general

[golden gust]

I'd fight that dude

[neon bramble]

yeah I am pretty much that fat

[vernal moth]

vs me last summer

[raven basin]

how is this debating politics

im defending my country

not politics

[wet storm]

Nothing wrong

[neon bramble]

denery, is aftermarket cheeseburgers already a thing in russia?

[golden gust]

well, discussin that is against the rules

[neon bramble]

😳

cat

I'm sorry ok?

[vernal moth]

so you can def change something too then

[neon bramble]

Never said I can't

[vernal moth]

and like, I still drink plenty beer, eat burgers and pizza and all those things

[raven basin]

Lowest unemployment rate of the eu

[vernal moth]

I am just a bit more considerate

[neon bramble]

such a horrible living right?

[golden gust]

I mean, calories in, calories out, is still important

but, big thing is generally cutting out all of the overly processed crap

[neon bramble]

I am missing the calories out part tbh

[golden gust]

please no mention

[neon bramble]

oh

sorry

I forgot

[neon bramble]

for example?

[vernal moth]

yeah am not that considerate, counting calories sucks, I could never do that, lmao

[raven basin]

47 ranked GDP

[neon bramble]

[golden gust]

I mean, as much as I love the odd coke or energy drink here and there, it's empty calories

[vernal moth]

!warn @raven basin you were told to stop

[thorny flicker]

:raised_hands: Warned Howelon#1859 (you were told to stop) [1 total infraction] -- MiniDigger#3086.

[neon bramble]

I wanted to continue, but I don't want to end up the same lol

[golden gust]

bearing in mind that you don't become fat af overnight

it's generally years upon years of a few hundred calories over daily

[neon bramble]

It is usually a very long process

but I am slowly losing weight, I was about 99kg on christmas

so some progress is there

[vernal moth]

for me it was after school, only eat shit, bag of chips every other day, which was fine till the point I stopped player waterpolo, thats when it went down hill, took like 2 years till I realized it tho

[neon bramble]

but that's probably because spring is coming

[vernal moth]

consistency is whats important

[raven basin]

all you have to do bruh is fast

[wet storm]

Why every time I see the word "consistency" I remember "sequential consistency" term in jmm... It scares

[raven basin]

7 day fast 30 pounds

[hollow jetty]

How do I open a spigot server on my own computer so others can connect?

[raven basin]

this is paper

but

you need to port forward

look up how to port forward on your specific router

look up some youtube guides

and use paper instead

[hollow jetty]

hmm i will try

[scarlet vortex]

how to download papermc 1.17.1 log4j fix???

[golden gust]

#paper-help pins

[scarlet vortex]

ok thx

[marble lark]

i was talking about node-ipc

the idiot actually wiped the drives of some humanitarian organization in Russia from what i remember

[limber knot]

why is the velocity docs not linked on the javadocs page? ;_;

had to search a bit as the velocity site itself doesn't link them in an obvious place either lol

[ashen cliff]

Ah yes. Javadoc search.

For some reason, I always get like 1.11 or 1.15 Bukkit and Waterfall 1.15... Why?

[vernal moth]

meeting over and burger almost here, perfect timing

https://i.imgur.com/hTwhPLX.png

It's perfect

[languid karma]

And you also found a YouTube video to watch... Amazing

[vernal moth]

It was interesting, about foreigners fighting in ukraine

23 year old filmed how we got into barracks and trained in ukraine

The same barracks near Poland russia bombed

Went back to Germany a few days later because he felt like the leadership in ukraine didn't act sane, but I think he just got his sanity back

[plucky sparrow]

Mini you cannot send this

How dare u

It’s the first burger I’ve seen that probably looks like its advertisement

[neon bramble]

mini knows how to use color filters

[wet storm]

Oh, can you send this video? (If not in there can you dm?) I rarely watch something about this situation...

[vernal moth]

That's not a filter, lol

That's just a photo taken by my pixel

[plucky sparrow]

Send some over

[vernal moth]

It's German, lol

https://youtu.be/6O8cA7T2LJg

[foggy veldt]

It’s crazy how much high res coverage we’re getting of this war

I think it’s both technology improvements and the us not suppressing info since we aren’t involved

[wet storm]

oh... let's test my german lang knowledge then

[lavish compass]

@vernal moth what pixel do you have?

[tranquil bone]

If a certain application forces an SSL cert (which I can't change)... is there anyway I can use my EV SSL cert on that website by somehow "forward proxying" it? Reverse definitely won't work. What do I need to search in order to still be able to use my own cert?

[vernal moth]

6pro

[lavish compass]

dam

always wanted a pixel but it's just much more expensive than MSRP here

[lilac moon]

I have a 5a

[vernal moth]

the a series is the much more sane line

got my mom a 4a and she loves it

[lilac moon]

I also installed calyxos instead of the standard google os

[lavish compass]

good choice

[lilac moon]

Graphene is a bit impractical, I tried it

[little frost]

i have a 3a lol

[lavish compass]

Graphenes sandboxing is crazy

[vernal moth]

pixel software is most of what makes the pixel great, why would you throw that out?

[lilac moon]

what kind of pixel software

[lavish compass]

software on pixel is mostly AOSP, with some proprietary components

mainly for camera

and maybe some pixel exclusive features

calyx is based on graphene, which is based on AOSP

[plucky sparrow]

Pixel’s software is literally the best aspect of the Pixel phones

Literally amazing

[lilac moon]

calyx is based on grapheme???

[vernal moth]

I can't tell whats exclusive or not because everybody around me has a pixel or is an apple user

[lavish compass]

mostly yes, without some patches

[plucky sparrow]

Probably the best compared to Samsung

[little frost]

only had to mash it against an edge of a desk a few times but it's still working

[vernal moth]

I didnt knew people still installed custom roms in 2022

[lavish compass]

don't even compare anything to samsung

[plucky sparrow]

I mean if I had a Samsung I’d just throw the entire phone out

[lavish compass]

their software is straight up shit

[vernal moth]

samsungs software got way better

[lavish compass]

well Huawei is worse but

[plucky sparrow]

I completely agree

OneUI is absolute shit

[vernal moth]

I have a samsung tablet and its just fine

[lavish compass]

inb4 samsungs engineers

[plucky sparrow]

If you had it on your phone you’d cry

[lavish compass]

inb4 https://www.forbes.com/sites/daveywinder/2022/02/24/serious-security-shock-for-100-million-samsung-galaxy-s8-s21-smartphone-users/

[plucky sparrow]

Like the last time I tried out it felt unpolished, slow, unresponsive and all of the interface elements were so unreasonably big

[vernal moth]

when was that?

[lilac moon]

I have a friend that loves lineageos on other phones too

[plucky sparrow]

OneUI 2 & 3

[twin lagoon]

oneui is ok

touchwiz was ass

[plucky sparrow]

I’ve also tried the more recent versions and it’s just as bad

I actually liked touchwiz

Design wise

[lavish compass]

touchwiz oh boy

that shit's 🔥 💩

[vernal moth]

ye touchwiz was bad, which is why I said they come a long way

[lavish compass]

I really wished more OEMs make their roms AOSP feeling

[plucky sparrow]

I agree

[twin lagoon]

oneplus had that reputation for a w hile

[lavish compass]

OnePlus had that for a while

[twin lagoon]

but then that company decided to kill itself

[plucky sparrow]

OnePlus is colorOS now

[lavish compass]

goddamnit

[vernal moth]

it doesnt sell

you need to differentiate yourself or people will not buy

[plucky sparrow]

I actually tried emui and honestly, it felt so nice & fast to use

[twin lagoon]

google pixel 5 my beloved

[lavish compass]

that would be the opposite for me

[twin lagoon]

yeah but you're not the average consumer

[vernal moth]

you are not normal

[lavish compass]

since their software is just buggy, cluttered and doesn't look good

[plucky sparrow]

Honestly if I had to get an android phone nowadays it would be a pixel

No other brand is good

It’s a shame they don’t have that much public

[neon bramble]

Probably because of the price

Let's admit it, they are expensive

[vernal moth]

you pay for the best in class camera

and the best software

if thats worth it, thats for you to judge

[twin lagoon]

pixel hasn't held the best camera title for quite some time now

[vernal moth]

compared to other flagships, its not even that expensive

[twin lagoon]

huawei, xiaomi & samsung have dominated that for a while

[plucky sparrow]

The higher end versions can be expensive but they’re still cheaper than Samsung and Apple’s offerings

[neon bramble]

I don't say that the pricetag isn't deserved. But it is the reason why they aren't much popular

[plucky sparrow]

There’s also “budget” versions

[lavish compass]

Imagine if other manufacturers allowed relocking bootloader

[twin lagoon]

i have always been someone who would root their device and flash a custom rom

but since the pixel i haven't felt the need to do so

[worthy geode]

OnePlus does

[lavish compass]

relocking with your own key?

[little frost]

im enjoying the "the bootloader is unlocked and software integrity cannot be guaranteed" warning every time i turn on my phone

[worthy geode]

not sure about that, I haven't done it, just know that you can at least re lock it

[wind geyser]

From what I've heard, they're backing their selves out of that now

After backlash

[lilac moon]

I want some jellybeans

[vernal moth]

its always so funny when people act surprised that oneplus ships oppo software

[wind geyser]

They're sister companies lmfao

[twin lagoon]

oneplus always makes controversial software mistakes atleast once a year

happens every fucking year consistently

they added facebook apps and made them a system app last time

[wind geyser]

They peaked at the 8 Pro

[twin lagoon]

they peaked way earlier

[wind geyser]

Imo

I thought the 8 Pro was cool

I loved the green color

[peak ginkgo]

The 6 and 7s were nuts

[wind geyser]

I wanted to get one, but didn't have the cash unfortunately

[vernal moth]

they peaked at the one

that was the only oneplus I brought

[golden gust]

they continued riding a bit after

[peak ginkgo]

Top of their class when they came out

[vernal moth]

am # sub 50k

[golden gust]

I got the 5T and know a few people in here have one around the same era as I do

[wind geyser]

Didn't you have to like get in a system thing for the OnePlus One?

[twin lagoon]

invite system

[golden gust]

They used to be a flagship competator for a good price

[twin lagoon]

but for the price of the oneplus one it was all worth it

it created hype

[wind geyser]

This. Thanks

[twin lagoon]

it was like what, $299?

[wind geyser]

Couldn't think of the word lol

[twin lagoon]

for a complete flagship phone

[golden gust]

Yea, they had the invite system to limit demand and such

and it was pretty damned good in terms of specs

and the price was amazing

it continued that way for a few revs, but these days it's like, they're tryna just be another flagship

[vernal moth]

I paid 309.99

fucking 2014

man that was ages ago

[limber knot]

if anyone ever needs to know what symbols xbox live gamertags can contain: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/gaming/gdk/_content/gc/live/features/identity/user-profile/gamertags/live-modern-gamertags-unicode xD

[golden gust]

This is not the place to advertise servers

[little frost]

"modern"

[tropic flame]

imagine being a gamertag when you can be ad8e43aa-bd2a-4934-ae57-5754590a7c53

brrrrrr

yes I do know Xbox uses their own form of UUID somewhere

[peak ginkgo]

GUID 🥰

[vernal moth]

I love how easy vue makes it write interface elements like tag inputs https://streamable.com/uc2tjd

https://i.imgur.com/HwyIPTI.png

make use even less lines if I didnt want to make it type safe and pretty, lol

[spare venture]

hangar wen

[vernal moth]

am implementing the UI, one page at a time

I got the flu or corona or whatever so can only do that one page today

but I had to do it to keep my streak up 💪

https://github.com/HangarMC/Hangar/blob/new-frontend/frontend-new/TODO.md

keeping the grind going

29 boxes checked, 175 to go

if I do two pages per day, that will take me like 2 weeks maybe?

but like today I only got one so idk

that was an hour of really unfocused work so multiple pages per day should be easily doable when am not sick

then I only need somebody to paint it all pretty 😄

[pastel reef]

Does Ubuntu run well on AMD?

AMD FX to be exact

[limber knot]

that's an extremely large family of processors but propaply

[wet storm]

get well then...

[vernal moth]

I should get tested I guess, lol

But most likely just the flu and I'll feel better tomorrow

[cold pumice]

Feel better soon!

[vernal moth]

But thanks :)

[pastel reef]

Is it possible to completely destroy the software of an ssd?

Because I'm having problems installing Ubuntu onto one

And it's less than a week old

[limpid knot]

when someone die you won’t ever see them again

Love your family and yo homies

[vernal moth]

Mfw

Well, I guess I don't have anything other planned for the day

[merry talon]

not unless it's defective

[limpid knot]

what movie is that

[wide chasm]

That's just the first episode of a series with eight seasons and 24 episodes per season /s

[vernal moth]

Zack Snyders justice league

Already regret it

[warm anchor]

lol

[vernal moth]

Apperently I should have watched "Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice - Ultimate Edition" first

But with that title I refuse doing so

[magic river]

Snyder needed both a better editor and like 5 films

He jammed that shit full of dropped plot lines, cameos, easter eggs, etc

But no, gotta do everyone's origin story and set up the entire universe all in one film

[vernal moth]

Originally it was planned to be a mini series

[magic river]

That wouldn't have helped

[vernal moth]

I mean, marvel not explaining anything sucks too

[magic river]

That was just them turning the 4 hour thing in to 4-8 segments

I'm saying he packed at least 5 3 hour movies worth of shit in there

[vernal moth]

The marvel films that actually care to explain their characters are the only ones I actually liked

[unkempt drift]

I don't think so. at this point in the MCU, its on you if you don't know what's going on

[magic river]

Or tried to anyway

You end up confused and/or overwhelmed

[vernal moth]

Oh I know the plot machine, but the characters have no depth

Only in their own spin offs are they allowed to have a proper character arch

Honestly, ensemble films as a whole just suck

[magic river]

DC went all in on the grimdark so all you learn about the characters is why they're in so much pain

[vernal moth]

I wanna rewatch the dark night trilogy

To properly compare it to the new one that will come out idk when

[magic river]

They're the ones that set the grimdark tone for the rest

The Batman is already out

[vernal moth]

Did they? The Tim Burton one was already dark, right?

[spare venture]

zach snyder’s justice league sucks

[magic river]

Tim Burton movies aren't grimdark, they're like a bad acid trip 😛

[magic river]

psychedelic horror/comedy

He also has a real thing for putting his wife in his movies then having her die horribly

ex-wife? Yeah, ex-wife

[left swift]

coraline is a fucked up movie

[warm anchor]

lol I knew this is gonna come out but hey darker the easier to post processing

there is this one too with even more

[magic river]

Johnny Depp has murdered Helena Bonham Carter in at least 4 movies

[left swift]

Ben Affleck's suit is the worst

[warm anchor]

the 1966 one looks like some cheap cosplay

[magic river]

He is always either murdering her, sleeping with her, or both

[safe jackal]

my server is under ddos attack every day. It is small server and I dont know why someone devotes so much resources to destroy me.. Does anybody have an idea how to resolve this? My hosting is trying to mitigate it and they doing it well but you know, they can kick me out.

2GB (not Gb)/s

[left swift]

turn off server

[safe jackal]

why?

[magic river]

That's the only way to stop people from DDoSing you 😛

[vernal moth]

Get some ddos protection service I guess

[magic river]

You don't even have to be notable, some people seem to just pick random servers they found in a scan

So it might not be someone trying to take down a popular server or someone you banned getting revenge, it could just essentially just random

So the only way to ensure it doesn't happen is to not run a server

[safe jackal]

but ddos attack isn't expensive?

[magic river]

Alternatively use tcpshield, cloudflare pipes, or a host that offers good protection along with your server

Nah

DDoS is basically free

Either they made a botnet of infected routers, cameras, and computers or they took over one someone else made and then it doesn't cost them anything to use it, other than the risk they'll lose their botnet

[safe jackal]

I am using hetzner and they send me messages like this all the time:

In some cases such an attack can place a considerable strain on network resources and, as a result, a segment of our network can be adversely affected. In such a case the IP address of the attacked server can be blocked as a precautionary measure. You will receive a separate notification with further information if this happens.

[glass crag]

whats cloudflare pipes

[magic river]

Or they paid someone $5 to do it

Might not be the right word, cloudflare has some TCP proxy service

[safe jackal]

Probably I will use cloudflare + tcpshield

but first, I have to change the IP

[red halo]

tcpshield/ovh

[red halo]

cloudflare mc proxy is very expensive unless you get a good deal with them and have a very profitable server

[red halo]

spectrum

[neon bramble]

Also can't find it

[glass crag]

think its cloudflare spectrum

[neon bramble]

https://www.cloudflare.com/products/cloudflare-spectrum/

yup

[glass crag]

TIL

[neon bramble]

We may look into that

I would rather trust CF than tcpshield

[twin lagoon]

you're not going to be able to pay for it

[neon bramble]

yeah

I've just looked

[twin lagoon]

even with volume discounts it's expensive

[neon bramble]

and the pricing is very spicy

[twin lagoon]

use tcpshield's premium solution if you want cf spectrum

[left swift]

michael is rich so he can afford it

[neon bramble]

what

[twin lagoon]

i don't use spectrum anymore either

[left swift]

he has lootbox money

[twin lagoon]

the 3mbit connection limit makes minecraft 1.18 difficult

[neon bramble]

oof

[twin lagoon]

so plain tcpshield it is

[neon bramble]

so it's like solution for big servers

otherwise oof

[twin lagoon]

there's no reason not to trust tcpshield tbh

great guys behind it, good reputation

[neon bramble]

really?

Well then

gonna believe you

you seem like the guy who knows his shit

[twin lagoon]

has existed for years (although only publicly the last 2 - 3 years)

[left swift]

michael doesnt know anything hes just paid to promote stuff here

[twin lagoon]

also true

[left swift]

u should get paid to promote shit

[worn ember]

you'd think you're paid to shitpost here

[left swift]

probably have sent atleast 10 people to bloomhost this month

[twin lagoon]

[coarse lily]

I pay Michael to promote good will towards mankind.

[twin lagoon]

use code michael for 15% off on your first month at dedicatedmc.io

[frank otter]

Michael can I pay you to promote bad will towards mankind

[left swift]

code michaelfrompapermcgeneralchat for 15% off

[twin lagoon]

am not joking either that code should work

unless that slimey little rat called tehlo removed it

[left swift]

ping

[neon bramble]

smh should've been dedicated.mc

[left swift]

mc a tld?

[twin lagoon]

it is

but only for business in monaco

[neon bramble]

is it?

[left swift]

lol

[neon bramble]

I've seen some registrars offering it tho

[twin lagoon]

ye but you'll still need to provide business info

[empty berry]

how much ram usage is normal for a 1.18.2 server

[twin lagoon]

atleast 2 possibly -5

[empty berry]

im currently playing with 2 ppl and 5 gb is not enough

[left swift]

this many

[neon bramble]

jokes on you, you need to do that with czech (.cz) domain too

[twin lagoon]

send your crash logs in #paper-help

or timings / spark reports if you're lagging

[empty berry]

i got the timings, getting the log file from when it crashed

[neon bramble]

".MC domain names are open to the commercial entities registered in Monaco, and an RCI ("Répertoire du Commerce et de l'Industrie") business certificate must be provided during the registration process. The company name should coincide exactly with the requested domain name.
In the case you have an international trademark covering Monaco, a trademark certificate from the World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO) will be requested. In this case the domain can only be registered under .TM.MC."

Well sucks

[left swift]

how dare they

[frank otter]

I cant find any words ending in tm

well

any potentially relevant words

[spare venture]

5gb is enough for 2 people

[coarse lily]

It does kinda depend on what the server's doing, plugins, etc.

I guess if you're worldediting like 50k blocks all day 5GB might be not great.

But 5GB should be plenty for 2 people

[karmic harness]

Sometimes it do depend on stuff like that

[neon bramble]

do you need ddos protection for server for 2 people nvm you are talking about RAM

[karmic harness]

If it's just a vanilla server you could get away with 2 gb

Is the server public or private

is it only gonna be you and your friend, are you gonna advertise your server?

[coarse lily]

You're not likely to get targeted for a DoS with 2 people, but someone might DoS it randomly anyway. Can't hurt to have protection.

[karmic harness]

^

Worst case, someone can come in from shodan.io lol

[safe jackal]

Is it possible to have one domain (for example test .com.pl) for a website AND mc server? Now I have only one domain and it is working but I want to install cloudflare (for a website) and a tcpshield (for mc server). So I dont know is it even possible. Someone know how to do it? You can pm me

[coarse lily]

Yeah, the domain and the server don't run on the same port.

[karmic harness]

Does TCP shield now support bedrock on the free version?

[empty berry]

nah just survival but its running good now

problem is i was planning on hosting an smp

[safe jackal]

but my domain can redirect to only one CNAME I think. I mean test .com.pl -> redirect to 43.43.54.21 (random IP). But if I want to add cloudflare and tcpshield I need to have something like this:

test .com.pl -> redirect to cloudflare's IP
test .com.pl -> redirect to TCPShield's IP.

How the domain provider will recognize which is which?

[empty berry]

so i need room for like 10 people

[proud lance]

They have to be on the same IP

If youre game server and web hosting server are on different IPs then no

[neon bramble]

just have SRV record for Minecraft
and A record for website

no issue

[safe jackal]

thanks

I need to learn about SRV record becouse I never heard

[neon bramble]

Calling BS on this one

[karmic harness]

That will work fine with non hybrid servers

Hybrid= Bedrock + Java support (Java Based)

[proud lance]

SRV records aren't supported 100%, its great to have one, but you should have an A record for the server

[coarse lily]

Minecraft supports SRV, so if you're using an SRV record for a server you're fine.

[left swift]

srv stands for severe reverse vehicles

[little frost]

some isps have apparently had issues with srv records, or so i've heard

[neon bramble]

never heard of that

[safe jackal]

I cant add an SRV record for main domain. I mean I can add it for subdomain

no for "test .com.pl"

[proud lance]

cat mentioned it

[neon bramble]

did he?

hmm

[proud lance]

hence why my original recommendation was to use an A record with a SRV record on top if you want to get fancy

[safe jackal]

I think I will have to use subdomain for example "play.test .com.pl"

to MC server

[void void]

epic I am no longer white

[little frost]

epic

can't relate

[left swift]

how does that work

[tropic flame]

what an ugly color for boosters, the original pink is much better

[left swift]

or

[wet storm]

N? bad joke.

[wind geyser]

??

[tropic flame]

nachos?

tacos

burritos

[void void]

\🌮\🌯

[wet storm]

No. I meant "No".

[wet storm]

Shawarma

[raven basin]

huh lmao

[worn ember]

https://youtu.be/smFt0EquNoo its not enough that you pay to use our products, we'll put ads in them too

[vernal moth]

People still raging about a feature that was never released....

[raven basin]

Microsoft is so bad

[vernal moth]

And did you actually pay for windows 10?

[worn ember]

well better it never did

[vernal moth]

I know I didnt

[raven basin]

windows 10 is so bad

[worn ember]

i paid with it in my sanity

[raven basin]

imagine being such a gross and bad os for 150$

[worthy geode]

I like it

[vernal moth]

Very helpful comment thank you

[worn ember]

i've had 3 systems completely brick itself from windows updates

[vernal moth]

Ok, so it you don't like it, don't use it?

[worn ember]

so i literally have them disabled on every system now

[raven basin]

If your os uses 3 gb of ram idle then thats a joke

[vernal moth]

Clearly there are alternatives, right? Right?!

[worn ember]

not really

[vernal moth]

Disabling software updates is absolutely stupid

[raven basin]

Well the thing is windows 10 is so popular

that

[worn ember]

it bricking my system is too...

[raven basin]

you kind of have to use it for 100% compatibility

[vernal moth]

Considering writing your message in one message please

You never had bugs in your software? Lol

[void void]

what makes you think I do?

[worn ember]

non that bricked my pc

[vernal moth]

Have you ever written an OS?

[raven basin]

true but for 150$ you should get an actually good product

[void void]

you can literally use it for free lol

[vernal moth]

150 euro is absolutely nothing for what you get, lmao

[worn ember]

what stupid argument is that, so i cant complain unless i've written a better OS than a multi billion dollar company?

[vernal moth]

And like, as I said, most didn't even pay for windows 10 and 11

[raven basin]

elaborate

[vernal moth]

See, what do you think how many million development hours went into windows

I wanna say more than 150 bucks worth

[raven basin]

you get spyware and _NSAKEY

[vernal moth]

Clearly

Paper ships telemetry, is that spyware too?

[void void]

yes

paper bad

[vernal moth]

Or is telemetry only bad if Microsoft does it

[raven basin]

I trust paper devs more then microsoft

much more

[vernal moth]

Telemetry is absolutely essential to any developer with more than 10 users

[raven basin]

and its open source correct

[worn ember]

I don't hate windows or MS but you really cant say they're very good at what they do if you need to do anything beyond basic use

[vernal moth]

That can't be true, else alternatives would have a higher market share

[raven basin]

I dont think you can call a OS "Proffessional" if it ships with a copy of candy crush

[worthy geode]

they are the only OS outside of Apple stuff that has bearable UI/UX for the average user

[worn ember]

What alternatives? Sweaty Linux or overpriced Banana OS?

[vernal moth]

Software sucks, every single piece of code every written sucks

[unkempt drift]

hey mini, do you know by chance, how to use paperweight userdev, but only add it to the test classpath? I just want to use it for tests

[vernal moth]

Nope

[unkempt drift]

😦

[vernal moth]

Gradle is magic

[unkempt drift]

yeah, that's the problem I'm running into

[void void]

fork it

[vernal moth]

The pro version doesn't ship it fwiw

[worn ember]

it does

[vernal moth]

Why don't I have it then

[raven basin]

Did u debloat windows?

[worn ember]

i dont have it either but i ran debload scripts

[worthy geode]

isn't it just a short cut to an installer anyways? at least on Win 11 thats the case

[vernal moth]

I did not face desk when running the installer if you mean that

[worn ember]

it was there when i first installed tho

[raven basin]

Also why is windows 11 a new os

[worthy geode]

it will only install the app when you click on the icon for the first time

[raven basin]

theres like 2 changes

[vernal moth]

Then you didn't read the installer

[worthy geode]

well, 11 is free, so why not

they also increase the number for android versions

[raven basin]

it is not free

[worthy geode]

if you run 10 it is

[vernal moth]

Why is any version number ever increased, what kinda question is that

[tropic flame]

oh boy the chat is hot, let me contribute: Windows should not have gone past 7

bye

[worn ember]

huh theres android versions after 7?

[vernal moth]

Why am I talking to a wall

I should just go to sleep

[void void]

beer tho

[raven basin]

Because its not a version increase its supposed to be a whole new os

[vernal moth]

That's not how this works

It was never in the past a new OS

[worn ember]

[vernal moth]

It's always just a major update

There is still code from the NT days in windows

[void void]

lol

[vernal moth]

Man why are people so stupid

[tropic flame]

there is literal DOS code still somewhere on windows, might as well just call it DOS 69.0 because it's not a whole new OS, just DOS reskinned /s

[little frost]

im just glad to not have to deal with windows jank and have better control over my hardware

[worn ember]

MS dropping support for a 2 year old feature
Also microsoft: supporting 30 yo feature cuz meh legacy

[vernal moth]

Telemetry told them where to focus their efforts, is that surprising?

[raven basin]

Look how gross this is lol

[worthy geode]

other than the color scheme (which you can change) this looks fine

[raven basin]

just look at the right lol

[vernal moth]

Cool, now we discussing subjective design?

[worn ember]

Tell me you're butthurt without telling me you're butthurt lol

[raven basin]

Just look how much bloat there is to the right

[vernal moth]

Man, if you don't like windows, that's fine, but at least have reasons

[tropic flame]

just remove the bloat lol

[worthy geode]

have you tried right clicking the stuff on the right?

[tropic flame]

you can literally delete the tiles

holy shit

[wide chasm]

I agree the panels are annoying, but you can just remove them all and then it's gone

[tropic flame]

Discovery of the decade

[worn ember]

Well i gave you a few you decided to ignore it

[raven basin]

still

[prime coral]

joooooo look at this

[raven basin]

shouldnt be there in the first place

[worthy geode]

and if you don't like the panels, Win 11 removes them completely

[vernal moth]

Why are you using windows if you hate it so much?
It you would conquer your hate and actually learn to use your OS, you might actually like it!

[raven basin]

did you read my message compatibility

thats the only reason

[tropic flame]

how compatible is your message?

[magic river]

iirc Windows 11 is not 10 because OEMs

[vernal moth]

Linux can run or replace virtually everything

That argument doesn't work anymore

[raven basin]

not really

[magic river]

I don't remember if it was to get more money from Dell or because Dell was asking for it

[little frost]

yes really

[raven basin]

A lot of stuff is still incompatible

[vernal moth]

Name one thing you use you can't do on linux

[raven basin]

Premiere Pro

[magic river]

Mostly only rootkits are incompatible these days, although if you're doing the latest Adobe products then yeah

[vernal moth]

Right, not a single video editor on Linux

[magic river]

Of course, you could always use something else or get a mac

[raven basin]

Yeah but premiere pro is a lot better

of course theres alternatives but I want to use what im familiar with

[vernal moth]

So you actually like window and it's software?

[raven basin]

thats not its software

Im familiar with premiere

[vernal moth]

Why doesn't it run elsewhere then?

[left swift]

[raven basin]

Idk ask adobe lol

why would I know

probably because windows 10 is the most popular

[vernal moth]

It's like complaining that you can't use iMessage on Android

[magic river]

https://helpx.adobe.com/premiere-pro/kb/premierepro-and-macos-big-sur.html

[void void]

[worn ember]

Amaranth, want to sponsor my transition to mac?

[vernal moth]

You either get the whole ecosystem or don't

[worn ember]

i just need like 3k

[magic river]

If you can afford Premier Pro you can afford a MBA 😛

Or any mac, probably

[worn ember]

bold of you to assume i pay for it

[raven basin]

against the rules

delete that message

[worn ember]

also isnt that like 24euro a month for the entire sweet?

[raven basin]

my mom pays for it

[void void]

so you don't pay for it

[little frost]

emmy

[raven basin]

no

she uses it for work

[void void]

"against the rules" "delete that message" moment

[magic river]

$53/mo and you can't just use someone else's copy 😛

[raven basin]

she pays for mine as well

[vernal moth]

Clearly

This is dum, am out, good night everybody

Hopefully I can actually do productive stuff again tomorrow

[tropic flame]

the absolute state of PaperMC where you have to disguise your seven seas sailing acts as "my mom paid for me"

jk

[worn ember]

The red sea is more fun

[raven basin]

The only thing you could accuse me of "pirating" is emulation

but thats different

not really piracy

[tropic flame]

that's actually based

and I mean, fuck Adobe anyways lmao

[raven basin]

I used to download ps2 and Ds emulators off of github

and then host them on pc

and then play on the emulator at school

[tropic flame]

I still think about this tweet from time to time

[raven basin]

on laptops

[tropic flame]

love the energy

[raven basin]

I dont get it

because its a shitty feature lmao

why is 1.13 so unoptimised

[magic river]

wow that's one hell of a bundle https://www.humblebundle.com/stand-with-ukraine-bundle

[raven basin]

EFT economy rn

I support ukraine

but I also feel bad for russian people

[wide chasm]

123 items wtf

[raven basin]

you know what would be nice

if discord added a feature where it would show you all the latest pings

so I could easily jump to a ping

instead of having to scroll through the whole channel till I find it

sort of like how pins work

but specific to you

[timber sentinel]

Click on the inbox button on the top right of your screen

[raven basin]

Bruh 💀

your telling me

this whole time

I didnt know about this

well thanks

wait

can you jump to the ping tho

[worthy geode]

they moved it recently (it was in the top right before), but that feature has existed for years

yes, click on it

[raven basin]

what are the benefitys of using velocity vs bungee

should I switch

[worthy geode]

speeeeed

[raven basin]

wdym

[worthy geode]

https://docs.papermc.io/velocity/why-velocity

[raven basin]

better for larger networks

?

ok

[worthy geode]

Its more modern and faster than bungee, basically

[raven basin]

ok

thx

[wet storm]

Oh, I prob know a way to do so, but it would look very hacky, I'll test it cuz it is interesting (why doesn't paperweight userdev have this feature?)

[magic river]

I'm surprised paperweight and especially userdev even work at all

[worthy geode]

it works pretty well for me, together with run-paper I really like the entire setup

[magic river]

I'm not saying it's bad, the opposite really

[foggy silo]

Yea it works all really well!

[wet storm]

I have large monorepo (basically multiproject build) where I manage and build all my plugins automatically with paperweight

[quartz vapor]

Hey just wondering if anyone is willing to help me with DiscordSRV alerts and two plugin events. I asked in the discordsrv server but not replies so far.

[worthy geode]

I do still struggle a lot with gradle tho

[magic river]

It's doing something stupidly hard/complex but you only have to add like 3 lines to your gradle setup

[foggy silo]

Yeah it can hide so much

[wet storm]

Every build plugin is simpler than ForgeGradle tho...

[worthy geode]

well, care to explain a bit more?

[quartz vapor]

So, first prob is trying to have an alert for when players get married/divorced. See my code here:

  - Trigger: DivorcedEvent
    Channel: global
    Embed:
      Color: "#bc1e1b"
      ImageUrl: ""
      Author:
        Name: "${#event.getPlayer1().getUsername()} and ${#event.getPlayer2().getUsername()} just got divorced"
        ImageUrl: "{embedavatarurl}"
        Url: ""

  # Send a marry message
  - Trigger: MarriedEvent
    Channel: global
    Embed:
      Color: "#f62681"
      ImageUrl: ""
      Author:
        Name: "${#event.getPlayer1()} and ${#event.getPlayer2()} just got married"
        ImageUrl: "{embedavatarurl}"
        Url: ""``` 

But it returns this

[foggy silo]

Missing .getUsername()?

Oh wait, nvm

[quartz vapor]

thats the divorce message, the marry event doesn't even work, thats issue number 2 lol

[foggy silo]

Yeah I saw, whoopsies

[wet storm]

I researched how actually FG works for about two months, it is stupidly hard, it has binary patches which are basically reobfuscated diff pacthes of java bytecode, they are contained in .lzma format in forge's jar resources and they patch vanilla server / client with the whole forge api, FG has some really crazy things

[empty berry]

you guys reckon this could be caused by a ram leak?

is there any way to detect what could be causing this

[quartz vapor]

am I using this right? https://ci.pcgamingfreaks.at/job/MarriageMaster API/javadoc/

[worthy geode]

a heap dump. Paper has a built in command for it iirc, /paper heapdump or similar.
You will need an external tool to analyze it tho (and kinda need to know what you need to look for)

[empty berry]

hmmm

any recomendations lol

for like the tools

[worthy geode]

Eclipse memory analyzer usually

[drowsy urchin]

What’s with this?

I’ve never seen that

[magic river]

That's what they put in to counter people linking to that fake Linux commit

[frank otter]

aw

small pity

[magic river]

Forks all share a repo, basically, since they're mostly identical

So you can look at any fork's commits on the main repo, this is how PRs work

That new message makes it clear when you're doing this

[drowsy urchin]

Ahh

[magic river]

Neat, Valve says 200 games from my library should run flawlessly on Steam Deck

Of course I probably won't have one until June...

Untested games in your Steam Library: 1,391

[worthy geode]

thats a lot of games oO

[empty berry]

i think i mostly fixed my ram issues

is 8.5gb usage good for 5 players (3 of which are exploring chunks)

[worthy geode]

RAM usage really doesn't scale linearly with players

its not like CPU usage where you can kinda say "oh its using 50% of the available resources so I have space for twice the amount of players"

[magic river]

CPU doesn't scale like that either

Some parts of it are O(n^2) where n is the number of players

[worthy geode]

yeah I know, couldn't think of a better example tbh

network bandwidth maybe? also kinda eh

[magic river]

The main O(n^2) thing I was thinking of is deciding what packets to send so probably not 😛

If your players are close together you'll use less RAM and, if you don't use per-player mob spawns, probably less CPU too even though some CPU things will be more expensive

[empty berry]

Mmh okay

Thanks for the help everyone!

My servers now working okay

[raven basin]

1859 games

how

[magic river]

🧑‍🏭

[raven basin]

5 steam games

[magic river]

That and 11 years

[raven basin]

for me

[raven basin]

how much is ur steam library worth

[raven basin]

wtf

[magic river]

A lot of it comes through bundles

Could have sworn Steam used to have a thing to tell you your total spending in purchase history, guess not

[muted storm]

Well shit

[magic river]

There were a couple years where I really did spend a bunch on Steam due to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUo1PgKksgw

But I'd guess 70-80% of my library is from bundles and Humble Monthly

Maybe more, not sure

[rare python]

[raven basin]

bro

what

[limpid knot]

do any of you guys excercise

[vestal jasper]

I do on occasion why

[formal turret]

100% of the people who exercise, die

[raven basin]

https://tenor.com/view/no-gif-24966265

https://tenor.com/view/talking-ben-drinking-apple-cider-throw-rude-gif-22031991

[cunning raft]

keep the shitty memes in #gifs-and-memes please

[twin lagoon]

love ben

[tropic flame]

I mean... there used to be GCJ, but it's been discontinued so unless you're fine with still writing Java 6 compliant code...

[unkempt drift]

wow uh, never knew evokers turned blue sheep to red sheep

is that a reference to smth? seems very specific

[foggy silo]

The sheep color conversion spell is a reference to priests in a video game named "Age of Empires", where they can turn enemy units into friendly units (changing the unit's color in the process) after making a "wololo" sound.
Because "Age of Empires" and Minecraft are Microsoft branded IPs, Mojang was able to get the actual "wololo" sound effect from "Age of Empires" for evokers to use.[1]

https://minecraft.fandom.com/wiki/Evoker#Sheep_color_conversion_spell

[unkempt drift]

oh I didnt think to look at the trivia section.

[thorny totem]

wololoooo 😆

[spiral robin]

Ok fixing

[waxen panther]

ABER

[raven basin]

reccomended pc setup for hosting 2 servers preferably under 250$

about 10-20 people on each server

[left swift]

bruh

does the galaxy s10 go straight to s22?

I fucking cba with this phone numbering bullshit

[wise lion]

nah

s20

[left swift]

so s8, s10, s20?

[wise lion]

yea

[magic river]

s8, s9, s10, s20, s21, s22

[left swift]

omfl

[wise lion]

no wait

[left swift]

how old is s10

[wise lion]

the iphone skipped the 9

[left swift]

I have s8 right now need upgrade cuz battery and charger is going shit

but not interested in shelling 1 grand

[magic river]

Just like we got 780, 980, 1080, 2080, 3080, they numbers are all bullshit 😛

[upbeat kelp]

oracle cloud free tier registration is hard

[wise lion]

nvidia's numbers make more sense compared to the phones tho

[magic river]

If you're in the US AT&T is doing a thing right now where they'll give you $800 off an S22 for a trade in on your S8 even if it doesn't work

[left swift]

I can get a refurbished s10 for $215

but then I have to go with at&t for phone service right

[magic river]

Well, yeah, 2 year contract

[left swift]

I use straight talk

lol

easy simple $50 a month

no contract shit

aight s10+ seems like what I'm gonna get

nice

[raven basin]

@left swift I use that as well

but its extremely insecure

and you can get sim swapped easily

happened to someone i know before

[left swift]

was also looking at the s21

[warm anchor]

The recommendation is to play in a public server with friend.

[limpid knot]

I guess you wonder where I beennnn

Im searching to find a love withinnnn

[silver nexus]

…

[marble lark]

xd

[next frost]

there is JDT

[honest stirrup]

ok

[safe jackal]

Hi! Is it possible to set on my dedicated server firewall rules that only users from cloudflare can Access? I mean if someone has real IP of my dedicated, then he cant Access anyway, he is rejected. Is it possible?

[noble lodge]

https://www.cloudflare.com/en-ca/ips/
You can whitelist those

[viral hornet]

GOOD MORNING @quasi valley

[safe jackal]

Thanks a lot. Do you know if tcpshield has similar list?

[jagged temple]

Help intelij

[left spear]

Hey! whats a good host for an SMP server?

[viral hornet]

https://dedicatedmc.io

[novel horizon]

depends on you too, but generally you can use bloom.host or dedicatedmc, there's few others that are okay too

[viral hornet]

no

only dedicatedmc

[novel horizon]

😠

[left spear]

Omg

[novel horizon]

you can find some others in history too

[plucky sparrow]

bloom.host superiority

[left spear]

I saw bloom but it have that storage limit):

[vernal moth]

We should get affiliate links for all the free advertising here

[magic river]

Did my dedicatedmc cheque get lost in the mail or what?

[novel horizon]

okay so

[magic river]

🥷

[viral hornet]

no

[novel horizon]

use the one that google suggests

so we dont need to advertise

:oo

[plucky sparrow]

no

[magic river]

Google tells me to use apex hosting 😛

[vernal moth]

Being sick sucks

[plucky sparrow]

exactly

[novel horizon]

yep apex best

[left spear]

What's the difference between bloom and dedicatedmc? Omg

[novel horizon]

use dedi

or else...

[viral hornet]

one is dedicatedmc

one isn't

[vernal moth]

My watch is concerned about my high stress Level, lol

[plucky sparrow]

one is bloom host

[vernal moth]

Cause my BPM is so high

[plucky sparrow]

one isn't

[viral hornet]

no

[magic river]

Oh yeah when I'm sick (or drunk) my watch thinks I'm running a marathon or something

[novel horizon]

https://eternity.community/index.php/paper-optimization/#Hosting-Options

[left spear]

Omg

[magic river]

It showed like 4 hours of high intensity workout but like 400 steps one day when I spent a day sick in bed

[left spear]

XD

[vernal moth]

Being drunk doesn't raise my pulse anymore, guess that's what training does

[magic river]

lol, I was about to say I'm surprised yours doesn't show like 12 hours of working out

[vernal moth]

But even when sleeping tonight I had a pulse of 70

[viral hornet]

@warm anchor shit guide

[left spear]

I want to tell this, just bought on that vultam host

[viral hornet]

needs less hosts

[vernal moth]

When normally I have a resting pulse of sub 55

[viral hornet]

cringe

[novel horizon]

chill mom

[vernal moth]

At least the fever seems gone

[left spear]

Its bad? Omg

[novel horizon]

nah its okay don't listen to them

[warm anchor]

ok mom @viral hornet

[viral hornet]

[left spear]

Omg

[magic river]

Yikes, when I'm sleeping I'm usually at like 53 BPM

[novel horizon]

depends on where you live too, so you get decent ping, generally if you want just a SMP go for either dedicatedmc or bloom.host, it's okay

[left spear]

I bought 3 servers but they gave just 2 ):

[viral hornet]

ya'll with this 50 & 70 BPM

[magic river]

Used to be lower when I was younger, when I was in the ICU once I kept setting off an alarm right as I fell asleep because I was getting in to the 40s

[novel horizon]

I'm about that number too, a bit more probably

[viral hornet]

Mine is always at or over 100

[novel horizon]

In sleep?

[viral hornet]

awake

[vernal moth]

I had a pretty bad fever last night, only went away at like 6am

[plucky sparrow]

if it's at 100 during sleep then you might have some health issues

idk though

[left spear]

Omg thanks /:

[vernal moth]

back when I was doing sports every day I was dropping that low too

[magic river]

Oh btw being in the ICU sucks 😛

[left spear]

Wish u feel better soon omg

[vernal moth]

well, I already feel good enough to continue my daily grind of at least one hangar page per day 😄

I know that ill regret it but it is what it is 😄

[plucky sparrow]

hangar..?

[viral hornet]

only one hangar page?

[magic river]

TIL Shep Smith does NBC Nightly News as a substitute anchor now

He was the one who quit Fox News because they were getting too crazy

[void void]

Bit late, but that still exists, it’s just a bit hidden: https://help.steampowered.com/en/accountdata/AccountSpend

[magic river]

I only have OldSpend there which it says is for money spent before 2015

Wow, apparently Congresspeople can get pretty.... heated https://twitter.com/christos_ioa/status/1504992254011736068

Christos (@christos_ioa)

RIP Don Young. Remembering one of my favorites stories about him, the time he held a knife to John Boehner’s throat:

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[neon bramble]

Any opinion on this? https://www.reddit.com/r/admincraft/comments/thpndw/welcome_to_pearl/

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) Welcome to Pearl! : admincraft - 2 comments, 0 points - CursedKiwi2792, 2h ago

[void void]

No TotalSpend? Odd

[magic river]

https://github.com/Pearl-Project/Pearl/blob/master/patches/api/0002-Detect-bad-plugins.patch

[golden gust]

I mean

their thin is literally patches ripped off from elsewhere

[magic river]

•        HttpURLConnection connection = (HttpURLConnection) new URL("https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Pearl-Project/bad-plugins-list/main/list.json").openConnection();
  

[golden gust]

violates the license

and then, like...

[magic river]

You know people don't care about that part 😛

[golden gust]

then they have a patch

[vernal moth]

looked at that the other day, just a collection of patches from elsewhere, nothing original

[golden gust]

which removes a thing

[vernal moth]

so no value

[magic river]

They don't care if this thing shot your dog, does it make their server work better?

[golden gust]

which is literally fucking gated behind a system property anyways

improve hopper performance

literally an aikar patch he doen't have in paper because it breaks behavior

[magic river]

https://github.com/Pearl-Project/Pearl/blob/master/patches/server/0005-Always-agree-to-EULA.patch

👮‍♂️

[void void]

That sounds like it's against the eula 😅

They also removed the (very valid) offline mode warning

[neon bramble]

[magic river]

It does at least tell you where all the patches came from and who wrote them, or mostly anyway

[vernal moth]

so yeah, just another dum fork that collects and combines a bunch of stuff from elsewhere

[neon bramble]

Anyway gtg, thanks for your opinion

[magic river]

On a related note, I wonder why https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/pull/7068 never got merged

It got approved, did MM just not want to merge his own PR?

[vernal moth]

https://i.imgur.com/1Hn6yzW.png

[magic river]

Yeah him and Owen do all the work, you just play with websites 😛

[worn ember]

Just let the man merge his own pr's already

[vernal moth]

[Vue warn]: Hydration text mismatch:
- Client: "paper2 reported paper/dum on 19.03.2022, 10:09 "
- Server: "paper2 reported paper/dum on 03/19/2022, 10:09 AM " 

fuck me

how am I supposed to deal with this?

[magic river]

Stop using Intl, it's broken

[vernal moth]

the date is localized, server obviously doesn't know it

I just call date.toLocaleDateString

[magic river]

Ship another 3MB of localization metadata to the browser so you can use the same library on both ends and get the same results

[vernal moth]

guess ill just wrap it in a client-only, since its only a staff page anyways, lol

you are right actually

I need to pass my date thru my i18n lib

that can handle dates am sure

[magic river]

The client should tell you what locale it wants too

[vernal moth]

yeah that is still a todo

[magic river]

It's a header

[vernal moth]

well, hangar allows you to switch the language too

so I also need to get the lang from the logged in user

[worn ember]

god i hate the time system so much

its such a PITA

[golden gust]

I mean

ISO 8601 ez

I mean, I kinda prefer to like, nudge it a bit

e.g. I'll often just stick to using purely hyphens as seperators, or replace the seperate with a space for like, human stuff

but, YYYY-MM-DD is the best format, prove me wrong

[copper cliff]

Is spigot down?

Im getting that as well lol

[golden gust]

I mean, works here

[void void]

Up for me too

[vernal moth]

does anybody actually care tho?

[whole rock]

Is there any world editing software like mcedit that would work for the newest versions? I have a chunk that you get kicked when you enter it for too large packet size so i cant really investigate the reason

[vernal moth]

there are forks of mcedit iirc

lmfao, the mac studio display has a "non removable" power cord

but if you use force you can remove it

but they put actual engineering time to make sure its hard to remove

and they still go around and spout about eco friendlyness when you can't even change the fucking power cord

holy shit apple

[worn ember]

The best next thing!

[vernal moth]

like, pets exist

power cords do get damaged

[neon bramble]

Pets + power cords = 💀

[vernal moth]

I wonder how the "genius bar" would react if you come with a broken power cord

I bet they would try to sell you a new display

[neon bramble]

Honestly, what would you expect from Apple?

[thorn cypress]

Anyone have ideas why unknown players have found my server? A player called _LeeEggs_ joined, ran the command /plugins and left (all within 3 seconds) their IP leads to America and i haven't shared the IP outside of a few friends
They didn't do anything yet but i enabled whitelist and now i woke up to see 4 people who i don't recognise trying to join
Not important just curious to see if anyone else has things like this happening

[neon bramble]

Offline mode server?

[thorn cypress]

Nope

[neon bramble]

well then, if you have whitelist on, there's really nothing to worry about

It is really possible that someone has randomly found your server

It's not that hard actually

[thorn cypress]

Really?

[neon bramble]

yeah

[thorn cypress]

Just typing random IPs into direct connect?

[neon bramble]

There are even search engines like shodan for this

It was most likely a bot

[thorn cypress]

Imma leave they a nice message in whitelist message xd

[radiant oriole]

Every IPv4 address can be scanned for a Minecraft server by a single host with a fast enough connection in under 20 minutes.

[neon bramble]

That's a pretty bold statement

[radiant oriole]

It’s true

There are tools on GitHub that do it (Not Minecraft specifically but can be trivially adapted to send a handshake packet)

[neon bramble]

let's do the math

let's assume that there are about 3.5 billions of available IP addresses

If you were to do this in 20 minutes

[radiant oriole]

https://github.com/zmap/zmap

[thorn cypress]

There are 4,294,967,296 possible IPv4 addresses

[radiant oriole]

🙂

5 minutes with 10GBE

[neon bramble]

you would need to scan about 3 millions of ipv4 addresses per second

are yo ureally sure

[radiant oriole]

Yep

It’s possible

[neon bramble]

a lot of them are reserved and basically not available

[radiant oriole]

That’s 3M PPS which is not hard to actually achieve on a 10gbe connection

[neon bramble]

well

assuming you have this fast connection

[radiant oriole]

Of those only a fraction will respond on 25565

And at that point you just send a handshake to those that are on 25565 and see what you get back

[neon bramble]

ok this will only handle servers that are hosted on 25565

[radiant oriole]

Sure

[neon bramble]

I would dare to say that most of servers aren't on port 25565

[radiant oriole]

But a huge amount of servers are on 25565, and for those that aren’t you could just repeat the scan on other ports. Shodan is already doing this shit at scale.

[neon bramble]

yes, they are

and shodan only detects a very small fraction of servers

according to bstats

[radiant oriole]

Because shodan is really not looking very hard for Minecraft servers

[neon bramble]

there are about 175k bukkit servers running

[radiant oriole]

If you built a network of computers you could scan the entire address space AND the entire port space in not so much time.

[neon bramble]

I would take a look at how much shodan has detected, if I wasn't ratelimited...

[neon bramble]

You would need a pretty big botnet for that

[radiant oriole]

Minecraft is home to the biggest botnets historically lol

[neon bramble]

Possible? For sure
Is it worth it? Not at all

[neon bramble]

Downloading plugins from BSMC

[radiant oriole]

Not even that

[neon bramble]

something sometimes sneaks to spigot

that's why I only use open source plugins

[radiant oriole]

Just random PCs. Just this summer we had entire fucking datacenters being taken offline by a 2tbps volumetric SYN flood attack with a botnet operated by a Minecraft kid.

[neon bramble]

Okay then

[radiant oriole]

True story.

[neon bramble]

Seems like from a satire

[radiant oriole]

Yeah it seems like it. I’m dead serious.

[neon bramble]

I mean

I do believe it

How did it work?

[radiant oriole]

Bunch of paper staff were also involved in conversations about it. That’s why hypixel was taken down for so long over the summer.

They just sent a shitload of SYN packets to the routers of an internap datacenter and took the whole DC offline

[neon bramble]

I don't even remember that happening lol

[twin lagoon]

he's not lying

cloudflare has blog posts about it

[neon bramble]

But what did the botnet consist of?

Random PC's?

How did the PC's became infected?

[twin lagoon]

presumably iot stuff

https://blog.cloudflare.com/ddos-attack-trends-for-2021-q2/

but other minecraft servers were attacked aswell with reports over going above 1 terabit (but unable to measure above said number)