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#general
twin lagoon
ashen cliff
Kosovo is Serbia.
meager tusk
Kosovo is Albania
zealous wedge
many people ask what is Kosovo, but who asks "how is Kosovo"
meager tusk
olive marlin
Will it be edited by human? Will it be edited by your script?
What is standard format for language/ecosystem you using?
ashen cliff
Kosovo is Albania
Well yes, Serbia is also Albania.
ashen cliff
meager tusk
worn ember
visual egret
Will it be edited by human? Will it be edited by your script?
What is standard f...
Python, human
i am making a thing to control my systems remotley
untold copper
I was good at studies.
Then 9th grade happened.
visual egret
mc related stuff
twin lagoon
WASM 
olive marlin
Oskar why not use Ansible/Invoke?
meager tusk
Michael 
ashen cliff
How I see Paper when Aikar commits a patch:
olive marlin
Or fabric, I guess invoke is only local.
mental meadow
my staff? đź
visual egret
ill just go with toml
olive marlin
And what kind of structure your data is.
golden gust
knowing michael, he deserved it
olive marlin
If it's quite flat, toml is a good choice.
golden gust
you mean bastardized ini files?
visual egret
general strings, ip's and stuff like that
olive marlin
Not sure what you plan on managing, but I'd recommend you either Ansible, Invoke or Fabric 2.0
You can get a lot of stuff done quickly with them.
hallow wigeon
anyone know why i can't throw ender pearls at the block directly in front of me?
hallow wigeon
none of my friends and i can on my server
visual egret
what block is directly in front of you
void void
U guys ready?
visual egret
no
hallow wigeon
if a block is highlighted it doesn't let you throw
hallow wigeon
wow
void void
Damn
visual egret
whar
hallow wigeon
damn somebody was faster
visual egret
thats invalid
potent fossil
there is a bot in here that auto snipes nitro
visual egret
that was never valid
hallow wigeon
bruuuh
potent fossil
a few actually
hallow wigeon
that's gay
golden gust
There are bots which sit in places claiming codes
visual egret
uh oh
meager tusk
it's sad
golden gust
It's shitty
meager tusk
void void
olive marlin
That's why you send them in base64 or any other format.
visual egret
damn
olive marlin
Or make people work for it.
void void
Exciting random shit
visual egret
we should have a thing for trusted people only
ashen cliff
He just posted an old link.
cunning raft
paper does
ashen cliff
Legit, google it. 4 months ago.
coarse lily
People do that all the time.
void void
Stop dreaming đ€Ą
hallow wigeon
okay but why can i not throw an enderpearl if i am looking at a block of bedrock?
coarse lily
Just yesterday someone's nitro expired and they said "hey buy me nitro" and someone did.
ashen cliff
I mean... I didn't expect anything else.
https://posili.me/i/2021-01-11_19-25-45.png
cunning raft
yikes and their yt it "griefing" content
void void
Just yesterday someone's nitro expired and they said "hey buy me nitro" and someone did.
@coarse lily big simp
hallow wigeon
hahahahaa
void void
yikes and their yt it "griefing" content
@cunning raft wait dude how do you get that supporter icon
hallow wigeon
by not making griefing content
void void
coarse lily
Haha
hallow wigeon
xaxaxaxa
meager tusk
or fuck off
hallow wigeon
"shut up and take my money"
warm anchor
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worn ember
Yayaa
cunning raft
proxi is COOL
void void
The right side of nitro icon
cunning raft
you are LAME
void void
Thatâs called Proxi XD
worn ember
Tf did I do
cunning raft
eeks dee
meager tusk
<:cutePepeWave:789856816657072168>
worn ember
Stoopid weeb
warm anchor
Ded joke 
worn ember
Ded joke <:riesure:784411967036063764>
I lost every game the last few days
void void
wdym
worn ember
It's your fault
warm anchor
void void
đ„ș
dim shadow
anyone here use oldcombatmechanics?
worn ember
Still higher rank than u :)
warm anchor
Gotta use meta hero
void void
Whatâs that oldcombat thing
worn ember
They're boring tho
dim shadow
Whatâs that oldcombat thing
1.8 pvp mechanics
im not sure how it plays out with shields enabled tho i aint trynna ban shields
coarse lily
There's gotta be some kind of "we love 1.8" Discord.
void void
Nope, I do think you can find one on spigot website
There's gotta be some kind of "we love 1.8" Discord.
@coarse lily play Bedrock Edition đ„Ž
dim shadow
im neutral, im just giving it a test run on my server cuz some players request it & it seems to be more popular on pvp-centric servers like mine
coarse lily
> There's gotta be some kind of "we love 1.8" Discord.
<@188417437295706113> pl...
Not for me.
void void
New items with old combat system
coarse lily
For other people
warm anchor
Tell them if they want real PvP go play CSGO
dim shadow
New items with old combat system
yessss this is exactly my point of inquiry
warm anchor
Coz Minecraft PvP is a joke
void void
And higher performance with lower customization
yessss this is exactly my point of inquiry
@dim shadow why donât you just host a Bedrock Edition server XD
dim shadow
Coz Minecraft PvP is a joke
agreed but idk man nobody pvps anymore on my server and the players that used to be pvp kings back in the day are usually the 1.8 advocates
main complaint is shields are op
void void
awwww
void void
Everyone love 1.8 đ
dim shadow
> yessss this is exactly my point of inquiry
<@628689060105551882> why donât yo...
ill consider it the day they get to spigot/paper tier
void void
Lmao
worn ember
Do we really need this conversation every fucking day holy shit
void void
Change one then
dim shadow
omg no i aint trynna start a discordance
back on topic guys does anyone got experience with 1.8 mechanic plugin
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@zealous wedge https://open.spotify.com/track/3nOOZwg5oYZQI86kPeEYrS
worn ember
Every time someone mentions 1.8 it turns into this shit
dim shadow
i know its a contested topic i aint trynna get banned again lol gotta lay low
void void
back on topic guys does anyone got experience with 1.8 mechanic plugin
@dim shadow g o o g l e I t p l s
visual egret
personally
dim shadow
and frankly im neutral; i see the points of both systems
visual egret
im working on 1.8, current and combat snapshot pvp minigames
warm anchor
Oskar you are like 3 when 1.8 first comes out 
visual egret
stfu
dim shadow
> back on topic guys does anyone got experience with 1.8 mechanic plugin
<@62868...
duh ive tried google, its a very specific question apparently
dim shadow
im working on 1.8, current and combat snapshot pvp minigames
any way to integrate shields into 1.8 mechanic or is it one or the other?
visual egret
any way to integrate shields into 1.8 mechanic or is it one or the other?
right click with a sword
boom
void void
any way to integrate shields into 1.8 mechanic or is it one or the other?
@dim shadow
visual egret
you get dealt half less damage
dim shadow
so no shields?
void void
I still remember those old days, pvp players carry 1 stack of beef and lava
dim shadow
i see shields being slightly less effective as u can inflict damage quicker
hell no i aint got a team and my dev agenda is backed up
void void
dim shadow
i wish i could use that paper patch but idk last time i messed with intellij it was a day long project
void void
Somehow, that probably means you need to learn coding
dim shadow
(by intellij i mean paper source)
dim shadow
i do know how to code... papers source is just intimidating, although i did manage to find what i was looking for
like i aint even trynna code, this plugin can already toggle shields. im just worried about the consequences of enabling them
from a balance standpoint, not a technical one
warm anchor
I mean you already allow people to spam click. Why not
void void
Sometimes, you donât need to think that much
warm anchor
If anything this balance out people with auto clicker
dim shadow
i cant help it im always overthinking an anxious and itll probably kill me one day
ill just try it with shields and see what happens, its gonna be a test server first anyway
warm anchor
Idk how big your server is but you have to consider vocal minorities
When you apply changes
dim shadow
very tiny these days and yes i do consult about major changes like this
warm anchor
People who bitch the most is sometimes not majority and following their wishes often end up hurting you more than anything
dim shadow
yup lol been there, ur right 1 loud voice can sometimes sound louder than 10 quiet voices
void void
Yeah you hosting server for friends or public?
warm anchor
The last thing you wanna do is apply this stupid 1.8 PvP things. Piss off people who donât care
dim shadow
public lol i aint got no friends
warm anchor
And you revert it back and now everyone is pissed
void void
then you donât have to worrie about that
People who using auto clicker are just dick
dim shadow
hmm maybe i should get a larger sample size
olive marlin
We poll like 90% of behavioral changes.
dim shadow
this could be bigger than i thought
warm anchor
People who are ok with what it is right now wonât actively tell you itâs good
dim shadow
hm thats very true
warm anchor
Charge yo phone bro
void void
why?
visual egret
yo gimme nitro
waxen panther
can u give me nitro please its worth a try lol *other 13 year old noises
void void
đ„șwhy you guys all have âearly supporterâ
olive marlin
They bought Nitro early?
warm anchor
You have to pay discord early 
coarse lily
Also who cares?
warm anchor
2016 iirc or 2017 I forgot
void void
aww
waxen panther
yeah
void void
waxen panther
i need more badges
visual egret
ayo shadow you got money right
warm anchor
I used to have partner one 
visual egret
send me it in dms pls
waxen panther
oskar your subtle sarcastic / non sarcastic nitro simpin is kinda cringe man
worn ember
waxen panther
!!!!
warm anchor
I have more
void void
dramatic
warm anchor
I am prepared for Oskar
meager tusk
Hey when I click this the nitro gift becomes bigger. Please fix.
void void
meager tusk
Thanks!
void void
Imagine how this kid feel
slim nymph
warm anchor
verbal yarrow
warm anchor
Lol
void void
void void
Thatâs not funny
warm anchor
meager tusk
what have you done
golden gust
I can't believe you've done this
slim nymph
that corner
warm anchor
Hahahaha
waxen panther
papermc
dim shadow
im from aikar fan club
void void
papermc is the best paper I ever used
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ocelot
coarse lily
Hi proxi
dim shadow
papermc is close 2nd best paper for me
warm anchor
Have you try toilet paper fork
solid siren
is there anyway to prevent use of freecam? cant see any plugin
coarse lily
Shad0w did you come here to ask a question or something or just to troll?
warm anchor
not really kath
vernal moth
is there anyway to prevent use of freecam? cant see any plugin
No that's impossible
dim shadow
is there anyway to prevent use of freecam? cant see any plugin
no sir
solid siren
i see thankss
solid siren
ohhh
dim shadow
unless u distribute a custom client which is a bootable os
vernal moth
Not much tho
warm anchor
but you will also nerf everyone else lol
solid siren
my view distance is 4
void void
Have you try toilet paper fork
@warm anchor yes I did, the performance is even better, I can now use it doing more advanced thingy like j*** ***
Thanks papermc
dim shadow
wtf tolet paper fork?
void void
Exactly
dim shadow
it took me a minute LOL at first i was trynna picture a fork made of toletpaper
it didnt form well
void void
Thanks for free nitro!
worn ember
I'd burn anyone alive who @everyones me for shit like that lol
warm anchor
LOL
everytime I @ everyone in my server I get like 20~30 leaves
people just dont like to get pinged 
worn ember
Idm getting pinged lol but 90% of the time idc about whatever they have to say
waxen panther
lmao eternity
warm anchor
warm anchor
yes without fail!
meager tusk
warm anchor
@anime & manga
new season is here I usually ping it once
tropic flame
mmmm i can't wait for the next fork of Paper, now written in Kotlin /s
woven otter
wtf it didn't work
void void
They donât like you ping them cause you annoyingfor them
dim shadow
mmmm i can't wait for the next fork of Paper, now written in Kotlin /s
if only we could find a ancient programmer to rewrite paper in assembler
it would be the death of performance issues
woven otter
or i mean if paper devs designed the server from the get go
dim shadow
mojang should admit defeat and cede responsibility of the server side to paper
like when microsoft was like ok u win and now edge is chrome based
official server could be paper based
tropic flame
hmmmmm what would that mean tho
like
legally speaking
paper devs become mojang devs by contract?
warm anchor
They donât like you ping them cause you *annoying*for them
It's funny coz it reflect on the graph too when I ping people LOL
dim shadow
im sure they can work something out, microsoft got dat bank
void void
Exactly,
warm anchor
It's a feature on Discord Public server
I honestly dont know if it's open to everyone yet.
Go to setting -> Server insight
potent fossil
plz use normal text in your discord nickname in here
warm anchor
it is a very useful tool as you get a weekly or monthly report on server activities. @dim shadow
untold copper
@warm anchor how u got those
warm anchor
IMAGINE READING! but yeah Setting > server insight
warm anchor
idk how that graph works tbh is that total server or total server members
ashen cliff
Why even show .5?
limber knotBOT
half a vote
untold copper
limber knotBOT
your value is .5 persons
untold copper
hey on the bright side my server is having its first ever nitro giveaway
untold copper
your value is .5 persons
and you my friend, are worthless
warm anchor
maybe it's age... a follow from youngling like snoopa counts as half runs
limber knotBOT
nitro giveaway >bright side
untold copper
ay it feels good
untold copper
maybe it's age... a follow from youngling like snoopa counts as half *runs*
đ
slim nymph
mmmm i can't wait for the next fork of Paper, now written in Kotlin /s
then enjoy the 4 billion implicit null checks that totally destroy performance
waxen panther
warm anchor
I can make it 3 
waxen panther
lmao
untold copper
xD
waxen panther
i make 1 announcement a year its not worth it bro
compact pulsar
What's the server hosting that you guys are using?
untold copper
bloomhost
visual egret
self host on a raspberry pi 
untold copper
ovh
tropic flame
then enjoy the 4 billion implicit null checks that totally destroy performance
hence the /s LMAO i know you'd never commit that kind of atrocity
waxen panther
phoenixnap
untold copper
or that
potent fossil
oh we doing kotlin hate
visual egret
like always
dim shadow
What's the server hosting that you guys are using?
nfoservers
visual egret
dim shadow
best vps in vps land
dim shadow
is that on onion or something
visual egret
What's the server hosting that you guys are using?
i host my entire network on a google cloud micro instance, works very well, usually averages 0.9 TPS, so good since TPS is out of 1
potent fossil
Contabo. Best. Host.
last place i worked started off with a contabo server that had almost 400gb of ram to run a single webserver
limber knotBOT
azure 1gb woot
visual egret
21TB of ram on azure, too little
dim shadow
how tf u get tb's of ram
visual egret
no idea
limber knotBOT
visual egret
azure somehow manages it
potent fossil
it's called virtualization
ashen cliff
last place i worked started off with a contabo server that had almost 400gb of r...
Epic.
My favorite dedicated Apache machine was a 10 year old Xeon trashcan.
8x 12 core and 1 TB of ram.
"Very fast"
"Very efficient"
potent fossil
dim shadow
u still need a physical machine with that much ram to virtualize it
warm anchor
load entire world onto RAM
limber knotBOT
lots of dedotated wam
warm anchor
ez
dim shadow
unless they somehow got parallel processing vm's figured out
visual egret
https://timings.aikar.co/?id=b0d78e4185c64335aa2706fdc53e8a50
advertising through aikars flags
potent fossil
@dim shadow consider that it's multiple machines in a cluster, presenting as a single vm
k8s does magic
dim shadow
bruh how tf
dim shadow
thats literally parallel procesed vm's
potent fossil
yes
limber knotBOT
o interesting, it's in the upgraded state
dim shadow
bruh i want that
ashen cliff
potent fossil
start your new career choice
limber knotBOT
guess someone tried to join within an hour ago
dim shadow
what tools are used for this? i got pc's layin around collectin dust i can cluster up into a vm server
dim shadow
k8s
potent fossil
thats what its called
dim shadow
thank u sir
potent fossil
pronounced kubernetes
visual egret
Daily reminder: https://timings.aikar.co/?id=6b48586fbbdd48e585ca0ebb07c59dd0#pl...
wtf is this
ashen cliff
Hell itself.
dim shadow
omfg bruh
limber knotBOT
yes
ashen cliff
BOSCH!
dim shadow
im about to have a heart attack over this
limber knotBOT
VM orchestrator
dim shadow
ive dreamt of clustering shit up before but never had any real application for it
this brings hella applications
potent fossil
yes
limber knotBOT
BOSH is easier IMO but, muh containerz and googlez sez da ppl
visual egret
@ashen cliff i found out why it was broken, it was a small detail in the timings
potent fossil
you can make it so that you app starts with one instance and as traffic starts hitting it, it autoscales and makes new instances to handle the traffic
and when the traffic dies down, it'll kill off those instances
love me some of that shit
ashen cliff
<@!219443401974611970> i found out why it was broken, it was a small detail in t...
Working as expected.
potent fossil
tf are those robo
dim shadow
so like does it actually execute threads on diff computers?
potent fossil
i only know k8s đŒ
limber knotBOT
no it's just multiple instances
potent fossil
you tell k8s to run the app and it'll run it many times and then you interact with it as if it's one instance and k8s will handle which backend instance is actually used
limber knotBOT
tho, ur instances have to be stateless
dim shadow
whats stateless?
dim shadow
oh lol lame
limber knotBOT
e.g. websites
potent fossil
like, your apps don't save their own files into themselves bc the container it's running in can be killed any time
limber knotBOT
they can save to something outside that's fine
potent fossil
so when you have to save stuff, you save it to a db or fileserver elsewhere that all containers can access
dim shadow
so id have to store my server/world files in a shared folder used by all instances & then move as much as i can to sql? would that work or nah
potent fossil
i have never tried doing mc in k8s
don't know how that would turn out 
mc is very stateful
golden gust
You'd store persistent data in a volume
potent fossil
but running multiple servers on 1 set of server files sounds not good
dim shadow
defo not lol
golden gust
if you need data at runtime, you'd basically use a ephimoral concept
e.g. the data stored in the container itself will be destroyed when the container goes byebye
But, during container startup, you'd pull the data from somewhere
potent fossil
@dim shadow this kind of thing would be great for minigames, like hypixel's minigames, where the servers are like...not saved, they are just archives that a container can spin up, download, unpack, and run
dim shadow
oh damn thats how its so fast with so many players lol
potent fossil
but not for a normal survival server, im not really sure how that would work as they'd all need copies of the data and keeping that in sync is like wat
dim shadow
its just a bunch of tiny servers together running simple to process games
potent fossil
yes
they also all use slime world format, so the world is entirely in memory, the maps are custom made so nothing is loaded that doesn't need to be etc
olive marlin
k8s would work great for minigames, it's not worth the effort for just a handfull of servers IMO.
dim shadow
yeah ive heard about slime
potent fossil
well, i just dont know how k8s would be used to scale a survival server
olive marlin
I know there are attempts at seamless regionizing the server.
potent fossil
when they need to all use the same world data, that's just like. idk how that disk data would be kept ok
olive marlin
So one instance runs some chunks, another does another one.
olive marlin
But it's meh.
potent fossil
But you have to pay for that shit
Idk how to do in k8s without paying for spatialos kek
meh, not worth
dim shadow
So one instance runs some chunks, another does another one.
omg lol i did it that way with a game i was making long ago
potent fossil
for very stateful mc servers, just, yeah, get a nice big beefy server and run it. for stateless mc servers like minigames or lobbies or something then k8s is <3
dim shadow
cluster players together and run those clusters individually
golden gust
you can't really scale survival servers as-is
potent fossil
yea
olive marlin
k8s doesn't really like stateful apps in the first place.
dim shadow
still suck if ur players mainly play alone tho lol
limber knotBOT
any scaling solution doesn't like stateful
golden gust
containers in general haven't really got a solution for storing state, tbqh
dim shadow
well not really thats even better
limber knotBOT
horizontal that is
twin lagoon
k8s 
limber knotBOT
ephemeral VMs, containers, etc.
ashen cliff
When am I getting fiber?
https://posili.me/i/2021-01-11_21-05-22.png
golden gust
most of the best solutions generally seem to be to just store it on the disk directly, which is discouraged, or basically go the route of having network storage seperate
ashen cliff
Went from 1 year, to a big city paying them off, so it became 3 years, now it's NEVER.
cosmic raft
told you
spiral robin
kashike 
ashen cliff
At least I have fiber at the place I can't live at.
mossy vessel
Imagine getting fiber 
next frost
copper must be enough
ancient bolt
I refuse to have anything but fiber
ashen cliff
Already proven that wet string is enough.
next frost
we're having fiber in our local network now tho
ashen cliff
Running fiber at home is cheap AF now.
Even cheaper than 10Gbps RJ45.
next frost
yeah wasn't even that expensive
ashen cliff
Well, it used to be.
next frost
I mean, it also depends
if you're already having a lot of cables installed everywhere, switching to fiber is a lot of work
ashen cliff
Perhaps.
warm anchor
actually if you are in certain part of asia, just run new lines will be easier...
limber knotBOT
well if you have a ! in your username I agree
ashen cliff
Just add another one.
round grove
you dont
waxen panther
wtf
round grove
pay someone else to do it
warm anchor
I mean that's the result of "just add another one"
limber knotBOT
all usernames that have a that stoopid dum ! in their dum name should die
warm anchor
over years
round grove
well its not my fault
limber knotBOT
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
round grove
my brains
zealous wedge
are you using someone else's account?
oh ok you're a troll
why am i not surprised
waxen panther
ah yes
round grove
dude no i just couldnt come up with a name
limpid comet
broccolai - very dum / owned
waxen panther
Just be like broccolai <:broccoLove:789864790389948436>
more like be more like eternity đł
zealous wedge
it's a great marker to know who to avoid
limpid comet
broccolai get back to brainstorming quantum anime girls
waxen panther
dude no i just couldnt come up with a name
I have a GENIUS idea for you, you could have exactly the same name but without the ! :OOOOO
no i need to name brocco emote
zealous wedge
like imagine if the idiots irl wore hats with "i'm an idiot" flags on them
waxen panther
that would be nice
i mean i can think of a couple hats that symbolise that
but thats all I'll say 
warm anchor
broccolai get back to brainstorming quantum anime girls
ITS ACTUALLY HAPPENING 
potent fossil
quantum what
spiral robin
Quantum đ
round grove
I have a GENIUS idea for you, you could have exactly the same name but without t...
oh yeah
good idea
let me change my username..
there
its done
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@zealous wedge 
zealous wedge
uwu
spiral robin
pepega
woven otter
wtf
round grove
what
spiral robin
hello
zealous wedge
hi aber
in
coarse lily
Gotta be faster I guess.
tropic flame
you can't take the 1.12.2 out of my soul!! my essence!!!1
zealous wedge
@.mods pls fix reactions for eternity
true canyon
Is there a reason for not publishing latest in #announcements ? đ
limber knotBOT
What latest?
coarse lily
Like when there's a new build available?
true canyon
Clarification: I mean using the discord publish feature to push the announcement to other places subscribed.
limber knotBOT
That makes more sense
stiff yarrow
My heads a mess today 
drowsy urchin
Why are theyâre so many exploits being found?
Iâm not complaining just wondering lol
woven otter
people are creative
potent fossil
@waxen panther 
coarse lily
If it gets pushed as is then it makes a lot less sense because there's less context.
coarse lily
Why are theyâre so many exploits being found?
Probably winter break. Lots of time to tinker.
ashen cliff
Paper: Don't auto update.
Also Paper: PLS UPDATE DAILY!
coarse lily
Haha
thick torrent
why the update now?
ashen cliff
Villager exploit thing.
drowsy urchin
I remember having an auto updater and It updated to a broken build corrupted my world.
ashen cliff
Can't dupe if the server doesn't work.
drowsy urchin
vast idol
my god what now lol
next frost
vast idol
So are all these exploits lately in vanilla or spigot/paper only?
woven otter
it's not a bug it's a feature
imagine a world where you can turn off your server with redstone
drowsy urchin
Hmmm
vast idol
"Press in case of emergency"
drowsy urchin
Oh wait
limber knotBOT
Command blocks
golden gust
I mean, the update is a trivial one over the last
auto updating is bad as you never know what shit's gonna happen in the middle of the night
woven otter
Command blocks
well those don't count đ
golden gust
keep your eyes on changes and use your best judgement
austere ivy
@potent fossil đ„ș hello!!! uwu
potent fossil
oh brian
warm anchor
I remember having an auto updater and It updated to a broken build corrupted my ...
You are now obligated to reply when someone ask to auto update in #paper-help
drowsy urchin
Alright, đ
coarse lily
cat you fixed the debug stick? That's pretty cool.
wraith trail
it actually works as intended now
so thank you
also the nether portal radius thing- two of the patches I have been waiting for for a while
dull linden
What's the debug stick? :o
wraith trail
/give @p debug_stick
wraith trail
I just use it for building. Stuff like rotating stairs and redstone lamps
dull linden
O I see
wraith trail
but on paper it was updating all the blocks around it, basically making it useuess
wraith trail
it was supposed to do this https://sulu.me/3ef133.png but instead did this https://sulu.me/95fc3d.png
void void
Hey, paper 1.16 exist ?
wraith trail
yes.
warm anchor
void void
I don't find wtf
wraith trail
it's the first thing you see on the downloads page
dull linden
void void
No
olive marlin
1.16 doesn't exist
void void
Its the 1.16.4 version
olive marlin
Starts with 1.16.1
warm anchor
1.16.0 nope
void void
Not the 1.16
wraith trail
ah yeah 1.16.1
olive marlin
Because Spigot didn't release it.
wraith trail
you get it via the api, but why
lean kiln
lmao why would you even want that
olive marlin
1.16 was latest for 1 day or so.
dull linden
.4 fixes a lot of dupes and exploits anyways lol
warm anchor
The version is broken and dup glitch exist. Please for the love of god dont use it @void void
void void
Okep thanks
zealous wedge
technically there are two 1.16 versions
mojang re-released
which one were you asking about @void void
warm anchor
lol dont enable him
zealous wedge
i'm just here to make fun of them
warm anchor
LOL
zealous wedge
unless you're a worldgen modder you should be using 1.16.4
and even then at this point most of them have updated their mods
wraith trail
have there been any important worldgen changes between .1-.4?
zealous wedge
1.16.2 did a bunch with datapack things
snow crescent
We're hoping to be 1.16.4 by the end of the quarter
wraith trail
be 1.16.4 now
snow crescent
It's not that easy when you're running an entirely custom codebase
warm anchor
Are you the owner of hypickle?
twin lagoon
it is if it isn't a mess
snow crescent
well it is a mess ;p
zealous wedge
remember that the spigot ecosystem is still mostly using tooling from the stone age of modding :p
there's no intermediary, javadoc, and automated remapping here
meager tusk
It's not that easy when you're running an entirely custom codebase
is it not
implement abstractions on top of shit
snow crescent
I'm the sole developer, so no it's not easy
wraith trail
well good that you're updating
void void
The version is broken and dup glitch exist. Please for the love of god dont use ...
1.16.2 it's good ? x)
wraith trail
1.16.4 it's good
void void
Yeah i now
meager tusk
void void
But
wraith trail
1.16.2 it's not good
wraith trail
1.16.3 it's not good
dull linden
rip the dispenser ones xd
golden gust
Known
coarse lily
I'm the sole developer, so no it's not easy
I have faith in you Rian
snow crescent
I don't have faith in me
twin lagoon
idriz 
snow crescent
However I've made it clear that I want to be able to focus on it as of next week
meager tusk
michael 
snow crescent
I have the fun job of updating our paper 
snow crescent
our paper fork just makes AABBs mutable
meager tusk
2021 is panning out great
twin lagoon
snow crescent
From what I've read of it so far
olive marlin
Michael 
zealous wedge
iirc AABB's used to be mutable, and they were pooled by the game
coarse lily
Depends.
void void
How do u feel about 25k
coarse lily
It's all down to preference.
What the server is, how many players, how long the map will be around, what the terrain is, etc etc
void void
yeah ik, but im not sure what would be a middle ground
Well, 0 members because its not public
coarse lily
Then the border doesn't matter if there's no one playing on it.
void void
Survivial, Economy with skills etc
Yeah I know, but for newcommers
I am using EWG, prob worst investment ever
wish I could have my money back lmao
coarse lily
Dunno what EWG is.
void void
well
coarse lily
You should get your money back.
coarse lily
I would use one of the plugins suggested in that thread instead.
As EWG is poorly written.
warm anchor
Dpend on what type of server you are running
10k maybe enough if it's just a small SMP
you can always expend it later
void void
you can always expend it later
Yeah thats also true
I just need to figure whether im gonna use EWG or not
because it will be based on it
warm anchor
That's with added benefit of having new terrain
dont use EWG there are other good custom generations
void void
But my money xd
warm anchor
Someone pointed up EWG has many copied codes from other plugins... I remember the topic on reddit not too long ago.
void void
You know when u spend ur money on "premium" plugin
esp an expensive one
hurts not to use it
warm anchor
you can always do research before making your purchase
coarse lily
We call that the "sunk cost fallacy"
coarse lily
You spent the money, and that sucks, but cut your losses and use a better free plugin.
warm anchor
coarse lily
You've either made the money back by now or it's a loss
void void
Yeah I saw that
void void
xD
warm anchor
oh... sorry I dont backread
coarse lily
If you can't get a refund you're still better off ditching the plugin. Having regret that you bought it won't improve the quality of it.
warm anchor
dont you EU people has better customer protection?
void void
what
warm anchor
for refunds etc
void void
3 yrs old payment? doubt it
void void
It was prolly paypal as well
void void
the worse thing that can happen is you get banned from spigot
I have few purchases
dont want to lose them
merry talon
lol I was just casually scrolling through my very nsfw twitter feed in the break room
I am truly desensitized
twin lagoon
coarse lily
Hey Camm
viral hornet
G'day Ocelot
warm anchor
wow bunch of cool people in chat 
olive marlin
Is it possible for TE to disappear? I have nothing in CoreProtect logs (I know, will migrate to prism this year) or anywhere...
dim shadow
man why isnt minecraft://myserver.com a thing
dim shadow
necessary for wat
void void
idk
olive marlin
Via is better than PS.
void void
i found it in my plugins folder lmao
olive marlin
It's for letting other client versions on your server.
void void
oh
twin lagoon
protocolsupport can be fucked off
twin lagoon
works fine
void void
idk, it was causing errors in console
void void
I just deleted it
I need viaversion and backwards for 1.16.4
idk if its worth
do people not like playing on 1.16.4?
warm anchor
If they cant be arsed to update, those are not the players you want anyway
coarse lily
1.16.4
void void
i c
void void
I think its nice to have 1.16.x
warm anchor
The Mojang launcher even default to latest for people.
void void
yeah i noticed
dim shadow
lol i had this one stubborn player stuck on 1.16.1
died to a brute he thought was a normal piglin
void void
BURH I KEEP GETTING AN ERROR
dim shadow
he updated after that
void void
I deleted all protcollib and via wtf
dim shadow
sho error on pastebin
void void
I think there is something wrong with paper
because everytime i delete the plugin it says it has error
dim shadow
paper is perfect
dim shadow
try with 0 plugins then add one by one
warm anchor
You know you can do reverse right
void void
warm anchor
run with no plugin first.
dim shadow
LOL
warm anchor
no we mean run server with no plugin first
potent fossil
it just means take all your plugins out and add them back in until it breaks
much easier to find the culprit that way
rather than randomly removing stuff till it unbreaks
limber knotBOT
I like binary search
wraith trail
you can put in half to be more efficient
potent fossil
well make educated guesses
coarse lily
Also maybe try #paper-help
cosmic raft
@potent fossil https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSLauyt0QdQ&t=13s
void void
Also maybe try <#289587909051416579>
i did earlier, no one bothered to help with my pastebin
void void
well make educated guesses
i tried
limber knotBOT
binary search is the fastest, I've dealt with 140 plugins
cosmic raft
she is crazy :D
potent fossil
<@!698668938661331045> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSLauyt0QdQ&t=13s>
I hated that woman with my entire soul
potent fossil
i can't watch this, it hurts too much
coarse lily
What the hell show is this
cosmic raft
iCarly
dim shadow
omg i used to love that show
warm anchor
Easy there RoboMWM ~~dude can barely read ~~
potent fossil
plz
twin lagoon
kashike
dim shadow
video is country locked lol
potent fossil
cosmic raft
RIP
warm anchor
is that the Uk edition
cosmic raft
Nickelodeon UK hates you
cosmic raft
It's just the UK channel that uploaded it
dim shadow
oh dam ok
void void
What is protocollib
void void
ah i c
cosmic raft
here @dim shadow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aV4fVxAfIMU&t=30s
void void
hm
cosmic raft
try this one
dim shadow
đ yes that 1 works
coarse lily
I think I dated someone like that kashike . . .
dim shadow
i have 4 trynna upgrade to 10
void void
damn papi
dim shadow
rip power bill but worth it
dim shadow
since chilehood ive had this image of me in a room filled with computers n monitors, nasa style
dim shadow
but i didnt make it into nasa so i gotta fulfill dream myself
dim shadow
just buy a ton of bitcoin bro
void void
too late
void void
LOL
dim shadow
gandalfino
void void
If i want to create another world
do i use /mv create {worldname} normal -t flat.
and then i can connect them both with a portal using a plugin?
warm anchor
mv has a portal plugin too
potent fossil
mv portals will do what you want
coarse lily
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asjQNZn7vng>
How did you get a video of my office?
potent fossil
coarse lily
There is something nice about having like 30 displays to put up a bunch of stuff or the same stuff.
Maybe that should be my new goal.
20+ displays
warm anchor
30 is kinda overkill