general

[limber knot]

touhou IS NOT anime

[potent fossil]

oh my god can you children stop being children for 3 minutes

[south matrix]

yes let's talk about 1.18.2

[golden gust]

I'm not acting like a child!

stomps foot

[limber knot]

cat, you legit are a child

bit oversize, but still

[rotund portal]

anyone know if there is a list for farms that break with paper? And or redstone contraptions.

[potent fossil]

i just finished retesting my state's new college app system and they didnt fix the thing i asked them to fix so i decided to passive aggressively write the code and said "here, copy paste it"

[limber knot]

ez

[potent fossil]

not kidding https://codepen.io/algorithmjunkie/pen/vYeXVmZ

for ssn entry they literally have a random textbox and say "enter 9 digits doesnt matter if you include dashes or not"

and i was like "that is horrible UX, enforce the format"

[golden gust]

So, basically, what you're telling me

[potent fossil]

and they're like "naw"

[golden gust]

is that, basically

UR A DAMNED NERD

[potent fossil]

yea

[golden gust]

https://tenor.com/8qHr.gif

[potent fossil]

did anyone ever watch that krampus movie

i kinda want to

[void void]

No cause its bad

[golden gust]

just yet another thing on the stupidly long list of stuff I probs shoulda watched over the years

[potent fossil]

i figured it was probably stupid

[golden gust]

I still ain't watched GoT

[potent fossil]

but, like

why not

[golden gust]

I mean, my general view these days is that most of the "hype" films/shows are kinda shite

like all the new marvel movies, etc

[potent fossil]

yea, ive been using agoodmovietowatch.com and sorting by 'the very best'

hasn't failed yet

but im in the mood for pure stupid atm

and krampus might fit the bill

[golden gust]

I remember the days of using rotten tomatos

[limber knot]

i just go in blind

[potent fossil]

captain fantastic is a great movie, which i found on the site. 10/10 recommend if you havent seen it

[golden gust]

high critics, high audience score - fuckin' great!
low critics, low audience score - this is a coin toss between being the a contender for the worst list
low critis, high audience score - prepare to watch one of the best shows released this year

oh, high critics, low audience score - don't bother

[limber knot]

ugh i dont wanna go to badminton

too early and cold

[potent fossil]

cat, that third line = gold

[prime coral]

Bots nowadays do sport?

[potent fossil]

what

in what region

[golden gust]

I think that most of the people reviewing films these days are out of touch with what the audience really wants, and theres been many cases of them being salty af over shows because they don't understand that

[potent fossil]

rip u

[golden gust]

Not to mention, film makers forget the classic rule and then wonder why they get burned by real audiences: "you don't fuck with a classic!"

[potent fossil]

me surfing aws:

[golden gust]

page loads fine here

[limber knot]

yyds

[limber knot]

god that website looks so dated but clean

i honestly prefer sidebars

because you dont run out of space with those

[potent fossil]

i heard u like navbars so i put a navbar in ur navbar in ur sidebar in ur dropdown

[golden gust]

sidebars get stupidly annoying when you're tryna deal with nesting, etc

not that nav bars don't have their own set of special little issues

[potent fossil]

but what do i search for!

[golden gust]

I mean, the sole intent of that page is to showcase off their stuff to make you more interested in wasting time and cash toying with their platform

[limber knot]

god i wish my school website had a seaech bar

nah

my school's ICT department's smart enough

it's just that the website is a wordpress clusterfuck

so it wouldn't even be that hard to implement a search bar

just add tags to the articles

i have no php

ez

if it works it works amirite

[potent fossil]

alright i feel bad bc almost every comment is worried about OP for valid reasons but i also laughed at the "post workout feast"

"1 Single Brazil Nut (from western Amazon)"

https://www.reddit.com/r/DecidingToBeBetter/comments/rdogqc/long_covid_created_the_optimal_diet/

[limber knot]

this sounds like the diet my mom's following

lots of nuts and proteins n stuff

[limber knot]

tabs save bytes.

be nice to your bytes.

[marble lark]

lmfao

honestly i don't care which i use unless PRing to a codebase with strict formatting rules

[potent fossil]

i will refuse to PR to a codebase that says use spaces instead of tabs

they can fuck off to hell

[limber knot]

oh god please do not remind me of shogicraft codebase

ok but real talk, 2, 4 or 8 space tabs

[golden gust]

I mean, I generally care to maintain consistency with the existing file

[marble lark]

windows defaults to 8 and i forgot how to change it lmao

[golden gust]

4

2 is like, too narrow that stuff starts tending to blend too much

8 is just a waste of space

kinda like nah oh may

ur just odd and need to speak to a therapist

[marble lark]

wouldn't mix well

[limber knot]

dart enforces 2 space tabs and it just too smol

[marble lark]

most tabs are multiples of 2 having an odd number makes it hard to align them

[limber knot]

i prefer 4

[radiant oriole]

luke I'm curious, did you ever figure out the RCE with log4j?

Yeah figured you would lol

oh ok nevermind you didn't figure it out

[potent fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/time-to-stop-lol-funny-gif-7561335

[marble lark]

HotSpot uses tabs of 2 iirc but I've never heard of a language enforcing tab size

[limber knot]

dart plugin for vscode changed my tab size everytime i created a new file

[marble lark]

haha vscode

[limber knot]

i will NOT taint my IntelliJ with other languages, sherman

no.

i refuse to even touch anything python related

[marble lark]

ain't pycharm only for python and not any other language

[marble lark]

and yet that's what Elshout is implemented in

fun times

[limber knot]

im not touching it

you are

[marble lark]

fair enough

@void void help me make naomi touch it

:P

[plucky sparrow]

do u have a github

[marble lark]

yep

why tho

[plucky sparrow]

I want to follow u

[frank otter]

also where is elshout

I want to have a look at it

[marble lark]

I mean sure but there's nothing interesting on my gh yet (Same as Discord name)

[marble lark]

haven't pushed it yet I haven't had much time to work on it

[frank otter]

plz push I wanna see whatever is there

[marble lark]

will soon once the thing is less messy ;-;

[plucky sparrow]

do you ever plan on using a pfp

you don’t even have a pfp on GH

[marble lark]

:)

aye followed you back too

[plucky sparrow]

Ay

Thanks

[potent fossil]

what is elshout

[lone ember]

what’s the best way of going about learning Java from a Python background

[potent fossil]

read java trails. use java.

[void void]

cursed programming language designed by naomi

[potent fossil]

https://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/java/index.html

then start using it and fucking up and learning why it's a fuck up and then use it more and dont fuck up the same way, fuck up another way, learn about it, rinse, repeat, eventually you know java

repeat for any programming language

[void void]

53,336 bananas, +16.3k karma, 18 awards received

[potent fossil]

good site to use https://codingbat.com/java

[meager tusk]

Good person to talk to: @potent fossil !

[potent fossil]

best idriz

[south matrix]

think they use log4j?

[limber knot]

bro.

[potent fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/eat-my-ass-gif-21367109

[limber knot]

they use the best logger, System.out.println()

[lone ember]

is public static void main(String[] args) { the Java equivalent of Python’s def init(self): ?

[potent fossil]

yup

[lone ember]

ok that makes a bit more sense

[limber knot]

it's the entry point to your program, yes

[potent fossil]

that is the python entrypoint method

well technically it's __init__ but whatever

[lone ember]

I can’t escape characters on mobile easily

[limber knot]

wrap your stuff in `

[lone ember]

that character doesn’t exist on mobile keyboard

[limber knot]

yes it does

[potent fossil]

well actually technically technically __init__ is the constructor, so, slight difference

[limber knot]

im on mobile lmao

[potent fossil]

naomi it's not that big of a deal

[lone ember]

I would use that character a lot more on mobile if I knew how

oh wait I see

`

[median zinc]

is essential updated for 1.18 yet

[lone ember]

ok cool

[limber knot]

yes

[median zinc]

cant seem to find the version for 1.18 in their repository

[limber knot]

turns yucky yucky into poggie poggie

[potent fossil]

i dont do python a whole lot but i think the entrypoint method can be configured, right? so it can technically be set to any name

__init__ in python is equivalent to a java class's constructor (i.e. if class name is Bicycle then it's equivalent to public Bicycle() {})

and would be called on new Bicycle()

[limber knot]

i love doing new MainClass() in my java programs

[lone ember]

so from my understanding:
public means the method can be called from outside the class
static means that the method belongs to the class
void means that we’re not returning anything

but what’s the point of having an array of strings as the arguments?

[potent fossil]

when you start the program like java MainClass arg1 arg2 arg3 it comes in as a string array in public static void main(String[] args)

[lone ember]

ah okay

[plucky sparrow]

check twitter dms

[lone ember]

I’m assuming it doesn’t have to be an array of strings, we can define the arguments individually if we wanted?

[potent fossil]

Nope, it's gotta be an array

[lone ember]

ok that makes sense, does it have to be an array of strings?

[potent fossil]

Yes, then you process it further if need be

[lone ember]

wow that’s kinda surprising honestly lol

[limber knot]

pretty sure that's how most languages handle it

[potent fossil]

java is lower level than python (but still high level)

so you gotta do more boilerplate

[lone ember]

C++ doesn’t do that from what I’ve seen

[limber knot]

os.args in V also returns a string array

[lone ember]

at least in how I’ve seen C++

[potent fossil]

c++ also takes in arg array i think

[lone ember]

it looks like it takes in args individually

[limber knot]

argc argv

yep

fun.

[lone ember]

keep in mind I’m not proficient in C++ at all, it’s just what I’ve seen from ghidra generating a C++ “translation”

[potent fossil]

i mean for a java method you can define any args you want with their own names

we're talking about the program entrypoint

[lone ember]

ah ok

[potent fossil]

public static MyMainClass {
  public static void main(String[] args) {
    new MyMainClass().woot(args[0], Integer.parseInt(args[1]), Double.parseDouble(args[2]);
  }

  public void woot(String aStringArg, int anIntArg, double aDoubleArg) {
   // ...
  }
}

for example

but ofc that's assuming you're passing 3 args and the 2nd one is parseable as an int and the 3rd one is parseable as a double so in a real environment you'd be doing checks to ensure those conditions and so on

anyway ima go back to watching this movie

[lone ember]

extremely helpful, thank you

[potent fossil]

public class* not public static woops

ok bye

[meager tusk]

What the fuck

[potent fossil]

do not attack me its christmas thanks

[marble lark]

python doesn't really have an entrypoint method, whatever script you run first will just run first

[meager tusk]

Ok simple

I love you

[marble lark]

(I guess you could say zipapp bundled python applications have their entrypoint in _main_ though)

[wide chasm]

C++ argument array also includes the program name used to start the program, whereas Java doesn't, that's I believe the only real difference for entry points. Of course arrays in C++ look different.

[lone ember]

this might sound a bit dumb but what exactly is the difference between an entrypoint method and Python’s __init__

or rather, what exactly does entrypoint method mean

[tawdry zealot]

guys
can someone give me a course which teaches me python

[lone ember]

oh wait I think I get it

the entrypoint method means that is the one that’s called when running the program for the first time

and because you can’t have code outside of a class, that’s what Java uses to determine what gets run, right?

[outer patio]

Anyone know any server which actually got attacked by the exploit?

[lone ember]

meanwhile Python doesn’t have something like this because not all code in Python needs to belong to a class

[void void]

Yeah more or less

It can evaluate stuff directly as they come

Conventionally people use

if __name__ == '__main__':
    pass

To have an equivalent

[lone ember]

right

[void void]

It's actually useful, because I remember this will only get called if the file is the one being ran

[marble lark]

python not being purely class based isn't the reason as to why it doesn't have a main()

[void void]

Let's say you import foo.py, it will execute everything in it

[marble lark]

C and C++ work perfectly well without classes too

[void void]

And that if statement will allow you to only execute it if it's the main python file

[lone ember]

ok I’m starting to understand this a lot more than I did when I first started trying Java

[void void]

Python is easier to begin than java I guess

[lone ember]

oh yeah much easier lol

[marble lark]

it sort of depends which one you start with first

python took me quite a while to get used to with the dynamic typing haha

[void void]

But it's actually arguable, I believe python does too much for the user, it's good if you know what you're doing but not the best for really understanding how everything works

[marble lark]

^

[lone ember]

I’m not experienced enough in any language to have a real opinion about that lol

[void void]

Well, it's just in case you want to have a career in these

[magic river]

Python is so dynamic writing large programs with it either requires a very disciplined team or a lot of alcohol to deal with the pain

It's great for writing little toy programs or trying things out though which also makes it nice for people learning how to program, I guess

[frank otter]

the reason I like python is that its lambdas work better than c++'s

and that's it

[lone ember]

what’s wrong with writing large programs in Python?

[void void]

It's horrible to scale

[marble lark]

when you have that many functions and variables, the dynamic typing becomes increasingly difficult to track

[void void]

Parallelism is basically suicide

[frank otter]

oh yes that's the reason I don't like python

[lone ember]

I suppose that makes sense, but it works for me

[frank otter]

I've grown too used to having strict types on everything

[marble lark]

multiprocessing module lel

[marble lark]

Me too

[void void]

Because you're probably not handling enough data

[frank otter]

also fun fact

in python, I think 0 == False

and that little thing royally screwed me over

[void void]

Maybe keyword is?

[frank otter]

yep I forgot about is

[void void]

It's tricky

And against C logic

[marble lark]

for me stuff like Java is too much verbosity, Python is far too little, to the point that you have no idea what type is what after a while

[frank otter]

I'm just used to having types from like Rust

rust and c++ I think for me is the happy medium for verbosity

[marble lark]

yep

being able to initialize objects by Object object(params) is nice

[void void]

Goodluck beginning with cpp

[frank otter]

I started a while ago

reading through a book on it

[marble lark]

isn't jumping all the way to C++ from Python a little extreme

[frank otter]

then I gave up because closures don't bloody capture variables

[lone ember]

I can actually see where you’re coming from - there’s a Mario Kart Wii physics reimplementation written in Rust, and with how many things that need to be kept track of it makes sense why strict rules apply

[frank otter]

oh no sorry I went to python from c++

[marble lark]

oh i thought Snavy was talking about vabold

soz

[void void]

Yeah

[marble lark]

oh

[frank otter]

now im confused

[void void]

Strict rules?

[marble lark]

i assume they mean strict typing

[lone ember]

yeah

[void void]

Ah okay

[lone ember]

I actually tried to jump from Python to PowerPC

[void void]

PowerPC?

[marble lark]

PowerPC assembly?

[lone ember]

yes

[void void]

Damn

[lone ember]

I’m trying to work on a project that adds new characters to MKW from scratch

with new IDs and entries in the parameter files used

very luckily it’s pretty easy to see how certain roadblocks are happening

[void void]

So you do asm?

[lone ember]

kinda? I’m “doing ASM” in the sense that I’m using ghidra to help write gecko codes

[void void]

Interesting

[lone ember]

it doesn’t require a lot of reverse engineering, I’m more or less just looking to see how certain registers set values and then using the gecko code to change it

and very thankfully a lot of work has been done in the decomp for MKW

[void void]

Nice

[frank otter]

I tried assembly and C a whole ago, it was interesting to say the least

also tried writing my own tiny assembler in python and an emulator in C

[lone ember]

I will say that Python is so helpful for new stuff to .bin files quickly

[void void]

The biggest thing I've made is strlen in asm

[frank otter]

I made a print statement in my own tiny asm I think

no thats a lie

[lone ember]

I’ve never actually “made” something in asm, only modified

[frank otter]

It can print characters but only as ascii codes

[void void]

To stdout?

[frank otter]

yes if I run it in the little emulator I made for it

[void void]

Ah okay

Alright

Time for lunch

Then java boilerplating

[magic river]

Not sure what you mean here, C++ can do that

I'm going to guess you captured a pointer/reference and then it was invalid when the lambda was executed so you got a segfault

The only way C++ could magic up a solution to that is to have the language be garbage collected

[frank otter]

uhh I think when I tried it

[magic river]

It gives you ways to solve it yourself though

[frank otter]

It was capture by value, and I got garbage

if I captured by ref yes it segfaulted

[magic river]

using namespace std;

// a unique_ptr is move-only
auto u = make_unique<some_type>( some, parameters );  
// move the unique_ptr into the lambda
go.run( [ u = move(u) ] { do_something_with( u ); } ); 

If that looks ugly to you it's C++, it's required to look ugly 😄

[frank otter]

ohh I didn't know about unique pointers

[potent fossil]

much like c++ i am also required to look ugly

[void void]

https://github.com/zhuowei/nft_ptr

[frank otter]

I think what I was doing was calling a function and within the function a struct was constructed containing a lambda taking an arg from the function args

then we save the struct and when we called it lo and behold garbage

there were probably ways to fix it but python worked better

[magic river]

Yeah in C and C++ you do a lot of copying and a lot of reference counted types even if you don't need to just because trying to prove you didn't just violate memory safety is a nightmare

[lavish compass]

SIGSEGV gang

[magic river]

Rust does that thinking for you and GC'ed languages let you pretend that isn't even a thing

[marble lark]

ahh smart pointers

lifesavers at times

[lavish compass]

@warm anchor make a data breach bingo

[half hawk]

hi i did a thing

[void void]

38?

[half hawk]

yes! 38 mb

[void void]

That's not much

[half hawk]

😄

[marble lark]

well it is 1.2.5 after all

[charred sleet]

that’s old kek

[marble lark]

early versions were actually pretty well known for taking up extremely little memory

[void void]

Well.. flat world

[marble lark]

and that too i guess

[void void]

It's just chunks and a player object

[half hawk]

and no entities, and a view distance of 4

[void void]

Yup

[half hawk]

works with 22 mb, crashes with 20 mb

[marble lark]

iirc even under load older versions could work with just 256mb on average

well versions older than 1.3 at least

[half hawk]

cool

[plucky sparrow]

i was gonna return to macOS but remembered Ctrl + Click = Right Click

so no ty

[topaz mortar]

Just map sprint to the key on right. < >

[void void]

^ I have sprint mapped to R

[void void]

⭐ 1/5
Why does this plugin not support craftbukkit 1.2.5?

[plucky sparrow]

Idk man I’m very used to using ctrl to sprint

Hmm

[void void]

I think you can disable it

[plucky sparrow]

I don’t think so

[turbid rapids]

when stable release for 1.18?

[crystal lily]

__There Is No ETA__

Updates to Paper do not have any sort of estimate for when they release, ever. Any and all updates will arrive when they are ready, and the only thing to do is wait for them patiently along with everyone else.

ETA means 'Estimated Time of Arrival'!

[half hawk]

😄

[topaz mortar]

When you find that option, pls ping me. So I can get rid of it.

[golden gust]

You used to be able to disable it with some program thing but then they rewrote some input drivers or some shit and broke it

[topaz mortar]

Sad

[quick pasture]

I think you can still overridr global shortcuts

I think I accidentally did that once while making my screenshot app lol

[void void]

google it, but I remember it maybe removed other things with it

it's super dumb

[topaz mortar]

dumb solution, should be in the default settings.
https://apple.stackexchange.com/a/141857

[potent fossil]

just realized utorrent actually uses μ in its name so is it technically pronounced mu-torrent

[quick pasture]

my torrent :)

[potent fossil]

amazing

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ΜTorrent#Pronunciation

[upbeat kelp]

utorrent more like cryptotorrent

[potent fossil]

?

oh, that shit back in 2015

[void void]

yeah I agree

QBitTorrent >

[worn ember]

I couldn't even get keyboard shortcuts to work at all on mac

Like the one to open terminal in current folder

Set it up and all

[topaz mortar]

NFTorrent when? 🤣

[void void]

I mean, the nft bay exists

[plucky sparrow]

this works?

i tried using karabiner last year and it didn't work for me

[golden gust]

oh, damn, it works now

[topaz mortar]

Not tested, just the first result I found. 🤡

[golden gust]

I remember it didn't support it last time I looked at it was I was using something before that until apple borked it

[worn ember]

[topaz mortar]

Oh Apple instead of adding hundreds of new bugged features pls fix the ones of the last 6 years.

[plucky sparrow]

definitely switching to macOS then

only if opencore wants to work

[topaz mortar]

Need to wait some years for a Hackintosh.
Not gonna pay twice or triple the price for an AMD GPU.

[plucky sparrow]

wait a few years and you'll regret waiting so much

with Apple switching to their own silicon

well maybe not just a few years

but still

[topaz mortar]

I've a mac book already. So no need to have a Hackintosh. Just a project to do something non development related.

[plucky sparrow]

Ah I see

[neat lake]

what's the best free land claim plugin?

[elfin steppe]

GriefPrevention is nice

[marble lark]

should be tomorrow I think (Totally didn't make that up)

[foggy silo]

Troll

[outer patio]

Grief prevention

[neat oyster]

https://f.u11.io/fbi

[potent fossil]

we have https://offlinemo.de for that actually

[neat oyster]

yes

ik

[potent fossil]

ok?

[median surge]

hi

[neat oyster]

how to get role color

[median surge]

What's with the site? Why did the builds disappear?

[neat oyster]

what it did?

for me

it is showin

[potent fossil]

no clue what you're talking about, the builds show fine

[neat oyster]

also next build is build #69 ;)

[neat oyster]

a

yes

it did go poof

[potent fossil]

because the old versions have the exploit...

if you want them get it from the API

[neat oyster]

is it on github too?

[potent fossil]

the downloads are not on github

[neat oyster]

ok

[median surge]

Well, thanks!

[still turtle]

Wait is the 1.18 build stable now

?

[faint crystal]

no

[still turtle]

For 1.18.1

I mean 1.18

[faint crystal]

1.18.1 doesn't change almost anything

[still turtle]

So is 1.18 stable or should i wait for a stable 1.18.1

[faint crystal]

nothing is stable

[still turtle]

Hm ok

[rocky drift]

Does anyone have any experience using Xaero's Map? I could use come quick troubleshooting help

[brave mountain]

anyone knows where to find PlaceholderAPI dev builds?

[faint crystal]

Build it yourself 🙃

[ashen cliff]

Their Discord server.

[brave mountain]

Do they have?

[ashen cliff]

There is a Jenkins server, but I have no idea where that link is.

[brave mountain]

I found it tank you

[limber knot]

@ Peter Crawley is this your yt channel? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0tqbEFHP6U

cuz recommended go brrr

[faint crystal]

naomi why are you using irc now?

[worn ember]

she got booted by discord

[void void]

so... what if I just didnt give players the Crafting Table recipe when they start...

like, rankup to craft craftingtable

[faint crystal]

how does one rankup

[void void]

pay

[rare python]

LOL WHAT

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/917830663292456983/919225647291854918/unknown.png

[plucky sparrow]

LOL imagine a p2w server that sells crafting tables

[rare python]

I see you saw it too.

[faint crystal]

EA-Craft

[rare python]

I fail to understand why a video that is like a month old has now turned into a rocket

[knotty oasis]

https://www.jenkins.io/blog/2021/12/10/log4j2-rce-CVE-2021-44228/ yay

[rare python]

Old news.

[faint crystal]

yea why does youtube just love to recommend me videos from 6 years ago

[knotty oasis]

I just woke up

The Jenkins security team has confirmed that Log4j is not used in Jenkins core. is the news btw.

not the vuln if thats what youre thinking

[mossy vessel]

slf4j in core pmuch prevented the work to do for em

[limber knot]

only i am dumb enough to burn my tongue on hot chocolate

[worn ember]

you need to be a trained chocolate taster, like us belgians

noob

[hexed dragon]

lol

[marble lark]

how do i make my profile transparent like yours

[void void]

Please don’t

[idle rune]

anyone knows a good hologram plugin for 1.17 that works?

[plucky sparrow]

I’ll block you if you do that

[worn ember]

holographic displays

[remote pelican]

please don't criticize me

[idle rune]

its this one right https://dev.bukkit.org/projects/holographic-displays/ ?

[worn ember]

ye

[idle rune]

tyvm 🙂

[void void]

1.8

[marble lark]

:(

[warm anchor]

I will much prefer Sherman with transparent profile pic

Default one is worse and an eye sore

[golden gust]

ur an eye sore

[warm anchor]

[jovial plover]

is anyone here a good builder

[golden gust]

This is not the place for solicitation

[jovial plover]

where is

[golden gust]

one of the many places which specifically deal with that?

[worn ember]

cat is a good builder, he's the best he'll build you the biggest shit on your rug

[golden gust]

Spigot, MCM, etc, etc, etc

[jovial plover]

any discords

[red timber]

but then you remember that sout gets forwarded to log4j

[golden gust]

We're not google

[red timber]

tf u mean cat why aren't you google

[upbeat falcon]

I Am A Free Builder for Hire Minecraft Map

https://www.planetminecraft.com/project/free-builder-for-hire/

Apr 18, 2016 ... I do alot more builds but i am a minecraft builder who is always bored and ... who will hire me for FREE to build there server from scratch ...

Requested by DarkEyeDragon - About 11,100,000 results (0.47 seconds)

[worn ember]

ez clap

[jovial plover]

.g best discord servers to ask for mc builders

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://www.top.gg/servers/tag/minecraft

[worn ember]

we are google after all

[remote pelican]

💀

[unique fable]

Probably asked multiple times but when is a stable version expected to be released

[red timber]

wdym stable

[crystal lily]

__There Is No ETA__

Updates to Paper do not have any sort of estimate for when they release, ever. Any and all updates will arrive when they are ready, and the only thing to do is wait for them patiently along with everyone else.

ETA means 'Estimated Time of Arrival'!

[plucky sparrow]

opencore wont show the recovery partition 😔

might just give up

literally no idea what's causing that

[limber knot]

get fucked dap

[plucky sparrow]

i'd love that but not by opencore

[worn ember]

good luck with that one bruh, cuz there are no lyrics

[golden gust]

The Gävlebocken is always this weird conflicting thing for me

Like, I kinda wish it would burn, just for the sake of it being the right thing to do

But, it always kinda feels a shame when it does burn that peoples work went up in flames, literally

[limber knot]

bonfire night?

[golden gust]

hm?

[crystal lily]

Having problems with TNT Duping, Bedrock Breaking or Sand Duping Vanilla Exploits? See: https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/3854 for information.

[void void]

How much do you guys still have to update in paper 1.18, is there a lot still to do?

[golden gust]

god

I wish there was a channel with literally all of that info

[worn ember]

lol i just realized Steve is a real chad, he can throw eggs like 30m up in the air

[golden gust]

would be cool, you know

[true canyon]

What a brilliant idea!

[void void]

And he can carry a fuckton of gold

[vernal moth]

Would be more surprised by all the cobble than some gold tbh

[worn ember]

isnt gold denser than cobble?

[vernal moth]

Well, but an gold ingot is much smaller than 1m3 of couple, no?

[foggy silo]

👋 Hi all!

[worn ember]

gold ore

[vernal moth]

But yeah density wise gold is high up there, it's like 20g per cm3 iirc

19.3

[limber knot]

finally, i have another programming project idea

[foggy silo]

Oh hello noami

[limber knot]

Owen hello

[plucky sparrow]

Tell me naomi

[tropic flame]

watch the technical Minecraft players coming to ask how to reenable the Log4J exploit claiming it's a feature

[foggy silo]

[void void]

Duplication exploit powered by log4J

[limber knot]

I mean you could probably use it in some kind of mechanic which uses timing due to the parsing or some shit

[main hound]

the exploit is really bad

[limber knot]

we know

[void void]

Cat says he can’t reproduce the actual exploit with it 🤷‍♂️

[main hound]

if u got plugins using log4j ur ded

[void void]

1.8 is ancient tho, glhf

[limber knot]

^

[marble lark]

cobble has a density of 2.8g/cm3 by comparison

too lazy to do the math though

[foggy silo]

Okay please stop talking about 1.8.8

[void void]

Versions older than my grandma aren’t supported, update

[foggy silo]

nobody is gonna help you

[mental meadow]

good mooorning

[foggy silo]

gm!!!

[limber knot]

see, monkegame completely circumvented the pvp problem by just making pvp 1 hit = 1 kill 🧠

[golden gust]

We know

I literally already said that

I still cannot reproduce the actual exploit but god knows

[warm anchor]

Ok

[limber knot]

uwuwa it's almost 17:00

[foggy silo]

cat skill issue x)

[void void]

Whats gonna happen at 5 naom

[golden gust]

We. know.

[marble lark]

Owen was never seen again

[limber knot]

at 5 i am going to open intellij and cry

probably put on pitch fucker

[foggy silo]

Welcome to the club 🤝

[marble lark]

wut

[foggy silo]

except instead of 5 it's any time

[mental meadow]

almost
anxiety med made me sleep all day

[limber knot]

sherman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55gwHSBtrzA

[foggy silo]

yea I was wondering.... x)

[mental meadow]

which honestly is rather effective

[marble lark]

jesus lmao

[foggy silo]

🤔

[limber knot]

youtube compression makes it sound worse 😔

i have a flac somewhere

it is definitely making my headache worse but i just love Kraus

[mental meadow]

I still can't figure out nginx

it hurts

[twin lagoon]

step one is to not use nginxconfig.io

[mental meadow]

apparently

seemed to nice

[limber knot]

https://naomi.s-ul.eu/r0oLpYZv

[void void]

What are you struggling with?

[limber knot]

"very soon"

view no country released 29-10

[frank otter]

naomi are you not getting your discord back

[plucky sparrow]

@naomi are you not gonna tell us what your programming project idea is

[mental meadow]

getting domain/phpmyadmin to work 😄 it always returns 404. realistically it is because of something in the config from nginxconfig.io but I don't know what

https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/12dd6abf0f1049909586044d559059c9

[golden gust]

if it's returning a 404 then it's matching some config which you're not expecting it to

[mental meadow]

people told me it is because the phpmyadmin location has no try files but when I add that I just get thrown to the default index.php of that site

so what I've been doing since yesterday is commenting out random stuff and see what happens 😄

[marble lark]

pretty much me whenever there's a bug and i have no idea what's causing it

;-;

[void void]

Do you have index.php added aa an index?

As*

[mental meadow]

everything i have is in that paste 😄

[golden gust]

jesus fuck

some amazon warehouse collapsed

[worn ember]

Damn, thats a crushing experience

[golden gust]

are you sure you don't have any children?

[worn ember]

No one wants to be my mate, i wonder why

[golden gust]

Well, I could tell you

but, discord only allows 4000 characters in a message

[worn ember]

dw, you can upload it as a txt message

[plucky sparrow]

You can actually send as a txt file

[cosmic raft]

link?

[golden gust]

https://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-warehouse-in-illinois-collapses-100-workers-mass-casualty-incident-2021-12?r=US&IR=T

[vernal moth]

That's your first concern?

A fucking package?

[worn ember]

lol

Bozos fuming rn for lost revenue

i mean Bezos

[left swift]

no empathy

those workers probably got worked to the bone just to get crushed at their job because amazon couldn't do safety checks on the building

pretty fucked

[vernal moth]

Don't speculate

[cunning raft]

No politics

This is politics

[worn ember]

[left swift]

I hate yoy

[plucky sparrow]

LOL

[worn ember]

No one:
JRoy: REEEE POLITICS

[cunning raft]

We removed the channel

You guys know better

[left swift]

how has this anything to do with politics

are u memeing

[cunning raft]

no

[left swift]

storm destroys a building and that's poltics?

[cunning raft]

You know exactly what you're doing

Stop

[left swift]

anyways

spent all morning digging my truck out of 2 snow drifts

fun times

[native quiver]

Hello, I have a server with 1.17.1 and grief prevention although my villagers don't breed? I already set the game rule of mobgrief to true but still they don't pick up items with the correct villager farm method

[left swift]

check the grief prevention config then

[worn ember]

dont live in the snow then

[native quiver]

there's no settings about villager's breeding in grief prevention :/

[faint crystal]

lol just rewrite the whole plugin yourself and fix it

[left swift]

is the mob pickup paper option still a thing

try removing plugin and see if it still happens or not

[native quiver]

adding villager: true works?

[left swift]

maybe idk anything about that setting

[worn ember]

idk man i think villagers not being able to pick up things is very political

[faint crystal]

JRoy hacked your account?

[worn ember]

scroll up a bit lol

[faint crystal]

i saw it

[left swift]

[solar hearth]

any1 who knows a way to make a headless piston in 1.18?

[faint crystal]

hell nah I already got banned once

[worn ember]

doesn't take much

[left swift]

laser can start

[vernal moth]

Try me

[left swift]

mini

how are you doing this Saturday

[vernal moth]

Not drunk yet

Which is a shame

[left swift]

unlucky

not enough sponsors

[faint crystal]

relatable

[vernal moth]

Nah, mostly just half my friends are scared caused covid and the others are spending time with family or loved ones, smh

[foggy silo]

yea it's creeping back up where I love too

[left swift]

where you love 😍

[vernal moth]

It's literally going down again last I checked

Which was last week but who cares

[left swift]

just have a social distancing drinking party

video chat in discord and play mario party

[foggy silo]

x)

[faint crystal]

looking good

[plucky sparrow]

I give up

No way to install macOS

I remember doing it super easily a year ago but now it’s just impossible

[red timber]

just install it into a vm

[plucky sparrow]

Why would I do that

I bought every single part in my computer just so macOS would run perfectly fine

Not to run it on a VM 😔

[pastel reef]

What do you call the value type Minecraft reads colors in command?

As in typing 00000000 for CustomPotionColor

What is that kind of value is that?

I can't find any information on this. Please ping me if you know the answer.

[marble lark]

mini got a bit of a question for ya

any beers you know of that don't taste ridiculously bitter

[plucky sparrow]

I believe it’s decimal?

[red timber]

...and you still don't know that macOS is literally the most unreliable OS to use on non-apple hardware?

well, oof

[plucky sparrow]

Except I literally ran macOS without a single issue on my machine for months

Well actually never had any issue

Just dumb me decided to uninstall it

[golden gust]

1. do not send exploit shit on discord

[red timber]

not patched on 1.8

ha

[golden gust]

2. Literally the announcements.

[paper jackal]

Are 1.8 to 1.16 all patched?

[golden gust]

reeeaaaadd

[worn ember]

cat fuming rn

[fallen oracle]

Well considering we have 100s of people ask the same question without basic reading skills or understanding capacity daily.

Gets kinda annoying.

[paper jackal]

Try to find a tutorial. What macOS version?

I can try to help

try

[plucky sparrow]

Monterey

[paper jackal]

One second

[plucky sparrow]

Maybe I should try Big Sur and then update

[paper jackal]

1 sec

[faint crystal]

just drink mixed shit

[worn ember]

vodka with water

[faint crystal]

no no he wants beer

beer with vodka

[worn ember]

oh right

[red timber]

vodka with water
why would you water down vodka smh

[faint crystal]

why would you water down water

[red timber]

clean shots or get out

[golden gust]

they can't handle the power of raw potato

Like

Literally beaten by a fucking potato

gg

[vagrant marlin]

i accidentally peeked into #paper-help, never again.

lost half of my intellect

[worn ember]

im sure mikro likes it raw

[paper jackal]

Go with Big Sur, apple added something

If that doesn’t work, use Catalina, because I have verified proof that that works

Then update to Monterey

[plucky sparrow]

yea I’ll probably just do Big Sur because it used to work for me

[paper jackal]

Okay! Good luck! Let me know if it works!

[plucky sparrow]

It might not help that I’m running 2 year old kexts I found on Reddit

but it used to work fine

so I won’t touch it

[paper jackal]

Apple messed it up so maybe update

Idk

[plucky sparrow]

Anyways

My respects to those that help in #paper-help

It’s hard work

[foggy silo]

It was fun repeating the same sentence

“Read pins.”

Or well, statement. x)

[vagrant marlin]

the clipboard on a computer was invented because of #paper-help

[worn ember]

speaking of clipboard, we have the macs at our college all connected to the same network and if you copy something it syncs across all macs, so if someone copies something and someone else copies something and you paste you're pasting what the last person copied, super fun

[void void]

Is there a way to prevent interacting with blocks based on Ranks? Like no Enchant Table till Rank-3 ??

[worn ember]

idk why that feature even exists lol

[vagrant marlin]

and the result of that has to be just spam in the clipboard, right?

[worn ember]

it mostly result in you pasting something from someone else on accident

and having to redo your copy

[vagrant marlin]

surprising

[plucky sparrow]

Isn’t this feature also on iDevices - macs

[faint crystal]

what if I copy my password

[vagrant marlin]

how isnt someone dedicating their entire day on just pressing ctrl + c on some spam

[plucky sparrow]

I feel like I could copy something and have it be copied on my iPad as well

[worn ember]

then i'd paste your password

[vagrant marlin]

and then you copy "thanks for the password" into the clipboard

[faint crystal]

communicate the test answers through clipboard

[vagrant marlin]

yes

[worn ember]

i copied part of an assignment for my mate the other week lol

i think most of the class used it eventually

[idle rune]

How i can disable water flow in paper 1.17?

[plucky sparrow]

I feel like installing macOS mavericks rn

[half hawk]

alright lads

irc > discord

thoughts?

[faint crystal]

irc is hipster

you just wanna be different for no reason

[vernal moth]

Says the person using discord if a IRC channel for paper exists

[queen imp]

ive never used a irc client as main one since it looked legacy

[limber knot]

your face looks legacy

[half hawk]

ofc not, its mostly developers nowadays

[vernal moth]

Then your IRC client sucked

[limber knot]

the lounge is perfectly usable

[mental meadow]

Discord easy to use but annoying sometimes because locked down; IRC harder to use but waaay more customization and stuff

[queen imp]

yeah im legacy forehead lol

[half hawk]

if you're going to use a web client why not just use discord at that point?

[worn ember]

yeah way more custimization if you literally want do do it all yourself lol

[half hawk]

as far as i know you can't easily customize the lounge compared to irssi or hexchat

[vernal moth]

Because being in control is nice?

[half hawk]

(i havent used thelounge in years no hate pls)

[vernal moth]

You can literally write any css and have it look however you want, lol

[limber knot]

^

too lazy to do that though

[vernal moth]

I also helped write the plugins API so you can do commands and stuff

Do you use my theme Naomi?

[half hawk]

oh theres a plugins api now?? thats fantastic

[worn ember]

yeah and talk with those 2 other people on irc

[limber knot]

i use the Morning theme

[half hawk]

i should give it a re-try

[limber knot]

i'll take a look tho, mini

[faint crystal]

if you use irc you're literally a bot

[queen imp]

is there any good irc client for recommending any new ppl

[faint crystal]

discord

[limber knot]

quassel's p good

[vernal moth]

My theme is still the top on npm, wooo

[worn ember]

inb4 its the only theme 😉

[half hawk]

hexchat if youre a windows kid

[vernal moth]

38 actually, smh

[half hawk]

uwu~ ✨

[vernal moth]

Consider reading the rules if you have to ask such a question

[limber knot]

i'd have to ask noah to install it

[vernal moth]

And no, we don't use derogatory terms here

[limber knot]

and im too lazy to poke noah

i'll have discord back in like 2 days anyway

[half hawk]

understood

[vernal moth]

@void void wtf why does your thelounge instance not use my theme

[void void]

hey just asking about the log4j thing
if you played in a multiplayer server on 1.18 after your java software has been updated (but not minecraft)
can you get affected

[vernal moth]

Yes

Java version is irrelevant

Update server and client

[limber knot]

it's not a bug in java, but in a library lol

[vernal moth]

https://twitter.com/gegy1000/status/1469714451716882434?t=R6i6t_iSbdTLAiKHWSUT8g&s=19

Gegy (@gegy1000)

so fixing log4shell is great and all, but.. wouldn't it be ✨ amazing ✨ if we all just promised to be nice and instead use this power to make vanilla minecraft doom server 🤔 https://t.co/tCaUCG1dqg

▶ Play video

Twitter · Dec 11, 2021, 5:03 PM

[mental meadow]

See the pins in #paper-help for more information

[void void]

i played in a multiplayer server unpatched until just now

[vernal moth]

Somebody can literally force you to play doom if you join a server with an unpatched client

Lmao

[void void]

i'm worried my computer's compromised

[vernal moth]

Prolly not

Just update

[void void]

i updated alr

like
i updated a few hours ago

[mental meadow]

I do believe that we acted pretty fast

[worn ember]

its funny how its such a big deal now but its literally been around for like 5 years

[worthy geode]

is that the Modding API mojang promised since years

[void void]

just worried i got compromised as i played it yesterday and the day before

[half hawk]

this is amazing

[void void]

i'm scanning my comp with mcafee but i'm afraid the exploits can evade antivirus

[worn ember]

lmao

ur virus scanner wont do shit against it

[mental meadow]

The exploit is not a virus

[void void]

they can download malware onto the computer right

[golden gust]

mcafee

people still use that shit?

[faint crystal]

my school does

[limber knot]

guy that fixed my computer does

[worn ember]

i just roll with defender these days

[void void]

my school has mcafee and norton

i just use mcafee

[mental meadow]

If someone actually managed to abuse the RCE on you they would not have stopped at downloading malware

[limber knot]

^

[mental meadow]

If you are scared, nuke your system

But realistically, you are fine

[half hawk]

this might sound rude but realistically nobody cares about your system

[void void]

so my comp would be dead rn
if they abused it

[worn ember]

great advice "just nuke it out of orbit bro"

[mental meadow]

No

[limber knot]

nah, you'd be part of a botnet, tops

realistically, you noticed nothing

and nothing happened

[mental meadow]

If a SWAT team comes busting through your door within the next few days you know you have been affected /s

[limber knot]

^^^^^

[void void]

wait if your fabric loader has been updated to 1.18.1 but the paper server hasn't

is it still dangerous

[worn ember]

i wonder how much it's been abused before it got publicly known

[vernal moth]

Not much

[worn ember]

there mustve been at least some people who knew about it

[vernal moth]

We mostly see people scanning but not exploiting

[golden gust]

I mean, if the lient is updated, then thec client is fine

as for the server, if it's not patched, then it's obviously still vuln.

[void void]

ok

fabric has patched it right

the latest fabric

alr ty

[golden gust]

probably?

ask them, not us

[void void]

Because I don't really use irc

you got a link?

[full silo]

Biggest attack vector for Log4j on minecraft was IP gathering probably

[upbeat falcon]

MiniDigger/thelounge-theme-mininapse: A dark, minimal ... - GitHub

https://github.com/MiniDigger/thelounge-theme-mininapse

A dark, minimal theme for TheLounge IRC client. Contribute to MiniDigger/thelounge-theme-mininapse development by creating an account on GitHub.

Requested by MiniDigger - About 9 results (0.19 seconds)

[full silo]

Minecraft is a cesspool of kids who have nothing better than to perform denial of service over competitive factions

[void void]

oh wow, that does look better

[half hawk]

thats pretty good

[vernal moth]

Irk

That's why I wrote it ^^

[void void]

tem br

aqui

so tem gringos

[golden gust]

This is an english discord

[coarse lily]

Please stick to English, thanks!

[void void]

is there anything bad they can do with your ip

[full silo]

Denial of service

[vernal moth]

That's boring

There is so much more

[void void]

isp should protect against it right

[half hawk]

yes but realistically nobody cares about your network

[void void]

@ naomi: restarting lounge for mini theme

[vernal moth]

Ahahaha no

[full silo]

Thats all minecraft skids are capable of

[void void]

nvm I don't need to restart

[full silo]

Force op vulnerabilities

[vernal moth]

That's not true at all and you are downplaying the impact of this issue @full silo

Let's not

[half hawk]

wow thelounge has come a long way, last time i had to modify the code to change a theme

[vernal moth]

I am a Minecraft kid and I can run whatever code I want on your PC if you join my server with an unpatched client

[full silo]

You're seasoned

You arent a skid

[void void]

i think i understand the basics of it

[limber knot]

:eyes: https://bounce.noah.pm/a/3a92026633715478/image.png

ty mini

[vernal moth]

It just takes one person tho?

[full silo]

You have experience writing the scripts necessary

[coarse lily]

Someone will release a one click thing soon enough.

[vernal moth]

They exist already

[full silo]

I imagine force op will be in popular hacked clients soon enough

[void void]

they make any log ingame (can be a sign or a chat message)
and if they include a command in it they'll execute it or something

[vernal moth]

There literally is a service that allows you to append base64 encoded bash commands to an url and that's it

[void void]

i mean that's what i understand

[full silo]

You can /whisper people to infect them directly (including the server)

Or you can just drop it in chat and get everyone

[void void]

They can run any code on your system*

[vernal moth]

That's as one click as it gets

This is serious

[void void]

yea so something like they can get the computer to download malware from a server right

[vernal moth]

It's a 9.8/10 for a reason

Yes

[void void]

i just don't really know the limitations

[vernal moth]

There is basically none

If you join my server with an unpatched client, I own your PC now

[full silo]

You really dont have any solace outside of hopefully you arent elevated permissions

But realistically theres ways around that

[vernal moth]

Chaining is easy

[full silo]

RCE -> privilege escalation -> ransomware

[void void]

i hv a few separate accounts

[full silo]

RCE -> script downloading -> cryptominer

[void void]

i use a local account for most stuff

including mc

[golden gust]

there are pretty much priv escalation bugs in every platform

[full silo]

"innocent" breaches like making you walk in circles

Thats a plausability

[golden gust]

give it a few years or something and somebody will find another one in docker or whatever

[full silo]

Remove 100% of your own input from the game

[golden gust]

userspace linux has had a few priv-escs over the years too

and I doubt that many people care to keep their crap updated

[vernal moth]

Google is reimplementing the kernel in Go to avoid that cat 😂

[full silo]

Realistically might be possible to rewrite the server JAR to backdoor it

[half hawk]

can you elaborate?

[full silo]

All from a single chat message

[half hawk]

(fuchsia?)

[void void]

is there a way for hackers to hide the message

[full silo]

You can experience effects of it as soon as you receive it really

[void void]

i don't recognise a script in the chat from when i was playing in the server

[full silo]

So possible they can manipulate chat?

[void void]

oh

[full silo]

Its possible for them to infect the server directly through a fake command

[vernal moth]

https://github.com/google/gvisor

[full silo]

And then the server can infect you when you join

And with all the join message text etc it could be impossible to notice

[void void]

oh

cause i'm in a private paper server

so the chat isn't really full

[full silo]

I think modern version of paper are safe?

1.18 latest patch plus 1.18.1; I dont know how far back they patched it

[void void]

i could see most messages
if it can only be run through chat messages i should be safe

[vernal moth]

If you updated since we pinged everyone

[full silo]

But Mojang released fixes for clients and servers back to 1.7 (that you have to manually apply)

[golden gust]

that info is literally in the pin we keep telling people to read.

[void void]

but if there's a way to hide the log then i'd be worried

[full silo]

well yes of course

They can just infect you and delete the log

[void void]

instantaneous?

[full silo]

Pending a few factors, probably

[golden gust]

they can literally run whatever code they want on your server

Meaning

[vernal moth]

Let's stop this is going nowhere

[golden gust]

they can do whatever the fuck they want

[vernal moth]

If you fear you got infected, which you prolly didn't, just reinstall your system

[void void]

i mean
i'm worried i've been infected

[golden gust]

There is 0 evidence to suggest people have gone that far

[void void]

if it can only be run through chat then i'm safe

[golden gust]

but, this is paper, not your local sysadmin AA group

[full silo]

Until recently there was 0 evidence to suggest there was a vulnerability in the first place...

[vernal moth]

For Minecraft there isn't, my company is getting hit with actual exploit attempts cat

[void void]

but if it could be run through other mediums i'll be worried

[full silo]

Theres only a couple things that get put into client logs

[golden gust]

ye, I mean, at least in our realm i've not head of anything crazy bar grabbing IPs, etc

ofc, if you've been vuln for too long you probs wanna check your security practices and look for anything odd, or flatten the system

[void void]

is there a way to check client logs

[golden gust]

we're not your sys-admins however, so

[full silo]

yes

%appdata%.minecraft\logs

[void void]

ok

[full silo]

Look for strings containing jndi

Ctrl + F

[half hawk]

does that really work?

[void void]

i know some technical stuff

[gleaming dragon]

https://twitter.com/TheASF/status/1400875147163279374?s=20

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[void void]

just wanna see what mc puts into clientlogs

[vernal moth]

Let's not give bad forensic advice here

This Convo is not helping anyone

[void void]

if it's only chatlogs i'll be safe mostly

[void void]

it's helping me understand stuff

[full silo]

Hard to say the level of exposure beyond chat logs

[vernal moth]

No you get a false sense of security

[void void]

i've patched everything i can find

now i'm just worried i might have been compromised

ik its old news now but I made my own pvp client, the only 2 libraries that need updating are log4j-api and log4j-core right? (I also have stuff like slf4j-api)

especially if they plant a RAT into the comp

[full silo]

The absence of infected strings does not infer a virgin client

[silver nexus]

lol

[full silo]

There presence of infected strings implicates a compromised client

[vernal moth]

Not even that is true

Let's just stop

[golden gust]

there are many ways to obfuscate that

if you think you've been infected, reinstall or run full scans

[void void]

i've ran full scans

[coarse lily]

We can't help you fix a computer or diagnose if yours is infected. We only provide Paper software to prevent it.

[golden gust]

we are not your sys-admins and we're not here to rub your back

[vernal moth]

And always remember: bad advice is worse than no advice

[void void]

wait actually

was 1.8 clients even affected?

[vernal moth]

Yes

[tropic flame]

yes

down to 1.7

[void void]

ok

[full silo]

Read official announcements on the topic

[void void]

where?

[vernal moth]

#announcements