general

[cunning raft]

i just got a 3a last year

[ancient bolt]

they're all so boring, or they have samsung software

I want pixel software, I have to have an underscreen fingerprint reader

[magic river]

Nexus started off as just below flagship but super cheap, grew into flagship for not much of a discount, turned in to Pixel for flagship at full flagship prices, then turned in to just below flagship for flagship prices

[ancient bolt]

if the next pixel has that I'll probably be happy

[magic river]

Time for the next rebranding?

[ancient bolt]

the rear finger print reader just doesn't work for me

[cunning raft]

i liked it sigh

[warm anchor]

There’s no need to hide. We are out there.

[stiff yarrow]

types from mac

[cunning raft]

imo pixel is their best shot

people just started to learn about the brand name

if they ditched it, it would probably be a negative

that being said

I can see google doing it

because google

[magic river]

Google keeps flipping between wanting to be in the hardware market and wanting to drive it a certain direction

[viscid wedge]

I bought a Pixel 5 coming from a OnePlus 7 Pro and I'm never buying another non Google Android again

[magic river]

Like, sometimes they actually care about hardware and spend a bunch of money making polished products and ads and such and other times they just use them as reference platforms to get people excited for some functionality and convince Samsung to include it

I wouldn't buy a Pixel unless they finally upgrade their camera

They've been using the same sensor and lenses since either the OG Pixel or the 2 and just adding more layers of computational photography to improve on it

[cunning raft]

if it ain't broke don't fix it

only thing I wish they'd improve is video

but stills are amazing imo

[magic river]

It was impressive as hell for the OG Pixel but now it's just average

[ancient bolt]

i think oneplus or pixel are the only phones I'll buy at this point. The pure google (or very close to it) experience is really important to me. I end up missing a ton of pixel-only features on my oneplus, even though it's almost there. just looking at samsung's software, god I hate it

[magic river]

Well, average for a flagship

[ancient bolt]

which makes me sad because oneplus phones aren't very interesting to me anymore after the 7 pro and the pixels always seem to disappoint

[viscid wedge]

OnePlus software is absolutely atrocious, and they're too expensive for what they are now

[magic river]

I got a 7T expecting an active modding community but there is basically nothing

[unreal quarry]

i love my oneplus 7T pro

[ancient bolt]

and im not willing to buy a samsung phone and root it to get my pixel software, I stopped doing that shit years ago and have no energy to do it again

[viscid wedge]

Custom ROMs only get you so far. I was an unofficial Lineage maintainer for a bit and since vendor is prebuilt you're literally fucked for security updates.

[magic river]

Some people started making their stuff work on 7T Pro and regular 7T so we got something every now and then

[cunning raft]

i stopped rooting my main phone in the first place

[ancient bolt]

the GPS & compass chip in my 7 pro is busted and I've cracked the back glass so it's really on its last legs

[cunning raft]

ever since hardware safety net

realized I didn't really need root in the first place

[magic river]

And lately people make things that work with 7/7P/7T/7TP so there is more but nothing really interesting

[viscid wedge]

A lot of development happens exclusively on Telegram these days instead of XDA.

[cunning raft]

XDA has become dogshit

[ancient bolt]

@viscid wedge yeah I was on the ICSSGS team back in the day, I'm very aware of all of that. Big reason why I'm not interested in modding anymore

[viscid wedge]

That's a common issue I think. Mine stopped working after a couple months too.

[viscid wedge]

if you're ever interested again, a guy going by kdrag0n has found a way around this

[magic river]

I pretty much only ever look for Pixel Experience ROMs and/or patches to make Pixel apps work on whatever phone I have

Not much need for that these days either I guess

[ancient bolt]

teamhacksung was the team that maintained the original SGS cyanogenmod rom and they based their device tree off of ours without really giving credit

I'll never stop being bitter about that

[cunning raft]

not really worth it

[ancient bolt]

fuck that was almost 10 years ago now

[viscid wedge]

I run Lineage builds I do myself with Pixel Gapps inlined

They're not public though

I just want the extra functionality, I'll probably go back to stock when Android 12 releases

[ancient bolt]

almost 10 years ago we didn't give a shit about that stuff on ICSSGS. Our roms came pre-baked with gapps

we were super bad

[viscid wedge]

Yeah google didn't like that very much

[ancient bolt]

we were a small fish

we weren't cyanogenmod

no one noticed

[viscid wedge]

With TWRP being shit these days it's coming back

[unreal quarry]

i've always hated cyanogen, only because they stole a lot of shit i came up with :3

[ancient bolt]

I had dinner with the TWRP devs back in like 2014? 2015? can't remember

they were cool dudes, don't know anything about what it is now though

[viscid wedge]

Development has slowed down a LOT

[ancient bolt]

yeah I'd imagine

[magic river]

TWRP still can't handle A/B partitions iirc

[viscid wedge]

It can

[magic river]

Which means it's useless since like Android 9

[viscid wedge]

The amount of officially supported devices with A/B is very slim though

[cunning raft]

google changes the partitioning with every new phone they make

they still cannot decide

[viscid wedge]

sometimes they ship broken official builds

the main thing is that decryption barely works in twrp right now

[ancient bolt]

do roms still have to do nand shuffling?

[magic river]

Samsung apparently doesn't even do A/B so updates there still have to reboot into update mode and leave your phone unusable for 10-15 minutes

[viscid wedge]

I have zero idea what that is, so I'm assuming no

[viscid wedge]

yeah it's super dumb. Buddy's S20 is like this.

[ancient bolt]

err nand wear leveling? not sure what the generic name for it is

[magic river]

That's probably a part of why support for it is shit, the most popular phones don't use it

[cunning raft]

i think samsung does that in part due to google changing the a/b format every year

[ancient bolt]

we moved our partition table layout around every release on ICSSGS because SGS phones were getting to the age where the nand chips were starting to fail if you left your system partition in the same place for too long

[viscid wedge]

oh lord

yeah I think flash memory is better these days

[ancient bolt]

I assume nand technology has improved significantly since then lol

[viscid wedge]

By a lot.

I hate that OnePlus and Google are basically the only OEMs left that actually allow bootloader unlocking

Xiaomi does too, but it's a convoluted process

[cunning raft]

samsung still does too

just if you buy directly from them

[magic river]

Just don't use Verizon

[cunning raft]

carriers often lock bootloaders

google/samsung doesn't have enough US marketshare to say fuck off to carriers and not load their shitty vendor software on

[magic river]

Any time I looked at it if the phone was from Verizon it was definitely locked, if it was from Sprint is might be, and for AT&T and T-Mobile if they bothered to lock it you could easily just get a non-carrier one

Verizon still has a whitelist on what phones work on their network

Not sure if the Sprint branding is even still used

[cunning raft]

what's odd is that verizon doesn't network lock

only bootloader

[magic river]

They do, but only for the CDMA part

[cunning raft]

oh well CDMA only

[magic river]

You can't use a Verizon phone on Sprint or vice versa but the GSM/LTE part is unlocked

[cunning raft]

yeah but they could lock it to verizon if they wanted to

[magic river]

That was from their old "world phone" setup where they convinced you what you really wanted to do in another country is get new cell phone service from a local company

Which was just marketing for their network tech being a US only thing

[merry talon]

locked phones are illegal now here <3

[solemn mist]

is there a easy way to make a easy backup

[cunning raft]

no sorry

only easy way to make hard backup

[warm anchor]

Stop server > tarball > start server.

[minor badge]

jroy 😳

[warm anchor]

Proxi no sleep!?

[minor badge]

wh

[merry talon]

suspend the server

[minor badge]

I slept like 9 hours!

[warm anchor]

Proxi much sleep !?

[minor badge]

eternity no sleep ?

[warm anchor]

About to! 11:19

[minor badge]

sleep well!

[warm anchor]

[untold copper]

oR yOu CaN uSe Me PyThOn ScRiPt!111!!

https://github.com/YTMrSnipa/mcpy-backup

you're welcome :3

first ever github page lol

[obtuse topaz]

where do I go to get help :p

[untold copper]

#paper-help

[mighty storm]

python!

of all the langs 😢

[cunning raft]

[mighty storm]

[cunning raft]

still better than node

[mighty storm]

barely

[cunning raft]

ye

[mighty storm]

least python wasn't yoinked out of the browser and put on steroids

[untold copper]

@mighty storm python is the one language I can do lol

[mighty storm]

great first choice

im out of candy to eat and i need fuel

[untold copper]

I can't even do it that well, but I knew a bit, so putting together wouldn't be too hard

[mighty storm]

only python ive written is for mitmproxy

pain

[untold copper]

after this i learnt that coding is 50% googling, 50% copy pasting and then adding 3 lines of your own :P

[ripe sphinx]

uh not really

very little copypasta if you know what you're doing

[true canyon]

Oh. Oh no.

[golden gust]

there goes mbax's career

[short yarrow]

How do you guys design code to be flexible? If you want your code to be flexible for hypothetical situations in the future, won't your code get complex real quick? and you could be over engineering as well

[magic river]

Experience teaches you that you should mostly not do that but you get a feel for cases where it might still make some sense

[golden gust]

be sane

[magic river]

Most of those cases will be wrong but at least you won't try to make something so generic you reinvent smalltalk

[golden gust]

you gotta find a balance between designing stuff to be future proof and getting stuff done

refactors of any long standing codebase are to be expected, encouraged, and the norm, as much as ideally we'd get the perfect codebase in one shot, you gotta be realistic 🤷‍♂️

[magic river]

One big "generic" thing you learn from experience is that copy/paste should be the default when you have some bit of code useful in two places

aka don't make it generic at all

[short yarrow]

Yeah that's what I expect. If there's gonna be a change you'll have to refactor. My understanding though is if you write flexible code you should hopefully have to refactor less or the extra code you write for flexibility will be useless

[minor badge]

it really depends

[magic river]

Lots of times things work the same by happenstance, not by design. Pulling their common bit out into a shared function will evolve in to a function that takes a bunch of conditionals to turn bits of it on or off because things evolved in different directions but no one was brave enough to remove the "shared" code

[minor badge]

if it's a small bit of code, making it generic is dumb

[magic river]

Also see Minecraft

[minor badge]

for stuff that's larger, libraries are great and welcomed

[short yarrow]

I like refactoring. It's fun. I learn what I should or should not be doing from other people's code

[true canyon]

Unless it's your win condition for your mini game and you forget to update all three of the copy pasted did-they-win methods to be the same and now the game doesn't end under several conditions...

shudders

[magic river]

That's something working the same by design so should be shared

If some snippet just so happens to be useful in another place though you should just copy/paste it

If it ends up being useful in a third place maybe make it a function, and so on

[short yarrow]

Thanks. That's helpful

[magic river]

On the other hand writing utility, data structure, and algorithm libraries is really fun so you'll probably do it anyway

[short yarrow]

That also answers my question. I was thinking of having an interface for something. Two of the classes that implements the interface will have a couple lines of exact same code, but wasn't sure if that'd be okay or not and if I should make it an abstract class instead of an interface and factor out the shared code and create a method in the abstract class

[minor badge]

you'll get the hang of when you should make stuff functions and more/less generic as you go ^^

after a few years, it'll be nature to you

[unreal quarry]

25 years in and its still not nature to me :p

[magic river]

Yeah, I still get it wrong more than I get it right but I try to stick to things 10,000 lines of code or less so it doesn't matter as much

Sorry, to convert that to Java numbers, 100,000 lines of code or less 😉

[zealous wedge]

lol

[golden gust]

spend more time getting experience with code to learn when to make the correct descisions than tryna spend time tryna abstract code out enough that it appeases the preachers

no point sitting around wasting time on a codebase which isn't even gonna get to release

[ripe sphinx]

this something where a default method would work?

[magic river]

Shipping is the most important feature

[short yarrow]

Oh hmmm. Will look at the default method. I've heard of it before

[ripe sphinx]

yup both static and default methods on interfaces are fairly useful

[merry talon]

i feel called out

i avoid shipping like the plague

[lean kiln]

<@&748618676189528155> dababy spam

[meager tusk]

lets goo?

[lean kiln]

hes a fake

real dababy doesnt have space in his name

[zealous wedge]

a fake rando?

is there a real baby?

[lean kiln]

its a rapper lol

[zealous wedge]

oh ok

[cosmic raft]

?ban 442472491605295104 spam

[leaden oxide]

Da Baby#1230 was banned | spam

[minor badge]

hewo kashike

[worn pasture]

uwu

[modest path]

da baby was banned

noooooo not da baby

shit fuck shit

[worn pasture]

[mighty storm]

da double ping

rory would be disappointed in their behaviour

[modest path]

rory cute

[untold copper]

rory epic

[worn pasture]

BLESSED

[zealous wedge]

[mighty storm]

[untold copper]

[unreal quarry]

🐳

[mighty storm]

ah yes, whales, as i like to call them water cats but big

alrright guys wish me luck gotta turn this in 5 mins

[waxen panther]

jmp purple now

[void void]

hi friends

what are the best anti-cheat plugins

[minor badge]

broccolai

[spare venture]

nice name

[left swift]

No u

How u been barthalamew

[spare venture]

fine

[mighty storm]

w

what did i do

[untold copper]

[zealous wedge]

you are the meme queen

congrats

[mighty storm]

got bruhed

[void void]

What is the best way to simulate low TPS

[lean kiln]

wdym simulate

you can easily get low tps by spawning a couple hundred villagers

[void void]

i want /settps <value> command

for testing various environments

[lean kiln]

you need to patch the server for that

but its a pretty simple patch

[void void]

oh yeah

we need mixin for that

[lean kiln]

well if its just for dev you can patch the server for yourself

[void void]

ik

[lean kiln]

no need for mixins unless your trying to modify stuff in production runtime

[meager tusk]

you can add a patch and there you go

wasn't there an attempt to get mixins into paper

not sure what it was called

[lean kiln]

there are ways to bootstrap paper with mixin

[meager tusk]

yeah

[lean kiln]

nothing official though

[meager tusk]

there was a project that did it. interesting concept

[lean kiln]

for local testing patches is easier though

like do I really want to write mixins to test simple changes

[minor badge]

</google:816176849147002923> term: Orion Minecraft github

[upbeat falcon]

Search Result 1 of 10

Orion · GitHub

https://github.com/OrionMinecraft

An organization behind the Orion project. Orion has 11 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub.

[minor badge]

i think that one did it

[meager tusk]

yeah that's the one

[untold copper]

wha...

what is that

[zealous wedge]

</google:816176849147002923> term: mineteria ignite

[upbeat falcon]

Search Result 1 of 10

com.mineteria.ignite : ignite-api - Maven Central Repository Search

https://search.maven.org/artifact/com.mineteria.ignite/ignite-api

Ignite - Bootstraps the Minecraft Server with ModLauncher to apply Mixins and Access Transformers from mods.

[zealous wedge]

that's the newer one

[minor badge]

thanks!

[void void]

thanks

[meager tusk]

that's interesting

pretty cool

idk if i'd ever use it lol i'd just make a patch if i needed to but

[waxen panther]

hello 🥺

[lean kiln]

hello !!!!

[minor badge]

[waxen panther]

wave wave wave

[meager tusk]

proxi 🥺

[merry talon]

those slash command embeds are like

far more intrusive than the old way

[meager tusk]

are they?

[potent fossil]

is Pencil a custom bot or

[lean kiln]

pretty sure sulu made it

[potent fossil]

ah

[coarse lily]

In typescript.

[potent fossil]

[coarse lily]

I think that's what sulu said shrug

[potent fossil]

i c

[meager tusk]

typescript is good

😠

[merry talon]

for certain things

[potent fossil]

eh idk, for backend things I'm nearly goddamn always using java

[meager tusk]

yes, every language is only good for certain things

[potent fossil]

im not h8ing tho

[meager tusk]

typescript is convenient for stuff like bots or web services

i tend to use java more tho cuz i'm more used to it

[merry talon]

honestly the language fundamentals are good

but I got so fucking sick of the js ecosystem and tooling

[potent fossil]

if im not using java for backend, im using kotlin, and if im not using that im usually just fucking around with some other lang that i'll end up never using again

[meager tusk]

[potent fossil]

.kill Idriz

[limber knot]

stuffs a bunch of C4 up Idriz's ass and waits for it to go off.

[meager tusk]

I'll never get used to writing kotlin

WOAH

[left swift]

Hi simp

[meager tusk]

...kinky

[potent fossil]

[meager tusk]

i just can't get used to writing kotlin

feels like a chore to write 😴

[potent fossil]

how wat

[merry talon]

go is king

write go

[meager tusk]

its weird right

like

[potent fossil]

go

[meager tusk]

i have no idea why

[merry talon]

[meager tusk]

i write kotlin for like 30 minutes and like it and then suddenly my motivation just dies

and i end up switching to java KEK

[potent fossil]

[meager tusk]

also golang is good

i haven't had a usecase for it tho

[merry talon]

anything you use java for

[left swift]

I have the same problem but instead of kotlin its life

[merry talon]

except mc

[meager tusk]

So you're saying golang server implementation

pogPause

[merry talon]

it's possible

[meager tusk]

yes i know

you can have one in python too

hmmm

[merry talon]

yeah well you can also throw babies into a bonfire

[meager tusk]

indeed.

[untold copper]

lol nyc

[potent fossil]

k

[coarse lily]

k

[untold copper]

k

[tepid turtle]

k

[merry talon]

k

[ashen cliff]

k

[void void]

my pr got merged

me then realizing i had a typo for over 5 months:

thanks mini

[vernal moth]

Pretty sure i added that

That line

I moved stuff around a bit

What's the typo?

[void void]

should be this

[vernal moth]

Oh, that dash is on the wrong side of start

Who cares

[void void]

[coarse lily]

The dash police care.

[vernal moth]

But yeah that totally was me 😂

[coarse lily]

They're coming for us all.

You've doomed us~

[vernal moth]

But thanks to the magic of force push, you get the blame!

But yeah, went thru some old PRs yesterday

[void void]

how was i gonna edit my commit else than force pushing?

[vernal moth]

Many first time contributors so that's nice

[void void]

i just amended all the time

[vernal moth]

You wouldnt, all fine

Am just saying that there is no proof that i did that typo

[coarse lily]

Mini can I submit a PR that replaces every instance of "start" with "woowooo!"

[void void]

ah cmon

[vernal moth]

No, i want paper begin and paper end

[void void]

next PR: github actions crypto miner jk

[untold copper]

thruster is coming along nicely

I think we'll do the flame next

[vernal moth]

I wanna see a nice mach diamond!

Raptor style

[ashen cliff]

Ah yes. It's that day again:

[swift root]

@twin lagoon

[twin lagoon]

[vernal moth]

Wow I wake up and we still below 100 PRs not sure if proud or disappointed

[quasi valley]

I'd spam you with irrelevant prs, but IJ still jumps out of a 50 story building when opening wsl2 projects

[twin lagoon]

kneny ur bad

[vernal moth]

It's fine for me kenny

Current eaps fixed it

[quasi valley]

I'm on that, didn't fix it for me :(

it tells me I don't have maven or a jdk on wsl, which I do

[vernal moth]

Strange

[quasi valley]

and since it's so new, I didn't find any threads on those lol

[visual egret]

hi kneny

[quasi valley]

or still getting the old https://i.imgur.com/x63IGY7.png

[vernal moth]

Try mapping your wsl thing as a network drive

Explorer, network, new network drive, \wsl$\Ubuntu -> Z:

[mental meadow]

https://twitter.com/FauthNiklas/status/1367146481262743559

Niklas Fauth (@FauthNiklas)

Day 357 of the pandemic™
I made the cat detector. https://t.co/qLYgkjQRXI https://t.co/fOAKCrN7aw

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[vernal moth]

Saw that yesterday

Amazing that you can fit a pi in there

[visual egret]

i mean, a pi can fit into anything

its tiny

[vernal moth]

Nah the normal one is rather big

It's a pi zero

[quasi valley]

now am back to https://i.imgur.com/1sfhAaZ.png

[vernal moth]

Why is it still trying to use wsl paths?

I think my IJ only uses the network mapped

Also, rip auth0

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26334516

lpage

Okta to Acquire Auth0 for $6.5B

Hacker News · Mar 3, 2021, 9:04 PM

[mental meadow]

amazing you can run tensorflow on that

[limber knot]

thats not a surprise to me, tensorflow scales well

depending on the model

its made to run on arm cause phones

[mental meadow]

Still amazing if you ask me

[olive marlin]

OVH shat itself and still hasn't recovered.

They sent email that there's an error, then shortly after that it recovered but it still doesn't work :/

[vernal moth]

Death to primitives!

https://openjdk.java.net/jeps/8259731

https://openjdk.java.net/jeps/8251554

[quasi valley]

[vernal moth]

Value types are now called primitive classes

Or primitive objects

That's missing the generic support for that

But man, valhalla is coming!

Ppl speculate that those two jeps will land in 17

As preview

[visual egret]

if it cant run tensorflow, send the image to a nasa computer

[vernal moth]

I expect mojang to do that too

Identify free block position?!

[haughty bear]

wait whats this about primitives

I'm curious

[vernal moth]

Well read the jeps

[haughty bear]

so like a struct in C#?

make your own primitives?

[vernal moth]

Kinda

But with methods

[haughty bear]

looks interesting

but not sure what advantage they would have over e.g. records or pojo's

[vernal moth]

Well, the project is literally called valhalla

It's the holy grail

[haughty bear]

what is called valhalla?

[vernal moth]

Records are objects with syntax sugar

Primitive objects here are identify free

Easy on GC, passed by value, etc

And if we then get the 3rd jep, primitive objects as generics

We can basically nuke fast util 😂

[haughty bear]

fastutil?

[vernal moth]

The jar size would go down significantly

Fast util is a collection lib that provides primitive types

Like object to int hashmaps

Where int is primitive, not the wrapper integer

[haughty bear]

ok this does look cool

[vernal moth]

The wrappers are expensive

This basically deletes the wrappers

[haughty bear]

so you can have Map<Whatever, int>?

[vernal moth]

And there will be no difference between int and Integer anymore

Yes, that's the missing part

[haughty bear]

looks cool then

[vernal moth]

It's pretty big

That's, plus the syntax sugar from project amber (all the pattern matching stuff!), Plus loom (user mode threads!) And the future looks really really bright

Valhalla also wants generic enums i think

if (obj instanceof String s && s.length() > 5)

This is java 16 already iirc

[quasi valley]

Point pi; // stores a Point object
Point.ref pr; // stores a reference to a Point

heh

[vernal moth]

Out of preview

[patent delta]

this is sick

[void void]

[quasi valley]

"Java's generics are designed to only work with reference types, but a separate JEP will enhance generics to interoperate with primitive value types."

let's see

[void void]

in english please?

[haughty bear]

you can do Map<String, int> instead of Map<String, Integer>

[quasi valley]

if you have a class with a generic type like class Hello<T> that T can't be a primitive, so you can't have a Hello<int>

[haughty bear]

generics can hold primitives as well as actual objects

*in the JEP

[quasi valley]

in what jep

[haughty bear]

the one linked above

[quasi valley]

mini sent two

[haughty bear]

one of them

[quasi valley]

yeah I was reading the other 😂

[haughty bear]

not sure which I don't know how to read

[void void]

ah and they are gonna add that?

[quasi valley]

yeah this ones makes you add your own primitive types https://openjdk.java.net/jeps/8251554

and this one makes you use primitive types in generics (I think, haven't properly read it) https://openjdk.java.net/jeps/8259731

as mini said, that second one would allow you to have something like List<int> instead of List<Integer>, meaning those list values don't have to be boxed and unboxed constantly (int <-> Integer)

[limber knot]

What about my nullables, though? Optional<int> I suppose?

[quasi valley]

>optional

[limber knot]

That would actually probably just become a primitive in itself I'd assume, since it's so smol

[vernal moth]

The second one replaces are wrappers with primitive classes

It doesn't allow primitive classes as generics yet

That's seperate, pretty sure

[quasi valley]

ah lol yeah should have read it

"This JEP does not address the interaction of primitive value types, including int, double, etc., with Java's generics. "

[vernal moth]

Cool thing, if they make optional a primitive, there's no overhead anymore?

[limber knot]

Yeah, but after that one. Will we lose Integer's nullability?

[quasi valley]

still ugly tho

[vernal moth]

That's interesting, can primitive objects be null?

[quasi valley]

https://openjdk.java.net/jeps/8251554 the new primitive type concept in general (not sure if that applies to the existing ones) has you use .ref for nullability

[limber knot]

No, Mini

[quasi valley]

https://i.imgur.com/xNNPl9V.png

[limber knot]

That's dumb, kneny

[quasi valley]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[potent fossil]

Yeah I'm not sure how I feel about that

[limber knot]

I'll go for my Optionals in that case :>

[vernal moth]

That smells like c++ pointers 😂

[quasi valley]

>>>>>optionals

[limber knot]

Optionals are great! :(

[vernal moth]

Well, it's all a draft for a preview features

[quasi valley]

no u

but not optionals

[vernal moth]

Its meant to be used to gather feedback

I am sure the mailing list is exploding rn

[limber knot]

@NonNull Optional<@NonNull int> wen ?

get fricken knenimsy .

[potent fossil]

😠

[quasi valley]

but this is so sexy https://i.imgur.com/BLBOhG9.png

[potent fossil]

oh yus

[quasi valley]

it doesn't look like they want to get rid of the current boxed types they do

at least by the examples they've given

still has Integer and so on

[limber knot]

I hope they do

[quasi valley]

I thought you didn't like .ref

[vernal moth]

Maybe they will just move the methods of the wrappers to the new primitive objects?

[limber knot]

I don't! I like optionals :)

[quasi valley]

go to sponge dev then >:(

[vernal moth]

In other news, sunde is such a savage https://twitter.com/brokep/status/1367432268600467456?s=19

Peter Sunde Kolmisoppi (@brokep)

Hi, I really do hope I get to be an @ICANN fellow.

Twitter · Mar 4, 2021, 11:10 AM

[limber knot]

ok maybe i WILL

[quasi valley]

and take your optionals with you >:(((

[vernal moth]

(co-founder pirate bay, banned from icann cause reasons nobody understands)

[limber knot]

no, kneny

they're being left behind here

[quasi valley]

there are none here, luckily

[limber knot]

For now. For now.

[quasi valley]

I will eat you if that happens

[limber knot]

I will merge 1 (one) Optional for you.

[quasi valley]

[void void]

i started using optionals everywhere once i made my motd plugin support sponge

[quasi valley]

nvm they also want to move the current primitive types to that new concept

[limber knot]

Hm?

[quasi valley]

like Integer as a primtivie class and Integer.ref as references (or whatever the base class will look like)

[limber knot]

yeah

[quasi valley]

it'll definitely interesting to see how they end up going through with that / nullability

[limber knot]

Optional!

[quasi valley]

nooooooooo

[limber knot]

primitive optional! No overhead!

[quasi valley]

but still ugly methods and a tooooon of extra checks and lines added if you use more than like 1-2 optionals in a method

[topaz mortar]

Just throw a language feature in: int?

[quasi valley]

either by having to get their actual value out, or by going nested with ifPresent

what I'm waiting for is to be able to define methods on a (primitive) vector for example to just use +-*/ on them instead of having to call such a method yourself

[topaz mortar]

Want them to pull Kotlin features into the Java language.

[vernal moth]

Operator overloading sadly is confusing

Cause you have no docs on what it actually does

Especially when you mix types

[topaz mortar]

Yeah that isn't a no brainer you need to look into JavaDocs.

[untold meadow]

does anyone know if team colour can be a decoration? according to to https://wiki.vg/Protocol#Teams they can be, but according to https://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Scoreboard#Teams they can't

[quasi valley]

yes iirc

[untold meadow]

why didn't they think of a better word than colour 😔

[quasi valley]

it's called color, not colour

[untold meadow]

so should Team#colour() accept and return something different to TextColor?

[mental meadow]

It's called leviosa not leviosa

[untold meadow]

also wtf would be an alternative name for it... decoration? style? i hate english

[quasi valley]

Formatting

bukkit's team crap accepts chatcolor, does it not? (which includes all formatting)

[untold meadow]

yeah it does, it's just the adventure addition that doesn't

[quasi valley]

ah

[untold meadow]

so idk what color would return if you do setColor(BOLD) for example

[quasi valley]

where exactly are those adventure team methods?

[untold meadow]

https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/blob/master/Spigot-Server-Patches/0010-Adventure.patch#L2996

so it throws an IllegalStateException

[quasi valley]

interesting, yeah

[untold meadow]

the docs don't even make much sense either @param color new color, must be non-null. Use {@link ChatColor#RESET} for no color

on it already

[quasi valley]

mojang using legacy text for chunk debug data https://i.imgur.com/mlp4M6n.png

[untold meadow]

damn implementing adventure in minestom has lead me to find bugs in paper now

what a journey

[tropic flame]

has an old HP printer
printer's control panel won't work without Flash Player for Internet Explorer
has to edit flash player with a hex editor so i remove the time bomb that blocks it from working

beautiful

thanks, Adobe

and HP

but mostly adobe

[visual egret]

nah

thanks, hp

[untold copper]

Now I need to make a giant flame coming out of the thruster

[visual egret]

fireball into dispenser

:)

just a bit expensive

[untold copper]

thats not a giant flame

or any flame at all tbh

[visual egret]

then use 100000 dispensers

ez

[untold copper]

bruh no

[visual egret]

ngl people asking for help in spigot discord are just another level

why is my server randomy restarting??/!!?

offline mode
cracked cmi
cracked shopgui

probably more if i was bothered to look through the logs

[untold copper]

lol

[autumn glen]

Does anyone know any plugin that gives you a daily task ( for ex mine 500 dirt ) and then you can reward the player with in-game currency? ( Or basically run a command after the task is complete )?

[visual egret]

ooh that sounds interesting

[waxen panther]

the jobs plugin has quests

it is a zrips plugin though......

[astral knot]

Google also comes up with this thing

https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/dailyquests.84558/

To anyone's knowledge, has anyone made a SLP response sender script?
I know many people have made receivers, but what about something that spoofs a response...

i.e. a using the SLP protocol to fake a server existing.
https://wiki.vg/Server_List_Ping

This would be useful for hosting a msg like "This server is currently down for maintenance" or "this server has permanently shut-down; please see this msg".

[visual egret]

I remember one somewhere

[astral knot]

😮

Is it that UDP one for LAN?

[visual egret]

i dont remember what it was called but it was exactly for that purpose motd and stuff

[astral knot]

🤔

I googled around for a bit, but wasn't able to find it

[vernal moth]

Idk what you want?

[astral knot]

The exact opposite of https://github.com/deathcap/node-minecraft-ping

[vernal moth]

Do you want smth that answers a server list ping or smth that does a server list ping?

[astral knot]

Answers

[vernal moth]

Both i have written before multiple times

[astral knot]

😮

Have a public repo with it? ❤️

[vernal moth]

https://github.com/MiniDigger/MiniCraft/blob/master/src/main/java/me/minidigger/minicraft/server/MiniServerPacketHandler.java#L78

The whole repo has both client and server

[astral knot]

Thanks!

[vernal moth]

But it's possible to do it much simple if you just read the docs and read the bytes individually

[astral knot]

My goal is to basically make a sender and host it on a complete potato

So the absolute shittiest computer ever to be able to interact with a client's ping.

[vernal moth]

Don't call it a sender that's super confusing

It's a server

[astral knot]

ah

I assumed that, since people won't actually connect to it, it wasn't a server

but I guess querying it makes it a server

Although, then again, "minecraft server list ping server" returns no results

[visual egret]

wiki.vg has a table with server implementations

[vernal moth]

Oh course they connect to it

[visual egret]

many are unfinished, so you can just use those

[vernal moth]

Of*

[visual egret]

since they are pretty light

[vernal moth]

They just don't join

[worn ember]

It gives something to the sender. So it serves. Aka server

10/10 english

[astral knot]

Unrelated note, I think I managed to find the potato

Should probably use tiny core linux though

[limber knot]

that seems expensive

https://i.jamierocks.uk/mmxxi/aZhS7bBGDL.png DigitalOcean pricing

[mossy vessel]

A very expensive potato

[heady cradle]

theres this plugin that is open source, but it doesnt have worldguard support.
How much would it cost for someone to link it with WorldGuard?

[quasi valley]

hetzner 2.50€ per month

[astral knot]

11 usd per year?

seems pretty cheap to me

[limber knot]

not for those specs

[quasi valley]

o per year?

okay didnt see that

[mossy vessel]

Yes kenni

[limber knot]

oh per year, wow

[upbeat kelp]

what does aternos use to host

[limber knot]

is that the paper fork?

[astral knot]

no; it's one of those free hosts

[limber knot]

also pity hetzner don't have datacentres in the uk

[upbeat kelp]

does aternos run on lemons

[astral knot]

Considering the fact that they don't post their specs unless you login to their website, I am going to guess lemons

wait, might have found it on a forum post

[untold meadow]

are the fade in/fade out/stay times client ticks or server ticks?

i presume client

[haughty bear]

there's no difference?

[astral knot]

nvm, even their answers are a bit vague

[haughty bear]

it's just 20 ticks = 1 second

[untold meadow]

oh yeh but im working on a server software that lets you change the tps

[haughty bear]

oh no clue then

[warm anchor]

They run on the broken hope and dreams of those who wanna spend nothing on a MC server.

[astral knot]

And who wanted to keep their data secure
https://privacyreport.org/en/breach/aternos-sd

[visual egret]

spigot is another breed

people asking how to host dynmap on aternos

and they get mad when we tell them to take a bit to self host to learn how to use a server

[mental meadow]

.mini

[limber knot]

https://xkcd.com/323/

xkcd: Ballmer Peak

Apple uses automated schnapps IVs.

(Korobi) xkcd: Ballmer Peak (1 October 2007)

its not 4 yet!

today is after work meeting with (ex)azubis

[mental meadow]

had to show alice 😄

[limber knot]

so Ill get drunk at 18:39

30*

[mental meadow]

sounds like a good time to do some work

[merry talon]

wtf is privacy report?

a HIBP rip off?

[worn ember]

3

For me at least

[minor badge]

taxes doe

[worn ember]

i agree we should tax doe's

[ashen cliff]

https://jessimekirk.com/youtube_gh_pages/

Nice.

[merry talon]

A front-end template that helps you build fast, modern mobile web apps.

[olive garden]

wtf my wsl default directory changed to /

[cunning raft]

been like that for for a while for me

[upper flicker]

mine always opens to the windows mnt user profile

really annoying

[twin lagoon]

i use genie-systemd and i think it sets it to $HOME everytime luckily

[upper flicker]

I had that changed before but apparently never did it here

[twin lagoon]

also if you're not using genie-systemd already ur missing out

[olive garden]

my default user directory used to be the windows user directory, so I had a script to change that to the linux user dir, but it just changed to / for no reason

nvm restarting this pc fixed it

:dab:

[visual egret]

I use windows terminal, so i just changed starting dir to my partition i allocated to code

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[olive garden]

oh, I didn't know I could do that

let me migrate to that

[pearl vapor]

Is it at all possible to change the piston push limit with a plugin?'

[visual egret]

Probably make it shorter, maybe not longer though

[upper flicker]

do not believe its exposed

we could look into it but liable to get fun and inconsistent results out of the game

[visual egret]

👀

[merry talon]

if you use windows terminal you can set a default directory in the config

[visual egret]

thats what i do

i love the new windows terminal

[merry talon]

not home right now but it should be easy to find

[visual egret]

            {
                "guid": "{2c4de342-38b7-51cf-b940-2309a097f518}",
                "hidden": false,
                "name": "Ubuntu",
                "source": "Windows.Terminal.Wsl",
                "colorScheme": "horizon-dark",
                "startingDirectory" : "H:\\"
            },

[merry talon]

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/terminal/customize-settings/profile-general#:~:text=If you run Windows Terminal,menu%3A C%3A\windows\system32

yeah

and fwiw I think it has to be the windows version of the location

so wsl$/ whatever bs

[upper flicker]

gross

I must've missed that when I was copying my profiles over

or maybe I had some jank solution somewhere else

[waxen panther]

@twin lagoon x

[merry talon]

cd in .zshrc

i assume everyone uses zsh

i switched to fish not too long ago

though I thought z was a mac weirdo

[upper flicker]

I use windows, mac, and linux on a regular basis

all on zsh though because I like for stuff to be portable

so they gotta be the same

[visual egret]

i just found a bug in powershell or windows terminal

[limber knot]

oskar the destroyer of applications

[visual egret]

its a windows terminal bug

if you open the default powershell window and hold down shift+enter a stacktrace eventually shows

Exception:
System.ArgumentOutOfRangeException: The value must be greater than or equal to zero and less than the console's buffer size in that dimension.
Parameter name: top
Actual value was -28.
   at System.Console.SetCursorPosition(Int32 left, Int32 top)
   at Microsoft.PowerShell.PSConsoleReadLine.ReallyRender(RenderData renderData, String defaultColor)
   at Microsoft.PowerShell.PSConsoleReadLine.ForceRender()
   at Microsoft.PowerShell.PSConsoleReadLine.Insert(Char c)
   at Microsoft.PowerShell.PSConsoleReadLine.ProcessOneKey(ConsoleKeyInfo key, Dictionary`2 dispatchTable, Boolean ignoreIfNoAction, Object arg)
   at Microsoft.PowerShell.PSConsoleReadLine.InputLoop()
   at Microsoft.PowerShell.PSConsoleReadLine.ReadLine(Runspace runspace, EngineIntrinsics engineIntrinsics)

weirdchamp

https://github.com/PowerShell/PSReadLine/issues/2267 nvm someone got it 2 hours ago

[limber knot]

Ew, that's some badly formatted issue

[visual egret]

agreed

[runic shale]

What happens when you drop your stuff in the end it just disappears

is it because of the tps?

[visual egret]

?

because when stuff goes into the void it gets killed

[runic shale]

No it disappears when I drop it on the ground in the end

[visual egret]

#paper-help

[untold copper]

@unreal quarry did you go to watch the terminator when it released in the cinemas?

[unreal quarry]

@untold copper i was only 6 months old when it released :p

but maybe, if my parents went to see it and took me

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[untold copper]

did you see the terminator 2?

I just watched it for the 5th time

Just as good

[unreal quarry]

its the best one \o/

[untold copper]

yes \o/

imdb 8.5

damn

[minor badge]

Commented on it with better repro steps :)

[untold copper]

o.O @unreal quarry you must have gone to see the matrix then

that is a great movie

I gotta watch it again

they messed up the terminator timeline

pity

[visual egret]

If you hold down the up arrow it also has the same issue btw

[limber knot]

invasion of the paper devs

[olive marlin]

What if I hold up the down arrow?

[visual egret]

hmm it took me like 20 seconds at most

nothing prof

[small sonnet]

Anyone know how to make it where i can do commands in game?

[visual egret]

?

[untold copper]

/op

[olive marlin]

Give yourself proper permissions?

[zealous wedge]

#paper-help

[visual egret]

Snoopa u ok

permission plugins who needs them amiright

[untold copper]

lol

[tepid turtle]

who needs a perms plugin when you can just /op yourself /s

[compact pulsar]

New mountains

[vernal moth]

Bedrock

That's a bedrock release

It's irrelevant for java

For now anyways

You can see it just in the lighting that it's bedrock 😂

[olive marlin]

Does bedrock really have so harsh light?

[spare venture]

Feature parity

[visual egret]

whats up party

[vernal moth]

Wishful thinking

[vernal moth]

time to merge some more PRs

any volunteers?

[olive garden]

me

[vernal moth]

I mean PRs 😄

[limber knot]

https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/pull/5127 👀

[olive garden]

https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/pull/5149

[minor badge]

imagine bothering to merge shit smh

going to bed now good night .

[vernal moth]

sleep well

gotta love those PRs with no comments and stuff

[cunning raft]

https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/pull/3085

[zealous wedge]

night proxi

merge me mini

[vernal moth]

trig your contribution is BoRInG

[limber knot]

Hey I got my own treasure map thing too: https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/pull/3559

nice one

[olive garden]

I wanted to be easy on you :(

but then here you go: https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/pull/4173

[limber knot]

yes :)

[vernal moth]

no I mean boring as in nobody bothered to comment

[olive garden]

I bet you don't dare to merge that one

oh

but it fixes a real issue! 1 person complained!!!

[olive garden]

<3

[olive marlin]

I get more spam on IRC than on Discord for some reason.

Why would people be spamming non-sense sentences? Other than to just spam.

[limber knot]

the only spam I get here is in #spigot at the spigot irc network

[olive marlin]

I keep getting random dms

[limber knot]

Never got any random dms so far

[upper flicker]

I got some on freenode a week or so ago

they seem to have cleaned it up okay

[limber knot]

I never went there to be fully honest

[upper flicker]

just another network, has some linux and foss stuff on it

[merry talon]

they still have the weird rules where you aren't supposed to stay opped in a channel?

[upper flicker]

uh, maybe - the one channel I created Im not an op in anymore

[mental meadow]

god who tf designed adobe premiere
When you export something and select "GIF", you get each frame in a seperate .gif file. You gotta select "Animated GIF"

[merry talon]

my experiences there have always been people trying to help me as little as humanly possible

[cunning raft]

they are technically different things

[upper flicker]

Ive seen some people help a lot, some help none at all

usually Im just there to lurk on the discussions for when something interesting comes up

[cunning raft]

iirc the gif format was first made without animation

[mental meadow]

I know

[merry talon]

speaking of gif

[mental meadow]

but fuck getting 500 single frame gif files

[mental meadow]

this is a good gif

Post it in #gifs-and-memes so I can pin it there

[merry talon]

it's 8mb lol

[mental meadow]

worth it

[limber knot]

Oo, I'm getting emails for resource updates, fancy

[mental meadow]

telegram does not support transparency in gifs 😦

[merry talon]

telegram doesn't support your happiness

[worn ember]

[ashen cliff]

Looks normal.

Really want to run MC on an unstable RPI again.

[left swift]

Smh

[tame lantern]

UMMM

[olive marlin]

Me too. And today I've been getting them whole day too.

[limber knot]

I haven't gotten any today, or really since that bad day a week or so ago :/

I didn't get any 😎

but mcdevs is the only channel im in on freenode, so eh

[worn ember]

[left swift]

IRC

[quasi valley]

yeah it's quite smelly down there

[olive marlin]

Sadly a lot of open source projects are only available there.

I wouldn't even be on IRC, if esper supported matrix.

[left swift]

I was finally unlazy and setup my nameless site yay

[tidal ravine]

Hello does somone know a Faction plugin that supports bungeecord I searched threw the whole internet and cant find anything

[vernal bone]

By bungeecord support what do you mean?

[tidal ravine]

ability to sync database between mutiple server

[wild escarp]

I searched threw the whole internet

[tidal ravine]

or thats it is easyer to setup

Does a plugin support multi-server configuration?, I'm looking for a factions solution with synchronization feature

[wraith trail]

Plugins can do that. Most do not.

[vernal bone]

Sync factions between multiple servers as syncing the claims or stuff, or how? 🤔

[wraith trail]

And just because it supports a database does not mean you can do that

[worn ember]

i can, can you tho

[left swift]

I support databases why cant u sulu

Plug in play on the port in the back of my head

[tidal ravine]

no sync of the claims only of the group

[vernal moth]

https://i.imgur.com/KO5q9Ed.png

whats happening

more merges than new PRs ?!

[ashen cliff]

[mental meadow]

dw

that will change soon enough again

[zealous wedge]

aurora's gonna save us from a shortened PR backlog 💜

[wraith oracle]

once 1.17 is released I guess

[ashen cliff]

People just holding back PRs to give you some free time.

[worn ember]

just gotta yeet the skeet you know

hoop the poop

[limber knot]

Nah, it just means that Paper is getting more and more perfect

[tidal ravine]

😭

[ashen cliff]

Accepting compromises is the only way to achieve perfection.

[olive garden]

perfection

[spare venture]

How smoothly has the adventure stuff gone?

[ashen cliff]

Look up.

[spare venture]

Guess I’ll be staying out of date a little longer?

[wraith oracle]

it works pretty well

[wraith trail]

stuff you wouldn't expect

[wraith oracle]

it is mainly plugins doing some weird stuff that have been broken

[spare venture]

Nothing major has happened lately so I can afford to be out of date

[wraith trail]

there have been more than one person in #paper-help have picking up water stop working because of some weird plugin

and I can't see how that has naything to do with adventure

[left swift]

That you know of party

[spare venture]

Hmm I meant just like chat in general being fucked

And I’m a little too busy to fix all of my plugins for it atm

[wraith trail]

actually no that was just one guy, other had something logged in the chat whenever he used a bucket

[vernal moth]

those commits are old

[spare venture]

Oh

Date is cropped out so

I’ve had like zero motivation to work on my plugins lately

Life has been too busy and burnout

[topaz mortar]

You want a date?

[spare venture]

Nah all good

I can look at their commit history later

[visual egret]

warzone is a perfectly optimised game

[ashen cliff]

I think you just have memory issues.

[twin lagoon]

^

do a memtest

[cunning raft]

yeah you just run super jank shit

[ashen cliff]

At least my Slav jank works.

[visual egret]

i cant do that on windows right

[mental meadow]

you don't do a memtest on a running system

[visual egret]

well i have a spare usb

[tepid turtle]

download memtest86 and put on usb and boot from it

[spare venture]

War zone works on ps5 😛

[visual egret]

im planning to buy some new ram for my birthday anyway

https://www.memtest86.com/ this right?

[tepid turtle]

yes

download free version

[visual egret]

ok i flashed my usb

[tepid turtle]

now reboot from that usb

(it needs to support uefi booting)

[ashen cliff]

Supporting both BIOS and UEFI

[tepid turtle]

v9 only does uefi

As MemTest86 V9 supports only the newer UEFI platform, older PCs without UEFI support would be unable to boot MemTest86. In order to run MemTest86, PCs with legacy BIOS platform must use the older V4 release of MemTest86. The download links for the V4 downloads are still provided for those that prefer to work with the V4 bootable images.

[visual egret]

It’s doing something

[ashen cliff]

Bruh.

[visual egret]

wasn’t bios deprecated in 2012

[twin lagoon]

it can take quite some time oskar fyi

[ashen cliff]

Need to whoop PassMark back to there they came from.

[tepid turtle]

it can take several hours to complete

[visual egret]

How do I know when it’s done tho

[twin lagoon]

you'll see

[ashen cliff]

It tells you it passed.

Now run the rowhammer test with a single core on a 4TB server for 10 days.

[tepid turtle]

(or failed for too many errors )

[visual egret]

How much tests are there

[tepid turtle]

13

[visual egret]

Cool I’m on test 10

And it’s all down 4 times right

[tepid turtle]

yes

unless you changed it

[wraith trail]

the number of tests is different based on what option you select

[visual egret]

I didn’t touch my keyboard

[wraith trail]

wow oskar has a better system than me

feels bad

[vernal bone]

I keep having the same crashes with win7, but Windows 10 fixed my ram

[ashen cliff]

https://posili.me/i/2021-03-04_21-52-27.png

No one tell him.

[tepid turtle]

[visual egret]

I told myself krusic

[ashen cliff]

Daily reminder that LGA3647 does not exist.

[worn ember]

Daily reminder that daily reminder does not exist

[ashen cliff]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[visual egret]

Pass 2

[visual egret]

Pass 3

[vivid ivy]

[olive garden]

I also run on 4 ram sticks, what a coincidence

[vivid ivy]

i couldn't help but laugh at that phrasing

[tepid turtle]

4 ram sticks or 4gb ram?

[left swift]

I just use 4 sticks

U guys got that ram

[visual egret]

Pass 4

[golden gust]

mbax, you sooon of a bitch

[ashen cliff]

Cat back at it again.

[golden gust]

message I posted in the dev channel for adventure earlier

[ashen cliff]

Yes.

[visual egret]

@twin lagoon @tepid turtle

so... we blame warzone?

[twin lagoon]

n

could still be your hardware

or a driver issue

[visual egret]

hmm

I’m thinking of saving up for a new GPU or buying ram

[thorny totem]

I do now say hosting a Windoge server is shiz... RDP session freezing while downloading a backup, then on the server side it causes a massive CPU spike and crashes all servers until I relaunch the session. God bless Linux

[meager tusk]

Daily reminder that green strip is the best bro.

[ashen cliff]

No bro!

Blue STRIP BEST BRO!

@vale rune better agree otherwise his admin rank is null and void.

[meager tusk]

Bro. I will give him Admin rank on my CS 1.6 server.

He will get a free model and really cool commands bro.

M-m-m-monster kill.

[vale rune]

Bruh. There is no Admin rank in servers running KGB-Hosting hierarchy.

[twin lagoon]

https://www.kgb-hosting.com/ why is that an actual thing

[ashen cliff]

YES!

[vale rune]

YES!

[ashen cliff]

PREMIUM LOKACIJA!

Serbia bro!

[vale rune]

FACT BROTHER!

LITE LOKACIJA = DE!

[meager tusk]

What is Serbia bro?

Do you mean Kosovo?

🇽🇰

[ashen cliff]

https://posili.me/i/2021-03-04_23-33-03.png
https://posili.me/i/2021-03-04_23-33-09.png

[vale rune]

Bro, always bro.

This Discord: ^.

[meager tusk]

Bro! KGB hosting better than western capitalist hosting.

[ashen cliff]

Fact!

[meager tusk]

Western hosting lag bro.

[vale rune]

Their ToS was legit just null a few months ago.

[meager tusk]

Eastern hosting - Host cs 1.6 uptime 12/3!

[ashen cliff]

Provided by KGB hosting: https://posili.me/i/2021-03-04_23-34-53.png

[meager tusk]

2 years non stop CS 1.6 bro!

[ashen cliff]

Fact BRO!

[vale rune]

#paper-test-builds:

[meager tusk]

2 years of b42 b17 o1-o7 .,.,.,

[vale rune]

BRO!

[meager tusk]

Roman empire is offbrand romania!

Fact!

[twin lagoon]

@mossy vessel

[meager tusk]

Michael, LC on KGB hosting

get on it

[mossy vessel]

[twin lagoon]

KGB hosting 5950x

[meager tusk]

Michael it has Albanian bro we have to buy KGB hosting.

[ashen cliff]

Bro! They have PREMIUM CPU bro!

[twin lagoon]

we'll buy KGB hosting completely

the entire company

[thorny totem]

KGB , RGB ?