general

[void void]

2tb ssd ?

[twin lagoon]

no ssds

[jovial plover]

i dont develop in java or anything mc related

im mostly a webdev

[void void]

no shot bro

how are you running a mc server on hdd

[jovial plover]

80gb hhd

[waxen panther]

web "developer"

[twin lagoon]

ssd caching and not running a shit gamemode that can't scale

[void void]

what gamemode 👀

[jovial plover]

gamemode survival

[twin lagoon]

it's skyblock but not skyblock

[jovial plover]

with some plugins

[void void]

how to turn on ssd cachgine

[jovial plover]

skyblock except it's not in the sky

[twin lagoon]

by using a proper filesystem

[jovial plover]

and it's infinite

[void void]

shut up no offence

[void void]

[warm anchor]

@twin lagoon

[twin lagoon]

@warm anchor

[void void]

what fs?

[twin lagoon]

zfs

[ashen cliff]

[void void]

what distro

[twin lagoon]

debian

[olive marlin]

You keep asking it, despite getting the answer earlier already.

[warm anchor]

Lol

[twin lagoon]

alternatively

buy mcmmo

[jovial plover]

where?

broke af

[waxen panther]

ok

[warm anchor]

Ok

You should take the incentive to learn how or get a job

[olive marlin]

Under here ^^

[jovial plover]

i'll send a pic of all my money

[waxen panther]

dont

i dont care

get a job 😀

[warm anchor]

Pls don’t. No one asked

[jovial plover]

do i run it on the server or my pc

[warm anchor]

You can read

[chrome cosmos]

PC

[twin lagoon]

me

[warm anchor]

And it will tell you where

[jovial plover]

not old enough :)

[twin lagoon]

how old are you

[void void]

he has an amount of money

[waxen panther]

poggers

[void void]

still no ssd tho

[warm anchor]

He’s probably 14

My bet

[void void]

(L)

[twin lagoon]

14 is old enough for a job

[jovial plover]

a one followed by a three

[olive marlin]

Imagine how many cheese Kabanosy and pierogis you can buy 🤤

[void void]

enjoy your childhood bro dont work

[twin lagoon]

BRO! i bought dumplings today

close enough to pierogis

[chrome cosmos]

not in india

[twin lagoon]

@waxen panther when are we playing apex

[waxen panther]

when this new map is gone

[twin lagoon]

is there a new map

[waxen panther]

its terrible

way too big

[twin lagoon]

link

[left swift]

brocc just sucks at gamd

[void void]

apex 🤔

[left swift]

cant adapt

[warm anchor]

That’s what she said

[waxen panther]

https://www.ea.com/en-gb/games/apex-legends/news/stormpoint-map-blog

[void void]

atleast its not valorant 🤷‍♂️

[left swift]

this also what she said to eternity

[waxen panther]

new map feels like ur playin fuckin death stranding with the amount of walking and waiting you have to do 🙄

[warm anchor]

Stop projecting bro

[twin lagoon]

storm point looks like shit from the thumbnail alone

[jovial plover]

My money

[left swift]

cant project it if I live it

[warm anchor]

[jovial plover]

broke moment

[waxen panther]

no one cares 🙂

[mossy vessel]

I do, please tell me more

[warm anchor]

You can make more just going to the park and look under a bench for changes

[jovial plover]

my last £2 went to my server's domain: n*******e.world

[jovial plover]

ok lol

[warm anchor]

You should leave discord at this instant and start making money!

[jovial plover]

no!

[chrome cosmos]

where freenom
lmaoo

[jovial plover]

nope actually

namecheap

[warm anchor]

Can you even register domain when you are 13

Are you breaking tos?

[jovial plover]

my dad paid for it ect for me

i gave him the cash

[waxen panther]

ok

[warm anchor]

Yeah ask your dad to compile mcmmo for you

Pay him

[jovial plover]

i'll pay him up to 15p

that's all i've got

lmfao

[warm anchor]

That’s great. Call your dad now

[jovial plover]

fuck off

[silver nexus]

Lol

[jovial plover]

jk but he wont be able too

[chrome cosmos]

13 is the min

mcmmo is super eeasy to cimpile

downlaod zip

extract

gradlew shadowjar

or gradlew build

[jovial plover]

huh

[golden gust]

not a gradle project

[jovial plover]

i have my extracted mcmmo

[golden gust]

if you have the jetbrains crap, just open it with intellij and then package it using the maven tool window thing

[jovial plover]

i use vsc

and atom

[golden gust]

install maven on your system and use the command it says to run manually 🤷‍♂️

[jovial plover]

doesnt it need those dependencies or smth

[warm anchor]

They literally put it step by step with commends to run on the guide

All you need is follow it

[golden gust]

it uses maven so it can download that stuff itself

[spare venture]

if you can’t figure it out maybe you should just buy it because you will have to do this every time a new version releases

[warm anchor]

Barty he’s 13

[worn ember]

i fail to see where thats our problem

[spare venture]

ded hates children

[warm anchor]

It never was ded

[jovial plover]

i have 15p to my name lmfao

[spare venture]

go to a freeway ramp entrance and beg for money

[warm anchor]

I can’t stop staring at the wriggle. I have a problem

[worn ember]

get it from black spigot along with free virus

[warm anchor]

Lmao. The $60 an hour moment

[chrome cosmos]

@jovial plover
https://popicraft.net/jenkins/job/mcMMO/

[warm anchor]

Professional beggar is a thing here

[chrome cosmos]

did you not search mcmmo

[chrome cosmos]

this is in the first page

[spare venture]

being homeless here is pretty lucrative https://www.ziprecruiter.com/Salaries/Homeless-Salary-in-Seattle,WA /s

[jovial plover]

whats that

[chrome cosmos]

mcmmo's jenkins server

[jovial plover]

• [no-ping]

ok??

tf is jenkins

[worn ember]

ok

[chrome cosmos]

shit i am on linux
at 2 fps

[warm anchor]

Just wear shitty and dirty cloth. Put some dirt on your face. Make a cardboard cutout with a sharpie written “veteran in need of food for family” @jovial plover (not very moral though but this is common technique)

[chrome cosmos]

on old school lap

[spare venture]

jenkins is where you can download the plugin apparently

[jovial plover]

tf

[spare venture]

make sure you have a dog, i heard you get a lot more donations

[chrome cosmos]

it is used by devs who are very lazy to compile of their machine
and give to public for free

[warm anchor]

Google “professional beggar”

[warm anchor]

Lol barty knows all the trick

[jovial plover]

i have a dog lmfao

[upbeat falcon]

How to tell a real homeless person from a professional beggar ...

https://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/uk-world-news/how-tell-real-homeless-person-14036611

Dec 15, 2017 ... A 'professional beggar' is defined by the council as someone who is not homeless, has access to accommodation one way or another and who see ...

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[jovial plover]

his name is "Brian"

[spare venture]

okay rub some dirt on the dog and beg with it laying next to you “need money so the dog doesn’t die”

[jovial plover]

does it work lmao

[spare venture]

.try

[limber knot]

https://tryitands.ee/

[jovial plover]

fuck no

[chrome cosmos]

yes
i use it
forget it existed

[golden gust]

they literally advertise it on their discord

[spare venture]

looks like you’re staying at 0.15 “P” to your name

[golden gust]

it's the latest tip of the git tree, you're gonna be more prone to seeing issues from those, but, you'd see them from compiling yourself anyways

[jovial plover]

i have my totally legal copy of mcmmo chilling in my downloads folder

[twin lagoon]

it is legal

[jovial plover]

totally not pirated

[chrome cosmos]

yes tottaly legal

[twin lagoon]

it's not piracy

the plugin is opensource

[jovial plover]

eh true

[golden gust]

It's literally an open source project, licensed under a license which literally lets people pass the jar around...

[jovial plover]

ok

seems legit

[spare venture]

🤯

[chrome cosmos]

is this made by the devs or a troll?

who is trolling the devs

[void void]

Intel Xeon-E 2136 powerful enough?

[spare venture]

for what

[void void]

for 2 servers + proxy + hub

[jovial plover]

for?

[twin lagoon]

it's an alright cpu

[void void]

it doesnt seem considerably worse than the i9-9900k i have now

[spare venture]

depends on a lot.

[jovial plover]

i want that lmao

[void void]

unironically half the price tho

[twin lagoon]

it gets up there

it's not a bad cpu at all

[chrome cosmos]

the best cpu for minecraft will be
drum roll
ryzen thread ripper
runs

[void void]

fair enough

ok so when i buy this

[spare venture]

mac m1

[void void]

it will let me have 2 2tb ssds without fucking around?

[warm anchor]

I mean how many player you have

[twin lagoon]

yes?

[warm anchor]

For 4 its fine

[void void]

like 60-70

[twin lagoon]

you literally tell it not to use soft raiad in the customize partition thing

[spare venture]

that’s a lot of space

[twin lagoon]

and then you have your 2tb ssds like normal

[void void]

okay 🙂

[jovial plover]

this good

4 vCPU
12GB Fully Dedicated Memory
60GB Storage (Enterprise grade SSDs in RAID10)
4TB Traffic Limit
1 Public IP Address

[spare venture]

no idea

[warm anchor]

It will likely be fine with optimization

[jovial plover]

storage isnt

[void void]

i already run optimized 😈

[warm anchor]

Vcpu of what?

Potato?

[twin lagoon]

where are my IoE roles @warm anchor

[void void]

18mspt with 50 players currently

[spare venture]

[twin lagoon]

[warm anchor]

You had it unless you left zzz

[twin lagoon]

ok but i came back a month ago

[void void]

things not the same since tuinity fr 🙏

[warm anchor]

True

[jovial plover]

Intel Xeon E5

[void void]

im not saying spotted leaf is a god

but he is a god

an i worship

[spare venture]

spottedleaf is a part of paper now… and tuinity was merged..

[plucky sparrow]

sorry?

I’m very clearly the only god up here

[void void]

ok dap [The Ascendap]

[void void]

is per server profile solely for catfishing?

[plucky sparrow]

It used to be Ascended but it had ded in it

[spare venture]

why

[warm anchor]

E5 what. There is also a lot of differnt models under that

[plucky sparrow]

And I cannot allow that

[warm anchor]

[jovial plover]

IDFK

[void void]

weekly orgy 🔥

[jovial plover]

oops caps

[spare venture]

paper general has evolved

[plucky sparrow]

It’s been dead since the start of the month 😔

[void void]

general can change topics in the blink of a message

[warm anchor]

Find out if that’s what you gonna buy

Do you buy random shit off people without actually know what you are paying for??

[void void]

ok guys what DISTRO should i INSTALL on my LINUX server

[twin lagoon]

debian

[spare venture]

debian

[void void]

fr?

does it use yum or apt

[twin lagoon]

apt

[warm anchor]

[twin lagoon]

shut up eternity you fucking centos weeb

[spare venture]

apt

[warm anchor]

Lmao

Wtf

How do you know

[void void]

im rocking da centos 7

[warm anchor]

What I was gonna type lol

[twin lagoon]

because you run centos 7

[spare venture]

the timing wtf

[warm anchor]

Lol

[jovial plover]

ubuntu

[void void]

normie spotted

[spare venture]

🪑

[meager tusk]

"normie spotted"

ok

at least it's stable

[spare venture]

balkan spotted

[terse silo]

gentoo

[plucky sparrow]

arch

I use arch btw

[void void]

michael already spoke

should i do a funny disk mike?

[terse silo]

I use arch btw

[void void]

is it plug and play or will i die

[spare venture]

did

[jovial plover]

im testing my mcmmo jar

[void void]

im assuming since its transparent rsync/scp will handle it fine?

[warm anchor]

I don’t see why not

[jovial plover]

what is the best free alternative to spartan

[toxic bone]

why is it weekly

[plucky sparrow]

it used to be daily but COVID happened

[warm anchor]

A mature and friendly community where no one would cheat coz everyone wants to be fair

[twin lagoon]

@meager tusk IDRIZ!

[meager tusk]

BRO.

How is SWAMP germany.

[plucky sparrow]

do u wanna join

[twin lagoon]

What the fuck bro.

[meager tusk]

Am I wrong?!

[jovial plover]

yeah not gonna happen; you know the community

[spare venture]

michael lives in a swamp?

[warm anchor]

I don’t have anti cheat nor anti xray

[jovial plover]

i dont cos im not up yet

[spare venture]

the anti xray one is wild

so many people xray

[void void]

bruh paper literally has anti xray built in

[spare venture]

if you let them

[jovial plover]

enjoy when i xray everything from u

[spare venture]

just do what i do and replace all ores with mushroom blocks

[toxic bone]

no

[spare venture]

no anti xray needed

[void void]

i will xray for mushroom blocks

[toxic bone]

thanks for the offer though

[jovial plover]

air

[warm anchor]

OreAnnoucer is also an alternative

[worn ember]

i will x-ray for who asked

[void void]

https://tenor.com/view/who-asked-did-i-ask-i-asked-meme-get-real-gif-21114957

[spare venture]

oreannouncer is too reactive. you@ban so many people that wouldn’t need to be banned if you just used anti xray

[jovial plover]

mkay, can u dm me a link

[void void]

whats with the [no-ping] thing

[waxen panther]

this guy still here huh

[void void]

do ppl know that you can disable pings in discord settings?

[spare venture]

i say the same thing about you every day

[void void]

there's antixray bypass tho

[warm anchor]

https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/oreannouncer-collects-data-about-mined-blocks.33464/

[waxen panther]

who are u

[void void]

meh

[warm anchor]

Ping alter the color of background on text

[void void]

which best lts?

[void void]

ok and?

[warm anchor]

People with certain disability cannot read text clearly @void void

[void void]

discord high contrast mode

[warm anchor]

Please be considerate

[twin lagoon]

every version of debian is LTS

[jovial plover]

20.04 ubuntu

[void void]

what is ovh commitment?

can you not cancel no matter what?

[twin lagoon]

if you pick a commitment, no

[void void]

seems kinda sus

[twin lagoon]

it's what the name implies

you commit to paying 12 or 24 months

in return you don't pay setup fees and have a discount

[void void]

i dont think i will

can you change it to commitment once you are acutally commited

[twin lagoon]

no

actually, probably

but you can't go from commitment to no commitment

[warm anchor]

You can commit anytime during the paycircle

[jovial plover]

12 months, annual payment
OVH:

[void void]

michael idk how commited i am

[warm anchor]

It will just add onto it if you pay monthly

[twin lagoon]

then don't pick a commitment

simple as that

[void void]

fair

[warm anchor]

But it won’t save you money on month already paid

[waxen panther]

michael idk how commited i am

[jovial plover]

git commit-to ovh

[void void]

it fine

ill know in the first month whether its gonna work

[twin lagoon]

[warm anchor]

[twin lagoon]

[warm anchor]

[silver nexus]

...

[twin lagoon]

can i have a 12 month commitment to brocc

[waxen panther]

yes ?

[warm anchor]

Yes

[void void]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFR3n_NI5Ic

[jovial plover]

sus

[twin lagoon]

that's impressive

[meager tusk]

I have a feeling you have to actively try to get ubuntu to break more than arch though

[twin lagoon]

both are stable enough

[meager tusk]

I'd still wager Ubuntu's a little more stable.

[twin lagoon]

for a simple mc server you can't really go wrong with any distro

[meager tusk]

I'd also take a look at KGBLinux.

It's really taking off.

Very stable, too.

[spare venture]

barty

[jovial plover]

the mcmmo jar works

[spare venture]

nice

[jovial plover]

nice

guys do this

git commit piracy

my server crashed fuck

[warm anchor]

[spare venture]

this is bullying

[void void]

where can i take a linux crash course

[upbeat falcon]

34 Linux Basic Commands Every User Should Know (Cheat Sheet)

https://www.hostinger.com/tutorials/linux-commands

This includes all of the most popular Linux based systems like Ubuntu, Fedora, Mint, Debian, and others. More accurately, they're called distributions or ...

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[jovial plover]

main thread err

[upbeat falcon]

Main thread terminated by watchdog due to hard crash | - Help ...

https://papermc.io/forums/t/main-thread-terminated-by-watchdog-due-to-hard-crash/8264

Jul 7, 2021 ... so i changed the server version to paper to spigot 1.17.1 then back ... INFO Stopping main thread (Ignore any thread death message you see!

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[warm anchor]

Every possible question known to mankind had been asked at least once on google. So all you need is just intensive googling

[plucky sparrow]

I don’t remember this channel being google 2.0

[jovial plover]

Every possible question known to mankind had been asked at least once on google.
how do i njdjbgalidjhsfzsuikdhjfzukhspdgu

[upbeat falcon]

Determining what process is bound to a port - Unix & Linux Stack ...

https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/9252/determining-what-process-is-bound-to-a-port

netstat -lnp will list the pid and process name next to each listening port. This will work under Linux, but not all others (like AIX.) ...

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[plucky sparrow]

@spare venture I will rip you apart

<3

[jovial plover]

restart the server

[warm anchor]

Have you try restarting the service

[spare venture]

because something else is probably bound to it? and i just told you how to check?

[jovial plover]

you might have 2 nginx's running

[spare venture]

have you checked what processes are listening to that port

[jovial plover]

restart the server

[spare venture]

fresh instance, have you tried just reinstalling the OS

[void void]

does forceupgrade just load all chunks?

[spare venture]

no

[void void]

how do I join this

what happens if forceupgrade runs into a corrupted chunk?

[spare venture]

it upgrades the chunk to the most recent format

[void void]

by loading it?

well

not physically but

[spare venture]

no it does not load chunks as far as i know

it would go a lot slower if it was loading chunks

[void void]

im asking would paper fix the region file headers of chunks in force upgrade mode?

[spare venture]

describe the root issue before asking for help on your attempted solution

region files are corrupted?

[plucky sparrow]

oh..

you wanna join 🥺?

[void void]

some are

[spare venture]

simplest solution is to restore from a backup prior to when they corrupted

[void void]

id like for them to all be fixed

its not "corruption" its that the chunks are in wrong location for some

but paper automatically fixes them when loaded

id like them all loaded and fixed now

[spare venture]

ah

[void void]

I was an atheist, but now that I've seen your religion, I think I have changed my mind 🙏

[spare venture]

idk if chunky does this but use it to load all chunks in your world

i know worldborder did it

[void void]

i do not wish to generate chunks

[spare venture]

but chunky by default skips over generated chunks. see if they have an option to force load every chunk

[void void]

only load them for enough time to load entities/things

[spare venture]

chunky generates chunks by loading them

[void void]

entities are corrupt a bit aswell, some duplicates here and there

[plucky sparrow]

omg 😭

finally

it’s been only me for so long 😭

Alright

[toxic bone]

I didn't even realize the was the bible channel

[plucky sparrow]

Here’s the things you need to provide me in order to join my religion:

1. Address
2. Credit card info
3. Health report

@void void

@ me when you have all of it ready 🥺

[magic river]

Wait a minute this sounds like Scientology

[void void]

imagine if windows was based on linux

[magic river]

Credit card and orgies

[void void]

tom cruise approves

[void void]

I don't have a credit card 👉🥺👈

[void void]

Shit, you're right

[magic river]

Your name isn't Waffle though...

[plucky sparrow]

Uhm

Bank account?

[toxic bone]

It's my house

It's spelled wrong on maps

[void void]

yo im mad about this

why after 20 years does filezilla not have a confirm prompt for drag and drop

[magic river]

No one uses filezilla

[void void]

you can literally fuck your shit up in 2 drag

[plucky sparrow]

Huh what

[void void]

dont tell me you use winscp

[plucky sparrow]

I do

[magic river]

No one used that shit 20 years ago either

[void void]

what else is there

[magic river]

WinSCP

[toxic bone]

use winscp

ez

[void void]

winscp is so ass

i hate it

its stupidly slow to do anything

[magic river]

It probably also doesn't have a confirmation prompt on drag and drop because that's a weird thing to want

[void void]

connecting is slow, listing directories is slow

[toxic bone]

Get good

[potent fossil]

hi

[twin lagoon]

winscp

[void void]

move your mouse once on accident and you moved home to root or smth

[plucky sparrow]

Why is ssh faster on Linux than on windows

[void void]

and you are fucced

[magic river]

If you mean WinSCP sucks at FTP then I have no idea, I haven't used that in more than 10 years

Why are you root?

[void void]

im not

[toxic bone]

just move home back to root ez

[void void]

ok lets say move world folder to world_nether

[potent fossil]

you wouldnt be able to move home to root unless you're logged in as root

[twin lagoon]

pimple

[magic river]

Ok but does Windows Explorer prompt you when you fuck that up?

[potent fossil]

hi michale 🥺

[magic river]

Wait do you mean you want an overwrite prompt?

[void void]

are there any other ftp things that are fast like filezilla but are actually safe?

[twin lagoon]

winscp

[magic river]

It is kind of weird if it doesn't prompt for what to do about files with the same name

Do you seriously use FTP?

[void void]

winscp is ass + slow + bloated

[toxic bone]

your just a noob

[twin lagoon]

it's not

[tropic flame]

i do

[void void]

what else would i use

[magic river]

Holy shit

[tropic flame]

because WinSCP just decided to be absolutely buggy in my system

[potent fossil]

they probably use SFTP and call it FTP cause they dont know better

[tropic flame]

so i ditched it

[void void]

Highly doubt it

[tropic flame]

and i have absolutely no problems with it

[potent fossil]

do you log into it with port 21 or 22

[magic river]

tbh I use scp and ssh, I only use WinSCP to get things from my seedbox because I'm lazy

[potent fossil]

(or 2122/2222)

[void void]

i use sftp

[potent fossil]

there you go

[void void]

i have windows on my home machine

[potent fossil]

and i typically just do things through ssh

get WSL

[tropic flame]

WSL

get MSYS2

[void void]

what

[potent fossil]

windows subsystem for linux, then use regular ssh tools on your windows pc

[twin lagoon]

fyi

[magic river]

For real though, I thought Filezilla died when Firefox became a thing

[twin lagoon]

ssh is built into windows

[void void]

why is winscp so ass, i could easily code a way faster ftp client

[potent fossil]

powershell pog?

[twin lagoon]

winscp works fine

[void void]

Do it then

[lament patio]

What

[void void]

is it the remote sites thing

[twin lagoon]

no

[tropic flame]

idk but now firefox doesn't have FTP support anymore so 🤷

[potent fossil]

stop calling it ftp, you're not using ftp, you're using ssh with a fancy client

[void void]

have you ever tried opening a playerdata folder in winscp

[twin lagoon]

yes

[plucky sparrow]

You can ssh with powrshell

[void void]

it loads for 5 minutes then stops responding

[plucky sparrow]

just like you usually would on any other os

[void void]

filezilla loads it in 10 seconds no BS

also winscp caches directories forever to compensate for how slow it is

[magic river]

I don't mean because Firefox could do FTP, every browser could back then. I mean because Firefox kind of killed off Mozilla Suite and the use of XUL outside of Firefox itself

[twin lagoon]

filezilla does the same

lol

[void void]

the cache isnt as long + filezilla is just fast

[twin lagoon]

still caches

[void void]

winscp be showing me shit from 2019

[tropic flame]

not their point

[twin lagoon]

The cache is temporary, i.e. not preserved between sessions.

[void void]

the problem with winscp is that its 1 threaded

[magic river]

Apparently Filezilla either never actually used XUL (although I swear it was a Mozilla Suite addon...) or ported to wxWidgets

[void void]

which for networking programs is bad

oh also file transfers are faster on filezilla aswell

[potent fossil]

:L

[lament patio]

FileZilla is as about as fast as WinSCP for me 🤷‍♂️

[void void]

not by much tho

[tropic flame]

FileZilla works just fine so idk what is y'alls fuss against it either

[void void]

it works fine until you nuke your server by misclicking

[tropic flame]

huh

[potent fossil]

The creator putting backdoors and stuff into it @tropic flame

[magic river]

Explain to me how multiple threads on the client make an ls call on the server go faster

[void void]

(its happened to me before)

[twin lagoon]

both FZ & WinSCP are fine

[potent fossil]

or did you miss that

however, it's fine now afaik

[void void]

its not that, its connecting

on winscp its so slow

[lament patio]

My only issue with FileZilla is how it doesn't respect file associations, and that I prefer WinSCP's UI

[tropic flame]

i actually absolutely did, idfk when that was

[twin lagoon]

i highly doubt the two clients will make any difference in upload speeds

[limber knot]

rsync or gtfo

runs

[potent fossil]

it was a while ago and he got flamed for it and removed them

so i think it's fine again

but got a bad rep

[void void]

filezilla had backdoors?

isnt that shit popular tho

[potent fossil]

yes which is why it was weird, and perhaps not backdoors but some sort of malicious code

[magic river]

Depending on how busy my server and ISP are I can use WinSCP to download stuff at like 12 MB/s

I'm guessing the limit isn't WinSCP even there

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FileZilla#Bundled_adware_issues

[potent fossil]

right, adware

[void void]

problem with winscp is basically its just bad productivity wise

you have to wait around alot

[limber knot]

I mean, adware has been an issue with lots of free/open programs for ages

that's a long way away from a backdoor though lol

[golden gust]

I just use rsync, or SCP, or basically ssh + tar for folders with stupidly small files

[potent fossil]

yes, i called it the wrong thing

but thanks phoenix for showing up after the fact to make sure you say it again

[magic river]

Yeah I dunno if you're using FTP for real or if WinSCP and whatever SSH server you're connecting to just hate each other but WinSCP isn't slow for me

[void void]

ive used winscp for about a year

[magic river]

You keep going back to it being slow for all of your complaints but that seems an awful lot like a you problem

[void void]

filezilla for a year before that

[limber knot]

because doing some own googling, reading a linked website and responding one minute later is "showing up after the fact" sure

[void void]

i miss filezilla honestly

[twin lagoon]

just trying out filezilla & winscp on opening a directory with more than 150k directories

both are stuck loading for more than a minute now

tl;dr both suck

[void void]

i just wish they would add that ONE thing so i can go back

[magic river]

The bundled adware was hijacking browser home page and search engine settings

And apparently some of them were buggy causing the system to BSOD (which normal users would just report as a sudden reboot)

[limber knot]

wasn't that a general issue with sourceforge.net bundling all downloads on the site though back then and not specific to FileZilla?

https://www.ghacks.net/2013/07/17/sourceforges-new-installer-bundles-program-downloads-with-adware/

[magic river]

That instance was but Filezilla didn't move and has its own adware in the installer

[limber knot]

that's the source on the FileZilla page

[twin lagoon]

both winscp & filezilla are frozen now

[golden gust]

Kinda makes you miss the days of the wire with the lime and how you'd get surprise adult material randomly when tryna look for something else

[limber knot]

also pretty sure sourceforge stopped doing that at some point

"After SourceForge was sold to BizX in 2016, DevShare was discontinued.[49][50] On May 17, 2016, SourceForge announced that they were now scanning all projects for malware, and displaying warnings on projects detected to have malware.[51]"

[magic river]

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/filezillas-use-of-bundled-offers-sparks-outrage-from-users/

2018

[spare venture]

soulja boy became popular because he uploaded his songs under a title of a popular song

on limewire

[golden gust]

I mean, that was only what feels like a year ago or so

[magic river]

https://filezilla-project.org/sponsored_updates.php

[void void]

cool story

[limber knot]

tbh. ad/sponsor tools/network providers not checking what kind of shit gets offered via them has been an issue for a while, pretty sure even google ads ran malicious code at some point

[jovial plover]

what is a good free anticheat

[limber knot]

and people unfortunately often resort to putting ads on their sites/into programs that they don't verify themselves to at least make soem money from their work :S

Updated NoCheatPlus

[jovial plover]

ok

[limber knot]

imo people running ads/sponsors should be legally responsible for what is displayed, installed/executed.

[jovial plover]

wht are u a bot

[wispy blade]

yes

[jovial plover]

why*

[slender niche]

How do I start a server with PaperMC?

[wispy blade]

definitely not our IRC bridge

[magic river]

Open source stuff should either be something your work is paying you to do or a passion project

[void void]

Advanced AI

[twin lagoon]

have you ran a minecraft server before

[void void]

Wut

[magic river]

Sometimes those passion projects can turn in to full time work either via patreon and similar or getting a company to pay you to do it

[plucky sparrow]

You politely ask it to run

[magic river]

Trying to make money from your passion project via scummy ads or malware is just weird

[plucky sparrow]

You need to be very gentle as well

[limber knot]

unfortunately not everyone can market their project/themselves in a way that attracts people to give you money so they resort to ads :S

[magic river]

It probably means the passion is gone but you don't want to give up the project

[plucky sparrow]

You don’t want to hurt his feelings

[void void]

In all seriousness, make a startup script

[jovial plover]

what is a good free alternative to featherboard

[void void]

.startmc

[limber knot]

https://startmc.sh

just look at youtube, it's full of shit that's just made to earn ad revenue lol

[slender niche]

I haven't run a server because my pc has no ram, does this save ram compared to other servers?

[twin lagoon]

no

[limber knot]

or TV programs

[void void]

Why do you keep on asking the same questions lol

[limber knot]

low quality content to reach maximum viewership

[jovial plover]

i haven't?

[magic river]

https://www.amazon.com/Adjustable-Table-Featherboard/dp/B001DSY63A

[void void]

Yes you have

[limber knot]

dumb it down enough and you get a multi million dollar industry around "kick around a ball for 90 minutes"

[upbeat falcon]

Free Alternatives to featherboard? | SpigotMC - High Performance ...

https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/free-alternatives-to-featherboard.440634/

May 23, 2020 ... ... if there were any good, free alternatives to featherboard out there. I already tried a few like scoreboard-r and TAB's premium plugin...

Requested by chad. - About 2,210 results (0.24 seconds)

[lament patio]

Google "scoreboard plugin site:spigotmc.org"

[spare venture]

but seriously, stop asking us questions that are answered on the first result on google.

[plucky sparrow]

Fr

[potent fossil]

no, papermc is google didnt you know

[plucky sparrow]

😔

[jovial plover]

what the fuck

rudeness to people attempting to get help

[potent fossil]

we will gladly help if you have an actual question and have shown you have attempted to find a solution to it yourself

you are just asking us to go search the internet for you

do it yourself, then come ask us if you can't get results

[jovial plover]

phoenix616

[plucky sparrow]

Does this look like fucking #paper-help

It might not be easy to tell

But #general and #paper-help have two different names

[potent fossil]

chill out, even paper-help is not for simply getting google help

[jovial plover]

is this it? https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/updated-nocheatplus-1-4-5-1-17-1.97324/

[limber knot]

uh, use the official links on the github

[plucky sparrow]

This dude has been asking shit questions in #general for a while already

[limber knot]

no idea if this is a re-upload

[plucky sparrow]

He just happens to be back

[potent fossil]

Ok, then report to modmail don't rage at them

[golden gust]

.ncp

[limber knot]

https://github.com/Updated-NoCheatPlus/NoCheatPlus

[jovial plover]

thanks

[void void]

does ncp just stop movement hacks?

and really blatant nuker-type stuff?

[twin lagoon]

primarily

[limber knot]

just take a look at the check list

[mental meadow]

it does have a few nice checks

[void void]

where

[mental meadow]

I know it can also do line of sight, packet/chat/whatever spam, and so on

[void void]

found it 👀

[void void]

this is like 1.0 tho

2011 type stuff

[potent fossil]

uwuwa do you wanna rate the photos i took yesterday 🥺

[mental meadow]

only if you rate mine simple

[potent fossil]

ok 🥺

[jovial plover]

who linked me to a vanish plugin the other day

[mental meadow]

they are a bit out of focus but now I know why

[marble lark]

uwuwa

[potent fossil]

Damn 😍

[jovial plover]

cool

[void void]

nice

[golden gust]

Almost like simples hopes and dreams

[potent fossil]

i didn't take star pics, just went to a local nature preserve beach

https://imgur.com/gallery/YccPGgq

[jovial plover]

nice

[void void]

nice pics

[mental meadow]

that looks epic

[potent fossil]

did you forget to go into manual focus for your stars or what happened?

[mental meadow]

I wish I had more nature like that here, I love beaches and big lakes etc

[potent fossil]

me too, i had to drive kinda far

[golden gust]

Yea, I love Baywatch too

[potent fossil]

👀

this one was my fav pic cause this lady was having pics taken on the actual beach and they walked into my frame so i was like "ok this is happening" https://i.imgur.com/kAWNAt1.jpeg

[mental meadow]

No, but I just set the focus to ∞ and forgot to manually adjust it

[potent fossil]

oof

still really nice though \o/

[mental meadow]

it was super cold and my lens isn't the best one so I guess it made quite a difference 😄

thx :3

[potent fossil]

I want to get a macro lens but got damn they are expensive

[void void]

assuming the bluriness is from movement during the exposure

[potent fossil]

no the stars were just out of focus slightly

focusing at infinity works for deep sky objects but when pulled out that far, it'll lose them slightly

might be able to fix it slightly with shake reduction tho

probably just needed to barely turn the focus ring and it would have been sharp like a tack

[magic river]

Surely VanishNoPacket is still the go-to plugin here

I actually didn't know that plugin existed when I started trying to put its functionality in to the server (which was how I got involved in Bukkit)

[limber knot]

but it doesn't have a GUI!!111 /s

[magic river]

I just knew the old school Vanish plugin was easy to bypass and figured out how to mod CraftBukkit to fix it for the nerd.nu server

Although I didn't catch everything, for some reason sounds a player/entity makes aren't linked to the entity tracker

So mbax had to come in and wire up stopping footsteps and such (which was the part that kept breaking on updates too)

We always just flew when vanished so didn't notice

[limber knot]

lol

[wispy blade]

i still wanna learn how to play the guitar

but im already busy with trombone so aaaa

[golden gust]

Step 1) grow long hair

[wispy blade]

done

[golden gust]

We're stuck at the same step then

[wispy blade]

lmao

i dont wanna go self taught cuz i mighti develop bad habits

[spare venture]

supervanish has been my go to for a while

[magic river]

supervanish doesn't even have a GUI, what makes it better than VNP?

[limber knot]

tbh it looks like it has some nice features but misses other stuff that VNP offers (like per type interaction toggles)

also no cool unvanish thunder and bat effects ;P

[magic river]

I swear those only exist to troll PermissionSex users

[plucky sparrow]

Permission

Sex?

[upbeat falcon]

Overview - PermissionsEx - Bukkit Plugins - Projects - Bukkit

https://dev.bukkit.org/projects/permissionsex

Aug 25, 2011 ... PermissionsEx v1.23 is currently unsupported. A version compatible with modern Minecraft, including Sponge, Paper, Fabric, Bungee/Waterfall, ...

Requested by Amaranth - About 641,000 results (0.22 seconds)

[plucky sparrow]

thats

sEx

[golden gust]

Cept for once a year

[pastel reef]

Hi, I host my Minecraft Servers on my own hardware and I was wondering if it is in anyway beneficial to give the server frequent breaks (about once every second week for 2 hours at a time).

[potent fossil]

o_o

[magic river]

Nope

It might be beneficial to restart the JVMs every so often or restart the OS to install updates or something but there is no need to turn it completely off at any time

[limber knot]

it might actually hurt your hardware if you let it cool down and heat up again 👀

[magic river]

mmm thermal cycling

[void void]

supervanish is spagetti code

would steer clear

[quick pasture]

just give the server some rest by calling Thread.sleep on the main thread every now and then 😳

[void void]

the server took a nap 😭

[chrome cosmos]

ewwww don't compare it to hibernate the biggest useless plugin

[upbeat falcon]

Hibernate | SpigotMC - High Performance Minecraft

https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/hibernate.4441/

Hibernate is a very simple plugin I use in all my servers. It will reduce CPU usage to about 0-1% when no players are online on the server. This ...

Requested by sharvesh - About 2,560,000 results (0.26 seconds)

[potent fossil]

does that thing literally sleep the main thread on purpose

[golden gust]

Yes, ofc

[potent fossil]

holy fuck

[void void]

Intel Xeon-D 2141I worse single core performance?

but more expensive why

sure it has more cores but its clocked lower

[golden gust]

because they're different lines of CPU

[void void]

left is better for mc server?

[potent fossil]

because not every host sells dedis with the sole intention of running minecraft servers

[limber knot]

.g single thread performance benchmark

[vernal moth]

https://streamable.com/u5s4l1

I made a thing!

[magic river]

...why do people want to have sex with Vaporeon?

[left swift]

what

amaranth do you need to tell us something

[vernal moth]

https://github.com/MiniDigger/MiniTestFramework

wonderful code

[golden gust]

Brought to your by beer! ||Also known as the reason you're alive||

[magic river]

NSFW https://www.twitchquotes.com/copypastas/3991

[left swift]

[vernal moth]

https://i.imgur.com/iBVgxQH.jpeg

this is actually pretty fun

/test runall just spawns in all structures and executes my scripts

I wonder if its actually worth it to setup a few integration tests for paper

[quick pasture]

what do u want to test?

[worn ember]

How else would you do it

[potent fossil]

[hidden harness]

Is that js?

[vernal moth]

yes!

[hidden harness]

How?

[vernal moth]

a plugin 😄

https://i.imgur.com/EkHomWE.png

now with CI=true env var!

[toxic bone]

this whole thing is burned into my memory and i hate it

[wispy blade]

yeah

do remember that there's way more degenerate copypastas out there

[magic river]

The JS part of that is probably the easiest bit of it

[meager tusk]

@vale rune Can i have an asikoll?

[vale rune]

30 cent.

@meager tusk jo 25 se dimrit frigoriferat shtrejt.

[meager tusk]

Time to reach from the far end. It's fresher in the back.

[vale rune]

Fact!

[wispy blade]

for 25 extra you get a cold one?

[meager tusk]

No.

In Balkan they raise the prices during the winter. Because the fridges are more expensive.

[wispy blade]

hmm

interesting

[meager tusk]

Ok westerner

Try to keep up

[wispy blade]

but makes sense

[little frost]

graalvm stuff huh

[vernal moth]

ye

[void void]

@strange fog

[twin lagoon]

that's not how it works

that would also be tax evasion

[fast scarab]

the paper discord is the perfect place to think about tax evasion

[void void]

Things I will not do:

pay taxes

20% dude

actual eu moment

[cunning raft]

Things you will not do:

talk about illegal activity in PaperMC Discord

and the UK isn't in the EU dumbass

[void void]

im being a little sarcastic

[void void]

WAIT

TRUE

wait so i dont 🤔 🤔 🤔 🤔 🤔 🤔 🤔 🤔

[cunning raft]

[fast scarab]

[brave radish]

meanwhile I still haven't gotten GraalJS working in a Bukkit plugin 😞

[twin lagoon]

https://www.toptal.com/developers/hastebin/about.md the fuck did hastebin.com do

who the fuck thought it was a good idea to acquire hastebin.com and then to change the URL to the most disgusting version

[golden gust]

toptal

'nuff said

[twin lagoon]

and then proceeds to break the API for no reason

[little frost]

the few remaining users are about to be 📉 because of needless api breaking

[potent fossil]

toptal: does that
users: leave
toptal: https://media.wired.com/photos/5f87340d114b38fa1f8339f9/master/w_1600%2Cc_limit/Ideas_Surprised_Pikachu_HD.jpg

[void void]

wait what happened to hastebin

[potent fossil]

why don't you read up literally 5 messages

[void void]

damn

0bin best?

[olive marlin]

Michale, apparently btrfs natively supports converting from ext4 FS to btrfs.
Also @void void since you were asking about it:

btrfs-convert - convert from ext2/3/4 or reiserfs filesystem to btrfs in-place

[tropic flame]

awesome

never liked hastebin much tbh

that thing on the top right corner with the share buttons and stuff always covered the paste's content

i used to use an account at pastebin but nowadays i just log into github and use their gists

[ripe sphinx]

paste.gg ftw

or paste.lucko.me

[olive marlin]

They also bought gitignore.io - thankfully didn't break the API yet. But I rewrite their crap urls anyway:

ignore    !gi() { curl -sL "https://www.gitignore.io/api/${*}" | sed 's#toptal.com/developers/gitignore#gitignore.io#' >> .gitignore ;}; gi

[tropic flame]

i like to have control over when the pastes get deleted too, so

either pastebin or gist is bae

[vernal moth]

Paste.gg or bust

https://paste.gg/credits

You might recognize a few names on there ;)

[potent fossil]

https://i.imgur.com/sn2S7Vp.png

accurate

[wispy blade]

pacman's giving me the option between openbsd netcat and gnu netcat

eh gnu's in the extra repo so more official ig

[worn ember]

gnu makes me think of cows

gnu gnu gnuuuu

[wispy blade]

wait until he finds out a gnu is an actual animal

[worn ember]

Next ur gonna tell me there are real Arches

[void void]

asd

imagine a lossy text compression algo lol

[twin lagoon]

to answer your question no you won't see the compressed size in du @void void

[void void]

how do you know what your disk cap is then 😬

[twin lagoon]

on zfs there's zfs list for that

or zpool list

[void void]

wait so you are using zfs in production?

[twin lagoon]

yes?

[void void]

can java determine free space?

[twin lagoon]

ZFS has existed for a century, battle hardened, dunno why you wouldn't use it

[twin lagoon]

no idea

[void void]

all the zfs talk doesnt seem to be mentioning compression

[twin lagoon]

https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E53394_01/html/E54801/gpxis.html

zstd has been added in openzfs 2.0

[void void]

that list doesn't have zstd

[twin lagoon]

because it's oracle docs and ancient but still relevant

openzfs 2.0 has zstd

[void void]

will ovh let me use zfs

[twin lagoon]

not by default

[void void]

or do i need some knowledge

[floral mesa]

zfs compression + dedup is amazing

[void void]

dedup? is this like something where if you have 2 copies of the same file it only saves one?

[twin lagoon]

si

[void void]

i always wondered why ops didnt do that

not as predictable ig

wait is this a thing

[floral mesa]

also OVH's deployment solution does not take into account for ZFS, that has to be done after the fact or do a manual install over IPMI

[void void]

an operating system storing hashes of every file?

[twin lagoon]

ZFS has deduplication

[floral mesa]

also its block level, not file level

[twin lagoon]

BTRFS has Copy-on-Write

never used BTRFS though but ZFS does the job for me

[void void]

debian + zfs

[twin lagoon]

that's possible yes

but on OVH you'll need to install both from IPMI/KVM

manually

[void void]

"ZFS is scalable, and includes extensive protection against data corruption"

[twin lagoon]

that too

[void void]

how protection from data corruption?

cosmic bit flips don't occur on ssds do they?

[twin lagoon]

uh, the extensive protection probably isn't that relevant if you only have a single disk ZFS pool

[void void]

storage pool 😨

[floral mesa]

the benefit of ZFS really goes down the drain if its a single disk. compression is nice, but if your looking purely for compute, I would just suggest sticking with something like xfs or ext4

[twin lagoon]

the compression makes it worth it to use zfs or btrfs

i use ext4 99% of the time but ZFS if i need the compression

[floral mesa]

Id lean more towards btrfs if its purely a compute node and not for mass storage

[twin lagoon]

i can see why you'd say that

i would potentially agree but i also have no experience with btrfs

[floral mesa]

I run btrfs, its nice, and its very stable to run as a rootfs

[void void]

but if your looking purely for compute?

what does that mean

[floral mesa]

zfs on the other hand has been a bastard child on certain distros

[twin lagoon]

only downside of btrfs is that it doesn't have a proper raid5/6 implementation yet

meh only downside for me is that you'd want ZFS from backports repositories

to get the latest

[void void]

kinda backing out of this compression thing, its not simple enough 😨

maybe if paper used da ztfs tho thats my territory

[twin lagoon]

if you don't understand soft raid you will not be able to get ZFS working

lmao

[floral mesa]

ive had zfs setups that fail on startup because dkms failed to compile or dont include it in the initramfs

[twin lagoon]

haven't experienced that on debian's distributions of zfs

and that's the only one i care about

[void void]

why is windows index so ass

i have this program called "everything" and it actually searches pretty fast

[floral mesa]

yeah, if your looking for minecraft compression, I would suggest lowering map size to something reasonable

[twin lagoon]

it's probably anarchy in this case

sos not an option

[void void]

this is not an option unfortunately

[limber knot]

meh, the jenkins repo ca certificate breaks on my system -.-

[twin lagoon]

now that, is where docker comes in

[void void]

docker another liability 🥶

[twin lagoon]

did not mean you

[void void]

i be basic n shit using screen n shit

ok

[limber knot]

I guess

[floral mesa]

what type of server are you running @void void?

[void void]

survival

[limber knot]

I just don't get why I can't get the local certificate store to update and recognize that site's cert

even wget is complaining

[floral mesa]

any reason why you cant set a map limit?

its built into mc

[void void]

yeah but its not how mc is meant to be played + people already have world border bases

also its not a claims server or anything

[twin lagoon]

in other words

anarchy

[void void]

so ppl can grief and cant just stick em in tuna can

no

normal survival

[floral mesa]

sounds like a your problem. just get a system with more disks and use zfs on that

[twin lagoon]

aaaaaaand we're back to the start

[floral mesa]

lol

no really, compression alone just isnt going to help, your just going to need quite a bit of disk space if you plan on doing things essentially unrestricted

[void void]

I use mcaselector to trim redundant chunks every 6 months or so

[floral mesa]

eh, thats just using more compute power

[warm anchor]

This will be fun ehen 1.18 comes

[limber knot]

oof, I found the issue. you can't have the DST Root CA X3 certificate enabled for the new ISRG Root X1 one to work for Let's Encrypt certs

[void void]

this is so sad

[twin lagoon]

nothing prevents you from using it yourself

[void void]

nah querz is a pro dude

he's been updating through all the versions

[brave radish]

cat has said what he's waiting on several times if you care to peek in paper-dev

[warm anchor]

I don’t see anyway Mojang can biome blend a singular chunk @void void

[void void]

not how it works lul

[warm anchor]

say if you just have one unexplored chunk and you want to trim it

[void void]

no

[warm anchor]

How will it work

[limber knot]

https://scotthelme.co.uk/lets-encrypt-old-root-expiration/ smh

[void void]

chunks are cut based on inhabited time

[warm anchor]

I know @void void

[twin lagoon]

that happened a while ago

did you not have ca-certificates updated

[void void]

one chunk isnt gonna hvae a higher inhabited time

[warm anchor]

What if you have one chunk with low inhabit time @void void

[void void]

think how rare that is

[warm anchor]

I am asking in theory

[void void]

all the chunks loaded tick up inhabited time at once

[warm anchor]

It can happen

[limber knot]

updating it doesn't fix it

[void void]

well then it wont blend idk

[limber knot]

you need to go in and manually remove the old root one

updating the certs was the first thing I tried lol

the issue is that it checked the DST one first, noticed that it was expired and aborted even though it had the new, valid one too

according to this: https://stackoverflow.com/a/69408777/13071477 it should only happen on debian 8 so no idea why it happened for me lol

so apparently there's squid game in Minecraft already lol

[warm anchor]

I ran into weird issue with that back in October but second renew fixed it self for me ^

[void void]

what thats been a thing since day 1

[void void]

i cant find these messages

[limber knot]

haven't seen a single premium resource submission for that yet

[warm anchor]

I saw one

[void void]

it cant be named "squid game" for obv reasons

[warm anchor]

On first week of release

[limber knot]

that usually doesn't stop them, chucky lmao

[warm anchor]

I lost the link though. It was posted in syscraft

[void void]

why are hidden paper config options a thing

[warm anchor]

?

[void void]

if its configurable then why not let it be there 🤷‍♂️

[warm anchor]

What config

[brave radish]

bc dumb users exist?

[void void]

dumb users won't touch it

it'd be nice actually if each option had comments

[warm anchor]

What config????

[limber knot]

pretty sure most are in the docs

[warm anchor]

I don’t know any config that’s hidden!?

[brave radish]

you clearly haven't spent much time in Sugarcane's Discord 👀

[warm anchor]

It’s all in the yml file

[brave radish]

not all of them

[magic river]

Huh, apparently this happened almost 2 years ago now but Intel put out a driver update that disabled D3D12 on some of their older iGPUs due to a security issue

Like, they on paper have the ability to run D3D12 and the driver existed to do so but then they had a security issue and decided the best way to fix it was to make you want to buy a new CPU 😛

[limber knot]

sounds like the Teamspeak way of doing bugfixes to me Kapp

[magic river]

• 4th Generation Intel® Core™ Processors with Intel® Iris™ Pro Graphics 5200
• 4th Generation Intel® Core™ Processors with Intel® Iris™ Graphics 5100
• 4th Generation Intel® Core™ Processors with Intel® HD Graphics 5000/4600/4400/4200
• Intel® Pentium® and Celeron® Processors with Intel® HD Graphics based on 4th Generation Intel® Core™

[strange fog]

yes?

[void void]

im gonna hack cpu operating system

ok new compression algorithm designed for minecraft

instead of storing block data it stores "nice house with 3 windows"

[magic river]

That's already a thing, that's the new chunk format