Is this a joke?
#general
potent fossil
worn ember
No?
worn ember
It becomes an insult when you take offense to it
potent fossil
Holy fuck, man
cunning raft
worn ember
Bruh...
zealous wedge
at the very least it's unfunny and pointless
worn ember
I agree with that
modest path
eek
worn ember
Wouldn't call it an insult tho but whatever floats your boat.
potent fossil
sorry guys, i know it is very difficult to be a decent human. im asking too much. have had far too much internet today so have a great day, behave, and when mods decide to wake up they can just make the decision on their own.
zealous wedge
and i'm really struggling to think of any intended joke behind the image other than "haha gay"
modest path
that image originates from a video about the man shooting anvils into the sky
which i believe is the intended joke
sharp sentinel
But the caption to me indicates itβs the name
zealous wedge
yeah
spiral robin
@zealous wedge 
zealous wedge
@spiral robin 
modest path
why does putting spinach in things make them awful
like besides salads
i've just had a crepe with roast beef cheese and spinach, and one without
the one without was far superior
zealous wedge
spinach can be good when it's handled well
worn ember
No such thing as good spinach
worn ember
Just like salads. Just eat grass then
modest path
makes the food feel tough and chewy even when everything else isn't
worn ember
Grass has more flavor tbh
modest path
grass is a better alternative to spinach? lmao
worn ember
grass is a better alternative to spinach? lmao
Sure
It's kinda hard to digest tho i think
modest path
What's that tool called where u pick colors that look nice
brave radish
they can they just shouldn't use no point and bad for teeth
modest path
i'm trying to get my stylesheet to look good but apparently bright fucking red and blue don't go well together
modest path
nonono
the thing like
you choose red
it gives you
light red
maybe a yellow
an accented pink
i don't fucking know
brave radish
no clue what you're talking ab
dull linden
im dumb, what does the triage team do? :o
brave radish
confirm bugs
worn ember
i'm trying to get my stylesheet to look good but apparently **bright fucking red...
Happy hues
dull linden
o nice xd
modest path
yesss that's it
worn ember
I have a bunch of sites for design stuff but I'm on phone rn
modest path
let's try some new colors :>
worn ember
That's nsfw smh
brave radish
why the name change Nullable?
modest path
to annoy people?
worn ember
Yes
worn ember
It's just funny how easy it is
worn ember
Yes
worn ember
Is it tho
modest path
yes
worn ember
Looks purple to me
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/726407688879341661/822120202607001610/video0.mp4 also there's this amazing creation
worn ember
Lmao
cunning raft
burned down
spare venture
lmfao
potent fossil
YT music was just casually using 20% of my CPU sustained.
unkempt drift
its really good music
potent fossil
Not even playing music either.
unkempt drift
oh
cunning raft
chrome or yt music? lol
potent fossil
YT Music on Firefox.
warm anchor
TIL people actually use YT music app (?)
potent fossil
I was using it bc I have a browser extension to block its ads lol. But now it's randomly eating my CPU so I'm just gonna go back to Spotify.
warm anchor
I see.
potent fossil
I wouldn't put it behind Google to detect that browser extension and just busy wait.
potent fossil
aight im a spotify shill again
spare venture
spotify is nice
spiral robin
Hi
potent fossil
@spiral robin π
left swift
Simpuwu
potent fossil
nomana sexy
left swift
Down bad
I've spent so much money on spotify premium by now probably could've paid for my college tuition
Maybe not actually but still a lot
1.8k hours every year for past 3 years lel
potent fossil
i mean how much money are you spending
that's $360 if on the $9.99 sub for 3 yrs. Unless you're in a country where college is actually affordable then ok
left swift
Almost enough for a required textbook
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@potent fossil awa
potent fossil
It started epic and got really epic then really bad and now it is epic again .
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woa
left swift
Ur epic simp
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potent fossil
How are you mana and pwoxi? 
left swift
Same
potent fossil
bed for 5 more minutes and then work .
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no I gotta get ready π
left swift
waxen panther
left swift
Bro
waxen panther
Bro!
cosmic raft
hi
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cosmic raft
hai
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ocelot!
potent fossil
"sir your order fell into the ditch [on the side of the road]"
its ok thanks for telling me sir!
spiral robin
Hello
zealous wedge
@spiral robin hello
spiral robin
sooo nice yeah
zealous wedge
it was rainy though here :(
spiral robin
Started raining and light hail a lot around 830 tho
zealous wedge
oh, we didn't get hail lol
potent fossil
I wish aber and zml were here to cuddle .
spiral robin
π₯Έ
zealous wedge
smh just come to BC
zealous wedge
papermc_irl
spiral robin
Once things lighten up I'd like to meet some other BC or AB peeps from this community
spiral robin
coarse lily
It was nice in LA today.
visual egret
fun
potent fossil
k den fix it
restive saffron
wasn't it beautiful out today
Bro I thought it was booster only chat for a second with how many pink names I saw upon opening Discord
potent fossil
We just love Paper
restive saffron
Very nice, I love it aswell
ancient bolt
pink means they've been marked for bad behavior
cosmic raft
~limbo test @potent fossil
restive saffron
I wonder how laggy 1.17 shall be
potent fossil
wat
restive saffron
Or are they gonna make performance improvements
potent fossil
I'm not sure we know the answer to that yet
zealous wedge
1.17 is nowhere near done lol
restive saffron
Oh no Iβm not trying to think about when itβs gonna be released
potent fossil
Yeah but you're asking about features within it -- we don't know
Kash what was that limbo command
lean kiln
~limbo test
cosmic raft
something
potent fossil
π
restive saffron
Isnβt the term limbo from spongebob
potent fossil
Wat
restive saffron
As you can see. https://youtu.be/dM9Yqj2Slhs
zealous wedge
~limbo purr
potent fossil
I know two meanings without looking up the definition: a place for lost souls after death, and the limbo game
lean kiln
spongebob didnt invent limbo lol
potent fossil
In that spongebob ep they're just playing the game limbo. lol
restive saffron
The lost souls definition seems cooler, Iβm gonna go with that π
potent fossil
They're both valid definitions but okay
cosmic raft
yay it works
potent fossil
Good job on whatever it is \o/
cosmic raft
will show in a sec
@potent fossil:
net.kyori.kassel.guild.member.event.GuildMemberRoleRemoveEvent{guild=GuildImpl{id=289587909051416579, name="PaperMC"}, member=MemberImpl{user=UserImpl{id=698668938661331045, username="simple", discriminator="5957"}, nick="simple! (he/him)", roles=[504459072406552577, 541496582776815617, 748640620771278999]}, guild=GuildImpl{id=289587909051416579, name="PaperMC"}, role=RoleImpl{id=642983329129299981, name="old prune"}}
net.kyori.kassel.guild.member.event.GuildMemberRoleAddEvent{guild=GuildImpl{id=289587909051416579, name="PaperMC"}, member=MemberImpl{user=UserImpl{id=698668938661331045, username="simple", discriminator="5957"}, nick="simple! (he/him)", roles=[504459072406552577, 642983329129299981, 541496582776815617, 748640620771278999]}, guild=GuildImpl{id=289587909051416579, name="PaperMC"}, role=RoleImpl{id=642983329129299981, name="old prune"}}
~limbo test @potent fossil
void void
Limbo
potent fossil
ooo
visual egret
testing bots in production 
potent fossil
Yeah it's the only way.
cosmic raft
the api is nice too
client.events().subscribe(ChannelMessageCreateEvent.class, event -> {
final Message message = event.message();
if(message.content().startsWith("~limbo test ") && message.author().id() == 105923848263753728L) {
event.channel().message(
Embed.embed()
.color(0xaa00aa)
.authorName("Limbo")
.timestamp(Instant.now())
.description("Hallo " + message.content().replace("~limbo test ", "") + "!")
.authorIcon("https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/35357032?s=460&v=4")
);
}
});
Ooh noice
visual egret
What language you using
cosmic raft
what do you think oskar
potent fossil
Now we just need ACF/Cloud support for commands 
cosmic raft
lol
ancient bolt
that's...java?
visual egret
idk probably java
potent fossil
oh i see ok
visual egret
Mobile code viewing is hard, especially on discord
waxen panther
smh
restive saffron
Well on mobile if you ignore the top event handler, youβd possibly think it was typescript due to camelCase
But the event handler definitely looks scary
magic river
1.17 is supposed to have the renderer rewrite, isn't it?
I wonder if that means Sodium will be dead
visual egret
Didnβt they rewrite the renderer in 1.14?
magic river
No?
magic river
Oh it already happened
Rendering is now using OpenGL 3.2 core profile. All fixed function rendering has been replaced with shader based rendering.
quasi valley
and surprisingly, not too much broke ||yet||
magic river
Kind of sounds like they just ported the existing rendering pipeline to shaders though
vernal moth
This week's snapshot only had like 50 rendering fixes
magic river
So it means a lot of work for Sodium (if it gets an update) and Optifine to update to it but probably not a lot in the way of performance improvements or features in vanilla
quasi valley
best fix was for placing pumpkins to form a swastika tho 
magic river
Although if all the bits around the renderer haven't changed I guess Sodium might not be too hard, it's replacing the renderer rather than trying to hack it up like Optifine
vernal moth
Basically, what searge and felix said was smth along the lines of rewrite to get better apis and tooling first, the fix bugs, then optimize and add new features for gameplay devs
But they can finally use industry standard tools to analyze how frames are rendered and stuff, felix showed a vid on Twitter
zealous wedge
jelly took a quick look iirc, said it seems like it should be fairly straightforward for sodium at least
magic river
The only analyzer I ever used was apitrace
And that was for debugging, not optimization
apitrace handles older GL stuff just fine though, iirc the project started before mesa even supported GL 3
quasi valley
tho it should also be noted that βindustry standardsβ means still like 10 year old tooling π
vernal moth
OpenGL 3.2 is only 8 year old or smth e
quasi valley
nope, almost 12
magic river
boo using nvidia tools π
apitrace (or just mesa itself) can also tell you all about the warnings and errors from things you're doing weird/wrong
Oh hey, nsight is like apitrace with a slightly better UI
vernal moth
Heh
magic river
It records every API call (including the inputs so the trace is self contained), points out the ones doing things wrong or known to be slow/buggy, and lets you step forward and backward through the calls so you can see where things go wrong and introspect GL to see what state doesn't match what you were expecting
You can also just play the trace, not sure if the overhead makes that useless for benchmarking or not but that'd be used by driver developers anyway
potent fossil
what's up with these just completely random things you and snoopa send throughout the day
just absolutely off topic stuff and then it's unexplained
potent fossil
am i supposed to know what game that is
vernal moth
Yes
potent fossil
because no one has said anything, just "Damn"
vernal moth
I forgot the name 
potent fossil
Must be shit then
vernal moth
Teardown
visual egret
enough Twitter for today
untold copper
who summoneth me
potent fossil
no one, in fact i purposefully did not ping so as to not summon you
potent fossil
void void
Morons on twitter being dumb and investing lifesavings
Imagine being stupid enough lmao
potent fossil
Yeah just went on r/WSB earlier and saw some dude lost 200k
everyone in the comments was like "dont do anything drastic just file for bankruptcy"
void void
Nice
untold copper
GG
modest path
I will paste it here
after i figure out why the github pages is not working
probably me being dumb again
vernal moth
everyone in the comments was like "dont do anything drastic just file for bankru...
I fucking love wsb
Its full of apes
But they know that
And embrace it
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tbh I view r/WSB more like r/okbr where people invest smaller amounts into meme stocks for the fun, with the occasional idiot who actually thinks their memes are real and that they should invest their life savings on a meme stock
vernal moth
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/mar/18/toxic-chemicals-health-humanity-erin-brokovich
Forget the climate crisis
This is the real crisis!
quasi valley
the left is trying to take our penises!
vernal moth
Luckily we already know how to make babies in labs so at least that isn't an issue
untold copper
π
limber knotBOT
I'd love to take it, kenny ;)
modest path
https://auriium.github.io/ website is done >:)
quasi valley
modest path
my brain hurts i'm going back to java :((
modest path
w h a t
potent fossil
gad damn baby boomers https://static.jacobandersen.dev/shared/ππ π¦πͺπ».png
limber knotBOT
me when ππ π¦πͺπ».png
quasi valley
not sure what the squid is doing there tho
limber knotBOT
"Once upon a time, there was a sleepy squid headed to Mount Fuji", Kenny
quasi valley
limber knotBOT
sorry, angry emoji, make it all caps too
modest path
ππ π¦πͺπ»
potent fossil
well basically before humans, squids ruled the world. but then humans arrived and the squids were murdered and humans lived in unending depression until (in the future for us, yet) a mountain emerged from the ground and killed everyone or something
im paraphrasing
limber knotBOT
thank u simple π₯Ί
magic river
Twitter
limber knotBOT
hello amaranth!
quasi valley
because all super hero movies need to be light and funny, mmm
magic river
Hi
magic river
because all super hero movies need to be light and funny, mmm
He's talking about the original release
quasi valley
o
olive garden
pls no
quasi valley
and move that bot to #swifties-club so we can continue not reading it
magic river
Don't go telling people about the club
cosmic raft
bleh
cosmic raft
no
twin lagoon
b
potent fossil
hi michale
huggles kash
interesting question my fiancee just asked me...can you mute discord notifs on PC only while still receiving notifs on mobile device?
Short of closing discord on PC entirely
potent fossil
ooo
twin lagoon
through the action center
potent fossil
Indeed that might work thanks bby
bold iron
How to optimize server for best performance?
olive marlin
.optimize
limber knotBOT
additional tips for improving server performance - https://www.spigotmc.org/posts/3684550
olive marlin
Also see https://github.com/YouHaveTrouble/minecraft-optimization @bold iron
untold copper
@modest path
do you mind writing me a .bat file that can compress stuff into .zips?
pls?
olive marlin
Imagine not being able to just do zip -r stuff.zip stuff/
untold meadow
doesn't 7zip have a command line
in fact, doesn't windows 10 include tar?
in fact in fact, doesn't powershell have a compress-zip or something?
spiral robin
Go to bed @potent fossil
olive garden
@wide chasm have you had any issues with mocking final methods in QS?
I think I wrote that code
but I can't get it to work in my project
wide chasm
I don't think I've had any issues with tests in the current version
green wharf
You guys working on the next version??
olive garden
hmm I wonder whether updating Mockito and using Java 15 breaks it
the mockito version QS uses doesn't support Java 15
wide chasm
Hmm, could be, I don't have any local changes related to the tests and it works fine with the current version and Java 11
olive garden
but after some googling it seems like that enabling this inline-mock extension via the test resources (as documented in the mockito wiki) sometimes doesn't work for no apparent reason
I could try using reflection in most scenarios, but that's meh
whatever, thanks for the help
wide chasm
Didn't do much, but sure
wide chasm
You guys working on the next version??
Not really next version, more an alternative version I suppose
olive garden
well, using the mockito-inline artifact that's preconfigured to support this feature thankfully works
potent fossil
RCE them back
limber knotBOT
exploiting some recent jboss CVE
potent fossil
limber knotBOT
little do they know, I dont do jboss π
firewall team didnt give me attacker IP :/
oh they do
untold copper
this is new
left swift
No that says clip
limber knotBOT
comes from leaseweb.com, some german host
does somebody know how I can proper decode a x-java-serialized-object?
I wanna see the whole payload
untold copper
No that says clip
ok this clip feature is new
limber knotBOT
all I can read rn is that they somehow get it to execute a system.exec
and do a curl
again an internal ip?
192.168.x is all internal, right?
potent fossil
should be
limber knotBOT
strange
mmmh, the ip is def not reachable internally
AppScanMsg.html is what it tries to report to, that sounds like a metasploit module or smth, lol
get those script kiddies of my servers, smh
potent fossil
limber knotBOT
lmao, if you google AppScanMsg.html, you find stuff like http://ddecode.com/hexdecoder/?results=823ef54f61a32c03ddec44b7c5bdb5f0
potent fossil
this is a work server?
potent fossil
u sure they didnt hire some pentesters :D might actually be using metasploit kek
potent fossil
Kek, I was told about pentesters when they were meant to attempt to break the system I owned
Bc I had to make them a basic account in the system 
But then again it depends on the type of exploit they're trying i guess, they were trying to do privilege escalation in my case not general RCE 
left swift
Pull the cord
limber knotBOT
why? they didnt went thru
left swift
Emergency scissors in case of cyber attack
limber knotBOT
it got flagged in our AI based WA
left swift
limber knotBOT
and even if it would go thru the WAF, my app isnt vulnerable to that RCE
imagine using javas serialization, smh
potent fossil
limber knotBOT
the CVEs the request got flagged for are all really old too, the most recent on is 2016
found this blog post that explains the attack https://blog.hcltechsw.com/appscan/hey-dns-with-hcl-appscan-domain-name-server/
as in, they explain why its shit to exfiltrate data via http
and why ppl use dns to dot hat nowadays
I have seen such a attack on our servers before too
you basically use dns to get the data back to you, and encode all the data you wanna send in a subdomain
so your custom DNS server just logs requests then and you got your data
potent fossil
o.o
limber knotBOT
its really smart cause nobody blocks dns
left swift
limber knotBOT
so yeah, if you ever have a RCE and wanna send back the content of etc/passwd or whatever, just ping user-pass.dnsexf.minidigger.me and you got it
bypasses almost always all firewalls and subnetting and stuff
and like, if idiots like me know these kinda attacks, imagine what the pros use to exfiltrate data, lol
quasi valley
very :PokiChomp:
left swift
Why do you have 60billion discord accounts oskar
quasi valley
2 = 60 billion I see
left swift
.g define exaggeration
limber knotBOT
topaz mortar
> 6 Pillow vulnerabilities found in requirements.txt 14 hours ago
exciting
Python...
Upgrade the dependency I guess.
left swift
I mean imo for what you use discord for normally having more than 1 is weird
left swift
olive marlin
I wish there was "super user" mode like in many apps like GH.
left swift
Also that definition is great "Exaggeration: the act of exaggerating something"
olive marlin
Where you could get basic access once, but for more actions you need second auth.
left swift
olive marlin
"a statement that exaggerates something"
true canyon
GitHub does require a followup reauthentication for certain actions.
Like editing webhooks.
Or managing other's access
potent fossil
it was a hyperbole u fooken idiots, a figure of speech in which exaggeration is used. just calling it an exaggeration is only half the story so fuk u and your exaggerations, ill now proceed to kill you by literally launching starship on top of you.
except mbax is safe <3
left swift
Do it quicker next time
potent fossil
.kill nomana
limber knotBOT
slices nomana's limbs off with a sharpened katana.
left swift
Hmm racist
fluid elm
what a great school, not letting me open the creative cloud app but also locking me out from using dimension π π
left swift
Kill the japanese guy with a katana
olive marlin
At least it was sharpened.
cunning raft
why do you have an alt in here oskar
potent fossil
Nah I'm just putting a fucking idiot out of his misery that's all
left swift
.kill simple
limber knotBOT
crushes simple with a huge spiked barrel of rocks.
potent fossil
sweet release
cunning raft
.hug simple
potent fossil
love you nomana, going 2 bed now gudnayt
left swift
Spiked rocks
cunning raft
ffs
potent fossil
@cunning raft π¨ββ€οΈβπβπ¨
olive marlin
why do you have an alt in here oskar
Main accounts has 2FA, Second is for when he's in school and can't use 2fa
left swift
Sounds like a drink
fluid elm
why do you have an alt in here oskar
scroll up and read
cunning raft
left swift
cunning raft
fluid elm
since when are alts illegal in papermc 2.0
cunning raft
since i said so
left swift
Jroy is ruler of rules
olive marlin
You can't use alt to circumvent ban. But I don't remember seeing other rules.
Could be wrong though, not really interested in using alts.
fluid elm
bans are also by ip
cunning raft
not automatically
olive marlin
Not on discord.
cunning raft
they are ip bans yes
olive marlin
Oh.
fluid elm
yes on discord
cunning raft
but they will not kick other accounts by that ip
fluid elm
but will prevent from joining
left swift
No one said anything about alts being banned
untold copper
did discord just shit itself for a moment for anyone else
vernal moth
No it just did shit on you
untold copper
ohk
left swift
Ew
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Main accounts has 2FA, Second is for when he's in school and can't use 2fa
me when every single major password manager has TOTP support
https://owo.whats-th.is/AaCZ7Fw.png bitwarden anyone? 
potent fossil
its bc he is a child and his phone is confiscated lmao
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yeah ik but that is no actual excuse lol
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even webvault for bitwarden can
potent fossil
ok that is VERY pog .
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i know lastpass also supports it in their ext, not sure abt web vault as i'm not allowed to use that
waxen panther
flushed ?
left swift
π₯Ί
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potent fossil
i have lastpass rn and i dont see totp anywhere
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might be an enterprise thing then, simple
vernal moth
I need to get off of lastpass
untold meadow
you just all need to move to keepass with syncthing
cunning raft
mini you can export your data ez pz
i moved to one password and ik bitwardan supports it too
left swift
Just remember your passwords lol
cunning raft
you goto your settings and you can get a huge csv
and onepassword/bitwarden lets you import it
took me 30 seconds
works with notes too
vernal moth
But i need to install bitwarde and the clients and everything
Idk maybe I'll do it this weekend
cunning raft
ah
vernal moth
I don't even know when the deadline is
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i just use the web extension on desktop and app on phone
topaz mortar
I need to migrate to bitwarden
Same just with 1 password. π
vernal moth
And bitwarden rs?
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yep
vernal moth
I don't wanna switch to yet another company that will screw me over eventually
So 1password isn't an option
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# Security
bitwarden:
image: bitwardenrs/server:alpine
volumes:
- /srv/docker/bitwarden/data/:/data
environment:
- ADMIN_TOKEN=JroysMumIsSexy
- ROCKET_PORT=80
restart: unless-stopped
vernal moth
Is the volume encrypted?
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all data is encrypted on the server, decrypted on client afaik
vernal moth
Don't need to think about backups too much then
Thanks proxi, I'll do it later maybe
topaz mortar
So 1password isn't an option
Did not recommend that.
Just saying that I want to get rid of 1password Inthe future and migrate to bitwarden.
vernal moth
Oh
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from site:
Bitwarden uses AES-CBC 256-bit encryption for your Vault data, and PBKDF2 SHA-256 to derive your encryption key. Bitwarden always encrypts and/or hashes your data on your local device before anything is sent to cloud servers for storage. Bitwarden servers are only used for storing encrypted data.
so bitwarden_rs would need to do the same thing
worn ember
Ok
twin lagoon
I don't even know when the deadline is
deadline has already passed
twin lagoon
march 16th
vernal moth
Proxi, how good is the bitwarden auto fill on Android?
twin lagoon
good
vernal moth
So both browsers and native apps?
twin lagoon
yes
topaz mortar
With bitwarden_rs you've the features that you need to pay when using their official docker container for self hosting.
That at least was my understanding.
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it didn't work on my prev phone which ran EMUI 8 (Android 10), but works fine on my OnePlus 8 Pro on Android 11
vernal moth
Nice
void void
hello i search plugin in 1.16.5 to manage home and teleport to them,.. can you help me to make a choice ?
left swift
Nope
vernal moth
@void void essentialsx
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if it can't find something to fill, it'll let you search and just use whatever you select
vernal moth
Smh am literally essx chill now
cunning raft
ess turns 10 today!
void void
thanks i'm et noobie i can jsute copy .jar in plugins folder that all ?
cunning raft
Smh am literally essx chill now
your check is in the mail
cunning raft
15 minutes
vernal moth
thanks i'm et noobie i can jsute copy .jar in plugins folder that all ?
Yes
You prolly want to check the config and stuff, essentials got a ton of features to help you
minor badge
@cunning raft configurate merge when
void void
You prolly want to check the config and stuff, essentials got a ton of features ...
Amazing thank your very much !
vernal moth
Kek
waxen panther
smh jroy
cunning raft
turns out ess used way too much of the bukkit config system
quasi valley
π πͺ‘
cunning raft
π
πΉ
π
cunning raft
broc goto bed
cunning raft
yeah, so?
worn ember
sleep you nub
left swift
U can come work for me I'll go sleep
waxen panther
tempting!
left swift
U can do my job and I'll keep the money and sleep its win win
worn ember
shut up you dont have mana so you dont have rights
left swift
worn ember
its ok, jesus still loves you
limber knotBOT
brb using IRC exclusively from now on /s
left swift
Mcdefghijklmnop
waxen panther
friendship OVER with mdcfe.
cunning raft
waxen panther
olive marlin
<@!209234044657991680> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/next/linu...
Nice. Finally.
waxen panther
@cunning raft stfu .
austere ivy
brocc why are you server muted :(
cunning raft
@waxen panther undeafen
olive marlin
you just all need to move to keepass with syncthing
That's my setup - works epic and don't have to worry about backups.
But don't you have issues with filling stuff in? Especially on Android, but also in the official extension for FF it sometimes does dum.
waxen panther
that was toxic
waxen panther
brocc why are you server muted :(
from yesterday lol
cunning raft
brocc why are you server muted :(
british
olive marlin
And I feel like it causes synchronization issues, since it only sees the database as one big blob and can't see incremental changes.
austere ivy
gotta restart teh computer hold on
waxen panther
tehbrian restarting tehcomputer
untold meadow
That's my setup - works epic and don't have to worry about backups.
But don't yo...
not at all tbh - i've got KeePassDX and it does all that shit for me - just switch keyboard, unlock with biometrics/password and tap to fill in values
olive marlin
So I need to manually dump the cache after changing stuff one device.
untold meadow
it's also got autofill support but ive never used it tbh
untold meadow
i use xc on desktop and never had any problems with it tbh
olive marlin
And Keepass2Android on phone.
untold meadow
but for android id def rec keepass dx
olive marlin
Will check it out, thanks.
untold meadow
KeePassDX - https://www.keepassdx.com/
i used to use keepass2android but i just found it ugly and honestly aesthetics is just the most important thing to me lmao
olive marlin
KeePassDX - https://www.keepassdx.com/
It doesn't support 2FA π’
untold meadow
i swear it does
olive marlin
I can't find the setting for it.
untold meadow
it's def got hotp and totp support
untold meadow
ohhh right
it's got password + keyfile support which has always been good enough for me but ive never used yubikey
olive marlin
If the file lays next to the database, what use of is it?
I'd rather have password and yubikey.
untold meadow
if it's intercepted in transit or whatever
olive marlin
Ig you are right...
untold meadow
looks like they're working on it tho https://github.com/Kunzisoft/KeePassDX/issues/8
worn ember
git muted
left swift
No u
austere ivy
computer? restarted π
worn ember
hotel? Trivago
worn ember
mossy vessel
left swift
Wig? Snatched
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bald again, NMF?
red imp
Hi, almost all plugins don't work on my server with Java 11... there are reports like these: https://pastebin.com/Qwgvuz0K
And my hosting provider responded with:
Unfortunately, if developers develop plugins on other versions than the server supports, it is a very bad practice as it is possible to develop them on newer versions but export them to support version 8, which is not the version of the server.
Any idea what to write them?
mossy vessel
left swift
twin lagoon
Caused by: java.lang.SecurityException: permission error: /usr/lib/jvm/java-11-openjdk-amd64/lib/libawt_headless.so
not a java issue
git-Tuinity-"9ac33d1"]
tuinity discord exists for a reason
it really isn't hard to ask support at the right place
left swift
true canyon
Hey @red imp if you feel comfortable sharing, what host is this?
untold meadow
half lynx
.optimize
limber knotBOT
additional tips for improving server performance - https://www.spigotmc.org/posts/3684550
vernal moth
time to move all my dockerfile and shit to github actions
this gonna be fun
only have two pages of projects...
ashen cliff
Any good Clever bot alternative out here?
Like everything else that I found was too predictable.
vernal moth
gpt3?
red imp
tuinity discord exists for a reason
I've tried with both - Paper & Tuinity, here I've tried it with the Tuinity, but on Paper it doesn't work neither
waxen panther
then post your logs while using the paper jar lol
untold meadow
the problem is your host - not the server software
cursive eagle
is it cheating if player taken all items from chest by one click ?
red imp
https://hicoria.com/ ?
yeah
ashen cliff
is it cheating if player taken all items from chest by one click ?
Depends.
If it's a single item type, no.
red imp
then post your logs while using the paper jar lol
there were same errors π
untold copper
post the whole logs
red imp
the problem is your host - not the server software
and what does host have to allow? Their respond was:
Unfortunately, if developers develop plugins on other versions than the server supports, it is a very bad practice as it is possible to develop them on newer versions but export them to support version 8, which is not the version of the server.
untold meadow
i mean they've specifically put a security manager on that prevents use of headless awt stuff
nothing to do with java version
true canyon
Yeah, this is their own code doing this. lol
next frost
Any good Clever bot alternative out here?
Like everything else that I found wa...
ELIZA
red imp
i mean they've specifically put a security manager on that prevents use of headl...
but weird is that on java 8 all plugins work
why then they block this on java 11? Why then they offer java 11 this way when plugins don't work there
next frost
ask them
untold meadow
could be they just dont have that security manager on their java 8 instance
untold copper
"bUt iT wOrKs!"
untold copper
"iT wOrKs FiNe!1!!!1!1"
untold meadow
the plugins aren't broken
next frost
I don't know how this is related to broken plugins
net.md_5.bungee.api.ChatColor isn't from a plugin, so 
visual egret
If time isnβt too much of an issue, should I use tebex or do that myself with stripe
untold meadow
yeah it's just varying things accessing awt stuff and not being allowed
red imp
could be they just dont have that security manager on their java 8 instance
I think they had on java 8, cause AAC didn't work for me due to it
but on java 8 all plugins worked there
untold meadow
nothing to do with java version
red imp
except aac, only one that didn't work
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that's just their image being dumb
red imp
yeah but they had change something in their java 11 support if plugins work on java 8
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it's just a bad host with stupid employees
untold meadow
just tell them to remove their useless security manager shit
waxen panther
proxi so smart pleadingemoji
untold meadow
it's headless awt it's not gonna do anything
they should be isolating hosts in containers or such anyway so there's no security problems
untold copper
If time isnβt too much of an issue, should I use tebex or do that myself with st...
do it urself cos why not
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docker π is π not π a π sandbox π
visual egret
docker is a sandbox if you try hard enough
spare venture
onedrive is a damn virus
untold copper
lol
spare venture
has caused me so many damn problems
red imp
if you have time may ou could try contact them too about it π
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its not, oskar
red imp
IF they will do it that way, no one buy there minecraft server since 1.17
if 3/4 of plugins won't work there due to this
untold meadow
i mean, doesn't bother me if nobody buys their servers lmao
waxen panther
doesnt seem like an us problem
waxen schooner
Anyone here by any chance got any recommendations for free Java profilers? Currently using JProfiler, but the price tag for that is way way way out of my budget lol
I know Paper uses YourKit, but I don't think that's very cheap either
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IntelliJ
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async-profiler is also great
untold meadow
iirc jprofiler has an open source license if that helps
vernal moth
And Flight Recorder is "integrated"
on java >= 11
waxen schooner
Ah yes, flight recorder
waxen schooner
on java >= 11
Luckily, that is a requirement that this project satisfies
waxen schooner
So flight recorder and IntelliJ's built-in profiler are decent then yeah?
wide chasm
I think IntelliJ's built-in one is flight recorder
Oh, they have multiple ones one of which is flight recorder
cursive eagle
I ran into a dilemma whether to ban a player: On the server is enabled anti-xray from paper (engine mode 1), but this player was able to get 16 ancient debris in less than an hour, digging such ladder tunnels. I think he's very lucky or uses special cheats, like get a world seed or etc?
cunning raft
.xray
cunning raft
fyi
wide chasm
Can't say much about Flight Recorder; tried it integrated in IJ on Windows, but had some issues with one of the profiles, so I could only use the continuous profile mode, which doesn't do much for just a single program execution. (Apparently a bug in IJ.)
YourKit is imo the best one I tried, but VisualVM is also fine.
vernal moth
JFR is fine
visual egret
For the seed part use antiseedcracker
waxen panther
you're a strange man phoenix
limber knotBOT
it's a lot easier to ban xrayers if you don't use any form of anti xray
left swift
Phoenix is a boomer
untold meadow
is there a quick way to go from a number to 0. that number?
limber knotBOT
because they just dig straight to it lol
left swift
Ok phoenix, what do you do when no ones on to watch them dig straight towards it
visual egret
It depends what your anti X-ray is, an annoyance or a hider
untold meadow
use an anti xray heuristic plugin
waxen panther
i think the bigger problem is when you have more than 5 players on lol
untold meadow
plenty of good ones out there
limber knotBOT
Kezz: integer / Math.pow(10, String.valueOf(integer).length())
nomanasendhelp: you look at it afterwards and ban them
but it helps if you have active staff which loves to hunt xrayers
untold meadow
ahh nice - ty phoenix xoxo
left swift
Oh shit my amazon package with my new PC parts coming a day earlier 
untold meadow
if i wasn't so bad at maths programming would be a lot easier sometimes
cursive eagle
Lol, thx for paper anti xray guide, but Ive red it 10+ times. Ive choosen engine mode 1 for better perfomance
but strange things happens
some players so lucky in mining
and i dont know they use xray or not
untold copper
Oh shit my amazon package with my new PC parts coming a day earlier <a:pokiDance...
thats epic :3
left swift
Always a good feeling
unkempt drift
TIL, IBM is has been around for 110 years...
wide chasm
Yeah, IBM is old
visual egret
Imagine being younger than ibm smh
untold copper
Imagine.
worn ember
smooth brain
visual egret
I mean, krusic probably has to imagine
left swift
Haha krusic old
untold copper
haha yes
visual egret
All the balkans missed papermc happy hour
limber knotBOT
I mean, Stylus exists
vernal moth
dark reader got a good enough job
limber knotBOT
or that I guess
vernal moth
but setting up bitwarden on all my devices and deploying the server was pretty painless, I like
limber knotBOT
main issue I have with it is that I can't get it to only make certain pages dark and ignore others without using chrome's inbuilt feature to only allow certain sites :S
vernal moth
you can toggle it for individual sites?
limber knotBOT
doesn't seem to work for me. it only has a global toggle it seems?
vernal moth
limber knotBOT
yeah, that toggle is global for me
vernal moth
that toggle there in the upper left is per site, unless I press the button on the bottom, then its per all
so maybe you just have it set to global settings?
limber knotBOT
oh wait, if I enable it and then push "only for" it switches to per-site mode
you can't switch it to per-site mode if you have it turned off on the current site wat
that's a bit unintuitive lol
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site list also has the ability to select invert listed only
limber knotBOT
yeah you can only use site-only for dark mode, you can't have dark mode globally and disable it for some
also it breaks some sites :/
vernal moth
I have it enabled on all and disable it if it breaks
idk why thats so hard to configure for you, lol
limber knotBOT
it tends to slow down my browser too much to use everyhwere
if I disable it on an individual site it disables it globally
vernal moth
git gud then
vernal moth
you use the wrong button π
limber knotBOT
but that's the button that I want to use? :P
and it works for the inverted usecase
(turning it on on specific sites)
oh wait, actually it doesn't
oof
yeah, that's what I meant
lol
I don't want it to force light or dark mode on certain sites but completely ignore them
olive marlin
You can only blacklist sites, not whitelist.
vernal moth
if you disable the extension, its disabled
you wanna use the button left of that, to disable dark mode
limber knotBOT
well of course, if I disable it in chromium it's off
vernal moth
and the button On/Off does pretty much the same
limber knotBOT
I want to disable it affecting the current site
vernal moth
for that you use the button left of that
olive marlin
Then press the site name next to on/off switch.
limber knotBOT
ooh
it's just reaaaaally slow to update the theme
lmao
it takes like 10 seconds to change it on google calenders π
olive marlin
I have darkreader and disable it for certain sites, for which I have stylus themes.
limber knotBOT
so how do I set it up to only work on certain site but have it disable on all teh rest? do I need to go through all of the sites in existance or...?
olive marlin
But you have great CPU etc.
vernal moth
so how do I set it up to only work on certain site but have it disable on all te...
I guess you use bottom button to go to global settings, then make global off, then go back to per site setting and you can enable it per site then
olive marlin
It is a bit slower on my work machine etc.
vernal moth
even on my work craptop it doesnt take 10 seconds
sometimes it takes a hot second, yes, but I never was annoyed by it
limber knotBOT
no idea what's up there, the delay changes all the time: https://phoenix616.dev/π·/gmUA98dg.mp4 lol
vernal moth
I mean thats still acceptable, thats about as long as it takes on my craptop too
and for some reason making smth dark is faster than making it white again, whihc is fun
twin lagoon
mfw the bitwarden web vault has no theme support
the extension is what you'd want to use 99% of the time
and the extension has a dark mode
twin lagoon
it's weird that the web vault doesn't have one though
literally all it changes is the bootstrap css
fresh pendant
Does anyone have a quote or message link to one of the paper devs saying to not use lag removal plugins and to configure the settings in the paper.yml and such?
limber knotBOT
that's common knowledge
fresh pendant
because appeal to authority
limber knotBOT
fuck people like that
fresh pendant
wait wut?
limber knotBOT
why would an artifical authority hold any control over your own life?!?
twin lagoon
that does seem a bit weird lol
fresh pendant
wait wut? what does this have to do with my life?
wraith trail
if you do care to, just search "clearlag" from zzzcat in #paper-help, he is in there quite a bit
but that is quite weird
fresh pendant
Yeah I found one
warm anchor
Tfw he doesnβt trust us 
pulsar wigeon
do you understand what "appeal to authority" means? it's literally a logical fallacy
the entire point is that an authoritative figure saying something doesn't make it more true
warm anchor
Lol
limber knotBOT
people like that are the reason why right wing populism is on the rise right now
worn ember
Uh ok
pulsar wigeon
(yes)
fresh pendant
do you understand what "appeal to authority" means? it's literally a *logical fa...
Oh, there is the confusion, I used the fallacy instead of Ethos
limber knotBOT
EterNity: doesn't exist Β―_(γ)_/Β―
pulsar wigeon
amazingly turned off the ping, so there's that ig
fresh pendant
As in he is a credible java developer of the minecraft community, specifically with server jars, which is why I got something from him as his credentials help the point
warm anchor
fresh pendant
My bad, I couldn't think of the word Ethos, so I said the fallacy lol
pulsar wigeon
but yea, while i will admit that people like cat have gone over this in more detail as to explaining why clearlag is bad, the fact that he is a project dev or whatever else doesn't make those points more valid than if someone else says it
limber knotBOT
you realise that everyone can make errors? just being good with one thing doesn't mean that you are right on all the others...
warm anchor
Hi snoopa have you finish your homework
limber knotBOT
if you can't get to the same conclusion by the arguments presented on the topic no matter the person presenting the arguments then you are part of the problem...
upper flicker
fresh pendant
but yea, while i will admit that people like cat have gone over this in more det...
Yeah it's mainly that he can explain it better than I can
waxen panther
tf is goin on in here
waxen panther
haha so funny phoenix
fresh pendant
Now yes, it is common sense that doing more things = more lag in the terms of a server and plugins but it's always better to get it from a credible source
waxen panther
thank you π
limber knotBOT
that's not even one of the real arguments why it's bad
untold copper
lol
fresh pendant
It's why people listen to doctors rather than some dude off the streets because the doctor has had years of knowledge and practice in the field
left swift
Guy asks for a link for reasons why no use clear lag then Phoenix starts yelling at him and calling him a sheeple
limber knotBOT
JRoy: I actually am, thanks :P
fresh pendant
Guy asks for a link for reasons why no use clear lag then Phoenix starts yelling...
Yeah lol but it's alright
waxen panther
but but the government no mana !!!
fresh pendant
I do find conversation and debating quite fun
pulsar wigeon
no, he asked for specifically a figure of authority saying "clearlag is bad". he did not ask for reasons not to use it
limber knotBOT
nomanasendhelp: they didn't, they asked for an authority figure to proof it
pulsar wigeon
fresh pendant
no, he asked for specifically a figure of authority saying "clearlag is bad". he...
Yes but as I said, he can explain it better than me and #general message
limber knotBOT
basically telling every other member of this community that their arguments are worthless
which I take personally
fresh pendant
Yes, by value, other members of the community do technically have less value in their arguments than the project developers phoenix
limber knotBOT
fuck of then
fresh pendant
mainly because their backgrounds haven't been established
pulsar wigeon
i mean, neither have most of the devs tbh
left swift
Not everyone is a minecraft dev lore master that knows all the names
limber knotBOT
the argument in itself is what matters
pulsar wigeon
it's just some random stray cat off the streets of some ghetto in london for all we know
limber knotBOT
not who is saying it
waxen panther
someones feelings are hurt π
pulsar wigeon
just cuz they managed to smash some buttons and write code smh
fresh pendant
i mean, neither have most of the devs tbh
My point is, the "Core Team" have been established in making an optimized server jar, Paper
fresh pendant
the argument in itself is what matters
That is true but people with credentials and years of experience do generally help an arguments persuasion
left swift
π₯Ί
limber knotBOT
JordanPlayz158: yeah and I call bullshit on that and we are back on the fallacy of giving authorities more credibility than one should
pulsar wigeon
years of experience gives them the knowledge to make the correct argument
limber knotBOT
people that trust in authority figures should start thinking for themselves and evaluating the arguments
basically: don't be dumb π
pulsar wigeon
i know plenty of software devs who have been copying from stackoverflow for 15 years but couldn't come up with shit if you asked them to alone
left swift
Phoenix is an anarchist? π³
fresh pendant
JordanPlayz158: yeah and I call bullshit on that and we are back on the fallacy ...
I mean i'm not giving them more credit then they deserve, they have earned it in a way
pulsar wigeon
(metaphorical of course, no clue if SO has even been around for 15 yrs)
left swift
The individual is the society
left swift
cunning raft
wtf is this
waxen panther
yes phoenix please do
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we live in a society
pulsar wigeon
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