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ancient bolt
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for me at least the good news is half or more of these are totally unnecessary

magic river
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They're usually not allowed to modify the OTA streams though so you can look at those to see what you should be getting

ancient bolt
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Netflix, Hulu, HBO Max, and Disney+ cover nearly every base

magic river
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Look at local channel on cable, look at ESPN on cable, notice ESPN looks like shit

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Disney+ comes with Hulu

ancient bolt
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depends on the package you get right?

magic river
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Or rather it's cheaper to get the combo (and get ESPN) than to get them separate afaik

ancient bolt
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idk, I still have them separate but maybe I should look at that

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I get HBO Max through AT&T so that's cool I guess

magic river
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Same

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It took until they got rid of DirecTV for that to work though

ancient bolt
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basically, it's like cable all over again, but fuck I never want to go back to cable lol. A cheaper service aggregation service would be nice, but the UX of cable vs streaming just can't compare

magic river
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Their used to be a satellite on the plan then it was split off to a separate account but AT&T's HBO Max flow would tell me to go to the DirecTV one and then the DirecTV one would either tell me I didn't have an account with them or tell me to go to the AT&T one

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Oh yeah, cable and satellite never did figure out 4K either

warm anchor
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Nowaday I just see if I can pay per show on iTunes

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I don’t even have any sub aside from one comes with Amazon prime

void void
magic river
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TIL 7% of all the gold on the planet is in e-waste

waxen panther
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poggers

true canyon
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let's try to hit 10 by 2025! Go team!

left swift
ancient bolt
magic river
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I have 2 laptops in a box in my closet and the laptop from before those is still in my basement somewhere I think

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Someone always broke their phone though so I don't keep old phones for long

warm anchor
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Problem is recycling them is costly

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Unless you want to utilize labor without the care of health codes

left swift
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the best kind of labor

untold meadow
worn ember
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TIL folders created with mkdir/new-item in powershell dont show up in explorer kek

normal mountain
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Does anyone have FastAsyncWorldEdit and FastAsyncVoxelSniper for 1.16.5?

worn ember
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hm seems to load after refreshing

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windows moment

novel horizon
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DED, tbh, it works for me, lol

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Immediately shows up

magic river
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In q3 2021, Activision made $641MM, Blizzard $491MM, and King $652MM

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Forgot King was in there too

warm anchor
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@worn ember dragon blood book 2 Hype

magic river
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Oh hey Microsoft owns Zork now

worn ember
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will have to wait till next week though, still got some finals first

ashen cliff
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Thanks Google.

wide chasm
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They created an entire new language just for you /s

normal mountain
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What version Java does 1.17 support?

wide chasm
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Java 16 and higher

normal mountain
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On Java 17 it tells me ```
18.01 22:48:16 [Server] INFO Unsupported Java detected (61.0). Only up to Java 16 is supported.

golden gust
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update

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otherwise, read it 🤷‍♂️

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/see pins in paper-help

jade flax
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Does anyone here use a gigabit/10 gigabit network card?

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Upgraded my network to a gig because it was somehow cheaper than my old plan and I found out my mobo only does 100mb...

twin lagoon
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if your mobo only does 100mb you should consider getting a non-stoneage pc

golden gust
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Yea, that's, strange

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how old is that board? o.O

twin lagoon
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if your mobo only does 100mbit you'd literally have bigger problems than getting a 10gig card

jade flax
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I purchased it when I bought my 2700x.. around the time it came out

left swift
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get em michael

twin lagoon
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you should have 1gbit then

golden gust
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what mobo? o.O

jade flax
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That's what I thought

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one sec, let me find it

twin lagoon
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do you have cat5e cables

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and are you connected to a router with 1gbit

golden gust
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^ YOu are sure it's not a cable issue?

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do note that some shoddy ISP routers only have 100Mbps ports

jade flax
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twin lagoon
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that one has gigabit

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probably a cable issue or router

jade flax
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It most definitely isn't a cable, tested it on another computer and it has 980mbps down

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this one, a mere 95

golden gust
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checked the negotation settings?

topaz mortar
jade flax
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Hmm, very inconsistent

golden gust
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double check the link settings

topaz mortar
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It says gigabit, so see answers above.

jade flax
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Yeah, I'll check out the cable

twin lagoon
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doesn't have to be the cable

jade flax
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Definitely isn't the cable, I am using the same one that I have from the router to the switch

magic river
golden gust
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does the switch support gigabit? thonk

jade flax
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It is a gigabit switch lol

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actually, may even be 10gb, has a few SFP ports on it too

golden gust
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thing amar linked goes over what I was saying to check

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also has a driver thing too

ashen cliff
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INB4 cable issue.

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Force 1Gbps, if you can, watch it drop packets. kekwhyper

jade flax
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Tried both, no luck

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Also, In the bios it does state that it is in fact a 1gbps port, checked the link settings and it only allows me to choose auto, 100mbps or lesser values

warm anchor
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Make sure it’s the correct port. Some switch (although rare) may not have all ports with same speed

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Gotta be some ancient one though

magic river
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auto is what you want for an intel nic apparently

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You can't force 1gbps

jade flax
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Here’s the switch

magic river
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It's a smart switch, that means it has a webpage

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Maybe you can change something in there

spiral robin
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hi

warm anchor
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Hello aber I hope your day is ok today Pepelove

proud lance
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@jade flax did you reboot the switch after plugging in the cable to 10Gbps port?

merry talon
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Mine randomly re-negotiates down to 100mbit sometimes

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Have to disable and re enable the adapter to fix it

proud lance
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I had a managed cisco one that did that

jade flax
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It was, I am beginning to think it may be an issue with the cable behind the wall

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I replaced the one from my pc to the wall with another known cat5e cable, of which doesn't change anything

proud lance
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are the cables in the wall cat5e or higher?

jade flax
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yep

proud lance
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and going directly from the switch to the pc works right?

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without the wall one

jade flax
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That I cannot test

proud lance
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you could try a different computer through the wall one to see if you get the same result, but idk at that point

magic river
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What an awful take

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$70 billion and apparently this was 30% off compared to last summer, jeez

sullen jasper
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Cod gsand

jade flax
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Welp, the cat 6 cable in the wall is more than likely fucked

golden gust
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real cat6 or chinesium cat6?

jade flax
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real

warm anchor
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Just rerun yourself!

little frost
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is it electronic

true canyon
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@warm anchor

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@worn ember you too ^

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very proud

jade flax
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I would re-run it myself if that were easy, given it isn't a straight drop it'll be quite a task. I am considering just re-punching the cable on both ends and seeing where that gets me

warm anchor
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Orge round?

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Nice

novel horizon
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Damn, the thing for flying I tried didn't work 😦

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Not sure what to do to let people use fly only in residences and only for periods of time

true canyon
warm anchor
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Oh yeah that item and magic lamp are two of the best

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On act 1 and act 2 (magic lamp for doom NPC)

novel horizon
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Next time you'll get further hopefully ♥

warm anchor
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Have you try the meme hammer? @true canyon

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You can purchase the meteorite hammer used by OD boss from the room by search # in the shop. It costs $2050 with no stats unlike regular one but it has a super large aoe and a 10 second cooldown

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It made my tier 5 run like a child play

true canyon
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Oh god what.

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incredible

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Still trying to get two aghanims 😦

warm anchor
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It will show up as #dota_item_id_tooltip or some odd name like that but it cost $2050

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It will cause a massive lag for everyone in game for 1 second

true canyon
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Oh perfect.

warm anchor
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When you ping the item for first time sometimes outright crashes people OMEGALUL

novel horizon
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Sounds like Dota to me

true canyon
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Sounds like it's time to get that item!

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queues up for another game

novel horizon
warm anchor
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They’ve fixed so much glitches but that one they haven’t

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If you have 4 hammers all act 1 room is easy if everyone just time it correctly

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And avoid room with bkb enemy

true canyon
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Still missing these.

warm anchor
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Just do tier 1 to hunt them

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You can actually just solo queue and dodge teammate based on talent OMEGALUL

woven python
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Does anyone know of some sort of tool where you can send like logging and info notifications to your devices from various programs or bots you might have. Like I know people use Telegram and Discord for that, but is there not a service specifically for that?

peak ginkgo
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also, hey bud :p

woven python
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👋

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I know of pushbullet and I have used them before, but isn't their development quite stagnant? Like they still use the google+ logo

twin lagoon
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do you have an android phone?

woven python
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ye

twin lagoon
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oh it's ios too

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use pushover https://pushover.net/

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it is intended for exactly that

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dated website / app aswell but it works fine

ripe sphinx
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huh that's neat, maybe I should move my little prom alerts -> discord bridge over to that

true canyon
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@warm anchor

warm anchor
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Are you in game??

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Do they LITERALLY just fixed it today

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Wtf

true canyon
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😦

warm anchor
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It still worked yesterday when I played

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They don’t post patchnote for those you have to seek them in steamdb lol

true canyon
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qq

warm anchor
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Ok no more easy run lol

true canyon
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😦

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I always learn about stuff a day late

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Meanwhile they still haven't fixed the music bugs

woven python
true canyon
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mutters about where's his great big beautiful tomorrow

warm anchor
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Lol

true canyon
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whee radqop

warm anchor
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lol confirmed they fixed it today with cache release OMEGALUL @true canyon

true canyon
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😦

warm anchor
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they also nerf everything across from the entire game mode so it should be a lot easier now though

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General A new set of legacy combat encounters have been added for Act 1 at Magician and higher difficulties Surge ascension modifier move speed increase reduced from 50% to 40%, and the enemies can now be slowed Reduced base armor on many bosses and captains Reduced health and damage sensitivity of Toothy Toothums Reduced health regeneration of ...

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The following items are no longer purchasable from the main shop:
Creature Blade Mail
Outworld Meteorologist Meteor Hammer
Continuum Key

oof LOL

true canyon
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😦

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Fixed Bogdugg's Cudgel and Femur not working

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okay worth it

warm anchor
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just play Onimiknight

true canyon
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qop! :3

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but omni is good fun too

warm anchor
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get the 5 block talent, get lucky and get Ex Machina, get blademail, everytime boss is slamming the ground go under him. He will kill himself literally

true canyon
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Yeah I've done kill-the-boss strat with omni 😄

warm anchor
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works in high tier too PepeLa

true canyon
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solo'd for faaaaaaaar too long one time when my team all died.

warm anchor
void void
neat oyster
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e

magic river
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Neat, Minecraft was the #13 best selling game of 2021

void void
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huh, that's interesting

novel horizon
magic river
warm anchor
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I dont think that's how asking for permission works

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let us know if you dont want it

magic river
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I figured out why Microsoft bought ABK: they needed more people for Forza

cunning raft
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makes sense

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the team that is able to churn out a CoD game each year would be a great asset for MS

neat oyster
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but forza iz so gud

magic river
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For Activision and CoD it's true too, doesn't matter what the studio is known for or done recently, they're expected to pitch in to help with CoD

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You just rebooted Spyro for the modern era and everyone loved it? Great, come help with with the next season of Warzone

thorny totem
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Diablo 5 Microsoft Store Edition™️

serene bolt
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at least they stopped making everything microsoft store exclusive on PC and started doing releases on steam now

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still need the store for gamepass though

warm anchor
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Minecraft on Steam when phosdorime

void void
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auth servers being weird for anyone else lately

neat oyster
novel horizon
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Okay, idk what to do, is there literally no working plugin that lets people fly only in residences? PES_SadGe

neat oyster
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my dms are only this

novel horizon
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nice

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keeping inv, damn

neat oyster
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if i disable they spam my dms with PLS GIVE ITEMS BACK GOD

novel horizon
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🤷‍♂️

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how you "train" your players..

ripe sphinx
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Solution: Don't have DMs open

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Use a ticket, that way it doesn't send a ping w/ every messaage

novel horizon
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Or have better players

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Do you use offline mode?

neat oyster
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ima close dms in my server alone

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i also have suggestions channel still these kids man

novel horizon
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I don't have that much things going on, kinda decent i'd say

novel horizon
neat oyster
viscid wedge
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You should never be allowing players to fly only in portions of the map anyways

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either all or nothing

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same goes for which players are allowed to fly

neat oyster
novel horizon
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Unfortunately, idk how to do that, too much work to learn that for just that, and even then I would do it probably really inefficient etc.

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I found few res plugins, but they're all old, abandoned, basically not usable

viscid wedge
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cfr time

neat oyster
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master chef VS master chief

ripe sphinx
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@swift root

swift root
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omg

ripe sphinx
neat oyster
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@swift root hey , can u check out my contribution on open collective

swift root
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thanks for supporting the project, Orange

neat oyster
warm anchor
rare python
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Hello fellow nerds

neat oyster
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okay hello

rare python
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I have an exam starting in like 30 minutes

neat oyster
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what are u doing here then?

rare python
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Well I am waiting to be let in

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Which is extremely boring.

turbid lotus
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i wanna advertise server

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that have 3 members in year

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literally

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that leave

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fuck

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nobody cares

rugged tulip
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sweet baby rays

untold copper
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just got vaccinated bois

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my arm feels like shit

barren olive
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Hi

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Who plays fortnite

worn ember
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@warm anchor artillery coming in

warm anchor
magic river
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Fuck me it's cold

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Feels like -16 F (-27 C) right now

worn crest
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In germany is under minus 10 C not imaginable

magic river
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In Iowa we get the worst kind of all weather 😛

worn crest
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Lowa?

magic river
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Middle of the US

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Our most miserable days of summer are just considered normal for places like Houston or Miami though

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But we get tornadoes, we get extreme heat and humidity, we get floods, we get lots of snow, we get colds like the one above

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Only things we're missing are tsunamis, hurricanes, and earthquakes 😄

worn crest
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We had America weather conditions in geography a year ago cause on the coasts are mountains which prevents the clouds to move away or like that

worn crest
magic river
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The "mountains" on the east coast aren't much

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You usually bypass them entirely or don't realize they're mountains when you're driving past them

worn crest
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Thought west coast are the mountains

magic river
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West coast has the rockies, yeah, those are some serious mountains

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East coast ones are just somewhat large hills in comparison, mostly 😄

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The Appalachian Mountains, often called the Appalachians, are a system of mountains in eastern to northeastern North America. The Appalachians first formed roughly 480 million years ago during the Ordovician Period. They once reached elevations similar to those of the Alps and the Rocky Mountains before experiencing natural erosion. The Appalach...

untold copper
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oh no

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now i have a fever

magic river
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Sounds about right

worn crest
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Germany is all flatland :( not such nice mountains and stunning views

magic river
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Make sure you keep that arm moving otherwise it'll be stiff and feel bruised tomorrow

magic river
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As you can see it's just a bunch of flat nothing out as far as the camera can see 😄

worn crest
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Yeah, in Frankfurt there are more skyscraper and it's much larger 😅 but the view is stunning and the flying highways

magic river
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Frankfurt is only about twice the size, about a million people live where that picture is from

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It's all suburban and exurban sprawl though

wide chasm
magic river
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Netherlands is a bowl, no?

left swift
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bowl of rotten soup

wide chasm
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It's pretty flat, mostly at sea level, with some parts below sea level.

worn crest
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Hated the us city topic in geography, in Germany we have a city and that's it, Frankfurt has I guess 700k people but is I think much larger

wide chasm
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But the parts below sea level don't go much lower than 5 meters or so

magic river
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Yeah the definition of a city in the US is complicated

worn crest
wide chasm
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Only in the very South can you get into, what to me look like, enormous mountains of ~300 meters max

worn crest
magic river
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Technically all those suburbs are different towns with their own governments and such but even the people living there usually don't care about them and just think of themselves as living in the city

vernal moth
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I don't

worn crest
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Yeah and in Germany are big city's and city's and such little towns which are often in Bayern and around Berlin

worn crest
vernal moth
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what about it?

worn crest
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A place where nobody wants to live but is big.

vernal moth
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germany has like 80 big cities (>100k people) and 13 additional because of weird counting

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3 with 1> million and 15 with > 500k

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and most of them are in my state

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cause my state best state

worn crest
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Industry state

vernal moth
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not exclusively

magic river
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Where I live we never broke 100k and the population has been more or less flat since like 1950

wide chasm
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My town has about 80k people I believe

magic river
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Same

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1940, my bad 😄

left swift
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amaranth been around since the 40s

wide chasm
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77 885 people here apparently

golden gust
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The trick for growth in population is to be a council estate city

wide chasm
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(On 1 January 2021)

golden gust
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#PopOutAnotherBenefitsPackage

magic river
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For a minute there people thought this city was going to be a big thing like St Louis but I think airplanes killed that

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The big thing was being a rail hub

left swift
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kinky

magic river
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We're on a couple rivers, have/had a lot of rail infrastructure, etc so it seemed like we'd be a shipping hub for the region or something

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Airplanes and interstates meant no one cares about rail or barge anymore

golden gust
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gotta get that next day

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I used to live in an industrial town, like, my great grandma used to work in the mills when she was young so I was told, and like, back then it was a pretty thriving town, was the first part of the new highways, etc, like, it was a good contendor for the what's called the M6 corridor, which is basically where many post industrial towns sit along that one stretch of highway

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we used to have some good firms there, my grandfather used to be a chief electrical engineer for dorman smith, which was a fairly large company doing switchgear around the place, and many other industrial firms around there all connected to the M6, but, over the years, especially as stuff started to move abroad, the place started to fall into a shitshow, pretty much is council estate after council estate in some areas

magic river
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TIL Omaha was started my Mormons

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Well, Council Bluffs on the Iowa side of the river was and then people from there later crossed the river and staked a claim while waiting for the US to kick the natives out and open the area to settlement...

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Council Bluffs was the starting point of the Mormon trail, apparently to California but I guess they got lost along they way and stopped in Utah? 😄

golden gust
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"yea, we'll just, have a stop here for a few minutes"

magic river
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but yeah, Sioux City (where I am) at this point I think only exists due to meat packing plants and spite

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Omaha is the one that made it

golden gust
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many joys though, really

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Like, theres many dozens towns and cities around the world which are fucked which need investment, etc

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But, at the same point, if a company like google moved in, it would cause a lot of stir in those towns and just fuck over everybody still there anyways

magic river
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Over here at least it would be less investment and more tearing the city down and starting over

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Unless you just want to pour good money after bad

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We have too much infrastructure and not enough money to maintain it

golden gust
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everybody I knew in preston lived in houses owned by the housing association, there where ofc areas where people owned their own houses but, the housing agencies snapped up the houses around them over the years, like my ggrandfather lived in a house which he bought in a good estate but the entire place went to shit more or less over the few decades that he lived there

magic river
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Iowa has a grid of paved roads every few miles across the whole state, it's insane

golden gust
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and yea, that's the issue is all these towns fuel upon around industries which then fizzle out and the city for some reason just doesn't attract new investments, for us its a country wide issue where the northern half was like the industrial centre, even places like the BBC had buildings down this half of the country outside of the flashy london area to get the techies for building props, etc, scotland was a good place for that, etc

magic river
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Counties and cities around them are expected to pay for maintenance of those

golden gust
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but, the joy is that much of the stuff has miniturused, everything standardised, etc

magic river
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And then the cities are full of boulevards and parking lots and suburbs so even more road to maintain

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And the sprawl of the suburbs means more water and sewer to maintain

golden gust
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what used to be a whole group of people building industrial switchboards is now basically left to a few dozen firms left in the UK offering stuff which was stamped out or whatever abroad, so, the entire north is basically slowly falling apart where the only thing to replace those jobs on that scale is basically "office work" of tech people, whom end up moving south for the financial centre

magic river
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Suburbs are not self-sustaining, they only work if the county or state can subsidize them which only happens if they're supporting some prosperous area

left swift
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no politics

magic river
left swift
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D:

golden gust
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yea, that's the joy

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and as stuff moves away, you just end up with carcuses left behind

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people hoped that the financial tech boom would spread across the UK, but, most of what has spread is the dev offices of firms based in london

magic river
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If you want to look at it politically one group basically sticks their head in the sand and insists they can make the old system keep working or work like it used to while the other is happy to move to the cities that still work and ignore those places or pity the people there for not moving too

golden gust
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yup

magic river
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Either way you're not fixing the problem so these places just rot

golden gust
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It's the joy we have over here, our "fix stuff" party loves to try to fuel investment, they where redoing the city centre from where I was born

magic river
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Fixing the problem probably involves tearing down a lot of these places entirely though and major changes to the ones that are left

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Which no one is going to support

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So... fuck 'em, I guess?

golden gust
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and it's like, the city center looking prettier isn't gonna magically bring new firms in, you're just making the place prettier with cash you don't really have

magic river
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Yep

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Oh, we can't afford maintaining the infrastructure we already have? Lets widen the main road through the city and put in greenery in the frontage to make it look nice

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Ok, but why does some trees encourage companies to open offices there?

worn ember
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Trees good

magic river
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What they should have spent that money on is subsidizing some mixed use buildings, like apartments with shops in the ground floor and such

worn ember
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You're expecting reasonable solutions from incompetent people

golden gust
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mixed used buildings to fix the housing shortages which come up in these areas

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investment into education to allow people to create businesses and maybe encourage firms to consider your place as the new booming area for picking up graduates and helping fuel new jobs, etc

left swift
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trees bad

magic river
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But no, the real answer is obviously more roads

golden gust
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😄

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I don't think it's incompetence

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I think it's intentional

magic river
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In the US I think some of it is an institutional failure

golden gust
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thing is that people are too stupid, they're actually got it in their mind that making the city center prettier will attract new companies in an area which doesn't have the people with brains to do stuff

magic river
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People thought building stuff like that was why they were booming economically

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So everyone had to build like that and were taught about how great it is and such

golden gust
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Like, we're in the tech era

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either you work in tech or you service those that do, more or less

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if your area doesn't have a booming financial or tech market or fit in some niche which, what is often tech/financial firms need, you're doomed

magic river
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Software ate the world

wet storm
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Same problem in russia, moscow has a really big agglomeration around it, because it is a politics center, where most of the firms are registered, all of the money from all other places in russia goes to moscow, because all these "other" places needed only due to resources that they have. (Oil, gas etc.) And for bigger amounts of resources firms that extract oil/gas make nearby cities look horrible. And I think there is no chance that this ever change and russian tech firms will migrate to other cities

golden gust
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thing is that you need to offer firms a reason to invest the cash to open up there

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given that software based firms are the easiest ones to attract vs the large industrial players which still remain, you need a budding tech area and a sizable number of grads

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when I left preston in 2015, there wasn't even a computer science program there

cunning raft
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US goes to sleep

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And core team brings politics to general

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stg cat

left swift
golden gust
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didn't really seem entirely political, just, facts of life

cunning raft
#

I'm confiscating your rug

golden gust
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I'll shit on your instead then

magic river
#

The solutions are political, the problem isn't

limber knotBOT
#

btw cat because you mentioned that a couple days ago: I improved WhatPlugin now to directly use the command map (via paper's api) so it should show vanilla/server commands now as well ;D

left swift
#

papergun no fun papergun no politics papergun no memes papergun no friends papergun no talking paperPls papermc 3.0

neat oyster
#

is that irc

cunning raft
#

yes

limber knotBOT
#

🤖no, just us robots

golden gust
#

You're missing custom plugin command classes

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should get the command class and check the classloader to see if its a plugins

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otherwise that won't work with stuff like ACF i think?

limber knotBOT
#

ah, good idea

left swift
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archive IRC

limber knotBOT
#

well, I think they would just show up as general server commands

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but yeah, checking the classloader makes sense

left swift
#

brocc been getting groceries forever now I dont think hes coming back

magic river
#

huh, at this point if you use irccloud with other irccloud users it probably feels like slack

magic river
#

And you can have a secret conversation via things like reactions that normal IRC users can't even see

golden gust
#

my fathers gonna be coming back with a packet of ciggies any second now

left swift
#

veggidaddy

magic river
#

ah, drawn together

golden gust
#

honestly never watched it :L

magic river
#

If they didn't find a way to offend every viewer in each episode it was considered a failure 😄

golden gust
#

was just a clip me and a few buddies used to laugh over being that all of us where from shitty areas and I don't think any of us had our sperm donors around anymore 😄

magic river
#

Pretty much every single thing you aren't supposed to do/say they did for a bit

left swift
#

all I know is the person who voiced numba 5 from KND voiced the fox chick on that show

golden gust
#

jesus, the character list, lol

magic river
#

shock comedy, that's the term

golden gust
#

"Critical reception"

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critics complained tf about it for various reasons

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ends up in TV guides top 60 cartoons of all times

magic river
#

TIL Panty & Stocking with Garterbelt was inspired by it

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Although now that I think about it that totally makes sense

golden gust
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I was 10 when drawn together came out

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jesus

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with the tv license kafuffle over the past while in the UK, it's been kinda interesting, especial for a council estater

left swift
#

u need a license to watch tv

limber knotBOT
#

probably the same thing as in germany where the public tv "tax" can't be a tax in order for the publically funded TV stations to still be free from state influence

magic river
#

Do you still have that company that acts like they're the police but in reality have no power to do anything?

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The ones that try to shake you down for TV license fees

golden gust
#

Like, i remember the days of 5 channels, and then we got cable (somewhat late in the scope of things being we where close to breadline for a few years before we got there), and then post that, I kinda stopped watching, i then came to uni and the odd netflix thing people watched once a week was turning into netflix for everything

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the firm which harasses OAPs with dementia and shit? yea

left swift
#

sheesh

golden gust
#

ofc

left swift
#

ur old cat

true canyon
#

Hello. I would like to buy a fish license, please.

golden gust
#

we have those too

magic river
#

Denied

golden gust
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The thing is that the publically funded tv station is not really free from state influence

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costs 159 a year, and the primary people who get fucked over non payment are single mothers on the breadline

limber knotBOT
#

I mean nothing is, they can't just broadcast illegal shit lol

golden gust
#

like that stopped them

limber knotBOT
#

god I hate stores that close on 2:30pm on a weekday -.-

golden gust
#

they literally defended honary members of the cathlic church for a few decades too

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Now, heres the best part

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Do you watch any BBC shows abroad?

limber knotBOT
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I don't watch tv

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no idea why they even bother doing tv anymore tbh

golden gust
#

Well, the joy here is that people praise the BBC for their worldwide coverage and shit

limber knotBOT
#

runs

neat oyster
golden gust
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the joy is that pretty much any TV show you watch abroad from the BBC was produced directly from taxpayer funds, either commesioned directly by the BBC or through their commercial wing

limber knotBOT
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(ok technically I still watch publically funded media programs via internet streams but they aren't really classic "TV" ¯_(ツ)_/¯)

golden gust
#

So, we pay for a show to be made, people watch it, then it basically ends up in the commercial wings hands and then they go sell it around the world and take the profits

limber knotBOT
#

the insane thing in Germany is: The ARD (main public TV station network) is starting to put publically funded content on pay-to-view streaming platforms like amazon thonk

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but we already paid for it lol

golden gust
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I do wish that we'd fund some core services like bbc news, cbbebies, etc, which just ain't super nice to justify losing

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but, the concept of paying for a company which told you to essentially piss of, you're not their target market, is an insult

limber knotBOT
#

I mean I don't think the money that they get from the public is nearly enough to actually fund all those productions as well as permanent broadcasting licenses so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

golden gust
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the only place in which the BBC isn't a 100% commercial entity is the UK

limber knotBOT
#

I can kinda understand it but it still sucks that publically produced content doesn't go into public domain/creative commons/something similar. But I'm doing my part in the political process to change that at least in Germany so 👀

golden gust
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but, even there, they sill their stuff off platforms like britbox, dave TV which they own, etc

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part of the joy is that they've just fobbed off so many people, and when the whole world is moving away from live TV, it makes you question, what's the long term plan

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Like, I'm sure everybody in here almost remembers the days of running your ass home from somewhere to watch a show you really wanted to watch when it first aired rather than having to watch it later in the week

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to then having a DVR or the means to magically watch it whenever you wanted

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to the modern data where literally everything is on a platform with too much choice for you to pick from

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the modrn day

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I feel ill, so, enjoy death brain

limber knotBOT
#

does the BBC not have some kind of online platform where you can watch their content for free for a while after "airing"?

golden gust
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"yes"

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you still need a tv license to watch it, stuff is often only there for 30 days or whatever

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so, if you wanna watch any classes you paid for, you've gotta pay for a box set

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wooo

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classics*

limber knotBOT
#

wait, they actually check the license online?

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or is that just a legal thing?

golden gust
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kinda

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they where working to crack down on it

waxen panther
#

you put your postcode in now

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but i dont think they actually check

golden gust
#

people have gotten letters in the post about being suspected of iPlayer usage

limber knotBOT
#

in Germany they just assume that everyone has it as basically everyone has to pay for it who has access to either TV or internet lol

#

not sure why they don't just go that route in the UK lol

golden gust
#

which, puts this weird area where maybe they are doing some form of monitoring, but, i mean, maybe they're playing their usual bully tactics

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because that's a huge tax on bills

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like, that's 160 a year

hot badge
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who actually buy's tv licenses anyways?

waxen panther
#

adults

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🙂

hot badge
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XD

golden gust
#

and the BBC hemorages cash like white powder in a parlimentary bathroom

limber knotBOT
#

it's 220€/year in Germany 👀

golden gust
#

bearing in mind that the only people who this really impacts are those who are mostly choosing between food in the cupboard and the heating

hot badge
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don't want to promote illegal activity... but there are more websites out there that host most if not all tv shows for free...

limber knotBOT
#

RealName_123: that doesn't change the fact that you are most likely being forced to pay what is essentially a tax anyways

waxen panther
#

i dont want to promote illegal activity... proceeds to promote illegal activity

golden gust
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as somebody who trailed close towards the bread line before being on it for a few years, like, you know

golden gust
#

it's a huge issue

waxen panther
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how old are you realname, out of curiosity

waxen panther
hot badge
limber knotBOT
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in Germany the only way around is to get exempt because you are poor, a studend or simply still live "at home"

hot badge
#

f responded to the wrong message

golden gust
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there is no exceptions outside of certain benefits

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being poor is not a reason to not pay

limber knotBOT
#

oof

golden gust
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that's part of the stupidity of it and why I'm against it, outside of the fact that terrestrial TV is dead

hot badge
golden gust
#

don't mention

waxen panther
#

??

golden gust
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I already don't pay

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but, I also don't watch live TV, so it literally doesn't impact me

hot badge
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i think tv is getting old as people are watching more movies etc... and only old people watch things like eastenders or the history channel

waxen panther
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mine is handled by my rent, i use the radio when im driving so technically i still need it pepela

golden gust
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don't need a TV license for that

waxen panther
#

you do for the bbc channels

golden gust
#

nope

waxen panther
#

or you're supposed to at least

wet storm
golden gust
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if you're using their services, I support chipping into them

left swift
#

uk is so dumb

golden gust
#

but you are not legally required to have a TV license for listening to BBC radio

true canyon
#

I have a cat license, for my pet cat Eric

golden gust
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do note that many people are confused around aspects of when/where a TV license is required

limber knotBOT
#

at least in the UK you don't have to get the license if you don't use the services, in Germany it's a given that you use the service as everyone has TV or at least internet access, right? LUL

golden gust
#

from their own documentation, you'd think that they where confused too

proud lance
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Oi oi you got a loicense for that cat

golden gust
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I mean, if you watch live streams, etc, you need a license

hot badge
#

I would love to get into trouble just to hear the officer say oi oi

golden gust
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like, the only reason many people need TV licenses these days at least in my cohort is for watching sports

proud lance
#

Go outdoors in the UK with a butter knife

hot badge
limber knotBOT
#

just watch eSport instead thinksmart

left swift
#

they shit into a fan?

hot badge
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but it's confusing as i know most people that carry knifes in the uk

golden gust
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idk anybody that carries a knife whom isn't a tradie or a criminal

left swift
#

esports phoenix

proud lance
#

Was that a real thing a while back where they posted pics of the items they confiscated and one was a really long pencil?

golden gust
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Yes

proud lance
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I have one for boxes

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How am I supposed to open my boxes in the UK without being a criminal

golden gust
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Like, the police actually thinks that they're doing the country a good service by booking tradies who forgot they had their work knife clipped to their belt

left swift
#

u missed the part where he said tradie OR criminal

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only reading what you want to read

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typical smh

proud lance
#

Well yeah cause I'm a criminal

magic river
#

If they're charging you for iPlayer why can't they charge me and let me use it? 😛

golden gust
#

Well, I mean, outside of the house

proud lance
#

I rub my Minecraft server in offline mode

golden gust
#

Because it's the BBC

proud lance
#

Rub*

golden gust
#

they're pissing useless

proud lance
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Run

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Wtf why is rub autocorrect

golden gust
#

instead they license stuff out towards netflix, etc

magic river
golden gust
#

because they're allowed to do commercial ops outside of the UK, as well as them having their commercial wing for everything else

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yup, which is also a service in the UK by the commercial wing

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the BBC

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who does not want to be a commercial subscription service

proud lance
#

Britbox is what I would imagine retired old people watch on the telly

golden gust
#

LITERALLY RUNS A COMMERCIAL SUBSCRIPTION SERVICE

left swift
#

stop yelling cat

golden gust
#

but, I mean, it's fun

#

both eastenders and I think corrination street redid their sets recently

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the BBCs literally costed a multiple of factors more than the commercial providers stuff

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cos they have to actually care about money in order to make a profit, they don't sploge cash up the wall

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the recent trend for when people are reporting on how much cash the BBC wasted on is to say how many license fees they just spaffed up the wall

magic river
#

Wow the RX 6500 XT is kind of trash

#

It costs as much as the RX 580 from 2017 and is around the same compute performance but has less memory bandwidth and no video encoding

#

It has some shitty ray tracing support though! 😄

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Uses less than half the power though so I guess that's a win

ashen cliff
#

🗑️

lament patio
#

Yep, unfortunately the best feature rn is being in stock

ashen cliff
#

So.
R9 290 4Gb is still the best card ever made by AMD?

magic river
#

Are they in stock?

ashen cliff
#

No idea.

magic river
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I meant the 6500 XT

ashen cliff
#

Probably not.

#

Buys 290 4GB.
Unlocks to 8GB.
Unlocks to 290X.
Unlocks to 390X.
kekwhyper

magic river
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3050 comes out in a week, is only $50 more, and is better in every way

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But you won't be able to buy it either 😛

ashen cliff
#

Oh cool. One is already on eBay for 550 USD.

true canyon
#

evga queue!

ashen cliff
#

Still waiting after 2 years?

magic river
#

You'd be better off getting something from 4-6 years ago than getting a 6500 XT

#

I wonder if any of their board partners will bother to make a version that is downclocked a little so it fits in the 75W budget for PCIe

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They could make a single slot card that doesn't need a power plug

true canyon
#

Everything I queued for has come up in evga queue except one 3080.

#

Their new priority thing will be interesting, and should help folks get cards.

magic river
#

Is it like the newegg queue where you have to buy a random $250 mobo too?

ashen cliff
#

If EVGA made you buy one of their mobos with the GPU... you would be broke twice over. kekwhyper

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Or one of their soundcards kekwhyper

true canyon
#

No, evga queue is just getting in line to buy a card. Just card. 🙂

#

And it's not a lottery, it's just a line with a notification and a big window (something like 8 hours) to buy

golden gust
#

weren't they the ones selling the dud PSUs?

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and, came in a combo with a GPU which was the main selling point for them

ashen cliff
#

That would be Gigabyte + NewEgg.

golden gust
#

ah, yea

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nvm then

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but, boy is this a fun time to just sit back and watch

true canyon
#

EVGA has been great throughout this awful shortage.

ashen cliff
#

There is a reason for that. kekwhyper

true canyon
#

What's that reason, krusic? 🤔

#

Is it that it's easy to be great when other folks are building self-destructing devices? 😄

ashen cliff
#

They are Nvidias star child aka. they get stuff first and certain chips that no one else gets.
Like the KO chips.

twin rover
#

Ñ

ashen cliff
#

Back in the 900 and 1000 days, they used to swap memory chips.
AFAIK. they were the only company that got just Nvidia chips without them being bounded with memory.
The others got chips + memory.

twin rover
#

what is Ñ?

true canyon
#

Oh man my weekly nextdoor browse is going hilariously well. Big thread complaining about jerks being rude to grocery store employees. Some jackass comments "I'll be nice once I hear a 'thank you' - whatever happened to training?" It's amazing how some awful people gleefully expose their true selves to the world!

golden gust
#

meanwhile in the UK saying please and thank you is so ingrained that it just feels like such a dishonest thing

#

like, I hate it, and idk if it's cos am one of those "special needs" people or if it's just that bad

#

like, those phrases are just so automatic to me these days that, while I do respect the work that people put in at local stores, etc, it just feels so unauthentic

neat oyster
#

when the same rtx 2060 you bought is 3x the price now DogAngery

spare venture
#

intel is building a $20 billion semiconductor factory in columbus, oh. nice

magic river
#

jeez, our cable bill is $260 and only $105 of that is internet

spare venture
#

$105 for internet is criminal

magic river
#

And we just have basic cable TV

spare venture
#

any $ for cable is also criminal

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so glad streaming has completely removed the need for it

#

pay a fraction for it and no commercials

left swift
#

I pay about 100 for 1gb

magic river
#

I basically never use it, only use I get is when I use the login to look at some news channel stream when there is some big event happening

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$105 gets me 200/20 with no cap

warm anchor
#

That’s a big oof

left swift
#

data caps Madge

quasi valley
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and I thought I was being scammed

magic river
#

1000/50 with no cap would be $165

left swift
#

I think mines 1000/300

golden gust
#

what's fun is the bundles

spare venture
#

xfinity is a scam

magic river
#

I need to move to Kansas City or something

spare venture
#

move to columbus it’s like $45 for gigabit

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there’s 4 major ISPs so there’s competition

magic river
#

Yeah but then I'd live in Ohio

spare venture
#

yeah tru

left swift
#

lol

golden gust
#

So, I have an 18 month contract in which I pay X amount, past that I go onto the standard rate, so, the goal is to always be in contract at the cost of like, being in a contract

warm anchor
#

Anywhere in US once you are outside of urban area in old neighborhood you are shit outta luck pretty much

magic river
#

People are so desperate to get away from Ohio they'll go to space on rockets more likely to kill them than work

golden gust
#

prior to them fucking up my account and giving me a discount, in-contract, it was actually cheaper to have broadband and phone rather than just having broadband

warm anchor
#

You are stuck with cables that’s done decades ago and was really meant for “tv signals”

spare venture
#

i’m in seattle and i pay $85 for 400MB with a 1.2TB datacap

true canyon
#

45/mo 100/100 but they're offering 200/200 for the same to new customers 😦

spare venture
#

so that’s not necessarily true eternity

warm anchor
#

I say urban inner city also sucks

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Lol

magic river
#

For $125 I could get 1000/50 with a 1.5TB cap

golden gust
#

I mean, it's coax

warm anchor
#

I got $80 for 1000/1000 fiber no cap

spare venture
#

it all comes down to competition

golden gust
#

Like, coax is generally fine for dealing with those signals

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the issue though in part is the age of the stuff where it's starting to get crispy and break down

magic river
#

Coax is plenty so long as they do fiber to the node

spare venture
#

getting 400/10 also sucks, wouldn’t mind 400/400

golden gust
#

much stuff these days is ^

magic river
#

DOCSIS 4.0 can do 10Gbps down and 6Gbps up on coax

spare venture
#

also data caps should be illegal what the fuck there isn’t an electricity cap or water cap (this is a dumb comparison)

warm anchor
#

Home owner DIY PROJECT

magic river
#

DOCSIS 3.1 can only do 10/1 but in reality is usually only 1/1 or 2/1

golden gust
#

well, signal splitter ain't entirely needed

spare venture
#

it’s not like using 1.3 tb costs those fuckers any more than 1.2

magic river
#

Err, you pay for electricity and water based on how much you use

spare venture
#

yeah reread my message

golden gust
#

you need something to split the coax anyways into 2 cables, it just makes sense to protect from backfeeds while you're there

magic river
#

With a small fee for maintaining the grid so they have a price floor for keeping you hooked up

golden gust
#

bandwidth isn't free

magic river
#

Transfer is kind of free

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Actual bandwidth isn't, no

golden gust
#

there is the free bandwidth alliance thing, but, you pay at the point of transfer for stuff cos they've gotta pay for all the equipment, etc

#

Like, think of how huge companies like L3 are and the amount of fibre they have to look after

warm anchor
#

I think it really depends. Coz if there are competitors, they can magically drop prices

spare venture
#

they’re already limiting bandwidth tho

golden gust
#

ofc, that's all generally done through contracts, etc, but theres many factors involved

meager tusk
#

Ok eternity

warm anchor
#

So I doubt the cost isn’t already factored in by a mile

magic river
#

It costs them more for a 100Gbps hook up vs a 10Gbps hook up but after that they probably don't pay based on how much data goes over those connections

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They make others pay them though

golden gust
#

well, yea, that's part of the joy is who knows exactly how it's all priced

spare venture
#

like i pay for 400mv i should be able to use 400mb 24/7 for that whole month

golden gust
#

Like, you have places like OVH which have their own networks where unlimited bandwidth is the norm

magic river
#

By others I mean Google, Cloudflare, Cogent, etc

golden gust
#

but, then pretty much everywhere else gives you like 10TB of transfer and anything over that you pay for

spare venture
#

oh wools

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whoops

golden gust
#

issue is that the entire network backbone is not designed for people running at full pelt

#

the costs ain't worth it for ISPs

magic river
#

If you wanted to be able to use 400 24/7 you should have done a business plan

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You know, the ones that are like $1000/mo

golden gust
#

they know that most people buying a gigabit connection aren't even gonna be using a 10th of that most of the time, and so you're gonna be sharing capacity with others

warm anchor
#

Business plan also is paying for SLA

golden gust
#

100% of the people on that node using their full plan would be over what an individual node can allow, but, that's pretty much never the case

warm anchor
#

And not all resential address they would acccept

true canyon
#

Oh that's fun, just looked into it. If I want to upgrade I can pay 120/mo for 200/200, more than doubling what I currently pay, meanwhile new customers can get that for 40/mo and never end up that high even after the first year. NICE.

magic river
#

Right, the setups where you can and are expected to use 100% of the connection 24/7 are dedicated fiber hook ups

neat oyster
#

OVH is very susi

golden gust
#

my birth giver used to game disconnections

neat oyster
#

it asks u very personal documents

magic river
#

Right what you do is call them up and say you want to get on the plan new people get or you want to cancel

spare venture
golden gust
#

like, she worked out when their "discounts" that they could offer reset, called them up some time before they transferred over to india for the night, and so she'd weasel out some good deals

spare venture
golden gust
#

they ask for ID

#

which is there to protect the network

warm anchor
true canyon
neat oyster
#

but their competetors dont

golden gust
#

Yes, they do

true canyon
#

OVH will sometimes demand photo ID

neat oyster
#

also delivery times are longer

warm anchor
#

They really don’t for me. All thing considered they think my real name is eternity eternity OMEGALUL

golden gust
#

the more costly hosts will generally monitor and spot stuff less because they're not as vulnerable as a cheapo host like OVH

#

I worked in that area for years

spare venture
warm anchor
#

I guess I am already paying with a credit card so they still do have my real info

golden gust
#

we used to resell on a fairly nice deal from colocrossing and phoenixnap that we weren't too far above what OVH was offering price wise

#

we once got an order for like 2 machines with "more if they're happy"

neat oyster
golden gust
#

turned out that the dude who was in charge of that stuff wasn't vetting them

#

we ended up getting a machine suspended as they where using it for spamming and spamhaus flagged it

warm anchor
spare venture
#

if i ran ovh i would require ID for all customers

warm anchor
#

They never ask for my ID

spare venture
#

cant sue a kid so why would you want to let them rent your shit

golden gust
#

bearing in mind that they where pretty active around it because at that point the scammers where heavily targeting resellers of those services

neat oyster
#

they are like spigot ig grandfathering rules

warm anchor
#

Probably yeah

#

I got my dedi years ago

golden gust
#

I mean, it's risk based

#

if you're from a low risk company and have a good account with them, you're less likely to be flagged for ID

warm anchor
#

I pay over $100 a month though less chance to be a troll tbf

golden gust
#

country*

neat oyster
#

i tried to buy on dec 2021

golden gust
#

card changes, or new accounts especially from certain countries, are more likely to be flagged for needing ID

spare venture
#

do they require ID for their contract term rentals

#

i would imagine

golden gust
#

bearing in mind that allowing spammers onto the network can impact your host drastically

#

colocrossing literally got their entir ASN blacklisted from spamhaus

magic river
warm anchor
#

I didn’t even agree to all of them. When I clicked on that thing on panel. Still shows two of them I never agreed. Shown as pending for a year now

#

@spare venture

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Lol

neat oyster
#

BTW they didnt even ask for id i was stuck at proccesing info for 5 days

warm anchor
#

I don’t think they really care as long as bill is paid

spare venture
#

yeah eternity for 6 months their panel just stopped charging me

warm anchor
#

LOL

spare venture
#

and i know how to reproduce it

#

they did not fix it.

tidal valve
#

who needs a private way to hack mine accounts, write to the bos (I say paid right away), but I can show and tell you how it works before buying

neat oyster
#

then i jus canceled (no cancel option) had to open a ticket

spare venture
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i reported it to them and paid the 6 months balance but i could have just walked away

spare venture
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@ mods

waxen panther
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based amaranth

spare venture
#

weasel

austere barn
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How can devs put a left motd? Is it even possible this?

lament patio
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Spaces?

wide chasm
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That shouldn't be possible

spare venture
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lmao

austere barn
#

well it recalls that it's possible

spare venture
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link tour source.

austere barn
#

it's not mine

twin lagoon
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it's possible

spare venture
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of course it’s closed source

twin lagoon
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you can do this with server list plus

austere barn
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didn't think it had this function slp

spare venture
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lmao

golden gust
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it just overflows the text

true canyon
#

Holy cow this plugin

golden gust
#

probs stupid amounts of whitespace in the version info

true canyon
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Starting from this update plugin needs internet connection to work. If you disabled it, AdvancedNMotd will only run if your server online is <6 (5, 4, 3, 2, 1 or 0 playes playing). In every case plugin will send a message to console that will tell what is wrong.

wide chasm
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I fucking hate unicode

true canyon
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If you run a beta version, plugin will run if your online is <6. Otherwise, it will be deactivated. In both cases plugin will send an approporiate console message and will not be activated. Currently, there is no way to get a legal beta version.

spare venture
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oh they have negative width chars? i’ve been using my own added from my resource pack

true canyon
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If version you use is outdated but still supported, plugin will run and will be activated, but a message in console will appear that will tell you to update to a newer version. Remember, that if you do not update plugin for a long time, one day it will be deactivated.

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This person learned a very weird lesson from "some users want support on outdated versions"

warm anchor
void void
magic river
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That's not quite how that works

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Although I've threatened it a few times in the past since I could turn around and DMCA their original plugin if they tried to DMCA my git repo

golden gust
#

their violation of a license doesn't validate your violation of their license

wide chasm
#

But my rights!

neat oyster
#

do u need to have a bot in a server to use irc?

true canyon
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Can confirm, plugin shuts down without internet access and more than 5 players reported online. Incredible.

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It's kind enough to just self disable and not murder everything.

warm anchor
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lol

void void
neat oyster
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Oh ok

warm anchor
true canyon
#

If mockapi.io goes offline, all this plugin's users stop being able to use it 🤣

spare venture
#

just use ubuntu

golden gust
#

they're pretty much all the same with minor differences

spare venture
#

generally if you have to ask that question, ubuntu

golden gust
#

nobody cares about idle ram usage for a server given you're not running a DE, etc

#

just use something debian based or rolling release if you must

neat oyster
#

is using pterodactyle auto insaller bad

warm anchor
#

I wish 1.8 server would do that

left swift
#

pterodactyl auto installers are trash

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the docs aren't hard to follow

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granted if you have a brain

ashen cliff
neat oyster
golden gust
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i kinda hope that ptero gets their docker image stuff working and "prod ready"

neat oyster
#

idk why ptero so complex

left swift
#

its ot

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not

golden gust
#

it's not really

left swift
#

it's a you problem

neat oyster
#

maybe

golden gust
#

they just don't ship a clean package which is required everywhere else

warm anchor
#

Screen gang rieagent

golden gust
#

they could easily aim to package the thing out in a way which makes it easy to setup

#

many docker management things literally run in docker itself

left swift
#

can you let other users access a screen eternity

warm anchor
#

I didn’t know paper terminal supposed to have color until recently OMEGALUL

golden gust
#

mfw

void void
golden gust
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they have beta images for it last I knew

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but, it's not the recommended nor supported way to deploy

warm anchor
#

For people with ssh access you can let them su into the user session @left swift

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For rest of the stuff, we use essentialsx discord

golden gust
#

you can share screens without su

left swift
#

kinda cringe

golden gust
#

screen already supports that, you've just gotta set it up

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then you've got the horrors of file perms

neat oyster
#

only reason i want to switch to ptero is that puffer crashes a lot

golden gust
#

in which case you'd often just have a shared FTP account or you get into the horrors of ACLs

warm anchor
#

Yeah I just have a dedicated user for MC to avoid file perm lol

void void
#

just run everything as root, that way tou won't have file perm issues! thinksmart

left swift
#

using panel nicer even for small setups

golden gust
#

pros and cons, really

warm anchor
#

I like it simple

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Also stone age

golden gust
#

using a panel saves you from dealing with the setting up of tryna get a sane multi-user env

left swift
#

stone

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shut up kenny

quasi valley
golden gust
#

.kneny

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oh, wait, no

quasi valley
#

HAH

left swift
#

simple come back

golden gust
#

here

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.kneny

limber knotBOT
golden gust
#

:3

quasi valley
#

.cat

limber knotBOT
golden gust
#

bot! ban!

quasi valley
#

I cen do dat, too

neat oyster
#

i have the best banner

#

||eternity||

neat oyster
#

bad darkeye bad

lament patio
#

I personally just chmod 777 -R /

worn ember
void void
#

New snapshot 👀

quasi valley
#

log4j is gone pepela

worn ember
#

Lmao

golden gust
#

wut

void void
#

wait wat

worn ember
#

Logging is no more : 🦀

void void
#

am still updating my decompiled source, no spoilers pls pepela

hexed dragon
quasi valley
#

or, at least all usages replaced with slf4j and getting the logger is wrapped in some Mojang class

twin lagoon
golden gust
#

yea, somebody dropped a small amount of info around the changes in that majestical server

#

^

foggy veldt
#

Does this mean Plugin.getLog4JLogger is getting yeeted soon

mossy vessel
#

No, SLF4J is just a logging facade, not the actual tooling doing the job.

ripe sphinx
#

I shouldn't have PRed that lol

golden gust
#

that's API, so, no

ripe sphinx
#

no I PRed Log4J because I naievly thought it'd be here forever

golden gust
#

at this point I don't see us moving away from L4J

mossy vessel
#

I mean, you can still use your own slf4j abstraction if you like and rely on what paper provides

#

But hey, no need to switch if my souts work, right?

ripe sphinx
#

grumbles

golden gust
#

sout > /dev/null wen?

ripe sphinx
#

would be very easy to do that for plugin souts

plucky sparrow
#

🧱

vernal moth
#

Let's all include the poor intern at Mojang that had to change all logger calls in our prayers tonight, may satan let him leave soon

mossy vessel
#

Did they not tell 'em that there are tools to do that for you? PepeLaugh

vernal moth
#

Haven't looked at the diff yet, lemme see

void void
#

this is probably faster to do by hand tbh

golden gust
#

I mean

vernal moth
#

oh they for sure did a find and replace

golden gust
#

I literally created the PR for the moving from destroystokyo to io.papermc using sed 😄

vernal moth
golden gust
#

but, IJ has some nice tools for doing that

#

can even get it to auto optimise imports, etc iirc

#

(not that you can't just run that across the entire codebase as-is if it didn't)

ripe sphinx
#

What's in the logutils I wonder

vernal moth
#

look at it, its the new lib

#

they prolly included sources for that on their maven repo

copper cliff
#

Hello.

I am not sure if this is the right place to ask about this but since there are a lot of people that are familiar with these websites and plugins I was hoping to get some answer about this.

So my server rellies on GriefPrevention to prevent grief. However, it has not been updated in spigot for a big while. I am updating to 1.18.1 and it does not support that version. Someone on reddit mentioned that this link has an updated version of the plugin, however I have never downloaded anything from here.

Does anyone know if it's safe to update GriefPrevention from this website?
https://ci.appveyor.com/project/RoboMWM39862/griefprevention/history

Thank you. (did not post on #paper-help since it's not related to paper)

golden gust
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Well, that's a known CI server site thing

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and, that's apparently the proper repo for GP

#

So, maybe?

copper cliff
#

it should be safe then?

golden gust
#

it's a known site

#

connected to the correct OG repo

#

so, yea, probably

copper cliff
#

Okay, Thank you!

worn ember
#

Our lord and savior roboMWM

void void
#

i wonder

meager hinge
void void
#

how github earns money

twin lagoon
#

enterprise

void void
#

Enterprise solutions?

vague lagoon
#

Enterprise

void void
#

oh

twin lagoon
#

the answer is almost always enterprise

meager hinge
#

+it's owned by Microsoft

twin lagoon
#

that doesn't make it earn more money

void void
#

whats the max repository size on free gh

meager hinge
twin lagoon
#

not necessarily

meager hinge
#

unlike some video game companies I've seen

unkempt drift
#

I think 100GB manya? 100MB for an individual file

meager hinge
void void
void void
unkempt drift
void void
#

quick, delete it before md pulls it into bukkit pepela

#

need a constant for every Long number 🙂

barren olive
#

Hi

void void
#

Hello

plucky sparrow
mighty storm
#

this is much better than the materialenum

charred sleet
#

yeah...

zealous vessel
#

has any one tried doing fabric/forge modding instead of bukkit for servers? and if yes how did that turn out 🤔

simple karma
#

pov minecraft bug fixes:

  • Game crashes when dispensing a bone meal in a warm ocean and there is a block with no facing block state in #wall_corals
#

XDD

#

how odly specific

tropic flame
#

you'll be in for a ride

simple karma
#

haha

#

mojang fixed world upgrade memory leak btw

#

i know it was a known issue on paper github

ripe sphinx
young oriole
#

does this actually work? I just saw that on a different server and I wonder if that´s a bug or if it´s actually possible to connect make the fences look like that

ashen cliff
#

You can do that after 1.13, yes.

young oriole
#

and how? sry :/ it´s probably a stupid question. everytime I build a fence it doesn´t connect like that

ripe sphinx
#

Worldedit

young oriole
#

mine always look like this

ripe sphinx
#

//set oak_fence[north=true,south=true] (or east & west)

young oriole
#

oooh alright! I´ll try that! ty already!

solemn bear
#

Hello

#

can we buy proxies in this server? I am new here

vague lagoon
#

What

ripe sphinx
#

Velocity & waterfall are both free & open source

spare venture
#

debug stick @young oriole

young oriole
#

I used the method that _11 told me which works rlly well! but ty for the hint with the debug stick! I´ve never used that before

spare venture
#

it’s good for a lot of things

young oriole
#

I´ll check it on the wiki 🙂 ty for mentioning!

ripe sphinx
#

I don't think debug stick is as powerful as W/E for this kind of thing

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(although for quick things it's nice and easy)

wind geyser
#

it doesn't like firefox

#

:/

twin lagoon
#

@spiral robin

golden gust
spiral robin
wind geyser
#

I can provide a video clip

#

hold on

#

let me open obs

#

it doesn't do it just when I hit download, but sometimes it does it when just looking at the script

#

could it possibly be an extension that I have?

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I realized there was a download button, but before I would just drag to copy and then paste it into a notepad document

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@spiral robin, whenever you get the chance. I'm not good at explaining things so I provided a couple video clips