plz
#general
potent fossil
ashen cliff
Sorry bro.
potent fossil
You suck.
plucky sparrow
Oracle bad
left swift
simple swallows
wispy blade
yeah swallows are pretty birds
potent fossil
Not sure what you're implying mana, but ye i do
i swallow coffee, other drinks, food, etc
good biological function, that
vestal jasper
yeah swallows are pretty birds
What is the air speed velocity of an unladen swallow?
unkempt drift
an african or european swallow?
left swift
its a response to when someone says u suck
you go "well u swallow"
ya know
like blowjobs
worn crest
wispy blade
@vestal jasper uwu
vestal jasper
Not my type sorry
wispy blade
crying
wispy blade
Bro! Don't do it!
vestal jasper
Joe who
twin lagoon
@vestal jasper uwu
vestal jasper
@twin lagoon uwu
twin lagoon
left swift
Thanks I needed an explanation
No problem. Next week we'll learn about changing the HVAC filters
vestal jasper
Sweet
stuck wind
potent fossil
Don't know, why did you?
mossy vessel
#gifs-and-memes
vernal moth
shit like that most likely is bullying
heady spear
Bullying is great. @mossy vessel you’re stinky and dum
wispy blade
@heady spear you are Swedish.
vestal jasper
Says the stinky one @heady spear
heady spear
You’re jealous of our free healthcare and education
wispy blade
why would I, as a Dutch person, be jealous 
void void
Hi I have a problem, I have a BungeeCord and I want to connect a Forge server to it and I don't know why it writes this when I have everything set up 😦
vestal jasper
It
void void
heady spear
My penis is at least 2 inches
vestal jasper
You just posted that why are you already bumping your question lol
void void
?
vernal moth
why would you post support questions in an offtopic chat
heady spear
I mean it kind of on topic in that case
If there’s no topic then nothing is not on topic
vernal moth
well, we had a topic, your penis
vestal jasper
Or everything is off topic.
heady spear
My penis can’t connect to forge servers either
wispy blade
haha, i have a bigger penis than city
nimble depot
**HAD a topic
vernal moth
haha, i have a bigger penis than city
ok I laughed to hard at that and now I don't know if I should feel sorry, lol
heady spear
Smaller penises are beneficial if you do drag
vestal jasper
You know a lot about that then?
heady spear
Drag?
vestal jasper
Yes
heady spear
I’ve seen a couple of seasons of drag race
twin lagoon
a
vestal jasper
No I'm talking about dog races
vernal moth
I had to find torrents for those for a friend of mine and thus watched a bit
twin lagoon
excuses
vernal moth
def not my kinda style of content, but I can see why so many people enjoy it
I don't have an issue with drag, I have an issue with bitch fights, lol
heady spear
I watch it for the petty drama
vernal moth
ye that, lol
vestal jasper
Sounds about right
vernal moth
I just wanna ram my head into a wall
heady spear
And some of the contestants are actually very talented
vernal moth
for sure
vestal jasper
Its not for me but I get it
mossy vessel
Pft, all you need is your ID
vernal moth
yeah its just a wrong message
you wouldn't wanna copy on hover
heh restarted and its fixed, installed an update
still dum
wispy blade
red one has been there for a couple years
vernal moth
🤷♂️
magic river
Oh hey the evangelion rebuilds are finally done
frank otter
Would the 3.0+1.something (latest one) spoil everything else cuz I haven't watched any of it
nimble depot
that's how far that goes
magic river
Uh, yeah, if you watch the last one first it'll spoil everything 😛
It's 3.0+1.0 (instead of just calling it 4) but then they did a director's cut kind of thing and called it 3.0+1.01
frank otter
confusing
magic river
If that's confusing the show is going to be really hard to follow
frank otter
so I've heard
magic river
I haven't watched any of the rebuild movies yet, been waiting for this last one to come out
I know the story is different from the show in some ways, apparently it even adds new characters?
minor badge
they show the "copied!" on hover
it seems to be some boolean they never set back to false 
warm anchor
Oh hey the evangelion rebuilds are finally done
Still waiting for UStheathre release
Fuck covid man
magic river
It's on amazon prime
Supposed to be a worldwide release so probably everywhere that has Prime?
twin lagoon
@warm anchor 
warm anchor
warm anchor
https://www.amazon.com/EVANGELION-1-01-THRICE-UPON-TIME/dp/B098WNZSQ3
Etf how I missed
Ok
I know what I am doing tonight
frank otter
I wish you a mentally taxing night
magic river
warm anchor
Oh I already watched the extended view @frank otter
That was aired in Japan’s so I probably spoiled most of the good part 
Cant resist
nimble depot
that seems like a good splash screen for ExtVMS
I always liked the splash screens of dodgy CCTV software packages so mine also has this feature
ivms4200 had a nice one but Hik got rid of it. Also older versions of smartpss were pretty nice
worthy geode
this looks very 2005
thorny totem
nimble depot
this looks very 2005
Yeah. A lot of surveillance software was made during that time and the UI never got updated
wispy blade
it looks nice though
nimble depot
This CCTV server was made in 2018 and still has one of those startup screens
worn ember
fancy lights
nimble depot
This UI is just great
worn ember
man studying is so draining 
im tired all the time ever after sleeping 8 hours
nimble depot
I can sometimes go two full days without sleep
worn ember
same, not if i've been cramming math in my head for 8 hours tho
im more exhausted than hauling boxes all day lol
nimble depot
I would study for stuff weeks in advance and the day before the exam I just treat myself to doing absolutely nothing
worn ember
if i do that, by the time i'm at the exam i wouldve already forgotten what i was studying lol
ig if i did it more it would stick more
but i honestly cant be assed xD
its fire and forget
nimble depot
I have to retake a exam for my cisco certifications every few years. It's a rare event so I take it seriously
Oh btw this server puts it's logo instead of the boring NO VIDEO. I like it.
ashen cliff
CCNP Enterprise when? 
nimble depot
I still technically hold CCIE R/S
Also the curriculum for CCIE security is BAD. A lot of harsh language has been used when discussing that
ashen cliff
So the usual.
nimble depot
So the usual.
The IT industry hates Cisco and Cisco hates them
ashen cliff
I know.
It's kind of my industry.
I live to annoy our "trained" Cisco colleagues with my DIY Cisco knowledge.
ashen cliff
ashen cliff
nimble depot
Me: 2 CCIE certs: look, just update the configuration and make sure the two branches can connect to the head office
New employee with CCT: replaces routers with dlink and makes it work
Me: ...
ashen cliff
Me: Let's just use the arcane knowledge from other switches that shouldn't work on there and the hidden debug modes... and it crashed.
nimble depot
We still widely use Cisco 2600 series kit as our resident hardware
unkempt drift
so what's the current situation with the free servers then? just gotta re-up them every month now?
potent fossil
The terms now say that as soon as your free trial ends, they disable your server. 30 days later they delete it. Only option is to upgrade your account.
Etern seems to have different information.
Don't know where they got that.
vernal moth
From oracle PR, duh
potent fossil
So I just upgraded, and I'm being charged for block storage but it still states I should be getting 200gb free. So I checked limits and governance, and it says free is 200gb, used is 0gb. Although I'm using 200gb. So I opened a ticket saying that should be free.
I 100% expect they'll quietly change terms again and remove that. And then gaslight me about it having never happened
formal turret
hell yea gaslighting!
potent fossil
Yea, I did this time. Didn't the first time.
But honestly if they come back with that, the server being free just isn't worth it anymore to deal with this borderline malicious company lol
I'd rather pay hetzner for a server
heady spear
there's this really nice dior sweatshirt that I wanna buy butttt it's €950 and I feel like it would potentially be a dumb purchase
wispy blade
@heady spear https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGgGD3H4MnU you need some jammers
heady spear
why do I shop whenever I'm bored smh
heady spear
welllllllllll it depends on what you compare it to
heady spear
ugh I think ima wait until I'm in italy lmao
gonna visit the fendi flagship store 🤩
but ye I need a fucking hobby because this isn't great, I've nowhere to put half of my shit lmao 🥴
shell vine
u can easily find a very nice sweatshirt for <100
wispy blade
city you should work on cloud!!!!
heady spear
there's like nothing to do on cloud smh
I only really do whatever I need for Noxcrew and then 
wispy blade
then start your own project
heady spear
I've too many projects already
wispy blade
finish them then
heady spear
how do you even finish a project lol
wispy blade
you sit down
and implement a feature
then test, commit and push, go to bed, and do the same thing the day after
100% of plugins i made for monkegame have been made this way
heady spear
these days I only touch things related to Minecraft if I get paid
wispy blade
true, wish i got paid for my work as well
monkeModMail still not at 10 downloads PepeHands
literally spent days making it 😔
shell vine
whos paying you for this chat
heady spear
suck on that 🦘
lean kiln
<@!140240447233589248> we need to shill it harder
thats because 1.5.0 was snapshot for so long
look its going back up now that 1.6 is out
vale rune
The ultimate chat solution.
Doesn't work with Paper, so please remove Paper. - kangarko.
heady spear
no carbs included
waxen panther
cloud 1.7: now with timings and an i18n library
we should shade a minecraft server implementation
wispy blade
yes.
wispy blade
i could help but i have no clue how javadocs work
waxen panther
perfect discussion
lean kiln
you're trolling
lean kiln
sponge support would be nice though
worn ember
hello brocc, big fan here
worn ember
novel horizon
😦
heady spear
@waxen panther https://mcchampionship.fandom.com/wiki/MCC_Island wtf they've literally figured it all out already
waxen panther
who leaked
worn ember
since when is a wiki page a subreddit?
heady spear
what?
worn ember
worn ember
whos randy
left swift
randy deez nuts
wispy blade
aussie guy making game in C
potent fossil
Life is pain
left swift
wispy blade
what has oracle done this time simple
potent fossil
Nothing, now I'm dealing with trying to get car insurance
thorny totem
Looking for a image into a map plugin, don't know the correct keywords to search, ImageOnMap isn't updated for 1.17.1 =X
peak ginkgo
I have a private version of it but it's scuffed lol
thorny totem
rip :/ I had "Stickers" before (Premium plugin) but the dev abandoned it since 1.13.x XD so im still looking for alternatives
toxic bone
mario
wispy blade
hmm, might finally take on that waterfall load balancer i wanted to make now i know more than basic java
shell vine
Looking for a image into a map plugin, don't know the correct keywords to search...
you can put images on map with the mcpainter plugin
as well as various other things
swift root
Are you alright
thorny totem
nice PhanaticD, I found ImageMap which works fine^^
shell vine
pog
tender igloo
crash
unkempt drift
brb, sending an email to mcdonalds legal team
warm anchor
https://i.qcfb.ca/20210813191749.png
I'll have two number 9s, a number 9 large, a number 6 with extra dip, a number 7, two number 45s, one with cheese, and a large soda.
wispy blade
@warm anchor hi neityeer
warm anchor
Hello n1oma how are you today
wispy blade
i am pretty well
vestal jasper
nothing like standing up too fast and involuntarily sitting back down
wispy blade
still considering making socialspy chatlogging plugin 🕵️
thorny totem
I'll have two number 9s, a number 9 large, a number 6 with extra dip, a number 7...
Want it delivered at your door or by pickup? 🤣 
lean kiln
drive thru
tropic flame
I'll have two number 9s, a number 9 large, a number 6 with extra dip, a number 7...
It's like it says in the book: we are blessed, and cursed.
novel horizon
Is https://github.com/PolyhedralDev/Terra good? 🤔
Seems kinda nice, gotta try it for longer period to see how it goes 🤔
warm anchor
It’s the only useable one worldgen wise
lean kiln
nah one sec
novel horizon
Seems kinda nice, gotta try to change world a bit
lean kiln
novel horizon
idk how much it affects performance or things though, I don't like that kinda
nice
warm anchor
There’s no other one out there I would use so it’s good 👍
novel horizon
lean kiln
for structures iirc
novel horizon
I'll try it, I want probably a harder map or so
maybe less ores and such, at least in overworld, not sure 🤔
Don't wanna overdo it so I can't update and such, idk for sure
lean kiln
https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/pull/4333 thats the other one
novel horizon
that's great
lean kiln
they don't use NMS basically, which is pretty different from other worldgen plugins
so like it'll probs work on 1.18 right away
novel horizon
lean kiln
there's like an NMS addon or something tho, probably join their discord if you got more questions
warm anchor
Jmp recommend it. I trust jmp with my first born 
novel horizon
waxen panther
perfect discussion
shell vine
brave radish
does anyone here understand Apple's new CSAM detection system?
I understand it in that I know (partially) how it works and what the practical and privacy implications are but I don't understand why they made such an effort to keep it "private" when they can see iCloud photos anyway
ancient bolt
afaik icloud photos are encrypted at rest so they can't generally see it
brave radish
well they are but they have the key
ancient bolt
yeah, but that key is only used in certain circumstances
novel horizon
It was a bit funny as Linus said from LTT
"hey apple help us find this serial killer" "wtf no"
brave radish
yeah, but that key is only used in certain circumstances
ye, but still, they have the photos anyway
ancient bolt
but the CSAM stuff has been around for years, that technology is nothing new
brave radish
and especially as it only gets scanned when the user uploads to iCloud the whole thing makes no sense (to me)
novel horizon
They will compare some data against their own, idk with what data, how would you get that data and such
ancient bolt
I've seen lots of people who seem to think it's AI driven, which it is not
brave radish
cuz the iMessage thing is
novel horizon
It will just probably compare the data in it, but still
It is weird to think about
brave radish
but that's opt-in and for underage users anyway
ancient bolt
From my understanding the CSAM stuff is 1. already mostly an industry standard, but also 2. almost certainly there for their own legal and auditing purposes
Because if they didn't do that then when someone says "why are you storing CSAM stuff on your servers?" they can say "we have a system in place to try to mitigate it" etc
golden gust
I mean, as I've said, note that literally every single application out there which deals with data and shit is generally following the trends of adding more protection and monitoring
brave radish
but, again, personally, if Apple can see my photos anyway (which they can if they wanted to badly enough), I would want them to just have their servers analyze them instead of my device and my battery
ancient bolt
well they have to do it on-device otherwise they have to use their government-request-only key which, if implemented correctly, is not something that can be used easily or automatically
golden gust
Theres a lot of shit in the legislative pipelines all around the world, and companies generally aim to try and stay head of the legislation to try and get some sway on it rather than peeps who grew up without computers deciding what the peeps who know how to actually program and use computers can do
brave radish
well they have to do it on-device otherwise they have to use their government-re...
well they can also just log themselves in to your account on icloud.com and see them all
novel horizon
Yeah that is kinda weird too, that approach
ancient bolt
no, they can't
novel horizon
to let your device do the work
brave radish
no, they can't
why not?
ancient bolt
the images are encrypted using keys associated with your account, which are unlocked with your password
brave radish
then what happens if you forget your password? wouldn't that mean you can't recover your photos by resetting it?
ancient bolt
from my understanding, again, everything goes off of what I understand right now
brave radish
judging by the fact that 1. Apple support can reset your password and 2. You can get your photos with just a password I would assume that there's nothing stopping them from just reading them (legal ramifications and public outrage aside)
ancient bolt
there's nothing stopping them technically no, other than violating their own ToS probably
potent fossil
Oh are we back on this
novel horizon
ancient bolt
the keys should only be able to be accessed using your password, though encryption is probably the wrong word. Hidden may be better
potent fossil
Yeah p much came to the conclusion last week (? dont remember) that it's generally a good idea but needs regulation because it sets a pretty dangerous precedent
ancient bolt
Apple is generally very good when it comes to security so that should be accurate
ancient bolt
Yeah p much came to the conclusion last week (? dont remember) that it's general...
yeah, good summary
brave radish
yeah I have nothing against the thing itself and agree with gimple and DenWav
I just want them to use their own CPUs for it
novel horizon
Yeah, that is a bit annoying
ancient bolt
a simpler explanation is probably just that by doing it on-device means they can continue to say they don't do anything with your photos after upload
which is the key thing
shell vine
i think ppl have bigger concerns than just the cpu usage lol
ancient bolt
simpler is usually right in cases like these
novel horizon
They have lots of them, but idk
ancient bolt
i don't think the CPU usage will be significant in any way
novel horizon
I wasn't watching that much info because idc about apple anyway, no devices
brave radish
The only way (unless there's some magic crypto stuff that exists and I've never heard of) that they could store iCloud photos in a way that they themselves cannot read is to use an encryption key that is a function of your password (or an encryption key that is encrypted with your password, etc) which clearly isn't the case
cunning raft
who keeps trolling and bringing this same topic every other day
shell vine
android gang 
novel horizon
well when they on purpose slow down their older phones along with these things, idk lol
potent fossil
I mean, we're not talking constant usage either. It'll probably only quickly scan photos as they're added. Not continuously and regularly scan the entire photo library
brave radish
who keeps trolling and bringing this same topic every other day
was wondering when you would come along to yell at me for that
potent fossil
(I don't know the deets tho)
ancient bolt
yeah once a photo is hashed you don't need to hash it again
shell vine
what if u crop a row of pixels
potent fossil
Right, it's hashing. Not scanning. My b
brave radish
ye I honestly don't care about the CPU usage that much either
it was more of a "I don't want them using my CPU for no real reason" than a "I don't want them using my CPU"
ancient bolt
the algorithm can handle resizing, I think even converting between image formats like png to jpeg, can't remember if it can handle cropping yet
novel horizon
it's all about small things
novel horizon
don't use iphone too, that is pretty nice
ancient bolt
i mean who wouldn't want to use google photos anyways
brave radish
turn off icloud then
Don't have it on, am speaking hypothetically
potent fossil
I mean for the vast majority it won't return results (fucking GREAT)...but for the people who take or download that shit on their phones... 🤢 If it helps catch them then I'm ok with it.
golden gust
The only legit case I've seen of apple slowing phones down is devices with older batteries
novel horizon
imagine having some image of your kid semi naked in bathtub with mom and they scanning it or smth and you get flagged
golden gust
most of it's just more advanced software running on a weaker CPU is gonna show some rough edges
brave radish
imagine having some image of your kid semi naked in bathtub with mom and they sc...
that's not how it works
potent fossil
it's hashing, then checking against a db of known csam
ancient bolt
"but still" -> not at all relevant
potent fossil
the picture of your child in the bath should not be in the db
novel horizon
and photos are really different
potent fossil
if it is, then you have other problems...
serene bolt
hopefully your family photos of you naked in the tub isn't in a known database somewhere 
brave radish
if it is, then you have other problems...
yeeee lol
novel horizon
I don't have kids 🤷♂️ just saying, idk how their system really works
brave radish
that's not 100% reliable
yes but it's literally over 99.99% reliable
and they wouldn't see the image unless there were like 30 false positives
potent fossil
so long as the csam hash is in the db, then it'll get em. and afaik interpol's db has billions of hashes
golden gust
Nobody knows how it's going to work in the long run
novel horizon
maybe that is true 🤔 I might have different idea of that system working
potent fossil
mf'in billions
olive marlin
Oh, so it's supposed to stop "known" CSAM from being sent?
potent fossil
yes
golden gust
That's why they have humans in towards the tail end of the system to prevent the implications of people getting reported to the agencies
potent fossil
you hash it with a hash function...lol
novel horizon
did you just feed it known images?
brave radish
Oh, so it's supposed to stop "known" CSAM from being sent?
the iMessage thing is different; that's AI. We're talking about uploading to iCloud
potent fossil
interpol did, the database is already made
serene bolt
if you want to see something that's really unreliable, try the discord safe filter :P
potent fossil
they have it already
golden gust
Well, yes... That's how a database works...
potent fossil
apple just checks against it
novel horizon
oh that makes sense ^^
novel horizon
if you want to see something that's really unreliable, try the discord safe filt...
true
golden gust
at the end of the day, the thing here is that it's not 100% apples choice to do this
potent fossil
INTERPOL’s Child Sexual Exploitation database holds more than 2.7 million images and videos and has helped identify 23,564 victims worldwide.
golden gust
If they didn't do this, they'd have to do something else
novel horizon
Sure
serene bolt
2.7 million images oof
novel horizon
if it helps even few people it's good
but that's far from few, it's a lot of people
golden gust
I mean, theres whole underground networks dedicated to this shit
it's fucking disgusting
potent fossil
That's just interpols, though. there are other organizations, such as NCMEC (national center for missing and exploited children), and others
potent fossil
Torch also...Ashton Kutcher's thing
waxen panther
bzzz brappppp brzzzz brap
potent fossil
has their own db afaik
warm anchor
> INTERPOL’s Child Sexual Exploitation database holds more than 2.7 million imag...
???
potent fossil
what
warm anchor
oh I read it wrong
potent fossil
Thorn, not Torch
potent fossil
i assume they do have the actual content as interpol specifically uses it to locate and rescue the children
ancient bolt
you have cases where the FBI raided and took over one of those sites and left it up for a few months, collecting logins and logging to they could find the people uploading those images and videos. So that's cool that they did that, but then there's also the issue of them hosting it for a few months, so yeah
warm anchor
i assume they do have the actual content as interpol specifically uses it to *lo...
imagine if a pedo somehow get a job there
golden gust
I mean, it's that fun morale compass and the slippery slope
warm anchor
potent fossil
interpol does their own thing with it, applying AI to try and identify the children in the csam and stuff to go save them, but the apple thing probably just hits their db with a hash for "yes matches" or "no match"
ancient bolt
I mean, I do get it and they were able to catch a lot of people, so I can't discount the effectiveness
warm anchor
LITarlly dream job
golden gust
at the end of the day, people are still gonna do this shit, these people often migrate across platforms like the wind
novel horizon
yeah
golden gust
It blows ass that they can't step in sooner, but, I mean, I'd rather an org actually do something to deal with these people than just cause them to migrate every few weeks or whatever
potent fossil
I mean... yeah, I don't know how it works but...
I would assume interpol would ensure the people have undergone very intense scrutiny before being allowed any access to that fuckery
ancient bolt
I've heard that the people who work in those departments of the FBI and NSA and also platforms like google and facebook, have serious PTSD issues from it, and don't really get any help or support for the work they do
novel horizon
yeah probably
potent fossil
But, who knows
novel horizon
not like "hey we're looking for new people to look through this....."
"just sign up and you can join tomorrow"
hmm
brave radish
I'm also intrigued by the legality behind designing a system with the sole purpose of finding known illegal content and sending it to Apple. That's not really any different then going on the internet and looking for it and then just telling the police it's for the good of the children
potent fossil
interpol is literally international criminal police 😅 I highly doubt they just hire ppl off the street
novel horizon
ofc
not like any criminal police hires like that
well.. most of them
maybe there's some 👀
potent fossil
if you're referring to the iPhone, it can't. all it does it hash the photo/video and check against db
warm anchor
oh that's fine then
potent fossil
matches? ok, alert. no match? ok, do nothing.
brave radish
if you're referring to the iPhone, it can't. all it does it hash the photo/video...
bot msg for this wen
ancient bolt
I'm also intrigued by the legality behind designing a system with the sole purpo...
This is really silly. As stated earlier this technology isn't new and most of the big companies are already using it / have already been using it for years
brave radish
This is really silly. As stated earlier this technology isn't new and most of th...
I mean it's not like anyone is gonna sue Apple for it
I said I was intrigued by it I didn't say it's gonna be the end of Apple or smth
novel horizon
it's difficult topic though
golden gust
it's almost like platforms practically have legal requirements to do this type of stuff and legal protections against getting fucked from it
novel horizon
if you are against any of that it looks like you are against the idea behind it lol
serene bolt
my dns provider has had a similar feature for over a year now
warm anchor
if anytihng, I'd trust apple more as their privacy rule is still better than say facebook or google.
warm anchor
(I really love thier appID system, that i dont need to give out my real email to sign up for a server that I am really only going to try it for a month or two)
novel horizon
we can still see just some image outside
brave radish
*it's almost like platforms practically have legal requirements to do this type ...
ye but other platforms already have the images by the time they scan them and did not know what they were when they obtained them; Apple is actively seeking them out
golden gust
Apple is just flagging them up to their systems so that they can refer them to the relevant agencies
warm anchor
I don't think they're any better though
Apple already does better in terms of appstore control. They get shit for it making those rules but the likelihood of you get a bad app from Apple Apple store is way lower than in andirod eco system
golden gust
the data is already being uploaded to their servers and they're legally protected against the original upload, much like facebook and twitter area if people upload such material
novel horizon
Yeah, but android is really different than ios
brave radish
Apple already does better in terms of appstore control. They get shit for it mak...
"Best Minecraft mod app! Over 10,000 to chose from!"
golden gust
There are legal exceptions iirc around processing the images for referral to agencies and moderation needs, etc
warm anchor
In a sense, Apple has the perferct eco system to try out such screening system.
brave radish
There are legal exceptions iirc around processing the images for referral to age...
ok so there we go then
idk why it's "really silly" to be intrigued by the intricacies of seemingly questionable legal situations
golden gust
The people who chime in often have as much if not less understanding of this mess than those who asked the question in the first place and it often just leads to which moron can fuck up the mixture first
brave radish
@warm anchor is now @EterNity - CEO of Broken Mob Spawns
warm anchor
<@!177150983258767360> is now @EterNity - CEO of Broken Mob Spawns
one day it will be fixed.
vestal jasper
Did you really join just to ping and harass someone?
novel horizon
Literally just first msg that lol
warm anchor
yes you can find a lot of server owners here
fleet osprey
last time I checked this is the papermc discord
vestal jasper
ok well when that's your first message you're not giving off best first impressions
warm anchor
last time I checked this is the papermc discord
it still is I think
novel horizon
probably
vestal jasper
yes'
warm anchor
wo nice
warm anchor
can you tell us more about it
novel horizon
tbh
fleet osprey
^
warm anchor
btw whos dreams? I havent open Youtube for like 6 months due to covid lockdown. Can you tell me this person? @idle zenith
vestal jasper
TheDream27?
fleet osprey
wattes this isn't the discord to contact help for my server, join our discord, idk why you think this was the place to go
novel horizon
I think he wanted help with server but saw you
idk how do you "saw" someone though
you just came here
that nick is down there somewhere
fleet osprey
so you just decided to ping me for no reason
warm anchor
You telling me you joined PaperMC and decided to scroll the userlist for 15 pages down
and find a person who you recogize as owner of legacy pvp?
vestal jasper
and then instantly ping them
warm anchor
vestal jasper
I don't think the owner of legacy of the pvp is gonna be very happy with you randomly pinging them
waxen panther
literal who
fleet osprey
he*
warm anchor
do you say hi to a pornstar if you see them on the street and attempt to shake hand with them? 
asking for a friend
novel horizon
doesn't matter though
chill ❤️
otherwise you will get kicked or worse lol
you do not shake hands with them, it's different, eternity
fleet osprey
I don't think the owner of legacy of the pvp is gonna be very happy with you ran...
if this guy keeps pinging me can they get banned
vestal jasper
illegal hand holding
vestal jasper
if this guy keeps pinging me can they get banned
please don't ping me
warm anchor
waxen panther
this chat is unreadable
warm anchor
I dont think the owner of largest pvp server pvp lagacy wants to be put on spotlight
waxen panther
so many levels of 
willow robin
Replying to people like that pings them tho 💀
novel horizon
well you are on spotlight
vestal jasper
when the owner of pvp largest pings u
novel horizon
reee its pvp legacy
fleet osprey
im just gonna block bye
novel horizon
vestal jasper
you literally pinged me to complain about someone pinging u, pls
warm anchor
You still havent tell me who dream is
novel horizon
oh
cunning raft
if this guy keeps pinging me can they get banned
no
novel horizon
like homer simpson?
warm anchor
is that what he famous for??
novel horizon
interesting
warm anchor
oh man that's kinda bad
yeah I told you I wasnt able to log into Yotubue due to covid lockdown @idle zenith
waxen panther
you are being trolled
novel horizon
some people are not from us you know
where these people are not known much
also most of the content is shit
cunning raft
!ban 858864245692301342 This is not some place for you to join to ping other people
thorny flickerBOT
:raised_hands: Banned wattes#4409 (This is not some place for you to join to ping other people) [1 total infraction] -- Joshie#0001.
golden gust
Does that mean that I should ping AoElite instead?
golden gust
Well, they was honest
cunning raft
i thought ao was just complaining about pings lulw
golden gust
They can't be banned if they keep pinging as they've already been banned for pinging
brave radish
Does that mean that I should ping AoElite instead?
yes cat has ping rights for @everyone
warm anchor
cunning raft
@everyone
golden gust
Oh, should I try it?
novel horizon
hey jroy
waxen panther
@everyone
novel horizon
how u doing
golden gust
shame
cunning raft
novel horizon
Oh, should I try it?
do it and delete the msg 👀
lean kiln
perfect discussion
novel horizon
jmp ❤️
warm anchor
@cunning raft as development team of Paper Kernel you should be on your best behavior!
vestal jasper
wait did ao ping me thinking i'm a mod?
novel horizon
😠
golden gust
jmp is a slut
brave radish
yes people without tables are mods
golden gust
who always has a rubber in his butt
novel horizon
yeah josh probably
vestal jasper
listen i'm just missing my table and i'm grumpy about it, I don't moderate
golden gust
and everytime he turns around it goes putt putt
waxen panther
probably just wanted someone to stop the child from pinging him and you were the only one talking with a colour :p
lean kiln
cunning raft
<@!194473148161327104> as development team of Paper Kernel you should be on your...
i always have to do a little bit of trolling
novel horizon
pink nick? must be a mod 👀
true canyon
@vestal jasper Get a table.
waxen panther
sezu
golden gust
waxen panther
since when is mbax a mod here 
vestal jasper
as soon as I get my table back I become a white name
warm anchor
Pink name is for certified™️ Discord Moderator no?
novel horizon
lol
vestal jasper
part of the deal
warm anchor
Michael and Djay both got it!
true canyon
Hai brocc
lean kiln
since when is mbax a mod here <:troll:601745859482353664>
mbax is based
vestal jasper
I give paper my table, I get a coloured name
lean kiln
lol
true canyon
based on a popular book series
warm anchor
Faction UUID 
true canyon
(YA series probably)
waxen panther
1.7 support moment
warm anchor
cant be worse than Kneny. He literally enable people to continue to use old version 
novel horizon
lean kiln
based on what
true canyon
TIL there's a gorgc discord. I'm sure it's full of pleasant content.
cunning raft
someone who sucks at java will fill his place
novel horizon
yeah for sure mbax
novel horizon
yeah unfortunately
warm anchor
TIL there's a gorgc discord. I'm sure it's full of pleasant content.
dota gamer united?
novel horizon
I don't think they really wanted help tho
warm anchor
its only you me and Ded here
vestal jasper
we all know they didn't
warm anchor
tfw mbaxter is in r/dota 2 Discord wtf
warm anchor
"totally not stalking"
novel horizon
not stalking
you just click them by accident and see they're on mutual discord 👀
I don't watch any dota content other than singsing, but he plays lots of things, so
dota is ew
don't wanna play it and also people are bad and toxic 
true canyon
The trick to playing dota is to play as a 5 man squad
That's why I'm stuck playing by myself and have rage every few days
novel horizon
still tho I have a thing that I think everything is my fault I don't like to play any pvp
even as a 5 man idk if i would play it
it should be def better
but still
I won't play lol as a 5 man but that game is really boring to me
vestal jasper
the trick to playing MOBAs is to play a completely different game and don't let your life be ensnared by them
warm anchor
The trick to playing dota is to play as a 5 man squad
This is very true
dota solo can cause mental break downs
novel horizon
I play from time to time with bots
true canyon
I have played a lot of games lately, and like 3 of them were with one other person I know 😦
novel horizon
well.. I didn't played for a years maybe
novel horizon
I play sometimes a game, then leave it for week, then another, then don't play half a year and such
I don't watch that it's meh for me
warm anchor
I been to TI4 5 6 8
it was a lot of fun meeting the people I plat with at tournament arena
novel horizon
there's some ai and they're nice, last time i played with some sirius ai and it was decent
it's just chill, no stress, nothing, you can turn it off anytime you want ^^
warm anchor
@novel horizon did you watch the TI when they have OpenAI vs pros?
it was SF vs SF 1 vs 1 mid
novel horizon
I watched it a bit only
warm anchor
that was epic
warm anchor
bots with perfiect blocking
novel horizon
Yeah
they can be really good
and also if they teach more and more for real, damn
warm anchor
novel horizon
playing against yourself more and more like that
novel horizon
yeah
potent fossil
Is there a service anymore out there kinda like Klarna/SplitPay/blablabla that extends a quick line of credit to cover something, but only for the purpose of allowing you to quickly split a payment among friends? 🤔 Like, it'll cover the payment, then you gotta each settle your dues in the app later or whatever
anywhere* not anymore
(I know you can do it with a credit card then just have your friends pay you, but I'm wondering about an AIO service for this niche)
olive marlin
There's Splitwise, where one person covers it, and then you have a balance to pay later. Which is super useful when you often do pay between same friends, since you can just have the person with highest negative balance pay next bill.
warm anchor
that would kinda be weird for any creditor as they essentially creates more point of failure in a sense now instead of 1 person on hook they have to collect the money from, you are collecting from mutiple so most service will be like what prof said 1 person STILL pay for it but gives you a way to collect from friends.
potent fossil
Ah okay, pretty good. But not a LoC. That's fine tho, may work
Yeah I know, I was just wondering
I mean I was thinking the person who actually makes the purchase will be the only signer on the LoC, so at the end of the day it's their debt should their friends default. But specifically was interested if one existed where it actually extends the LoC vs you using an existing LoC and just managing the payments from friends
But that's fine, Splitwise is close enough
It's not even necessary, I was just curious
warm anchor
what my office use is just transfer money via bank account
that Zelle network or sometihng like that
potent fossil
yea, it's easy enough to do what im thinking in a myriad of ways
warm anchor
that many bank has signed up for
warm anchor
you can just text lunchbox money to your friend and they can collect via text/email
potent fossil
zelle is bank of america's thing right
potent fossil
oh
warm anchor
so pretty much all major banks will work now in US
I just scan through the list
it's designed for friends though coz you cant revert charge iirc
chrome quest
Hello. So recently my server has sent me messages saying it’s on fire while nobody was online. This has never happened before and nothing has changed on to cause this.
Nothing that would lead me to think this.
It sent the messages through discord SRV.
warm anchor
Hello. So recently my server has sent me messages saying it’s on fire while nobo...
If you already have Essentialsx you can try Essentialsx-Discord. It's new and much lighter than SRV and all config is well documented
cunning raft
chrome quest
Is discordsrv causing it?
novel horizon
no
golden gust
I mean, afaik, means your server took too long to tick, see timings
novel horizon
probably not
golden gust
otherwise, 🤷♂️
novel horizon
it just says that if tps goes below some number i think
warm anchor
yeah iirc it's based on tps not watchdog dump
novel horizon
turn it off or lower the tps or probably fix that issue
warm anchor
I could be wrong though I dont really use that
novel horizon
tps should not go down when there's nothing happening
chrome quest
The server restarted like normal and then about a half an hour later when it’s just idling I get the messages.
warm anchor
next time it happens, grab a timing right away with /timings report
chrome quest
It happened while I was asleep at 2am.
It does look like the server stopped responding so I’m currently downloading the logs to my computer to see it.
warm anchor
searching for the time when it happens (2 AM) will be your best bet
chrome quest
I should write a script to combine log files that happened on the same day
warm anchor
to see anything unusual
chrome quest
cunning raft
ProjectileKnockback is doing an http request on the main thread
waxen panther
PERFECT
chrome quest
Is that causing it?
cunning raft
yes
warm anchor
The knockback was so strong, it took your server with it @chrome quest
chrome quest
Either way I removed the plugin.
warm anchor
JRoy saved the day 
cunning raft
JRoy saved the day <:Pog:654918923489247233>
now PLEASE use essx discord
unkempt drift
so... that plugin has a bstats chart for server ip? https://bstats.org/plugin/bukkit/ProjectileKnockback/10122
why is that a chart?
warm anchor
now PLEASE use essx discord
I already use it wdym 
lean kiln
omegalul wat
cunning raft
its feature complete
lean kiln
cunning raft
just need to write docs
unkempt drift
bstatsMetrics.addCustomChart((Metrics.CustomChart)new Metrics.SimplePie("server_ip", () -> {
try {
URL url = new URL("https://api.ipify.org");
Scanner scanner = new Scanner(url.openStream(), "UTF-8");
scanner.useDelimiter("\\A");
String next = scanner.next();
scanner.close();
return (next == null) ? "unknown" : next;
} catch (Exception exception) {
return "unknown";
}
}));
definitely is lmao
viral hornet
JRoy just cant stand <@!171898972330262538> 's annoying complain
what
warm anchor
@serene bolt hello pure can Spigot moderator do something 
@viral hornet its a joke oh hi camm
cunning raft
pure is not the bstats mod 
warm anchor
wdym pure is mod of everywhere
warm anchor
@chrome quest that plugin is probably a backend server IP leaker for force OP attack
(for dumb server owner that dont secure backend properly)...?
time to PR @thin apex
chrome quest
Are you saying my players were exposed?
true canyon
wanders off to mention iP collection to bastian
warm anchor
@chrome quest your server's IP is (for certain setup, some server will not want their backend IP leaked)
lean kiln
yeah
viral hornet
@cunning raft how are you going to be defining groups in-game to match roles on Discord?
true canyon
There probably is one, but I just reached out via another place I share with bastian
chrome quest
What do you mean by backend IP?
waxen panther
the one use for m.o.s.s
warm anchor
@chrome quest I mean your server's IP. There are some network that has frontend and backend IP
@chrome quest just remove it, I doubt you will be a target.
cunning raft
<@!194473148161327104> how are you going to be defining groups in-game to match ...
two different sections, you can seperately map vault groups to discord roles and vice versa
chrome quest
I did remove it but I only have one IP that I know of.
viral hornet
two different sections, you can seperately map vault groups to discord roles and...
Yeah epic. 
cunning raft
the default config is on the pr if you want to peak
warm anchor
couldnt you just send DM to member with a code?
cunning raft
oh to link accounts? that's done with discord slash commands
viral hornet
Yeah lemme know if you ever want me to test a specific build with it too, happy to throw it on production between restarts
cunning raft
also obligatory: hi discordsrv lurkers!
warm anchor
LMAO
viral hornet
Camm testing on production <a:PensiveGiga:731338996697006214>
Only certain things lol, something like linking roles from minecraft -> discord aint gonna hurt much
true canyon
also obligatory: hi discordsrv lurkers!
Smile for the camera snip tool!
warm anchor
I use EsSEX and now Camm's mom is happier 😎
viral hornet
pardon
warm anchor
viral hornet
runs
unkempt drift
rebrand EssX as CMI+
viral hornet
LOL
warm anchor
FastAysncCMI
viral hornet
too cancerous tyvm MM
unkempt drift
$150 plugin for free!
warm anchor
All dev hates him!
People get paid $500 an hour developing and JRoy just did it for FREE! unacceptable! breaking the market!
viral hornet
Speaking of all dev hates him, I was updating a plugin yesterday and:
https://i.imgur.com/455wpp1.png
😔
warm anchor
lean kiln
BossTM
viral hornet
jmpTM
unkempt drift
I haven't heard of that one, what's it do?
novel horizon
😮
warm anchor
In fact, all the public plugin that's popular for common p2w server are all ass
viral hornet
imma make a new plugin
nah can I pay you to make a simple chat plugin first? PLEASE xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
warm anchor
(coz most big network will have custom solution and wont share them)
warm anchor
jmp will revive CarbonChat
we will just rename it to JMP™️Chating with as the plugin logo
lean kiln
viral hornet
JMPCHAT™️
bright pollen
warm anchor
perosnal world with 500x500 border for $10 a month
😉
Ability to ask TetraTheta a very personal question for $20 a month. (limited 1 very personal question per month)
I mean if you have MiniMOTD you can just give them ability to have a message displayed on it
It's a fun plugin where you can rotate MOTD of your server
We put some jokes on it
so it is alawys different
it's made by jmp too
wild fern
Is there any mod?
grand pewter
its a plugin
wild fern
No lmao
warm anchor
@thin apex we have some really dumb joke on it
it can rotate server icon too so I just put 200 of my discord emojis onto it
grand pewter
wait rotatable icons?
warm anchor
yeah
grand pewter
i thought those were cached
grand pewter
ok now thats cool
novel horizon
I thought that worked few years back too
thorny totem
novel horizon
lol
unkempt drift
"in your pant"?
wild fern
Does anyone know if I can talk privately with aikar?
grand pewter
i mean i havent tried it in a few years
novel horizon
yes just meet him at his home
warm anchor
"in your pant"?
unkempt drift
@wild fern about what
grand pewter
i just know the icon was really slow to update if i tried to change it
novel horizon
he'll talk to you privately
wild fern
<@!308958668756484096> about what
Emc
warm anchor
They have offical channel on their website
unkempt drift
I think there's a discord server for that
wild fern
Yep ty
warm anchor
I dont think anyone likes random DM
warm anchor
@waxen panther
waxen panther
warm anchor
ok I will fix on next restart 
waxen panther
plurals are eternitys greatest enemy
novel horizon
okay I activated YT premium just to try it and because of nitros 3 months premium free (works only in few countries, not in mine apparently)
and i have it like 3 days
and now i got email
lol and i also got 2 emails, one in czech and second in english
solar barn
Hi guys! I have a question about server-resource pack. I'm trying to prevent player from renaming my server-resourcepack with .zip in the end to prevent them using my pack. My question is how do I let players use my resource pack ONLY in my server
novel horizon
idk if you tried that but there's this https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/force-resourcepacks.10499/ from phoenix ❤️
potent fossil
It's gotta download it to work in any case, so it'll be on their PC. However, yes, you can at least force them to use it.
But if you have a resource pack, you can't really stop them from getting it and using it elsewhere.
solar barn
My concern is what if they disconnect
novel horizon
What do you mean