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hot hamlet
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Thank you :D. Googling that question was a rabbit hole

wraith trail
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everyone will have different opinions

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some people swear by centos

twin lagoon
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fuck centos

wraith trail
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yeah centos is kinda pain

hot hamlet
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Though why Minimal.

limber knotBOT
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Arch ftw

wraith trail
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because you don't need lamp

golden gust
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can confirm, fuck centos

twin lagoon
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fuck centos, fuck rhel, fuck selinux

golden gust
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Just, yea

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fuck rhel in general

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selinux is nice though

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you fuck

hot hamlet
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What about WiNdOwS sErVeR eDiTiOn

golden gust
twin lagoon
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maybe

golden gust
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(I just wanted to link the thing)

twin lagoon
left swift
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Ubuntu pokiEars

twin lagoon
olive marlin
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I'm stuck on Ubuntu now cause Cat pooped on my Arch drive PepeHands

meager holly
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debian bcs im russian

twin lagoon
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weird reason to choose debian but i don't hate your decision

dim shadow
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dont use a distro just use the default linux

wraith trail
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yes default linux

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of course, what everyone uses

olive marlin
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Just make a distro yourself.

dim shadow
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linus torvalds' linux

potent fossil
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oh it is far too early for nightcore

dim shadow
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k so mi discord monitor is liek flickerin n shit

potent fossil
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k

dim shadow
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i feel like it about to blow up kinda

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ill hold off the paranoia till i hear noises doe

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so yea anyone else in wintermode america?

left swift
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What language are you speaking

dim shadow
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who me?

mental meadow
magic river
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The best answer to what distro to use is always ubuntu

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Although try to avoid the snaps

zealous wedge
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ok ubuntu member

mental meadow
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zml ❤️

zealous wedge
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aurora 💜

potent fossil
mental meadow
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😦

worn ember
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ah yes the classic

potent fossil
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aurora opened my snap but didnt respond

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k

upper flicker
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just like everyone else

potent fossil
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z that was just mean

upper flicker
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sorry, love you simple 😦

potent fossil
mental meadow
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i never respond 😦

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i feel bad

mossy vessel
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simple panda_clap

potent fossil
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nmf pepelove

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another non-responder

mossy vessel
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:(

upper flicker
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wow nmf wtf

mossy vessel
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I'm trying my best, buuut sometimes I just forget it

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sowwy

golden gust
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literally the worse

potent fossil
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its ok me too i ignored u for like a week once

twin lagoon
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you all suck

mossy vessel
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very rude

olive marlin
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Michale sucks most.

twin lagoon
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@mossy vessel meowhuggies

mossy vessel
mental meadow
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I used to be really invested into snapchat and had 600 streaks stuff 😄 but I noticed that it really stressed me

potent fossil
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i dont care about streaks i just wanna see everyone's beautiful faces to brighten this very dull life i am living

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i mean what

mossy vessel
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🔥 it is

cedar spade
mental meadow
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i send a face snap!!

golden gust
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no response

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gratz, u killed 'im

potent fossil
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i just responded so fuq u

warm anchor
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Lmao

cedar spade
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yeah cat

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duh

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Idk I just felt like joining in

worn ember
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request timed out

potent fossil
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ok fuck my life i need to finish annotating these graphs so i can walk fellow physics students through basic one dimensional (????) pendulum motion!!!!!

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tomorrow is truly gonna be a joy

spare venture
potent fossil
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that buying UX almost reminds me of runescape's GE

spare venture
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that's part of the inspiration of this plugin

potent fossil
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well it worked for those that know how the GE works

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noice

potent fossil
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its position is cosine

spare venture
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cosine, it's literally in there

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thank you simp 😄

worn ember
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bruh

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its the same wave still

spare venture
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no

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sine is shifted

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dummy

worn ember
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wtf stop bullying me

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my understanding of math stops at functions

potent fossil
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however the point is that we had to do an experiment and measure its position with a camera and manually add keyframes to track the pendulum in a different program which generated experimental data measurements, then we just used the theoretical simple pendulum equations w/ a phase angle to make the theoretical data close to our experimental data

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it's close to a cosine wave at this point but not quite, as it starts at 0.06 and goes to ~-0.09

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instead of 1 to -1

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i hung the pendulum from another swinging mass as well tho, so that probably fucked shit up

golden gust
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god, I think i was a player when the GE was first released

worn ember
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🤓

potent fossil
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it's kind of a massive gif so just wait

upper flicker
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no, make it load faster

worn ember
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lol that tracking seems very consistent

golden gust
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looks shit

potent fossil
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i had to click like 1400 times for the entire tracking

worn ember
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oh you did it manually

potent fossil
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yes lmao

spare venture
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that sounds very fun

worn ember
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i thought it was auto tracked

golden gust
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Too small

potent fossil
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the program we were using has auto tracking but it needs an extremely high contrast

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i didn't have enough

upper flicker
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yeah you gotta pre-process the image

golden gust
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Well, I mean

worn ember
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enhance the contrast

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ez

golden gust
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It was clearly the wrong color

potent fossil
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well, fuq

spare venture
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tbh i would've fucked with the contrast rather than manually adding tracking lol

upper flicker
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looks like enough contrast, and no worry about detail, you could put it through a filter and crank it into an alpha channel

golden gust
upper flicker
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there you go

potent fossil
golden gust
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INDUSTRY APPROVED U FUQ

potent fossil
spare venture
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lmao

golden gust
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||looks like my teenage bedroom wall||

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Pure jokes, but, I had to

worn ember
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looks like cats face

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pubes all over

spare venture
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nice thing about college labs is they care more about your analysis than if the data is correct. unless you're taking ochem

golden gust
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I think i might have been up for too long

potent fossil
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also wtf my axes are off on the experimental graph KEKWHYPER

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fuck

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ah shit they're all like that

upper flicker
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🪓

golden gust
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tick tock on the clock

worn ember
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predicted: -1->1
actual: -20->20

golden gust
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PUT THE PARTY ON STOP

upper flicker
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wtf

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go to bed cat

potent fossil
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it approximates the shape of a cosine wave depending on your amplitude and angle that you lift it to

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for a perfect pendulum it would be 1 to -1

upper flicker
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do not fall asleep on the keyboard

potent fossil
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obviously we can't make a perfect pendulum

upper flicker
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we do not need you muting everyone again

left swift
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I love it when u talk graphs to us simp

worn ember
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sure you can, just gotta go to space

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wait

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theres no gravity there

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fuck

golden gust
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That happened once

potent fossil
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well, there is, just not g

golden gust
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and, I stand by my actions

upper flicker
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ackshually

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jeez beat me to it

zealous wedge
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cat can you "fall asleep" and only mute Z this time? :p

golden gust
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imagine how nice this place would be if it was muted

upper flicker
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please mute z instead

zealous wedge
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actually, muting everyone would be nicer

worn ember
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inb4 z750 deletes the discord

spare venture
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ugh i'm having a laziness crisis. don't want to cook my own food but also don't want to scrape tons of snow/ice off my car

upper flicker
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has crossed everyone's mind once or twice

golden gust
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We took that power away from him

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true

worn ember
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who has the power now? kash?

upper flicker
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yes

worn ember
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@ kash plz delet

spare venture
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wouldnt it show a crown next to his username

worn ember
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you can disable that i think

upper flicker
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crown goes away when you give any other user the admin role

spare venture
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oh

golden gust
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no, because more than one person with manage perms ^

spare venture
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i thought it just went to the person who "owned" the guild

worn ember
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no crowns in democracy

mental meadow
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kash doesnt need a crown to be epic

golden gust
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nah, but he'd look pretty bitchin' with one

upper flicker
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he would

spare venture
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you know you guys used to hate on my ticket system on discord, but its pretty nice, especially when i'm on top of the tickets

upper flicker
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I can see having a feed for ticket updates or something

worn ember
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i'd rather have a web interface for that tbh

golden gust
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looks dumb

spare venture
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it's really convenient to be able to talk to them

mental meadow
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dont worry we cant hate on you for other reasons

upper flicker
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but I know people who do like all ticket management via discord (or slack, or teams or blehehfhsfahf)

left swift
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Why not just make a forums at that point Barty

upper flicker
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and that sounds awful

limber knotBOT
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yeah, ticket management via discord is pretty dumb

golden gust
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I just don't see how it would scale at all

limber knotBOT
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imagine having 200 tickets open 👀

golden gust
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I mean, if you only got like a few peeps complaining, but, like, looks dum

spare venture
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because 1. no one wants to sign up for forums 2. discord is good for live chatting 3. discord is just easier

limber knotBOT
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Too many categories

worn ember
golden gust
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don't need to sign up for forums

limber knotBOT
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I just do tickets ingame ¯_(ツ)_/¯

spare venture
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forums are outdated1outdated2outdated3

mental meadow
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just dont do tickets 😄

left swift
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If ppl need help just tell them you hate them and then block them everywhere

golden gust
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Like, proper ticket management solutions can literally be 100% email based

spare venture
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we have had 200 tickets open before phoenix and it was fine

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people don't check their email

mental meadow
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oh god now I have to think about OTRS

spare venture
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people respond to pings on discord

limber knotBOT
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why cater to idiots though?

spare venture
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because every player is an idiot

golden gust
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I mean

mental meadow
worn ember
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cuz its the idiots that pay for stupid ranks

limber knotBOT
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so why cater to them?

golden gust
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barty gotta get people somehow

spare venture
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if someone has an issue, i want to solve it, not say "Hey ur too dumb no fix for you!"

worn ember
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i've been doing it all wrong then

upper flicker
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cat engages in the opposite philosophy

limber knotBOT
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if they have an issue they will find the correct way to report it anyways

spare venture
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that's not the case at all phoenix

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inmy experience

golden gust
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I mean, I just banned somebody earlier for refusing to create a ticket

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so, yea, kek

spare venture
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for players that are like an average of 13 years old

worn ember
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then again, its mc people we're talking about

upper flicker
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gotta be easy enough for people like ded to use

spare venture
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server owners should be held to a higher standard

worn ember
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excuse you, i'm a professional ticket creator

spare venture
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but players are usually children who can barely do anything, discord is the common ground. you could do it in-game, but in-game stuff is so messy, and discord is just so nice for offline messages or trying to get people's attention

upper flicker
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oof

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doesnt sound fun

golden gust
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I like proper systems to manage proper things vs tryna deal with the horrors of catering to others

worn ember
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we should recreate minecraft on discord

spare venture
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plus it's a good way to get people to join my discord

limber knotBOT
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children shouldn't be using discord change my mind

golden gust
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I ain't gonna bend over backwards for somebody who ain't gonna buy me dinner first

spare venture
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my discord tickets are a "proper system"

limber knotBOT
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and promoting such a platform is just insanily immoral

golden gust
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I mean, a proper system with labels, state tracking, searching, etc

limber knotBOT
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like you could just be promoting child abuse directly

spare venture
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ah you meant like a comprehensive ticket system

golden gust
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Like, yes, a proper ticket system

spare venture
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that same argument could be made for them being on a minecraft server in general, or any online place phoenix

upper flicker
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all paper tickets must now be submitted, viewed, managed, and resolved via discord

limber knotBOT
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no, a minecraft server can be moderated

spare venture
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discord is moderated

limber knotBOT
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people can't wirte shit in private messages without it being moderated

spare venture
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ask simple what happened to him

golden gust
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I mean, I've dealt with support in a commercial manner, without even the basic features like proper state tracking it just becomes total ass

limber knotBOT
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on discord you can basically write anyone anything and nobody cares unless it gets reported

spare venture
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same thing on minecraft

limber knotBOT
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(and even if it gets reported...)

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no, all messages in minecraft go through the server

spare venture
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2b2t, anarchy servers, pedophile servers, "sex" servers, "drug" servers exist.

limber knotBOT
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you have the ability to view all chat as a mod

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I mean, I don't say that it's impossible if the server owners don't care

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but on discord it's impossible to try to create a safe environment

golden gust
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wasn't discord like hard-ass banning furry servers or something a while ago?

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But, refused to comment on some other... questionable... stuff

spare venture
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kinda ridiculous to call me "insanely immoral and directly supporting child abuse" by asking people to join my discord.

limber knotBOT
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I mean they have tons of servers actively violating their TOS, some are even listed on their public discovery page

spare venture
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looks at the minecraft eula

limber knotBOT
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I mean even the paper server is violating the TOS so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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(Discord TOS does not allow discussion of modifying third party games/software(

spare venture
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give me the headache causer role back or shut up 😉

cosmic raft
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What happens once you reach 9999? 10000 will be out of alignment

golden gust
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Lets deal with the easy to deal with TOS violations

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delets the discord bridge

upper flicker
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at the end of the day if it works for you ¯_(ツ)_/¯

limber knotBOT
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👀

upper flicker
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we are in the minecraft community after all

spare venture
upper flicker
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home of "really really awful terrible no good jfc what is wrong with you" solutions deployed to prod and seem to somehow work fine

spare venture
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its just a really convenient place to do them where people will respond if you ping them

tropic flame
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at least we ain't using public email systems kekw

spare venture
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and people don't see it as too much effort to create one

tropic flame
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good lord

zealous wedge
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ah yes, let's do support over a mailing list

golden gust
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We already have a mailing list

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security only, but, we have one

zealous wedge
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need more

upper flicker
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wildcard address that forwards to zml

spare venture
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yeah be like kangarko

tropic flame
zealous wedge
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I can just tell everyone no!

golden gust
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I mean, I just pushed a temp fix for something earlier

spare venture
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my laziness scale tipped, i'd rather scrape all the ice off my car than cook dinner

golden gust
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~~who wants to place bets on how long it is until I consider it permanent ~~

upper flicker
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you dont already?

mental meadow
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reply everyone: nno

tropic flame
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one week and 3 days

upper flicker
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reply-all

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there you go

twin lagoon
worn ember
spare venture
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michael's favorite emoji

twin lagoon
worn ember
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faster

spare venture
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i wish people called eachother noobs still instead of bots

worn ember
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ok noob

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my killaura is better than yours

spare venture
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nub

left swift
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N00b

hot hamlet
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Hey. I'm transferring our server to our own dedicated host. Ignoring configs. What files will be critical to keep and move over. Like world.zip for example

left swift
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Whatever you think u need

twin lagoon
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why is the end so fucking scuffed on paper

left swift
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Did you try using a different paper

twin lagoon
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yes

left swift
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Even the construction paper

cosmic raft
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the hell kind of rules are these

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Please enter a password within 6 to 32 alphanumeric characters.
You cannot use the following as passwords:
 -Any password made up of only letters, only numbers, or only symbols.
 -The same text as your Square Enix ID.
 -The same text as the characters before your e-mail address's @ sign.
 -Any text string with the same character repeated 3 times.

left swift
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Good rules

mental meadow
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those rules are good imo

cosmic raft
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No

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  1. 32 max
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  1. 3 characters repeated is perfectly valid
worn ember
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they dropped javafx in j9 right?

twin lagoon
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javafx is still a thing iirc, just not bundled with openjdk

golden gust
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openjdk never shipped javafx iirc

left swift
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Kashs passwords are confirmed aaabbbcccddd..

mental meadow
twin lagoon
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there's openfx though

golden gust
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^^

worn ember
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hm, fair, i thought they ditched it for swing or something

mental meadow
twin lagoon
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@mental meadow meowhuggies

mental meadow
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Michael uwu

golden gust
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No, javafx is ontop of swing

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(and awt)

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\o/

twin lagoon
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people use chromeos?

mental meadow
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yea

zealous wedge
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schools

vernal moth
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Yes, and it's not bad

twin lagoon
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i've never seen a chromebook here

mental meadow
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Chromebooks are epic

golden gust
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I mean, I don't, but schools and people who don't give a fuck, basicall

vernal moth
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And yeah, it's a US thing michael

twin lagoon
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it's a US thing of course

golden gust
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I know one of my fave youtubers uses one for streaming

spare venture
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What’s wrong with the end on paper

vernal moth
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I wish schools here wouldn't buy ipads, lol

spare venture
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Besides the ender dragon being weird sometimes

twin lagoon
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lmao

golden gust
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It's basically just a no-effort device for getting ont he web pretty much

spare venture
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Ahh yeah

twin lagoon
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the ender dragon has been fucked on paper since 1.14

spare venture
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Yup

golden gust
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pr's welcome, or something

twin lagoon
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think it was specifically paper

golden gust
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facedesks

spare venture
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I always spawn our own in

twin lagoon
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ya but i don't know java so that ain't an option

mental meadow
spare venture
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Lol

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Loser

mental meadow
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they had like 20

twin lagoon
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respawn with crystals and then it properly works

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problem is, the end crystal obsidian poles don't re-generate properly either when doing so but it's acceptable

golden gust
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what was the default legacy search thing?

spare venture
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Haha

golden gust
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I remember there being some oddity there

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and if you mess around with keep spawn loaded too iirc

spare venture
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The end in general is scuffed in multiplayer

golden gust
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and just in general that things fucked and needs somebody to go over it into the depths of obfuscation

spare venture
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Because it doesn’t make a lot of sense

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Might make my own end dimension soon

twin lagoon
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i think i tried turning off scan for legacy ender dragon ages ago

spare venture
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With blackjack and hookers

pale hinge
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hi guys

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im just moving my server to another windows server

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i have java installed

twin lagoon
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windows server

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good luck

pale hinge
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and its recognized in command prompt

spare venture
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Moving servers is usually just moving the server folder

pale hinge
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but when i run java with BAT files, it says java is not recognized...

twin lagoon
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????????????????????????

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did it just generate properly

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what the fuck

pale hinge
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come on guys, i need help. making fun doesnt help

golden gust
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Nobody made fun of you?

golden gust
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I mean, their comment was useless, not making fun if you

golden gust
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if it's saying java ain't recognised, your java install is busted or misconfigured

pale hinge
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but i can run java on command prompt

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the problem is only with batch files

golden gust
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try rebooting? 🤷‍♂️

pale hinge
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its weird, i just disconnected from remote desktop and reconnected and it works now

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weird lol

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thanks!

twin lagoon
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i am so confused, the ender dragon functions perfectly fine now when i want to replicate the issue on a fresh server

twin lagoon
golden gust
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there's a few caveats to basically how the enderdragon works

twin lagoon
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normally on paper you'd go into the end and find no portal

golden gust
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Like, I ain't had any issues with it myself but see the odd report here and there

dim shadow
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guys quick question are nether portals 3d? like can i have 2 diff portal pairs at the same x/y but different y levels?

worn ember
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Try it

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But i don't think so

dim shadow
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i hope it works lol i will try

worn ember
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They link to the same portal

dim shadow
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o rip

spiral robin
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Snapchat from @mental meadow aPES_Cuddle 🥺

mental meadow
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❤️

meager tusk
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Aber !

spiral robin
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Idriz ! ! ? ? ! !

void void
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I've got a computer connected to my computer via ethernet. My computer has wifi. The other one has a MC server.
server ---ethernet---> my pc ---wifi---> router ---> the internet
How can I forward port 25565 to the internet, so that when people connect to my ip, it goes to my pc then to the server pc?

wraith trail
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ideally you just wouldn't do it that way

vernal moth
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You use your server via direct attach?

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That's really meh

void void
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Unfortunately I have no other means of doing this other than the way it is now.

vernal moth
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Can't you attach your server to your router to dhcp and shit works as expected?

void void
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I've got the server up, I can connect to it using the local IP of the computer connected via ethernet, I just can't get it open.

wraith trail
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what is it's local ip

void void
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192.168.137.220

wraith trail
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is that assigned by your home router or by your computer?

vernal moth
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Well, i think you gotta port forward to your local IP of the pc then

void void
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My computer.

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I'm guessing there's some way I can get windows 10 to forward packets sent to port 22565 to the other computer (again, connected via ethernet) but I haven't found a way. And I'm sure that if I did that, I wouldn't be able to join minecraft servers.

wraith trail
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I'm sure you can, no idea how you would do that on windows though

void void
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I've tried using netsh interface portproxy add v4tov4 . . . but it hasnt' worked for me.

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It's a really weird scenario I'm in.

vernal moth
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Basically, direct attach sucks

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Can't you get a wifi stick for your server?

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Should be like 10 bucks

void void
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Nope. I mean, maybe here in about a month.

vernal moth
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Uff

visual egret
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@safe plover whats that Android port of MC Java called?

safe plover
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boardwalk is the base of it, but the port itself is PojavLauncher

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afaik

pale hinge
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hi guys, i asked on LuckPerms discord but no answers yet. I moved my server files (by making a backup file with Drive2BackUp or whatever plugin) to another machine, and had to delete the original files. everything works fine but it looks like my all LuckPerms data is gone, no groups no perms, nothing

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do you know why?

spare venture
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did you have the luckperms database in MySQL

twin lagoon
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you want to make sure your server is completely offline

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then compress the server to create a backup, move it over to your new server

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do not backup a server that's running with sqlite / h2 databases

spare venture
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well

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you shouldn’t, but you can risk it 😉

twin lagoon
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well yes i'd have more faith in that going well when using proper backup software

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with plugins backing your server up however

spare venture
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True

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I only leave stuff in SQLite or H2 that I can afford to have reset/lose

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Everything else flatfile or MySQL

pale hinge
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so there is nothing to do?

spare venture
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You didn’t really answer our question

twin lagoon
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simply move your server again but "properly"

#

assuming you still have access to your old server

spare venture
#

“Had to delete original files”

twin lagoon
#

o

#

in that case, you're pretty much fucked

spare venture
#

It’s possible he has the luckperms db in MySQL

pale hinge
#

@spare venture sorry, its not mysql

#

can i send a file here?

spare venture
#

Ah you’re fucked then probably

#

No

pale hinge
#

is it possible to find the last apply command i entered in some logs?

#

in logs on my computer i see only command responses

spare venture
#

You’ll have to ask in luckperms

pale hinge
#

okay thank you

spare venture
#

This is a wake up call to do proper backups in the future.

#

Sucks that it had to happen this way

warm anchor
#

Not that really. His mistake is he doesn’t ask before a big move especially he doesn’t know what he’s doing...

spare venture
#

Mhm

warm anchor
#

Also the whole removal of original file before testing part lol

spare venture
#

That’s the worst thing you can do

warm anchor
#

An untested backup is as good as no backup

spare venture
#

I am switching dedis in a month and I plan on transferring a week before the old one expires just in case

#

Two websites, multiple Minecraft servers, discord bot, and other random stuff, a lot could go wrong.

warm anchor
#

A good time to separate site and bot onto a vps

spare venture
#

Why?

wraith trail
#

there's no real harm in it being on the same machine

spare venture
#

Costs more for 0 benefit

#

I don’t switch dedis often

pale hinge
#

i have this link, it has most of the data https://luckperms.net/editor/x0OVPJiw3c

#

is there any way to save it back?

#

when i change something and then use apply command, it saves only the changes to my server

#

i asked on luckperms but they dont care

wraith trail
spare venture
#

Well, you could just set it up following that as a template

twin lagoon
#

uh

#

iirc you could import it completely

spare venture
#

Probably

wraith trail
#

just download that before it expires

twin lagoon
#

yes

#

try --replace

#

/lp import x0OVPJiw3c --replace

spare venture
#

Also don’t say they don’t care. You used the wrong channel and then asked the question poorly

warm anchor
#

Lol party stalker!

pale hinge
#

i asked on support as well

#

they just talk about something else, nobody replied

wraith trail
#

also your not even using paper

#

well anyways, glad you got your data back

pale hinge
twin lagoon
#

o that's for files

#

whoops

wraith trail
#

/lp import x0OVPJiw3c --upload --replace

twin lagoon
#

o, neat

last harbor
#

i need help with my start.bat, where should i look?

wraith trail
#

if its simple enough, here is fine

last harbor
#

i just need 5gb dedicated to my server, nothing else fancy... should my start.bat be different to if it was a vanilla server?

wraith trail
#

The same thing you used for vanilla will work fine (bar changing the filename), however also see this:

#

.flags

limber knotBOT
warm anchor
#

@last harbor you should use aikars flags

#

^

last harbor
#

okay, thanks for that, do i change the numbers with Gs after them?

wraith trail
#

yes, set both to 5 in your case

last harbor
#

wait what

golden gust
#

fwiw

#

.heap

limber knotBOT
#

-Xmx controls the amount of heap memory assigned to the JVM, this does not include memory used for java itself and the native memory used by java itself, as well as other libraries such as netty (for networking) and SQLite.

wraith trail
#

and of course change the filename

pale hinge
#

this command worked, it says started import process, reading data but nothing else for 5 mins 😦

golden gust
#

if you only want java as a whole to use 5G, you'd wanna set it to like 3-4G

last harbor
#

wait where do i download the file

#

im so slow

#

and overwhelmed lol

wraith trail
#

no downloading needed

golden gust
#

download the file?

last harbor
#

right so copy the text

#

the Change the name part confused me a bit

golden gust
#

you create a new bat file, basically, create a new file in notepad and save it as start.bat or whatever

last harbor
#

right

golden gust
#

-jar needs to point to the name of the jar you're using

wraith trail
#

ah, just where it says paperclip.jar, you'd want to change that to whateverYouNamedIt.jar

last harbor
#

ohhhhh so for example paper-1.16.5-469.jar

golden gust
#

yes

wraith trail
#

yes.

#

damn it

last harbor
#

to be clear do i copy this all "java -Xms10G -Xmx10G -XX:+UseG1GC -XX:+ParallelRefProcEnabled -XX:MaxGCPauseMillis=200 -XX:+UnlockExperimentalVMOptions -XX:+DisableExplicitGC -XX:+AlwaysPreTouch -XX:G1NewSizePercent=30 -XX:G1MaxNewSizePercent=40 -XX:G1HeapRegionSize=8M -XX:G1ReservePercent=20 -XX:G1HeapWastePercent=5 -XX:G1MixedGCCountTarget=4 -XX:InitiatingHeapOccupancyPercent=15 -XX:G1MixedGCLiveThresholdPercent=90 -XX:G1RSetUpdatingPauseTimePercent=5 -XX:SurvivorRatio=32 -XX:+PerfDisableSharedMem -XX:MaxTenuringThreshold=1 -Dusing.aikars.flags=https://mcflags.emc.gs -Daikars.new.flags=true -jar paperclip.jar nogui"

golden gust
#

but, easier to rename the jar to like paper, an then replace that on updates, so you don't gotta edit the script each update

last harbor
#

sorry for the spaghetti but just wanna do it right

golden gust
#

yes

#

nogui
remove that if you want the vanilla gui, but is meh so 🤷‍♂️

last harbor
#

awesome, thanks!!!

#

to make sure one more time lol,, java -Xms5G -Xmx5G this is what i would do for 5 gb

golden gust
#

yes

wraith trail
#

sort of, but it will in total use more than 5g. That will allocate 5 to the heap

warm anchor
#

Don’t worry if you fuck any part of that up, server won’t start anyway runs

last harbor
#

the heap

wraith trail
#

in total I would expect it to use ~6G if you set it to 5

#

heap is like a part of java's memory I guess

#

the main part, but some stuff isn't put there.

last harbor
#

aw that will be alright, thank you guys for the patience. my heros ❤️ lmaooooo

pale hinge
#

@wraith trail @twin lagoon 😦

twin lagoon
#

f

pale hinge
#

nothing happens 😦

wraith trail
#

check your logs

pale hinge
#

oh it throws an exception

wraith trail
#

idk its valid json

#

maybe you should ask luckperms, I may be misinterpreting their docs

pale hinge
#

i try, i hope they will help like you guys did

#

thank you ❤️

brave radish
#

would it be feasible or reasonable to use git as a backup system for minecraft worlds?

#

taring all the world files and then pushing that?

spare venture
#

Have fun with dynmap or other flatfile storage

brave radish
#

(possibly tar.gz, but I would assume it would take less space the other way since the compression wouldn't kill the patch system)

wraith trail
#

feasible yes, reasonable no.

spare venture
#

Also you still have to host it somewhere

#

GitHub wouldn’t like that

golden gust
#

git is horrible for binary files

spare venture
#

Also use zstd

golden gust
#

use rsnapshot

brave radish
spare venture
#

zstd > gzip

brave radish
#

k

#

* cat explodes*

#

oh and thanks party I had never heard of that

pale hinge
wraith trail
#

look at cat's recommendation of rsnapshot

pale hinge
#

like the code in apply changes command

wraith trail
#

highly recommended

brave radish
topaz mortar
#

Or rdiff-backup

wraith trail
#

rdiff backup looks kinda cool

abstract violet
#

love rdiff-backup

abstract violet
#

how the heck did you generate a link to highlight that text

mental meadow
#

ugh headaches

brave radish
#

didn't highlight for me lol

abstract violet
#

what browser?

#

im using chromium

brave radish
#

FF (hides)

topaz mortar
#

On mobile, just the share feature. kekwhyper

brave radish
#

seems like rdiff-backup is more appropriate here

#

I love how !apt on DDG goes to packages.Ubuntu lol

abstract violet
#

I have a 4 hour rdiff-backup interval of all my worlds, which total 73gb currently, going back 2 months and it only takes up 123gb. (plan in the future is to delete certain intervals as they get older, i.e. delete 4 and 8 am/pm after a week, then 12pm after three, then every other day after 5 weeks, etc something like that, just an example)

zealous wedge
#

pats @mental meadow

brave radish
abstract violet
#

yes, i just run save-off and save-on

#

thought im not sure it actually does anything

#

takes just a couple seconds though

brave radish
#

oh, is it in a plugin or something? how does it do it every 4 hours by itself?

abstract violet
#

save-off and save-on are minecraft (or bukkit?), the backups are run by cron + bash script

#

00 */4 * * * /home/minecraft/servers/backup.sh

brave radish
#

yeah but I mean if it's every four hours what runs save-off?

tropic flame
#

i don't think those commands do a backup... it just turns off and on the server's autosaving

golden gust
#

you can run commands from the scripts

#

save-off, sleep 20 seconds, backup, save-on

tropic flame
#

oh

#

that way

#

yea

abstract violet
brave radish
#

what is mark2?

golden gust
#

server wrapper

abstract violet
#

server wrapper

#

old af :P

#

you can replace that with your screen -X command or whatever (been forever since i used screen like that, apologies if thats wrong)

cosmic raft
#

@mental meadow uwu

brave radish
#

well in my case tmux send-keys but yeah I didn't even think to turn saving off from a bash script

abstract violet
#

what mark2 looks like btw

#

and ye exactly

brave radish
#

I would have ended up turning off save and then running the bash from a plugin lol

golden gust
#

paperd wen

abstract violet
#

pls

#

i want to get rid of mark2

brave radish
#

I think paper should get rid of the GUI again lol

golden gust
#

kinda been debating adding support to paperclip to set system properties

#

and then adding some system property override for the nogui thing so that it can be set in paperclip

brave radish
#

I do like that it's all in one folder though

#

makes it easier to blow things up without caring :)

wraith trail
#

why not just remove the guy all together?

brave radish
#

is there a linux command to sandbox a process so it can only write to one folder? I mean I could just use another user with like no permissions

wraith trail
#

I guess it would break someones workflow

#

even mojang recommends putting nogui on there

golden gust
#

chroot, basically

brave radish
#

I forgot that's what that command is actually for

golden gust
#

most people generally just use docker for that these days

brave radish
#

I only use it for password recovery 😆

golden gust
#

Like, there's other ways to do it too

#

2 second google points to a thing called seccomp

gaunt root
#

hello i need help

#

I cant find the papermc version 1.8.8 or 1.8.9

golden gust
#

downloads page, scroll down

brave radish
#

First off, there is no 1.8.9 because that was a client-only release, so you're looking for 1.8.8. Secondly, scroll all the way down on the downloads page and hit "legacy." Thirdly, make sure you read the notice above the "download anyway" button because 1.8 is dead and no one really remembers how to help you with any problems even if they'd want to

gaunt root
#

I only want the server for plugins tho, anyways I don't think I will need help c:

cosmic raft
#

@mental meadow uwu

hot hamlet
#

What should i use to see and access my server files on the linux server from my windows pc (With GUI)

spare venture
#

mobaxterm

#

sftp

worn ember
#

hmm

#

intellij's explorer died on me xD

golden gust
#

if you want a gui, you'd basically be looking into vnc or something along those lines

void void
#

Why not just like

#

Run linux in a vm?

worn ember
#

hows that relevant, its obviously for a remote connection

void void
#

Fair lmfao

worn ember
#

"just run your mc server in a vm lul"

void void
#

xD

#

Didn't really think about that part

worn ember
#

cat, werent you going to sleep like an hour or 2 ago

mental meadow
#

@cosmic raft uwu

golden gust
#

yes

mental meadow
#

two uwus!

#

wow

worn ember
#

go sleep then 🙂

cosmic raft
mental meadow
#

😮

#

finally

cosmic raft
#

yup!

#

finally!

mental meadow
#

I hope 400 are enough for a while 😄

#

god I was so worried that I messed up

cosmic raft
#

Nah, post is just slow because of Christmas is all

worn ember
#

christmas was 2 months ago bro

cosmic raft
#

yes

mental meadow
#

yeah I send it before christmas

worn ember
cosmic raft
#

and people ordered like crazy because of covid-19

#

stores closed

mental meadow
#

I think it was even the 18th when I send it

#

so exactly 2 months

worn ember
#

sure, but 2 month delay? damn

mental meadow
#

christmas + covid + international shipping

cosmic raft
#

international too, dark

#

not national

worn ember
#

ah

cosmic raft
#

another example

worn ember
#

intellij discovering magic packages that dont exist

#

very cool

cosmic raft
#

I ordered something from a german store in January

#

It shipped to Canada on the 20th

#

Still has not arrived

#

in Canada

worn ember
#

damn

golden gust
#

canaderp, woo

cosmic raft
#

Not Canada's fault

#

International mail is just slow in general

golden gust
#

I just wanted to call it canaderp

cosmic raft
#

packages, that is

#

not regular lettermail

golden gust
#

.canada

mental meadow
#

it feels like they just move my stuff around for now reason instead of sending it to germany/austria

worn ember
#

looks like they're trying hard to lose it

#

i had one of my packages go from germany to france to the netherlands, then to belgium

golden gust
#

I mean, there's always stuff like that

spare venture
#

usa has that too, but between states

golden gust
#

Never had that happen to me, thank god

#

I just have this landlord who picks horrible places

#

Like, the enterance to my place is basically behind the back, so

void void
#

Hey look its amazon

spare venture
#

im sure there's a lot of intricacies into the massive distribution network

mental meadow
golden gust
#

the place where my address is basically lines up to a bunch of houses with no doors

worn ember
#

yeah its odd

spare venture
#

it's a miracle it's as efficient as it is right now

mental meadow
#

like this, how does this work

worn ember
#

yeah its really weird

golden gust
#

fixed plane routes, etc

worn ember
#

"but we care about the environment"

#

yeets across the planet

mental meadow
#

plus it was a letter, not a package. they usually don't use a plane for that

#

at least not for that distance

spare venture
#

theres prob so much that goes into that

golden gust
#

depends, really

#

I mean, often it's just fixed routes

spare venture
#

the almighty router routed it that way, we are only the router's underlings

worn ember
#

i want an airport behind my house where all my packages land

#

actually that would be too loud

golden gust
#

there's not enough mail between those two places for a more direct/shorter rote

worn ember
#

stop talking sense

golden gust
#

so, easier to just move it along the normal route and send it over from there vs going direct

#

basically every international mail company generally use some hub & spokes routing system

#

until we build mail tubes, it's just the cheapest way to do it

void void
#

dunno if this is a general question, but is there a way I can host a paper server on my Android phone and how will it hold up with the snapdragon 865 (flagship soc)\

spare venture
#

mail tubes kekw

#

that woudl be crazy

golden gust
#

I mean, yea, you can do it, there are linux installs you can do even non-rooted

spare venture
#

the real question is why

golden gust
#

but, like, it's an arm chip, one which nobody really cares about

worn ember
#

why do people insist on running mc servers on everything

spare venture
#

^

void void
#

it's fun idk

#

and i'm bored ;c

spare venture
#

ded you can run a server with me yaknow

worn ember
#

i could

#

but i dont approve of your ticket system

spare venture
#

it works

void void
worn ember
#

make it sync with ingame

#

so you can create tickets from ingame

golden gust
#

you need a java install

mental meadow
#

the fact that international mail works as good as it does is honestly so weird

#

I don't think there is anything else where we work together internationally so well

spare venture
#

no ded because how do i respond to the people in the ticket

worn ember
#

fun fact: governments are so inefficient and waste millions on inefficiency so it would be harder for a single part to take control lol

spare venture
#

wat

#

ded your mind

worn ember
#

basically you need to go through tonnes of paperwork to get anything done so its pretty much impossible to gain anything from it, so its not worth it

#

as an example

spare venture
#

no u

modest path
#

why

worn ember
#

intellij is drunk again

modest path
#

slap it

#

usually works for me

spare venture
#

those colors are ugly

modest path
#

Shut up purple theme user

worn ember
#

also i forgot when the annotation processor is triggered thonk i figured setting a breakpoint and running my build in debug would trigger it

#

guess not

modest path
#

I really wish reflection was not slow

#

someone please grant my wish

worn ember
#

No

modest path
#

darkeye

#

I'm going to harvest your liver

#

if you don't grant my wish

#

do you really want that huh

void void
brave radish
golden gust
#

sorry guys, eh

#

We're sending our war ship over

hot hamlet
#

Hey so I installed linux MySql on my server. But im unsure what the hostname is. How can i check

potent fossil
#

if you installed it on the same server that your MC server is on, the hostname is by default going to be localhost

heady cradle
#

what are the different anti xray engine modes?

#

and is the anti xray built into paper effective?

wraith trail
#

.xray

limber knotBOT
wraith trail
#

see here for a comparison ^^

heady cradle
#

great thanks

#

do you recommend I leave every other setting in my paper config as the default values?

#

I have been a long time spigot user and I am making the switch to paper now

wraith trail
#

Depends what you're after. Look at the config and see what you might want to change.

#

So no, I don't really recommend leaving everything default.

heady cradle
#

alright thanks for the assistance

wraith trail
#

if you've got any more questions about config/the server, head over to #paper-help

hot hamlet
#

Im lost with the MySQL So for plugins i put in Hostname the output from hostname from linux command line. My password is my pasword and username is the username but it just doesnt connect like a setting is wrong.

wraith trail
#

is it on the same machine?

hot hamlet
#

Yep

wraith trail
#

if so, try localhost

hot hamlet
#

The plugin still says the Mysql must be configured correctly

mental meadow
#

what plugin?

hot hamlet
#

Its Prism. But considering it all worked before i had to manually setup my own SQL on a dedicated linux server where i have never touched linux in my life

#

Im willing to bet i made the error

hot hamlet
#

I had to create the database first. I thought it would create Itself. My bad. Got it now. Wow things actually working?!?!?

#

Can i make is so this linux server uses ftp to grab the world file from the other server or is it easier to just download it then upload it myself?

wraith trail
#

you can most definitely do that

hot hamlet
#

Im sorry that was more of me saying. How do i do that im a Linux virgin

mental meadow
#

Are you using SSH to connect to it?

hot hamlet
#

Yes

mental meadow
#

In that case you can just use SFTP^^ just use your ssh credentials and the ssh port and connect via a FTP client

keen aspen
#

is notepad++ still best available tool to edit .yml?

zealous wedge
#

it's a text file? use whatever you want?

keen aspen
#

for better visualization

warm anchor
#

it's certainly better than default notepad on Windows

formal turret
#

i prefer using intellij to edit my yml files

spiral robin
#

Vscode peepoClap

#

@zealous wedge @mental meadow GWcmeisterPeepoLove

cunning raft
#

lol

spiral robin
#

I'm confused

short yarrow
#

I guess I'm just overthinking haha

minor badge
#

I genuinely have no idea what you want to accomplish

#

create method contracts with interfaces and just fulfill them. don't overthink it

short yarrow
#

👍

keen aspen
#

any suggestion of good bedwars plugins?

feral locust
#

Is there anyone using Purpur or Tuinity?

potent fossil
#

you could perhaps ask in their respective discords

#

i know it's an "out there" idea but i like to think out of the box

spare venture
#

No, no one uses those clearly widely used forks /s

waxen panther
#

simple ur WILD

potent fossil
#

wild ideas come from wild people

tropic flame
#

since when does this restriction exist??

#

wtf

zealous wedge
#

bedrock maybe?

tropic flame
#

ok that makes sense but why did they mark "1.16.5"

zealous wedge
#

the chat filtering changes in the latest snapshot are still client opt-in

tropic flame
#

on the affected versions

zealous wedge
#

either bedrock or realms

#

no other options

tropic flame
#

i see

olive marlin
#

I've launched Windows first time in a long time. I keep getting spammed with all the thing now - outdated Outlook settings, sign in to OneDrive, download new Nvidia firmware, Microsoft account problem, update app X, update app Y...
I didn't remember it being that spammy, but I guess if each app sends notification that it's outdated...

merry talon
#

package managers exist for a reason

olive marlin
#

One drive asked me to login again, despite me never using it and canceling the prompt 5 minutes ago.

merry talon
#

OneDrive is almost impossible to fully get rid of

#

They really really want you to use it

#

it saddens me that the same company can be behind so many good things

#

and then there's windows

#

and azure

olive marlin
#

It's an additional, nice feature and it would be really, really, really, really great if you used it!

#

Mm, azure.

#

And Windows store. But I haven't touched it in last 6 years or so, maybe it is way better now.

minor badge
olive marlin
#

Proxi peepoheart

tropic flame
#

this is funny

olive marlin
#

Integer overflow in HD Tune? (bottom right)

tropic flame
#

I didn't know reading mc issues was so fun

vernal moth
tropic flame
#

really?

#

but migration hasn't started yet though, has it?

olive marlin
#

New account are MSA only.

#

Old accounts haven't started migration yet.

peak ginkgo
olive marlin
#

And only like 3 launchers support MSA peepocry

tropic flame
#

damn

olive marlin
#

Official, MiniLauncher and Lunar.

tropic flame
#

good thing I still got an old account then lol

#

I use MultiMC

void void
#

I love software gore

#

My launcher for modded supports MSA now. Its not public tho.

olive marlin
#

I wish MultiMC was written in some sane language, so I could contribute to it.

#

Proximyst rewrite MultiMC in Rust? peeposhy

golden gust
#

don't give it ideas

olive marlin
#

I have like over 30 paid days off available at work, maybe I should take like a month off and just work on redoing my server setup from scratch and see into writing my own launcher in Rust? ferris_think

potent fossil
#

or save it and go on vacation post covid KEKWHYPER

golden gust
#

post covid?

#

kek

potent fossil
#

cat plz

#

do not be toxic .

golden gust
#

imma go run around licking people just for the post covid hype

potent fossil
#

.kill cat

limber knotBOT
#

rams a rocket launcher up cat's ass and lets off a few rounds.

potent fossil
#

it's for the better

golden gust
#

wanna come to my funeral?

potent fossil
#

yea ill host it and delivery the eulogy and bury your ass

#

just to make sure it's finally done

twin lagoon
#

a

golden gust
#

I really just wanna create a super spreader event so everybody here is invited

potent fossil
olive marlin
#

We should burry cat and make the top of the grave a big litter box for other cats.

gusty bolt
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someone help me with manhunt Minecraft dream with the compass thing because i wat to do it with ma friends

olive marlin
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Aren't there ready plugins for it?

golden gust
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sounds very demandy

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and not even in the right channel

gusty bolt
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i dont know

golden gust
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nor have you asked an actual question

gusty bolt
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i got told that this is the right channel

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i got send to 8 different servers!

golden gust
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there are help channels for asking support questions

olive marlin
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.g spigot manhunt plugin

limber knotBOT
olive marlin
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First Google result. Go try it.

pale hinge
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Hi, is it okay to have around 1.5k tile entities for 15 online players?

golden gust
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TEs are things placed by players

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e.g. chests, hoppers.

pale hinge
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so the number sounds okay or not?

golden gust
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We can't say

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There is no "okay" set of numbers

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You care more about the time they take, not the number of them

pale hinge
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i mean if it sounds crazy comparing to other people or not

golden gust
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It means jack shit

twin lagoon
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i mean some people have 300k tile entities and some have 3k tile entities

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it doesn't mean anything no

golden gust
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chests are tile entities and have 0 impact on performance

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hoppers are tileentities and can obliterate performance

olive marlin
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Brocc pepeclap

twin lagoon
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bloodstone and brocc clappywappy

olive marlin
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Michale pepeclap

waxen panther
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Bloodstone peepoClapJamminMoment Michael flooooosh

pale hinge
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is there any way to check how many hoppers are active?

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maybe in timings?

golden gust
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use timings

pale hinge
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Minecraft::tickTileEntity - nms.TileEntityHoppercount(84) total(0.01% 0s, 0.02% of tick)

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its okay right?

golden gust
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You cut out the useful part

pale hinge
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avg(0.00ms per - 0.01ms/4.00 per tick)

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this?

golden gust
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timings literally tells you the # per tick in the right column

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yes

pale hinge
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so does it look good

golden gust
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Please go watch the video in the top corner of the page

pale hinge
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okay thank you

limber knotBOT
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sonarqube goes brrrrr

gusty bolt
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can someone guid me how to do the plugin thing?

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pretty please

mossy vessel
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I'm pretty

golden gust
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find a plugin which does what you want it to do and read their docs

gusty bolt
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im a noob in doing that kind of stuff

golden gust
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If you have an actual question, ask it

topaz mortar
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We were all noobs in the beginning. Reading helped a lot.

golden gust
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if you're expecting people to sit around and hold your hand, go pay somebody

topaz mortar
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The use your braille tool to read as you do it currently...

golden gust
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am not sure what you're expecting here

gusty bolt
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k then bye i guess

golden gust
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There are many pre-made plugins out there, some of which likely have crazy amounts of documentation

dapper nacelle
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Guys how do I breath again, im kinda noob at this sort of stuff

golden gust
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don't move a single muscle, ez

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#AndTheDarwinAwardGoesToo

olive marlin
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Also, naming your company in Russia Put-in Tours 👌

visual egret
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thats epic

mossy vessel
gusty bolt
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someone help me with manhunt Minecraft dream with the compass thing because i wat to do it with ma friends

olive marlin
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What problem you have?

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Can't help if we don't know what is your issue.

gusty bolt
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well

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i want to get the

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compass like dream manhunt

vivid ivy
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🤔

gusty bolt
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and i dont know how to do that

olive marlin
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Use Google. "spigot manhunt plugin"

vivid ivy
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Pwull wequest 🤔

golden gust
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Nobody can help you if you don't ask questions people can actually help you with

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Like, specifically, what step are you actually stuck at

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Because, you find a plugin, read their docs/page/whatever, throw it in the folder

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very few people here can recommend specific plugins, and very small # of people are gonna bother to run around reading stuff for you

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.dontask

limber knotBOT
thorny rivet
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Any good site to find a good Server team? The forums I tried seemed to be confused by my long description, versus the two liners they are used to

visual egret
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stack overflow jobs kekwhyper

untold copper
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my beyblades just arrived :D

golden gust
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yea, but, like, you got an arena?

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kinda miss making beyblades go subsonic 😄