general

[ancient bolt]

irrelevant

[golden gust]

I mean

[zealous wedge]

like i get the desire to do things in camera

[golden gust]

is it just not trimmed or what?

[zealous wedge]

but like editing is a thing

[magic river]

Apparently they actually framed their shots to use the full sensor and the original cut was literally cutting parts of the scenes out

[ancient bolt]

either film with a more modern aspect ratio in mind, or use different censors, or (etc etc)

[golden gust]

that'd dumb

[ancient bolt]

that's bad film directing

modern screens aren't 4:3

[magic river]

Snyder is kind of weird

[ancient bolt]

shooting to fill 4:3 is fucking stupid

[magic river]

Have you watched his other movies?

[zealous wedge]

nobody shoots for 4:3 unless they want their film to never be seen

[waxen panther]

my monitor is 21:9

its going to look terrible

[zealous wedge]

it's the opposite of the whole trend for wider films

[ancient bolt]

I got 2 hours into the snyder cut and turned it off

waste of my time

not interesting

[zealous wedge]

the trend that cinemas have been built for

the trend that monitors are in the direction of

pull out a CRT to watch it

[golden gust]

lol

[worn ember]

whole core team online poggies

[magic river]

His whole thing appears to be trying to capture comics and "graphic novels" on film in a way that will make other people love them as much as he does

[golden gust]

I mean, I get some of the perks of tryna keep the whole scene in the eyes

[ancient bolt]

our biology makes it so we are able to take in more detail and imagery on a horizontal axis

but I mean

fuck that I guess

[golden gust]

but, like, there comes a point where it's just shitty

[warm anchor]

We all know zzzCat basically dont sleep

[golden gust]

I mean, maybe I watched too much CRT in the past but I mean, 4:3 doesn't bother me too much

[worn ember]

ok mr beamer streamer

[warm anchor]

Ultrawide do be nice though.

[ancient bolt]

the aspect ratio itself doesn't bother me

[golden gust]

I mean, it's dumb and annoying as I don't wanna have to use the whole like video pane for watching

[worn ember]

i hate black borders

[magic river]

When I first saw it was 4:3 I thought I did something wrong

[golden gust]

There is a reason why action generally happens in the center of the screen

[warm anchor]

Yeah so if it's cut off, it will still works.

[ancient bolt]

it's releasing a movie that big (let alone a 4 hour movie) in 2021 where 4:3 is not a standard aspect ratio

[warm anchor]

I think LotR did that decades ago?

[ancient bolt]

which ends up giving people a worse experience since it effectively makes every shot smaller

[golden gust]

decades ago when 4:3 was standard

Like, films where often shot on film or on a wider sensor than the distribution media would allow

[waxen panther]

i have never seen a story as drawn out as the 3 hobbit films

[warm anchor]

Brocco skip class part (2?)

[waxen panther]

those fuckers could've been one film

[golden gust]

it's why we sometimes get to see HD re-releases of shit we saw in static

[ancient bolt]

yeah trying to invoke LotR means huge scale and incredible scenes, not artificially limiting yourself to the technology standards of that time lol

[waxen panther]

still havent started my essay eternity

[worn ember]

yes

[warm anchor]

gamer moment

[worn ember]

Mortal Engines shouldve been 3 movies instead of 1 and the hobbit shouldve been 1 instead of 3

[magic river]

Apparently the way most of the MCU is filmed you could crop it to 4:3 and not notice

I guess I don't pay attention

[golden gust]

I'm so bad at watching movies I ain't even seen most of this stuff

[waxen panther]

makes sense, you want important stuff to happen in the middle third anyway right

[golden gust]

LOTR was put on once and I tried to watch it, but I got the attention spam of a OH SQUIRREL!

[waxen panther]

I only recently watched all the lotr stuff

[magic river]

LOTR you really need to be baked to watch

[zealous wedge]

MCU is made to make money, you want it to look acceptable on whatever monitor viewers might have

[waxen panther]

my dad told me never to watch it growing up but my uni friends wanted me to watch it

[ancient bolt]

cat how do you write code

[waxen panther]

cat writes code?

[ancient bolt]

allegedly

[golden gust]

I mean, I have fatigue issues right now, so, erm... fun...

But, basically, it takes me 20 minutes to get into the goove and like, depending on the day, either 2 minutes or 2 hours later, I realise that I'd better get something to eat or drink

[ancient bolt]

sounds like me

basically why i can never get anything done

[worn ember]

whenever i need to do something thats hard or outside my comfort i get up and walk around a bit, change music, watch some yt, then try again and rinse and repeat

my days are very productive

[formal turret]

relatable

[golden gust]

I just want the pandemic to fuck off so I feel more comforable walking around aimlessly and shit

Like, go to the park

[magic river]

I end up just finding a new web serial to binge instead

[golden gust]

have a cup of coffee

without being swatted

[waxen panther]

how bad is it where you are cat

not in terms of rules but cases

[ancient bolt]

so y'all are all telling me I should quit coding and buy a farm

[waxen panther]

thats the dream

[magic river]

I got my own 20 oz coffee shop cups with the lids and cardboard holders just so I could feel like I went out and got a drink 😛

[golden gust]

Over in my area it seems to be kinda good, like, we had some worries earlier in the year but I think that was more just the typical uni student flow bs

lol

[magic river]

I don't even drink coffee but a latte or hot chocolate can be good sometimes

[waxen panther]

theres barely any cases where i am thankfully

[warm anchor]

yall EU people got real lockdown.. here in US, you do whatever the fuck you wish still lol

[waxen panther]

im in south west though

[golden gust]

my mates self isolating and I ain't spoken to her in a while, and she's got HS so it kinda makes stuff a PITA, but, I defo wanna try and take her to a coffee shop or something once pandemic is over

[spare venture]

US never actually had a real lockdown in most states

[golden gust]

We're slowly coming out of it in the UK, but, we'll see, we're expecting a 3rd wave and if they extend the lockdowns I swear to god imma scream

[warm anchor]

Yup lol

[spare venture]

starting today anyone in my state over 16 can get vaccinated

[magic river]

Ohio?

[warm anchor]

fun

[spare venture]

yup

[magic river]

I got an email about that from work, jealous

[warm anchor]

party do you guys really eat corn everyday there?

[spare venture]

too bad im moving to washington

no

[modest path]

living in ohio :0

[spare venture]

but i did eat corn for dinner tonight

[warm anchor]

LOL

[magic river]

Iowa is the corn place

And I'm sick of corn

[spare venture]

that's funny because i haven't eaten corn since fall

[warm anchor]

ohio is also the corn place

[modest path]

eat corn flour

[golden gust]

try being a council estate brit

[spare venture]

there is a lot of corn in the midwest

[ancient bolt]

honestly I'm forgetting what these names ever meant to begin with

[golden gust]

am fucking done with potatos

[warm anchor]

They also got nothing to do so they are REALLY INTO FOOTBALL

[spare venture]

yes

[modest path]

hypo hydrate

[golden gust]

Like, I love french fries, but, potatoes in general, just, too much

[spare venture]

go tOSU

[ancient bolt]

it's how I remember to drink water

[waxen panther]

sports woooo!!!!

[spare venture]

knew one of you fuks was gonna do some dumb shit like that^

[warm anchor]

LOL

[magic river]

OSU lost first round

[spare venture]

yeah we fucking suck

to oral roberts lmao

[worn ember]

[spare venture]

we were not a good team, we just played out our ass toward the end

[magic river]

Iowa got styled on today though so... yikes

Iowa was trying to win the game, Oregon was trying to see who could get the most dunks

[tribal flicker]

I just lost

🤡

[modest path]

rip

[ancient bolt]

intellij's reader mode setting doesn't respect editor font 😦

and idk how to set the font on rendered documentation

[warm anchor]

I feel that more people are following sports now coz of covid lol

[spare venture]

yeah oregon were playing out of their ass

couldnt compete with that

[magic river]

Aww, the company I ordered my coils from shut down

Like, I must have had one of their last orders, it doesn't even arrive until tomorrow

Makes sense though, starting next month they can't ship that stuff anymore and it's an online store so...

[pastel pivot]

RIP if you don't have a backup because the world files are most certainly irreparable corrupted.

I was in a similar situation a while ago, when I tested some stupid shit on my server, "luckily" I had a backup which was "only" a few hours old.

Nevertheless some players were pretty upset.

[spare venture]

That sucks

[brave radish]

waiiittt I forgot it existed for two minutes :(

[feral locust]

Is is possible to fix RNG Enchantment by any plugin?

[tribal flicker]

It was actually fine, the world loads normally and I did have some backups just in case

[spare venture]

IllegalStack has a fix for this

[umbral flax]

hey,
does anyone by chance know any shortcuts I can take for writing long lists of numbers instead of typing them one by one
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/309169696215924736/823752926467325952/unknown.png
idk if excel will work or any other number program

[golden gust]

I mean, if you can use git bash

for f in {1..100}; do echo $f; done

[umbral flax]

no idea what that is

[golden gust]

echo " $f:";

[umbral flax]

also needs to be able to do calculations

[golden gust]

erm, you could maybe see if excel will let you copy as text? 🤷‍♂️

erm

define 'calculations'

[brave radish]

I mean

https://numbergenerator.org/numberlist/1-10000

[golden gust]

am guessing that you're not a dev then

[brave radish]

can just put it range and copy

[umbral flax]

ex like: 1: '0.5' 2: '1.0' 3: '1.5'

[golden gust]

erm, excel would work, you just gotta coax it to format stuff like that

bash would work too but that's just more fun

what are you even tryna do?

[cunning raft]

@spare venture friend request pls

[brave radish]

.wa test

[cunning raft]

use google

[brave radish]

hm not a thing ok

.g test !wa

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=test

(DiscordBot) Definitions: 1 | verb | put to the test, as for its quality, or give experimental use to 2 | verb | test or examine for the presence of disease or infection 3 | verb | examine someone's knowledge of something 4 | verb | show a certain characteristic... - https://is.gd/NzIyUZ

[umbral flax]

zzzCat, tryna make a tokenenchant menu

the enchantment has 10,000 levels lmao

[brave radish]

you just wanna write 1-10,000 in a text file?

[umbral flax]

thats what im tryna avoid lmao

[brave radish]

go to the link I sent (https://numbergenerator.org/numberlist/1-10000) and hit download?

[livid wren]

for i in {1..5}; do echo $i: $(( $i*0.5 )); done

1: 0.5
2: 1.
3: 1.5
4: 2.
5: 2.5

[brave radish]

oh that downloads as csv so copy/paste

[livid wren]

little goofy... but yeah

oh yes...

❯ for i in {1..5}; do echo $i: $(printf "%.1f" $(( $i*0.5 ))); done
1: 0.5
2: 1.0
3: 1.5
4: 2.0
5: 2.5

this works, I guess

[brave radish]

^

[brave radish]

^

[livid wren]

Hey, I still had fun coming up with that

[brave radish]

lol

[livid wren]

Bash is fun to play with 😩

[golden gust]

there's probably like plotting tools which can let you generate that type of stuff

question is is how do they let you dump it out, etc

[livid wren]

Meh, could even learn something like Python for things like this

[golden gust]

not much point if the tool means that now you gotta like spend a whole day fixing the formatting

eventually you get to the point where it's easier to just write some crappy hack-together for this type of stuff

[livid wren]

I should use bash more tbh

I only started messing with it yesterday

learned all kinds of cool little things, though

[brave radish]

first shell or what did you use before?

[livid wren]

wot

[waxen panther]

zsh homies

[livid wren]

:D

[brave radish]

zsh cuz apple no like licenses

[autumn glen]

Reading through my timings report I see that "Server Oversleep" is taking most of my tick %, anyone knows what this means?

[brave radish]

#paper-help and post link

[livid wren]

Oh, did you mean the shell I was using

[brave radish]

yeah as in is bash your first shell and, if not, what was?

or, rather

what was your last one?

[livid wren]

Bash is kind of everyones first shell

but I'm using zsh now

but I meant using bash as in the scripting language, not the shell

[brave radish]

same thing?

[livid wren]

Is it?

I wouldn't know

[pallid shale]

Hello, what is the permission to use items, because when a user of mine is going to use an item, he gets that he does not have permission

[golden gust]

that's on your plugins

[waxen panther]

sounds like some weird plugin

use lp verbose

[brave radish]

and don't cross post. I know there was another conversation going on but still

[livid wren]

sounds kinda like WorldGuard

[limber knot]

.ncp

.addcmd ncp https://github.com/Updated-NoCheatPlus/NoCheatPlus

[void void]

does anyone know how to allow a plugin through hibernate?

figured it, nvm

[modest path]

.ncp

[limber knot]

https://github.com/Updated-NoCheatPlus/NoCheatPlus

[modest path]

.addcmd crying crying

[void void]

this 5ghz i9 is blazing fast

what was i waiting on

[graceful token]

uh oh i got a bot from this server messaging me

[spiral robin]

uh oh

[graceful token]

who do i contact to report the bot

[golden gust]

we just had an attack, seems like it was dealt with but these bots are fast

[livid wren]

huh, I got nothing

[swift grotto]

/report

!report

-report

.report

nvm

[livid wren]

Mr. Sir

[graceful token]

bruh wyd

[potent fossil]

wants to report
instead of simply doing it, spams random commands to see if one works

[graceful token]

zzzcat would u like screenies

[spiral robin]

@potent fossil

[golden gust]

if the bot is still in here, feel free to provide a screenshot and the clients ID

[spiral robin]

[swift grotto]

well how do i do it

[potent fossil]

galaxy (and i cannot exaggerate this enough) BRAIN.

[golden gust]

But, 99% chance they've already been booted and not something I wanna spend my time on

[livid wren]

They don't look to be in this server

[spiral robin]

that was a joke

it was cat

[livid wren]

oh

[swift grotto]

im reporting Tiny#7761

[livid wren]

[graceful token]

still says i have mutual server tho so

[golden gust]

they've already been booted

the client doesn't update too well

[livid wren]

Ctrl + R

[golden gust]

if you refresh it might show that they've gone already

[graceful token]

i think u are right that was hella fast

chilly

spooky dark magics in place here

[autumn glen]

Get exposed

@lethal tulip

ah yes, a coordinated attack

[upper flicker]

already banned

[old ingot]

Same I had that too

[autumn glen]

lol

[old ingot]

I was about to rant about it

[upper flicker]

bots doing battle but sometimes they get the DMs off before they get banned

[autumn glen]

lmfao

[upper flicker]

not much we can do about that sadly, can disable DMs for users on this server if it helps

[coarse lily]

Hello Z750 you seem like a nice fellow

[upper flicker]

you must be new here

[ancient bolt]

unclear if this is being too paranoid

private static <T, V> void append(
    final @NotNull T base,
    final @NotNull V value,
    final @NotNull Function<T, List<V>> getter,
    final @NotNull BiConsumer<T, List<V>> setter
) {
    final List<V> existing = getter.apply(base);
    if (existing != null) {
        try {
            existing.add(value);
        } catch (final Exception ignored) {
            final ArrayList<V> newList = new ArrayList<>(existing);
            newList.add(value);
            setter.accept(base, newList);
        }
    } else {
        final ArrayList<V> newList = new ArrayList<>();
        newList.add(value);
        setter.accept(base, newList);
    }
}

[coarse lily]

Do you like . . . tacos?

[upper flicker]

am pro taco yes

[golden gust]

"Literally hitler" ~ Some guy

[coarse lily]

Excellent let's be friends.

[upper flicker]

.tacos

[limber knot]

🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮

[coarse lily]

I should have had tacos for dinner

But I ordered delivery from this fantastic burger place.

[spiral robin]

z750 sucks

[upper flicker]

that's kinda messed up

[livid wren]

are they wrong?

[upper flicker]

depends on the day

[livid wren]

Sunday

[upper flicker]

theyre wrong on sundays

[livid wren]

Phew. Praise the lord

[left swift]

What about tomorrow

[waxen panther]

[livid wren]

tomorrow is... Tuesday

is that a holy day around here

all the tacos...

[golden gust]

We;re not that crazy about tacos

[upper flicker]

speak for yourself cat boi

[golden gust]

But, like, the first time I had taco's I felt that I had found god

So, yes, tuesday is a holy day here

[livid wren]

preach brother

[coarse lily]

Haha

[left swift]

Tacos are a myth fabricated by BigBurrito to sell more mountain dew baja blast

[golden gust]

!ban @left swift well, you can fuck right off

[waxen panther]

[left swift]

You can't suppress the truth! The people must know!

[merry talon]

I wonder if these bots filter out people with roles

[left swift]

Probably

[golden gust]

still just waiting for the day that doesn't work 😄

[livid wren]

banned for blasphemy

imagine

[celest coyote]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-03-23/microsoft-said-to-be-in-talks-to-buy-discord-for-more-than-10b

[waxen panther]

well

[coarse lily]

Hah

[waxen panther]

out of all the major companies m$ is probably the least annoying person to buy

[golden gust]

oh god

[coarse lily]

I didn't I said it might be MS?

[golden gust]

Why have I seen this before...

[potent fossil]

so finally a good reason to leave discord and move paper to matrix or something

[golden gust]

Well

why am I getting deja vu...

I mean

We're happy on IRC

[blissful rock]

Yo can someone on the Core team DM me?

[waxen panther]

yes

[golden gust]

Just, community uses discord and we, erm, accidently...

[potent fossil]

i too am fine with irc

[coarse lily]

They won't unless you elaborate.

[waxen panther]

matrix looks dumb

[minor badge]

hey cat wanna DM on jabber? x

[potent fossil]

matrix is pretty cool

[blissful rock]

Need to report something that I don't want to make public right away

[zealous wedge]

hey proxi wanna icq me

[waxen panther]

imagine a world !!!

where people could send messages instantly!!

[coarse lily]

proxi please send me a singing telegram.

[minor badge]

[nocturne summit]

You guys kick that spammer alrdy?

[blissful rock]

I'd open a discord ticket here if I could

[ancient bolt]

remember the last time discord had a net split?

I mean discord has outages

but it doesn't have net splits

[celest coyote]

whats a net split?

[zealous wedge]

are you trying to report a dupe or something?

[potent fossil]

it's selfhosted decentralized & federated e2e IM

[minor badge]

we autobanned a lot of bots a few ago, Eric

[livid wren]

Speaking of IRC... I wonder if I should try it

[limber knot]

it's quite cozy!

[livid wren]

Time to Google "how 2 irc"

[coarse lily]

Sshhhhh zml

[celest coyote]

lets just communicate on blockchain

[potent fossil]

IRC is a gateway drug

[celest coyote]

every message is 10000$

[untold copper]

discord > irc

[warm anchor]

Imagine needing Microsoft account to signup for discord

[livid wren]

welp

I went to the wrong place

[limber knot]

how many dead trees per message

[livid wren]

https://www.rescue.org/

[potent fossil]

anything in the world, at all, ever > snoopa

[untold copper]

smh

[limber knot]

irc.esper.net#paper lol

[livid wren]

welp idk how to use IRC

[potent fossil]

lol

[livid wren]

Could swear Xubuntu came with something IRC related

oh yes. Pidgin, found it

[potent fossil]

im sure it comes with a client, but you still need to know how to log into the irc server with it lol

[livid wren]

yep I'm lost

[warm anchor]

While we are on this

[minor badge]

pidgin is a jabber client afaik

[untold copper]

I tried kiwi irc once

[limber knot]

pidgin has an irc plugin

[untold copper]

am still confusion

[limber knot]

it supports many things

[minor badge]

ic

[warm anchor]

Any good irc app for iOS?

[limber knot]

everything supported by libpurple

[limber knot]

you want some sort of bouncer eternit

[minor badge]

is my zml supported ? 🥺

[limber knot]

libpurple-zml

[warm anchor]

I see. Too late now but I will do some research then

[livid wren]

tbh a TUI IRC client sounds fun

I wonder if those exist

[limber knot]

they do :)

[livid wren]

oh yes I found one called "BitchX"

[limber knot]

weechat is a thing

[minor badge]

@coarse lily spreading propaganda again?

[coarse lily]

About which bit?

[golden gust]

I mean, people connect to IRC by emulating a terminal to like a teletype

[left swift]

Wait what doesnt Microsoft already own skype?

[minor badge]

BitchX :p

[coarse lily]

I mean, yes. But what specifically this time?

Haha

[minor badge]

it does, nomana

[coarse lily]

:)

[golden gust]

IRC protocol is pretty simple if not a total bitch to work with

[left swift]

Oh god they're going to merge Skype and discord

[subtle gale]

Is the DM spam reports channel gone? where should I submit a report?

[golden gust]

I don't know a single person who works on something with IRCs protocol that's happy, especially client stuff

[warm anchor]

Discord is more like teams tbh

[golden gust]

the bots have been dealing with bots automagically

[minor badge]

most likely; just post a screenshot and we'll handle it

[limber knot]

bitchX++

https://i.imgur.com/DkHHhL6.png isn't it fun :)

[golden gust]

sometimes a DM gets by, if they're still in the discord feel free to report it but 🤷‍♂️

[left swift]

Does the bot get the dm and ban them?

[livid wren]

Oh lord this is so confusing

[subtle gale]

should I post a screenshot in this channel or somewhere else?

[minor badge]

sure

[subtle gale]

User ID 823572624370040892

[warm anchor]

Make sure to CTRL+R if you are on PC

[golden gust]

already banned

[warm anchor]

To make sure bot isn’t already banned ^

[subtle gale]

oh i see! sorry

[minor badge]

thanks for reporting them ;)

[left swift]

Brocc is cool

[waxen panther]

i am ? 😳

[coarse lily]

Yes

[left swift]

No get pranked haha

[subtle gale]

I could totally be wrong -- but from my point of view, Microsoft has kept running their acquisitions over the last ~6 years mostly separated and haven't tried to mess with them too much (see: Minecraft, GitHub, etc)

[left swift]

Jk double pranked ur cool

[waxen panther]

😔

[golden gust]

Hopefully they've learned their lesson

[coarse lily]

At the moment it's just a rumor.

Discord could be not up for sale, or could get bought by someone else. Who knows?

[left swift]

They should combine all of their services into one

[warm anchor]

Buying discord is good coz of all those 12 years old on the platform now will be their main customer in next decade

[subtle gale]

I remember that when Microsoft bought GitHub everyone freaked out, but mostly positive things have happened to GitHub since then (for example, more features are free, such as private repos)

Last time I checked Discord isn't fully profitable yet from Nitro revenue unless that changed. But they have a ton of capital from their crazy fundraising

[waxen panther]

they're still very not profitable

[livid wren]

my brain hurts

[golden gust]

free kinda makes sense

especially as gitlab started to pose a realistic threat towards them

[warm anchor]

No one knows because they didn’t release any data

[golden gust]

what people use in their free time is generally what they recommend for new stacks at work

[livid wren]

#paper: Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services

\😢

[coarse lily]

RIP

[limber knot]

gotta /msg nickserv register first

[coarse lily]

^

[limber knot]

it's an antispam thing

[golden gust]

need to register/auth with nickserv ^^

[limber knot]

Keeps most of the riff raff out.

[golden gust]

good mechanism for aiding with spam and keeping dum people out

Apparently to limited effectiveness, but, better than nothing

[limber knot]

ooomg hai der

See it doesn't work.

There's riff raff.

[left swift]

Fake cat

[limber knot]

o/

o_o

[livid wren]

wait why's mine got the profile pic but not y'all \😩

am I high

[limber knot]

cat why are you in #syscraft-mc but not #syscraft?

it matches based on discord nickname

[golden gust]

shows here, but, it matches up

[livid wren]

oh, I see

how wack

[golden gust]

I mean, I didn't know that was a channel

[limber knot]

because my discord nick isn't the same as my irc nick and Z750 won't add support for better matching :(

That's off-topic anyway. Probably for the best.

[golden gust]

i generally sorta shy away from the socials

[coarse lily]

I heard Z750 said "I won't change that because I hate other people whose name begins with z"

[golden gust]

Coz, then I end up being social

[upper flicker]

better is pretty opionated

opinionated

jeez its late

[golden gust]

and then sometimes I be bad

But, I always spread love

.catlove

[coarse lily]

Ha

[limber knot]

https://i1.theportalwiki.net/img/9/99/GLaDOS_potatos_cave_deathspeech_reactions10.wav

[coarse lily]

Risky click.

[ancient bolt]

java ur dumb

can't name a method extends

[waxen panther]

[golden gust]

lol

[ancient bolt]

so I can't do thisMethod.extends(thatMethod)

[limber knot]

now does your discord client do this? :p https://i.imgur.com/Mg9eJ2i.png

[ancient bolt]

isExtends doesn't sound right

doesExtend isn't the proper Java Bean format

[waxen panther]

it does with mp3s

[golden gust]

doesItExtend

ez

runs

[ancient bolt]

best I can think of is to inverse the relationship and do isExtendedBy

[upper flicker]

extenderinos

[coarse lily]

No but neither does my IRC client, zml.

[limber knot]

My IRC client doesn't even know what emojis are.

AS IT SHOULD BE

[golden gust]

Kashike is our local "name stuff" person

[ancient bolt]

@cosmic raft

[golden gust]

His effectiveness is... questionable..

but, he's the better one 😄

[cosmic raft]

hm?

[limber knot]

isExtending?

[ancient bolt]

remember when my intellij plugin was called MDIP

[limber knot]

Lord, this is so confusing... but it's kinda cool

[cosmic raft]

doesExtend is what I would use

[ancient bolt]

ugh BREAKING THE RULES

[cosmic raft]

java beans are dead

[ancient bolt]

areExtends

[golden gust]

brb, getting a thesarus

[ancient bolt]

literally false

[cosmic raft]

their are know rules

[ancient bolt]

but yeah for this application it's fine

[golden gust]

You know the rules

[ancient bolt]

and so do I

[limber knot]

dang it. I was gonna say that :cry:

[upper flicker]

A full commitment's what I'm thinking of

[limber knot]

oh right

[ancient bolt]

default boolean couldExtend(final @NotNull MethodData that, final @Nullable ClassDataProvider provider) {
    if (!this.name().equals(that.name())) {
        return false;
    }
    if (!this.descriptor().matches(that.descriptor())) {
        return false;
    }
    if (provider == null) {
        return true;
    }
    try {
        final ClassData thisReturn = provider.findClass(this.returnType());
        final ClassData thatReturn = provider.findClass(that.returnType());
        if (thisReturn != null && thatReturn != null) {
            return thisReturn.doesExtend(thatReturn);
        } else {
            return true;
        }
    } catch (final IOException ignored) {
        return true;
    }
}

[swift root]

you wouldn't get this from any other bean

[ancient bolt]

doesExtend works fine

[upper flicker]

I just wanna tell you how I'm feeling

[swift root]

gotta make you... bean?

[upper flicker]

Never gonna give up beans

[swift root]

never gonna bean you down!

[upper flicker]

Never gonna run around and de-bean you

[swift root]

never gonna tell a bean

[upper flicker]

Never gonna say good bean

[limber knot]

Oh, this is weird... that code block is a paste link D:

[ancient bolt]

blame Z

[upper flicker]

IRC doesnt do blocks

[ancient bolt]

he doesn't believe IRC is capable of text blocks

[upper flicker]

lest you wanna flood the entire channel

[golden gust]

it was either that or we flood the irc

[swift root]

never gonna tell a lie and bean you!

[upper flicker]

and the queues at that

[ancient bolt]

flooding IRC is what made IRC great

[upper flicker]

We've known each bean for so long

[ancient bolt]

that and the aforementioned netsplits

[limber knot]

I R C

R R

[coarse lily]

Good ol' netsplits.

[limber knot]

C C

I S

S S

G R E A T !

R R

E E

A A

T T

[swift root]

Your bean's been aching but you're too shy to bean it

[limber knot]

! !

[waxen panther]

zml has been banned

[limber knot]

sir

lol

[golden gust]

god

[coarse lily]

z you're in the wrong Discord for that

[limber knot]

zml has been muted for exceeding the rate limit (5/3s)

[golden gust]

I miss the days somebody would accidently pasted an image into IRC and we'd need to mute them for 20 minutes so they'd stop flooding the channel

[limber knot]

lool

[coarse lily]

Haha

"I'm gonna base64 encode a dick pic and send it to the channel"

[limber knot]

o_o

we should all run VoIRC in here :)

[coarse lily]

Hell no.

[limber knot]

lol

[ancient bolt]

what are the performance implications of recursive try-catch blocks?

default boolean doesExtend(final @NotNull ClassData that) {
    if (this.equals(that)) {
        return true;
    }
    try {
        final ClassData superClass = this.superClass();
        if (superClass != null) {
            return superClass.doesExtend(that);
        }
    } catch (final IOException ignored) {
        return false;
    }
    return false;
}

[potent fossil]

im pretty sure that happened to me like 15 times

[golden gust]

Pretty sure I remember you being a frequent offender

[potent fossil]

it wasn't on purpose lmao

[ancient bolt]

I miss the days when someone would accidentally type a password into IRC and there was literally no way to delete it

[upper flicker]

that and people copy pasting entire text files in

[limber knot]

heh

[potent fossil]

that happened to me, too

[limber knot]

i've done that

just gotta change your passwords then

[potent fossil]

Aikar had to contact me about it

[ancient bolt]

I had to reset my passwords like once a year back when I was in IRC

[warm anchor]

That literally happened last week in #paper-help

[ancient bolt]

hasn't been a problem since I've been on discord

[upper flicker]

||hunter2||

[coarse lily]

Like hunter2?

Damn it Z beat me to it.

[limber knot]

oh yeah eternity i saw that

[coarse lily]

In Discord people post API keys and other random passwords.

So they still leak all kinds of shit.

[limber knot]

it was hilarious because they were trying to get someone to delete the link to the irc log

[coarse lily]

I've definitely typed a root password into an IRC window by accident once.

Window focus! Woo!

[warm anchor]

Michael bully

[livid wren]

IRC's hard to follow \😩

maybe it's my font

[limber knot]

YOURE HARD TO FOLLOW!

make sure you have nick colouring on, it makes it way easier

[livid wren]

oh

nick coloring?

[ancient bolt]

makes sense to me. Without the log IRC chats are like 2 ships meeting in the middle of the ocean https://youtu.be/O2rGTXHvPCQ

I've had kash delete a password from IRC for me once :p

[upper flicker]

delete

[limber knot]

lol demon

still in the logs of everyone else in the channel

you just have to hope nobody cares enough to try to get into your things

[ancient bolt]

yeah but everyone else's client isn't on the internet

I mean, that password is long gone by now

but yes

[coarse lily]

IRC is how hackers talk when they don't wanna be overheard!

[upper flicker]

probably his root password now or something

[potent fossil]

lmao that episode demon

[coarse lily]

"Luckily I speak leet". This is terrible.

[livid wren]

what the heck

Surely people don't actually l33t speak

[upper flicker]

this is how the rest of the world sees you

👀

[limber knot]

people speak 1337 h4x0r as a meme

hopefully nothing else

[livid wren]

imagine

[coarse lily]

Even in the heyday of "leet speak" people very rarely used it.

And didn't do whole sentences unless they were 10 and trying to look coo

(I'm old)

[livid wren]

Fu|\||\|y

[limber knot]

or if they were trying to horrify a whole channel

[ancient bolt]

1 [)0|V'7 X|V0\/\/ \/\/|-|47 70(_)'23 741X1|V9 480(_)7, 7|-|15 15 |\/|7 |*23|=3223[) |\/|37|-|0[) 0|= 77|*1|V9.

[livid wren]

Mr. Sir

[ancient bolt]

10 points to anyone that can decode that

same message, more L337'ified:

! |)[]|\|''|' |<|\|[]\|/ \|/#/-\'|' `/[]|_|'/2[- '|'/-\|_|<!|\|(_+ /-\|3[]|_|'|', '|'#!$ !$ /\/\`/ |>/2[-|=[-/2/2[-|) /\/\[-'|'#[]|) []|= '|'`/|>!|\|(_+.

[coarse lily]

Heh

I don't know what you're talking about

This is my . . . preferred?

Method of typing.

Fuck.

[ancient bolt]

impressive

[coarse lily]

I said I was old.

[livid wren]

Jeez, all I got was "I don't know what"

[potent fossil]

https://static.jacobandersen.dev/shared/🦆⛄️🐽🛎🔮.png

from that numbers clip lmao

[coarse lily]

Haha

BRING IT

They're in #channel

on IRC.

[upper flicker]

wasnt this the same show that used a power supply for a clip where they were supposed to be seizing a hard drive

[coarse lily]

Maybe I should be 00zemeister from now on.

[upper flicker]

you gotta appreciate the levity

[coarse lily]

Yeah I wonder if they're intentionally trolling.

[livid wren]

port 6667 \😩

[coarse lily]

Like "This is so dumb but the execs don't know it so fuck it"

Yeah 6667 is pretty common for IRC.

[potent fossil]

they actually got the right port there

[livid wren]

oh no

[coarse lily]

Too bad they didn't use a real channel name.

[livid wren]

the devil's chat

[upper flicker]

hackers not using encryption

smh

[coarse lily]

If it were like #leet_club we could make that on esper.

[potent fossil]

kekw

[limber knot]

that's why you've gotta use SSL

port 6697

[ancient bolt]

it's an intentional trope https://youtu.be/msX4oAXpvUE

[coarse lily]

But everyone knows the real IRC network is efnet.

[ancient bolt]

at least I hope so

[potent fossil]

that's my fav clip of them all, as cheesy as it is I love NCIS lmao

[upper flicker]

lmao you gotta wonder with that one

[ancient bolt]

NCIS is a good show

[coarse lily]

Is that the double keyboard one?

[golden gust]

QUICK

[upper flicker]

yes

[golden gust]

Fuck

[coarse lily]

Haha

[ancient bolt]

he's never seen code like this

[golden gust]

GET SOMEBODY ELSE ON THE KEYBOARD

[limber knot]

lol

[potent fossil]

yeah they do double keyboard a few times in the show lmao

[coarse lily]

I love it when the windows are all opening/closing constantly.

[ancient bolt]

good thing he unplugged the monitor tho so they can't see how bad they're getting 0\/\/n3d

[livid wren]

What did I just witness

[upper flicker]

me when I used to review premium plugins for spigot

[coarse lily]

Pair programming!

[golden gust]

lol

[waxen panther]

[golden gust]

"Why aren't my premium resorces getting approved?!?!?!!!"

cuts to Z sitting in a corner, rocking back and forth crying

[upper flicker]

its too late in the night to get into that rant

[ancient bolt]

I like this one https://youtu.be/rkx6Lz6rDNc

laptop in a faraday cage to prevent it from getting access to their network

but they use bluetooth keyboard and mouse through said faraday cage

[coarse lily]

The "the virus is in the electrical grid!" is my favorite type of computer tomfuckery in movies/TV

Good thing there's a Faraday cage.

[upper flicker]

usb power delivery foreshadowing

[coarse lily]

NCIS knew USB-C was coming before we did!

[upper flicker]

> laptop hacking their systems

> lights flashing

> alarms blaring

[coarse lily]

It ate through the firewall!

[upper flicker]

> no one shuts off the damn laptop

[coarse lily]

And got through the powercord!

Haha

They didn't learn from the first video!

[ancient bolt]

it's a laptop, but let's leave it plugged in

[livid wren]

are viruses not signals transmitted using electricity? \😩

[golden gust]

Hey, who knew it could use the DC jack as a headphone port

[upper flicker]

right up there with the recentish james bond where the dude plugs the laptop right into their network

gg Q, gg

[waxen panther]

what

[coarse lily]

I liked that one

"Oh no it's a virus"

Yeah maybe you shouldn't have plugged that in, genius.

[upper flicker]

Q did go and unplug it right away though

slightly better than NCIS ???

[coarse lily]

Slightly.

[upper flicker]

ever so

NCIS infinitely funnier though

[coarse lily]

Maybe people write that crazy nonsense so that idiots think computers can do that.

[livid wren]

what's with the cage around the laptop tho

[coarse lily]

Like in that Fast and the Furious movie when the bad guy writes a virus and it takes over the engine, brakes, etc of older cars that have no computers.

That's a good one.

[upper flicker]

its supposed to be a faraday cage

blocks RF signals

they use a wireless keyboard and mouse through it so

clearly doing really well

[coarse lily]

Maybe they're IR wireless!

[upper flicker]

dont go down that road

its only a matter of time before someone links the video of the irl data exfiltration using the hard disk activity light and a drone camera

[livid wren]

the wot

[coarse lily]

Haha

[upper flicker]

given an isolated system, someone made a proof of concept showing you could exfiltrate data using the activity LED on a computer and a drone outside a window

the actual transfer speed is pretty slow by modern standards, and you have to get it infected somehow

[coarse lily]

There's van eck prheaking, too.

Which is crazy shit

[upper flicker]

but it was just an interesting little thing

ye there's all sorts of things like that

[coarse lily]

IIRC there was someone who showed you could use Van eck phreaking to leak data being written.

That's the funny thing. There's a lot of really cool/crazy things that are real.

But a virus getting through a laptop power cord isn't one of them.

I liked how accurate Mr Robot was at times.

[upper flicker]

all sorts of fun stuff out there

[coarse lily]

Like when he dropped thumb drives in the parking lot and some rando picked it up and plugged it in because they were too curious.

[upper flicker]

lol yeah

[potent fossil]

yeah, that really showed me how fucking easy it is to build a small botnet lol. people will build it for you if you just go around dropping autorun usbs. now, not getting caught is another story

[olive garden]

"Plug into 3 more PCs to unlock the secret!"

[stiff yarrow]

someone link it

[merry talon]

unless it's some weird proprietary cord that does some kind of handshake to ensure it's a first-party charger

how surprising would such a thing really be in this day?

[coarse lily]

That's not really the same thing.

[waxen panther]

i mean

laptops with usb c charging

[vernal moth]

There are rumors that msft is buying discord

Maybe it will become actually good then

[waxen panther]

just like skype?

[vernal moth]

Meh, that's different

Msft is much different nowadays

Recent acquisitions have been great

[potent fossil]

mini are you a m$ simp

[waxen panther]

im joking, out of all the big companies m$ is the only one i wouldn't mind

like if epic games was going to buy it i'd alt f4 rn

[vernal moth]

Simple, do you want facebook to buy them? Lol

[coarse lily]

Facebook is the devil.

[vernal moth]

Epic I wouldn't mind either, they are a great company

[potent fossil]

i would prefer m$ over fb, i didnt know fb was on the table

[vernal moth]

Nobody and everybody is on the table

[coarse lily]

MS does a lot of weird things and I'm not sure I'd call them a "great company" but they're a fucking shitload better than Facebook.

Yeah it's all rumors.

So who knows.

[vernal moth]

But i can see facebook being interested

[coarse lily]

inb4 no one buys Discord and nothing changes.

[vernal moth]

Don't think discord can survive alone

[potent fossil]

if fb buys discord i will stop using discord lol

im not that attached :>

[vernal moth]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-03-23/microsoft-said-to-be-in-talks-to-buy-discord-for-more-than-10b

Imagine discord nitro and xbox game pass combining

That would make so much money

[potent fossil]

then we launch mc directly from discord

[waxen panther]

wouldnt mind that already paying for both anyway

[potent fossil]

Just saw this part, why not?

[vernal moth]

Shits expensive

[merry talon]

they tried that already

[vernal moth]

I mean, making discord an xbox game pass launcher doesn't sound terrible

[wide chasm]

Isn't Discord slowly moving away from purely focusing on gaming? Not sure if reintroducing games stuff directly in Discord again would be a good move.

[waxen panther]

it's supposed to be for everyone now yeah

most of their advertising now is for school stuff

[wide chasm]

inb4 Discord integration with Canvas

[vernal moth]

If they team up with mojang, teams would be the buisness part of the spectrum, and discord everything else

Everything that is fun is discord, everything that is work is teams

[coarse lily]

Mojang doesn't even work on anything else Microsoft.

So I doubt they'd team up with Mojang.

[quasi valley]

probably meant to say MS

[cosmic raft]

I'd love if Microsoft bought Discord

Microsoft is great compared to the alternatives, and Microsoft has been great with their stuff for a long while now

[wide chasm]

Do people even use Discord for business stuff? Cause Teams seems like a ten times better option for doing business on than Discord.

[olive garden]

the functional programming department at my uni uses Discord instead of MS Teams for some reason

but that's not really business

[cosmic raft]

I mean I'm sure some companies use Discord

If it works for them, no reason not to

[coarse lily]

MS Teams is pretty clunky

[olive garden]

it has very useful features though when it comes to education

[quasi valley]

slack ftw

[olive garden]

even if those features break half the time lol

[cosmic raft]

aaaaa

I run into an issue now

[olive garden]

run? don't

[cosmic raft]

Spring doesn't support the version of a dependency I need

x_x

fix it @vernal moth!

https://github.com/spring-projects/spring-boot/issues/12649

[olive garden]

oh I also had some issues with specific logging framework versions and spring versions not liking each other

[magic river]

Microsoft already tried Teams for work and Skype for play, Skype just died and Teams only survives because it comes with Office

[olive garden]

I don't know, I like teams and I think it's pretty good apart from all the bugs

what would we use instead?

[magic river]

Discord 😛

[olive marlin]

Teams is bad, but it has a few nice features making it nice for studying from home etc.

[magic river]

Or Skype

[olive marlin]

You can do all your assignments automatically there.

[olive garden]

Canvas ftw when it comes to that

Teams supports recording the meetings, it has a "raise hand" button, professors can download the participant list, the login can be tied into the university's login system and you don't have to accept invitations to be added to groups (teams)

all of these are very useful for education and aren't really present in alternatives afaik

[vernal moth]

With spring stuff, it's best to never bump dependencies of spring, else you just gonna cry

[cosmic raft]

I can't use spring then :P

[vernal moth]

Teams survives because it's the best product on the market rn

[waxen panther]

Sounds painful

[spiral robin]

broccolai pop quiz

How many hours of sleep in last 72 hours

[wide chasm]

I think Zoom supports those as well, only downloading the participant list I'm not sure of if it supports it.

[vernal moth]

Why do you need to bump that dep kash?

[magic river]

We made up a list at work of all the ways it was worse than Discord that we could think of after like 3 days of using it

[cosmic raft]

Because I'm running on Java 15 with a fully modular application

[vernal moth]

Zoom is really focused on video, that doesn't work for buisnesses

[cosmic raft]

and logback 1.3.0-alpha5 is required

same with jetty 11

[vernal moth]

Ah

Check if there's a spring beta maybe?

[cosmic raft]

wheee

Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: sun.misc.Unsafe

and it works so far

[spiral robin]

kash sleep

[cosmic raft]

no

[spiral robin]

ok.

[untold copper]

for the first time

i have gotten good blood test results

even my iron is right

nice

[olive garden]

congratulations

[untold copper]

thank yous

[golden gust]

Who do you think you are kidding, Mr Hitler?

[waxen panther]

[golden gust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bF6qElf9GJ8

[olive garden]

good morning to you too

[quasi valley]

amazing, cat

[cosmic raft]

...

[magic river]

After spending too much time in this chat now whenever I see people using "bro" too much I assume they're eastern european instead of assuming they're techbros or frat boys

In this case it's probably right since it's a discussion about CDPR

[golden gust]

:d

[waxen panther]

bro!

@meager tusk ?

[golden gust]

GJ AMARANTH

GJ

[magic river]

Need a bot that bans anyone who says it 😛

[waxen panther]

bro! wtf!

[magic river]

Anyone have experience with using PCI passthrough with an nvidia card?

Supposedly you can configure KVM to hide the fact Windows is in a VM from the nvidia driver, otherwise nvidia says you need a quadro card

[meager tusk]

Bro!

[magic river]

But I'm also seeing things about needing to patch the vbios and on newer cards I think those are signed so you can't patch them anymore

[ashen cliff]

You can still patch them, but you break trusted UEFI mode.

[magic river]

Probably easier to just run a Linux VM

[ashen cliff]

Tho, there are a bunch of thing you need to do to fool the driver. First, you disable the fact that Windows sees it's running in a VM.
If that doesn't do the trick, host CPU, ...

[magic river]

I want my desktop to do double duty as a server but it's probably easier to keep Windows as the host

Although I want the Linux part to also run VMs and containers so...

Apparently nested virtualization is either not bad or slow as hell depending on if Intel decided you needed it or not

AMD supports it efficiently on all CPUs, of course

[ashen cliff]

It works fine on Haswell-e... Can't say the same for Broadwell-e.

[vernal moth]

I tried years ago, it only caused pain, i gave up

Nowadays i don't have a igpu anymore so doesn't work obviously

[golden gust]

sounds like a simple solution, really

MOAR GPU!

[olive marlin]

My coworker did it a year ago or so. He concluded that it's nice, but it's too much work and he'd just rent some GPU server in the cloud next time.

[golden gust]

one of my post covid got a real job buys, I really wanna make like a server with a few dozen disks or something, just coz I accumilate so much crap and having decent storage which doesn't involve USB drives plugged into my iMac

but, then I was thinking about like, gaming, as I hate having to reboot and really need to consider getting an eGPU for gaming, which then it's like, puts me in the sorta realms of just throwing a GPU in a box in a few disks and an SSD and having a VM to boot windows with GPU passthrough

[waxen panther]

any g a m e r s ?

[olive garden]

yes sir

gotta get the adrenaline flowing so that I don't fall asleep during lectures

[magic river]

Some day I'm going to blow like $2000 on a NAS/general server for the house

[waxen panther]

i fall asleep in lectures because im gaming 😎

[magic river]

Several TB of storage, 64GB of RAM, a decent CPU, and some kind of GPU to do hardware accelerated video transcoding

Weird, Plex uses VA-API to work with Intel GPUs for transcoding but doesn't support AMD GPUs which also use VA-API

It's probably a handful of lines of code to support

[ashen cliff]

I'd buy some old enterprise disk shelves.

But everything non mainstream is a huge pain.

[twin lagoon]

@waxen panther

[waxen panther]

michael

[magic river]

Huh this came out cheaper than I expected, perhaps I should try to get something with ECC after all https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tXpHZZ

Oh I forgot the PSU, lol

Although getting ECC means getting an nvidia GPU so... maybe in a couple years

[left swift]

1200$ for a gtx 970

[void void]

i have 1 question

[untold copper]

BrO!

[woven otter]

only 1200$

[twin lagoon]

@meager tusk

[woven otter]

what a bargain

[twin lagoon]

https://www.equinix.com/services/edge-services/equinix-precision-time/?ls=Public Relations&lsd=21q1__platform-equinix+__pr-equinix_pr-newswire_press-release__us-en_AMER_Precision-Time-Service_awareness wtf is equinix smoking why would you ever need time as a service

[void void]

i have 1 question

[twin lagoon]

i have 1 question

[void void]

how to have verification badge in my chanel in twitch

[twin lagoon]

you become relevant

else, you don't get one

[magic river]

CockroachDB (and Spanner, which it's modeled after) rely on having very accurate time between servers

[twin lagoon]

well yes but why not just use a regular NTP server on all servers

lmao

[magic river]

Regular NTP isn't enough for Spanner, they invented their own system

[twin lagoon]

they also offer PTP

[magic river]

CockroachDB accepts a higher latency to function with regular NTP

https://cloud.google.com/spanner/docs/true-time-external-consistency

https://www.cockroachlabs.com/blog/living-without-atomic-clocks/

OK, back to Spanner and TrueTime. It’s important to keep in mind that TrueTime does not guarantee perfectly synchronized clocks. Rather, TrueTime gives an upper bound for clock offsets between nodes in a cluster. Synchronization hardware helps minimize the upper bound. In Spanner’s case, Google mentions an upper bound of 7ms. That’s pretty tight; by contrast, using NTP for clock synchronization is likely to give somewhere between 100ms and 250ms.

So how does Spanner use TrueTime to provide linearizability given that there are still inaccuracies between clocks? It’s actually surprisingly simple. It waits. Before a node is allowed to report that a transaction has committed, it must wait 7ms. Because all clocks in the system are within 7ms of each other, waiting 7ms means that no subsequent transaction may commit at an earlier timestamp, even if the earlier transaction was committed on a node with a clock which was fast by the maximum 7ms. Pretty clever.

[limber knot]

allowing it to potentially loose 7ms worth of data 👀

[magic river]

You can have up to 250ms of delay on a read in CockroachDB because of this

They don't delay writes, they retry reads if they got the timestamp wrong and something happened they should be including in this read

If you had more accurate clocks you could lower that upper bound

[cursive eagle]

Guys, I updated java on my pc from 8 to 11, but some applications requires JavaFX. Has anyone faced this problem?

[limber knot]

update them

[magic river]

https://gluonhq.com/products/javafx/

[cursive eagle]

java 15 ?

[limber knot]

no, the application to a version that is java 11 compatible

[magic river]

Oh you can't install JavaFX globally, can you?

At least, not trivially

[limber knot]

(or manually provide JavaFX to the application)

[cursive eagle]

i can

[magic river]

There is no installer here just SDKs

[limber knot]

this is how you can use it: https://blog.idrsolutions.com/2019/05/using-javafx-with-java-11/

[cursive eagle]

like java lib ?

[magic river]

You'd have to put them in the right location and/or modify your classpath manually

[cursive eagle]

thanks!

[limber knot]

but you really want to update your application or request one from the devs

[magic river]

Applications are supposed to ship their own copy of JavaFX now

[limber knot]

does anyhone here know a bot which can auto-detected outdated versions (ideally by parsing the pom or some other file) in new issues and comment/add labels based on that?

[worn ember]

i think you'll have to be the one to make that phoenix

[fluid elm]

hi

nvm gtg alreadyh

[waxen panther]

[worn ember]

[amber karma]

I've made a script that execute the start.sh but how can I do that the script closes the start.sh of minecraft after a couple of seconds?

[mossy vessel]

You made a script to run a script?

lol

[amber karma]

yes

[mossy vessel]

[amber karma]

It does more but thats the important part where I fail to stop the server in the script

[waxen panther]

lmao

[mental meadow]

Iirc the bot on the EngineHub discord bot does stuff like that based on the logs

[olive marlin]

Zkaan spawn the server in the background as a child.

./start.sh &
pid="${?}"
sleep 30s
kill "${pid}"

[worn ember]

no killing of children

[olive marlin]

Kill all the childs.

I'm not sure if you spawn it in background, then TCA might not enable and then won't handle signals gracefully.

So would need to test it. Might need to add trap to start.sh which will intercept the signal and send /stop to the server process.

Oh, remember to wait for the pid after sending interrupt signal.

[amber karma]

WARNING: timestamping does nothing in combination with -O. See the manual for details.
cause I get the jar with wget with -O cause otherwise its called download and not like a jar

[twin lagoon]

don't auto update

[olive marlin]

That is not related.

And that too.

Michale

[amber karma]

i know, only the script is so far automatic, after I test it I will run the script and move it do different folder cause that would cost too much time 😄

yeah but it doesnt stop 😄

i think cause it opens the screen in terminal so the script doesnt work

[olive marlin]

Zkaan screen should pass the interrupt, I think.

But what you can do, is add trap to start.sh listening to sigint, which will send it to process inside screen.

[amber karma]

hm okay then I must manually stop it :c so and how can I fetch the newest builds from jenkins? like essentials or other plugins cause in URL is a fixed path

[olive marlin]

Use the API.

#announcements

https://papermc.io/api/docs/

[amber karma]

nah not especial paper, like essentials and other plugin.

so generally for jenkins how I fetch it

[golden gust]

jenkins creates you a fixed path to the artifact

if the file name is unversioned, the link will always remain the same

[olive marlin]

Go to the job url in jenkins and add /api to the end of the url.

[golden gust]

otherwise you'll need to look at parsing the api endpoint

[waxen panther]

auto updating is bad 😭

[spare venture]

Unversioned jars are

[left swift]

Ur a versioned jar party

[amber karma]

nah it isnt auto updating xd I automate only backups and deleting log files

[olive marlin]

I have a PoC script which handles downloading from jenkins /gh/spigot/...

[spare venture]

[olive marlin]

Still need to fix installing it, cause for some reason it won't always install properly. But that's python for you lol

[spare venture]

nomana I need that emoji

[left swift]

Its from moonmoons twitch channel

[spare venture]

DM it to me? Pls

Mfw I can’t add you

And you can’t add me

Nvm then

[left swift]

Here ready

https://betterttv.com/emotes/60334fb57c74605395f32152

[spare venture]

Amazing thank you

[left swift]

I get my i99900k tomorrow and have my esea open playoffs on thursday

[warm anchor]

That’s a lot of 9s

[left swift]

One for each day of the week

[vernal moth]

Haha

Intel CPUs

In 2021

runs

[spare venture]

i bought an intel cpu

its nice

[left swift]

I was going to go amd when I first started planning my upgrades but just stuck with Intel

From i74790k to the i99900k

Ddr3 to ddr4 aswell

I'm pogging so hard

[void void]

9900k is a good cpu

Never had an issue with it

[next frost]

not 9900k, 99900k

[left swift]

I9-9900k

[spare venture]

How much was it nomana