the 1.19 waterfall

[feral crane]

https://api.papermc.io/v2/projects/waterfall/versions/1.19/builds/492/downloads/waterfall-1.19-492.jar

@rancid sentinel

[maiden inlet]

Wadher break

[smoky temple]

ehehehe

[molten sage]

no they are actively not making progress

[smoky temple]

so they're developing?

i see no problem here

[maiden inlet]

Lmfao

[tropic coyote]

https://clips.twitch.tv/DeadTenderTrollCharlietheUnicorn-1FcEbw2VvRHDQefh

🤣

[old fjord]

hi

[wintry merlin]

@stiff pulsar

👋

[old fjord]

any eta now?

[neat karma]

__There Is No ETA__

Updates to Paper do not have any sort of estimate for when they release, ever. Any and all updates will arrive when they are ready, and the only thing to do is wait for them patiently along with everyone else.

ETA means 'Estimated Time of Arrival'!

[old fjord]

@wintry merlin

[rancid sentinel]

no

[old fjord]

whats ur estimate @wintry merlin

[rancid sentinel]

there isn't one

@feral crane gradle isn't updated in the readme ;)

[old fjord]

@rancid sentinel how mant files left to patch?

[valid python]

!kick @old fjord No ETA means no ETA

[ionic wadi]

:raised_hands: Kicked MRSheep1647#0001 (No ETA means no ETA) [1 total infraction] -- aurora#4484.

[cursive bear]

Is there some reason to make "development sounds" channel name in German? xD

[valid python]

most of the people streaming in here are german

[cursive bear]

ok

[rancid sentinel]

you have one minute to snipe the 7kth commit

[feral crane]

https://i.imgur.com/91je4HK.png

[rancid sentinel]

dear god

[feral crane]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rinderkennzeichnungs-_und_Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz

[dry ginkgo]

this is insane

[quaint hedge]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4e/De-Rinderkennzeichnungs-_und_Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz.ogg

[feral crane]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taumatawhakatangi­hangakoauauotamatea­turipukakapikimaunga­horonukupokaiwhen­uakitanatahu

[ripe plover]

Donaudampfschifffahrtsgesellschaftskapitänsmützenputzmittelproduktionsmaschine

[high junco]

xd

[cursive bear]

Donaudampfschifffahrtsgesellschaft captain's hat cleaning agent production machine?

[tribal osprey]

@exotic valley what mic do you use?

[exotic valley]

Shure MV7

[tribal osprey]

ty

sounds good

[exotic valley]

ty

[valid python]

Shure very good

very expensive :(

[tribal osprey]

Ohh

I thought that was a pun

"Sure, very good"

[cursive bear]

google translate

[stone escarp]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/895094156031041536.gif?size=48

[hardy goblet]

What happens when a homeless person dies with debt and he has no close family members since they died

[rancid sentinel]

the banks explode

[molten sage]

@tribal osprey come use my mic x

[tribal osprey]

[feral crane]

https://i.imgur.com/eDpLpd9.png

[wild wedge]

so true

get yourself an sm7b like brocc and i x

[molten sage]

treat yourself camm

[tribal osprey]

brocc does always sound hot

[feral crane]

so expensive tho

[tribal osprey]

but that's just because he's brocc

[wild wedge]

tax writeoff mini

you should know this

[feral crane]

those are like 300 bucks aren't they?

[molten sage]

😳

[tribal osprey]

$700AUD

[wild wedge]

i think i paid 380 yeah

[tribal osprey]

sheeeesh

[feral crane]

still, even with write off, lol

[tribal osprey]

ez worth

[wild wedge]

420 even

[feral crane]

I dont own a company

[molten sage]

yeah but it doesn't get any better than this

[wild wedge]

i can do tax writeoffs here without a company

[molten sage]

so its saving me money really

i no longer have the constant desire to upgrade

[feral crane]

yes I can too, just not as effective

[tribal osprey]

perhaps I could get a sample of the mic

with hearing michael

[wild wedge]

fuck i didn't write it off my taxes though

completely forgot

[tribal osprey]

bad michael

[feral crane]

I need to find a way to write off my piano

[green surge]

Do you use Classic Shell for this?

[feral crane]

but idk what I would put it under 😂

[feral crane]

StartAllBack

[wild wedge]

startallback is a must have

windows 11 taskbar bad

the classic one is based since you can make it tiny

[exotic valley]

MV7 is the cheaper brother to the sm7b

sounds just as good

[feral crane]

I got a tbone, lol

cant go cheaper than that

[molten sage]

mv7 isn't as pretty looking though

(very vital part of a microphone)

[wintry merlin]

@stiff pulsar can I push a change re-introducing a removed patch? or how un-committed is your workspace rn

[wild wedge]

based

and now you have a proper mic arm

[stiff pulsar]

I'll push now

[molten sage]

this under monitor mic arm is fr the best thing i've ever done

[graceful cargo]

@molten sage

[molten sage]

please stop talking / mentioning me

[stiff pulsar]

otherwise I'm just fixing more errors and issues, so adding new should be fine-ish

[molten sage]

my mentions are reserved for people that dont want colours in logging

funny