general

[ashen cliff]

At least get a good MC username bro.

[olive garden]

gj on OR

[teal cedar]

I have the Alfie username

[ashen cliff]

Weak.

[teal cedar]

it was probably not worht the purchase

[twin lagoon]

used to own Bandicam

[ashen cliff]

Imagine your alt not being named FastLogin bro.

[teal cedar]

I just used the watermarked version 😄

[topaz mortar]

The prefix is hot.

[twin lagoon]

there's a lot more hot things on OR than the prefix

[vestal jasper]

@twin lagoon Unregistered Hypercam 2

lul

[teal cedar]

I haven't played much OR

[twin lagoon]

vic

[swift root]

like u 😳

[teal cedar]

but it is pretty awesome

I liked the menus the most

[twin lagoon]

@swift root

[teal cedar]

animation stuff was pretty cool

but the menus just give it a completely different feel

also pretty sure you have a character for each clock state and compass state

and I just find it funny someone had to map that all

[twin lagoon]

[teal cedar]

texture pack is public information

[twin lagoon]

it's all fun and games until you have someone streaming with 30k viewers trying to join

[meager tusk]

Ok

sucks?

[twin lagoon]

Idriz!

[meager tusk]

Handle it devops guy

[twin lagoon]

Bro!

[meager tusk]

Bro!

[waxen panther]

@topaz mortar

[twin lagoon]

[waxen panther]

hek

[meager tusk]

Michael Bro!

CD when

is it done yet?

[twin lagoon]

Never!

[meager tusk]

Bro.

Gonna hire a KGB hosting sysadmin bro.

[twin lagoon]

Bro....

[waxen panther]

meant to ping michael

[teal cedar]

continuous sminuous

dont need that crap

[meager tusk]

Should have set up CD when you had the chance bro!

[waxen panther]

[teal cedar]

we all have built in CI/CD

it's called dragging the jar file

no need for any of that fancy crap

[meager tusk]

🛌

[twin lagoon]

@waxen panther when are you becoming vtuber

[meager tusk]

I want fancy crap though

😠

[waxen panther]

when i get a hot voice

[teal cedar]

my new mouse should come today

whether it's a good one I don't know

[twin lagoon]

mx master 3

[teal cedar]

just picked some midrange razer mouse

probably named after some snake, my current one is called a deathadder I think

[twin lagoon]

see it's already bad

[teal cedar]

i've had it for 4 years and it is dying

this mouse honestly has been great

4 years of continuous use is not bad at all

considering it lasted through my 1.8 PvP years too

[waxen panther]

razer

[twin lagoon]

[teal cedar]

i also recently bought a new razer keyboard... 😅

[twin lagoon]

still need a new keyboard

[waxen panther]

😬😬😬😬😬

[teal cedar]

i got a huntsman

not that much of a fan to be honest

[twin lagoon]

can RAMA please just drop a fucking 60% keyboard without some stupid layout

[teal cedar]

very sensitive

[vernal moth]

Can vouch for my master

[teal cedar]

i wanted a ducky but always out of stock

[vernal moth]

Stay away from razer keyboards at all cost

[teal cedar]

i've only ever really had razer keyboards

[teal cedar]

and only ever this one mouse (ignoring random mice from previous)

[twin lagoon]

this would've been close to perfection if it didn't have a stupid layout

[teal cedar]

i need function keys

TKL (i think that's 80%?) are my preference

[twin lagoon]

80% yes

[teal cedar]

which is annoying, because they seem to be the hardest to get. lol

[twin lagoon]

i thought i'd hate 60% but it's amazing ngl

[meager tusk]

make your own

like you always do

sad piece of shit

[twin lagoon]

wtf

[meager tusk]

hacked

❤️

[twin lagoon]

no i've decided i don't want to make my own anymore

too much effort

[teal cedar]

isn't making your own mechanical keyboard really har-yeah

[twin lagoon]

it's not too hard

it's just effort

[teal cedar]

also pretty expensive if I recall

[meager tusk]

yeah well

[teal cedar]

if you need to get out a soldering iron it's hard

[twin lagoon]

well you don't even need a soldering iron

[meager tusk]

Michael doesn't care about something being difficult(unless it's his job) or expensive

[teal cedar]

i don't know how stuff works

[teal cedar]

michael is the ceo of money I see

[meager tusk]

yeah i'll let the chinese kids do the job

🏃‍♂️

[teal cedar]

capitalism!

i think I need a new headset too

and my microphone isn't great...

seems like I always buy peripherals, cheap out and end up spending more replacing them

[novel horizon]

why tho

that's like one thing that can last you multiple years

[teal cedar]

not this one

the wire came all tangled and looped, and never unlooped

and is ripping and exposing the actual wire

it was some £70 headset

[granite axle]

youre telling me you dont build your own cables

[teal cedar]

though I'm surprised, it's corsair so I didn't expect this quality

tempted to just shell £300 for some wireless ones that will sound great and last a long time

[twin lagoon]

@swift root

[spare venture]

hi michael

[twin lagoon]

bonjour

[spare venture]

I shouldn’t have scheduled my flight for 5:30 AM haha

[visual egret]

hi party

[untold copper]

hi oskar

[worn ember]

Why not

[vernal bone]

[worn ember]

Lmao i love these

[spare venture]

Because it’s early 😦

[worn ember]

Sadness

[teal cedar]

i am looking at cloud

i can't tell if I like it or not

the alternative is building my own command framework which won't have nearly as many features

[woven otter]

Try it

[mossy vessel]

Cloud is great

[teal cedar]

Don't you help make it? 😛

[worn ember]

take a look at acf

[teal cedar]

I've used ACF in the past

Not a huge fan of the annotation based stuff to be honest

[woven otter]

Acf is great too

[worn ember]

then you'll like cloud better

[mossy vessel]

I've made no contributions to cloud's code base.

[teal cedar]

I see that now

[woven otter]

Cloud also supports annotations

[teal cedar]

But I am also not convinced that no bias is present

[woven otter]

But thats optional

[teal cedar]

I've heard good things about cloud though

Just wondering whether to use it or just make my own simple thing

I've sat here intending to make my own for a while, but I've just been too lazy and ended up doing nothing

[worn ember]

depends on what you need

[woven otter]

Why would you

[teal cedar]

Honestly nothing complex at all really, it's more for convenience

[worn ember]

i might look into cloud cuz i'm running into some weird bugs with ACF lol

[native wolf]

Cloud is nice

[teal cedar]

The bulk of commands will probably be no argument commands, but I will likely create some convenience commands too with some argument complexity

[woven otter]

Command framework with kotlin dsl 😏

[worn ember]

[visual egret]

im too dum to figure out cloud

[worn ember]

we know

[spare venture]

ACF is nice

[void void]

where to report bugs

[wide chasm]

You can report Paper bugs on GitHub

[void void]

any1 else havin the issue where paper just crashes and restarts over and over again and doesnt produce crash reports?

apparantly its bug effecting all paper servers

but im skeptical

that its just my server and apex dont know how to fix it so they try to palm me off to paper

[vernal moth]

If you got no logs we can't help you

But considering paper is running on 100k servers without such issues, I doubt there's a general problem here

Dum hosts are known to lie about issues they don't know to fix sadly :/

But it might still make sense to send the latest.log in #paper-help and ppl can take a look

Just because you don't see an issue in the log doesn't mean others can't give you pointers

[ashen cliff]

INB4 1.8.

[gentle crow]

Is there a possibility to log the errors/warnings separately?

I ask this because this happened after an auto restart in the night: [Server thread/ERROR]: Chunk file at [6, 1] is in the wrong location; relocating. (Expected [6, 1], got [5, 1])

Now it was in the middle of someones house so I went searching for it. Luckily I had a recent backup of that world.

[ashen cliff]

Did you maybe try to figure out why you are getting this issue?

Also grep exists.

[gentle crow]

I tried but no idea, I could post the log here or should I paste it in paper help?

[ashen cliff]

#paper-help is the correct place for that.

[gentle crow]

Does that also work on multiple log.gz files?

[ashen cliff]

zcat + grep.

[gentle crow]

Oké thanks will have a look into that.

[warm anchor]

Don’t eat cookie on your keyboard... it’s gonna be messy!

[unkempt drift]

God, I need to clean my keyboard

[olive marlin]

zgrep is a thing too. And will show you from which file it found the line.

[unkempt drift]

I just haven’t relooked up how to take the switches off

[gentle crow]

Is there a good cmd alternative?

wind cmd*

bash zgrep ?

[minor badge]

better yet, ripgrep with -z

[warm anchor]

Proxi helpful? Pog

[mental meadow]

proxi owesome gamer

pog

[cedar spade]

better yet, use bash /s

[left swift]

Bish bash bosh

[bronze crystal]

why doesnt /setworldspawn work properly?

[visual egret]

"not work properly" is too vauge

does your pc melt when you run it?

does your server start blasting cat videos on your client?

[worn ember]

since when does this screen exist?

[visual egret]

1.16

we were speaking about it when the snapshots came out

[bronze crystal]

no i set it the spawn somewhere underground, and people spawn overground and not on the same x or y coordinate

[worn ember]

and why does it pop up when i trigger the next track on my arduino lol

[visual egret]

gamerule

[visual egret]

does it happen to press "p"?

[worn ember]

no it triggers the next track media key

[visual egret]

doesent do that for me

[worn ember]

well thats annoying

[void void]

is that for bedrock or java?

[worn ember]

java

[void void]

oh java had those

didnt know

[worn ember]

me neither lol

[visual egret]

bedrock also has it iirc

[left swift]

What if bedrock is java

[quasi valley]

what if you ?

[novel horizon]

i kinda like this

[worn ember]

5

[void void]

does anybody use windows

lol

[worn ember]

yes

[novel horizon]

yes, me

[worn ember]

only tryhards use linux as their main OS

[granite axle]

am i a tryhard then

aRcH bTw

[worn ember]

yes

[warm anchor]

Ded you sounds mad

let them use whatever OS they want

[worn ember]

No such thing as mad ded

@warm anchor did you try the new patch?

[warm anchor]

yeah

2 games

[worn ember]

like it?

[warm anchor]

need more CM buff so she can be proper carry mid

[worn ember]

dude haste cm with shard is op

[warm anchor]

lmao

[worn ember]

or lycan bite

[warm anchor]

sjes still not tanky enough

[worn ember]

she gets 20 armor tho?

[warm anchor]

@worn ember can’t block spell so ehp is still low

[worn ember]

true

[daring gulch]

DotA nerds?

[olive marlin]

Ugh, my 3D printer started leaking and broke its belt tensioner as well as cable strain relief...
Time to make it print more parts for itself

[tropic flame]

mfw people still occasionally submit PRs to bukkit's original repository

https://github.com/Bukkit/Bukkit/pull/1122

Feb 11, 2020

[cunning raft]

he mass pr'd to shit ton of repos

[wraith trail]

It's a bot, not a person

just auto-pring to a ton of repos

[cunning raft]

it is a person

[mental meadow]

https://github.com/JLLeitschuh/bulk-security-pr-generator

[cunning raft]

and he made a bot to pr them

[wraith trail]

but the prs are automate

[tropic flame]

even if it's a bot, https://github.com/Bukkit/Bukkit/pull/1121

Sep 17, 2019

[twin lagoon]

@mental meadow

[tropic flame]

i think it was already time to know the original repo is dead LMAO

[mental meadow]

michael uwu!!!

[tropic flame]

mfw Canary/Android Beta Test discord now lets you mention voice channels?

#725466324939309097

[wraith trail]

how do you autocomplete it though?

haven't been able to get that to work

[tropic flame]

you don't

as of yet at least

[wraith trail]

ah ok

[tropic flame]

you gotta type it fully

[ashen cliff]

#725466324939309097

[magic river]

oof https://twitter.com/the_secret_club/status/1380868759129296900

secret club (@the_secret_club)

Two years ago, secret club member @floesen_ reported a remote code execution flaw affecting all source engine games. It can be triggered through a Steam invite. This has yet to be patched, and Valve is preventing us from publicly disclosing it. https://t.co/0FWRvEVuUX

Retweets

636

Likes

1940

Twitter · Apr 10, 2021, 1:02 PM

[ashen cliff]

Meh, you can tag them with IDs too.

[magic river]

I think you have to accept the invite which makes it less scary but jeez

[quaint fern]

Where do I customise the server closed message?

on /stop command?

[golden gust]

check the .yml files

[wraith trail]

bukkit.yml iirc

[quaint fern]

thx

[quasi valley]

this is quite an interesting read as well, posted below the tweet https://blog.jakegealer.me/valve-a/

[visual egret]

#typing-sounds

mfw

[rapid edge]

Who handles bans?

[waxen panther]

What do you want

[quasi valley]

I think they want us to ban someone called Victor

[rapid edge]

Nope

That's my family name

xD

There is a troll here

And i want him to get banned

[warm anchor]

wtf

this works now?

LOL

you can finally link VC wow

[twin lagoon]

neat

[warm anchor]

ONLY TAKE THEM 2 YEAR

[twin lagoon]

how doe sit work though

[warm anchor]

password to confirm channel deletion when?

that was also one of the requested feature

[twin lagoon]

@stone echo

not like that

[spare venture]

Not on mobile for me yet

[warm anchor]

rn any admin can accidentally delete any channel in a drunken state

[spare venture]

Isn’t that why you save a template

[twin lagoon]

no you just have competent admins & correct permissions

[spare venture]

That too

[warm anchor]

in certain service, you can add a secondary password for admin action.

but still Michael what if someone got drunk and decide to nuke your server

[wraith trail]

<#>

[warm anchor]

xD

[spare venture]

Idk the perms on my discord are set properly and have competent admins

[twin lagoon]

@warm anchor

#289587909638488064

hot

[warm anchor]

[spare venture]

<#typing-sounds>

Hot

[wraith trail]

Need the id

[visual egret]

so uh

[twin lagoon]

#345371036499312641

[visual egret]

#345371036499312641

ah

[warm anchor]

wait

still doesnt work on my cleint wtf

[wraith trail]

You needed canary to do it 2 days ago

Might have changed idk

[cunning raft]

working on ptb

[ashen cliff]

Working on stable.

[warm anchor]

[golden gust]

falling asleep at my desk drinking coffee

2 cups in almost

[visual egret]

working on normal client

[golden gust]

head hits desk

[warm anchor]

isnt it early still in UK wtf cat

[visual egret]

its 18:13

[wraith trail]

he was up when I went to bed and is up now

[warm anchor]

Cat never sleeps

[visual egret]

just like u

[warm anchor]

Oskar I get my 8 hours everyday (nap included)

[untold copper]

8 hours is so less tho

how do you ppl survive

[spare venture]

I got 7.5 hours last night. Asleep at 8:00, woke up at 3:30

[waxen panther]

😬

[spare venture]

Been a fun day

[untold copper]

sad lol

[spare venture]

How much sleep do you get if you think 8 is low?

[ashen cliff]

Bruh. My sleep AVG dropped to under 6 hours this month.

[warm anchor]

I usually get 6 hour during night time and I get 2 hour nap during the day

[celest coyote]

8 is not low lol

More than 8 is too much

[warm anchor]

8 hour is pretty long lol

[celest coyote]

I think I get 7.5 on most nights

[untold copper]

8

excluding naps

and my naps are like 3 hours long

so

[spare venture]

More than 8 is definitely too long

3 hour naps wtf

You’re a kid why

[wraith trail]

that's impressive

[untold copper]

im 15 aren't i supposed to need more sleep

[spare venture]

No?

[untold copper]

no?

wat

[waxen panther]

no

[untold copper]

hM

i guess i sleep too much then

[warm anchor]

actually younger people sleep more so does poppy.... snoopa poppy confirmed?

[untold copper]

lol

[upbeat falcon]

How Much Sleep Do I Need? (for Teens) - Nemours KidsHealth

https://kidshealth.org/en/teens/how-much-sleep.html
Adolescents are notorious for not getting enough sleep. The average amount of sleep that teenagers get is between 7 and ,7 ¼ hours,. However, they need between 9 and ,9 ½ hours, (studies show that most teenagers need exactly ,9 ¼ hours, of sleep).

Requested by sulu#6018 - how much sleep for 15 year old - result 1 of 9

[wraith trail]

wat 9.25 hours

thats a lot

[ashen cliff]

👏

[upbeat falcon]

Poppy - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poppy
A poppy is a flowering plant in the subfamily Papaveroideae of the family Papaveraceae. Poppies are herbaceous plants, often grown for their colourful flowers.

Requested by EterNity#0001 - how much does poppy sleep? - result 1 of 10

[untold copper]

Yeah I mean I sleep at 10 till like 7-8

[warm anchor]

wtf

[untold copper]

then in the afternoon from 2 to 6 or 4 to 6 or something like that

[spare venture]

You definitely don’t need 8 + a 3 hour nap

That’s concerning

[waxen panther]

mfs say we're supposed to sleep for 9 hours and then give us 10 hours of homework a day omegalul

[untold copper]

true XD

[spare venture]

Wtf from 2 to 6

[untold copper]

when I sleep

I sleep heavily

Always been that way with me

[spare venture]

Oversleeping is probably not good

[untold copper]

probably not, but what else is there to do

[warm anchor]

I think its fine. Hes like 12

[untold copper]

wake up, school

homework

study

play games

then?

sleep more

because I can

might as well do it before I can't do it anymore

[wraith trail]

yeah gotta save up that sleep for later in life

[untold copper]

anyways I guess I go sleep

btw on normal school days, like back when I actually went to school and used my brain in class, I had to wake up at 6 sooo

I didn't get that much sleep

[wraith trail]

did you drop out or something?

[untold copper]

And I came back by like 3, so no afternoon sleepy

[spare venture]

Lmao

[warm anchor]

snoopa probably on resisicted schedule? Hes from India and covid is like really bad there

[spare venture]

Covid made some schools just like mostly do very little

[wraith trail]

ah yeah fair

[spare venture]

Ours are 100% back in person now

Lot of parents are prob considering holding their kids back

Like imagine your kindergarten aged kid missing an entire year, they miss so much

[warm anchor]

kids dont really die from covid and how American childcare works they kinda forced hand on sending them back early in a sense. But hey vaccine is 25% done in US

[wraith trail]

yeah same here

except about 25% of parents are holding their kids online

[warm anchor]

sulu you get your shot yet??

[spare venture]

Kids kill their parents tho lol

[wraith trail]

no 19th

[spare venture]

Or grandparents

[warm anchor]

I get my 2nd in 2 weeks hyped

[spare venture]

And those shits spread germs so much

Kids just straight up cough on eachother without hesitation

Just glad I don’t have a kid right now

Worst time to raise one

[wraith trail]

i'd hate to be a kid now as well

[spare venture]

Yeah

[wraith trail]

either go to school and take unsafe risks/stay online and get left out

[warm anchor]

I've seem some online class and how it is run

it is honestly a joke

LOL

[untold copper]

my schedule is about to get 10 times worse, they announced classes from 8 am now (used to be 9) and then they announced "extra" classes, by which they mean you have to attend unless you want to fail miserably, and then I have this course thingy from 6-8 for like 2 weeks

so these 2 weeks are gonna be intense

[spare venture]

6 am to 8 pm?

[untold copper]

I have to study all the time for weekly exams as well

[warm anchor]

6~8 PM I assume

[spare venture]

Ah

[untold copper]

dum dum no from 8am to 1pm and then 1pm to 2pm extra classes

[spare venture]

Oh right I was supposed to just know your daycare schedule

[untold copper]

6 am to 8pm is intense

[spare venture]

Yes

[untold copper]

does you college do that or something

because thats wack

[spare venture]

Your schedule is not fucking intense

[untold copper]

yes it is

for me

[spare venture]

That’s less than normal

[untold copper]

no afternoon 3 hour sleepy :c

[wraith trail]

I mean for a kid who has been doing nothing for forever

and taking 3 hour naps every day

[untold copper]

yes

that

[spare venture]

Our schools are usually 8 hour days

[visual egret]

are you like 6

naps not required

[spare venture]

7 hours is not “intense”

[untold copper]

7 hours of ONLINE SHIT IS

I cant sit

[wraith trail]

party it's all relative

[untold copper]

in front of a screen

[visual egret]

online shit is annoying

[untold copper]

and focus

[wraith trail]

what is intense for him is not for others etc.

[untold copper]

for 7 hours

In real school? SURE

[spare venture]

I’m sure a lot of stuff is intense for him

[untold copper]

but online, I just cant

[visual egret]

earlier teachers went: ok so we see some people are getting too much work, we will decrease workload to 3 lessons a day

*everyone happy*

then each lesson suddenly magically contained 3x the slides in the powerpoint

[untold copper]

majik

[nova plume]

snoopa from what part of india are you from

[jade flax]

that's what I call "Public School"

[untold copper]

live close to delhi

[nova plume]

i was born in delhi

[warm anchor]

So nice to get direct input from 12 year old

[untold copper]

epic same

[nova plume]

then we moved to the uk when i was like a year old, and now i live in the uk

[spare venture]

Yeah I guess I forget some people here are like 12

[warm anchor]

Online school is not good for what they said above for sure

[spare venture]

Online school is definitely inferior

[jade flax]

let's not get to into talking about age here

[untold copper]

online school is just no

[spare venture]

Especially for high school or younger

[untold copper]

OH BTW IMA BE 15 SOON

pog

[visual egret]

its nice when they set you normal amounts of work

[wraith trail]

I mean idk I think i'd like online school in high school assuming that covid was not a thing and you could see friends out of school

[spare venture]

College it’s OK because the quality of education is just begger

[wraith trail]

so much bullshit skipped

[nova plume]

gcses next yr :(

[jade flax]

eh, ive found some college courses to be an absolute joke

[spare venture]

Yeah but you don’t get to see your friends and like 50% of high school is just social

[visual egret]

but we literally finished all of our curriculum like a month before school ended

[wraith trail]

well yeah but out of scool

[nova plume]

my school cant tell the difference between overloading us and not

[jade flax]

thats because they aren't physically with you

can't "read the room"

to understand what is difficult and what isn't

[nova plume]

yh they cant tell what stage u are at and if ur struggling or not

[spare venture]

I don’t think I did much mindless shit

[untold copper]

Like, we had physical school for a brief while

6 days

and it was SO MUCH BETTER

It was optional, but I chose to go, but the level of focus that you're able to achieve in the classroom just isn't the same online

[spare venture]

But yeah I learned very little from my online courses in college

[nova plume]

when boris opened schools, our school decided to give us FUCKING EXAMS instead of helping us over what we did over lockdown

[visual egret]

i mean its pretty easy to tell that you might be giving too much work when you finish the curriculum a month early

[spare venture]

Drastically inferior to in person

[visual egret]

same

[untold copper]

we have board exams this year

such pressure much wow

[nova plume]

10th or 12th

[untold copper]

10th

[nova plume]

oh

ik this stuff

[spare venture]

What are board exams

[untold copper]

...

ok so

[warm anchor]

For india school

[untold copper]

education boards

[nova plume]

in india theyre basically gcses and a levels but for india

[untold copper]

CBSE and ICSE and IB and IGCSE

[warm anchor]

Kinda like preSAT?

[nova plume]

wait u dont speek british

[untold copper]

these are education boards

majority of india is in CBSE board

[celest coyote]

Imagine doing assigned homework

This is why people stress over school

Judt don't do the home work

[golden gust]

Oh god, I was just saying something on twatter

[visual egret]

agreed we should just copy paste from the smart kid

[golden gust]

https://twitter.com/boyetronic/status/1381286661838008322

electronicboy (@boyetronic)

@unamccormack @HelenLovatt2 @deyna_grimshaw They pretty much had all the students go to their term address at the beginning of the academic year, then said no in-person lessons, and then said "you might not be allowed home for Christmas"

Twitter · Apr 11, 2021, 4:42 PM

[visual egret]

oh wait thats sadly me smh

[nova plume]

yep

[spare venture]

Saying names doesn’t really explain what they are snoopa

Are they college placement exams or graduation exams?

[untold copper]

in 10th and 12 grade, this board conducts an exam to gauge the performance of students, and its basically considered the decided factor in a lot of things (and people will judge you by those marks for lifetime), since its a generalized exam. Since the exam is same for everyone in that board, which is majority of india's population, the board exam is very important to tell someone how you are doing as compared to others, so the pressure is to perform better than other people.

[golden gust]

We basically have the same setup

[untold copper]

Indians are hyper competitive btw just saying

[nova plume]

i realised lol totally wasnt born there

[golden gust]

So, basically, We have like GCSE level 1 or 2 at year 6, which takes you to high school

[spare venture]

Mark’s for lifetime? Idk, I’ve never had anyone ask me my ACT/SAT score past high school

[untold copper]

not like that here IDK WHY

[nova plume]

now im in a really good grammar school close to london cos of my parents pushing me

[visual egret]

isnt that sats cat?

[spare venture]

I see

[golden gust]

Ah, yea, year 6 is SATs

[spare venture]

But are they for placement into colleges? Like the ACT/SAT

[visual egret]

so is year 2/3

[untold copper]

"Beta (formal way to address someone younger to you), how much did you get in 10th/12th board?"
"X% uncle"

thats basically how it is

[golden gust]

I went to a school where I got to sit my GCSEs in like year 9 or 10 vs 11 for maths and english

[untold copper]

every. fucking. time. you talk to someone about your marks.

it pisses me off so much

[nova plume]

same

[spare venture]

So they’re placement into colleges

Gotcha

[untold copper]

but there's little I can do about it, so much as well just score well

[golden gust]

Testing in the UK is pretty much a total arse of a thing

[nova plume]

say that to our school smh

[untold copper]

we have 1 exam every week and then 1 half yearly, then 1 finals

[spare venture]

Well that’s how things work everywhere, you take an exam when you’re 15-16, and it decides if you should go to college and how good of a college you get to go to

[untold copper]

those are not COLLEGE exams

[golden gust]

One of the exam boards was also tryna push their new fancy certificate which was supposed to be like a GCSE equiv but basically I don't think that anywhere really cares all too much about it

[untold copper]

boards are not college exams

[golden gust]

in the UK we have boards

[untold copper]

boards are just exams to tell ur generalized performance

COLLEGE exams are separate

[golden gust]

Every certification is done by a board pretty much

[nova plume]

in our school we have these things called essential skills tests, which basically decide if we get to take that subject for a levels or not after gcses, if you fail one essential skills test then thats your whole a level offer gone

[untold copper]

though you can use your board marks to get a job

[visual egret]

BTEC be like

[untold copper]

wuts BTEC o.O

[visual egret]

like BTEC exams

uh

well thats a shit way to explain it

[golden gust]

Business and Technology Education Council

BTEC is a board

they have their own line of certs

[untold copper]

oh

ok

[golden gust]

Well, actually, I lie, it's basically a set of qualifications or something managed by the BTEC council under the edexcel exam board

[nova plume]

edexcel sucks aqa better lol

[visual egret]

i tried to explain it to someone in the way i would explain it to anyone in the uk since "BTEC" is also kinda slang for "shit"

[golden gust]

pretty sure I got balls deep'd by AQA

[spare venture]

Well, I asked three times and didn’t get an answer so I assumed it was

[nova plume]

yh lol

[untold copper]

sorry I was busy typing lol

[spare venture]

So the exams mean nothing?

[untold copper]

anyways, boards gauge your performance country-wide, then you have college entrances which are separate

[nova plume]

they kinda mean everything, u kinda get judged for life

[untold copper]

^

[visual egret]

everyone got so gassed for sats just to realise they meant nothing

[spare venture]

But they don’t mean anything if they don’t qualify you for anything

[nova plume]

imagine doing sats, i didnt do yr 6 sats

[untold copper]

thats... not the mentality here

[spare venture]

If they’re not for college entrance exams, and not for high school graduation, what’s the point of them?

[upbeat falcon]

All India Secondary School Examination - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_India_Secondary_School_Examination
For the 2016-17 academic year, the Central Board of Secondary Education has revived the old

Requested by xXSnoopaGamerXx - point of board exams india - result 2 of 10

[nova plume]

ask that to the indian school system

[golden gust]

Ah, we don't have enterence exams in the UK

colleges jus go off your btec's

[nova plume]

i did 11+ and now im stuck in a really good grammar school i dont like and now im stuck here

[spare venture]

Yes that’s what I figured cat

It sounds like his exams are similar to the SAT/ACT in the US, but not used for anything

[visual egret]

i wish i could skip that... it was just a pain in the ass and meant nothing except your set in maths in secondary, where sometimes the secondary school would have their own tests (mine didnt) but everyone acted like they were the biggest thing ever

[golden gust]

Now, thereare some uni's which have enterance exams for specific courses

[spare venture]

Although “In India, schools and junior colleges often consider All India Secondary School Examination scores for admission to higher secondary disciplines (humanities, sciences, commerce or vocational courses) in the absence of admission tests.”

Yeah by entrance exams I meant ACT/SAT

[untold copper]

thats not entrance exam

[golden gust]

we have SATs before entering high school

[untold copper]

you know what

sure

[golden gust]

they're not for colleges

[nova plume]

theres 11+ too in the uk

[golden gust]

colleges here just go off your GCSE/BTECs, etc

[visual egret]

they mean literally nothing though

[spare venture]

SAT here is a test for colleges to use to determine how well you’d perform at their university

[visual egret]

just whatever set you go to in maths

[golden gust]

uni's, which are basically the equiv of colleges elsewhere, go off your A levels

[nova plume]

well lmao im in a really good grammar school now and i dont like it here

[golden gust]

or, level 4 btecs, iirc

[spare venture]

Grammar school isn’t that the equivalent to elementary school lol

[nova plume]

nah

[golden gust]

high school iirc

[nova plume]

grammar school is like secondary school but on steroids

[untold copper]

what exactly is a grammar school?

oh

ok

[visual egret]

never heard of that tbh

[golden gust]

it's basically just a private ran high school iirc

they're often more prestegious and more "limited" in classes

[twin lagoon]

ah so for the RICH

fuck CAPITALISM

[visual egret]

oh so like every area with big houses in london

[spare venture]

Oh I thought it was the school where you learn grammar lmao

[golden gust]

so, you generally get more of a 1:1 learning experience

[untold copper]

I go to a private school lmao

[spare venture]

So like elementary school

[nova plume]

no u take an exam

[untold copper]

fuck government education

[golden gust]

Grammer schools in the UK iirc have to allow public admissions to some degree iirc

for many, it makes sense

I know I was held back by my public school education

[untold copper]

btwbtw, what is "high school" for you, like from which to which grade? and what is senior and secondary school?

[spare venture]

In the US private schools are good but public schools can be excellent if you go to a good school district

[golden gust]

My school was basically dying out slowly, nobody really wanted to go there for reasons of it basically being in a shitty area and was even put on special measures

[visual egret]

year 7 to year 12

[spare venture]

14-18 years old snoopa

[golden gust]

So, our classes wher egenerally small, and we only had 3 "sets", where most schools in the UK generally have more I think

[untold copper]

14-18 is high school?

[wraith trail]

yes

[untold copper]

ohk

[spare venture]

I just said that yes

[wraith trail]

you go in at grade 9 (average 13/14 year old) and then are done at grade 12

[visual egret]

i went to high school at 11 here

[golden gust]

12-16 is high school

[spare venture]

Oskar goes to a special school

[untold copper]

here we have 6th-8th middle school, and then 9th-12th high/senior school

which is same

i think

[visual egret]

wat

[spare venture]

Yes snoopa

[untold copper]

nice

[visual egret]

party did you just

[golden gust]

But, we now have compulasary education until 18, so, you either carry on with 6th form, which, is basically 17-18 and many high schools basically added on their own 6th form

[tropic flame]

KGB school

[golden gust]

But, you can also got to college at that stage or get an apprenticeship or something

[untold copper]

as I said earlier, since most of india's population is working/labour population, you can drop out after giving your 10th boards and find a job

then those 10th marks will be taken as your so-called "entrance" marks

do not mistake boards for entrance exams though, they are not meant to be like that, a lot of people just do that here

[golden gust]

meanwhile we're a welfare state, so, wooo

[spare venture]

USA is
Ages 3-4 preschool
Ages 5-10 elementary school
Ages 11-13 middle school
Ages 14-18 high school

[untold copper]

yeah similar here

[spare venture]

Small adjustments to that, but generally that

[nova plume]

What’s the point of middle school

[spare venture]

??

[wraith trail]

it was a thing for a while to hold back people in younger grades in the US (so they would be "more prepared" for shcool later)

[spare venture]

The point is to learn

[wraith trail]

not sure if they still do that much

[nova plume]

Oh

[untold copper]

middle school was this awkward place

[golden gust]

So, my bro basically didn't bother to attend his english exam and generally flunked it, so, he got shafted but did eventually see the light, kinda

[nova plume]

Cos in the uk u go to bullying people in primary school cos ur the oldest to getting bullied in secondary cos your the youngest

[untold copper]

ooh party btw you remember that extra coaching exam thingy I told you about earlier?

extra coaching for college entrance exam?

[golden gust]

My sister left high school with okkaaayish grades, and then flunked college, bearing in mind that her college was literally a 2 minute walk down the street and up a small hill, so, she ended up getting a job at subway, got pregnant, and then basically quit at the end of her maternity leave

bearing in mind that she hadn't even been there for a year

[untold copper]

...

[nova plume]

Moral of the story don’t get pregnant

[golden gust]

my family is going places

[spare venture]

Be like cat

[golden gust]

I got no idea what my younger brother is doing or plans to do, I ain't talked to them in a few years

[spare venture]

Not like his siblings

[golden gust]

But, yea, oof

[untold copper]

you all ain't close to your siblings?

[nova plume]

Snoopa it’s like 11 in india get some sleep wait no it’s the summer holidays there right?

Like holiday until new grade

I can’t form sentences yet I’m one of the best at English in my year

[untold copper]

i went to 10th, they start the school year a month early

to "prepare" for board exams

[nova plume]

Oh

F

[untold copper]

yes

summer is like in may

May end

[visual egret]

jokes on you guys, i did all of my like 20 exams before easter break

[golden gust]

I mean, I ain't closed to my parents and I don't wanna be a yoyo to my littlest sister and have 0 interest in pretending all is fine

[nova plume]

Same I hate my school

[untold copper]

im like suuper close to my sister

[nova plume]

Jokes on u I’m an only child

[wraith trail]

well snoopa you're 15

[untold copper]

lol easter

[visual egret]

but did they seriously think we were gonna get good grades?

[untold copper]

yeah we don't do that here

[wraith trail]

and probably live together

[visual egret]

they gave us a week to revise

[wraith trail]

so you kinda have to be to a point

[visual egret]

and then 2 weeks of exams

[nova plume]

Yh cos they don’t even help us

[untold copper]

no, I mean we're CLOSE

[wraith trail]

physically?

idk what you mean

[untold copper]

um

no like

AAAA

wait gimme a second to think

[nova plume]

Just plonk u in front of a test paper even tho u didn’t learn anything over lockdown

[golden gust]

they get along well

[wraith trail]

I mean idk what you're trying to clarify

yeah thats what I was saying

[untold copper]

yes
that

[golden gust]

Like, almost alabama but not

[wraith trail]

not physically

wat no

not what I was saying

[nova plume]

:0

[untold copper]

we do stuff together and watch tv and make memes and listen to each other and stuff

[nova plume]

So not argue

[visual egret]

wait, your sibling is actually likeable?

impossible

[untold copper]

shocking ikr

[untold copper]

OHO NO

[limber knot]

My sibling is just a pain

[untold copper]

we argue all the time

[nova plume]

Then u don’t get along wel do u

[untold copper]

but its fine, we're like mates lol

[limber knot]

Ah, so normal familily?

[untold copper]

wat?

[visual egret]

idk guys, im like the only non-aggressive male in my family 😅

[nova plume]

Oskar if you have the choice to pick product design for gcse don’t

[golden gust]

I never really got along with my siblings well, especially being a potential aspie and more interested in stuff like making shit spark and all that rather than brutish arsekuk

[untold copper]

you'll get there

[visual egret]

design is just no

[golden gust]

So, I never really got along all too well with my siblings even when I tried, so, I just kinda didn't care

[visual egret]

i wont

[golden gust]

My littestlist sister was nice though

[nova plume]

Yh don’t I did and I’m dying

[untold copper]

cat how many siblings do you have

[golden gust]

It was fun though because I'm the type of person who'll sorta just like "kid mode" with children and fuck around

[untold copper]

my sister is like so much smarter than I am lol

[native wolf]

Same lol

[golden gust]

I remember bringing my best mate and another mate home, and I was chucking my littlest sister in the air

[untold copper]

ooh I have a little cousin sister

i adoree her

[golden gust]

They whre both just looking like OMG, 😮

[untold copper]

best friends c:

XD

[golden gust]

littest is pissing her sides laughing enjoying it

[visual egret]

cousins are the best

usually the least annoying

[untold copper]

not all of them

[visual egret]

yeah

but bearable

[untold copper]

all my cousins are girls, so

[nova plume]

It’s confusing cos we refer to it as cousin sister but not british people cos I live here now. They just say cousin

[visual egret]

girls arent annoying

[untold copper]

i just sit around and watch them do their thing

[visual egret]

when you get the squeaky 6 year old boy on his ipad i hate it

[limber knot]

oskar: just you wait

[nova plume]

we got em bois

[golden gust]

tbqh, I've always gotten along with chidren coz I'm more willing to just have fun rather than be stuck on my phone all the time

[untold copper]

lmaO

yes

that

same

[golden gust]

Like, at any party am generally chasing the youngens around and having a laugh, whereas everybody else is just generally like two eyes gawking at their phones

is fun

[visual egret]

same

the children are better than the teenagers usually

[nova plume]

We just be vibing on our phones usually tho I actually interact with the kids

[golden gust]

but, my littest sister and all my cousins and nieces would often run to see me, every morning when I lived at my grandparents my cousin would come and wake me up, and my littest sister would always run towards me when she saw me, assuming she wasn't running away

[nova plume]

Are u saying ur sister was the littest or the littlest

[golden gust]

Well, I had a sister and 2 brothers, and then my birt giver had a child with my step father, hence I refer to her as my littlest sister

[nova plume]

Birth giver? Don’t u mean mum

[untold copper]

jesus

[golden gust]

my siblings where generally a bit of an arse around her being a half sister but didn't bother me

[untold copper]

that is complicated

[golden gust]

Well, yea, but, my mother was an abusive bitch, so, I don't generally like giving her that title

[nova plume]

Oh

Things escalated quickly

[untold copper]

I'm lucky I guess, my parents always encouraged me to do stuff with my sister

[tribal flicker]

damn

[untold copper]

yeah

[golden gust]

well, my step father was in prison when she was born, and so between my birth giver I was generally the only other person really there for her

[nova plume]

Cos I’m an only child I’m always like I want a dog and then my parents reply we’ll get one when you agree to pick up it’s shit

[golden gust]

lol

[untold copper]

xD

[nova plume]

Cat your family is very complicated

[untold copper]

me and my sis want a cat

cats are da best

bestest

[golden gust]

tbqh, picking up shit really ain't all that bad

[nova plume]

That’s legit what they say, but in Hindi so snoopa u can imagine

[untold copper]

XD

yes

[golden gust]

Like, get some food bags and you just sorta like turn it inside out and pick it up

[visual egret]

its impossible to get along when the only thing your brother wants to do is fifa and football

just saying

[golden gust]

My grandparents have pretty much always had doggos and so it's been kinda fun

[untold copper]

jesus now that I thought it it sounds so obnoxious

[golden gust]

tiggy and maccy

[untold copper]

lmao

[nova plume]

Yh

[untold copper]

how many siblings do you have oskar?

[visual egret]

1

but its unbearable

[untold copper]

older?

[golden gust]

I don't recall what tiggys real name was, think it was tiger, coz he had that sorta like fur pattern, but, he was shy af and didn't really come out of his sell all that much until maccy passed

[untold copper]

people with pets grow up differently

[golden gust]

was fun though, you'd try to pet tiggy and he'd just be like "nope, fuck this, am out"

[untold copper]

xD

https://tenor.com/view/fuck-fuck-this-shit-im-out-gif-11148124

[golden gust]

maccy on the other hand could never get enough pets, and as soona s you started petting maccy (max), tiggy would want in

[nova plume]

I had a dog before we moved to the uk cos I lived with my grandparents before, they had to put it down tho and because i was 1 I can’t remember anything

[untold copper]

oof

[golden gust]

I lived a good few years with my grandparents, and I have to say, I 100% want a doggo when I have children

[untold copper]

I sadly can't get doggos or cattos

[visual egret]

younger

[untold copper]

because alergies

to fur and stuff

[untold copper]

thats not so bad

[visual egret]

if he was older maybe he'd be more bearable

[golden gust]

Like, I wanna have a doggo in general, but, when I have children I defo want my child to have a doggo bff

[untold copper]

if he bullies you you can bully him more

[nova plume]

I don’t remember anything but my parents said it was a Labrador now I want a Labrador

[visual egret]

nononononoo

because parents have bias

[untold copper]

lol

[golden gust]

My grandparents had a black labradour (maccy), and I don't know what the other breed was

[visual egret]

we had a dog, it got lost somewhere, we got a gerbil, it died, now we have a cat

[nova plume]

Labradors or huskies are the best dogs

[untold copper]

the hell man

take care of your pets >:(

[visual egret]

ok tbf not our fault

[nova plume]

Lmao

[visual egret]

dog ran away but was under someone elses care

gerbil lived like a year older than they do on avg

[untold copper]

i am not convinced

[golden gust]

Labradors pretty much a fluffball of energy

[untold copper]

yes

agree

[golden gust]

Like, they kinda grow out of it when they grow up past being a puppo

[nova plume]

That’s kinda the reason why I want one

[golden gust]

But, even when he was getting to his prime I'd still chase him around the garden

[untold copper]

well, anyways

I go sleep as I have english test tomorrow

[nova plume]

sleep

gn

[untold copper]

yes

gn

[visual egret]

i still have easter break for a week

[nova plume]

same oskar

[untold copper]

we dont have easter here lol

[magic river]

Internet is worth every penny: ```
40 packets transmitted, 38 received, 5% packet loss, time 39112ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 30.775/400.379/2699.377/783.852 ms, pipe 3

[untold copper]

we do have holi to make up for it though

so I guess its fine

[visual egret]

what day did you leave on? i left on wednesday

[nova plume]

holi is the best

[untold copper]

you ever played?

[nova plume]

i think yh same wednesday

[untold copper]

I haven't played holi in like 3 years, this one included

[nova plume]

the last time i went to india was when i was in yr 3 (work age out) and it was fun

[untold copper]

stupid covid

[nova plume]

we were gonna go india last yr

[untold copper]

and in 2019 I didn't play cos I got a cold XD

[nova plume]

we had flights booked and everything

[untold copper]

oof sad

[nova plume]

cos we have oci (overseas citizen of india) no visa required

but then covid

[untold copper]

rup

gotta be missing that marvelous scorching india heat amirite

[golden gust]

god Amar, that reminds me of the days of being stuck on shitty ADSL

[untold copper]

random thought: I haven't had good lemonade in so long

[visual egret]

oh same

[golden gust]

We where with virgin media who are the only provider in the UK who do DOCSIS

[nova plume]

the school i go to, gonna refer to it as "school boys" (boys school if u hadnt worked out) kinda hard to talk to girls
theres a girls school really near, gonna refer to it as "school girls" (theyre the same name but just boys and girls)
i met a girl on the bus, and she has discord lets fuckingggg gooooooooooo
ive had a crush on her when i go on the bus since yr 8, im in yr 10 now

[nova plume]

yep

[visual egret]

cant wait for another wedding maybe they'll have some there

[untold copper]

make a move maybe perhaps possibly idk

[nova plume]

trying

[untold copper]

try harder

[nova plume]

sorry bossman

[untold copper]

ok I really need to sleep BAI

[nova plume]

gn

[untold copper]

I need muh 12 hours sleep yez

[nova plume]

cat why u typing an essay

[golden gust]

But, my birth giver didn't pay the bill in solong, and she had no interest in paying it, so, we ended up moving to like sky, now, joy with Sky is that they use BTs network, and we'd never had BT before, so, needed to get a line installed, and, so, basically, they wanted to hook us up to the pole in the back yard, but, there was a tree in the way, so, after a few weeks they hooked us to the pole which was literally in front of our neighbours house

[nova plume]

wait shit i need to do an econ essay i just remembered

[golden gust]

bearing in mind that this is a typical UK city, so, next door is literally like, next door and not some stupid distance away

That was K, but, then we moved, and went with talk talk, who< i think they got the name from how often you gotta talk talk to their customer support

[nova plume]

lmfao

we had sky but then they raised the price to like £60, so we switched to virgin cos dad wants to save money, now we've been having issues since day 1

[golden gust]

I think they sodded off talktalk as it was that trash, and so they went with sky, but, sky had some issues with the phone system, so, we couldn't use any of the on damnd stuff

*on demand stuff; for anything on demand, we literally had to contact sky to be like, "he we wanna watch X, can you beam it for us"

[nova plume]

like, today 4 times i was in a hypixel bedwars game and the internet died

[golden gust]

I needed a proper internet connection so ended up agreeing to get them to switch to virgin which was great, just, I did it with the agreement that they'd pay for it as talktalk or sky or whoever we where with at that point was having constant issues in general, but, she stopped paying and, just, bleh

See, Virgin is great, when it works well

[nova plume]

u know the best part, she's indian too

[golden gust]

Virgin is fucking ass at resolving any issues, however

[nova plume]

yh true

its good

but really unstable

then it dies

[wraith trail]

used to have telus, which better than shaw but still complete ass

[nova plume]

cos it tries to go too fast

[visual egret]

sky is ok

[wraith trail]

was paying 6x what I am now for awful service

[worn ember]

Epic gamer moment

[nova plume]

we've never had an issue with sky until they raised the price to £60

[golden gust]

issue is that outside of virgin, they all pretty much just use BTs aging copper network

Now, BT is actually slowly working on a project to get rid of the old phone service and move everything to digital

[worn ember]

only virgins use optic fiber amirite

[golden gust]

Buuut, we'll see how that goes

using optic fibre

kek

[nova plume]

istg its fibre optic

[golden gust]

We don't do that in the UK

best we have is FTTC pretty much

[worn ember]

no its optic fibre

[golden gust]

virgin is FTTC

so is BT

[nova plume]

whats fttc

[golden gust]

Final mile for virgin is DOCSIS

[worn ember]

.g fttc

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) Fiber to the x or fiber in the loop is a generic term for any broadband network architecture using optical fiber to provide all or part of the local loop used for last mile telecommunications. As fiber optic cables are able to carry much more data than copper cables, especially over long distances, copper telephone networks built in the 20th century are being replaced by fiber. FTTX is a generalization for several configurations of fiber deploy

[visual egret]

once BT is done, my speeds will be faster and cheaper righhhhtttttttttttttt?

[golden gust]

final mile for BT is adsl

[nova plume]

paperchan bot?

since when

[visual egret]

scissors is now paperchan

[nova plume]

oh

[worn ember]

the amount of times i inspect element in chrome to see my password for something is way higher than it should be xD

[nova plume]

lmao

[worn ember]

its still faster than going to the password vault

[nova plume]

do you not save it or smth, or do you think googles gonna steal it

[wraith trail]

why is the site displaying your password in the first place?

oh

[worn ember]

autofill

change the input type from password to text

and ez

[ashen cliff]

Or just remove the type.

[worn ember]

ig that works too

but i like my valid html

[golden gust]

BT

cheaper

kek

with the fact that they basically own open reach they're pretty much a monopoly

[nova plume]

yh

[worn ember]

you run a modpack and the modpack doesnt even load

[golden gust]

outside of Virgin and the odd company here and there which only cater towards apartments, like, you're stuck with BT or some amalgamation of it

hyperoptic where pretty okay, tbqh

[nova plume]

my house is quite small and with virgin it doesnt even cover the back of our garden

[golden gust]

But, they're pretty much only there for apparentment buildings

I've got their hub 2 and the range is "okay"

[worn ember]

i hate it when virgins dont cover the back of the garden

ok ill stop now

[golden gust]

Like it covers the whole flat but not too much further

when they where using netgear routers their range was better but honestly, the router generally seemed to crap itself and need constant reboots after like a year or so

[untold meadow]

unless you're lucky enough to live in one of the areas where the tories shoved a bunch of money in their mate's pockets to install full fttp

[golden gust]

then again, I've yet to have an ISP which offered a competent router

[nova plume]

our virgin router (cant remember the name) needs a reboot every 6 hrs otherwise it throws a tantrum

[untold meadow]

like im lucky enough to have 300mb/s for like £40 a month thanks to some shell company with i think 30 employees total

[golden gust]

hyperoptics was probably one of the decent ones, but, was still cheapo

[nova plume]

this is what i get

max ive ever gotten is 116

but it constantly wants to commit suicide

[untold meadow]

that upload is just insane

[golden gust]

was the cable already installed when you moved in?

[nova plume]

yh

[golden gust]

Like, we had some issues at once and when they fiiiinally replaced the cable it was resolved

[worn ember]

internet is a scam

[smoky python]

He be talking facts

[visual egret]

yeah we should just use dial up

easier

[nova plume]

and fax for printing ofc

[visual egret]

https://www.speedtest.net/result/11247355510 speed

[nova plume]

very speedi