general

[twin lagoon]

what cat says

it looks like the type of brand you'd always find at lidl

[potent fossil]

from looking at that map i now know Straße is the German word for Street

[golden gust]

layout

wow

[potent fossil]

I am linguist

[mossy vessel]

hehe

[limber knot]

Griesson produces for all kind of supermarkets under all kind of brands

[potent fossil]

You mean Grießon

[twin lagoon]

simple big brain

[limber knot]

No it's not even pronounced like that simple

[vernal bone]

I will mostly use it as a mini workload for checking mails, and searching, nothing big. But, it will be used with acient intel cpus with 1gb dd2 ram at max quality.

[limber knot]

It's pronounced grisson

[twin lagoon]

grißon

[limber knot]

What do people think of apple after care?

[potent fossil]

I don't even know what the pronunciation of ß is, all I know about it is from my friend in high school 7 years ago telling me ß is just a double-S

and I was like ok

[minor badge]

@potent fossil

[potent fossil]

@minor badge

[minor badge]

woa

[potent fossil]

google pronounces straße and strasse the same

kekw

and also translates them the same

whats the diff

[golden gust]

my mate took her laptop in just before her care expired and got like the entire keyboard half of her laptop replaced, they did leave her with a bent bottom tray but that was only aesphetics, don't recall what was entirely wrong with it, but, she's had to use apple care a few times over the years for issues like busting the headphone port and never seems to have any issues

[limber knot]

it's pronounced like an ss but without making the previous vocal short

[golden gust]

They generally just seem like practically meh OEMs in terms of support, some will have the best experiences ever and some will get shafted by the apple tipped... er...

[limber knot]

you could also just replace all ß with a single s and call it a day

[potent fossil]

so the a in straße is pronounced like the a in the English "father", but the a in strasse is pronounced like the a in the English "apple"

or smth

[limber knot]

yeah

well at least from the length

[potent fossil]

interesting

[worn ember]

tf is that B even supposed to be

[potent fossil]

it's a double-S

[minor badge]

a scharfes S

[limber knot]

the sound is of apple is pretty different lol

[worn ember]

well thats pointless as hell xD

[mossy vessel]

ß

not a b

[potent fossil]

idk i dont speak german

[mossy vessel]

idiot

[limber knot]

it's an sz, it's a hard/sharp s

[minor badge]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ß

[mossy vessel]

Glorify our special chars

[limber knot]

they can't even pickup a defective machine for me

[worn ember]

sorry i dont have scuffed chars on my keyboard

[mossy vessel]

charmap on windows

[minor badge]

even my swedish keyboard has ß

[mossy vessel]

runs

[potent fossil]

me neither i use a novel thing called a compose key

[limber knot]

it's right next to the 0 on German QWERTY ;D

[mellow mulch]

b

[minor badge]

QWERTZ fwiw

too*

[worn ember]

i use the infamous azerty keyboard

[limber knot]

Or above the Ü key

[potent fossil]

freakin dutch and their azerty layout

[mellow mulch]

QWERTY

[twin lagoon]

docker-compose

[limber knot]

oddly enough no layout has an upper ß built in :S

[twin lagoon]

the dutch do not use AZERTY

only the french use AZERTY

[potent fossil]

oh ok so ded is just ded

[worn ember]

belgians too

[minor badge]

don't gotta convince me that ded is dumb

[twin lagoon]

the dutch just use QWERTY ISO NL

[mellow mulch]

the duchth

[twin lagoon]

although it's 99% of the time just standard ANSI US QWERTY

[potent fossil]

don't judge him, he's from Flanders

[worn ember]

i am using a french keyboard tho

[limber knot]

Upper 'ß' is "SS"

[mellow mulch]

i am using

keyboard

[minor badge]

ANSI is so stupid

i want FAT return

[twin lagoon]

ANSI is not stupid

no you're fat

[minor badge]

.

[twin lagoon]

😔

[minor badge]

WTF

[worn ember]

FAT never left you

[potent fossil]

congratulations on using your keyboard!

[mellow mulch]

i want to get a DVORAK keyboard

[worn ember]

they should make a tv show named FAT32

[twin lagoon]

i'd stick to whatever you're currently using tbh

[worn ember]

and its about 32 year old fat people

[twin lagoon]

imo not worth your time learning other layouts

[mellow mulch]

but i use phone keybaord

[twin lagoon]

then stop using a phone

[mellow mulch]

ok

[twin lagoon]

[worn ember]

throw the phone away

[mellow mulch]

but

[mossy vessel]

I'm only familiar with QWERTZ layouts typing, but QWERTY is fine until I need special chars lmao

[worn ember]

do it

[mellow mulch]

i like using qwerty

[worn ember]

i use querty on my phone and azerty on my pc

[mellow mulch]

but when i am tired i cant

type fo rshit

scusk im always tired

[worn ember]

[mossy vessel]

I use qwerty at mobile cuz larger keys lmao

[worn ember]

tf am i gonna do with my life now

[mellow mulch]

wasn't there speak of a paper market thing

[worn ember]

hangar yes

[mossy vessel]

Not like you can't customize that, buuut

[mellow mulch]

thanks

[worn ember]

its not released yet tho

[mellow mulch]

so many contributors

[limpid comet]

hey

hows everyone doin on this fine eve

[vast idol]

Anyone else having echest contents clearing since .5?

[magic river]

.5 should be basically just a version number change from .4 for paper so... probably unrelated

[vast idol]

In theory but so far 4 plugins have went since I updated lol

[magic river]

Either the mappings changed or they're doing version checks and bailing

[zealous wedge]

like literally there were maybe 10 lines changed in the server

except md5 decided to do some nms renames :p

[vast idol]

and I'm about to throw geyser away, it's a pain lately XD

[magic river]

What I'm hearing is go back to 1.16.4 paper

[worn ember]

.5 paper

[zealous wedge]

well, paper already patched the issues fixed in 1.16.5

so if you don't have time to investigate you should be able to downgrade

[cedar spade]

new hangar logo

[void void]

hey guys how would i record video of minecraft for a youtube channel?

[olive marlin]

OBS?

[void void]

oo okay cool

i have oBS but to convert my canon into a webcam

[cedar spade]

Sounds explosive

[void void]

2.7ghz intel core i5
Intel iris graphics 6100 1536
8gb

^ my friend has that

macbook

think she could captuer from that?

[twin lagoon]

probably

video capturing isn't too heavy if you set it up properly

[olive marlin]

As long as you don't stream, record and play, it should be fine.

[worn ember]

^me after eating tacos

dont most gpu's have built in recording now?

[magic river]

That's not... really a thing

They might optimize a copy out of transferring the frame to the encoder hardware by adding an extra frame of latency (for an extra buffer) but that's not a big deal

[worn ember]

i'll just pretend i understood that

[magic river]

The only thing "built in recording" does over "we have a hardware video encoder" is save memory bandwidth

But it does so at the cost of extra latency between your keyboard inputs and what you see on the screen

[vast idol]

oh to expand on the enderchest contents disappearing, its only been people who's name starts with M, so far 3 people and all names were M names lol. Too bad it wasnt F

[worn ember]

[minor badge]

they still upped the data version i believe

[zealous wedge]

oh sad

[minor badge]

truly a mojang moment

[void void]

so im looking at my f3 memory and it says i've got memory: x/2048MB

client side

tshould i increase that? i see it hitting more than 100% often

its traveling from like 20-70% pretty fast over and over

[minor badge]

thats expected

[magic river]

That's how Java works

[void void]

ahh okay so is 2048 good to stick with?

[minor badge]

sure

[void void]

ohhh that's my intel uhd graphics 630

2048

[magic river]

Unless you're jacking up your view distance or doing mods 2G should be fine

[void void]

i run a hack

[magic river]

mods as in buildcraft or thaumcraft

[void void]

no graphics card

[minor badge]

i run 4gb but ive got pleeenty memory & run a few mods so might as well

[void void]

yah i have 32gbs

i do notice stuttering

when it rains

i legit have to run fabric sodium or its just too bad

[minor badge]

get sodium, lithium, starlight, krypton, and lazydfu

[void void]

all at once?

[minor badge]

you should find a decent increase in perf

yes

[void void]

oh interesting

i didnt realize you could run multiples at once

[minor badge]

they all complement eachother

[spiral robin]

hello

proxi

[magic river]

starlight instead of phosphor?

[minor badge]

yep

starlight is a new lighting engine (by Spottedleaf) which is considerably faster

also altho beta, works fucking amazingly

[magic river]

lol the benchmark there is funny

[minor badge]

yep

[magic river]

paper: barely better than vanilla

(for lighting)

[minor badge]

look at tuinity's dev/lighting branch too ^^

[magic river]

starlight changes the chunk format?

[minor badge]

no

[magic river]

...yes

[minor badge]

it probably changes in-memory storage of lighting, but the written to disk file should be the same

[magic river]

Nope, says right here it writes a new format to disk

[minor badge]

aha

[magic river]

So if you back out the mod vanilla will have to relight the chunk on load

[minor badge]

thats not an issue though, is it? :p

[magic river]

Probably changes the packet format too

[minor badge]

no, packets are fine

[magic river]

Either that or the client just relights every chunk the server sends

[minor badge]

vanilla clients work fine on starlight

that i cant speak for, no idea abt much with client shit

[magic river]

Doesn't minecraft use the same chunk serializer for packet and disk these days?

[minor badge]

I wouldn't know. It sure works fine for vanilla clients, nonetheless

[magic river]

If the packet skylight has changed you're killing perf for vanilla clients though

[minor badge]

You'd be best off asking in his disc I suppose

[static badge]

network format is identical, chunk format is different

uninitialised nibbles aren't written to disk in vanilla but starlight's init algorithm isn't capable of figuring out whether a nibble should be unitialised or not

[worn ember]

smh dum code

[lean kiln]

leaf speaks in paper

[limpid comet]

first message in nearly 3 months

[worn ember]

finally unmuted kek

[lean kiln]

hes been unmuted

for a while now

[balmy isle]

Anyone willing to help me increase donations on my server? Like think of perk ideas, come up with catchy things, idk.
I've had 600 players join the server in the last 1.5 months, with 35 active players (PlayerAnalytics Plugin) and I've not gotten a single donation
ooh and theres 5 players on right now

[limpid comet]

erm

if you're in it for the money, you're doing it wrong. first focus on a good server with enjoyable content, then money will follow

if you've only got 5 players on your server, sounds like there isn't enough interesting stuff on your server to keep players around

[balmy isle]

I'm not looking for money, I'm looking for support for paying for the server

2h 38m 18s

yeah I guess you're right

could someone help me increase my retention rate? 😛

[limpid comet]

first focus on a good server with enjoyable content, then money will follow

[waxen panther]

leaf speaks in paper

[limpid comet]

do something unique

brocc speaks in paper

[balmy isle]

the server is unique

[limpid comet]

what is it

[desert siren]

anyone knows what plugin can cause this fog? i've tested that world in single player and i don't have that fog...any ideas?

[balmy isle]

OneBlock

OneBlock Skyblock

[limpid comet]

that's not unique

that's been done 1000 times

[balmy isle]

ok, it was unique when I started

now I guess its been oversaturated

[limpid comet]

you gotta hit the ground running with custom stuff. skyblock is the most oversaturated gamemode right now

[balmy isle]

I was legit the first one on the voting site mc-mp

[balmy isle]

There are custom features, but being bad at java + a lack of funds for a developer doesn't lead to too many features

[wild escarp]

server view distance

[limpid comet]

yep, you'll need a sizeable investment (both of time and money) imo if you want to make it in 2021

[regal wigeon]

HI goodmorning

[limpid comet]

learning plugin development could help, since you can make your own features

[balmy isle]

I mean I've put a ton of time in, and a reasonable amount of money too. this is why I want donations, to help fund more development

[desert siren]

is set to 10...that's the result on another server with 10 draw distance

[limpid comet]

players aren't gonna donate to something they don't play, though

[balmy isle]

yeah, I guess

[limpid comet]

600 players in the past 1.5months is fantastic. you need to work on player retention

[balmy isle]

I feel like I'm doing something wrong though, its not just that the content is unenjoyable

[wild escarp]

server.properties view distance?

[limpid comet]

ask your playerbase what they do/don't like

[wild escarp]

.halp

[limber knot]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/555469074080202765/561287494075678721/image0.png

[desert siren]

as i said it's set to 10, like my other servers. But in this i can see that fog...

[balmy isle]

thats an idea. You know of a plugin to ask people to give feedback?

[limpid comet]

why would you need a plugin for that

jsut ask them lol

[wild escarp]

🤷
a) probably #paper-help
b) send a plugins list (in #paper-help)

[limpid comet]

make a google form and ping everyone in your server or something

[balmy isle]

eh fair enough

[limpid comet]

you should keep the discussion available to everyone

[balmy isle]

ooh also

New Player Retention(35/48) 72.92%
so retention isn't the issue, its retention for a long period of time

[desert siren]

they'll say me it's a plugin. i'll bet on it.

[limpid comet]

yes, so retention is the issue lol

[balmy isle]

well I guess

lol

[limpid comet]

idk how your plugin measures retention, i'm not looking for a specific graph. just saying, if 600 players have joined your server in the past month, and you've only got 5 online, that's not great

just ask your players what kind of content you want to see

[balmy isle]

yeah I guess

[limpid comet]

and keep in mind, it will take months, maybe even years to make profit off your server

or any money at all

[balmy isle]

its a 100% eula friendly server

[limpid comet]

cosmetics

[balmy isle]

so there aren't too many perks

yeah

yeah but I don't want to give out legit advantages

it feels scummy

like crates

[limpid comet]

i've always had the idea of making custom chat emotes with a resource pack. i.e. give me $5 and you can pog

[balmy isle]

the point is its totally vanilla though, so I can't give any blocks or anything in crates

[limpid comet]

also, you can sell benenfits for pve

oh

[balmy isle]

thats the draw

[limpid comet]

yea no wonder peoepl aren't playing

[balmy isle]

well idk

😛

[limpid comet]

why would u play a vanilla server in 2021

[balmy isle]

its not vanilla

but its not OP

[limpid comet]

the point is its totally vanilla though

hmm

[balmy isle]

I'm bad at explaning lol

[limpid comet]

add in custom items or enchantments

[balmy isle]

dms

[limpid comet]

if you're playing skyblock you 100% need something custom for it to be interesting

[balmy isle]

yeah, the oneblock aspect

[limpid comet]

that's just there being one block

what's custom about that

[potent fossil]

Lol

[limpid comet]

again, 100s of servers already do that

[potent fossil]

Hypixel hit the scene with adding the RPG aspect and now everybody is copying that too

[balmy isle]

yeah, I see your point

[limpid comet]

yea

[balmy isle]

I don't want to add RPG

[limpid comet]

u need to innovate

[balmy isle]

thats been done

[limpid comet]

its not like 2013 where u can just fire up a shitty factions server and expect a deent playerbase

[potent fossil]

Minecraft server owners are almost never unique. They always copy other more successful servers and then cry when they get no traffic

[balmy isle]

I'm adding prestiging rn, but thats not too exciting

[potent fossil]

Oops sorry forgot this ain't the truth spitting channel

[balmy isle]

so idk

[potent fossil]

Think of a brand new game mode and then pay someone to develop it. No more skyblock, survival, prison, etc please God

[balmy isle]

I tried to be unique. I launched oneblock right when the first oneblock plugin became available, but my advertising wasn't enough, so I didn't get players then, and now its over saturated

[potent fossil]

[balmy isle]

I actually have a really good idea for a sports based server

[limpid comet]

here's a thought

[balmy isle]

but I don't have the money for a developer

[limpid comet]

if a public plugin already exists for it

[balmy isle]

to do it all

[limpid comet]

its not unique

[potent fossil]

Correct lol.

[limpid comet]

if ur not hiring devs or at minimum writing some plugins yourself, you're gonna run into issues like you're having right now

[spiral robin]

hello

[balmy isle]

yeah I know

[spiral robin]

[balmy isle]

I like the idea of developing, I just can't wrap my head around java

[limpid comet]

aber omg ily

u should start trying to learn. there are many many resources available to help you

in my eyes, if you're running a server, programming experience is required

[balmy isle]

oh I have programming experience

just not java

it makes no sense to me 😛

[limpid comet]

what languages have you used

java is just OOP

u have classes and objects, objects are instances of classes

[balmy isle]

javascript

(like nodejs/npm, and browser js both)

[limpid comet]

is js not oop

idk i dont really know much about how js works

[potent fossil]

it can be oop

but it can also be, and often is, functional

[golden gust]

js is... weird... it's like primarily functional, but, there is oop support in some weird sorta bastardized way last I recall

[potent fossil]

and procedural

new ES6 has pretty nice OOP

[zealous wedge]

js is more spaghettiful

[golden gust]

JS is like the modern day PHP

[potent fossil]

class BlaBla {
  constructor(var1, var2) {
    this.var1 = var1;
    this.var2 = var2;
  }
 
  // methods
}

that's valid JS

it's not that bad

[golden gust]

it was the only language to do something specific, and so they kept expanding upon it and expecnding upon it to the point that it now represents this horrific bastardization of what once was

[zealous wedge]

it's not inherently bad, it's just very forgiving and allows people to write software without having design skills

[golden gust]

iirc, objects are more "prototypes" which is the JS way of saying "just bang whatever you want on it"

[potent fossil]

I might have to get into TypeScript tho

[golden gust]

The tooling can't even consistently describe/pick up properties on "objects" do to that

[potent fossil]

huh

You can do Object.keys on anything, and you can check if it has a property with hasOwnProperty

but yeah, I mean, consequences of no real types

[golden gust]

PHPs IDE support is often kinda ass as return types where never really a thing, so they're kinda shimmed in in comments last I recall... It's just, complete bastardization

Yes, but there is no promise that an IDE can auto-complete any of those properties for you

[potent fossil]

oh no, no auto complete, cant code now

[golden gust]

there's no real typing of objects, no real proper defined structure, etc

[potent fossil]

[zealous wedge]

i dunno about you simple, but i'm dum i like having a computer help me along

[golden gust]

It's not that you can't code without auto-complete, it's more that it slows you down and often leads to easy mistakes

[spiral robin]

cant blame a language for poor user practices 😝

[potent fossil]

I actually haven't really experienced that tho, VSCode does a great job at reading the object you're actually using and telling you the properties it has

WebStorm is ass in general

[zealous wedge]

static analysis tools and autocomplete are the only things that make large software projects reasonable to work on

[balmy isle]

yeah I only know the functional aspect

[golden gust]

I mean, there is a reason why people are basically flocking to typescript and such

[zealous wedge]

especially the moment you try to refactor anything

[golden gust]

or, well, flocked

[balmy isle]

I wish someone created a converter from js to java, so I could code in js and see the java equivalent real-time. that would be useful for the learning curve

[potent fossil]

excuse me

[merry cave]

anyone know why this won't parse to a holographic display?

{medium}%server_countdown_MM.dd.yyyy_02.01.2021%

all the other server placeholders work

[potent fossil]

do you have placeholderapi and the proper extension installed..?

[balmy isle]

do /papi parse %server_countdown_MM.dd.yyyy_02.01.2021%

[merry cave]

that works Fred

[golden gust]

I got no idea why you'd wanna like, type in js and move it to java

[merry cave]

it displays it properly, but when I add to a HD it goes burpppp

[balmy isle]

just so I could see how they compare

[golden gust]

compare what?

.g learn x in y javascript

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://learnxinyminutes.com/docs/javascript/

[merry cave]

see?

[potent fossil]

the plugin you use it in needs PAPI support

If it doesn't have it, you're shit out of luck

PAPI doesn't "just work"

[merry cave]

https://dev.bukkit.org/projects/holographic-displays

what I am using

[potent fossil]

yes I can see it has placeholder support, but it doesn't say PAPI support

like, it has its own placeholders?

[fallen oracle]

You need an extra plugin for HD to work.

[balmy isle]

what?

[fallen oracle]

https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/holographicextension.18461/

[merry cave]

https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/holographicextension.18461/

[balmy isle]

oops sorry for ping

my bad

[merry cave]

I have this installed

[balmy isle]

replies are annoying

[merry cave]

as well

[minor badge]

good night, ghost

[golden gust]

See that page that it linked, bask in the horrors that enter your eyes

[potent fossil]

do /hext support as in the doc, it says it checks for problems in your setup

[worn ember]

do /stop for ez fix

[merry cave]

lol dark

[balmy isle]

thats just javascript...

[worn ember]

damn

i thought that was noodlescript

[spare venture]

🥺

[golden gust]

nobody is gonna transpile js to java, java requires aspects like strict typing which would just be a persistent ballache to even consider for any form of project bar screaming "lol, I DID IT", and rm -rf'ing the thing or archiving it in the dark corner of github

[merry cave]

hext support doesn't exist fml

[golden gust]

but, it goes over the language and how specific things do stuff

speaking of do stuff

pokes simple with a stick

[potent fossil]

then the holographic extension plugin did not load...

do /pl

if it's red

check logs...

[merry cave]

no it loaded

[potent fossil]

basic server admin stuff 😬

[merry cave]

think wiki is outdated

is all

https://i.imgur.com/Zo8tPSs.png

[potent fossil]

do you have ProtocolLib

[merry cave]

https://i.imgur.com/4JTrKEk.png

[potent fossil]

did you use a refresh holder in your holograph.

if you have no idea what that is, read the plugin page again.

slowly and carefully.

[merry cave]

I've added {medium}

[merry cave]

as shown ^

[potent fossil]

Yeah, I have no idea then. Gonna have to ask the author.

[merry cave]

okay doke - thanks for your time 🙂

[spiral robin]

[potent fossil]

@spiral robin

[spiral robin]

[sharp sentinel]

Dafuq Windows just corrected "can't" to "caraquoserie", which is not a word

[spiral robin]

me4502

[potent fossil]

It's just trying to help, Me. Least you can do is say thank you. Gosh. /s

[golden gust]

I mean, you can blame windows

Orrrrrr

We can just argue you had a stroke

[sharp sentinel]

lmao

[tropic flame]

that sounds like french and french is a disgusting language so I feel you

[spiral robin]

I was in call with our core team analyzing Party Realms's map structure and any psychological triggers, almost immediately explained to them that there wasn't enough to sustain the momentum and that the player count would drop off by tomorrow. And I didn't just pull that out of my ass, I spent a good 45 minutes outlining over 15+ reasons and lack

[twin lagoon]

[sharp sentinel]

Is that like some copypasta now

[twin lagoon]

yes

[sharp sentinel]

It's like the 4th time I've seen that today

[twin lagoon]

yes

[sharp sentinel]

Where'd it originate?

[twin lagoon]

https://twitter.com/clrxbl/status/1351308082039709697

Michael (@clrxbl)

.@MineClub7 owner "Nixe" at it's finest. Formerly known as Ambushment after dipping a few times and changing his personalia few times. More: https://t.co/pxA50XZTUv

Twitter · Jan 18, 2021, 11:18 PM

[spiral robin]

[spare venture]

😳

[spiral robin]

[potent fossil]

well MineClub is trash but so is OriginRealms so even ground

[twin lagoon]

ok ur fired simple

[potent fossil]

OriginRealms' code and systems are boss, of course.

[spiral robin]

lemoncraft is better

[potent fossil]

But the staff is a joke, and it ruins the entire experience

[spiral robin]

because of idriz

[twin lagoon]

ok ur rehired

[potent fossil]

Will not play there again

[merry cave]

any good suggestions for help book on join?

[spare venture]

OR just needs to buy out PR at this point

[potent fossil]

it's much more preferable to have a website with a wiki as opposed to a book you're supposed to reference in game

[olive marlin]

^^ One of the reasons we are rewriting our website.

[spare venture]

Much easier to maintain a website too

[twin lagoon]

bloodstone

[spare venture]

Mine has a very detailed wiki

[olive marlin]

Michael

[spare venture]

Well not a wiki but whatever

[merry cave]

for adults, I'd agree. Children on the other hand, claim their computers don't run websites

randoms links are the new vans with candy

[spare venture]

My children seem to be just fine

[potent fossil]

I mean...if they are already connecting to your domain to play...it's not a random link...

[spiral robin]

you have kids ?

[spare venture]

No, my children players

[potent fossil]

Kids these days are much more tech savvy than we were as kids

[sharp sentinel]

Wait, where's the source of the actual psychological triggers part tho? The paste.gg just goes over other stuff 😦

[spare venture]

No they’re not

[merry cave]

kids (not all kids) are capable of understanding that haha

[merry cave]

no doubt, but we were much more driven to learn, rather than get everything handed on a platter

[sharp sentinel]

Nah kids have less of an understanding of computers, computers are just easier to use

[twin lagoon]

he never sent those so

[spare venture]

Tech has gotten too simple and easy to use where it isn’t a skill

Yeah agreed

[sharp sentinel]

So the copypasta is just randomly made up lol?

[merry cave]

silver platter, exactly

[twin lagoon]

oh you're talking about that

no it's in a different part that i haven't tweeted

[sharp sentinel]

ahh okay

[twin lagoon]

sec

[potent fossil]

Well when I say tech savvy I don't mean they are educated in the inner workings of a computer or how to administrate one but they definitely know how to access websites

[merry cave]

but fair... I will make my website better... just trash at it

[spare venture]

Children these days are arguably much less tech savvy

[twin lagoon]

https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/6de0692629774e0999985514dd460467

[potent fossil]

It's not some "omg I have no idea how to get on this website and read this information about this server i want to play" situation

[spare venture]

Kids 20 years ago had to know so much more because software was not nearly as good

Yea

[potent fossil]

and if it is that situation, you really...cannot help them

Don't ruin the UX for everyone else because of some idiots who can't open a website

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[merry cave]

I just try to make everything incredibly easily accessible to players, having to navigate to a website out of MC sometimes is the cut off for some kids

[merry cave]

as your name states, SIMPLE!

[potent fossil]

ok well, whatever, gl

[merry cave]

but yes, thank you

[potent fossil]

have fun with the 2012 "server information" books

[olive marlin]

Make an example wiki book. You'll quickly see how hard it is to navigate.

[spare venture]

IMO website is far easier to maintain

[merry cave]

books are no fun, that's for certain

[olive marlin]

And how you gonna update player's books?

[spare venture]

Honestly if going to a website is the cutoff for them, they won’t last long on the server anyway.

[potent fossil]

inb4 wdym update it will be complete and never touched again from the start 👀

[merry cave]

I'd just give one at spawn, and obviously expect them not to lose it, duh

[potent fossil]

lol

called it

[merry cave]

aajdkfhajd

lol

I chuckled, I obviously know it's not the ideal method.

[potent fossil]

so if you add new features, how do players who joined before the new feature learn about it

they just...have to get a new book?

yikes

please don't

[merry cave]

they got to the library

[spare venture]

Just make it a command to open up the book

[spring mango]

Is it normal for a laptop to reach 84 degree while playing minecraft?

[potent fossil]

ok, if that's a real question, no

[potent fossil]

dual core

[spare venture]

Is there no cooling

[potent fossil]

okay maybe

[merry cave]

it's a hot potato

[twin lagoon]

speccy can be very inaccurate

use hwinfo64 or hwmonitor

[zealous wedge]

ok so if you can't get players to go to a website

[spring mango]

All I can hear is the fans screaming

[spare venture]

Okay so there is cooling

[potent fossil]

creaming

[zealous wedge]

how are they ever going to buy things for the server

[merry cave]

here we go ^^

[potent fossil]

donation via book!

[spare venture]

simple fuck off

[potent fossil]

[coarse lily]

Who the hell is this person?

[merry cave]

lol y'all trolls

[potent fossil]

wat did i do

[spare venture]

reacting with my reactions

get yer own

[zealous wedge]

yall are allowed to share reactions

[merry cave]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-pablo-lonely-alone-gif-12928789

this his me rn

[twin lagoon]

desteria /mineteria founder, some what known if you've been in the server community for ages

scammed a couple 10k and dipped, comes back with this

[spare venture]

but he’s a millionaire! Obviously he wouldn’t need to scam anyone! Fake news

[coarse lily]

Yikes.

[potent fossil]

I mean, the only reason I left to never return to OR is the staff

The content is 💯

Kinda wish I could play, but I will not while that trash is managing it lmao.

[spare venture]

👀

[potent fossil]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[coarse lily]

simple the Discord staff does not necessarily equal the server staff, right?

[potent fossil]

they are the server staff

(and discord staff)

[spare venture]

It was their community manager

[potent fossil]

lmao

community manager more like community divider

[zealous wedge]

wat

[coarse lily]

Well alright then.

[merry cave]

did anyone play on Legendarycraft?

felipe & pablo

[spare venture]

idk did you play bartyrealms

[zealous wedge]

what's bartyrealms

[spare venture]

dead server

[potent fossil]

literal 17 year old managing the OR community and can't actually manage the community, just yells at the wrong people and defends the actual troublemakers, then gets mad when they are told that they are yelling at the wrong people

[spare venture]

they shut down 11 days ago

[potent fossil]

lmao

rip BR

[merry cave]

LC was like 2013? or 14?

[spare venture]

I still genuinely don’t know how you can get PTSD from someone saying “simp”

[potent fossil]

fucking ridiculous lol.

[spare venture]

If it were my server I would’ve said “uh, if you don’t like that, ignore them. they aren’t breaking any rules by using that word”

[potent fossil]

me: joins OR
barty: hey simp
entire server: excuse me what the fuck?

[zealous wedge]

what on earth

[coarse lily]

It's their Discord. They get to decide what words they don't want people using. But they didn't handle it very well. And the person who was "upset" wasn't staff, IIRC, they were some rando. But the staff sided on the "can't you just respect my wishes?" person.

[potent fossil]

It's....my name....

They weren't using it as the adjective, like I said 7 times

They were calling me my name

[merry cave]

does anyone have a good website example of solid help / rules

[spare venture]

Best part is they started joking about PTSD from spiders 5 minutes later and I said “please don’t joke about PTSD”, and I got yelled at. Left after that

[spiral robin]

simp

[potent fossil]

asahhhhh dude

no but actually, that is my nickname

[spiral robin]

ok simp .

[potent fossil]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[merry cave]

lol

[golden gust]

911, yes, plz send somebody out, I need the woke brigade asap

[coarse lily]

That Discord deteriorated pretty quickly from there.

[potent fossil]

u gotta loisence for being that woke, cat?

[golden gust]

i err, on the spot

o

i misread

dam u dumple

[potent fossil]

alroight that's it, oim taken yuh en.

ok that hurt to type

fuckin brits

.kill cat

[limber knot]

shoves cat into a microwave and waits until they pop.

[potent fossil]

fuck classes tomorrow

[vast idol]

Omg a 5th ender chest inventory missing. What is happening lol

[limber knot]

Yo simple what we ever done to you?

[potent fossil]

huh

jamie are you a brit

[limber knot]

'fuckin brits'

[potent fossil]

damn it, that means I have to love brits now because i love jamie 🥺

[limber knot]

😁

[spare venture]

can't relate

[potent fossil]

ok mr graduate

[merry cave]

https://tenor.com/view/roy-purdy-new-diploma-who-dis-graduation-gif-10024562

[void void]

Is there somewhere specific I should look to find instructions about constructing my plugin.yml?

[brave radish]

https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/plugin-yml/

[void void]

oh so it's the same as the spigot one

[brave radish]

and here

https://bukkit.gamepedia.com/Plugin_YAML

[brave radish]

yes

[void void]

That makes everything a LOT simpler.

Thank you

[brave radish]

a spigot plugin should run on paper without even being recompiled

[potent fossil]

yes unless it touches NMS and paper has modified that NMS method

[spare venture]

nms gross

[brave radish]

in which case it can still work, just losing paper's improvements, but yeah sometimes it won't

[potent fossil]

no, in those cases it likely won't work if the nms method was modified in paper

(and not in spigot)

[brave radish]

well, if the plugin did it by overriding a method completely, it's possible it would still run, but, anyway, point is Mastergle they usually work

[potent fossil]

might load yes, but when the feature that uses nms is used it may error out

and in plugins like that where the author is an idiot, it may just outright break

[brave radish]

there are a lot of "mays" and "mights" here

[potent fossil]

correct

we're both saying the same things in different words, I was just confirming your message

[limber knot]

I can relate to 'fuck classes tomorrow' 😂

[brave radish]

and "probably" and "sometimes", etc, but, if a plugin is 100% API, it should work, otherwise it's likely a bug in paper

[potent fossil]

if it's 100% api it definitely will work

[brave radish]

and NMS plugins that use paper-modified stuff is just a dice roll

[limber knot]

Or rather, I could and did, I can't at the moment.

.>

[potent fossil]

alright damn, i need to focus

[brave radish]

lol

[potent fossil]

i've been unproductive all day

[limber knot]

I'm unproductive most days lol

[spare venture]

i have been unproductive so i'm doing laundry

[limber knot]

I need a fun project to work on tbh

[spare venture]

PR

[potent fossil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjMpbMEK9Lk

entire song about doing his laundry bc his gf who did his laundry left his ass

[brave radish]

hangar looking nice

[potent fossil]

hangar sekc

[merry cave]

weird today was incredibly unproductive for me at work as well.

y'all work from home?

[spare venture]

unemployed

[potent fossil]

same

thanks covid

[warm anchor]

[merry cave]

sorry to hear.

I've been going to the office since June

[brave radish]

eternity do you have an emoji for everything?

[potent fossil]

ok intellij just crashed trying to build this disgusting project

[brave radish]

what project?

[potent fossil]

freelance rpg thing

and now i am requested as house tech support to set up a dvd player

[merry cave]

you freelance 2012 server books simple?

[potent fossil]

brb, let me apply my professional skills

[merry cave]

🤣

[warm anchor]

For the most part yes

[spring mango]

WTF, this guy just DM'ed me about phishing/hacking! I hope this person is joking.

[twin lagoon]

ok

it's just a discord bot

report and move on

[spring mango]

How do u report?

[golden gust]

The trick is to buy stolen cards and order stuff to your own house

[next wind]

https://discord.com/safety/360044103651-Reporting-problems-to-Discord

[potent fossil]

.g discord trust and safety

oh

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/categories/115000168351-Trust-Safety

[spare venture]

thicc plugin

[spring mango]

Ah okay u have to report in the website I see

[potent fossil]

yea, or just block and ignore

[warm anchor]

On iOS you can report

If you really care

But they will just make another bot so I don’t bother. Block and move on

[lethal locust]

Just finished rewriting static abuse as object orientation, and I feel like dying

[potent fossil]

that should bring you power

[limpid comet]

yea when i finally stopped abusing static i felt so much better

[spiral robin]

[waxen panther]

when i started abusing guice i felt a lot better

[potent fossil]

Dependency Injection

My favorite

[limpid comet]

this

[golden gust]

abusing is fun

[waxen panther]

6mb jars

[golden gust]

especially ren

a cat is fine too, desudesudesu~~~

[limpid comet]

cat pls

[potent fossil]

this actually bops https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16MvJnUByrA

it's like a 50's song but it's about weed

[golden gust]

u know what you need

[potent fossil]

weed

[golden gust]

a colt 45 and 2 zig zags

[spiral robin]

@waxen panther

[potent fossil]

yeah that way i can smoke while playing target practice at your shiny metal ass

[golden gust]

kinky

[waxen panther]

[spiral robin]

Your poor fiance @potent fossil

[potent fossil]

huh

[golden gust]

She knew what she got into

It's her own damned fault

[spiral robin]

True

Maybe she likes it .

[potent fossil]

My fiancee is literally me except a woman

[spiral robin]

Sounds like a keeper 🥺

[potent fossil]

If you ever meet her, prepare yourselves

[spare venture]

terrifying thought

[golden gust]

I'm not sure if that's adorable or scary

[waxen panther]

oh god

not more simples

[spare venture]

^

[spiral robin]

How long till we get some baby simples ?

[potent fossil]

she can give you good financial advice though

[potent fossil]

👀

[golden gust]

That feels like a blessing

[waxen panther]

i dont want good advice

i want BAD advice .

[golden gust]

To be fair

[potent fossil]

well she can give you bad advice about programming

[golden gust]

simple needed that advice

[waxen panther]

pog

[spiral robin]

You are the example of bad financial advice brocc !

[waxen panther]

yes

bought more memory today

and ate out

[potent fossil]

i really did tho

[waxen panther]

[spiral robin]

[potent fossil]

she helped me get out of debt lmao

[golden gust]

well, figured u couldn't do it urself

coz ur simple

[spare venture]

buy GME stock

[potent fossil]

true x2

[spiral robin]

Aberdeener (will uwu if pinged)

[potent fossil]

@spiral robin

[spiral robin]

[waxen panther]

[spare venture]

disgusting

[spiral robin]

party (will run a dead server if pinged)

@spare venture

[waxen panther]

brocco is not disgusting

[spiral robin]

Oh already does

XDDDDD

[spare venture]

my server aint dead

[golden gust]

it's resting

in peace

[spiral robin]

zzzcat (will ghost if pinged)

[golden gust]

oh, cute

[spiral robin]

On a downwards trend party .

[spare venture]

seems alive to me

[golden gust]

that's what the server I was doing stuff for years ago managed when it was dead

[spare venture]

the server is 11 days old

[vast idol]

any dynmap alternatives anyone has been happier than with dynmap?

[potent fossil]

bluemap is the only competitor i know of, but im not sure if it's for 'live' view

[signal current]

hey i just met you and this is crazy but ... can i combine my fabricloader jar and my optifine jar to have both on the same installation ? (i think i remember doing this a long time ago but i was probably drunk)

[potent fossil]

i dont think so, fabric has its own optifine-like plugin called sodium i believe

[signal current]

pfft. i bet it has no capes

[vast idol]

there is optifabric for fabric

[potent fossil]

oh

[vast idol]

you juse the optfine jar and the optifabric mod

optifine jar will go in the mods folder

[potent fossil]

oh yep, nice. did not know about that

[limber knot]

Nobody can see those Optifine cakes anyway...

But there are ways to install fabric and optifine

[potent fossil]

optifine is the only one that does shaders right?

[waxen panther]

there is a wip project for fabric shaders

[potent fossil]

i mean short of a separate glsl mod

[vast idol]

https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/optifabric

[signal current]

i should note that i'm running worldeditCUI thru fabric so that needs to work too

[waxen panther]

dont see why it would interfer

[signal current]

ok

[waxen panther]

simple: https://github.com/IrisShaders/Iris

[limber knot]

Honestly you're better off asking in a fabric community

[signal current]

this has helped me, thank you friends

[potent fossil]

you're welcome jamir

now never talk about Call Me Maybe again or I will be forced to kill you

[potent fossil]

[limber knot]

Nothing wrong with a classic song like that simple :p

[potent fossil]

classic

jamie plz

[limber knot]

Hehe

[olive marlin]

As simple said, there's bluemap. I personally can't switch yet, but looking forward to it.
I know there's also Billy's plugin which is still WIP, but looked nice.
Also, what you don't like about dynmap? If it's the website view, there exist other frontends like LiveAtlas.

[signal current]

thanks guys it worked

[spare venture]

ij being awful lately

prob just my laptop

[zealous wedge]

newest CUI for 1.16.5 adds limited support for optifine shaders too :p

[spiral robin]

I thought you were singing Call Me Maybe song at first 😔

Zml

[merry talon]

I just saw a 3080 box in the wild

Presumably with one in it

[waxen panther]

impossible

they dont exist .

[merry talon]

AMA

[waxen panther]

ok, q: how high are you

[merry talon]

not at all unfortunately

maybe if I stole that and sold it...

[waxen panther]

now you're thinking

[potent fossil]

[cosmic raft]

@true canyon https://twitter.com/renattack/status/1349531163686105088

ren (@renattack)

Kitten learned about the printer today #CatsOnTwitter #cats https://t.co/EuoAXWRqFj

Retweets

110

Likes

510

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Twitter · Jan 14, 2021, 1:37 AM

[true canyon]

KITTY

[cosmic raft]

https://i.imgur.com/EPULQBN.png

why 295 as a max

weird number

[warm anchor]

it increase by 5 slot each time you level up your steam profile Kashike

capped at 2000

[cosmic raft]

[cosmic raft]

How the fuck do you have 1431 friends

[warm anchor]

dont ask

[cosmic raft]

I just did ask

[warm anchor]

13 years of careless adding and never remove?

[wraith trail]

don't you run some dota thing

or some other game

[warm anchor]

yeah I do

[cosmic raft]

https://i.imgur.com/YOsAA2W.png

https://i.imgur.com/sTewEaQ.png

[warm anchor]

some classic games you got right there

[cosmic raft]

and you?

[warm anchor]

[cosmic raft]

jeez

[wraith trail]

thats over two years

[cosmic raft]

@true canyon I think he beat you slightly

[potent fossil]

wtf

[cosmic raft]

that's 2.2 hours of playing roughly

[potent fossil]

.wa ((19032/24)/365)

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) Exact result: 793/365 - Decimal approximation: 2.1726027397260273972602739726027397260273972602739726027397260273... - https://is.gd/fp6ahu

[potent fossil]

that's insane

[limber knot]

Among Us is where's it's at at the moment

[cosmic raft]

I disagree jamie

[potent fossil]

it was hype but that's starting to die again

[cosmic raft]

nobody wanted to play with me when I asked

[warm anchor]

disclaimer I dont actually play that much.. most of those times are afk lol.

[limber knot]

It's great, a bunch of us from work play regularly - usually for upwards to 5 hours a go 🎉

[potent fossil]

that's why my cyberpunk is at 20 hours

[warm anchor]

I was into the esport and things and spent most time organizing inhouse games

[potent fossil]

i left it on the menu while i slept

kekw

im not gonna continue my current cyberpunk stage bc im tryna simp one of the in game chars and i need a female char for that :'(

[warm anchor]

That's literally what I am doing rn lol

[waxen panther]

[warm anchor]

did they fix most of the game bugs?

[potent fossil]

i have no idea

[cosmic raft]

found my new favourite kek emoji

[potent fossil]

haven't opened it since christmas or smth

[waxen panther]

[cosmic raft]

[limber knot]

simple I have the same dillema, going to go for a replay shortly

[warm anchor]

this is best kek

[potent fossil]

the braindance girl ❤️

forgot her name already but i wanna simp her

[waxen panther]

it is the only good kek

[limber knot]

omg, it's Judy Alvarez

[waxen panther]

kekw makes my eyes bleed

[potent fossil]

JUDY

Right

[waxen panther]

KASH 😠

[cosmic raft]

hearing that made me think of a song

[limber knot]

I'm on for a Panam romance on current playthrough

[cosmic raft]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sr2D5YwJKCk

[high niche]

jesus christ

[merry talon]

I suppressed the memory of the time I fed 5 or 6 frogs to a single toad until this day

and then my mother just had to bring it up

[spiral robin]

@cosmic raft

[swift root]

i may be very late on the uptake for this one but does anyone know if timings reports' raw JSON structure has changed recently?

used to have a plugins object iirc, can't find it anymore 😄

[wraith trail]

Not in the last while

at least in the parts i've touched, plugins still exists

[cosmic raft]

hi aberererererererererer

[potent fossil]

i sent that in the wrong channel at first :((((

aber

[merry talon]

mfw they renamed raspbian to raspberry pi os

[potent fossil]

bad move

[merry talon]

[vast idol]

anyone here use Inventory Rollback spigot plugin on a per world basis?

[potent fossil]

negatory

[spare venture]

Per world?

[golden gust]

Guys

https://wiki.theory.org/YourLanguageSucks#Scripting_languages_suck_because

js, js

walks back out

[warm anchor]

[spiral robin]

Why is your superstore so difficult to navigate

It took me 35 minutes to find PASTA !

[zealous wedge]

lol

are there superstores that aren't difficult to navigate?

[spiral robin]

Yes my home one

Maybe because I'd been there for years

[potent fossil]

i don't think I've ever been to a legitimate 'superstore'

my city is on the smaller end, so our stores are big but like...not that big?

[spiral robin]

This is a store called superstore

Not a store that is super

[potent fossil]

Oh

Lol

[zealous wedge]

it's not that super of a store

[spiral robin]

STUPIDstore !!

[zealous wedge]

the one near me is terrible with covid precautions... at least the customers are

[spiral robin]

Safeway

[limpid comet]

shit dude

i haven't heard the word safeway in years

[zealous wedge]

lol i never really go to safeway, at least not before covid

[spiral robin]

Why not

[limpid comet]

yea i used to live super close to one but i never went in all that much

[zealous wedge]

just was never close to one and it was kinda expensive

i had a good no frills where i used to live

[spiral robin]

U pay more because it's safe

[zealous wedge]

and i usually get groceries on my way home from work anyways

[potent fossil]

is safeway like costco where you need a membership just to shop there

[spiral robin]

Many Safeway are now being bought and flipped into Fresh Co

No lol

[limpid comet]

no

who owns safeway

[zealous wedge]

safeway's just a normal grocery store

[limpid comet]

.g safeway parent company

[zealous wedge]

sobey's?

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safeway_Inc

[spiral robin]

Wtf

[zealous wedge]

i think safeway canada is different from safeway US

[spiral robin]

Asylum lookin hq

[potent fossil]

Albertsons

[limpid comet]

albertsons

[spiral robin]

What's your job, zml? If you don't mind

[potent fossil]

That's one of my local stores

[limpid comet]

cool, we have sobey's out here

aren't they loblaws or something

my uncle manages a ssobeys

[spiral robin]

Wholesale Club

[spare venture]

aren’t superstores just like Walmart

[zealous wedge]

i thought they were a competitor to loblaw's

[spiral robin]

Yes but not as much stuff

[zealous wedge]

i'm a theatre tech aber

so haven't been working much recently :p

[spiral robin]

ah ye

[limpid comet]

wtf really zml

like

on stage

[zealous wedge]

i mean i'm usually backstage, but yes

[limpid comet]

wtf thats reallyl cool

i had no clue

[spiral robin]

[limpid comet]

somehow i just fullscreened discord in bspwm

i wanna know how to do this again

[spiral robin]

F12

[limpid comet]

nomeggies

im sure i wrote a keybind in my config and immediately forgot about it

[spiral robin]

[marble hedge]

Guys, whats that plugin called where u can see your rank how much money u currently have how many plots etc?

[waxen panther]

could be literally anything

[limpid comet]

literally any scoreboard plugin

liteboard,featherboard, etc

(both of which i dont like at all, just giving names)

[marble hedge]

Okay so its a scoreboard plugin thanks

Ill delete the picture aswell just incase someone thinks im advertising

Thx

[regal wigeon]

萎えた

[spiral robin]

[regal wigeon]

ぴえん

[potent fossil]

English please

[spiral robin]

Simple tell me about your avatar

Is is custom

[potent fossil]

I stole it

[spiral robin]

What does it mean to you

[potent fossil]

It means uh

Purple creature drinking purple drank

[spiral robin]

Interesting

[regal wigeon]

I dont know how to say 萎えた in english

[potent fossil]

https://static.jacobandersen.dev/shared/🥛🐆😙😦🥘.png

deepl > google translate if you want to get meaning across

[regal wigeon]

maybe when you lost something motivation japanese peaple say “萎えた”

[potent fossil]

idiomatic English would (probably) be "I'm burnt out"

[regal wigeon]

”萎えた” is little bit slang

[potent fossil]

to some extent so is "burnt out", we don't literally mean we are burnt

[regal wigeon]

yeah it is japanese too

[potent fossil]

Nice