look at monkemodmail source code then say that again 
#general
wispy blade
marble lark
I memorized several nms methods and still remember them today from my first plugin
wide chasm
I know that back in the day, someone asked me to put my code on GitHub. But I didn't know what Git was, or what GitHub really was, so I just used it as a file uploader. When a new version was released I would manually drag and drop every file into GitHub to update the code. Beautiful 🙂
wispy blade
wtf mini
marble lark
I memorized several nms methods and still remember them today from my first plug...
As I think stef said, "I don't know if I should be happy or horrified that you remember the names"
marble lark
I know that back in the day, someone asked me to put my code on GitHub. But I di...
SAME
HAHAHA
I think I might be the newest person to use git here tbh
plucky sparrow
I know that back in the day, someone asked me to put my code on GitHub. But I di...
Imagine using git pff
marble lark
I only started learning it after joining this server
void void
https://github.com/MiniDigger/Core/blob/master/C_CraftCore/src/main/java/me/Mini...
love the ascii art lol
plucky sparrow
I store my projects on mega
wide chasm
oof
marble lark
prior to that everything was copy paste
plucky sparrow
Way more reliable 👹
marble lark
xdd
void void
literally unreadable smh my head
wispy blade
@void void @wide chasm i'd like to know you guys' opinions on Hema Rookworstchips
plucky sparrow
I have so much stuff on my mega account
vernal moth
And then uploaded using the file uploader of my share host 😂
plucky sparrow
Like I literally upload anything there
wide chasm
Never had it, didn't know it was a thing until you said it
plucky sparrow
I use mega to store important files whenever I reset my pc as well
Conclusion: mega is life
void void
<@456226577798135808> <@!276788573666017280> i'd like to know you guys' opinions...
Haven't had any
worn crest
<@456226577798135808> <@!276788573666017280> i'd like to know you guys' opinions...
hema normal & kaas sausaijes ❤️
wispy blade
go get some
wispy blade
like 1,50 for a 250g bag
void void
https://github.com/MiniDigger/Core/blob/master/C_CraftCore/src/main/java/me/Mini...
what is this formatting
wide chasm
Still have to grade eight people ugh, I've been at this for hours
vernal moth
what is this formatting
Tabs vs space 
worn crest
Still have to grade eight people ugh, I've been at this for hours
youre teacher?
wide chasm
I'm a TA
meager tusk
ahh
wide chasm
Object-Oriented and Functional Programming course
plucky sparrow
what is this formatting
My day was going perfectly fine until I saw this
I thought it was just off on phones
marble lark
what is this formatting
wait till you see:
plucky sparrow
But no
marble lark
plucky sparrow
Sign’t
vernal moth
Sometimes I wonder what would have happened if I would be a few years older when I entered this community
I don't think I could have resisted the urge to work for a big server
vernal moth
My life would be so different
marble lark
i know HAHAHA
plucky sparrow
@wispy blade I found your home
plucky sparrow
.
marble lark
I don't think I could have resisted the urge to work for a big server
me too lel
LOL
marble lark
I don't think I could have resisted the urge to work for a big server
tbh I kinda still do but code is sort of more a hobby and most (all) of it has been for myself
wispy blade
i'm currently procrastinating coding myself a java naml library
marble lark
never actually worked with deadlines and workflows so I probably wouldn't work well on a team with conventions and so on
plucky sparrow
dapsLife.kill();
plucky sparrow
never actually worked with deadlines and workflows so I probably wouldn't work w...
Same
Except it’s a very bad issue for me
wispy blade
dapsLife.kill();
finally, bobenism supremacy
plucky sparrow
No deadline == me no wanna work
plucky sparrow
You could’ve at least put some space between each section 😭
This way it looks fancy
wispy blade
plucky sparrow
back then I think I didn't like spaces
I put way too many spaces
I like to have my statements social distance
marble lark
https://github.com/mrsherobrine/naoMatchTracker/blob/main/src/main/java/me/mrshe...
only odd part i see is
catch (Exception | Error whoops)
I'm haven't done much swing though
(Even though I keep telling myself that I'll learn more Swing and FX)
procrastination 100
wispy blade
abusing error throwing instead of using an if statement
marble lark
I like the field names though
plucky sparrow
I dislike guis
marble lark
totalDurationToStopWipingItEveryButtonClick
averageDurationToStopDeletionBecauseIAmLazy
haven't used it in a while
cuz i haven't played any games in a looong time
that's all starcraft 2 btw
plucky sparrow
Why
wispy blade
changed hardware
and microsoft won't let me reactivate
too lazy to buy a key off of g2a or smth
plucky sparrow
How much do they cost
void void
naomi's just gonna have a burnt in activate windows watermark in her screen
marble lark
looks like Mini had the same package naming as I did when I just started
lowercase.PascalCase
plucky sparrow
Oh no
Screen burn ins
Aka Samsungs biggest problem
You literally can’t get your Samsung phone to not have a screen burn in
wispy blade
naomi's just gonna have a burnt in activate windows watermark in her screen
LCDs don't have burn-in
rn my biggest problem with a samsung phone is that my volume button broke in 2
void void
thank you for the advanced diagram
wispy blade
my brain isn't working i've been playing osu for too long ok
but
i have Hema Rookworstchips and sparkling water so all good
plucky sparrow
I’m heavily considering returning my iPad
plucky sparrow
No fucking app developer is updating to the new damn weird aspect ratio and I want to die
plucky sparrow
Well why wouldn’t they
Like not even fucking Netflix
Or prime video
Thankfully Disney did
wispy blade
refer to above statement
plucky sparrow
Well i doubt big companies such as netflick or Amazon will struggle to adapt their apps to this new aspect ratio
Like come on even GitHub did it
plucky sparrow
@wispy blade wanna create a bedrock server
void void
what happened to our summer host 
wispy blade
<@!338608021791965204> wanna create a bedrock server
no
still working on the naml library
marble lark
<@!338608021791965204> wanna create a bedrock server
I had one but never got round to finishing it
lmao
plucky sparrow
what happened to our summer host <:Sadge:762176776264089600>
Did we get any profits
high turtle
I love infinite ram hack working 2021
ashen cliff
I love infinite ram hack working 2021
plucky sparrow
we should've used les dedodated wam and more swop
Damn it
Well let’s create an autumn host then
plucky sparrow
Exactly
We need to increase our prices as well
512mb ram for 10 bucks
Full swap of course
wispy blade
that's where you start losing customers!
trust me i did 3 years of economics in school
plucky sparrow
No
I’ll just advertise the storage
128mb ram, 120gb nvme (totally not an hdd), 1 vcpu
@void void opinions?
wispy blade
10$ setup fee?
ancient bolt
I don't get how people make so much money off of twitch, it's the most uninteresting, unoriginal content made by some of the most uncharismatic people in the world. I wanna know who finds any of that shit interesting and like...why
plucky sparrow
I think you’re generalizing way too much
ancient bolt
I am not
plucky sparrow
Of course there’s popular streamers whose content sucks
ancient bolt
That's my point
plucky sparrow
But you can actually enjoy some of the streams
ancient bolt
It sucks, who the fuck enjoys it
wispy blade
imo only the smaller streamers have content
whole prawn
cunning raft
you can't just say "who the fuck enjoys it" and call it trash content when millions of people watch it daily
formal turret
right? lol just seems like the content isn't for you
twin lagoon
there's something out there for everyone
cunning raft
like there are obviously people enjoying it
twin lagoon
i don't use twitch most of the time but i've had plenty of streams that i enjoyed before
plucky sparrow
Exactly
If you don’t enjoy streams well it simply might not be for you or you haven’t found a good streamer
vernal moth
Only streams I enjoy is eSports broadcasts or deadmau5 Mondays
formal turret
really it ends up being a sort of a relationship for many people
especially if the streamer talks to the chat often
vernal moth
Which is why it's so dangerous
formal turret
eh, maybe
lean gale
Question for my networking brainiacs in here: I'm taking an Active Directory course, week 1. One of the questions on the Discussion prompt asks, "Which AD domain design would you recommend for a typical mid-sized business? Justify your answer."
My initial thought here would be a single forest multi-domain design, but here's where I get a little confused. If we had the domain "company.com", and subdomains "sub1.company.com" and "sub2.company.com", does the combination of domain and subdomains make this a multi-domain design? I would assume not since there is only one domain with added subdomains.
vernal moth
What has AD Todo with networking?
lean gale
🤷♂️ Sorry if my terminology is off. Still pretty early in this stuff lol.
cosmic raft
Domain in AD isn't company.com
?
vernal moth
Domain is more like, idk, a group or cluster or whatever
Idk how to explain, but AD domain isn't a DNS domain, right?
vernal moth
Am no expert on this, but like, my work domain doesn't have a TLD is all am trying to say
cosmic raft
generally most companies have a single-domain forest
where as microsoft, for example, has multiple domains in a forest
for example
lean gale
Okay, that makes sense. I don't really see where a mid-sized business would need multiple domains
And definitely wouldn't need multiple forests
cosmic raft
generally mid-sized ones only have multiple domains in one case
and that is when a merger happens
lean gale
Gotcha, awesome. Thanks you two!
vernal moth
I can't believe I was sorta helpful on an AD topic
I avoid that shit like the plague
Still not sure if it's better or worse than ldpa tho 😂
Thankfully I don't need to interact with either, other than querying info
And like, as a user
I would hate to maintain it myself, but then again, I would hate to maintain anything admin wise
cosmic raft
Still not sure if it's better or worse than ldpa tho 😂
AD is nice to work with
lean gale
I'm in week one of five for this class haha. Still trying to get a feel for it all. I've only had barebones experience with it in my other courses, but it hasn't been a super headache for me yet.
cosmic raft
have fun if it gets into AD sites and replication :D
vernal moth
Oh god
lean gale
I saw Replication in one of the sources I was using for this assignment. Didn't even bother reading it bc I'm sure it's over my head haha
vernal moth
Azure AD is so fucked with replication
cosmic raft
or things like FSMO and roles
lean gale
oh no week 2
cosmic raft
heh
vernal moth
It takes seconds to replicate, which is fun if I need to create a new user and then redirect so they can set the password. Had to add retry logic cause if their browser was too fast and azure too slow, their account wouldn't exist on the server they got load balanced too
But maybe that's just an azure AD thing
cosmic raft
replicate from where to where?
vernal moth
God knows, inter DC, intra DC, whatever
I just know that my server could query the user, so it was created, but the browser got an error because the user didn't exist (yet)
cosmic raft
within azure you mean? or on-site AD <-> azure AD?
cosmic raft
interesting how it takes a few seconds then
vernal moth
This was b2c too, so those don't ever end up in our on prem AD
Maybe it was an issue between b2c and graph or something, idk, but blaming it on replication made sense
cosmic raft
fair :p
vernal moth
My partner manager or whatever on azure couldnt help, so glad we paid money for that
They just suggested retrying if I get a user not found callback
cosmic raft
lol
vernal moth
This whole project was fucked anyways and I wished we could have just used keycloak
vernal moth
Cause even tho Microsoft sells it as a white label solution, adjusting the UI to your CD means using jQuery to hack the html msft throws at you, until it looks decent
I can bring like the frame, azure will inject the form, then I get a trigger and make the form fancy
cosmic raft
fuck jquery :p
cosmic raft
got a link? :D
vernal moth
This was 2 years ago, seems like the docs look really different now
ancient bolt
jquery is great
vernal moth
They fuck around with JS here, but only mention that you can't use another jQuery version
cosmic raft
jquery is great
imo its useless with modern stuff basically able to do what it was used for
sites like github got/getting rid of it, etc too
vernal moth
I can finally nuke it with bootstrap 5
There you can see the kinda fuckery they expect you to do
I love how they minimized their example cause they are so ashamed of that JS
cosmic raft
lol
plucky sparrow
Is Mojang api down
marble lark
I can finally nuke it with bootstrap 5
till this day i have no idea what bootstrap does
I ended up doing a project that required it without it cause I had no idea what to do with it
rip grades
vernal moth
It's a component framework and provides a few nice utilities
vernal moth
It's really great for prototyping
Then you throw a bit of fresh paint on it and you got a nice site
Pls don't use the default style
ancient bolt
boostrap was the only way I could make a website before flexbox was a thing
it provided really easy to use and understand utilities to do a lot of what flexbox can now do out of the box
untold meadow
bulma is lovely
ancient bolt
and no i don't actually think jquery is great
though it served a really important role in early web development
so I prefer to think of it with respect for what it enabled back then, rather than with disgust for how unnecessary it is now
wispy blade
i just am in love with svelte atm, xd
marble lark
I guess there's a reason I don't like web dev :P
odd that i still find it pretty confusing though
ancient bolt
web dev is the worst
wispy blade
it truly is
wispy blade
web dev in python: exists
ancient bolt
kotlin has a real compilation target to js yes, and is built into the language with support for dynamic etc
all in all, it's pretty nice
GWT is...something else entirely
wispy blade
@marble lark we gotta make Elshout compile to JS for maximum lmao
ancient bolt
GWT compiles java to javascript without any of the actual language features necessary to work well with javascript
wispy blade
i've had the misfortune to have to write java applets
marble lark
i love java, but not for the web please
*Not any web please
wispy blade
if you ran it wrong they'd open in IE 
ancient bolt
IIRC GWT uses the same "FFI through commented out code" setup for calling JS code directly that golang uses for calling C code
which is awful
marble lark
foreign function interface
wispy blade
ah
marble lark
Java's JNI thing that lets you execute native code from Java is one example
that's the first time I've heard of one being implemented in comments though
ancient bolt
finding an actual example of that in GWT is hard, mainly cause no one really uses GWT
wispy blade
man i hope i never have to touch JNI
ancient bolt
but luke can help provide us an example of what that looks like in Go...which is just awful https://github.com/lukegb/obs_studio_exporter/blob/canon/callbacks.go#L18-L40
wispy blade
i've seen some of it while looking at lwjgl docs, and it looks terrible
limber knotBOT
DenWav: it's fine everything is fine
ancient bolt
tried to ping you on discord but you aren't here anymore
marble lark
man i hope i never have to touch JNI
they're making an easy to use API to replace JNI that might be coming out in a few Java releases because of all the complaints they have on JNI lmao
wispy blade
fair enough
ancient bolt
not really "because of all the complaints"
the JDK team also thinks JNI is hard to use, a better solution has been a goal for a long time
limber knotBOT
Man, GWT, a blast from the past
ancient bolt
JNI is good at what it does, though
ancient bolt
Man, GWT, a blast from the past
yeah, I remember debugging and building GWTs for my first programming job. Was (not) fun
marble lark
i've seen some of it while looking at lwjgl docs, and it looks terrible
I think it technically was initially meant only for HotSpot internals which work through shared libraries and for people to embed Java in native code rather than the other way round which probably explains why it's hard to use
marble lark
the JDK team also thinks JNI is hard to use, a better solution has been a goal f...
ah ok
ancient bolt
when talking about being in a managed language calling out to (and getting responses from) unmanaged code, that's a complicated problem, and hard to do efficiently
drifting turret
It's spooky season, there's a distinct lack of spooky plugins available :(
swift root
make some!
marble lark
that's a complicated problem, and hard to do efficiently
That's probably a massive understatement xd
swift root
perhaps one where mobs all turn into skeletons at night
drifting turret
make some!
I'm good at other programming, Minecraft is not my area of experience
ancient bolt
JNI's solution is to do that wrangling in native code, since that's where it actually makes sense. c-strings in Java are kind of an oxymoron
drifting turret
perhaps one where mobs all turn into skeletons at night
I want one that occasionally jump-scares at night or something
Would be super interesting to see people's reactions to thgat
*that
ancient bolt
so the new system is an API for an efficient mechanism in Java to represent how the data should be transferred out of the VM to the native function
where, in the past you would have to write a small native function to hook into the JNI interface to be able to do that transformation in native code (where it's easier) before calling out to the function you really wanted to call
marble lark
ah
ancient bolt
marble lark
JNI is good at what it does, though
iirc one of Panama's branches was supposedly able to outperform JNI grossly
I like how the readme is straight up
"Please don't use this"
xdd
ancient bolt
i have the actual java object in the C code that I can manipulate and call methods on
but I use that object from the native code to convert the value from a Java object into a c-string, which is something I can actually use in native code
I can't actually call methods on the objects directly, I have to ask the env (the running JVM) to call the method that I want
so there's a lot of going back and forth between the native code and the JVM
if you can express before you ever leave the JVM that the string should be converted into a c-string first, that would be much more efficient
as one example of how panama can improve on things
marble lark
I always used to think JNI code was treated as already compiled code and just stuffed in the code cache for later use
never actually realized this much was going on
ancient bolt
if you look at the bukkit_log_info function https://github.com/DenWav/wat/blob/master/native/src/logger.c#L47-L51
and what it calls into https://github.com/DenWav/wat/blob/master/native/src/logger.c#L27-L39
you can see it's really just calling a java method.
Of course that's easier said then done, I have to do all of the things in C manually that the JVM does for you for free
so I have to explicitly turn my char array into a java string, explicitly free now unused memory, etc
this tells the JVM I'm no longer holding on to the reference, so it can GC if I was the only one holding on to it https://github.com/DenWav/wat/blob/master/native/src/logger.c#L38
again, something the JVM does for free
this i how I copy a String[] out of Java into what is effectively a char[][] (C's way of saying the same thing).
Error checking is not automatic anymore, so I have to do it all explicitly, and be very careful about memory management, but the basic things that are happening is exactly what Java does when it copies arrays https://github.com/DenWav/wat/blob/master/native/src/jni/jni_impl.c#L45-L90
marble lark
I do recognize a few of those methods from internal JVM code but I haven't really seen decent documentation for them anywhere
where'd you find out what each one did?
marble lark
that would've made my life so much easier for the brief period I did JNI
I feel like an idiot for not finding the actual docs earlier ._.
ancient bolt
the primary purpose of wat was so I could practice and learn JNI
marble lark
I gave up trying it after the IDE started showing syntax errors everywhere in the native code for the 100th time
good ol' times
ancient bolt
CLioin works well as long as your cmake is setup to find the JNI libraries correctly
ancient bolt
I'd use vim over eclipse
cosmic raft
zml uses eclipse now :(
ancient bolt
my plugin was that bad they switched away from intellij?
marble lark
at the time it was the easiest to download so what can I say haha
ancient bolt
I can understand people who have never used intellij still using eclipse, but cannot imagine someone switching from intellij to eclipse
marble lark
the former is (was) me
I did end up switching back to Eclipse after IntelliJ imploded on itself though
probably will remain that way until I can somehow fix the issue
waxen panther
zml typing poggers
zealous wedge
I switched because I had intellij's debugger just randomly decide it wouldn't stop on breakpoints when I was trying to run tests
but I'd started fiddling with eclipse when intellij had all those indexing issues and I had to invalidate caches daily
cunning raft
worn ember
I had to switch back to VS from rider cuz my breakpoints didn't trigger in rider either lol
tropic flame
I switched from Eclipse/Eclipse to VSCode/Eclipse 🤣
hybrid token
JDK 17 is out though just saying
I know
JDK17 screws some 1.17 gradle builds tho
At least for me
tropic flame
oh
i guess
in my case i just had to switch to a snapshot version of maven-shade-plugin when java 16 was out lmao
tropic flame
just get your JDK from Adoptium
hybrid token
dont want no virus
hybrid token
just get your JDK from Adoptium
Is it good?
tropic flame
yeah it is
remember AdoptOpenJDK?
same team, just under Eclipse Foundation's wing now
austere ivy
I switched because I had intellij's debugger just randomly decide it wouldn't st...
yeah I’ve been thinking recently that I should give eclipse another try. has it improved much? haven’t used it in such a long time lol
tropic flame
- they're checked for TCK-compliance
tropic flame
yeah I’ve been thinking recently that I should give eclipse another try. has it ...
it wasn't that bad imo besides the compile with errors option
hybrid token
how can i install this on fedora? do they have a repo?
hybrid token
Using a package manager
tropic flame
not really, but i added it with alternatives
ironically the only package manager adoptium seems to be available in at the moment, at least officially, is winget
... for Windows 🤣
hybrid token
ironically the only package manager adoptium seems to be available in at the mom...
🤣
I have a windows PC
I use it for dev
I only want this for linux because I'm using a cloud VM solution with a shit ton of specs to host my Website and MC Server
magic river
Got my new router set up with openwrt
SQM, DNS over HTTPS, DDNS, samba, etc
I was actually getting speeds faster than what I'm supposed to get before I turned on SQM
olive marlin
how can i install this on fedora? do they have a repo?
You can always use a separate manager like skdman (for managing Java) or something more general (like asdf)
brave radish
Adoptium doesn't have an apt repo, idk how Fedora's package manager works
limber knotBOT
I mean AdoptOpenJDK had one so I assume they plan to provide one too?
twin lagoon
they're working on ti
magic river
I'm kind of sad those overpriced calculators are the thing everyone knows TI for
There is probably something made by TI in your computer
In the stock market, Texas Instruments is often regarded as an indicator for the semiconductor and electronics industry as a whole, since the company's products are used in almost all electronic products.
unkempt drift
do TI calculators have RPN mode yet? cause if they don't, gonna stick with HP for calculators
magic river
TI independently invented the silicon transistor within months of Bell Labs and invented the integrated circuit
Dude that created Intel did the IC independently a few months later and then took over the world using them 😛
vestal jasper
I just saw a video recently on the inception of mosfets and their impact
And some mention of IC development in there
magic river
Less than 3% of Texas Instruments’ overall revenue comes from calculators, part of the $1.43 billion revenue in the "Other" section in the company's 2018 annual report.
modest path
Does anyone have a list of the arguments against selfhosting a mc server?
brave radish
- Host must be on 24/7
- Some people are computerly inept
twin lagoon
- likely more expensive than a normal shared host or dedicated host if you're in EU because of costs that people don't think of (electricity, reserve hardware for when things break, backups, initial server hardware cost, internet, etc.)
- server hosting may or may not be allowed by your consumer internet server provider
- have fun with ddos attacks
- some people are indeed inept
if you know what you're doing and have a reasonable budget, go for it
or if you just need a temporary play with your friends server
the main factor is just it being more expensive than people think it is
modest path
Thinking about selfhosting with an old debian box + a vps running some proxy pointed at my house that i can shut down in case of ddos attacks
warm anchor
It’s not an issue if his parent pay for power bill 😉
warm anchor
Just use your neighbors WiFi so it won’t be your security 😉
brave radish
that's really a non-issue aside from possible ddos attacks, which isn't really a bigger risk just because you run a MC server for some friends
toxic bone
bluemap is funny
warm anchor
just swapped to bluemap its kinda pog
ist OPPP
left swift
is there anything funky i need to know about it when running a survival server tho eternity
toxic bone
Don't run a survival server you will Cry
brave radish
hello Larry
swift root
hello z c m
golden gust
I just see people giving nomana the support they deserve
potent fossil
hi larry 🥺
golden gust
.g test
swift root
SIMPLEEEE
golden gust
.g simple why doesn't this work
potent fossil
that god damn bot
golden gust
.g please fix it simple
swift root
.larry at YOU, CAT
limber knotBOT
left swift
cat is a trashcan full of old kitty litter that smells like decaying grass from august
potent fossil
.g test
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) Test cricket The form of the sport of cricket with the longest match duration, and is considered the game's... (https://duckduckgo.com/Test_cricket?v=i&kp=1)
thick wharf
potent fossil
?
vestal jasper
The RAREST biome in Minecraft
10 seconds into the video "this feature existed before biomes!"
misleading titles are great
tropic flame
so, a world type, and not a biome?
btw the screenshot of the thumbnail is also a removed feature
you could take isometric screenshots of the world back when they weren't "infinite"
... i guess nowadays you can use dynmap for almost the same purpose
golden gust
sigh
I was gonna insult you
But I don't got the energy and you're not really worth the investment of what I do have left
void void
sounds like something someone who smells would say tbh
left swift
Stinky
silver nexus
this is by far the most interesting server i lurk in
golden gust
warm anchor
wow || senzawa || enjoy zcat
magic river
warm anchor
The older person looks so done in those pic
magic river
The older person is supposedly the Zodiac Killer
meager tusk
The older person looks so done in those pic
he looks sick and tired of that shit
magic river
Neat
potent fossil
it's just another independent group claiming it
it's happened before, quite a few times
but, it could be the real guy, who knows
worn ember
We were talking about the twitch leak that was published on GH and it was instantly taken down cx
Didn't even get to load the page
worn ember
Discord is listening
nimble depot
Discord is listening
cough microsoft owns both discord and github
I kinda wish mixer has not died (at least that let me leave my stream on for days unattended and come to a few dollars worth of donations. People could donate to switch dashboards or look at other stuff)
chrome cosmos
my aunt use that for cooking everyday
magic river
*cough* microsoft owns both discord and github
magic river
Uh
wispy blade
probably not actually
potent fossil
what's reading?
wispy blade
exactly
nimble depot
micrsoft gonna ruin the app
anything is good until a big company touches it, look at how many studios EA killed, facebook killing whatsapp, Microsoft killing skype and so on
wispy blade
microsoft made teams the successor to skype, and im not sure which one is worse
potent fossil
i still use skype to call with my fiancee 
chrome cosmos
video quality and audio quility and network troubles are sooo much trash in teams
worn ember
Sounds like you need a new fiancee
chrome cosmos
but feutures are veryy pogg
wispy blade
never had any problem with teams except for actual runtime performance
potent fossil
Sounds like you need a new fiancee
Sounds like you no longer need a life
chrome cosmos
very resoruce intensiive in my opinion
potent fossil
.kill DED
limber knotBOT
reaches out and punches right through DED's chest.
wispy blade
good one
wispy blade
worn ember
Jokes on you. That's where the cookies were stored
chrome cosmos
https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/834104598154182736.png?size=64
emoji suggestion
nimble depot
microsoft made teams the successor to skype, and im not sure which one is worse
at work we use Cisco Webex
which is great because I can goof around with OBS and a chroma key
magic river
Let's be honest, Skype was always kind of shit
worn ember
Felenov camgirl confirmed
chrome cosmos
obs virtual camera work on teams too
magic river
It was just amazing in 2007 or whatever
wispy blade
Felenov camgirl confirmed
true, he had shown feet on cam before
nimble depot
speaking of, this was kind of how the InfoSecMeter stream was set up (got banned off twitch because I just left it running and walked away for days. Mixer was fine with that)
worn ember
Damn
potent fossil
It is shit, but it's very simple and easy to use, especially for people who are technologically illiterate 
chrome cosmos
obs virtual camera work on teams too
found out by accidnetaly opening obs and getting my screen broadcasted to my class
nimble depot
true, he had shown feet on cam before
that was an accident, I was swapping lenses
potent fossil
It's also, for better or for worse, very ubiquitous
magic river
Still?
wispy blade
yeah yeah definitely an accident
magic river
I kind of thought everyone just moved to using their phones and FB messenger
Computer people moved on to discord and such
potent fossil
In the Philippines it is at least, maybe not so much in the US. But my parents know what it is and how to use it, and teaching them something new is very low on my list
(they are about as computer illiterate as it gets)
nimble depot
we at work use Matrix and Webex (we also have a telegram group and a discord to shitpost in)
magic river
Skype was neat in the time where long distance calling charges were a thing and cell phones didn't have unlimited minutes
nimble depot
most of computer illiterate people I know have moved to telegram
potent fossil
At work we still used Lync (skype for business predecessor)
They may be using teams now but don't know
nimble depot
I remember I used skype back in the day (my client was modified to strip it of the BS it came with)
oh and I used a version of clownfish (I abused it a lot in the day. Was fun)
chrome cosmos
i think electroniccat likes
butt metal
worn ember
oh and I used a version of clownfish (I abused it a lot in the day. Was fun)
Lmao clownfish was the shit
nimble depot
Lmao clownfish was the shit
everyone had it
golden gust
best destination for metal, prove me wrong
nimble depot
some versions gave you adware as a bonus
worn ember
Very cool
worn ember
best destination for metal, prove me wrong
Until it oxidizes
Butt sweat + oxygen = rusty butt metal
left swift
Better clean it with ur tongue
muted rivet
marble lark
but I'd started fiddling with eclipse when intellij had all those indexing issue...
least IntelliJ doesn't show every single line of your code as a syntax error :P
worn ember
time to throw the whole ide away
marble lark
Can't find a good replacement for Kotlin :/
wispy blade
Clojure
worn ember
Can't find a good replacement for Kotlin :/
C# 
marble lark
I only do Kotlin for paperweight tho
never would've used it otherwise xd
C# is pretty neat tho ngl
worn ember
yeah it is
hmm, so this is 3 bytes per color? how does this work? I'm only used to using a single byte per color
does that just increase the tone/color range?
golden gust
it increases how much control you have over the color
instead of being able to pick one of 256 intensity levels of a color, you get more
worn ember
alright, thanks
golden gust
which is often the number of colors which many TVs, monitors, used to say they supported in total 😛
worn ember
imagine watching tv lul
we got locked in our classroom cuz some wackjob apparently got off the bus on campus
potent fossil
Read the rules.
crisp sinew
Read the rules.
Where
crisp sinew
Oh sorry
ashen cliff
Raspberry Pi falls on the floor, SD card snaps.
Orders new SD card.
DOA.
golden gust
oof
ashen cliff
Also got a new USB for potential USB boot...
magic river
I think you broke the rpi, not the sd card 😛
ashen cliff
Actually, default is SD after that USB.
No need to flip the bit anymore.
Nah the PI is fine.
golden gust
oh, nice
ashen cliff
Bruh. Looks like your school is ready. After all the incidents just this week.
ashen cliff
Also got a new USB for potential USB boot...
wispy blade
epic.
ashen cliff
Spare SD card I have: https://posili.me/i/2021-10-07_10-06-51.png
magic river
Oh yeah, this seems like a good time for https://xkcd.com/2520/
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) xkcd: Symbols (24 September 2021)
chrome cosmos
Describe how you made sure that your measurements of the height of the foam
in each test-tube could be compared.
ashen cliff
nm
chrome cosmos
Describe how you made sure that your measurements of the height of the foam
in e...
BRUH how do you even answer this
potent fossil
you use the markings on the test tubes and ensure they both follow the same scale, etc
ashen cliff
As someone who got reminded of why we don't use old laser modules anymore...
chrome cosmos
the diagram they gave literally has a scale
potent fossil
same size test tube, same scale on the test tubes
that's pretty much how you ensure the comparison can be accurately made
chrome cosmos
ohhh thanks guess my nick suits me well
potent fossil
you can compare with different sizes/scales but gotta do some math so, avoid the pain and just ensure they're the same
potent fossil
i've been in too many science classes
marble lark
you *can* compare with different sizes/scales but gotta do some math so, avoid t...
inches and feet and pounds
xd
potent fossil
marble lark
glad I'm not the one one that finds the multiple different units of measurement annoying lel
chrome cosmos
glad india has only metre system
potent fossil
thankfully physics mostly uses SI units, unless you're in america. then power is no longer watts, it's horsepower
marble lark
SI ftw
marble lark
that would just be a horse
magic river
I'm trying to think of what you'd measure in eV that you could even point at your eye
potent fossil
light
chrome cosmos
🐴 🍼 ⛈️
magic river
Sure, you could measure all of it like that but not normally
potent fossil
eVs are just energy
coulombs * volts is just joules of energy
basically, they're implying light, but it could be anything with charge i guess
magic river
Oh hey, you'd think with how much Veritasium I watch I'd remember this but I just realized eV got redefined recently
potent fossil
did it?
i think e got redefined (the elementary charge)
so, yeah, i guess it did
by proxy
they're just electron volts, where electrons just have the elementary charge on them
magic river
All of this shuffling just so we can pretend our measurement for a kilogram isn't arbitrary
potent fossil
our measurement of everything is pretty arbitrary ngl
chrome cosmos
wheww school offline task done
potent fossil
The second is defined as being equal to the time duration of 9,192,631,770 periods of the radiation corresponding to the transition between the two hyperfine levels of the fundamental unperturbed ground-state of the caesium-133 atom.
And you thought time was real
magic river
Better set up a keybind for ℏ then 😛
potent fossil
wispy blade
tfw the reason your program's not working is cuz you're not using the build with everything shaded in
mental meadow
hi kash hi simple
potent fossil
hiiiiii
magic river
Oh kelvin got redefined too
potent fossil
units get redefined all the time
magic river
potent fossil
you almost never need to care about these, you just use the units. they get redefined for more accuracy
marble lark
reminds me of when they renamed Sulphuric Acid to Sulfuric Acid
worn ember
lmao i'm in a classroom with some rando's locked up cuz everything is in lockdown and these guys just blasting music through the audio system xD
marble lark
xd
cosmic raft
lockdown?
worn ember
apparently some mental unstable dude thats armed is roaming the college grounds
we got armed forces at every exit
and we arent allowed to leave
worn ember
they're not my classmates
i was in the studyhall and they told us to go in a classroom
marble lark
stay safe mate
magic river
"I play a game that was built with or uses certain Unity software, what should I know?". Nothing overly egregious, a suite of hardware specs and unique advertising identifiers needed to track users across apps and build a profile on their behavior and activity. Unity uses those user profiles in Unity Ads to serve targeted advertisements and in their analytics services to give insight into player behavior across Unity software they've used.
looks for that little-snitch-but-windows app
I never realized Unity engine (and thus all games using it) are fucking spyware
ashen cliff
So... Genshin?
magic river
Sure
It's keeping track of all the microtransactions you're buying so then other Unity games can use that data to charge you higher rates and offer less sales
worn ember
lmao
ashen cliff
It's keeping track of all the microtransactions you're buying so then other Unit...
Interesting. Good thing I didn't spend a single € in any Unity game.
But I know people who did... A LOT.
magic river
So instead those games will spam you with more sales
You're cheap but if they find the right sale maybe you'll give in
worn ember
popo be chilling
ashen cliff
You're cheap but if they find the right sale maybe you'll give in
Interesting. Tho, most of my games run in a VM anyway. 🛌
And my bank... knows.
marble lark
It's keeping track of all the microtransactions you're buying so then other Unit...
And then there's me just chilling with Unity Personal
void void
Student license go brrrr
marble lark
had to get rid of it yesterday though since I wasn't making any progress
nice engine but little difficult to set stuff up
wispy blade
fucking finally
why did nobody tell me TDM-GCC exists?
it makes everything so easy
magic river
Isn't that just mingw?
magic river
clicking next a few times then logging out and back in is a pain?
potent fossil
yes
wispy blade
i've tried about 5 times and none of those times did vscode and cmake recognize it so /shrug
wispy blade
MSVC also didn't work
wispy blade
and i have no clue why so i just asked my friend to give me an LXD container on his server
way less hassle
marble lark
alternatively if you like self torture you could compile gcc from source directly :P
magic river
...with what?
magic river
iirc the bootstrap project starts with hex editing machine code, builds an assembler, etc up until they finally cobble together something that can compile gcc 2.92
Then they still have to do like half a dozen more gcc builds to get a modern stack I think
marble lark
gcc did have a windows branch that used msvc to compile itself I think but that's at an ancient version
like 2.something
magic river
Those are pre-fork days iirc
marble lark
Then they still have to do like half a dozen more gcc builds to get a modern sta...
that sounds... excessive
magic river
Technically every gcc build should be three builds to verify it works
- Build new GCC with existing one
- Rebuild new GCC with new GCC
- Rebuild again with newer GCC to verify
Steps 2 and 3 should be able to produce identical binaries if you do it right
ashen cliff
Sounds fun rebuilding the world back after the dark age hits.
marble lark
xd
magic river
Which is why you do it three times
marble lark
rip if a different executable results from each build haha
magic river
stage0 starts with a 280 byte program you type in by hand that is an assembler for a "hex0" language then goes to a hex1 language, hex2, a macro language, and finally FORTH for the first "normal" language
wispy blade
why
magic river
Oh wait FORTH was a deadend, they actually wrote a C compiler instead
That's as far as they get so far
wispy blade
@marble lark elshout compiler when
marble lark
I dunno ;)
I haven't learnt enough x86 assembly (And so on) for a compiler yet lel
unless the compiler compiles to javascript
magic river
Another attempt at this starts with MesCC to compile TinyCC which can then compile GCC 2.95 which can then compile GCC 4.7 (last one written in C)
I think you need at least one more GCC version in there before you go to the latest one, possibly two
wispy blade
isnt gcc at v10?
marble lark
yeah
magic river
Sure but you only need intermediate versions if the latest GCC requires some functionality an older version doesn't support
marble lark
either that or 11 I can't remember
magic river
So if the latest GCC uses C++17 features then you need a version of GCC that supports those features to compile it
4.7 doesn't support C++17 so you have to find the earliest version that does and see if 4.7 can compile that
If not figure out what it needs and find the earlier version that can and so on
wispy blade
sounds very very fun
magic river
Mes is a Scheme interpreter that is 5,000 lines of C code and a C compiler written in Scheme, they are mutually self-hosting
That means the C compiler they wrote can compile their Scheme interpreter and their Scheme interpreter can run their C compiler
wispy blade
this honestly sounds like quine relay
magic river
You need something to turn that 5,000 lines of C into machine code though so this isn't the end of the bootstrapping trail
wispy blade
lmfao the copyright notice is so funny in dutch
marble lark
this is where the endless loop of bootstrapping insanity kicks in
wispy blade
idk the words "vrije software" are still just hilarious to me
magic river
GNU Guix is probably the closest to a practical solution to this problem and thanks to Mes they now only need 60MB of unverifiable binary blobs to bootstrap a Linux distro (don't let them hear you call it a Linux distro though)
Only 60MB...
wispy blade
GNU+Linux distro!
magic river
Oh wait maybe 60MB was before Mes. They started at 250MB, figured out a way to get it down to 60MB, then Mes got it down to half that
marble lark
GNU+Linux distro!
Naomi was found dead the next day, beaten to death with what appears to be a machine running Ubuntu
wispy blade
how dare you assume i run ub*ntu
i run glorious arch!!!!
(and debian on monkegame)
magic river
Ooh, the new project is to modify the Mes code to something that can work with the C compiler from the stage0 project
So then from 280 bytes you can iterate your way up to a full stack
Although you still need to use a prebuilt version of bash and such for now to run the build tools...
They're already writing a new shell in Scheme so you can run it on Mes
wispy blade
what the fuck
marble lark
we gotta do that for Elshout too lmao /s
magic river
Oh btw 60MB is actually the current binary size needed to bootstrap, I was right the first time
And that 60MB is with the replacement for bash and coreutils too
48MB of it is the guile scheme interpreter
wispy blade
damn
twin lagoon
@warm anchor 
worn ember
Well this is a journey... First i get stuck in college for 4h due to lockdown. Now i can't even get home cuz some dum dum decided to jump Infront of a train so all train traffic is blocked too
worn ember
Finally home
marble lark
Well this is a journey... First i get stuck in college for 4h due to lockdown. N...
relatable
marble lark
what ye usin C for tho?
untold copper
day #122 of trying to get abs: no exercise cos my legs are frickin killing me reeee
i die
wispy blade
what ye usin C for tho?
i want to do some native development
and i refuse to touch C.
C++ tho
olive marlin
@wispy blade Rust > *
wispy blade
i know you love rust prof
limber knotBOT
has anyone of you ever tried and managed to move the windows 10 notification toasts to a diffeent monitor without changing the main display?
also on a slightly related note: couldn't they have leaked some useful source code like the one from windows 10 instead of twitch 👀
marble lark
and i refuse to touch C.
Technically it's sorta kinda just C with classes and templates and a standard library with different names for basic purposes tbh
one thing I can say for both though is that being that low level is fun until you actually have to do something with it
olive marlin
Imagine having to manually manage memory.
red timber
imagine having memory
limber knotBOT
if you don't have memory just download more
red timber
500 iq
wispy blade
or make more
marble lark
Imagine having to manually manage memory.
this is why you only ever work with local fields in C/C++ ;)
olive marlin
That's why you don't use functions in C and instead write everything in main?
marble lark
inline everything for more performance!1!1!
vernal moth
I love people digging thru the twitch source code
That's their username filter
I hope they have unit tests for those monstrosities 😂
limber knotBOT
mikehawk = my cock
vernal moth
Wat
marble lark
lmao
CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION is_terrorism
CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION is_child_exploitation
CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION is_hateful
CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION is_harassment
CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION is_violence
say it out loud
marble lark
mi = my
kehawk = You know what
limber knotBOT
I love that they have so many german specific filters
marble lark
why is madonna listed as blasphemy
limber knotBOT
as I said, it's way more obvious saying it out loud
marble lark
I don't recognize any of these at all
CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION is_sexual (VARCHAR) RETURNS BOOLEAN STABLE AS $$
SELECT replace($1,'_','') SIMILAR TO '%r(a|4|8)+y*p(i|1){0,1}ng%'
OR replace($1,'_','') SIMILAR TO
OR replace($1,'_','') LIKE '%schwanz%'
OR replace($1,'_','') LIKE '%cewall_w%'
OR replace($1,'_','') LIKE '%icewoll%'
OR replace($1,'_','') LIKE '%porc_jerme%'
OR replace($1,'_','') LIKE '%porvi__larme%'
OR replace($1,'_','') LIKE '%porvi_larme%'
$$ LANGUAGE SQL;
you don't recognize a schwanz? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
vernal moth
It's German for tail but in this context it means dick
formal turret
Nice
worn ember
at this point twitch should just whitelist words lol
could save them a few hundred queries
limber knotBOT
nah, just go the Fall Guys route and disable user created names
at least new streamers will have random funny names instead of some name+random numbers that they have used since they were 10
whole prawn
oh have you guys seen my new favorite streamer Purple Stargazer Cow Gas
twin lagoon
Optimized AI for Axolotls, Goats, Hoglins, Zoglins, Piglins, Piglin Brutes and Villagers
ok this is pog
marble lark
Optimized AI for Axolotls, Goats, Hoglins, Zoglins, Piglins, Piglin Brutes and Villagers
elfin steppe
can someone actually check on that
marble lark
demet Michael beat me to it
the thing these mobs have in common is the behaviour system instead of pathfinders so they probably removed streams from those classes and called it a day lel
elfin steppe
that was quick lmao
limber knotBOT
oof, my decompiler and patcher is broken
marble lark
the generated terrain is gorgeous though I'll give them that
marble lark
oof, my decompiler and patcher is broken
?
limber knotBOT
it only decompiled and patched the resource bundler :S
elfin steppe
if they actually optimized villagers im gonna be surprised
marble lark
apparently they changed the packing of the server in 21w39a
oh god again
wait i read that as package names nvm
void void
apparently they changed the packing of the server in 21w39a
They now put dependencies into a seperate folder iirc
Upon first boot
prisma geyser
hi can i ask some thing
olive marlin
.ask
limber knotBOT
If you have a question, please just ask it. Don't look for staff or topic experts. Don't ask to ask or ask if people are awake or available. Just ask the question to the channel straight out, and wait patiently for a reply.
prisma geyser
uh so if i want to get my server from 1.17 to 1.18 does it need to reset world or not
void void
Probably not
limber knotBOT
they changed quite some stuff regarding the AI and behaviour design
olive marlin
No, Mojang is working on migration for worlds.
AFAIK not everything is done yet though.
summer rivet
is there any way to get smooth transition betwenn highmap and biomemap changes? When ungenerated chunks get generated from a newer version that the world was started
limber knotBOT
not really
ashen cliff
Simple solution? Keep the world at the old height and call it a day.
untold copper
we want morrr height
thats what she said
untold copper
gotta have a she before she can leave you
ashen cliff
we want morrr height
Or just make it go up but not down. 🛌
worn ember
Or just make it go up but not down. 🛌
delete the world
summer rivet
Or just make it go up but not down. 🛌
there would still be huge walls and other biomes, I dont wanna waste 100000 years to touch it with worldedit... (would that even work for such many walls)
ashen cliff
No need for that.
wraith nacelle
anyone tried the 1.18 snapshot yet?
plucky sparrow
Is it just me or the YouTube feed is kinda worse than it was?
It keeps recommending me videos I’ve already watched
wispy blade
yeah
austere ivy
discord canary is giving me a 404, anyone else having this issue?
worn ember
It keeps recommending me videos I’ve already watched
Yup
plucky sparrow
It’s so annoying
potent fossil
Morning
void void
discord canary is giving me a 404, anyone else having this issue?
When is it erroring?
potent fossil
It keeps recommending me videos I’ve already watched
It's annoying but click the little dots to the bottom right of each vid you already watched and press don't recommend, then tell us why and choose already watched. If you keep doing it for all of the ones you watched it'll eventually stop
I haven't done that for a while cause it takes a little bit lol but yea
plucky sparrow
It's annoying but click the little dots to the bottom right of each vid you alre...
oo i didnt know
i'll do that
thanks
strange raven
what location would get the best ping for US and Dubai
magic river
wtf, Intel removed ASTC from their GPUs
potent fossil
You gotta do it for all of them ded until no more already watched ones show up or at least they're quite rare every reload
Like I said, it's annoying
magic river
I guess they decided either software decompression is fast enough (but bandwidth though) or they don't give a shit about the mobile market anymore (where ASTC actually saw use)
mesa has code to automatically support ASTC in software, it means every driver in Linux claims to support ASTC but for most GPUs that just happens on the CPU before sending the texture over
Although they have an option to transcode in to DXT5 to keep the bandwidth and memory savings, at the cost of even more CPU time and some quality loss