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wispy blade
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shouldnt it do that automatically?

ashen cliff
potent fossil
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offline mode 👎

neon shuttle
left swift
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glass 🥶 👎

viral hornet
warm anchor
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pirate spotted

ashen cliff
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Epic.

viral hornet
stable lily
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wth

waxen schooner
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is it just me or is the new name for all the local variables in the obfuscated code ☃

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because it used to just be the snowman, but it doesn't seem to be the snowman anymore

tender badge
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what plugin about login look good for 1.17 now?

warm anchor
waxen schooner
viral hornet
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Sounds like a pirate question

warm anchor
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The best login plugin is Online mode: true

tender badge
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i mean which authentication plugin like authme looking ok in 1.17 for now

waxen panther
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You wont find much help for offline plugins here

viral hornet
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because offline mode bad

waxen schooner
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anyone got any decent recommendations for tools to remap the obfuscated JARs with official mappings btw?

waxen panther
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VanillaGradle

waxen schooner
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Sponge's VanillaGradle, right?

waxen panther
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Yea

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it's what i use at least, works well

waxen schooner
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ah alright, will give it a try, thanks

tender badge
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ok i think it's look piracy so nvm for my question

viral hornet
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no worries

lavish flower
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e pedale iskate li pomo6t?

waxen panther
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english ples

waxen schooner
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does VG support 1.17 yet btw?

waxen panther
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Yes

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it doesn't require updating for new versions afaik

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it even works for snapshots :p

waxen schooner
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oh nice

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does this use FF or CFR for decompilation?

waxen panther
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FF

waxen schooner
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ah okay

left swift
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BomBardyRealms

waxen schooner
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I wonder if/when the upgrade to CFR will be made in the Minecraft community

waxen panther
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No time soon, a lot of people have put a lot of work into building upon FF

waxen schooner
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yeah

waxen panther
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CFR is better at new language features but FF is more than mine

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fine*

waxen schooner
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yeah

left swift
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Brocc bro

waxen panther
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BRO

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@left swift 😡

lime ginkgo
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So I want to open a server in like a week or so, would yall recommend waiting for paper or start it as a spigot server

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1.17*

waxen panther
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You can start on Spigot and upgrade to Paper when it's out

lime ginkgo
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fair point

waxen schooner
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oh also, would anyone mind giving me a hand figuring out what went wrong in net.minecraft.util.datafix.fixes.AddNewChoices? and how to fix it? the hasType check seems to complain about being the wrong type

wispy blade
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bombardybigbrain

waxen schooner
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I've tried everything I could think of, but nothing seemed to make it not whine at me

wispy blade
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@SuppressWarnings /s

left swift
viral hornet
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Wouldn't run in production, especially if you plan to pregenerate the world, because that would probably take a week itself kekw

waxen panther
viral hornet
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oop I was scrolled up

left swift
waxen panther
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I am here to confirm that it is indeed going

waxen schooner
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oh also, broc, is there a way you can get extracted source you can edit with VG? or is that not what it's for?

left swift
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That pineapple guy stole ur name bro

waxen panther
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uhhh I havent tried, if you've used the decompile task changes there miiight be reflected

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not sure, give it a go

waxen schooner
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the decompile task seems to add it as a dependency, can probably find those sources somewhere

proud marsh
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Hi

left swift
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Epic games is pretty epic

waxen panther
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no

left swift
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Yes bro

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Look all the epic game boosts

waxen panther
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dirty egs boosts

left swift
ashen cliff
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Tencent Games™️.

proud marsh
left swift
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Tencord

still ginkgo
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how do most of u guys plan to upgrade your server to 1.17? full reset or re-generate world? or are there other options idk

wispy blade
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replace jar and have the newly generated chunks be 1.17

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ez

left swift
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I plan on first going to the store and buying a nice big bag of Tostinos™️ pepperoni pizza rolls and some mountain dew voltage. When I get home I'll preheat my oven to 425 degrees freedom. After the timer goes off I'll lay out the pizza rolls on a cooking sheet and pop them into the oven and let them bake for about 12 minutes. Afterwards I'll pull them out of the oven and grab a plate. I'll sit down at my desk with my mountain dew voltage and Tostinos™️ pepperoni pizza rolls and cry for about 30 minutes about a BTS picture I saw 3 weeks ago. Then I'll eat while I replace my jar with the paper 1.17 and turn on the server.

waxen panther
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are you okay mana

still ginkgo
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thats pretty autist but thanks

left swift
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You're the updater bro brocc

bold peak
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I'm amazed at the transparency of the paper team during the update

warm anchor
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I mean who you comparing to? spigot? PepeLa

ashen cliff
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Well. It's open source anyway. kekwhyper

bold peak
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unless they did the same thing in their discord

warm anchor
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you will have to install camera in md_5's house if you want his transparency

left swift
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If you subscribe to spigots $250 tier on patreon you get access to the CCTV cameras

bold peak
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hah

waxen panther
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Spigot did nothing and tell you nothing until its done, and by spigot i mean god king md_69

warm anchor
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sir you need to captailzed the G and K

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The God King md_69

waxen panther
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The Greatest God King, md_69, Ruler of all and Minecraft Developer Extraordinaire

mossy cliff
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Guys which plugins do you use to auto login premium players?

left swift
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Where do I recognize that name from

bold peak
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md_5?

warm anchor
bold peak
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lol was gonna say the same thing

left swift
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No gloriah burger

mossy cliff
left swift
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Illegal

mossy cliff
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Ur mom is illegal

warm anchor
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we dont do that here. You wont get support for it @mossy cliff

wispy blade
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tempted to do @ mods

left swift
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That's why she doesnt play anymore

wispy blade
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asks for support for pirated players
gets mad when people don't support piracy

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just a regular day in papermc

tropic flame
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thank me later

mossy cliff
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I use fast login but that doesn't work on 1.17 due to the library not working on 1.17

tropic flame
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then you will have to wait for it to update

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nothing i can do

mossy cliff
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Ooof

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Why do so many plugins break though? Isn't the API meant to prevent this from happening?

waxen panther
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no

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If plugins need updates, they need updates

tropic flame
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if the plugin does not use the API but instead makes use of the server's internals then it will break on each Minecraft update

ashen cliff
wispy blade
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krusic bro!

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how are you doing

ashen cliff
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Very good bro. Just made the most epic bot for AuthMe. kekwhyper

wispy blade
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yo

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epic

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can you show me

ashen cliff
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I don't think I can without getting banned from here.

wispy blade
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just dm me a screenshot bro

left swift
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Open source bro

ashen cliff
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I'll just DM you the best feature we got.

wispy blade
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that's epic bro

ashen cliff
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Thanks bro.

wispy blade
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gold medal earned bro

waxen panther
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Bro. Least bulkan bot .

wispy blade
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doesnt need to balkan to be amazing bro

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though being balkan would make it more amazing ofc

tropic flame
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my bad

ashen cliff
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Good bro.

remote roost
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Where do we get notified when Paper 1.17 is out?

tropic flame
limber knotBOT
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I guess in #1.17

tropic flame
ashen cliff
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In other news, my 50k torrents are almost done downloading. kekwhyper

remote roost
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Okay!

wispy blade
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what are you torrenting bro

waxen panther
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all of kgb

ashen cliff
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Eveything bro.

left swift
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50k versions of authme bro

wispy blade
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20 TB

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damn

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wish i had that kinda hardware bro

ashen cliff
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Don't worry bro. All in the CLOUD.

wispy blade
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i don't have the money for the CLOUD bro

olive marlin
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All on 5$ Minecraft server with unlimited storage?

night forum
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But if you use the CLOUD its cheap

left swift
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KGB cloud bro

untold copper
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@worn ember inscriber automation is needlessly complicated .

limber knotBOT
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Cloud isn't cheap at this size xD

olive garden
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no one linked https://offlinemo.de/ ? you guys are a disappointment

worn ember
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its not that complicated

untold copper
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like me kekwhyper

worn ember
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use deez nuts

untold copper
prisma rampart
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https://offlinemo.de/ what about if you use offline mode for waterfall do you still get support

wispy blade
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yes

golden gust
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if your proxy is in online mode, yes

worn ember
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if you ask nicely

golden gust
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fuck off DED

wispy blade
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i always ask nicely

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because my parents raised me well

worn ember
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love you too rug shitter ❤️

olive garden
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cat, I think I saw you as a pigeon yesterday

waxen panther
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fuck off DED

worn ember
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brocc, go choke on a phat noodle

olive garden
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I wanted to eat ice cream on my terrace, but there was a pigeon there. I tried hushing it away with little success. A few seconds later it shit on the terrace and flew away.

left swift
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fuck off DED

olive garden
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so yeah that's how I imagine cat

golden gust
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lol

worn ember
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wtf @ mods i'm being bullied

untold copper
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don't fuck of DED

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you're uh a friend

golden gust
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It's not bullying if it's justified

left swift
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Go eat some tostitos pizza rolls ded

untold copper
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:3

golden gust
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Snoopa, you want some knee pads?

untold copper
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wat

left swift
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Use code nomana for 5% off

untold copper
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ok i guess

golden gust
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Am just thinking

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while you're down there kissing his ass

untold copper
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oh no cats thinking

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bai

golden gust
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Don't wanna bust your knees up

wispy blade
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i mean

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DED's kinda smol

worn ember
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opening this chat was a mistake

left swift
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Snoopa doesnt have to kneel down he just like 3'5"

wispy blade
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TRUE

worn ember
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hey im not that small

golden gust
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DED, the biggest mistake in your life was "surely the condom won't break"

left swift
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Ded is 5'6" and 3/4

worn ember
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that was my dads mistake, not mine

left swift
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Cat is angry wtf

mossy vessel
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cat, why are you like that.

left swift
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Who spat in ur tea

prisma rampart
limber knotBOT
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oof, aikars site is down

wispy blade
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5'6"

limber knotBOT
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wait no, it just takes ages

golden gust
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Many, many years of neglect

worn ember
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someone plz mute cat

wispy blade
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i though DED was 5'8"

left swift
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I'll neglect you cat

golden gust
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spin into a basket case of self deprecation and dark humour

prisma rampart
left swift
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So you feel at home

untold copper
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.wa 163cm to ft

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or is it f

worn ember
untold copper
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hM

golden gust
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Damn, all these peeps in here

cosmic raft
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thank you leaf

limber knotBOT
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golden gust
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Threatening me with a good time

worn ember
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ok back to suffering with node, bye

wispy blade
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.wa 167cm to ft

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my length ^

limber knotBOT
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left swift
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That's pretty long 😳

untold copper
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im just slightly shorter

golden gust
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MARY JANES A MAN IN A MASK!

untold copper
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.wa 163cm to ft

olive garden
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and now that we know your length, what's your height?

untold copper
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re

limber knotBOT
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wispy blade
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i am square.

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cuz i wasn't there 😔

worn ember
golden gust
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Gal be lyk, I don't need no man to reach the top shelf

worn ember
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i think you missed the joke

wispy blade
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i did not, in fact, miss the joke

golden gust
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#UltraPeen

worn ember
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and its not even sunday yet

wispy blade
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cat always dirty minded 😔

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should change your discord pfp to feature minecraft dirt, cat

worn ember
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he's gotta dream about all the action he's not getting

wispy blade
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instead of numbers

olive garden
worn ember
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as if any are his ;p

modern tapir
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hello, i am new here, is there any tree chopper plugin in paper ?

worn ember
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the same one as for spigot

modern tapir
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what is the name ?

worn ember
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im sure google knows

upbeat falconBOT
golden gust
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oh no, oh no, oh no no no no

modern tapir
worn ember
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bruh why you asking me

golden gust
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We're not google

wispy blade
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READ THE DOCS PEOPLE

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🗣️ 📣

worn ember
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i didnt make it, so how would i know

modern tapir
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sorry i am not very big brain

worn ember
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cat, how many patches did you do?

golden gust
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I was debating on doing some once last person left last night but spotted jumped on so i've not had the ability to touch it yet

wispy blade
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cat's too busy shitting on rugs 😔

golden gust
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Joys of a system which is not really designed for multiple peeps

worn ember
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i see

modern tapir
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ok thanks for the plugin

worn ember
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that'll be $5.99

left swift
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Ded so helpful

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Very poggers

olive garden
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PRs can be reviewed in parallel 😉 😉

worn ember
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i'm very helpfull when i'm not being spammed with "fuck off DED"

olive garden
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fuck off ded

golden gust
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main branch is paused

worn ember
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wtf you cant pause online games

olive garden
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reviewing doesn't always have to be followed by merging

tropic flame
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guys at the voice channel: don't forget to sleep

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don't get unhealthy

olive garden
waxen panther
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Gross

warm anchor
olive garden
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wdym paused? it was never running to start with

warm anchor
wispy blade
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♨️

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java

left swift
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Just let everyone teamviewer into your pc

unique plover
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lo l

left swift
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What if you just all worked together in google docs and then pasted it in IJ kekwhyper

pseudo shadow
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I can help finish all the patches in one day, here are my experiences to prove it:

  • I can open milk bags in Canada without a knife or scissors

  • I replaced my bike seat by myself

  • I made boiled eggs without cracking any of them

  • I can turn off my PC with a wii remote

vale rune
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Cool bro. Just one more requirement. You Albanian?

waxen panther
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average spigot contrib

mental meadow
waxen panther
fallen oracle
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Morning

pseudo shadow
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I'm not Albanian 😔

ashen cliff
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@vale rune BRO!

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THEY GOT US BRO!

vale rune
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BRO!

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SHIT BRO!

waxen panther
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lmao

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i have a ton registered already 😎

night mason
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So did they finish coding

twin lagoon
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no

night mason
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Damn

warm anchor
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Yeah man. Just finish coding /s

potent fossil
ashen cliff
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Bro!

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I'll send you one.

potent fossil
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Thanks bro.

ashen cliff
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kekwhyper You need to have at least one email from them.

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Very epic email.

potent fossil
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I have 0 email with them

ashen cliff
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Sad.

potent fossil
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Can I get one if you invite me

ashen cliff
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Soon brother™️.

prisma rampart
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can i get one too

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please

worn crest
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zzzcat is in entwicklungsgeräusche 🥳

mental meadow
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great, tell me if he learned to speak english yet

worn crest
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whut 😄

worn ember
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@woven otterpoopiepat

wispy blade
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wdym he's just taking care of cat's rug shit

worn ember
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Hello ducker, i'd like to inform you that you will be served at 7pm this evening

left swift
wind geyser
worn ember
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you're the one getting served

left swift
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Chefs choice

left swift
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Ur gonna make the mods mad posting gifs in general chat pokiModCheck

worn ember
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mOMEGALULds

void void
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hey gamers

left swift
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Hey new duck

void void
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ban the mods

waxen panther
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true

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ban the mods and make broccolai king mod

void void
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you heard it here first kids

waxen panther
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no!

olive marlin
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ban CEOs?

waxen panther
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ceo of banning

warm anchor
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Duck belongs to only one place

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And it’s my dinner table

wind geyser
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Pride cake is best cake

warm anchor
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Wow rude Pout

left swift
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CEO of class mod

wind geyser
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Also, how’s the progress going with the new update?

left swift
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Vote brocc for class moderator and he'll put cookies in the vending machines and paper in 1.17

waxen panther
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TRUE

wind geyser
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Can’t

left swift
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Cant read

wind geyser
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That too

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I don’t like reading anyways

pine quail
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so uh, when will paper 1.17 be out?

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kk

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thx

waxen panther
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bruh

cunning raft
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@waxen panther

waxen panther
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hello joshua roy

pine quail
cunning raft
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What is the news Mr ceo

waxen panther
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there is NO news

wind geyser
wind geyser
lost trail
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Ikr that would be wonderful!

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Splendid, even

left swift
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Nah

mortal zinc
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this is probably the oldest still existing comment in CB

vernal moth
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well yes

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that was part of the initial commit, right?

mortal zinc
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yeah

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lol

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i guess no one got around to the installation script, w/e that was supposed to be

runic hearth
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PaperGOD

vernal moth
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influx

twin lagoon
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questdb

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influxdb 2.0 is dum

worn ember
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use 1.9 then zoop

wispy blade
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if you're just storing metrics you could just do it in a text file right

short yarrow
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Isn't influxdb only used if you need map data to a specific point in time? My data does have time, but not in a time series fashion

worn ember
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i only used it for time series so no clue if you can do other configurations with it

worn ember
wispy blade
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^

glossy mica
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.try

limber knotBOT
crystal compass
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// Do you love Java using + and ! as string based identifiers? I sure do! tf LOL

warped prairie
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!eta

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.eta

limber knotBOT
turbid oar
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Hey guys long time no see 👋

stiff yew
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Yes

warped prairie
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Oh wait Spigot exists

fallow tapir
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Soon(tm)

warped prairie
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Nvm take your time

turbid oar
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Watching this guys stream on vc the way the code is layout is dope

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🙂

warped prairie
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At least Spigot is better than nothing

vernal moth
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debatable, lol

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also, everything is unstable, you dont wanna run it in production

turbid oar
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Hello MiniDigger

quasi valley
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the only good it’s for is having parts of api early pepela

vernal moth
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the immense api changes spigot did

tired heath
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Well should I just add 1.17 to my plugin or download Spigot and test it once hmm difficult decision 🙂

olive marlin
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Is there anywhere I can lookup API the Vanilla Launcher uses? I don't see it on wiki.vg.

snow crescent
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The stream would be good apart from minidigger's awful interesting color scheme

wispy blade
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preference

snow crescent
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Oh actually looks like you're on default now

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default is fine

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I approve

olive marlin
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I need to figure out how to get the vanilla RP.

vernal moth
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its default, lol

tulip inlet
# olive marlin Is there anywhere I can lookup API the Vanilla Launcher uses? I don't see it on ...
Minecraft Wiki

version_manifest.json is the file containing a list of Java Edition versions from launchermeta.mojang.com. It lists Minecraft versions available in the launcher.
If a version is absent from this list, it is considered unavailable from the launcher.
This list is updated every time Mojang publishes a new version for Minecraft: Java Edition.

vernal moth
golden gust
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the color scheme is fine, it's just discords compression fucking butchers it

vernal moth
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use twitch smh

wispy blade
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isnt it just IJ's default

worn ember
golden gust
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Yea, that's the defaults as he already said

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It looks fine on my IDE, just doesn't seem to cope with the streaming all too well

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IJs darcula is basically nice enough for me to not care about anything, I do add rainbow brackets just for the extra nicety, but otherwise 🤷‍♂️

worn ember
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rainbow brackets are evil

golden gust
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it's really nice for min-diff crap

mental meadow
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also nyan cat loading bar

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important

ashen cliff
worn ember
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wym readd its nto even removed lol

wispy blade
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will be fixed in 1.18

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trust bro

golden gust
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no trust bro

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do me dirty bro

worn ember
wispy blade
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alright

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drags cat through playground sandbox

turbid oar
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I haven't been listening much at all but what is the main object you guys doing in vc?

olive marlin
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Watching people update Paper?

prisma rampart
waxen panther
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discord srv

potent fossil
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i just love how delightfully nonchalant this lad is https://youtu.be/0mGhhdPgXG8

Full making of the video popping a 5000A fuse.
Most of the components came from authorized scrap and recycling merchants.
Thank you to my close friends for pointing out the companies that deal with this scrap.
Even dirty old cable from the scrap wire bin can be cleaned and reused.
General public may be prohibited from purchasing such equipment u...

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wispy blade
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i watched that

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the amount of times he says "good" is infuriating

potent fossil
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he's just so god damn british

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just so fucking british

worn ember
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why is it almost 20 minutes

frank otter
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speaking of British

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it doesn't make sense to try to boil a cup of tea by compressional heating doesn't it

potent fossil
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u wot

worn ember
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tf does that even mean

frank otter
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iirc compressional heating is when u go fast

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and like fast fast

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and the air flowing past you is enough to heat things up

potent fossil
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wouldnt that be kinetic heating

frank otter
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dammit probably

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I don't know my physics terms

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how fast would you have to go to boil a cup of tea

potent fossil
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kinetic heating would be heating due to friction due to motion

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but uhhhh idfk lmao

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fast

frank otter
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yeah that

wispy blade
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1.17? what's that? 1.10's around the corner bro

frank otter
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oh I remembered something from an ckcs

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xlcs

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xkcd

wispy blade
#

LOL

potent fossil
#

is it Purity

frank otter
#

concorde had heat resistant shish on leading wing edges

#

because you started to notice this heating at about mach 2

#

it was a what if

potent fossil
#

Pencil dead?

frank otter
#

pencil is bot yes?

potent fossil
#

ye

#

.g xkcd purity

limber knotBOT
wispy blade
#

true

frank otter
#

math is the only tru science

#

okay I made a discovery

wispy blade
#

nah fam

#

it started with thinking

frank otter
#

to boil a cup of water you would have to drop it from higher than the atmosphere

potent fossil
#

indeed

#

you have to be going really fast near earth's surface for the air to cause substantial enough friction for there to be heating, so if you want to boil some water you gotta start waaaaay up there cause most of the heat is gonna come from the initial few kilometers of falling at the top of the atmosphere

frank otter
#

if that skydiving dude had a cold cup of tea

#

would it have boiled

potent fossil
#

maybe but so would he 😎

frank otter
#

hey, tea is tea

potent fossil
#

That's why there are atmospheric suits

fallen oracle
#

Can you tell which day Spigot released 1.17?

potent fossil
frank otter
#

I would like to try suborbital tea

frank otter
fallen oracle
#

Requests to a project Simple and I made.

wispy blade
#

google trends prob

potent fossil
#

Maybe one day you can try suborbital tea while launching off in a rocket for your space tourism thonk

frank otter
#

wait

wispy blade
#

become el onmusk

frank otter
#

isn't bezos going to space

potent fossil
#

"space"

frank otter
#

if I asked him to take a cuppa do you think he would

potent fossil
#

i mean he's tryin

unreal quarry
potent fossil
#

lol [x] doubt

fallen oracle
#

These banners are from a project Simple and I made and whenever people were reading the 1.17 Spigot thread, they were getting hits.

frank otter
#

didn't he auction a seat on a rocket

potent fossil
#

yes (or still is idk)

#

but the dude hasnt even made it to orbit yet

#

so hes a lil ahead of himself

#

im sure he will sooner or later

frank otter
#

hmm

#

if I bought that seat and filled it with tea, would it boil if the rocket conveniently broke up at the very top if its flight path

#

so like maybe

#

wait how high is it going

potent fossil
#

lol

frank otter
#

is it going karman line or space space

potent fossil
#

well they plan to enter orbit at least momentarily for that flight

#

so its a ways away

frank otter
#

so it might boil

potent fossil
#

no because the cabin is pressurized

#

otherwise the humans would boil

frank otter
#

if we removed that system

#

wait so

potent fossil
#

yes probably lol

frank otter
#

if I bought the entire rocket and then depressurised it at the top

#

it would boil

potent fossil
#

probably

#

they dont pressurize cargo runs, so

frank otter
#

how much is the seat going for

potent fossil
#

you'd just buy a cargo tea run

#

i guess

frank otter
#

how much is a cargo run

potent fossil
#

cargo runs are like a million per metric ton

frank otter
#

oh

potent fossil
#

on spacex anyway

#

(which is actually cheap)

frank otter
#

let's say I want a litre of tea

#

would that be like 1 mil/1 thousand

#

so

#

about one thousand dollars

potent fossil
#

You would need like 900,000 more people to also want a liter of tea and then each of you pay like $1.35

#

that money is a complete guess

wispy blade
royal kernel
#

lol

heady spear
potent fossil
#

no reverse proxy??????????????????????????????????

frank otter
#

what's

#

what's intellectual sites

remote oxide
#

Anime is temporary

heady spear
#

idk dords set it up

potent fossil
#

dords BAD!

remote oxide
#

but papermc's devs suffering is eternal

heady spear
#

ok but it is up

potent fossil
#

fine

frank otter
remote oxide
#

I feel bad for the devsw

#

they should take a brake

#

Fuck

potent fossil
#

no no no if they take a break they will be eaten alive by ree'ing 12 year olds

mental meadow
#

reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

wispy blade
#

who will then be fed to the goblins

remote oxide
#

12 year olds should learn how to wait

wispy blade
#

bye aurora!

remote oxide
twin lagoon
#

@heady spear y r u back

heady spear
#

shut up michael

twin lagoon
#

wtf go back to work

heady spear
#

I refuse

remote oxide
#

PapEr 1.17 wHeN?

potent fossil
#

.kill Invictus

limber knotBOT
#

throws Invictus to Cthulu and watches them get ripped to shreds.

potent fossil
#

begins eating

wispy blade
#

gimple goblin

remote oxide
#

tHe dEvS aRe sO BaD aT sCrIpTiNg (no offense to the devs this is a joke we should all support them for the hard work they are doing)

zealous knot
#

my cat just fell asleep on my pillow 🥺

worn ember
#

yeet the pillow

potent fossil
#

.kill DED

limber knotBOT
#

stabs DED in the heart a few times with a knife.

potent fossil
#

Sometimes he just goes too far

blazing moss
potent fossil
blazing moss
#

enderman

#

support the gay

#

👍

potent fossil
#

ok

pseudo shadow
#

If I switch my Apex Hosting Jar server file from Paper 1.16.5 to Paper 1.17, will it ruin anything?

mental meadow
#

Yes

#

Because there is no Paper 1.17 jar file

pseudo shadow
#

Well when it comes out ._.

mental meadow
#

Then no^^

pseudo shadow
#

Ye

mental meadow
#

But ALWAYS do backups

potent fossil
#

appreciate the support, but it would be nice to not be called "the" gay, just say LGBT ^^

pseudo shadow
#

Gotcha

mental meadow
#

simple i am the gay

#

enderman supports me

potent fossil
#

oh in that case

#

.taco aurora

#

wtf

#

imagine it responded

brave radish
#

What is that suppose to say?

wispy blade
#

ZCM!

#

hi

potent fossil
#

it's supposed to give a taco

brave radish
#

I've never seen it work; I've only seen you say it, it not work, and you say "wtf"

weak quail
#

how's server performance on 1.17 compared to the last versions of mc?

wispy blade
#

.tryitandsee

limber knotBOT
halcyon spear
#

Can anyone link me or show me a tool to transfer offline to online?

potent fossil
worn ember
#

whats the relation between quantum entanglement compared to last version?

wispy blade
unreal quarry
#

.taco simple

halcyon spear
unreal quarry
#

😦

potent fossil
#

It apparently doesn't exist here

weak quail
halcyon spear
#

Offline playerdata to online

unreal quarry
#

z stole our tacos

worn ember
brave radish
#

Is this still...

#

.tacos

limber knotBOT
#

🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮

void void
#

Do the coders ever get a break? Everytime I look at the vc there in there

potent fossil
#

yea thats korobi tho, different bot

wispy blade
waxen panther
#

there's always someone working on patches but theres a lot of them so they have breaks yeah

brave radish
potent fossil
#

@void void when update time comes around, they usually go 24/7 for the community's benefit

#

they're very dedicated

#

gib them love

tame viper
#

hello

#

???

potent fossil
#

hi

#

???

waxen panther
#

what a name

void void
#

Mini needs to take a break in my opinion

tame viper
#

are a a paper woker

waxen panther
#

this'll be good

potent fossil
#

He'll take one if he needs one, he's ok

potent fossil
worn ember
#

5

mental meadow
tame viper
potent fossil
#

Yes

mental meadow
#

I don't think mini is even there right now

cunning raft
#

@waxen panther are you a paper worker

void void
#

He's there

tame viper
#

less goo

waxen panther
#

like printing

#

😀

mental meadow
#

his stream is running but I'm not sure if hes there physically

worn ember
#

print me 1.17

tame viper
#

yeah me too

void void
#

Lol

potent fossil
#

oh yea, mini in the vc is restreaming people for a while now

#

hes there but not "there"

void void
#

Ohhh I see

golden gust
#

he is there

vernal moth
#

I was streaming myself the whole day

golden gust
#

sometimes he does disappear

potent fossil
#

i mean idk about rn, he could be there rn, but earlier

golden gust
#

Mini smells though

vernal moth
#

I just switched to restreaming

raven palm
#

does anyone know why minecraft 1.17 needs updated java? will it have better performance on client/server or something? sorry if its a dumb question

potent fossil
#

bc mojang said so

#

we do as the Mojang commands

golden gust
#

Because not relying on legacy crap is nice

vernal moth
#

because its the right thing to do and we requested it

golden gust
#

lots of new code features and such come over the years which makes code cleaner and such

potent fossil
#

im just ridiculously happy about the mojmapped source

raven palm
potent fossil
#

ima do more PRs, so prepare urselves

void void
#

I'm so excited for paper 1.17

worn ember
#

meh mapped fields tho sad

earnest nymph
vernal moth
#

go ask me simple, I have been working for this day for over a year

potent fossil
worn ember
#

well they also updated opengl so i'm sure thats a good thing too

potent fossil
#

the switch itself, minimal. but the benefits to development are profound

potent fossil
#

you as a server owner, prob wont notice

#

but its good

worn ember
#

i'll have to check on 1.16 features cuz i honestly have no clue lol

void void
#

At first I thought paper was a anitcheat xD

wispy blade
#

it has some "anticheat" features like fixing dupes

twin lagoon
#

@vernal moth smh ktlint use ktfmt

vernal moth
#

yell at denwav

#

its already bad enough that I need to touch kotlin

void void
#

I used to own a server but I didn't have a job so I couldn't get the much ram for every server so I found a glitch to dupe amour

heady spear
#

ktfmt gang gang

twin lagoon
#
❯ git commit -m "ktfmt"
[main 9369de3] ktfmt
 77 files changed, 6384 insertions(+), 6397 deletions(-)
#

practically rewriting paperweight at that point

worn ember
void void
still nacelle
#

spigot 1.17 without plugin

#

bruh

twin lagoon
#

what about it

#

only thing i see that isn't normal is the 46s startup time

potent fossil
#

michale lets host a mc network on low earth orbit satellites with obs

#

i got $20 and a toothpick, will it be enough

#

i mean aws not obs smfh

#

i need to sleep

twin lagoon
#

i have a raspberry pi zero

twin lagoon
#

wait what

potent fossil
twin lagoon
#

link

potent fossil
twin lagoon
#

the fuck

#

@ashen cliff Bro.

potent fossil
#

this would be the satellite control plane basically, we'd still need a few milly to launch some satellites KEKWHYPER

ashen cliff
#

Bro!

#

YOU PAY!

twin lagoon
#

We don't pay.

#

We abuse AWS $100 trial account.

worn ember
#

just hijack a sat

ashen cliff
#

That's like 4 minutes max bro!

potent fossil
#

4.8 or so minutes on wideband on-demand PepeLa

ashen cliff
#

Bruh.

potent fossil
#

someone open an AWS ticket and ask if ground station is free tier applicable PepeLa

ashen cliff
#

I bought a motherboard, working as expected. GIVE it to a friend so he can put it in a computer for another friend.
Day 1: WORKS.
Day 1.5: I just blew up 2 USB ports so you have to send it back.

#

Even when I try to avoid the whole building a PC for a friend, I get fucked by it.

waxen panther
#

balkanboard

worn ember
#

thats why you dont have friends

ashen cliff
#

Legit. Would be 100% happier if I didn't have to deal with this.

willow cedar
#

Does someone know an active developed bounty plugin for 1.16,1.17,...?

copper summit
#

Are You saying your a plugin dev looking for work?

twin lagoon
#

no?

unborn swallow
#

honestly they should probably just skip 1.17 and go straight to 1.18 when it releases

twin lagoon
#

and how do you want them to do that now 1.17 is out

potent fossil
#

lol

#

they'd have to do all of 1.17 changes ANYWAY

#

so, may as well do it now

twin lagoon
#

hey guys we decided to unrelease 1.17

unborn swallow
#

i mean paper and all the server admins

twin lagoon
#

no because i'd rather update to 1.17 now and have less issues updating to 1.18

#

as 80% of the code is already there

potent fossil
#

i mean, even if paper did that, the amount of work would not decrease in any way

#

they'd have to do everything they're now doing anyway

#
  • more
unborn swallow
#

yeah, it does make sense from a compatibility standpoint

potent fossil
#

it would be a net negative, a fat one too

frank otter
#

wasn't the entire idea of splitting caves and cliffs to make it easier for devs

potent fossil
#

yea mojang devs, not custom server devs KEKWHYPER

vernal moth
#

It's for the benefit of the greater community

#

They weren't happy with their product so instead of shoving shit down our throat like in 1.14, they now taking their time

#

And I applaud them for that

potent fossil
#

of course, it's a good choice

#

but like i said, it was done to give them more time (for good reason), not for us KEKWHYPER

#

i mean, it does indirectly affect us in a positive way tho

worn ember
#

12 hours of node courses done, 12 more to go

wispy blade
#

F

sterile basin
ashen cliff
#

Working as expected.

granite slate
#

what is happening into entwicklungsgerausche?

ashen cliff
#

Hell. Pain. Suffering even.

olive marlin
#

If you want to watch devs suffer and get drunk while updating Paper to 1.17, you are welcome to join us!

granite slate
#

ahhaha

zenith scaffold
#

Hows it lookin ZabCreeGuitar

mental meadow
#

Maybe at around 1/4 now?

potent fossil
#

gonna lose consciousness for 5 hrs now bai

#

uwu @mental meadow

mental meadow
#

Same

#

Nighty@potent fossil ❤️

potent fossil
#

o/

zenith scaffold
icy osprey
#

oh I moved my question

#

lol

#

I removed it thos

#

I don't need support if that answers the question

crimson kayak
#

what's the correct way to set the motd of a server? I used event.setMotd() and it seems to be deprecated or something

icy osprey
#

thanks @wraith trail

#

oh

#

yeh strange

#

I noted the denotation, and didn't read the commits

#

on the downloads on the paper site

#

anyways thanks for the clarification 🙂

vast idol
#

I petition for a rename of PaperWind. That way everyone can ask "PaperWind?"

#

lol

potent fossil
#

wat

vast idol
#

but seriously guys and gals SLEEP

olive marlin
#

What is "SLEEP"?

vast idol
#

ill let you know when i find out as well lol

mental meadow
#

We're swapping out don't worry

potent panther
#

Sentinent
Lapse
Endemic
Entropy
Polarization

worn ember
vast idol
#

Epic games?

paper pagoda
#

Somebody needs to make minidigger take a break

worn ember
#

rookie numbers

vernal moth
#

and I took breaks

worn ember
#

how many patches did you do mini?

#

next update patch counter next to beercam

vernal moth
#

I don't think I did a single patch

#

I changed a few patches with fixes, I did the initial api remap, I did remap all paper patches to mojmap and I worked on paperweight itself

worn ember
#

ah cool, havent had time to tune in cuz i have a node exam on monday

warm anchor
worn ember
young rose
rustic valve
#

I feel so patched. Should I see a medic?

void void
#

amdlij IDEA wen

small zephyr
#

I am a student that mostly knows well the basics of C++ and I am really interested in learning java to code Minecraft plugins. In C++ before starting a function I put the brackets like this:
{
code
}
but why is it better to do it like this in java?
main () {
}

void void
#

ok

small zephyr
void void
#

It isnt better, just a principle

sage herald
#

There is like a version filter to see all the 1.17 plugins in spigotmc.org*?

dusk marten
small zephyr
spark moth
#

not really

paper pagoda
#

and following them helps people read your code

#

which helps them help you

spark moth
#

some people prefer {
}
over
{

}
but the compiler will generate the same code

dusk marten
#

no, hell there is a silent war going on between the two usergroups

void void
small zephyr
void void
#

Oh u edited the message

small zephyr
#

Thanks :p

paper pagoda
#

just do whatever the common standard is and forget it tbh lol

#

autoformatters will handle the rest

dusk marten
#

Though void method() {
users have more or less won the war here in java

small zephyr
#

:(

#

xD

dusk marten
#

Also, the same goes for C++ (not about the war, C++ has a bit bigger strongholds there)

paper pagoda
#

as long as you know spaces >>>>> tabs

#

and python is god

small zephyr
#

????

#

noooooooooooooo

tropic flame
#

(lmao i write my C# code with the same conventions as Java but it's because I don't really care)

paper pagoda
#

microsoft java

tropic flame
dusk marten
#

Though the biggest stronghold of bracket on newline is in C#

golden gust
#

I love it

tropic flame
#

your text editor should translate tabs to 4 spaces

#

otherwise bad

#

expel it

small zephyr
#

let me just send you a simple program that shows how I write code, everything needs to be sexy 😂

tropic flame
#

expunge it

golden gust
#

We got wider screens, so not the big real limit on workspace is now the height

#

and then you've got c# which is like "FUCK YOUR V SPACE!"

paper pagoda
#

linux kernel convention is 8 space tabs

tropic flame
#

meanwhile I'm rocking a 4:3 monitor

#

get yo widescreen outta here holyFuck

golden gust
#

CRT?!

tropic flame
#

jk

tropic flame
#

but I've used a CRT monitor until 2015

#

it was fun

#

the hard glass meant i could put a sheet of paper over it and outline stuff i wanted to draw

sturdy island
#

So if I have 1.17 installed how can I upgrade to 1.18 the world must be buggy because it goes to Y-64

golden gust
#

The trick is to leave your speakers near the monitor and wonder why it's acting all wonky

small zephyr
#

They need to be aligned perfectly, with tabs not with spaces :(.

tropic flame
#

with an LCD screen it's a bit more scary, i don't wanna put holes in it

small zephyr
#

it triggers me sm

golden gust
#

you can't align stuff with tabs

small zephyr
#

how so?

sturdy island
spark moth
dusk marten
#

Mojang will come up with a solution in time

golden gust
#

Well, somebodies rug needs shitting on

dusk marten
#

If not, you will get chunk errors, but those are your friend

golden gust
#

tabs work as variable width and the behavior varies between editors, OSes, etc

small zephyr
#

I know the basics of c++, is java similar?

golden gust
#

java is a managed language, c++ is not

dusk marten
#

to some degree, yes

golden gust
#

OOP is OOP, etc

small zephyr
#

what differences should I need to watch out for

golden gust
#

But, the management is the biggest aspect of it all

small zephyr
#

any tips as well?

dusk marten
#

But you will have not things like pointers and structs

spark moth
golden gust
#

stuff is GC'd too

#

So, no manually freeing memory (outside of native stuff)

worn ember
#

just go read a tutorial of stuff and you'll see for yourself lol

dusk marten
#

Also you cannot put multiple classes that can be seen from everywhere in a single file

small zephyr
#

prefer to ask experienced people directly lmao

dusk marten
#

And Java is a lot less of a pain when it comes to build tools and libraries

tropic flame
small zephyr
#

java sounds a lot of typing haha

tropic flame
#

MainUniversalExecutionLoadingManagementAutomationSystemClassEnum

spark moth
#

*MainUniversalExecutionLoadingManagementAutomationSystemClassEnumFactory

dusk marten
#

The jrt is minimal in such cases

tropic flame
spark moth
#
MainUniversalExecutionLoadingManagementAutomationSystemClassEnum mainUniversalExecutionLoadingManagementAutomationSystemClassEnum = MainUniversalExecutionLoadingManagementAutomationSystemClassEnum.builder().create();```
tropic flame
#

this is what you should watch out for

dusk marten
#

How was that repo called again?

tropic flame
#

if your code comes to look like this, it is immediately bad

golden gust
#

fizz buzz?

tropic flame
#

nuke it

dusk marten
#

Yes, that one

golden gust
#

.fizzbuzz

#

.fizz

#

thought we had a thingy for it

small zephyr
#

just read about classes always starting with capital letters and methods starting with lower letters, what on earth are these conventions and why do they exist haha

dusk marten
#

they only make sense

olive marlin
#

Makes it easier to differentiate what is what?

dusk marten
#

Also: actual english names, no hungarian notation

golden gust
#

you're in the middle of some code block

olive marlin
#

I think most languages go with that convention.

golden gust
#

You see myWhatever.doStuff()

dusk marten
#

If you use hungarian notation anywhere, I'll do the french

golden gust
#

is myWhatever a class or a var?

spark moth
#

HauptUniversalAusführungLadungsVerwaltungsAutomatisiertesSystemKlasseAufzählungFabrikInjektor

small zephyr
#

more like ΓενικηΜεταβλητηΤυπουΑκεραιου

#

:O

spark moth
#

also, classnames can't start with a number

digital tide
# golden gust stuff is GC'd too

Is GC a good thing or a bad thing? I'd think it's a bad thing because you have no control when it'll run. It can cause a lag spike at any moment.

golden gust
#

pros and cons as with all of it

tropic flame
#

haha System.gc() go brrrrrr /s

golden gust
#

.gc

limber knotBOT
golden gust
#

being a GC'd language does have some gains around memory allocation, but that's more managed memory in general rather than GC, just

olive marlin
golden gust
#

It also means that you don't need to worry about tracking where to "free" objects, you just make them no longer ref'd and you're done, GC will get to it

glacial wren
golden gust
#

as for how GC works, it depends, there are varying mechanisms for GC, e.g. ZGC works amazingly for stuff which is threaded properly to minimize global GC hit

tropic flame
#

(some cases require you to call a method like close() or release() though)

golden gust
#

depends on the thing you're interfacing with

#

some things will deal with closing when GC'd, but, if you're relying on that, ew

tropic flame
#

I think InputStreams require you to do that? i can't remember

olive marlin
#

Always clean up after yourself kids!

golden gust
#

depends on the impl, once again, but, generally a good idea to

#

calling close generally calls flush

tropic flame
#

yes

olive marlin
#

It's just like with plugins - I don't need to clean up after myself in onDisable because I expect the server to be killed and clean it all up, but I do it anyways.

worn ember
twin lagoon
#

that's a fucking speedrun PR cat

tropic flame
digital tide
limber knotBOT
#

that question doesn't make much sense

#

you could design Minecraft in a way that it doesn't have to deal with GC as much as it does right now even in Java

golden gust
#

GC adds some overheads but GC is not the real issue

olive marlin
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Given that you don't do extra work for cleanup and have hard defined boundaries of existence of variables, it's a bit better. but it all depends on how you do your GC - as phoenix said, it's not all. I can write Rust code which will be a lot worse than Java code when it comes to GC.

golden gust
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The biggest issue is how much shit MC allocates

limber knotBOT
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also rust will obviously have other performance downsides compared to less safe languages like C/C++

golden gust
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Like, values are often measured in the range of 100s of Mbps

olive marlin
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In general issues with GC is too much allocation or too much small objects it needs to go through - it sadly doesn't scale after some point.

limber knotBOT
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it all depends on the code you write ¯_(ツ)_/¯

golden gust
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bearing in mind that getting OS from the memory is slow vs modifying memory you already have allocated

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getting memory from the OS*

digital tide
limber knotBOT
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that would defeat one of the core reasons to use rust

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there is no place where you should ever do that

digital tide
night mason
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Did they finish coding yet?

limber knotBOT
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I feel like as soon as you put it into code that other people will depend on without knowing the consequences it will become a risk but ¯_(ツ)_/¯

cosmic nova
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uwu

olive marlin
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You shouldn't use unsafe, unless you actually do need it. Which 99.9% of the time, you don't.

limber knotBOT
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interesting, people are writing jvm implementations in rusk 👀

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*rust

warm anchor
olive marlin
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A lot of STD lib has to be unsafe, because things it interacts with etc. You only need it for interacting with code written in other languages and similar.

vague solar
twin lagoon
olive marlin
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You can do "smart" things there, but you don't gain much. You need to have a very specific setup to see where for example doing a HEARTBLEED allocations would improve your performance significantly.

true canyon
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With the new mobile update where the hell are recent mentions

cunning raft
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search

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swipe to left

true canyon
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The fuck

olive marlin
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I couldn't find it either and had to search mentions:Prof_Bloodstone

true canyon
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Thanks Jroy but what the hell is this

thorny totem
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Blame discord

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some people hated that change >.>

olive marlin
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Where TF you see mentions?

ashen cliff
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Who want's to see @ everyone 50 times on 1 page?

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So we just MOVED IT.

olive marlin
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They added a dumb Stage Discovery button.