general

[untold copper]

1.16.5 modded is much better compared to 1.12.2 modded

oof skyopolis has mekanism

thats a no for me

[olive marlin]

Not a fan of mekanism, cause it's too OP.

But it is quite locked down here.

[wispy blade]

wtf, prof new pfp?

[untold copper]

so no 5x ore multiplication??

[serene bolt]

oh have forge modpacks finally moved past 1.12? :P

[untold copper]

yeah

[olive marlin]

My server artist made it some time ago, just forgot to change. But yes.

[untold copper]

like, a LOT of them

[serene bolt]

what's the new "go to" version, 1.16?

[untold copper]

ye

[olive marlin]

Yes. Create mod

[untold copper]

puremin

i have a modpack

its uh

trash tho lol

anyways take a look

https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/modpacks/mr-snipas-enhanced-minecraft

[olive marlin]

I think there is still, I had trouble with getting 3x to work because of being locked down. Only recently did it. Osmium is heavily limited, cause you only can mine it in the nether.

[untold copper]

ah

[olive marlin]

It definitely requires you do to a lot of automation for many things, using limited resources.

First time I automated lava flowers in botania. Definitely like it better over the stupid endoflames with coal.

[untold copper]

automation

limited resources

no.

[olive marlin]

Create is a pain to automate sometimes, because you can't use external tools for it and are stuck with create ecosystem.

But that's mostly because I don't know it yet.

[untold copper]

create gets old very fast

just saying

[olive marlin]

Idk, I'm enjoying it so far.

[untold copper]

gets old

[olive marlin]

Though not looking forward to automating blazing cake production and feeding, hopefully won't need it.

[untold copper]

watch RagePlaysGames

for expert create mod tutorials

[olive marlin]

I like figuring things out on my own, don't need someone to just feed me solutions. That's boring.

[untold copper]

trueee

well

i try this zombies modpack

because why not

[wispy blade]

project ozone 2 still my fav ❤️

[foggy veldt]

I’m the same way until I realize I’m not misinterpreting the instructions, progression is bugged in version 2.01a of the mod

[low niche]

@full rune

[lavish compass]

ZGC

[worn crest]

grafana?

[lavish compass]

yes

[worn crest]

ah i have netdata

[lavish compass]

Is there a way to get ZGC pause times with GarbageCollectorMXBean

[golden gust]

if they don't expose it in the bean, no

[lavish compass]

rip

[golden gust]

That was literally one of the things that we've consistently said about ZGCs reporting...

And, "pause times" are already complex with how that bean is expected to work and how ZGC actually works, as I'm pretty sure we went over...

[lavish compass]

My bad, I haven't really seen those conversations here

[golden gust]

maybe wrong person, the thing comes up so often it's stupid

[lavish compass]

this is the first time i talked about zgc here

[hidden lance]

Hey everyone does anyone know how I can get the anti xray enabled on shockbyte for overworld and nether?

[wispy blade]

.xray

[limber knot]

https://gist.github.com/stonar96/ba18568bd91e5afd590e8038d14e245e

[hidden lance]

Ty and I got it enabled for overworld now that was easy 👍

[warm anchor]

Yeah the number shown on it using zgc won’t be accurate. People here have more experience than other community like zcat 👍

[mental meadow]

!warn @pale summit This is not the place to advertise

[thorny flicker]

:raised_hands: Warned TheFloyds4240#5681 (This is not the place to advertise) [1 total infraction] -- aurora#4484.

[pale summit]

oh, where can I?

[mental meadow]

Not on this discord. Read the rules

[pale summit]

👍

[twin lagoon]

[ashen cliff]

https://posili.me/i/2021-08-20_16-52-51.png

@twin lagoon explain.

[twin lagoon]

Sus

[ashen cliff]

Amogus.

[next frost]

why are you interested in ZGC pauses in the first place?

[royal kernel]

I love it when my server gets stuck loading bukkit resources

[ashen cliff]

To flex.

[next frost]

fair

[worn ember]

your name sounds familiar

[waxen panther]

who's

[worn ember]

SirYwell

[waxen panther]

they're an intellectual sites dev

[worn ember]

yeah thats not it

idc about that

guess i've seen him around other discords or something

[warm anchor]

krusic another blog post when? we need proper information

[ashen cliff]

Gib hardware.

[warm anchor]

Not just. I feel my server is faster and number is lower

" guys my server starts up 1 second faster on zgc bro!"

[ashen cliff]

Gib hardware, gib players or make a plugin that simulates all that.

[warm anchor]

true

the only limitor on the godly krusic is the hardware

[ashen cliff]

But we can't have synthetic tests, because then we can't shitpost about non existent performance gains.

[next frost]

I was around before, so most likely from here

[golden gust]

ZGC full STWs are generally rare as STW is only really used for marking

[worn ember]

werent you green at some point?

[golden gust]

issue with ZGC is that when it can't keep up, the memory barriers it imposes will generally cause thread stalls

[worn ember]

ur brain is a thread stall

[golden gust]

tru

[worn ember]

man i havent touched minecraft in like a month and i feel my iq increasing

[golden gust]

I bet it's double

now ur at 4

[worn ember]

https://tenor.com/bjwop.gif

@ashen cliff randomly recommended

its FREE btw

[marble lark]

Isn't ZGC still sort of experimental though

least that's what I remember

[warm anchor]

ded with his targeted audiance

[warm anchor]

yes and I doubt majority of them linking random github page and claim it to be faster actually know what they are talking about.

[marble lark]

yeah

[warm anchor]

every time I ask them for proof,

it's either "my firend told me about this" or "my server starts faster"

[golden gust]

I know many of the early preachers of ZGC stopped using ZGC

Issue is that ZGC is especially harder to monitor if you've got no idea what you're doing

[warm anchor]

yeahhh

[marble lark]

it's a promising GC from what I remember but for now there isn't a benefit to using it, Minecraft ran worse when I used ZGC

[golden gust]

Am far from a pro with GC stuff but god are the people preaching it acting as if it's magical

ZGC is designed for applications which are threaded and need large heaps

MC is basically none of those

[marble lark]

yeah you need to know what you're doing with it

wait Minecraft doesn't use large heap sizes?

[golden gust]

No

[marble lark]

didn't know that lol

[golden gust]

large is generally in the few hundred GB range

[marble lark]

oh my god lmao

you learn something new every day

[golden gust]

Like, it works for much smaller heaps, ofc, but,most of the areas where ZGC is attractive is where you have large heaps for highly threaded applications where pause time is critical

[marble lark]

i didn't expect large to be that large lmaooo

[golden gust]

ironically, most people having success that I've seen from ZGC need smaller heaps, but, the way is kinda obvious if you understand the general wider picture of how stuff works

[marble lark]

yeah

[marble lark]

from what I remember doesn't threading no longer benefit games anyway once past a certain point (IIRC 4-6 threads)

[golden gust]

threading is complex

[static badge]

threading is easy

you just add threads

and it works

[golden gust]

Like, 99% of the times with games you often have a collection of data which is shared

[static badge]

for me locally

[golden gust]

e.g. world state

[static badge]

can't those collections just be made thread safe

[marble lark]

that's something no one complaining about Minecraft's performance understands LOL

[golden gust]

if you wanted threading to actually work, you need more localised data so that you're not fighting against issues like lock contention

[marble lark]

Yeah be like me back in 2018 and spam CopyOnWriteArrayList everywhere C:

[static badge]

locks only slow things down

[worn ember]

just make it faster bro

i think its funny how this conversation comes up like every few days "why minecraft not multithread?? its ez"

[static badge]

multithreading is easy

[marble lark]

everyone online is straight up "Mojang is trash cuz Minecraft has poor performance since it's only singlethreaded!1!1!1!

[static badge]

the entirety of minecraft has been paid off by INTEL

[warm anchor]

[static badge]

so that they can still reign supreme

[worn ember]

seems plausible at this point

[marble lark]

that's basically every discussion of Minecraft's performance nowadays

[warm anchor]

leaf adding async chunk ticking when??

[static badge]

w

e

e

b

[warm anchor]

[marble lark]

don't you hate Tacos

[worn ember]

They should just hire leaf to uproot the entire engine and re-implement it

[plucky sparrow]

new Thread(() -> {doSomething();}).start();

[marble lark]

which engine

[warm anchor]

dont worry it will be done in 2040 when leaf eventually rewrite everything

[marble lark]

rendering or world ticking?

[worn ember]

ALL OF THE ENGINE

[marble lark]

I feel you lmao

I kinda want Mojang to move from OpenGL to Vulkan but that's probably going to take 3 years to reimplement

[plucky sparrow]

I saw a GitHub project for that

Not official though

[marble lark]

I don't really think I understand what that means

[worn ember]

If it exists theres a minecraft repo for it

[marble lark]

my knowledge of threading is pretty basic

[worn ember]

i learned a great deal by making the best rtp plugin in existance

when in doubt use atomic references

[static badge]

please don't take advice from DED

[golden gust]

things like locks/"syncronised" to protect data access

[plucky sparrow]

Oh lord Atomic references

[marble lark]

when in doubt use Project Panama's build of the JVM

[plucky sparrow]

Atomic integers 😔

[worn ember]

yeah plz dont :p

[static badge]

syncronised

[marble lark]

gotta love calling methods from C directly

[golden gust]

there comes a point where the locking impedes performance as much as, if not more than, the savings from making stuff not stuck on a single thread

[static badge]

teach me cat

but make it quick

i need threading today

[quasi valley]

just use concete

it has everything

[static badge]

it used to

[marble lark]

also offtopic but y'all know what the new paperweight-userdev package does

just a quick question lol cause I'm curious

[golden gust]

it's for using server internals in a plugin and mapping the final jar out to spigots crap

[plucky sparrow]

Curiosity killed the cat

[static badge]

wish it did

[golden gust]

actually, that was the chinese

[plucky sparrow]

o dam

[golden gust]

But, hey, tastes good

[marble lark]

ah

I was confused lol I thought it was going to replace paperweight-patcher for Forks

[static badge]

forks are bad

[plucky sparrow]

Cat you need to be a little more curious

[marble lark]

I would've died inside since I'm trying to do a PR

[golden gust]

I mean, if you want, we can kiss?

[marble lark]

Is the Owner of a well known Paper Fork

[golden gust]

Leaf is pretty bad

[plucky sparrow]

Leaf slander 24/7

[static badge]

if only z was here

[worn ember]

tuinity is still the only fork where my rtp works properly with the new terrain gen datapack

[marble lark]

mapping the final jar out to spigots crap
ain't that already implemented though

[static badge]

he'd tell you he took a law class and it's "libel"

[marble lark]

Unless that's not why the patchReobfMappings task exists inside paperweight-core

[worn ember]

i wonder if it'd be possible to make a qr code that lets you join a mc server

[plucky sparrow]

um

why would someone do that

[marble lark]

given that someone made a primitive Minecraft clone in Ren'Py a project for something as relatively less annoying as a QR code probably already exists

[worn ember]

issue is that its kinda useless for java cuz you run it on desktop/laptops anyway

[plucky sparrow]

Yeah

[worn ember]

might be cool for PE tho

[plucky sparrow]

I haven’t seen many people carry their desktops around just to scan QR codes

[worn ember]

[marble lark]

what are those lol

[upbeat falcon]

When to use AtomicReference in Java? - Stack Overflow

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/3964211/when-to-use-atomicreference-in-java

Jul 15, 2014 ... An atomic reference is ideal to use when you need to share and change the state of an immutable object between multiple threads. That is a super ...

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[marble lark]

i forgot there was a google command rip

[upbeat falcon]

Are Mutable Atomic References a Bad Idea? - Stack Overflow

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/39401914/are-mutable-atomic-references-a-bad-idea

Sep 9, 2016 ... It depends on what you mean by "safe", and what the rest of your code is doing. There's nothing inherently unsafe about your snippet of code in ...

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[worn ember]

yeah dont use it tho, its bad, people will tell you to not use a feature

[plucky sparrow]

It’s bad?

[worn ember]

@wispy blade thinks it is

[marble lark]

A few minutes ago you were like

xd

[plucky sparrow]

They’re just annoying

[marble lark]

oh

rip

I haven't bothered learning much about threading

[worn ember]

less annoying than having to figure out why a value isnt what you expected it to be

[plucky sparrow]

I hate that you need to: atomicReference.get();

Every single time

[marble lark]

least Threads in Java are less of a headache than PHP I say that at least

[worn ember]

they're still very much annoying in java imo

[marble lark]

well, when you don't care about performance and thread locks I guess

[plucky sparrow]

I will only use threads if it’s really needed

[worn ember]

i just let the futures deal with the thread stuff lul

[plucky sparrow]

Exactly

[marble lark]

They're still annoying, but from the brief time I was contributing to Pocketmine I'd much rather take Java Threads over PHP ones if I really had to use threads xd

[worn ember]

its even easier in C#, just mark every method async and ez pz

[marble lark]

Spam ForkJoinPool like I used to

[marble lark]

you can fucking do that in C#??

how did I never know that?????

[worn ember]

everything in our blazor app is pretty much marked async lul

you still gotta process it at some point tho

[marble lark]

so something like public override async void GetWorldData() (Assuming Minecraft was written in C# for some weird reason)

[marble lark]

lmaoo

[worn ember]

i'm not even joking

[marble lark]

yeah in hindsight support for threads in the form of the actual syntax of the language is more convenient than classes or methods you call from the standard library

still I'm sort of confused why the entire codebase is just async methods

surely not everything has to be done in parallel?

[worn ember]

cuz you dont want your pages to stay stuck on the spinny

you want it to load instantly and then load your data when it becomes available

[marble lark]

oh wait this is a web application of some sort

i forgot

lul

[worn ember]

yeah

blazor is a client web app of some sorts

just let the users their computer do the heavy lifting instead of the server

[marble lark]

imagine not doing everything in WebAssembly C:

[worn ember]

it compiles to WASM

[marble lark]

demet

[wispy blade]

wtf

[marble lark]

in hindsight I have no idea why I was surprised

[wispy blade]

i don't even know what it is

[worn ember]

i like it a lot more than MVVM

[marble lark]

why was I expecting the entire Common Language Runtime to also be installed on the client's end

dumbass me lmao

[upbeat falcon]

Model–view–viewmodel - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model–view–viewmodel

MVVM is a variation of Martin Fowler's Presentation Model design pattern. ... It was invented by Microsoft architects Ken Cooper and Ted Peters specifically to ...

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[worn ember]

it takes some to get used to tbh xD

[marble lark]

lmaooo

[worn ember]

like you cant have secrets anywhere cuz the client will have access to those

as opposed to other systems where the server deals with everything

[marble lark]

ah

lol I had to do a web project earlier this year

with bootstrap

and I gave up in the end

[worn ember]

lol we use bootstrap and admin lte and i hate it every time

[marble lark]

SAME

[plucky sparrow]

I thought bootstrap was supposed to make things easier

[marble lark]

the hell does bootstrap even do anyway

I added it into my project and did nothing with it

[worn ember]

it does a bunch of boilerplating, but making stuff look good is quite challenging tbh xD

add standard styling

[marble lark]

the worst part was the server though

especially MySQL

[plucky sparrow]

Sql sucks

[marble lark]

^

[plucky sparrow]

It’s boring

[marble lark]

Most of the time I use Minecraft's NBT Format instead of SQL for saves in my applications lmao

[worn ember]

we have an entire channel in our discord dedicated to SQL scripts cuz we need to change them so often

[marble lark]

I would be deceased if I was there

[marble lark]

but yeah it was an awful hack together of PHP, Python and SQL

and most of the time it didn't work

[worn ember]

[marble lark]

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[worn ember]

i think that one is like 300 lines

[marble lark]

ngl it still looks neater than what my group had for the final submission

[golden gust]

My group had somebody who said he was shit hot at android stuff which sucked at java

a web guy who hardly understood CSS or HTML, and defo didn't understand PHP

one guy who was basically aloof

[worn ember]

but android is kotling

[marble lark]

Oh I have an Android Project right now

[golden gust]

one guy who's development skills in generally where pretty trash

[marble lark]

and it's overdue by like a few hours LOL

[worn ember]

lol our android project in a nutshell

[marble lark]

I submitted an overambitious proposal and then had trouble doing basically everything I promised

[worn ember]

man plz just nuke the clusterfuck that is android

what the fuck are those libs

[plucky sparrow]

Android is stuck on Java 8

Depressing

I was gonna code some apps for android until I saw that

[marble lark]

and then I got admitted to a hospital for a week or 2

[worn ember]

android is stuck down the shitter

[marble lark]

now I'm fucked

[plucky sparrow]

Ruined my mood

[marble lark]

RIGHT

[worn ember]

i remember you had to build twice every time you touched databinding cuz it would generate invalid classes

[marble lark]

Why is the Application structure so weird on Android too like jesus

[worn ember]

yeah...

its MVC i think

[marble lark]

MVC?

[upbeat falcon]

ASP.NET MVC Pattern | .NET

https://dotnet.microsoft.com/apps/aspnet/mvc

Model View Controller (MVC) ... MVC is a design pattern used to decouple user-interface (view), data (model), and application logic (controller). This pattern ...

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[worn ember]

oh ffs

[marble lark]

oh wait I can just /google

LOL

[worn ember]

https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model-view-controller-model

ofc its dutch smh

[upbeat falcon]

MVC (Model View Controller) Architecture Pattern in Android with ...

https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/mvc-model-view-controller-architecture-pattern-in-android-with-example/

Oct 27, 2020 ... MVC (Model View Controller) Architecture Pattern in Android with Example · Model: This component stores the application data. · View: It is the UI ...

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[idle plover]

Yo

[marble lark]

yo

[full rune]

yo

[marble lark]

wassup my g

[potent fossil]

sends nl.wikipedia.org

of course it's dutch

DED moment

[worn ember]

i sent it already before i realized

[potent fossil]

[upbeat falcon]

Model–view–controller - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model–view–controller

Model–view–controller (usually known as MVC) is a software design pattern commonly used for developing user interfaces that divide the related program logic ...

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[golden gust]

as I said, the IQ double was to 4

[potent fossil]

should be 1/2 doubling to 1/4

wait, no, square it instead

too early for this shit rn

[marble lark]

the page says it's supposed to be used for web development lmao

[worn ember]

excuse me i finished all my math finals, so no more maths plz

all math banned

[worn ember]

we use it in android too, idk if thats the standard, but i think it more or less is

[potent fossil]

im studying differential equations now and my prof completely didnt cover checking for number/existence of solutions or slope fields or solution curves, and yet, it's in the hw

i went to office hours to ask and he told me it's not for students at my level "gloss over theorems" when I read the fucking theorem

but it makes no sense

[worn ember]

just assume stuff, math teachers seem to love that

[marble lark]

tbh I would really prefer the usual JVM way of the main method sigh

[marble lark]

oh god calculus

I used to be good at it

[potent fossil]

Like tf I'm supposed to do with this shit https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/3by0MB5tSy1hFXWI39mctqLK08N9XteiDBcdGVR7mr4/https/i.imgur.com/8mo7Wv2.png

[worn ember]

math teachers be like: just trust me bro

[marble lark]

and then I lost my ability

[foggy veldt]

there exists a solution s.t. I will get credit for this problem

[potent fossil]

they give me dy/dx = sqrt(y), y(a)=b

and they say find where it has no solution, 1 solution, or infinite solutions

like bitch where you give me a and b

[foggy veldt]

Oh I remember those problems

I don’t remember how I solved them

[potent fossil]

i have a general solution for the diff eq already

but i have to look at it and find how many solutions it has??? like tf

that 2nd part is what's annoying me

solving the diffeq is ok

🤷‍♂️ gonna watch prof leonard tho

thanks for coming to my rant

[foggy veldt]

The chemistry tutor on yt got me through chem 1, calc 1, calc 2, and he was getting me through Lin alg before I gave up

[potent fossil]

calc 1-3 weren't all that bad for me (except leaf had to teach me limits in calc 1 )

diff eqs themselves also aren't bad, this prof is just annoying

[wispy blade]

shogi is so hard aaa

[potent fossil]

What's that

[ashen cliff]

A board game.

[potent fossil]

Waste of time.

[ashen cliff]

Woah.

As if chatting here isn't a waste of time.

[wispy blade]

fact.

[worn ember]

math is a waste of time

[potent fossil]

Yeah have y'all noticed I've barely been here for the past week

About to head out and back to school in a moment, just finishing waking up

[wispy blade]

so you force a computer to do it for you ded

aka programming

[worn ember]

i'd say i hadn't noticed, but then again, i've mostly been studying too

[potent fossil]

gimple forgotten so easily

[worn ember]

there there

[potent fossil]

at least I know Larry loves me, his letter is still on my wall

[hidden lance]

.xray

[limber knot]

https://gist.github.com/stonar96/ba18568bd91e5afd590e8038d14e245e

[potent fossil]

Still yet to get a frame

But Larry

[wispy blade]

speaking of larry, haven't seen him around lately

[potent fossil]

he's off being a cutie somewhere

did i tell yall im going to the star trek 35th anniversary showing of star trek 4 remastered

cat are you jealous

[wispy blade]

lol gimple nerd

[potent fossil]

fuk u

[wispy blade]

sorry, i'm a minor

[limber knot]

electronicboy, i can ping you in IRC right, k thx go check discord

[worn ember]

aboose

[potent fossil]

Dark, can you insult Naomi in dutch plz

something that works on minors

it'll be from me not you

but you type it

[wispy blade]

as if ded can insult me

[worn ember]

i dont have any dutch SFW insults

[potent fossil]

[wispy blade]

just an indication of how dutch works xd

[twin lagoon]

@potent fossil

[potent fossil]

Michale!

[twin lagoon]

@waxen panther

[worn ember]

i'm sure mikel can come up with a great very dutch insult

[twin lagoon]

i don't have any dutch SFW insults

[worn ember]

[wispy blade]

@worn ember jouw moeder is zo rond dat je haar kan gebruiken als reuzenbowlingbal

[twin lagoon]

krusic! BRO!

[worn ember]

weak

[wispy blade]

doesn't have to be strong, just has to be funny

[waxen panther]

@twin lagoon xoxoxoxoxxo

[twin lagoon]

[waxen panther]

best michael

[mental meadow]

the bestest

[twin lagoon]

@untold meadow BEST kezz

@mental meadow BEST auwowowaowa

[wispy blade]

📠

[potent fossil]

UWUWA!

[mental meadow]

uwu

simple!!!

[potent fossil]

aurora best ever

[untold copper]

day #74 of trying to get abs: no exercise cos we literally have 19 relatives over-

[golden gust]

Not really, my interest in modern ST is like, er...

[void void]

@quasi valley

[ashen cliff]

India moment.

[quasi valley]

I'll let you continue my legacy

[untold copper]

Yes.

[mental meadow]

wait

[quasi valley]

I hope all of them are vaccinated

[potent fossil]

That's also a Philippines moment

[mental meadow]

kneny

[twin lagoon]

@quasi valley

[untold copper]

they're not :D

[twin lagoon]

kenny is based

@static badge fucking furry

[twin lagoon]

weebs

[mental meadow]

yes

[untold copper]

filthy weebs*

[mental meadow]

speak for yourself

[void void]

day #🇽🇩 part 20 of trying to get abs: I've paid my dues
Time after time
I've done my sentence
But committed no crime
And bad mistakes
I've made a few
I've had my share of sand
Kicked in my face
But I've come through
And we mean to go on and on and on and on
We are the champions, my friends
And we'll keep on fighting till the end
We are the champions

[quasi valley]

thank you

[void void]

gonna need to stock up on better songs

[ashen cliff]

Make a Balkan version.

[quasi valley]

you'll have to increase the part number tho

[void void]

whoops

[mental meadow]

I need more money to simp,,,,,rip

[spark tartan]

little help here, paper 195

[untold copper]

thats normal

[spark tartan]

whew

thank goodness, cheers

[untold copper]

lol

[warm anchor]

what's wrong? aside from you are inside the dumpster

I mean composter

[spark tartan]

not me, hapless player on the smp

business as usual, just wanted to share ^_^

[left swift]

Very cool

Thanks for sharing

[spark tartan]

Nobody mentions how much silly nonsense you get to witness as a host 🤠

[left swift]

Hey guys there something wrong with paper 194

[spark tartan]

try letting your beverage acclimate to ambient temps before applying, sweat is bad for tps

[warm anchor]

custom resource pack?? that's an unique looking composter

[untold meadow]

NO U

[twin lagoon]

[left swift]

Yea I got it from a dream video

[spark tartan]

almost

there

[golden gust]

hmmm nom nom

[quasi valley]

I hope cat doesn't bring dead rats to his roommates

[warm anchor]

I like how it uses chopsticks

coz you know every moving thing is a chinese dish

[ashen cliff]

Could also just stab it, like ražnič.

[quasi valley]

Alright I'll have to stop you right there krusic

you're about to commit a warcrime

[warm anchor]

lol

[ashen cliff]

Sorry, my Balkan heritage was speaking.

[cosmic raft]

https://tenor.com/view/boy-anime-blush-flustered-cute-gif-17517111

[wispy blade]

🎚️

[heady spear]

I'm skinny, I'm winning and all you bitches are ugly.

[void void]

I'm using it because I don't have anything better lol

[heady spear]

it is boring

it doesn't have a summer hat

0/10

[ashen cliff]

Still above your league.

[heady spear]

whotf r u

?? random

[wispy blade]

at least i can say that and people will just go haha naomi said smth dum again

[heady spear]

ur all weird ppl go touch grass

[twin lagoon]

city when does mcc island release

😒

[heady spear]

never @twin lagoon

[wispy blade]

touched grass today actually

[heady spear]

I forgot to work today because I hate bomb ass mantou and it gave me inflammation and I had to sleep for 2h

[wispy blade]

grinding shogi puzzles now :))

[left swift]

I'm allergic to grass

[heady spear]

First of all you absolute degenerate, I am allergic to grass.

[wispy blade]

noob

[heady spear]

Second of all, I live in Sweden and this entire country is a fucking forest

you touch grass whether you want it or not

im gonna use my big foot to kick your ass if you don't leave me alone wtf

[void void]

Therre

[warm anchor]

City epic?

[void void]

Avatar has been improved

[twin lagoon]

@warm anchor

[heady spear]

that is so hot

I love that for you

[wispy blade]

@warm anchor hi eieryernet

[warm anchor]

Hi Minos

[heady spear]

sry im busy winning at life

I work so hard

[wispy blade]

very hard

idle cash ofc

[heady spear]

ew why would i touch a woman ? they have weird germs n shit

and during the pandemic??

very irresponsible

I am old and wise

[next frost]

sure

[wispy blade]

older and wiser than @void void for sure

[heady spear]

@next frost did u see where they pointed out how hard i work on p2?

[next frost]

yeah you really do

[wispy blade]

sorry i don't talk to nonames who just come in here and troll

[heady spear]

fuck trolls

let's ban all of them

[wispy blade]

go ahead city

get your favourite aurora to do it

[heady spear]

@mental meadow truly is my favourite <33

[next frost]

hellow awrora

[mental meadow]

hewo

[heady spear]

aurora I can't eat sugar at all anymore & my life is miserable

I've never trolled wtf

[void void]

City would never troll

[warm anchor]

City is always serious wdym

[heady spear]

are you fat shaming me now?

[next frost]

hello EterNity!

[warm anchor]

Hello @next frost

[mental meadow]

😦

my life is also miserable but for no real reason lol

[heady spear]

it's actually becoming annoying lmao whenever I eat I get super tired and need to take a nap 🥴

[next frost]

just sleep the whole day

[mental meadow]

lol I have that too lately tho, my doctor thought my blood pressure might be too low due to meds but thats not it

[next frost]

that's what I'm doing currently

[heady spear]

however they're actually investigating it now after like 6 years of doctors ignoring me

[mental meadow]

who is that

[heady spear]

like, getting inflammations and fever from everything isn't great

for whatever reason it got triggered real bad this week so I've been unable to work half of the time lmao it's great fun

[heady spear]

😦

[mental meadow]

who is that dude do you know them city or are they just trolling

[warm anchor]

They just trolling

[heady spear]

ye they keep trolling in here

[mental meadow]

my tolerance for bs is pretty low when I'm depressed, just wanted to know before I accidentally ban anyone oof

[left swift]

[wispy blade]

advice? when the fuck did you give advice?

[mental meadow]

well

[heady spear]

I found this awful & extremely overpriced "authentic" Chinese restaurant in my town. Second item on the menu was a Japanese dish 🙂

[mental meadow]

jokes from random people usually don't work that well

alright

[next frost]

but once I hop on a alt

[warm anchor]

The real authentic Chinese food can only be served by a small shop in the corner with no signs and an extremely old Chinese couple serving you food and speak loudly

[void void]

And there's some kid in the corner doing homework

[warm anchor]

Then you know it’s the good shit

[heady spear]

they had decent mantou but everything else was pretty mehhhh

[next frost]

w-wait, are you living near me?

[heady spear]

no fucking flavour either as per usual in this shitty country

[mental meadow]

no one lives near you

[warm anchor]

this is just how it is here in US

[vestal jasper]

Ew? City monster?

[mental meadow]

no one want's to live in that city

[heady spear]

aurora btw I told Mimmi that I am going to force her to go to Austria when we go to Germany this fall

[next frost]

the city I'm living in is great!

[heady spear]

I want to spend a ridiculous amount of money on stuffed animals

[mental meadow]

that is okay, I accept bribes in that form

[wispy blade]

need to expand my stuffed animal collection

[mental meadow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Bvej14BrFU

[void void]

✍️ noted

[heady spear]

can't wait to get my second vaccine dose .-. I have so many travel destinations planned

[next frost]

lol I didn't know that

[wispy blade]

@heady spear mind sharing some of your plans?

:o

[plucky sparrow]

no

u stalker

[wispy blade]

what

[heady spear]

lol nothing too exciting :p I'm taking my sister to Italy (or Spain, if Italy goes into lockdown) in September, I wanna go back to the UK this fall, my friend and I are visiting her friend in Germany & I've promised to visit my friend in Spain (though prolly in the spring)

[wispy blade]

i'm just interested, dap

[mental meadow]

and me!!!

[heady spear]

& if the world is less fucked up next year then I wanna spend some time in Taiwan :'')

oh yes, austria will be combined with the germany trip hopefully

[wispy blade]

PaperMC Con wen!!!

[tropic flame]

i got the Janssen vaccine, which is (supposedly) single dosage, so I'm free

i say supposedly though because apparently they want to introduce a second dose?

[warm anchor]

Booster shot

[heady spear]

who shot Booster???

[next frost]

thats illegal

[wispy blade]

mmmmm i love pawn pin into double gold tsume

[void void]

perfect time to get the papermc tramp stamp temporary tattoo merch finished

[heady spear]

I feel like drinking with Ywell would be fun

Yweeeellllll you should go to the UK with me and harass dords

[wispy blade]

what the fuck, my little sister's listening to All I Want For Christmas

BITCH IT'S AUGUST

[void void]

she's just very excited

[spark tartan]

let people enjoy a thing

jeez

[wispy blade]

no, overplayed overrated song

song has lost all its meaning to me

[heady spear]

ur overrated

[spark tartan]

I get complemented on my papermc tee all the time

[next frost]

lol that would be interesting, yes

[wispy blade]

i don't even have a rating so haha

[void void]

there's a papermc tee?

[heady spear]

I rate you 7/10 which is clearly too high

ur now overrated

[wispy blade]

then rate me correctly dum

[next frost]

I'm super busy with uni atm :/

[spark tartan]

you can pay people to put anything on cotton these days

[heady spear]

quit uni and work full time on Minecraft stuff, duh

[spark tartan]

hells yeah

mashing donate

[heady spear]

actually best decision I've ever made lmao

[next frost]

I like it overall but it's just a lot of time

[heady spear]

is it remote?

I couldn't stand remote uni

[next frost]

currently more or less

[wispy blade]

🤢

[next frost]

I only go there to eat

lol

[spark tartan]

eat... remotely?

[wispy blade]

i really hope school's IRL for me next school year

[spark tartan]

most impressive

[wispy blade]

and for all of next school year

[next frost]

bruh no, everything is basically remote besides exams (and eating)

[heady spear]

well if you come to your senses then you can come work with me, you'll be so happy and not miserable at all

[vestal jasper]

Haha

[next frost]

I'd really like to finish my bachelor's degree, not sure what I want to do after that

[ashen cliff]

Work.

[next frost]

that sounds awful

[spark tartan]

downloads ramen

seems ok

[wide chasm]

Could do a masters after

[spark tartan]

Got a Linkedin? I was halfway through my bs & got headhunted excessively via LI

[topaz mortar]

City trying to hook up. ❤️

[vernal moth]

LinkedIn and the German Version, xing, are good ways to get your self esteem up, lmao

[next frost]

yeah I'm thinking about that. That's basically where the interesting stuff is coming up

[left swift]

Quit uni then work at a car wash

[vernal moth]

Headhunters are horrible humans tho

[next frost]

I have a linkedin account but I don't really use it

[spark tartan]

Good way to get work, you mean :p

[mental meadow]

xing is so awful lol

[ancient bolt]

a good way to hate humanity is to look at linkedin too

[mental meadow]

I made an account last week and honestly who made that page

it sucks

[spark tartan]

nah, don't look, just post

[ancient bolt]

the sob stories are like facebook but somehow worse?

[vernal moth]

Some gal on LinkedIn stalked me on twitter and said she liked that I was politically involved and supported the plalistine people 😂

[left swift]

LinkedIn new tinder?

[vernal moth]

And then proceeded to offer me a job at some giant corp

[wispy blade]

LMAO

[next frost]

I'm really not interested in doing a boring programming job

[ancient bolt]

Mini now works for giant corp

[left swift]

I went to college for networking and virtualization and worked at the it desk and then proceeded to drop out and not want to touch that line of work with a 10ft pole

[vernal moth]

My company isn't giant, 600 in IT and like 3k overall I think

3 million customers

Wikipedia says 4

And 6k employees

Ok then

But the wikipedia is also outdated

[left swift]

If ur work is on wikipedia you cant say it isnt a giant company

Lol

[vernal moth]

The English one I mean

German one says 4.7k employees

[left swift]

Whose gonna make the papermc wikipedia

[wide chasm]

Not gonna contribute to Wikipedia again

[left swift]

Scarred for life

[mental meadow]

wikipedia is so toxic lol

[wide chasm]

I quit, I think like 2 years ago, and I'm still tired

[vernal moth]

Can't be worse than stackoverflow

[wide chasm]

It isn't

But still bad

[vernal moth]

Nothing is nicer than some Indian kid telling you you are stupid

[heady spear]

@vernal moth ur stupid

[vernal moth]

See, that I can accept

Cause it's coming from a Caucasian alpha male

[wide chasm]

The only thing I did on Wikipedia was ensuring stuff was cited - which is one of the most basic policies that site has - and the amount of effort that took was fucking ridiculous

[heady spear]

mini is racist & xenophobic

[mental meadow]

lol

city alpha male

[ashen cliff]

We had a teacher at our school remove stuff before we had tests from Wikipedia so we wouldn't cheat...
And she said it was justified.

[worn ember]

monke together strong

[wide chasm]

Literally every change I made someone came to my talk page to complain

[night ivy]

How do I disable players from using the ender chest?
help
chest-access deny cannot disable ender chest

[void void]

Well thats a way to get the school IP banned

[night ivy]

worl guard

[worn ember]

what the fuck xD

[golden gust]

o o f

[vernal moth]

In Germany we have bots that watch for edits from IPs out of our parliment

[golden gust]

She does know about the history view, right?

[vernal moth]

That's hella funny

[void void]

I think tom scott made something similar for the ui

[spark tartan]

.//effort

[void void]

Uk*

[ashen cliff]

She legit, made a copy paste to a txt document. So no idea if she knew about the history view.

[golden gust]

mfw

[ashen cliff]

She wasn't very bright.

[golden gust]

figures

[worn ember]

where'd you get that idea?

[golden gust]

She single?

Maybe we can set her up with DED

[worn ember]

i think our babies would rip holes in the fabric of time and space

[ashen cliff]

No idea about now, but back then, she had a single child, no husband and was having affairs with the IT teacher.

[golden gust]

the level of dense would just destroy everything as we know it

[spark tartan]

TMI

[golden gust]

In primary school, we had this teacher called mrs woodhouse

[worn ember]

maybe the IT teacher was an elite hacker that could bypass wikipedia verification

[golden gust]

complete and total bitch, nobody really liked her

[worn ember]

it was all a scheme

[golden gust]

a few years ago, I found out that she left the school

[ashen cliff]

No. He didn't even have a TV with HDMI bro! Never wanted to help me, so I just became the main IT guy at school.

[golden gust]

after she was found out to be having an affair with the photo copier repair guy in the staff room

[marble lark]

classic

[worn ember]

did the copies get leaked?

[heady spear]

We had a German/French/Mandarin/IT/Tech teacher named Puff that got bullied by everyone in middle school and she would cry

and then our Greek English teacher would come in and yell at us

[golden gust]

LOL

[worn ember]

swedes, horrible people smh

[golden gust]

In secondary school we had a teacher like that

She was basically like a long term sub, nobody really wanted to work for our school and so we basically got the deprived souls

[ashen cliff]

Looking back, we were bad children.

[spark tartan]

Is there some other kind? 🙂

[wide chasm]

You learnt from the teachers

[golden gust]

She literally taught some thing in class, and then was like, get the book, use the numbers from this question but ignore the actual question as we're not doing that

[ashen cliff]

Not in our generation.

[golden gust]

and then towards the end be like, "compare the answers you got to the answers in the answer book", and the whole class was just like, wat o.O

Think everybody gave up with her

[worn ember]

One of our teachers was on medical leave and they couldnt find a replacement so we didnt get math for half a year lul

[night ivy]

Every time I come in I see you online. Did you get some sleep?

[golden gust]

There a nice ending, however; Apparently my brothers year basically sent her to a psych ward

[worn ember]

cat lives on paper chat

[wide chasm]

The paper chat is his litter box

[ashen cliff]

Or last year of math was epic. Main teacher pregnant... second teacher pregnant... third teacher pregnant... So we just didn't have math.

[heady spear]

cat is only here so he can see me type

he loves me

[golden gust]

t'is true

Shamefully, am not enough of a chav for him

[worn ember]

covid babies?

[void void]

My old english teacher was on pregnancy leave a lot

[ashen cliff]

I'm not that young.

[void void]

I think we had her for two months before she left again

[golden gust]

one of the religions which forbid condoms?

[worn ember]

[golden gust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUspLVStPbk

[worn ember]

plastic bad

[void void]

Wasn’t religious I think

[ashen cliff]

We use cloth.

[worn ember]

[heady spear]

nah, use goat intestines

[worn ember]

pig lungs

[void void]

[heady spear]

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3649591/#:~:text=The condoms used in Ancient,hard evidence for this exists.

[ashen cliff]

Or just a shopping bag.

[worn ember]

PMC

[heady spear]

The condoms used in Ancient Rome were made of linen and animal (sheep and goat) intestine or bladder. It is possible that they used muscle tissue from dead combatants but no hard evidence for this exists.

[worn ember]

You use what you can i suppose

we got it too good

[golden gust]

In 1872 the Welsh invented the condom, using a sheep's lower intestine.
In 1873, the British refined the idea by taking the intestine out of the sheep first.

[heady spear]

I run around mcdonalds collecting old broken balloons and use them as condoms

[void void]

does this means that i'm cool

[worn ember]

they already got blown before

[void void]

oh that was on april 14

[heady spear]

if you spend any time on the papermc forums then you're categorically uncool

[worn ember]

huh paper has forums?

[wide chasm]

Yes

[heady spear]

since when

[void void]

Ages

[heady spear]

paperspigot forums are no good

avoid !

[worn ember]

i always wanna type .joke for the over the head joke but uh

[void void]

hagar wen?!

[worn ember]

https://giphy.com/gifs/jXD7kFLwudbBC

[mental meadow]

honestly I didn't realize we had a forum for like 3 months after I became mod

[left swift]

Make jokes great again

[worn ember]

nothing to moderate there anyway

[wide chasm]

You mean you didn't review posts on the forums for three months? Inexcusable! /s

[void void]

yatopia fans raid

[worn ember]

ok raid over

[heady spear]

oh noooo bardy closed his awesome-minecraft PR

[wispy blade]

what raid

[left swift]

You didnt advert raid bro

I'm calling an admin

[waxen panther]

@heady spear 😡

[heady spear]

wtf do you want?

[waxen panther]

food ?

[heady spear]

same

I have some tofu left from the food I ordered tho, hm

I barely ever cook anymore D:

[left swift]

Meat

[heady spear]

I only want cat meat

[worn ember]

no

[left swift]

[heady spear]

yummy

[left swift]

Papermc sponsored ESEA csgo team?

[void void]

i respect your opinion.

[void void]

[lavish compass]

to add it to my collection of Prometheus metrics

[spark tartan]

hey, is anyone else using the rollover shulker GUI data/resource pack?

it's quirky but I hate the vanilla shulker rollover

using @tryashtar's implementation but would like to suss the field before pushing it on my villagers

this one here right here mmhm https://tryashtar.github.io/shulker-preview/

I know this belongs in #delicious-tacos but that sub it too fast

[waxen panther]

yes #delicious-tacos

[wispy blade]

yes #delicious-tacos

[next frost]

It does really have any useful value

[lavish compass]

?

[next frost]

It’s basically a very constant value

[warm anchor]

Falling into the rabbit hole of monitor every values is kinda bad

Unless you just wanna show something cool to your friends

[lavish compass]

well true, though it could be useful sometimes when debugging lag spikes

i actually found it useful a few days ago

[next frost]

Lag spiked from ZGC stw pauses?

[lavish compass]

no i meant from other gc

but it would be useful to also see if zgc is behaving properly

[next frost]

There are way more relevant values like allocation Stall when using ZGC

[marble lark]

?

[lavish compass]

Stop the world

[spark tartan]

k now wat

[limpid comet]

apparently intellij is running out of memory on 5gb

maybe 10gb is enough?

[worn ember]

are you decompiling the material class

words are hard

[cunning raft]

ChatColors2

[limpid comet]

i have three decently large projects open so thats probably it

[worn ember]

yeah that'll do it

i think its related to indexing and caching and the like

[ancient bolt]

chatcolors2 is my greatest project

but that required a 100GB heap to compile

[worn ember]

lmao i remember it breaking github preview

had to view the raw file

[void void]

?

what is chatcolors2

[limpid comet]

chatcolors2 is a curse

never view chatcolors2

[void void]

what the fuck

[limpid comet]

run

its too late

[void void]

im downloading it as we speak

[worn ember]

you can just view the raw file

[ancient bolt]

https://github.com/DenWav/ChatColors2

[void void]

i get it

haha

[limpid comet]

i've done the python script to generate some code thing though

[magic river]

So it lets you use it like R42.G17.B240?

But it's 16 million lines long

[ancient bolt]

yeah, very intuitive API

[void void]

it supports all of the colors

[ancient bolt]

don't worry, there's a pre-compiled 439MB jar you can use

[void void]

there are probably libraries close to that size

[ancient bolt]

it doesn't support 10bit HDR unfortunately

yeah ofc

[magic river]

How does a 16 million line file turn in to 439MB?

[ancient bolt]

the original source file is 523MB

and in this case you don't lose a ton by compiling it lol

[full rune]

maybe chatcolors3

[void void]

each line is 26 characters roughly

[ancient bolt]

cause the java bytecode still contains all the names

[magic river]

I guess my guess was off, was going to say the source should only be like 340MB

[void void]

416000000 bytes

416mb

I wonder what would happen if you tried decompiling

[ancient bolt]

it also creates hundreds of thousands (millions?) of individual class files

[void void]

loading this file for 3 minutes now

rip github servers

[magic river]

RIP your browser

[void void]

it actually did an aw snap

[ancient bolt]

yeah servers can handle it no problem

its your browser that cant

[void void]

how long did the python script take to make it denwav?

and how long to compile into the jar

[ancient bolt]

less than a second? idk

[magic river]

Generating it is probably IO bound so how fast does an SSD do writes?

[ancient bolt]

maybe a few seconds

[void void]

dude

[golden gust]

browsers generally aren't designed to deal with such large content on a page

[void void]

yeah it ran out of mem

[ancient bolt]

it took several minutes and 100GB of heap to compile

like 30 minutes to compile I think

can't remember

[fossil patio]

My browser opens it ok, can I PR to paper?

hmm this is getting interesting

[ancient bolt]

its ded

[spark tartan]

ITT: we try abilities considered unnatural

[daring laurel]

are there any other popular proxies other than bungee/velocity

[twin lagoon]

lilypad

velocity is your best option though

[daring laurel]

im making a wiki vg article not picking one to use. ty tho

[twin lagoon]

there's also minegate

er, minekube gate, https://github.com/minekube/gate

[daring laurel]

how is it different from the others?

[twin lagoon]

no idea

never used it, won't be touching it either

bungee/waterfall, velocity & lilypad are the most used ones

[worn crest]

never heard of lily

[daring laurel]

same

[twin lagoon]

it's old and basically in maintenance mode

most servers who use it have just been using it for ages and never moved to velocity

like old 2015 large servers

[worn crest]

ah yes, I actually came 2018 to the server business 😄

[digital talon]

Copilot is impressive and scary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xw_qbJp52cY

[wispy blade]

old news

[plucky sparrow]

downloading windows 11 🤪

[cunning raft]

Seems pretty stable so far

[plucky sparrow]

I've picked beta instead of dev

since it's my main os

[cunning raft]

I'm not switching till Android support tho

Not enough interesting things till then

[plucky sparrow]

when is windows 11 gonna properly release though

[cunning raft]

September/November I thought

[plucky sparrow]

oh so just in time for macOS 11

[cunning raft]

Actually in that leaked Intel thing they refer to it as the October 2021 update

[plucky sparrow]

Installing 😳

Lets hope it doesn’t break my efi partition

[magic river]

sad times

[cunning raft]

What one u got?

Didn't Intel say they were gonna support older ones after pushback?

[magic river]

It says at the bottom, i5-7600K

It works now but the ISO will block you from installing and they say the OS will enforce it for release

So I'd expect you to either be blocked from installing an update soon or have your OS block you from logging in or maybe booting soon

Then again these requirements aren't enforced for VMs so it'll probably be easy to bypass, right now you can bypass the install block by just deleting a file

Dev and beta don't enforce it right now (although the ISO still does)

They want more testers

[strange raven]

Is w11 actually a good upgrade rn?

[cunning raft]

Not much besides visual tweaks atm

[plucky sparrow]

I’m trying it out on an i5 9600k

It’s still working on updates

It’s done 🤪

omg it’s amazing

[wispy blade]

i use arch btw @plucky sparrow

[plucky sparrow]

who asked

I’m not interested in you biombo

[wispy blade]

yeah yeah ofc not

[magic river]

How do you know someone uses Arch?

[wispy blade]

they show you their neofetch

[plucky sparrow]

omg

Wallpaper engine doesn’t work

How do I downgrade

[wispy blade]

or afetch, if they're being fancy

[plucky sparrow]

Nvm it works!

why is windows 11 so

smooth

it's perfection i love it

[magic river]

There are a bunch of things named afetch

Two of them are even minimal sysinfo tools

[ancient bolt]

ask them what they think of gentoo

[limber knot]

hi

does anyone here use arch

[wispy blade]

yes

me

[golden gust]

asking if somebody uses arch

Literally no need

[plucky sparrow]

i love windows 11

is there a new font too?!

[twin lagoon]

yes

[magic river]

Yep

[plucky sparrow]

omg

[twin lagoon]

a slightly modified version of segoe ui

[wispy blade]

119h wtf

[ancient bolt]

windows 11 is my favorite linux distro

[plucky sparrow]

mine too

i'm removing macOS from my pc now

[wispy blade]

windows 12 lite is my favorite linux distro

[limber knot]

i take it you have seen mjd

[wispy blade]

yes

[plucky sparrow]

michael mjd?

[limber knot]

my next phone will be a brexit phone

[wispy blade]

yoooooo

[vale sleet]

im in discord