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#general
wispy blade
waxen panther
lmfao
writing small examples on your phone isnt difficult
@cunning raft hey bro!
vernal moth
Clip is cool
Spigot forum be cursed tho
The guy which you just took a screenshot of?
limber knotBOT
waxen panther
😳 
left swift
Brocc is omegapoggers
swift root
Brocc is omegapoggers
you're safe... for now 👀
worn ember
thank you intellij, very cool
worn ember
wispy blade
just windows things
worn ember
playing microsoft games, yikes
worn ember
i suppose
wispy blade
wtf is twitter doing
worn ember
pretty sure intellij has a memory leak lol
potent fossil
what is it doing, it has 4 sub processes
worn ember
i only have 1 project open
waxen panther
open the sub processes
potent fossil
are you running it multiple times
twin lagoon
@static badge
wispy blade
NL twitter is cursed
worn ember
¯_(ツ)_/¯
potent fossil
windows moment
worn ember
its also decompiling classes i have src for so i think it just shit the bed
left swift
SAD!
worn ember
manamamanana
left swift
Ded
wispy blade
wispy blade
WHY NFT
left swift
Wtf is a nft
left swift
Crypto has gone too far
wispy blade
NFT = a certificate saying you own something
left swift
All I get on YouTube mobile ads is that stupid crypto wallet app
wispy blade
but you don't own it lol
worn ember
potent fossil
it'll just get reuploaded six million times, whoever is gonna buy that nft is so god damn stupid
but props to the OP
potent fossil
hello llama
potent fossil
that's only a Levenshtein distance of 5
wispy blade
lol
unkempt drift
Making a new paper fork called…. Bukkit. Hope there’s no confusion.
worn ember
Should name it Bukit to make it less confusing
unkempt drift
BukkitSpigot
left swift
PaperBukkit
worn ember
No.
worn ember
I miss spout
left swift
Spout doesnt miss us
potent fossil
Spout was so cool back in the day
worn ember
left swift
Revive spout ded call it SpoutX
worn ember
gotcha
magic river
Spout is called Sponge these days 😛
untold meadow
i remember getting so excited about a spout mod that added coloured glass back in the day
worn ember
there used to be a spout plugin that let you play music ingame
waxen panther
zzzCat
cunning raft
yeah they moved it
wispy blade
that feeling when you config something right for the first time without looking up guides
worn ember
couldnt be me
only took me like 4 hours but i think rtp is fully operational again 
well almost
wispy blade
nice
lean kiln
thats intellij
formal turret
er, you're right my hate is misdirected
wispy blade
use eclipse then /s
worn ember
use maven /s
worn ember
no u
rancid latch
use netbeans
merry talon
the most popular game server software in the world is developed using netbeans
it has to be good
cunning raft
pretty sure nobody on the paper team uses netbeans
worn ember
gottem
cunning raft
😉
merry talon
i said most popular not best
topaz mortar
Spout is called Sponge these days 😛
No, it's like saying: A Porsche Taycan is called Toyota Jaris these days.
merry talon
cunning raft
i said most popular not best
i know what you said
last i knew paper had a 9k server lead?
magic river
The 1.8 servers skew it toward spigot I think still
But for 1.16 paper has a big lead
unkempt drift
How many people who actively contribute to spigot use netbeans, do you think? I’d hope it was just the man himself, but maybe not
cunning raft
maybe the hardcore spigot or diers
unkempt drift
I’d like to meet some of those people, cause I find it hard to believe they exist
Like, what is their reasoning? Paper does too much?
topaz mortar
I would say not even choco used it.
worn ember
choco uses eclipse
formal turret
updating intellij fixed it, shocking
rancid latch
How many people who actively contribute to spigot use netbeans, do you think? I’...
people unironically use netbeans???
peak ginkgo
Maven is awesome
crystal compass
is https://minecraft.net broken for you guys too lol
potent fossil
Nope.
fallen oracle
Broken how?
crystal compass
https://gyazo.com/1489fe59e9e0456c1a706648ca0e4113 in incognito 👀
fallen oracle
Are you on a proxy / VPN?
crystal compass
nope haha
unkempt drift
banned from MC clearly 🙂
potent fossil
Works fine for me.
fallen oracle
And discord rendered it too
potent fossil
Try a different browser.
crystal compass
I swear to god if i open microsoft edge to solve another problem
Nope still same issue haha.
potent fossil
If it still did it, then Machine's message about being banned might be accurate.
unkempt drift
ah yeah, thats gotta be it. microsoft requiring edge to go to minecraft.net
crystal compass
Kind of weird, I just went to change my skin, login page was blank but still loaded the site, then refresh, and every time since then was access denied. Lol
fallen oracle
What if you turn on a VPN
crystal compass
👀
fallen oracle
That'll tell you if you are IP blocked or not
crystal compass
ill connect to my phone hotspot
potent fossil
Well, Mojang does have VPN blockers but not sure if they apply it on their website
fallen oracle
Or just turn off wifi and look at if on your phone
unkempt drift
I told you not to send feet pics to their offices...
fallen oracle
I think they dialed back their VPN blockers over the past year because I used to be blocked on some of mine and they aren't anymore.
unkempt drift
what did you do Glare to get banned?
fallen oracle
They didn't like the skin you uploaded.
warm anchor
glare shared steve feet pic clearly
unkempt drift
I certainly hope their skin filter thing isn't the same one as discord's image filter
potent fossil
Ok you were probably rate limited then, for whatever reason
unkempt drift
yeah, I used my clout over at mojang to clear you
potent fossil
You made a lot of requests too quickly, so it blocked you temporarily
fallen oracle
Should've just used Crafthead. Then you don't have to worry about rate limiting.
fallen oracle
Oh idk
crystal compass
fuckin awkward bud
unkempt drift
gif skins when?
limpid comet
Hallo
warm anchor
Hi bluely. Bye bluely 
warm anchor
cosmic raft
hi
limpid comet
kashike 
cosmic raft
kashike <:pleadboy:841774407516160081>
limpid comet
wjat
vestal jasper
ur a flard
unreal quarry
cosmic raft
See, Billy gets it!
whole prawn
formal turret
A PDF? Just for me? So kind
brave halo
What do ya'll recommend for a chat plugin
woven otter
Carbon i think. I think it's a chat plugin idk
vestal jasper
Hi carbon dev here
Yes it's a chat plugin, no it's not ready for use yet
@woven otter I purged mentions of the CI and v1 from existence and i'm working on a v2 rewrite
There's no way to download and v2 won't have CI until i'm confident that it's ready for use
woven otter
@vestal jasper 
vestal jasper
It's for the better, take a look at v2's codebase and you'll want to forget v1 even exists
It's better in every way and escapes a lot of the pitfalls I had with v1
vernal moth
And it might even use a MiniMessage version that isn't broken 😂
wispy blade
wait, minimessage can be not broken HOW
vernal moth
Did you see how many fixes landed yesterday?!
wispy blade
nop i was just memeing :)
vernal moth
And if DenWav can teach me how to do grammars properly, escaping and angle brackets and shit might actually work as expected too
vestal jasper
Btw appreciate the work did recently regarding it mini
magic river
Parsers are hard
vestal jasper
seeing mm progress and bug fixes is really nice, partially because it's the foundation of my plugin and the main thing the admin will be working with the entire time lmao
wispy blade
just contribute lol
vernal moth
Parsers are hard
I believe it's actually the Lexer here, my parser is manually written but seems to actually work kinda ok
vestal jasper
just contribute lol
not as simple as that
vernal moth
The bugs josh reported are deeply routed, so that even I can't easily fix them
vestal jasper
I can't contribute to Moonshine, Guice, MiniMessage, Adventure, JDBI, and every single other OSS project that mine relies on, while I also work on my own project.
magic river
lexer makes tokens, parser turns tokens in to AST or actions or whatever
Lots of tools just combine the lexer and parser
vestal jasper
Also, even if I do contribute, I still rely on Mini actually merging those PRs, which is what he did yesterday.
next frost
just write the lexer by hand too :p
vestal jasper
also this is kinda my hobby / side project lol I still have to work and do other things, free time is limited
magic river
vernal moth
<yellow>Test
Lexer would create Tag start, name, tag end, string, but then it becomes hard to handle \<yellow>Test (should be all string) and <3 completely fails because it's a rag start, name with invalid char, and no close, my Lexer can't backtrack or smth
next frost
but that should be part of the parser
vernal moth
I think missing backtracking is my only issues that would solve everything
next frost
the lexer just divides the token stream
wraith oracle
backtracking is the fall of search algorithms
next frost
the parser needs to decide which grammar rule comes next
vernal moth
Sadly my parser doesn't operate on a grammar ^^
wraith oracle
minor badge
this just in: josh singlehandedly maintains Guice
wispy blade
this just in: i didnt sleep well
next frost
huh
wraith oracle
this just in: josh singlehandedly maintains Guice
why would you maintain Guice when Dagger exists
minor badge
because we know Guice
next frost
vestal jasper
It's easier to delegate guice to the friends I have that know it than try to learn dagger on my own and try to implement it into my project tbqh
I'll take as much help with my project as I can lol
magic river
Eww LL parsers 😛
minor badge
Guice works well enough not to learn how to use Dagger anyways
next frost
yeah they're somewhat not-that-difficult to implement imo
wraith oracle
yeah, except when you start debugging your application and your stack frame is full of shit Guice generates
minor badge
just ignore that lol
if you use sentry monitoring, it even hides Guice shit by default
wraith oracle
I understand though, it's not like Guice is going to stop being maintained anytime soon anyways
Still, it's rather sad to see Dagger never took the upper-hand when it comes to DI frameworks
magic river
Isn't dagger the go to for android?
wraith oracle
yeah but the industry is still sticking to Guice
at least for the companies I've worked for, anyways
magic river
Sure, no reason to switch it out on an existing project
minor badge
yeah Guice and Spring are the standard frameworks for injecting shit
minor badge
just do java configurations for all the beans 
wraith oracle
legacy projects
magic river
It's probably been 5 years since guice for new projects made sense though
Unless you need the ecosystem
minor badge
I use Guice for new projects fairly often when I can't use Spring
unkempt drift
@vernal moth yeah, gotta convert all of hangar to xml config
magic river
I think the xml config is faster 😛
Otherwise it has to scan the classpath for annotations
unkempt drift
Doesn’t it do that once? At the start?
magic river
Sure
unkempt drift
Who cares how fast that is
vernal moth
Startup performance is important for some deployments
minor badge
tbf if you need startup speed, you use quarkus 
vernal moth
Spring is notorisly slow to start
magic river
Less than like 30 seconds it only matters for cloud and serverless stuff but longer than that and I need to mess with failover stuff
Basically I need to be down for a short enough time that someone getting an error and hitting refresh is likely to get a working page the second time, otherwise I need to set up the whole high availability infrastructure
Although we should probably do that anyway 😛
We kind of do but not for doing upgrades
vernal moth
My Sprint stuff at work takes 25 seconds on avg, I tested that once
And those are big fat spring boot apps with scanning
ancient bolt
It's probably been 5 years since guice for new projects made sense though
What should you use instead?
vernal moth
But that's really slow if you compare to light stuff like quarkus, which obviously also does native AOT and stuff
ancient bolt
Guice works fine for my needs
magic river
dagger
ancient bolt
Hmm, I've read about dagger but never saw the need to dig deeper
magic river
Can you really call spring boot fat compared to standard spring? 😛
vernal moth
Do ppl actually do spring without boot?
minor badge
yep
ancient bolt
I use it for my job framework at work and it works great tho
vernal moth
Modern stuff that has no legacy attachment?
ancient bolt
Yeah when I worked for SWA they were building a giant a brand-new non-boot spring app
vernal moth
Uff
ancient bolt
It was terrible
And would have been impossible to really work on without intellij ultimate lol
The super complex giant multiple xml files declaring everything, with xml files pointing to other xml files
Was horrible
vernal moth
Intellijs spring tooling is amazing
waxen panther
Guice 💞
meager tusk
Guice 🛌
wispy blade
Programming 🛌
wispy blade
o/ krusic
ashen cliff
I have acquired a very epic HDD.
ashen cliff
The brand is not important. The fact it has 35k hours of runtime and still working is.
worn ember
worn ember
@ashen cliff why would you buy those tho cx
ashen cliff
Didn't pay a single € for the whole batch. 
worn ember
Fair
wispy blade
good deal then i guess
ashen cliff
Only checked 8 drives for now... Like 40 left to go.
wispy blade
sheesh
ashen cliff
At least I got hotswap SATA working.
Tho, someone took all of my spare SATA cables... So I can only do 4 drives at the time instead of 12.
unreal quarry
every drive is hotswappable, if you're fast enough 
ashen cliff
So just like PCIe.
I have no idea why, but the Dell abomination board supports PCIe hotswap.
quick pasture
hi
untold copper
Only checked 8 drives for now... Like 40 left to go.
good luck bro
interesting
let me check my other 10 year old HDD
sec
@ashen cliff
pathetic .
2895.3 days
7.9 years
ashen cliff
<@!219443401974611970>
pathetic .
I think this is the actual oldest I got: https://posili.me/i/2021-05-22_11-26-56.png
untold copper
I still win 
magic river
What tool is that?
untold copper
CrystalDiskInfo
magic river
...what is there a shizuku edition?
untold copper
yeah, idk what it is tho
magic river
wispy blade
i wonder how bad my pc's hdd is
magic river
You can tell I never turn my computer off 😛
minor badge
good morning amaranth 
minor badge
good night amaranth 
magic river
Fell asleep watching a Money Heist last night and then couldn't get back to sleep
untold copper
@magic river dare you to beat this :P
frank otter
what is that
untold copper
uptime of my hdd
limber knotBOT
linux should have them, somewhere
olive marlin
I know smartctl prints it for sure.
upbeat falconBOT
Requested by onetesseract#9363 - smartctl Linux disk uptime - result 1 of 10
frank otter
huh I only have 10404 hours
minor badge
my server nvmes are on 5536h @ 13 cycles and the HDD is 1940h @ 1 cycle
my own machine is only up to 7.7kh though surprisingly
woven otter
sell ur gpu
worn ember
lol
ashen cliff
It just has 5 errors.
olive marlin
.commands
limber knotBOT
untold copper
@magic river
downloaded shizuku edition
worn ember
weeb
untold copper
nou
twin lagoon
Also this: https://posili.me/i/2021-05-22_11-57-48.png
BRO!
novel horizon
I don't have such info and on my pc I have quite new drives, but at least I have 🤷♂️
wraith oracle
395 days, damn
ashen cliff
novel horizon
nice ❤️
ashen cliff
The best part is, that if I restart it, they will instantly move it to EPYC.
novel horizon
really? why 😄
I was doing something last year and I didn't knew how to fix it (I got it in the end) but someone said to me "have you tried restarting it?" ^^
ashen cliff
It's a VM. And they deprecated the machines long ago. This VM is like 2 gens behind.
novel horizon
oh
worn ember
It's a VM. And they deprecated the machines long ago. This VM is like 2 gens beh...
you really love messing with people dont you
ashen cliff
Not my fault.
worn ember
twin lagoon
good
left swift
yo
royal kernel
yo
worn ember
yo
slow kraken
Is there a good post somewhere about why paper is going to force Java 16 for 1.17?
worn ember
cuz otherwise you wont be able to play
minor badge
the warning also links to a blog post about it
wide chasm
Yes, the client will then also start using Java 16
novel horizon
However client will include the java in their own directory, so you don't need to install new java afaik
topaz mortar
With that change it fixes the Let's encrypt Open SSL bug on jre8
slow kraken
I see, I hadn't heard that. Thanks
topaz mortar
where is your bigSp00n?
waxen panther
left swift
vernal moth
Paper was planning to force java 11 but thankfully we could convince Mojang to do the jump too
Small steps suck
Go big or go home
I don't care for custom emotes
Come back when pepe is part of Unicode
Also, crowns represent monarchies, one of the worst part of history
Not sure I wanna celebrate that
vernal moth
Hitler exploited a flaw in our constitution we then fixed
Meanwhile Brits just pay the queen tax payer money because ???
I am not your history teacher
left swift
This kid is still around wow
vernal moth
Isn't that mandatory everywhere? At least in Europe
left swift
Developing a 2nd oskar
vernal moth
It's very important to teach hitler's uprising because only if you can learn how it happened you know how to prevent it from happening again
Go back to school then
left swift
They probably havent even gotten to that grade where they teach it mini
vernal moth
Most of the point it's taught in the advanced classes when ppl are actually kinda grown up
Same
topaz mortar
Müsli 😄
vernal moth
Strawberry, banana, raspberry, Choco, cereal and yogurt
Paper would thrive if spigot would give up
Because we would no longer be held back
Spigots decision to never do breaking changes is the root of all evil in the Bukkit community
Thats what holding the whole community back
topaz mortar
Good thing that we will not be bound to mdecisions5_ in future
golden gust
Spigot LITERALLY disabled custom vanilla dimensions and custom biomes because god forbid he has to make breaking changes to the API to move forward
native wolf
Spigot also does some stupid decisions overall
vernal moth
Last I checked, spigot had a bus factor of 1
native wolf
Like "we don't need async chunks because ssds"
left swift
Road trip
golden gust
breaking changes for the sake of breaking changes is bad
But, we've gone years as a community refusing to break API
That means that now, when you break API, you've got more years of work that you're going to break because you refused to break it for so long
vernal moth
Meanwhile sponge is removing all get and set prefixes in api 8 😂
Breaking literally every single plugin
native wolf
breaking changes for the sake of breaking changes is bad
But in this case it's not for the sake of breaking, it's for the sake of better server
topaz mortar
- World Generator API
- Biome API
- Full support for ChatComponents everywhere (no legacy conversion that fucks up the whole)
- Utilize the capability of off main thread file IO
- Migration to Mojang Mapping at runtime
5.1 introduces a more stable and easier maintainable API implementation
5.2 Allows the people using NMS to have a better understanding of the code, no need to guess the fields. From the standpoint of md_5 NMS
isn't API so it isn't a reason to call it "but plugins will break"
left swift
Yikes
golden gust
and, then finally, they're forced to make breaking changes which means that you get stupid legacy crap like the bytecode rewriting, without any migration path, it's just "do it now"
whereas if you do it properly, you have the old crap and the new crap sitting side by side where viable, and give people a version or two to migrate over
vernal moth
I think we can be good stewards of the Bukkit api, carefully considering what to deprecate and replace and what to break
Cause you know, we are actually a team, where every option matters, and where I consider contributors part of our team
golden gust
wait, does that mean I gotta stop telling mini to fuck off?
topaz mortar
We had 4 versions of new MC that were compatible with pre 1.13 plugins. Isn't that enough time?
Nope, Hey0's mod
golden gust
Bukkit wanted to do some of the things we want to do
native wolf
hMod is the beginning
golden gust
Just, they died before they could, and shamefully spigot took over
Because their site is better than spigots
topaz mortar
https://github.com/traitor/Minecraft-Server-Mod
@void void
A server mod that is 10 years outdated.
novel horizon
Bukkit is better in downloading for me most of the time
golden gust
"Game version"
left swift
What software is bukkits site
novel horizon
and also here
vernal moth
Hangar wen
golden gust
bukkit uses some curseforge crap afaik
native wolf
Bukkit is on CurseForge
waxen panther
Hangar wen
vernal moth
It's literally a different frontend for curseforge
topaz mortar
Hangar when?
native wolf
Hangar wen
When tho?
golden gust
Like, bukkits site does a lot of stuff better because it was actually designed to deal with this stuff
waxen panther
gm
golden gust
whereas spigots just a xen resource manager thing which is kinda dumb
left swift
It feels a lot more cleaner than spigot anyways
worn ember
my weather app hasnt worked since 3 years ago lol
left swift
worn ember
left swift
Right at the top too so if u misclick ur taking a ride to the app store
worn ember
my phone would die if that happens xD
it already crashes opening snapchat half the time
waxen panther
snap me? 😊
left swift
Snap you in half
worn ember
i'll thanos snap you
left swift
Kit kat
untold copper
epic
native wolf
You must have like a 1000 tabs open or something
left swift
Turn off the sun then
untold copper
interestingly, chrome takes way more cpu with 1/4th the amount of tabs
left swift
Is that interestingly
untold copper
not really
native wolf
Isn't Chrome supposed to be the RAM eater
left swift
It's a crayon eater
solemn trench
I have a superflat world on my server and It wont spawn hostile mobs can someone help
i changed it with/difficulty hard
i want to be able to spawn them with spawners and /summon but not natural
native wolf
i want to be able to spawn them with spawners and /summon but not natural
/gamerule doMobSpawning false
solemn trench
thing is hostile mobs wont spawn at all
native wolf
Then you need plugins
solemn trench
what plugins
left swift
Its probably a plugin stopping their spawning
solemn trench
Its probably a plugin stopping their spawning
but it spawns in my second world
left swift
Hi bwocc 
waxen panther
heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy mana
left swift
waxen panther
left swift
Do I get free malware
waxen panther
then close eclipse to test?
left swift
No free malware why live
worn ember
thats deep nomana
waxen panther
Who
left swift
Who
worn ember
i really cant tell if this guy is trolling all the time or not
wraith trail
if it is a troll they're at least putting effort into it
been here for what seems like 2 days all the way through
left swift
They're all just oskar to me
olive garden
who likes you?
left swift
Hi sulu
warm anchor
Oskar doenst like people same age as him
golden gust
general gist is that we're not hear to teach you and you need to show an actual inclination towards learning and ideally should get in touch with the basics first
"can I connect the GUI class with the main class" makes little sense in what you're asking
classes all represent something, ideally state
worn ember
oskar was unbanned
weak
golden gust
how they interact with one another is up to whatever design pattern you follow, but, I mean, the sole intent of programming is for stuff to interact with one another
and that is literally your issue.
I literally explained it
worn ember
cat, honestly, dont bother
golden gust
Your issue is that you just wanna traipse along without thinking
Welcome to programming, where 90% of what we do is thinking and 10% is shitting out code
topaz mortar
You want to run before being able to walk.
left swift
worn ember
more like asking questions just for the sake of asking questions
woven otter
More like 10% thinking and 10% shitting out code and 80% of fixing bugs because of the shit code 
golden gust
just you duck, just you
woven otter
Wow ok
left swift
Duck code
golden gust
duck, there is a reason why we replaced you with rubber
left swift
Woo ooh
golden gust
it's so that we can have something to speak to without having to listen to the shit you come out with
bah dum tss
woven otter
Youre right if a real duck were there your nose would've been bitten and there would be shit on your table
left swift
Woo ooh
golden gust
Oh, I just noticed my status disappeared, I'd literally just copied brocs
left swift
Life is like a hurricane here in duckberg
woven otter
worn ember
Life is like ur mom nomana, full of open opportunities
golden gust
“Life is an endless series of trainwrecks with only brief, commercial-like breaks of happiness.”
woven otter
Thanks for the depression
olive garden
life is an illusion
left swift
My mom has been closed since 1998 ded
worn ember
damn son
olive garden
thanks for sharing
olive marlin
Thanks Tebex!
pale hinge
hi, how can i setup my server to be connected by a specific client i will make only? i dont want people to connect my server by using other clients
ashen cliff
Simple. Make it so.
Since you are going to make a client, make your own custom protocol.
pale hinge
how to handle it server side and validate it? do i need to create a plugin for it?
golden gust
- it's annoying as fuck because it means now we're often fighting against some idiots on another discord
- stuff like that is easily bypassable, but, theres always crap like the client brand, but, easy to bypass, etc
ashen cliff
Use the [Redacted]Craft approach and make the user run a kernel level application to validate the client.
pale hinge
thank you so much! ❤️ 🙏
severe pond
i am back
limpid comet
never trust the client
olive garden
yeah, ban all clients!
tropic flame
never trust the client
but don't they say the client is always right? /s
left swift
Unless brocc is the client then hes always right
waxen panther
aw 
pulsar wigeon
woven otter
That is scientifically accurate graph
olive garden
would the creator be you?
left swift
I cant read graphs I was in an accident when i was young
woven otter
No ur just dum
granite slate
Guys, quick question, Is there a problem if I charge a laptop that normally uses 19.5V / 2.31A with a power bank that deliver an output of 20V / 3.25A?
novel horizon
Yes
golden gust
depends
golden gust
that voltage is close enough to probably not matter
granite slate
ahahhaha
left swift
.try
limber knotBOT
novel horizon
that A is quite different tho
golden gust
voltage tolerances are generally -/+ 10%
novel horizon
may not do anything, just dont leave it there when you try it first time ^^
should be mostly fine tho anyway, never bad idea though to be careful
granite slate
Does it exists a powerbank that adjusts the output?
golden gust
yes
novel horizon
kinda, yeah
granite slate
Mhh, interesting.
novel horizon
if device supports it then it can easily change outputs for that
ashen cliff
voltage tolerances are generally -/+ 10%
5% actually.
novel horizon
higher voltage is kinda not good, ampere is okayish most of the time, it's a bit higher, should be fine, as i said tho just be careful ^^
golden gust
different industry I guess 😄
granite slate
if device supports it then it can easily change outputs for that
Does the function have a specific name that I can use to search through the specs?
novel horizon
idk
golden gust
I used to work on stuff where if you licked it to test if it was charged or not you'd be across the room
I mean, "adjustable"?
ashen cliff
Daily reminder to not use discharge resistors.
golden gust
that's a feature many powerbanks which have it make centre page stuff
19.5 > 20v is probs fine
the output of the adaptor is very unlikely to be perfect
autumn glen
w h a t
granite slate
Why does on amazon q&a all the people says that if you have a type-c you can use it for power the laptop?
ashen cliff
Type C is just the connector standard.
granite slate
a type-c port obv
golden gust
type-c generally implies that with a decent power bank that it has power developery
delivery
which is basically a spec for varying voltages, etc
ashen cliff
That's why USB PD exists.
granite slate
So when I see on a powerbank that it has on the specs something like PD 3.0 it is fine.
Right?
ashen cliff
Yes.
granite slate
You guys, helped me a lot. Thanks ❤️
golden gust
scarlet igloo
hey guys how can ı change distance official papermc antixray?
olive garden
have you read the rules?
scarlet igloo
oh, sorry for my name
scarlet igloo
okey thanks
wraith trail
you can use update-radius, but the max is 2 as or else it'd cause issues, but yeah ^^
scarlet igloo
thanksss
golden gust
Proxi, I hate to see you go, but I love to see you walk away
waxen panther
wtf
woven otter
Brocc should walk away too
waxen panther
you'd like that wouldnt you x
woven otter
Ye please do
left swift
Duck should get on grill
worn ember
who?
left swift
Randomly creeping on people
honest elbow
is anyone willing to release paper minecraft multiplayer am still waiting for it
golden gust
wat
formal turret
golden gust
that thing has literally nothing to do with us
golden gust
sounds like a personal problem
wraith trail
they probably think this is for the paper minecraft flash game
true canyon
Paper has been released for a while! 🙂 https://papermc.io/downloads
void void
m
minor badge
@true canyon hello!! 
true canyon
Hai 😍
twin lagoon
what are you talking about
honest elbow
am looking for paper minecraft multiplayer
twin lagoon
what is paper minecraft
honest elbow
and it month 3
haughty bear
this isnt paper minecraft
honest elbow
month 2
golden gust
I think you're in the wrong place
wraith trail
this isn't the flash game
honest elbow
huh
haughty bear
its some scratch game isnt it
wraith trail
twin lagoon
lol
honest elbow
i rlly play on scratch
haughty bear
yeah that
twin lagoon
there's no way in hell you're getting multiplayer in a scratch game
true canyon
Oh scratch, how I miss you
haughty bear
there's no way in hell you're getting multiplayer in a scratch game
technically possible
twin lagoon
how
haughty bear
cloud variables
twin lagoon
haughty bear
but dont ask me i havent used it in a long time
twin lagoon
ur an option in the ubuntu installer
waxen panther
im an option in the ubuntu installer
twin lagoon
waxen panther
minor badge
why dont you just use a new drive
waxen panther
u pay for them michael ?
twin lagoon
i'm not a weeb
wispy blade
why
just install grub with os prober on hdd, change boot order
well yeah that's to be expected
but it's the easiest solution
golden gust
then check the OS boot order back to the SSD?
if you wanna boot into ubuntu, use the OSes boot thing to select the HDD
minor badge
just keep both boot and efi on same SSD
wispy blade
i mean i just spam F8 to change boot order whenever i wanna use arch
novel horizon
or you could just set that it asks you which os to boot 🤷♂️
wispy blade
that's grub with os prober w
golden gust
Well, you need a fat formatted efi for the mobo
then you can have a seperate /boot partition but not needed
pretty sure we already knew, we just sorta like, don't care
wispy blade
so in your fstab change it?
golden gust
/boot doesn't need to be a seperate partition
if you want a seperate /boot partition you need to actually format it and give it a mount point
I recommend against a seperate boot partition for desktop anyways, tbqh
ideally you just have one efi partition
/boot is irrelevant for windows
(unless you're booting to windows from grub, in which case, that's EFI AND /boot)
you'd generally be better off just using your mobos boot management stuff, tbqh
set it to efi boot the mobo, and if you wanna use *nix, go to the boot menu and go from there, should generally be some shortcut you can mash
minor badge
disable quick boot then
it should wait 2-3s on the "press button now to do shit" screen
wispy blade
quick boot omegalul
golden gust
we've already said
if you keep efi and /boot on the ssd it will be fast
you'll need to manuallyset that up in the installer
golden gust
no idea how it installs the efi stuff from the GUI installer
like, if you set /boot onto the SSD and mounted it, the crap will be installed on there
I mean, I got no idea if you mount that in the installer or if it does that crapitself
and was that on the SSD or the HDD?
warm anchor
Just get another SSD and put only windows there 
save all the trouble!
olive garden
should be a bannable offence
quasi valley
olive garden
it's not suck's loss though
it's the loss of the people being taught
no, you aren't
golden gust
Please point them to reputable material instead of tainting them
You think you're doing good, but, you're probably not
formal turret
I wondered if the PDC data got sent to the client, and it does, so you can have client based rendering for ChestShops
formal turret
oh boy teaching people skript
I've never actually touched skript, completely ignored it when I first started learning too
golden gust
Yea, there's no seperate methods for dealing with network/chunk serialization of that stuff
woooo
formal turret
I did have to intercept the packet to add the publicBukkitValues tag though, the client discards it normally
wide chasm
I've never actually touched skript, completely ignored it when I first started l...
I didn't ever use Skript either, I used MyCommand, which is pretty much just worse all around
wraith oracle
glad to see Skript to be seen as an learning option at least lol
golden gust
sometimes you gotta shake hands with the devil to spread the good around the world
wraith oracle
we're trying to improve in a lot of instances but the codebase is such a mess, it's a long road ahead
it is an english-based programming language (DSL if you want to be specific) for Minecraft
it allows to create scripts which can simulate plugin behavior by using beginner friendly syntaxes, to an extent
it is not perfect, but it works
it's a rather niche community though it's been gaining some traction lately
limber knotBOT
it's isn't too niche though
golden gust
not niche enough
wraith oracle
well yeah, niche is kind of an understatement
it has a category in spigot and everything after all
wraith trail
generally you wouldn't. It's great for server admins who want to do a quick thing/aren't great with java
wraith oracle
right now, it is meant for beginners but also to do quick stuff like some commands and the such
wraith trail
part of why it gets its bad name is people using it for things it in its current state shouldn't be used for
eg. basing your whole server around this huge 10k line skript
wraith oracle
it is definitely not meant to be used for big projects yet but people like to push its limits
vernal moth
unrelated, am selling my anticheat skript (with ban waves!), DM me for details
wraith trail
saw an antixray skript somewhere that tried to do more than just alerting
wraith oracle
I think it is also good for overall prototyping
there are addons which massively increase its capabilities but eh, they're all limited by the current disaster of API
that's fine I guess
the target audience is definitely not experienced programmers anyways
just people who are getting in and/or server admins
I mean, what do you expect from beginners lol
wraith oracle
if that was true then half of the internet would disappear but here we are
we do plan to increase overall standards in scripts, slowly but surely
unkempt drift
We basically, need to just unplug the internet, wipe it, and start over at some point
wraith oracle
otherwise people will always be like "REEE SKRIPT BAD"
it isn't an issue with the language, just the people who use it
and well the language as well for not enforcing any standards
it's a complex matter
unkempt drift
Is there a skript syntax highlighter? Or an ide plugin
wraith oracle
there was three guys who tried to make an IDE for it
two failed, and the one who kind of managed to do it abandoned the project
there are syntax highlighters for Sublime Text, Notepad++ and Atom though
two english documentations, one online parser and an online text editor
as far I am aware anyways
peak ginkgo
Given that their experience is in Skript I can imagine them trying anything else failing, yes
vernal moth
no vs code extension? smh
topaz mortar
Doesn't that Paint-"IDE" is able to skript? 😄
vernal moth
ms paint ide supports any language, smh
peak ginkgo
no vs code extension? smh
wraith oracle
no vs code extension? smh
I was working on one but never really bothered to finish it lol
wraith oracle
https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=penple.skript-vscode
yeah but this is just a port, it doesn't really use the features vscode provides
peak ginkgo
Probably as good as you're gonna get imo
wraith oracle
I am going to finish the extension this year, I hope
peak ginkgo
Again I expect nothing productive out of anyone whos experience is in Skript
wraith oracle
I am one of the maintainers
lol
the online parser is probably the best you can get as editor
wraith trail
not sure if the maintainers share this view but imo if you know and are comfortable with java, there is not really a good reason to use skript. That's not what I see it's meant for. The place that it does have is for server admins who don't know java and want to add something simple to their server, not write complex core mechanics
for a small admin who does not know java, being able to write a small feature is great for them without having to hire a developer
yeah and you definitely aren't the target user
or so I assume
wraith oracle
We as in the maintainers pretty much share the same view
wraith trail
not sure what their master plan is for the future of skript
wraith oracle
but plan to extend its capabilities so it is seen as an alternative for plugin/mod development
right now it is nowhere near that place yet people kind of try it already and it isn't like we are doing something to stop it
magic river
I've asked this a few other times but maybe you'll actually know the answer: does Skript still run all API requests on a different thread and suggest inserting sleeps when this breaks something?
wraith oracle
I've asked this a few other times but maybe you'll actually know the answer: doe...
what
magic river
I suspect Spigot and Paper would have completely broken it by now if it did so probably not
wraith oracle
ah, I think I know what you mean
magic river
I'm talking about Skript circa 2015 😛
wraith oracle
there was a legacy experimental class which tried to resolve offline players in a different thread for performance implications
but it never got finished and it still tried to fetch offline player using API methods which is of course not safe
magic river
I dunno, sounded to me like it was running everything on a different thread because whoever wrote it didn't understand how to make sleep calls work any other way
wraith oracle
we never bothered to remove it until recently (like a year ago or so)
magic river
But I only heard this from DBO staff, I think
wraith oracle
I don't think that's ever been the case, maybe it was in the beta stage
at least I haven't seen it in the 2.2 code base which is what the current one is based from
magic river
Well if they were telling me about it in 2015 that would probably have been even earlier
wraith oracle
Njol did have some really strange ways to do some stuff
magic river
That's always been my basis for telling people not to use it
wraith oracle
eh, it isn't nowhere near as bad as it was in 2015
or in 2018, for that matter
it was kept practically unmaintained for 2 years since njol abandoned it
some users in the community did some hotfixes and patches for it to work in 1.7 and 1.8 back then
then after a good while, bensku took care of the project for 1.9 support and above
their fork became the main one and we ended up creating an organization
there are about 10 people in the org right now, 7 or so working in the project be it with code or administrative stuff
magic river
Last release was over 5 months ago?
wraith oracle
yeah, we had some issues last year
magic river
Wanted to make sure I'm looking at the right repo
wraith oracle
bensku stopped having time to manage the project and we weren't able to do much without administrative rights
I recently became administrator of the organization and well, we are trying to get things moving again
magic river
wraith oracle
what about it lol
Scripts are parsed independently, they do not do API requests until execution
the parallel/async stuff was recently improved so that we don't parse scripts in the main thread
magic river
The last bit makes it sound like things users write are run on another thread
The bit about things being invalid
wraith oracle
ScriptInfo is the "lexer" cache
it doesn't affect the functionality of scripts
until now, parsing was done in main, which was not desirable but parallelizing the task required huge changes to the code base
we managed to do it by breaking some stuff related to addons
and well, the code base is a utter mess since it is based from what njol left years ago
the "Addon API" is rigid and the project itself is dependent on it, parser is slow and doesn't compile patterns, excessive usage of recursion in some places
and worst thing is that some core parts of the parser depend on Bukkit so we cannot really target other platforms
waxen panther
bababooyee
wraith oracle
the goal is just to replace that completely with something more flexible and platform-agnostic parser, like the project https://github.com/SkriptLang/skript-parser
that project is not perfect, but definitely an improvement over what we have now
waxen panther
talking about skript in paper 😬
someones got a death wish
i wonder what CEO of Skript @cunning raft has to say
wraith oracle
eh, people started asking questions and I have the answers
long story short, Skript is still a mess so you are kind of right by not recommending it probably, but its future seems better than before
magic river
For reference, Bukkit's commands.yml exists because I wanted to remove the most common uses of these kinds of plugins so I could feel better about telling people not to use them 😛
wraith oracle
I haven't seen anyone use that file in ages lmao
it's actually quite useful though
for aliases and the such
olive marlin
- It requires restart
- Can't attach permissions to it
Main reasons I never use it.
magic river
You can put permissions on CommandHelper or Skript 'commands'?
wraith oracle
yeah, cooldowns too
magic river
iirc CH just had a sudo thing so you could let someone run an alias/macro that ran a privileged command without letting them use it generally
CommandHelper growing beyond aliases and macros was the thing that put this idea in my head but originally I was just going to make it another plugin
wraith oracle
command /greet <player=%player%>:
permission: cmd.greet
permission message: <red>You are not allowed to use this command.
trigger:
send "Hey!" to player-argument
does skript use minimessage? 😮
magic river
This doesn't feel simpler than something like the old python plugin loader
vernal moth
buuuh
olive marlin
Does Spigot watchdog interrupt/restart the server or is it Paper thing? I can't get it to work on Spigot :/
wraith oracle
our syntax is basically minimessage already so it would probably be trivial to do so
olive garden
edge cases: hold my beer
wraith oracle
it's just moving all of the string interpolation stuff to Adventure components
olive marlin
That's fine for testing, I'm not gonna use grakkit on prod though.
vernal moth
thats grakkit, it even has typescript types
magic river
Oh yeah, there was DevBukkit for writing things in groovy too
golden gust
We gave incremental warnings in paper
spigot will still do the time out, but, not the warnings
vernal moth
magic river
groovy, kotlin, or python with some metaprogramming magic and wrappers would let you write things similar to CH or Skript
cobalt surge
i feel the need to ping you
olive marlin
spigot will still do the time out, but, not the warnings
Yeah, for me it showed one final error, but didn't restart the server.
cobalt surge
please dont
golden gust
Yea, spigots watchdog can also stall easily
wraith oracle
groovy, kotlin, or python with some metaprogramming magic and wrappers would let...
and is that supposed to be a good thing?
woven otter
wow who is this
vernal moth
there are a few issues left in minimessage that bother me
wraith oracle
runs
golden gust
One of the things I improved in paper and then i think aikar got ontop of it too
olive marlin
I guess I'll report the issue to Paper.
golden gust
oh, wait, major safety one might have just been aycar
olive marlin
And not bother trying to repro on Spigot, since they are different watchdogs anyway.
vernal moth
denwav is taking a shot at a new parser that should fix the main two ones that I have
a) using < in normal text is hella broken
b) json size is extreme since it doesn't build a tree
magic river
I guess you'd have to do it in Ruby though since it's the only one that was bare strings
haughty bear
about git: I have master with some commits, and test, with master + a bunch of small commits. I want to take the current files of test and put it into one commit into master, how can I do that?
magic river
Unless someone has a perl interpreter for java
vernal moth
squash and merge
olive marlin
about git: I have `master` with some commits, and `test`, with master + a bunch ...
Squash the commits.
golden gust
^^
haughty bear
let me try that
magic river
github and gitlab have a checkbox for this on their merge button for PRs
olive marlin
I usually do git rebase -i master and the replace all but first pick to fixup.
wraith oracle
denwav is taking a shot at a new parser that should fix the main two ones that I...
I was actually looking into contributing to MiniMessage but after I saw JFlex I just noped out of the repository lmao
haughty bear
worked, thanks
magic river
This makes me not hopeful for the new skript parser 😛
Unless you mean you hate jflex because it's not jparsec
waxen panther
amaranth is my favourite bukkit hero
magic river
vernal moth
I was actually looking into contributing to MiniMessage but after I saw JFlex I ...
before it was a giant as regex, lmao
wraith oracle
I hoped to use something like jparsec but I don't know, our own approach with an NFA-based strategy on pattern compilation seemed easier
waxen panther
worn ember
there's really no win
magic river
Wait are you saying skript is a regular language?
magic river
PCRE isn't even a regular language
worn ember
Great now Amaranth is going on a Amarant
magic river
shh
wraith oracle
how should I explain it
magic river
I could see it, I guess
wraith oracle
patterns are pretty much limited regular expressions
we cannot use an actual parser since Skript has no regular grammar of a normal interpreted language
we are basically working around the issue that Skript needs a natural language processor which can read our patterns
as of now, I haven't found any algorithms which would serve for our purpose
inputs have no delimiters whatsoever so we depend on the regular expression approach
that being said, the current pattern parsing is a utter mess and doesn't work well at all
olive garden
I hear @wide chasm is a master
in his project, quickskript, he has managed to slow down skript parsing
maybe he has fixed that now, idk
wraith oracle
hence why my idea and hope is to replace it with a more sane non-deterministic finite automaton which is capable of compiling our patterns and figure out a sane NLP algorithm with it
that's the basic idea
tired heath
Just realized my plugin already got 17,943 downloads in total, kinda surprised me.
limber knotBOT
what plugin is that
tired heath
A the BedrockPlayerManager for Geyser
limber knotBOT
Interesting that it got so many downloads if it is for Geyser, though that also explains the downloads a bit since that might be what people search for
ashen cliff
I build the biggest Minecraft pixel art. Here is the download, it took me a lot of time to build.
Their stats file: https://posili.me/i/2021-05-22_22-37-59.png
