I know
#the-silents
wise crater
austere island
Which plugin?
zinc summit
CMI
austere island
The world thing.
zinc summit
oh
dim turret
EWG, just generate the entire world and delete the plugin after
somber belfry
EpicWorldGenerator
austere island
Oh.
short wave
yeah lol christian that's what I did
zinc summit
i thought tha tplugin was good,or was it similar
austere island
Any horror stories about AntiBotDeluxe?
short wave
can't say I've heard of that one, I don't do resources reviews a ton, just reports when they're doing dumb shit
wise crater
Lol, he links vault through his own site http://www.zrips.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Vault-1.7.3.jar
zinc summit
illegal?
wise crater
Have we nitpicked at his naming of PAper?
glacial aspen
whomst
granite mortar
highest rated plugin on spigotmc - disables the plugin if you change the 'author' in the plugin.yml in the jar
dim turret
but why?!
granite mortar
caus he's afraid that other people take credit for his work
glacial aspen
you mean he's afraid he can't take credit for others' work? :>
granite mortar
nah he did actually implement it all by himself as far as I know
the plugin tries to emulate a gamemode we had on a server network I used to work for
had quite a bit of contact with him
glacial aspen
@little pawn pacman -S?
granite mortar
I showed him that this 'protection' wasn't actually a protection by chaning the bytecode using ASM
glacial aspen
bombardy and the adventure of why docker is extremely nice
dim turret
little pawn
should I be running MariaDB in docker?
wise crater
meh
little pawn
isn't connecting to that gonna be a pain though since docker uses its own network
glacial aspen
docker generally helps with issues you have when testing where you can just nuke the data if it breaks
harsh oar
I do, easy way to spin up a clean setup for integration testing
glacial aspen
just bind the port to the host 
i.e. use the -p flag or port directive in docker compose
fairly sure pacman -R --purge or smth works
check manual
dim turret
google?
wise crater
Arch has a great manual
glossy bramble
ncdu
wise crater
Every goddamn idiot keep coming here asking for 1.8 support for tacospigot
austere island
Gigantic spike of reverts.
wise crater
Yes.
granite mortar
ETA WHEN??!!!!!
last plover
Fixed* *May work, may not
short wave
needs more tacos
glacial aspen
i had tacos today!
last plover
๐ฎ
wise crater
I forgot to make dinner 
molten sage
fair prawn
wise crater
Sure, i guess.
fair prawn
midnight dinner
eternal belfry
any stream?
eternal belfry
wewt :3
burnt nest
wise crater
Yo Aikar is still supporting 1.12
austere island
I'ma just build that DB in my mind.
little pawn
MariaDB [punishments]> describe players;
+-------+------------+------+-----+---------+----------------+
| Field | Type | Null | Key | Default | Extra |
+-------+------------+------+-----+---------+----------------+
| id | int(11) | NO | PRI | NULL | auto_increment |
| uuid | binary(16) | NO | | NULL | |
+-------+------------+------+-----+---------+----------------+
MariaDB [punishments]> describe punishments;
+-------------+--------------+------+-----+---------+----------------+
| Field | Type | Null | Key | Default | Extra |
+-------------+--------------+------+-----+---------+----------------+
| id | int(11) | NO | PRI | NULL | auto_increment |
| player_id | int(11) | NO | MUL | NULL | |
| executor_id | int(11) | NO | MUL | NULL | |
| time | datetime(6) | NO | | NULL | |
| until | datetime(6) | YES | | NULL | |
| reason | varchar(255) | NO | | NULL | |
| type | int(11) | NO | | NULL | |
| expired | tinyint(1) | NO | | 0 | |
+-------------+--------------+------+-----+---------+----------------+
MariaDB [punishments]> describe history;
+-----------+-------------+------+-----+---------+----------------+
| Field | Type | Null | Key | Default | Extra |
+-----------+-------------+------+-----+---------+----------------+
| id | int(11) | NO | PRI | NULL | auto_increment |
| player_id | int(11) | NO | MUL | NULL | |
| name | varchar(16) | NO | | NULL | |
| ip | varchar(39) | NO | | NULL | |
| time | datetime(6) | NO | | NULL | |
+-----------+-------------+------+-----+---------+----------------+
should probably merge the players and history in to one
graceful widget
glacial aspen
can we just not move new accounts in here pls
austere island
GAMING.
gentle token
max quality nvidia h264 is good
little pawn
which would look something like:
MariaDB [punishments]> describe players;
+-----------+-------------+------+-----+---------+----------------+
| Field | Type | Null | Key | Default | Extra |
+-----------+-------------+------+-----+---------+----------------+
| id | int(11) | NO | PRI | NULL | auto_increment |
| uuid | binary(16) | NO | | NULL | |
| name | varchar(16) | NO | | NULL | |
| ip | varchar(39) | NO | | NULL | |
| time | datetime(6) | NO | | NULL | |
+-----------+-------------+------+-----+---------+----------------+
no impact on cpu :/
austere island
It still does, just less.
proven aspen
You should store ips as int unsigned
and then use INET_NTOA and INET_ATON to convert back and forth
saves a lot of space
granite mortar
uuid binary(16) shouldn't that be binary(128)?
granite mortar
alright
austere island
Glare can change it right?
short wave
he can swap the jar out manually yeah, didn't have access to the script though I think
manic patrol
Correct.
formal mulch
piglins don't run from soulfire and hoglins don't run from warped fungus on the test server
short wave
yeah
pretty sure that's because of minis patch that disables the REPLLENT behavior in Piglins
formal mulch
and I suppose the similar behaviour from hoglins is disabled by the same patch
glacial aspen
yep
limpid sequoia
may i be dragged
somber belfry
limpid sequoia
sturdy locust
pog
gentle token
who did dis to the chickens?
glacial aspen
piglins & hoglins
fair prawn
poglins
glacial aspen
https://spark.lucko.me/#iGS7pKYRet here's the poglin & higlin spark from mini
fair prawn
while (tooFast) {
Thread.sleep(1)
tooFast = checkTooFast();
}
I'm heading off for tonight
night o/
last plover
o/
short wave
๐
little pawn
https://ci.prevarinite.com/ how does my logo look guys?
should probably change material colour to make it contrast more
rancid sentinel
not amazing, but good enough logo
eternal belfry
oh yeah, when I'm typing away on chrome and League yanks back focus becayse there's 10 seconds until match start
little pawn
cerulean berry
aikar needs to give leaf one of those 5 hours. leaf always sound so tired lol
somber canyon
^ also true
frigid elbow
Howโs the debugging going?
eternal belfry
Leaf sounds liek Trent from Daria
dusk igloo
lmfao
manic patrol
His voice is pretty soothing.
manic patrol
It isn't required.
cerulean berry
aikar sounds like he's always hyped up, talking real fast
manic patrol
For a single line else it can go without it.
somber canyon
okaj ๐
cerulean berry
listening to them talk to each other is strange lmao ^_^
somber canyon
aaah its the same as the if with a single thing inside it
eternal belfry
Aikar pendulums between really southern and yass queen :P
cerulean berry
lmfao
austere island
Yeet.
long stone
@short wave the proper way to spell it :-)
short wave
long stone
so... basically everyone who would view the website anyway?
wild wedge
@stiff pulsar kenny that is fucking terrifying why is this a viaversion thing
or viabackwards idk
zinc summit
yumm
cedar belfry
ooo the REAL flying squid and not the fake one
somber canyon
i thinks based by biome
cedar belfry
xD
feral crane
I mean, not much bigger than actual bees
wild wedge
could've literally used bats
zinc summit
bats are parrots
wild wedge
feral crane
gotta punish ppl running outdated clients ๐คท
zinc summit
flying squids do be kinda ๐ณ
little pawn
molten sage
let the adults talk bro
little pawn
I don't think they quite thought about that image at the bottom lol
zinc summit
oh no
glacial aspen
https://owo.whats-th.is/A2MEC1v.png repelling :)
short wave
:O!!!
summer wadi
gg
little pawn
https://img.bardy.me/oh-no-gimp.png vs https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/77/Flag_of_Germany_(1935โ1945).svg
short wave
please stop spamming that
glacial aspen
seems the original just runs checks without an exit condition lmao
little pawn
only posted it twice
short wave
you've posted a link to the same gimp thing like 4 times now
molten sage
it's really not that bad lol
glacial aspen
molten sage
optional 
little pawn
true @molten sage
glacial aspen
if it works it works amirite boys
molten sage
true @molten sage
short wave
little pawn
pearl stratus
https://i.imgur.com/FfQ2Myg.png hey brocc and jroy, pay up
little pawn
lol
pearl stratus
https://github.com/sponsors/EngineHub we're on GH sponsors now if you'd like brocc
:^)
pearl stratus
โค๏ธ
pearl stratus
it's ok, it was a group effort
glacial aspen
"""fixed"""
long stone
pearl stratus
i've been kicking him for his shit for weeks now
glacial aspen
gave it a max limit of iterations
pearl stratus
:^)
wheat prairie
what'd viper do
glacial aspen
32k should be FAR enough
long stone
short wave
what a way to go out
wheat prairie
furry deleted
wild wedge
and nothing of value has been lost
molten sage
wild wedge
we still have leaf as furry it'sok
somber canyon
๐ฆ
wild wedge
but leaf is useful
long stone
<3 @molten sage
molten sage
thin token
wait did he really get the hammer?
cedar belfry
long stone
yes
cedar belfry
omega yikes
rancid sentinel
damn
cedar belfry
big F furry down
thin token
lmao
molten sage
thin token
we'll have no one to read the bible to us now
somber canyon
^ aah you dropped it in twitch chat xD
molten sage
yee
glacial aspen
https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/pull/3640 workaround for the piglin/hoglin issue
frigid elbow
How are the debugs going?
wild wedge
test server should be building off of papermc's ver/1.16 branch now, not gonna bother with individual contributor branches at 1am
wild wedge
oh and yeah it runs alright
molten sage
dafuq
cedar belfry
michael what was the ip again?
molten sage
cedar belfry
ty ban for advertise
molten sage
cedar belfry
o there ty
wild wedge
though if some contributor does want to throw their branch on, let me or glare know
somber canyon
lol
molten sage
lol leaf
glacial aspen
would be cool to see if i should reduce the iteration count with my change
short wave
leaf optimization god, he can tell u the magic number probably
summer wadi
42
glacial aspen
leaf pls gib magic #
molten sage
eeeeeeee
glacial aspen
yeah ik abt that, but haven't looked much into it lol
lean cobalt
Aikar smells like poop
somber canyon
i think we also seen it happen more frequently when the server was started for some time right?
short wave
nighty night
somber canyon
gn ๐
brisk zephyr
granite mortar
gn
last marsh
does anyone know why /speed is fucked on spigot atm
it isn't on paper which is surprising
only walk speed though apparently lol
last marsh
lol yeah i mean you're not wrong
dusk igloo
last marsh
time to just tell people in the ess support channel to switch to paper for working speed
graceful widget
fast token
mvtp world_nether
pearl stratus
https://www.twitch.tv/aikaradora
molten sage
aikar not using his own flags wtf wtf
limpid sequoia
lol
last marsh
He's not running a prod server lol
molten sage
I'm joking 
harsh oar
rancid sentinel
hmmm
last marsh
A small price to pay for wizjany pings
somber canyon
aikar your going for a amd system or a intel system?
wise crater
Dual
pearl stratus
smh
graceful cargo
โค๏ธ
tribal osprey
@last marsh what doesn't work about speed on Spigot?
I am 7 (Spigot) builds behind, but it does seem to be working.
somber canyon
will they remove streams if they want to in 1.16.x versions or will that have to wait for 1.17, if they ever remove then
wise crater
Our lord and saviour is getting confused by the big M
somber canyon
๐ฆ classes are fucked ๐ฆ
limpid sequoia
yeet
last marsh
random question if anyone happens to know off-hand, but does Server::getWorlds return a list in a specific order (like is it ensured that index 0 is the overworld, etc?)
pearl stratus
nondeterministic but yes
technically index 0 is the main world
which may or may not be the standard overworld...
last marsh
figured as much
i was just wondering if it made sense to default to the first world in that list for something
to get main world
thanks
pearl stratus
yea like that'll be the one players first log in to normally etc
there's just no guarantee it's an overworld
last marsh
ah ok yeah it doesnt have to be an overworld, im not assuming anything
ideally the one players join in yeah
i think it'll be good enough for what i want to use it for
somber canyon
๐คฃ imagine people using this in production already xD and getting fucked by that xD
last marsh
(basically trying to get center location of a world, and world 0 would be the last ditch effort to get a world)
molten sage
anyone trying to use this in prod deserves it tbh
short wave
no kidding
last marsh
lol are people already building paper and deploying to prod
last marsh
damn
pearl stratus
somber canyon
why 60 servers are 
rancid sentinel
couldn't that be spigot, or is it filtered to paper?
somber canyon
wiz is that paper filtered or is that spigot too
pearl stratus
that's paper
https://i.imgur.com/NfLFA5s.png here's worldedit
more 1.16 servers than 1.14 servers already
jfc
rancid sentinel
im on the list
molten sage
last marsh
spigot ppl
wise crater
How many craftbukkot
graceful cargo
i mean
is that a bad thing
which is the worst
1.14.4 or the current 1.16 build
pearl stratus
here's the real scary part https://i.imgur.com/px8MWEW.png
of the 8685 people running WE on 1.16.1, only 2115 are using the 1.16.1 beta build
molten sage
amazing
somber canyon
is that beta 1 the latest ?
rancid sentinel
isnt that build new? didnt see in two days ago
slow gulch
any progress in the last hour?
short wave
found some decompiler errors
olive glacier
aikar is making moves
somber canyon
^ there looking in piglins now
short wave
causing the piglin lag from the goal
molten sage
poglins*
short wave
or rather, behavior
cerulean berry
chunk stutter is a known bug, aikar https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC-162253
rancid sentinel
"my fps is dropping super low", that's just 1.16
glacial aspen
tell aikar to check contrib channel, i pushed a proper fix which will prolly have to be redone cause i was trying to gain understanding and make it work
now good night for real as the poglins do work proeprly now
molten sage
proxi go to sleep my child
somber canyon
have a good sleep ๐
cerulean berry
the spikes arent your hardware, aikar. even gtx 2080s get those spikes. its a mojang bug (linked above)
rancid sentinel
I've seen many people complaining about awful fps in 1.16 too
olive glacier
fps is better for me in 1.16
rancid sentinel
ye for some people its better, for some people its like 75% drop
when compared to 1.15
wise crater
short wave
if you have really bad FPS make sure your graphics are not set to fabulous
rancid sentinel
I cant get over 100 fps on 1.16, 1.15 goes ~200 and 1.14 ~300
cerulean berry
i get better fps in 1.16 on my craptop (onboard intel) now hitting 60 fps, but on my dekstop (gtx 970) its dropped below 1000fps
rancid sentinel
oof I was playing with the settings, maybe I forgot that
short wave
it basically fixes the rendering priorities that have existed for a long time, where you can't see certain transparent blocks and particles through other stuff
but it does so using a shader so it's uh
cerulean berry
i have to hard cap my fps on my desktop at 60 otherwise it just skyrockets :3
rancid sentinel
nope mine's on fancy
Im literally getting 10 fps on a mostly void lobby
1.15 works just fine
olive glacier
is it because your 1.15 has optifine
rancid sentinel
nope
wise crater
@molten sage Sell the acc to Z for ยฃยฃ
harsh oar
Thinkofdeath fixed this in his client after reading a single paper I gave him on Order Independent Transparency and his worked with not much perf impact and on WebGL 1.x
Yet Mojang's seems to chew GPU cycles for the same thing
last plover
3900x is โค๏ธ
short wave
not surprised lol
ironically I think ToD was hired for Hypixel rendering
I men, HyTale
*mean
olive glacier
Hytale hype
cerulean berry
sounds like ya'll overcomplicating it, aikar/leaf... whats wrong with current way? super easy to do
misty path
but then it can't be automatically updated by Paper?
lyric hemlock
there are still "chests" and "enderchests" in the config
harsh oar
I think this was the paper I gave him, there are better ways to do it these days but this is fairly cheap and works on old hardware
And a couple hours later he had it going
molten sage
harsh oar
Someone should give a copy of that to Mojang, I guess ๐
iirc he implemented the single pass weighted average from that paper, not the dual depth peeling that is supposed to be the primary focus
cerulean berry
but then it can't be automatically updated by Paper?
yes it can..
if (worldName.endsWith"_nether")) {
hiddenBlocks = getList("anti-xray.hidden-blocks", Arrays.asList("some_nether_ore", "another_nether_ore"));
} else {
hiddenBlocks = getList("anti-xray.hidden-blocks", Arrays.asList("gold_ore", "iron_ore", "coal_ore", "lapis_ore"));
}
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
pretty sure "_nether" is added to all nether dims automatically
sorry, PC crashed lol ran out of ram
ok, so if "_nether" isnt a guarantee, then pass the environment to the config and do the same check based on that
harsh oar
Yeah, make the config defaults per dimension type instead, that's what they were wanting to do
cerulean berry
i'm just not a fan of hidden-blocks-overworld and hidden-blocks-nether etc
harsh oar
Going to have to have something like that
You can make it more dynamic by having it be an object with overworld and nether keys that are also objects with hidden-blocks arrays
But you're going to be listing those out somewhere
cerulean berry
thats so gross.. having overworld stuff in my nether section and nether stuff in my default/overworld sections... there are already per-world sections for this type of stuff.
lyric hemlock
I like the flexibility to set it per world. In some worlds I might not want any xray
rancid sentinel
hasnt that bug of player join event firing before the player is in the world been a thing for years?
short wave
yes
rancid sentinel
I remember having to delay any actions like ever
cerulean berry
https://hasteb.in/oweqitaj.yaml beats the hell out of what i've seen suggested https://hasteb.in/ayayiwoj.yaml
just need to pass the dim/environment to the config so it knows which to set as default
ok good ^_^
(โฏยฐโกยฐ๏ผโฏ๏ธต โปโโป
tribal osprey
โฌโโฌ ใ( ใ-ใใ)
cerulean berry
i just said how to do that, aikar
pass the dim/environment to the config so it knows which defaults to set
using the same if/else i pasted above
rancid sentinel
kinda random question but speaking of break block events, is there any method for properly calculating the drops of a certain block for a given tool?
cerulean berry
if you pass the environment to the config, aikar, then you can check it like this
if (environment == Environment.NETHER) {
hiddenBlocks = getList("anti-xray.hidden-blocks", Arrays.asList("some_nether_ore", "another_nether_ore"));
} else {
hiddenBlocks = getList("anti-xray.hidden-blocks", Arrays.asList("gold_ore", "iron_ore", "coal_ore", "lapis_ore"));
}
to get the first hastbin i posted above: https://hasteb.in/oweqitaj.yaml
digital kite
yes, but, no;
somber canyon
there have been 2 commits in spigot after the "add memory usage to Ticks Per Second command"
harsh oar
The event still doesn't though so to change it you have to cancel the break, lookup what the drops should be, make any changes you want to make to the drops, remove the block yourself, then spawn the drops
digital kite
bukkit has a method for it, but, not everything actually cares to do that
somber canyon
okaj then your good nothing new
rancid sentinel
I remember having issues with it not properly calculating fortune or something
harsh oar
Hopefully that bukkit method is using the server internal thing to look this up these days and not the hardcoded lists it used to use that didn't account for enchants and such
There is an API to look it up for a particular player holding a particular item, iirc
molten sage
uwu
digital kite
Yea, it calls into the right place, but, it's only relevant for blocks with loot tables
good enough for most things, etc
Don't break a chest, etc, with it, however
\o/
harsh oar
I thought they were all converted over to loot tables these days
Oh yeah, that makes sense
Tile entities you have to handle special
digital kite
some random chance stuff too, iirc
harsh oar
Or at least just containers
digital kite
They got most stuff, but, there was some areas where it kinda lacked
rancid sentinel
are the chains crackling Im hearing from the stream or am I crazy
river robin
the background music for some of the nether biomes does have that sort of vague clicking noise yes
rancid sentinel
can't you /locate?
pulsar solstice
yes the biomes are so cool
rancid sentinel
lmao
cerulean berry
i'll just leave this here ๐ https://hasteb.in/ozohafet.java
pearl stratus
Save New Duplicate & Edit Just Text my favorite paper settings
rancid sentinel
how did that not die
dim turret
cya guys ๐
rancid sentinel
1.16 spigot is literally dying from a single dude with an elytra and a few rockets
tribal osprey
first chunk gen?
feral crane
Yeah you can't break a paper server with flying on an elytra, lol
rancid sentinel
rushing the 1.16 update was probably the worst decision i've ever done lmao
digital kite
only 14?
cerulean berry
one good thing comes from rushing into the updates before paper is ready. its a swift reminder why you upgraded from spigot and use paper instead ๐
short wave
info here
he was playing around with raising the depth and it seemed to help things which makes sense
minecraft is so nested
river robin
there's more changes pending for making final actually mean final at runtime (depending on the usecase)
wheat prairie
junior prism
probably aik popping another 5 hour energy
harsh oar
Down with ๐ฎ, eat more ๐ฏ
slow gulch
Down with ๐ฎ, eat more ๐ฏ
digital kite
BANS ALL AROUND
river robin
role updated
molten sage
got a whole bunch of people violating the paper eula ova here ๐
junior prism
double corn shell ๐
tribal osprey
@river robin do you prefer soft or hard taco's?
last plover
street tacos for lyfe
wheat prairie
do you like the fact that all tacos are trash z
river robin
the taco thing was literally a meme we made up in IRC like ... idk probably 7 years ago now
dont fight the meme
molten sage
tribal osprey
That's a good way to avoid answering a question
digital kite
Not made tacos in 2 years, because living with a muslim
river robin
oh soft is better
wheat prairie
๐ฎ โ ๐ฏ โ
molten sage
hard tacos aren't even tacos
digital kite
Might have to make some soon
molten sage
they're sinful
river robin
its not even in tthe same world
tribal osprey
wdym cat?
digital kite
my flatmates muslim, so, I don't wanna start filling up the fridge with haram
cerulean berry
best tacos are breakfast tacos
short wave
I like pizza
last plover
โค๏ธ pizza
manic patrol
river robin
I made lasagna for dinner
it was good
you should just make tacos in a burrito shell and cross the streams
fuck the haters
short wave
taco topped pizza
last plover
f yeah
manic patrol
applesauce topped pizza
molten sage
nah
tribal osprey
molten sage
pizza topped tacos
cerulean berry
tribal osprey
Taylor prefers burritos
jagged beacon
hey
river robin
camm tryna start a civil war
tribal osprey
You're right, much higher.
fiery burrow
Olives
molten sage
๐ฎ
tribal osprey
last plover
are hotdogs sandwiches?
molten sage
am i a sandwich?
river robin
you would start an argument in the comments just like the one we had too
hidden torrent
man of culture I see
tribal osprey
river robin
tribal osprey
LOL
last plover
haha
molten sage
who is making all of these taylor food related gifs wtf
tribal osprey
actually dying
cerulean berry
nachos is a meal
last plover
street nachos will fuck you up
manic patrol
That reminds me of the old IOS game where you would flip the paper into the trashcan
river robin
cerulean berry
w.t.f.
tribal osprey
๐ณ
long stone
lmao Z
short wave
keen owl
tay wouldn't eat a used taco wtf
river robin
I love the internet
long stone
@harsh oar
Point-free Program Transformation: https://haslab.uminho.pt/alcino/files/pfpt.pdf
The essence of strategic programming: https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/8643/73ffcee27467876b1030ee347b3c2e625756.pdf
Algebraic Specialization of Generic Functions for Recursive Types: https://haslab.uminho.pt/alcino/files/msfp08.pdf
Generic Programming with Fixed Points for Mutually Recursive Datatypes: http://users.eecs.northwestern.edu/~clk800/rand-test-study/_gpwfpfmrd/gpwfpfmrd-2009-10-8-12-02-00.pdf
A Formal Comparison of Approaches to Datatype-Generic Programming: https://arxiv.org/pdf/1202.2920.pdf
Profunctor Optics: Modular Data Accessors: https://arxiv.org/pdf/1703.10857.pdf
Generic Point-free Lenses: https://haslab.uminho.pt/alcino/files/mpc10.pdf
Type-safe Two-level Data Transformation: http://www4.di.uminho.pt/~joost/publications/TypesafeTwolevelDataTransformation.pdf
Transformation of structure-shy programs with application to XPath queries and strategic functions https://haslab.uminho.pt/alcino/files/scp.pdf
Calculating with Lenses: Optimising Bidirectional Transformations: https://haslab.uminho.pt/alcino/files/pepm11.pdf
:D
last plover
internet you scary
tribal osprey
๐
cerulean berry
ugh.. getting the sudden urge to go for a bike ride, but we're under stay at home orders again as of yesterday :/ fucking covid needs to quit already
tribal osprey
Wait, really? You can't even go for a ride?
short wave
texas is in some serious shit right now
harsh oar
Houston?
cerulean berry
houston, yup
harsh oar
Oh, thought you meant exercise ๐
harsh oar
Lot of sharp corners?
digital kite
#SwervinDemCarz
cerulean berry
pleads the fifth
tribal osprey
bad billy
cerulean berry
runs away
molten sage
tribal osprey
๐
tribal osprey
Always there for me broccoli 
molten sage
long stone
@graceful widget what are you trying to find?
river robin
DIAGO
long stone
I thought you were trying to find some kind of spawn code? if not, i'll go back to lurking
wheat prairie
he's watching the stream
last marsh
lol
wheat prairie
z does things weirdly
molten sage
whats the no-fun-stuff role lol
river robin
its the first time in the last 4 days my internet hasnt made twitch a stutterfest
cerulean berry
watching the stream is like time travel. you're 30 seconds behind everyone else ^_^
river robin
celebrating by watching it
wheat prairie
I mean you can watch it muted
cerulean berry
thats what i'm doing, leaf ๐
wheat prairie
same
hidden torrent
omg misclick lol
long stone
๐ฉ ๐ฎ ๐ฆ ๐ฌ ๐ด
last plover
lol
river robin
historically when it's ready for launch its ready for launch and we put it on master
last plover
Sound like sensible milestones
river robin
ver/1.14 for life
digital kite
and then 1.17
last plover
naming things is both hard and super important
long stone
branch name will be hahayes
shrewd pelican
Wow I haven't bothered reading the top messages but from what I'm gathering at first glance here is that we skipped paper 1.16 and went straight to 1.17???
last plover
Honestly, could probably do a better job
main oxide
1.16 was actually skipped, we are on 1.16.1 now lol
shrewd pelican
Amazing work. Mojang needs to stop slacking off. It took them like a year to make 1.16 and you guys are almost done with 1.17 after a few days smh
junior prism
lol, I'd love to see paper devs make soundtracks and block textures, im sure they could throw it together in a few minutes
river robin
mojang has already backported one fix to the version they distrib iirc
so theyre basically already doing that ๐
I thought they backported some fix for an image parser or loader or something
might be misremembering
yeah after many years of inactivity
I basically got busy and stopped
I never formally quit
but I mean practically yeah
long stone
uh oh
river robin
I had the role for like a year or two after though
long stone
test server just died
tribal osprey
Could someone move guhfg down? ๐
manic patrol
Do I need to reboot it?
long stone
I think so
river robin
@graceful widget branch good to go?
long stone
oh looks back now
short wave
you should check and see if there's any important info in the stacktrack / crash glare
might have just died from something hanging
manic patrol
I'm in mobile so that'll have to be later.
I can start it back up tho.
It's restarting.
jagged beacon
ah
wheat prairie
paper 1.16 when
river robin
ETA right now + 6 minutes because its gotta build clean
shrewd pelican
Paper 1.17 when..?
tribal osprey
shrewd pelican
Also is it safe to use now on a production server?
pearl stratus
digital kite
Well, safe as in it won't kill you, yes
shrewd pelican
Good enough :P
river robin
idk it might kill you
digital kite
Safe as in "is it garaunteed to not blow up", bah
river robin
btdubz
shrewd pelican
Also do you guys not have a donation page or anything? I was looking at your websites and githubs and I couldn't find anything for donations
I plan on donating when I get some money soon if possible
shrewd pelican
Ah yep, I see it now. Thanks
river robin
nope all you
molten sage
Aikar said they're going to make a list of all the people who contributed to updating 1.16 & their links if you want to wait for that though
river robin
yup already on it
that's an old commit from before .1 dropped
cache breakers still not cache breaking
damn browsers
its subscription based
I wrote a few utility apps in vala but ultimately decided not to spend a bunch of time
harsh oar
finite beacon
?
river robin
I missed the stupid title placeholder
I just updated the actual endpoint
will put it on the list
uh maybe
river robin
apparently its paypal.me/destroystokyo
molten sage
๐
wintry merlin
How goes the updating?
molten sage
this just in; paper developers asking users to destroy tokyo!
river robin
we did have someone wander in and think that yeah
river robin
dt was the thing that predated paper
digital kite
all of the infrastructure costs are actually for the genetics research lab
timid lion
ahh
river robin
it was an org never really a person
timid lion
That makes sense
wintry merlin
Just refactor everything into a different package. Super easy, barely an inconvenience. ๐
river robin
wait 35 seconds
main oxide
Just mine enough to keep the tps at 20, it will be unnoticeable, and get good results from higher end cpus
tribal osprey
wot
tribal osprey
bugs = tasty
river robin
Paper is proud to announce we are now published by EA
last plover
dying
tribal osprey
@rancid sentinel did you REEEE into voice
manic patrol
Woot, boutta make a fortune with json hover motds.
cerulean berry
thats what they all say
wheat prairie
pr or shutup
long stone
@river robin CHALLENGE EVERYTHING
small ocean
no u
river robin
people would actually think we were supporting it again though
tribal osprey
river robin
they wouldnt even get it
slow gulch
aikar why are you still streaming
wheat prairie
do it on april fools
short wasp
wheat prairie
auto updating is for plebians
tribal osprey
"The perfect Pen for Paper 
"
last plover
BOOM
rancid sentinel
left egret
Woooo! ๐พ Congrats!
river robin
oxford comma is important
frigid elbow
Hey devs, just want to express my gratitude! Appreciate all your hard work
finite blaze
river robin
this is why mbax hides in his cat carrier
silver jasper
haha
finite blaze
cue mbax leaving voice and entering his cat carrier
last plover
thanks all, dropped some donos
harsh oar
river robin
that package is awful
dude never updates it
like one build and thats it per version
arch user repo
river robin
its paper + some wrapper scripts for management
but its never updated
drives me mad
junior prism
think "apt" for arch
finite blaze
how'd the lighting go 
hollow rover
lyric willow
did the lighting thing turn out to be async related as suspected?
lyric hemlock
b00pstreamers? o.O
last plover
assume everyone is a dog until told otherwise
silver jasper
damn voicemeter lol
finite blaze
ah yes the included :slight_smile: in the post ๐
tribal osprey
๐
cosmic oyster
@harsh oar the guy filing the lawsuit has also sued like other huge companies such as EA and epic games
silver jasper
fuck it
quaint iris
theres this girl that paints her nude body on twitch
silver jasper
imma pull out tts
cosmic oyster
rancid sentinel
dark stone
When is the Aikar nude painting sesh?
quaint iris
^
cosmic oyster
harsh oar
river robin
[22:22:27 INFO]: Done (4.351s)! For help, type "help" 
long stone
[20:26:52 INFO]: Done (1.875s)! For help, type "help"
zinc summit
[22:26:21 INFO]: Done (1.854mo)! For help, nah
river robin
client shaking is the the only good feature of discord
long stone
integrate it with the dualshock controller next, only type messages using arrow keys to make it slow
and shake when slowmode
river robin
if they really want to win my love, theyd hack in wiggle windows somehow
molten sage
minecraft 3 
river robin
this is a long standing issue
dark stone
ctrl+shift+r
river robin
30 minute timeout on the api cdn caching for the projects list
(which I always clear on new versions anyway)
if its "fixing" with a forced refresh, then cache breakers are broke
long stone
also
molten sage
poor camm
long stone
๐ธ ๐น ๐ด ๐ต ๐บ ๐ธ ๐ฎ ๐ณ ๐ฌ ๐ฏ ๐ช ๐ณ ๐ฐ ๐ฎ ๐ณ ๐ธ ๐น ๐ด ๐ฉ ๐ด ๐ผ ๐ณ ๐ฑ ๐ด ๐ฆ ๐ฉ โ
wheat prairie
๐ธ ๐น ๐ด ๐ต ๐บ ๐ธ ๐ฎ ๐ณ ๐ฌ ๐ฏ ๐ช ๐ณ ๐ฐ ๐ฎ ๐ณ ๐ธ ๐น ๐ด ๐ฉ ๐ด ๐ผ ๐ณ ๐ฑ ๐ด ๐ฆ ๐ฉ โ
junior prism
gitlab ci is dope
tribal osprey
ty ig
pearl stratus
lol
river robin
can we get some toucans in the chat
manic patrol
tribal osprey
river robin
I think the lore is that they move between dimensions
so it makes sense
mc lore videos when
molten sage
only if leaf narrates them
tribal osprey
please ^
long stone
"Minecrat lore, with ASMR from @wheat prairie"
molten sage
"so basically mojang are seriously [redacted] and this lore makes absolutely no sense but they can teleport"
long stone
hmm
small ocean
harsh oar
We used to have export controls on encryption
zinc summit
However if you delete and say "Report to discord's t&S" they actually can see it, it keeps it
harsh oar
They aren't trying to ban encryption, just trying to ban services from providing end-to-end encryption as a feature
turbid mountain
O_O
zinc summit
actually works evidently, imagine that
hidden torrent
yeah that option is patched in after people brought up that deleted message is goen forever
zinc summit
My friend sent me that dont worry
hidden torrent
so they created that container to contain the offending message lol
pearl stratus
zinc summit
u right i dont have friends ๐คฃ
river robin
jenkins auto deploys it
per your request actually
jesus my console is just full of these fucking predicate errors
cerulean berry
that new discord banner looks blurry as fuck
short wave
zinc summit
https://cdn.discordapp.com/banners/289587909051416579/ce62ede17fd74fe1c4d8d91c05aa7c01.jpg?size=2048
thats full res
tacit gull
How can I join the general vocal chat
dark stone
pixels are overrated
tacit gull
Ah ok thx
zinc summit
yo @tacit gull whered u get your pfp its cool
river robin
paperclip uses releases iirc
tribal osprey
Why the blur though
river robin
its the same amount of blur and everything as the last one
just had him swap the backdrop
it doesnt compress as nicely as the last one though, thanks discord
tribal osprey
๐ฆ discord y
river robin
the client doesnt handle 32 notick very well ๐ฆ
long stone
in any case
the important part, the papermc name itself, is readable
the rest is decoration
river robin
they should let it be a mp4 so I can add blinking lights
fluid eagle
on my server, it looks like chunks aren't loading outside of the login spot (using non-ticking view distance)
looks like aikar's having the same problem on stream rn
not out of memory
the chunks I'm in are from 1.15
I have some thread dumps from when I tried to go to the nether and the server crashed, would that help at all?
using the same build of paper with the same plugins on a "pure" 1.16 testing server doesn't have the same problem
zinc summit
brb have to restart computer
river robin
I remember when we stuff stackable way back when
the client prediction didnt like that
junior prism
think im seeing something similar
hidden torrent
do you guys have the no-tick view?
I dont have that issue when I have that option disabled. idk though
fluid eagle
yes, it sounds like the problem is from no-tick view
junior prism
yep can confirm on my test server, no-tick 15, tick 7. set no-tick to -1 and everything is fine
i turned no-tick back on to 15 and things work
hidden torrent
maybe if it falls behind and doenst get send at all after (?)
junior prism
i also just moved from spigot to paper when I saw that
hidden torrent
I nuked my nether with -1 default no issue flying at speed 10
junior prism
ok i can replicate this is i switch to spigot, then back to paper
hidden torrent
yeah for speed runner
junior prism
so for the chunk generating issue, switch to spigot, login. then switch your server to paper and login
harsh oar
Or just turn no-tick-vd off and you're fine ๐
hidden torrent
lol true so far
junior prism
yeah restarting the server doesnt fix it, you have to flip no-tick
harsh oar
I can't think of anything going to/from spigot would change in your world
zinc summit
am back
winter bronze
Amaranth is a beautiful man
manic patrol
"Go ask SpigotMC Discord"
short wave
digital kite
entityplayer1.playerConnection.sendPacket(new PacketPlayOutViewDistance(worldserver1.getChunkProvider().playerChunkMap.getLoadViewDistance())); // Spigot // Paper - no-tick view distance
river robin
I still get spigot PMs from users asking for unbans from Spigot's discord
its only fair
manic patrol
Do you get emails for new convos?
river robin
not anymore
manic patrol
Damn
junior prism
oh yeah same thing on client logs
Ignoring chunk since it's not in the view range: -133, 87
lusty lichen
are paper staffs getting paid working on this with a entire group of programmers?
manic patrol
You mean the developers for doing the update?
They get paid if you donate! We linked their stuff in #announcements
lusty lichen
overall but yeah they're also included.
river robin
gg
manic patrol
If you're referring to the mods, no, we volunteer.
manic patrol
True
lusty lichen
bigger server networks should automatically contribute some kind of monthly payment to paper if they use it.
lyric hemlock
PaperTAX incoming ๐
lusty lichen
Aikar's flags are amazing
river robin
that reminds me I should make a tweet from that acct
tribal osprey
It gives me flashbacks to when some lady would cook some weird fish/clam/something seafood chowder in the microwave at work, and stink out the whole damn office.
lusty lichen
that reminds me an episode of Gordon Ramsey.
river robin
1.16.2 is coming regardless so they can add a mob
but yeah
on the todo list
its really not a big deal
but yes the todo list is long
the one where they middle finger everyone?
I like that one ๐
server goes brrrrr
you added that cache buster system and I thought it worked for a while
but clearly its been having some issues
wtf is the point of it if its manual
harsh oar
This isn't the same one but close enough
river robin
someone moved it to a gulp task
which I thought was automatic
fuck the client cache, make it always break
we dont push updates that often
yeah you had it manual
and at least that one seemd to work
add it to the default task if its not there
I started clean building it hoping it'd just generate new busters