purpur changes phantoms a little bit
#general
spare venture
golden gust
Still convinced that the main reason billy maintains a fork is so that he can ride all the mobs
spare venture
that is primarily why cat yes
spiral robin
what rule did i break
spare venture
the crime of being alive
waxen panther
aber rule
spare venture
but yes i intentionally put the australia portal in the center so it was in the worst part
spiral robin
waxen panther
lazy
viral hornet
I'm not actually going to play either xD
potent fossil
heady spear
XD
potent fossil
someone gave me 5k
spare venture
australia is 8k blocks across about
potent fossil
how many is philippines
spiral robin
spare venture
https://partyrealms.com/mapsource/
idk im not counting for you
potent fossil
did chat like my exit camm
waxen panther
i need food
spare venture
FriedNoodz: he was fun
zyn4: truly amazing
irl
potent fossil
good stuff
viral hornet
carrots and potatos do not grow in the middle of australia randomly
this map is WRONG
heady spear
the only food i want is camm bcuz he a snack
spare venture
yes they do, do you even live in straya?
viral hornet
no
spare venture
exactly
spare venture
yes there is
viral hornet
no
spiral robin
wtf
spare venture
looks like a lot of water to me
spiral robin
lazy
waxen panther
camm stupid lol ?
viral hornet
camm stupid
spiral robin
xd moment
spare venture
imagine not knowing every pond in australia
spiral robin
where is turbo's house so we can visit manchas 
viral hornet
he lives in a gross part of sydney
spiral robin
coords?? @spare venture ??
spare venture
heard the internet sucks there
viral hornet
not as much anymore
more and more places are finally getting NBN
I mean, it's no US lol
but it's fine
100down 40up
potent fossil
i had that a decade ago
spare venture
You ever seen the movie holes?
potent fossil
wtf camm its a classic
viral hornet
holes makes me think of trypophobia
spiral robin
stinky
spare venture
Okay well
When I think of Australia I think of a place like where holes takes place
heady spear
When I turn on the shower there's no water
viral hornet
ahuh
heady spear
it has a separate pipe from my normal sink, which does have water
this happens all the fucking time in this building
viral hornet
what kind of backwards shithole do you live in
viral hornet
ye, that's fucked mate
spare venture
Camm stop saying that like you don’t have to get a bucket of water every day from the village well to fill your bath tub
viral hornet
wtf baz
mortal zinc
if I wanted to add a tool to the tool section on the paper forums that has its own update checker, is that alright?
or would I have to take it out?
spare venture
I would imagine it’s fine, prob should add an option to turn it off tho
mortal zinc
yes, i do that with my programs, default to on
spare venture
Plenty of plugins do that
mortal zinc
this isn't a plugin, just a tool to aid in the testing of servers and plugins
slim nymph
Discovery finale :+1: 💯
potent fossil
was pretty good
slim nymph
As intense as it was I was expecting cliffhanger
potent fossil
same lol, that's their favorite thing to do
fiery carbon
moop
potent fossil
im working on my third decade right now
mental meadow
Good morning
Why are people always so... Anger inducing
waxen panther
😡
potent fossil
lol
waxen panther
CAMM
viral hornet
Morning uwuora
waxen panther
STOP LURKING IN PAPER
viral hornet
Ok
mental meadow
Camm uwu
limber knotBOT
today I heccin learned that the default "Balanced" power profile does quite a bit of throttling on servers at least heccin wow
all this time I've been deceived that balanced scales up with the load (at least not so on server) and further deceived that server would have sane defaults
zealous wedge
@mental meadow good morning 
mental meadow
uwu ❤️
chrome quest
So I have a .sh script starting up a screen for me and then I have it execute a few commands in afterwards. When I run the script manually it works perfectly, but when the crontab runs it, it fails. The commands just show up top and it opens some sh type of terminal. It didn't execute the commands.
merry talon
cron is weird
i like systemd timers
but your issue is probably not that
you'd have to provide the script
heady spear
frick yeah gamers, pasta is amazeballs for reals
coarse lily
Well my Internet shit the bed. :/
heady spear
there's nothing to watch on netflix .-.
ancient bolt
watch anne with an e
coarse lily
City watch CATCH ME IF YOU CAN.
heady spear
Swedish Netflix only has documentaries about fish and Norwegian movies from the 70s
coarse lily
Oh right, regions. Ugh.
heady spear
it does have anne with an e tho
ancient bolt
its a real good show
if you enjoy that genre
worst part about it is netflix did what netflix does and cancelled it after 3 seasons
limber knotBOT
watch epic norwegian movies from the 70s city!
zealous wedge
watch an with an ime
heady spear
wtf that sounds like something a WEEB would watch
zealous wedge
you could try just adding a permission attachment to the server console setting bukkit.broadcast.user to false
zealous wedge
wat
heady spear
also the above example is how u deal with server warnings
zealous wedge
no bad city
heady spear
no it's epic
zealous wedge
b a d
heady spear
i had pasta and then chips and it's only 10:30am, today is a great day
im gonna be 600lbs by this summer. No need for buses if I can just roll around
zealous wedge
it's 1:30am and I cant sleep :(
zealous wedge
@ionic apex did you just delete your messages?
limber knotBOT
ah well irc never forgets your idiocy I guess
heady spear
anyway the log filtering is not even the most offensive part of that class lol
limber knotBOT
IRC never forgets!
zealous wedge
go for a walk!
zealous wedge
walk with an elk
zealous wedge
make them your friends!
heady spear
they might eat me
zealous wedge
sounds hot
heady spear
u do
zealous wedge
no u
minor badge
was it u x
minor badge
my work slack has epic custom emojis
worn ember
are you just saying that cuz u wanna blow city? 
heady spear
mine does too proxi :333
heady spear
you know what i hate tho ?? if you do inline code using `` and type text after then the space disappears and you also can't add spaces before
because then it'll be a part of the code snippet thingy
it's very annoying
also no syntax highlighting ?? ?
worn ember
thats what u get for using slack
you can copy paste code in teams and it'll keep the highlighting
heady spear
I've never used teams but it does look cool
twin lagoon
@minor badge uwu
coarse lily
Slack is pretty shit at handling formatting.
heady spear
JetBrains space seems cool too
coarse lily
And I'm not quite sure why they almost implemented markdown.
coarse lily
JetBrains space seems cool too
I just signed up for tht.
Gonna try to use it for a side thing and see how it goes.
heady spear
slack is aight, it just feels quite unpolished in some areas
the integrations are dope tho and so is the whole message thread stuff
coarse lily
I got so used to the Discord reply thing that not having it on Slack is super jarring.
I think the threads thing is too confusing.
heady spear
it's good for when you need to keep track of conversations and what was said, I wouldn't use it for casual conversations tho
then again I don't use slack casually anyway
coarse lily
Yeah I use Slack for work.
olive marlin
We mostly use threads per-message (someone sends something and it usually starts a thread). Though it's a bit confusing and harder to get notifs and stuff.
coarse lily
But Slack is pretty shit from an information storage perspective.
And conversations send up happening in all kinds of different channels.
I don't think it's very useful as an actual productivity tool. It's just a bigger more RAM intensive IM client.
olive marlin
We use Rocket for work. Don't recommend at all. Replies, threads, discussions, rooms...
olive garden
tick the "also send in #channel" tickbox in Slack -> replies just like in Discord, as well as a thread
untold copper
untold copper
kk
worn ember
who's keeping the dictionary of banned words on twitch?
twin lagoon
@zealous wedge 
limber knotBOT
👋
void void
Do people have a preference of block locker or lwcx? Is lwcx performance friendly being a fork of a old plugin?
I use block locker but not using signs seems like it would be nicer to have. Just curious to know other people's experiences
limber knotBOT
I like Lockette. The nostalgic signs are part of the experience :-)
mossy vessel
@twin lagoon 
waxen panther
lean kiln
poggers
woven otter
heady spear
wtf that's nsfw
visual egret
ikr
vernal moth
who's keeping the dictionary of banned words on twitch?
its not a banned word, they just removed the face of a dude who actively incited violence from their platform, seems fair to me
"java.nio.file.NoSuchFileException: \.\pipe\docker_engine" fuck you too docker
worn ember
its a fucking emote who cares 🙄 but yeah whatever idc enough about it to write an essay 🙂
worn ember
plz no ban
vernal moth
thats not even pogchamp, thats pog
worn ember
same dude tho
vernal moth
less visible tho
worn ember
be nice michelle
viral hornet
worn ember
proxi, ur such a hater 
quasi valley
can't use adventure in Via because of maven >:(
or it would require unlawful hackery
worn ember
whut why
visual egret
maven is fun
rose magnet
is there an open source discord bot that can check servers status?
worn ember
can't use adventure in Via because of maven >:(
explain yourself 
quasi valley
Velocity (and soon™️ paper) shade it, but for other platforms we ourselves have to shade and relocate it
but since we already have quite a complex build configuration and abstract classes using it, we can't have those different per module
visual egret
is there an open source discord bot that can check servers status?
it takes a few minutes to write that in python
look at the mcstatus lib and discord.py
pretty much all you need
worn ember
hm, i see, so mainly cuz of your already complex build system its not really possible to do with maven without breaking stuff?
dont you have to do the same things with gradle tho, relocating and such
worn ember
is there an open source discord bot that can check servers status?
ik there are a few bots for it, but idk any names
vernal moth
paypal is weird
rm=2. The buyer's browser is redirected to the return URL by using the POST method, and all payment variables are included.
Request URL: http://localhost:8080/paper/Test?donation-success&_csrf=f499c942-e6ca-4bf8-aaa0-73f126a83288&token=3PL96186EE927862U
Request Method: GET
ok then
worn ember
told you its weird
vernal moth
fun thing, it was properly returning with a POST before
idk why its not anymore
it send a POST, i had to fix csrf, not it sending gets
worn ember
i dont remember how it works exactly been too long :/
dont remember running into that issue tho
vernal moth
kek, now my login thingy swallowed the POST 😂
rose magnet
is it possible to check a status of a server inside a proxy using a discord bot?
olive marlin
Levi you need to contact the server through the query, it can be different port than the server.
Idk if any of the proxies do expose status of servers.
Would probably be best to ask in a channel dedicated to proxy you are using.
@rose magnet ^^
vernal moth
nothing?
cedar spade
but since we already have quite a complex build configuration and abstract class...
pssssst there's a solution for creating complex build setups :p
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olive marlin
What you mean? Just let gradle convert it and hope it works.
limber knotBOT
Throw enough free time at it and it will work
cedar spade
I have an extra week of holiday now
olive marlin
Contribute to gradle maven converter enough to make it able to migrate Via 
vernal moth
rewrite hangar auth 😄
vernal moth
so: never? 😄
quasi valley
see you 2077
also the time Cyberpunk will be bug free and America has gone away from a 2 party system
cedar spade
Actually might pick up Runway at some point, idk yet
left swift
1 party system 
cedar spade
0 party system best party system
limber knotBOT
infinite party system best party system
left swift
Party realms system
iron zephyr
Alright, for fun, since I’m busy convincing someone on a different discord not to use Yatopia: what server fork should they use? Wrong answers only please 😂
left swift
Spigot
limber knotBOT
visual egret
TacoSpigot
iron zephyr
Oh, glowstone is still a thing
limber knotBOT
yes
iron zephyr
TacoSpigot
That’s not actually a thing... right?
wide chasm
It is
iron zephyr
Oh my gosh it is
Nooo, it’s dead. I would totally switch to TacoSpigot 😢 the list of optimizations is beautifully mediocre. 😂
limber knotBOT
glowstone is alive to some degree https://github.com/GlowstoneMC/Glowstone/commits/1.16
Still getting the commits
iron zephyr
Nice. Well, good to see the unnecessary forks community is still alive and thriving
vernal moth
out of all forks, glowstone isnt unnecessary
limber knotBOT
There's also nacho spigot, which supports java 11 so it's not that unnecessary
Also crashes on shutdown on windows
teal ermine
i have a general question regarding spawn location. does anyone know how to disable the option which causes a player to re-spawn on the location they logged out. i want them to respawn on world spawn
iron zephyr
Good point. I guess each server owner has specific needs for their server software
iron zephyr
i have a general question regarding spawn location. does anyone know how to disa...
Most world managers have something like a “RememberLastPos” flag which you can set to false. Don’t remember if there’s anything for just basic paper
https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/how-to-respawn-players-at-server-spawn-point-after-relog.45169/ @teal ermine
I have a general question for other waterfall or velocity server owners: how do you all keep your backend plugins updated? Do you manually update all your copies of essentials?
twin lagoon
just a deployment system
iron zephyr
I don’t know what that means, sorry 😅
limber knotBOT
Probably CI or something
iron zephyr
You can link to an article too, I don’t mind reading 😄
twin lagoon
from what i've seen on a few servers most of the time it's just a modified bash start script to copy stuff from a central NFS directory
candid mesa
Does anyone know of an extremely lightweight dynmap config?
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/bluemap.83557/
visual egret
bluemap > dynmap
afaik dynmap isnt that resource intensive while doing anything else than rendering
iron zephyr
from what i've seen on a few servers most of the time it's just a modified bash ...
Okay, thank you!! Would you be willing to provide an example?
visual egret
i just use Git
for me its a simple case of
#!/bin/sh
cd /home/oskar/minecraft/OskarsMC-Proxy/
# Git
git fetch origin master
git reset --hard FETCH_HEAD
git clean -df
java -Xms512M -Xmx512M -XX:+UseG1GC -XX:G1HeapRegionSize=4M -XX:+UnlockExperimentalVMOptions -XX:+ParallelRefProcEnabled -XX:+AlwaysPreTouch -XX:MaxInlineLevel=15 -jar velocity.jar
Wow I keep asking people and no one has ever given me an alternative. Thank you so much!
worn ember
bluemap is the only alternative at the moment tbh
waxen panther
having velocity jar on the repo 4weird
left swift
visual egret
i got no idea what im doing wrong, i never did that much research
worn ember
whats the difference between "lastCompletedBuild and lastStableBuild in jenkins' api? can you mark builds as stable or something?
visual egret
.g difference between "lastCompletedBuild and lastStableBuild in jenkins api
limber knotBOT
waxen panther
thank you oskar
minor badge
you can archive artifacts for failed builds, ded
stable is probably when you get full sunshine, successful is just not failed, completed is anything, etc.
minor badge
it does
but jenkins also tracks how many fail and succeed; 4 failed then 1 green gets a storm icon and is not stable
worn ember
ooh ok
minor badge
but idk exactly how the api reflects those states
worn ember
so you need at least x successful builds for it to be marked stable?
minor badge
5 i believe
worn ember
makes sense
minor badge
cloudy for 4, and stormy for 1; not sure abt inbetween
worn ember
still kinda weird tho. Cuz if it builds properly after a failed build it means you fixed the issue, how would that not be stable then?
visual egret
just in case i guess?
minor badge
1 fixed build doesnt necessarily mean its safe to use
cedar spade
brb commenting out tests
minor badge
its useful for when jenkins runs tests and can fail build if you fail tests
worn ember
5 succeeded builds doesnt necessairly mean its safe either tho
void void
ye
minor badge
its more likely to be as now your tests dont fail all the time :p
cedar spade
5 is likely more stable than 1
worn ember
i suppose, but if your tests only fail occasionally they're not really good tests are they
But yeah, whatever lol
thanks
prime pawn
Hey, how are you all doing?
prime pawn
ikr 😦
worn ember
exactly
i was listening to this "show" on spotify and this woman had to talk between every song like bruh
prime pawn
Like for radios to have adverts, fair enough. But talking 50% of the time and having ads 10% of the time then music 40% it's annoying af 😠
worn ember
yeah
mental meadow
i mean it's kinda their job
worn ember
their job is to play music /s
left swift
/j /play /f /s
prime pawn
I don't see how talking between songs should be a job, doubt it'd make any money -_- Like the only reason why I listen to a station like that is because all of the stations around here talk between songs. If there were a single one that didn't talk between songs that only had adverts, I'd rather listen to them.
Then they get more viewers meaning more ad prices meaning more monehhh
left swift
Yeah who would pay someone to listen to them talk
worn ember
half the time its not even interesting topics
prime pawn
If we wanted entertainment like that, we'd just have some kinda youtube or twitch content playing instead XD (audio only, otherwise 🚓 )
worn ember
and same news all day
prime pawn
What if the car/radio has no input huhh
left swift
Buy new car
worn ember
radio waves are free tho
left swift
prime pawn
Welp, I am sad 😦
Designed the most amazing gamemode ever n spent a few hundreds on buildings for it. Such a waste 
waxen panther
sad !
left swift
sAD !
worn ember
why is it a waste?
prime pawn
To make the content for it, it would have taken far too much time and money to develop it 🙄
I stopped developing ages ago, when I decided I wanted to become a big data analyst, not just a prorgammer. I decided screw worrying about efficiency, readability, scalibility and effectiveness. I just wanna solve my damn problems
But yeah, general concept of the game is anyone can make/join a guild which auto creates a floating castle. This castle has a vault which acts like an enderchest for each guild member that has infinite storage
worn ember
isnt that the whole point of a data analyst tho?
prime pawn
Each guild has its own dungeon, when the guild gets raided all the content from the vault get put in chests in the dungeon, the rarer the loot the deeper it gets put in
The guilds deploy their own traps, bosses and monsters for the dungeon
General concept ^ so you can see why it would have taken so much time to develop XD or money
And not really. @worn ember here's how I like to visualize it. Picture a wet facewasher. You twist it, squeeze it in any way you can imagine to get as much water out of it as possible. In this case, the water represents information
worn ember
does sounds like a lot of work, but if you're willing to do it over a longer period of time it should still be manageable
prime pawn
And not really. @worn ember here's how I like to visualize it. Picture a wet facewasher. You twist it, squeeze it in any way you can imagine to get as much water out of it as possible. In this case, the water represents information (Soz, didn't send for some reason)
And maybe, but I'd rather do management and such these days. That's only the concept, the rest of the design would sound absolutely daunting to do.
But damn, how fun does that sound to play? Just the concept alone.
left swift
Thanks for the server idea
worn ember
worn ember
reminds me somewhat of captain sparkles his towerdefense gamemode
idk if that ever got finished or not
prime pawn
Well, my network was designed with greek mythology in mind, so my design was a lil extra. The idea I thought when I came up with this, was what if there was a way for players to make their own dungeons for other players to raid?
Currently, the closest you can get to that idea is public plugins allowing faction officers/leaders to hire sentries and that's about it lmao
worn ember
yeah usually those are all custom made
teal ermine
does anyone know a good way to setup command npcs on 1.16?
prime pawn
Some of the floating castle that was made 😛 (note I generally play in shaders most of the time. Kinda have the specs that can handle it ig)
visual egret
i play with shaders often too
prime pawn
Fair. The only thing that bugs me is I see no difference from 2k/4k Minecraft, but unless I scale using Windows (which changes everything) every time, I have to play in fullscreen if I want to make it 2k. Uses up more resources so I only get a little over 100fps
visual egret
i would help write that, but im bad at code
waxen panther
money 😷 🤚 steaks? 
limber knotBOT
visual egret
with its API
prime pawn
I always welcome advice x)
Uh, when I did some minor development for a crazy ass infection greek minigame I kinda made my own world management framework 🤐 thanks anyway though
visual egret
lol
left swift
Knew it was some convuluded dialogue in order to get someone into doing work for you lol
prime pawn
I'm not using any of my assets rn anyway just thought it wouldn't hurt to ask ¯_(ツ)_/¯
And hey, if you use the idea for yourself and actually make something out of it, great!
left swift
Glass 👎
prime pawn
Minecraft servers these days suck 🍑 with all this seasons garbage. Hecc, in my design I even made it possible to sustain its self through cosmetics if it had the players
Uhh yeah, the glass doesn't look as good as it could with Sildur's because I use another tp's sky texutres
Wish it had better support for custom skies
visual egret
i use Sildurs Extreme VL for normal 1.16.4 gameplay
prime pawn
Same here
visual egret
then i use Sildurs Extreme VL with one of technoblades old PvP texture packs for pvp
prime pawn
Except I find it is better with VL turned off ironically. Otherwise you'll be seeing god instead of lighting XD
worn ember
ree still annoyed java has no extension methods
prime pawn
In 4k I get about 120 or so fps, 2k gets me over my refresh rate (144hz). I use a x64 faithful texture pack I think it's inspired by faithful or something idk, idc either still looks nice XD
As for the sky, it's from a realistic texture pack thing idk the name is long af
minor badge
?warn @prime pawn This is not a marketplace
leaden oxideBOT
HotProtato#5694 has been warned. || This is not a marketplace
twin lagoon
?warn @minor badge awa
minor badge
awa
prime pawn
If I thought it were a marketplace I'd make some massive arse paragraph or 5 😂
twin lagoon
looks like shit
waxen panther
looks like shit
visual egret
okay calm down
twin lagoon
13 year olds wet dream
waxen panther
visibly cringing rn
visual egret
i never really understood the appeal of dream
minor badge
why do you have xp in duels
waxen panther
proxi !!
visual egret
no idea
minor badge
you're stupid
visual egret
but the IP is the biggest mc server
prime pawn
Idk if it's because of the monitor I am using but I tried BSL, Chocapic, Continuum (free), Molly (paid), projectLUMA, SEUS, Ymir and Sildur's and I found Sildur's to be the most pleasing
waxen panther
you're stupid
love u 2 bro
prime pawn
Most of the time idc if it's realistic or what, if Minecraft were meant to be realistic it wouldn't have blocks everywhere xD
ashen cliff
How 1.8 should look: https://posili.me/i/2021-01-08_15-40-41.png
visual egret
How 1.8 should look: https://posili.me/i/2021-01-08_15-40-41.png
with the "no" button being selected
mossy vessel
Are you sure? "Yes" "Yes"
ashen cliff
YES.
waxen panther
with the "no" button being selected
haha so funny and quirky lol ! XD
left swift
Brocc so angry today
visual egret
<@!250881407759548416> which monitor do you use?
i got this monitor when i was interested in more gaming stuff than graphics, if i could go back in time id probably order an IPS monitor
left swift
just watch some pokimane
visual egret
How 1.8 should look: https://posili.me/i/2021-01-08_15-40-41.png
actually yeah 1.8.8 is worse than 1.8.9
prime pawn
Yeah, fair enough. The difference is crazy, I currently use the 27ng950-b
waxen panther
I'd rather stare at my desktop than watch pokimane
left swift
I was actually watching moonmoon play that rust server yesterday was great content
slim nymph
actually yeah 1.8.8 is worse than 1.8.9
not for server
prime pawn
It can overclock to over 160hz from 144hz but I'm not sure what drawbacks there would be. The only thing I could see is it saying "If the screen gets all glitchy (something like that) then disable overclocking"
slim nymph
there is no 1.8.9 server lol
ashen cliff
Yet.
worn ember
Aikar, why did you have to make subcommands be split with | !!! now i gotta escape them to not fuk up my md file generation smh smh big dissapointment
ashen cliff
Just escape all chars.
waxen panther
just use cloud 4weird
prime pawn
Any idea why Optifine unloads chunks that are within the render distance of 64? It's annoying af when trying to take screenies XD
worn ember
maybe the internal server limits to 32? idk
prime pawn
Oh, so the serve forces the chunks to load which in turn causes the client to unrender them?
worn ember
well cant show chunks which arent loaded by the server
vernal moth
well, you could
worn ember
the server determines the view distance
vernal moth
and no tick view distance in paper.yml
prime pawn
In 1.8.9, would that be cache-chunk-maps?
waxen panther
vernal moth
1.8 doesnt have such sophisticated features
visual egret
not for server
yeah obviously
left swift
Pinged 
slim nymph
In 1.8.9, would that be cache-chunk-maps?
no, you cant get around the 32 limit w/o modifying the client to ignore unload packets, and good luck w/ that
that setting is not related
vernal moth
he has a modified client, optifine
slim nymph
but does optifine do that?
vernal moth
who knows
prime pawn
Changing server.properties view-distance seemed to do some kind of difference, but after a set duration it just loads them all again lol
vernal moth
closed source crap ware 😄
minor badge
i know optifine keeps a cache of chunk nearby at least
idk where that starts going wrong though
prime pawn
Eh I might just make a lil something to force them all to stay unloaded until I manually load them
Well, with optifine they stay unloaded while moving but when standing still for a certain duration or longer, they just load all at once except for the closer chunks, even with dynamic updates off -_- scammm
Was still able to capture a pretty sceenie tho :3
I am just testing Sildur's settings on a larger scale
That's VL off (otherwise it looks awful) with godrays on low
visual egret
@prime pawn have you tried using replaymod? its really good for cinematic stuff
prime pawn
Nope, I really outta try it though tbh lol
visual egret
at first its really confusing, make sure to watch the tutorial before using it
ashen cliff
🤔 Never unloaded chunks for me, well till you don't reload the renderer.
prime pawn
godrays on default
Takes ages because whenever I even open my menu it unloads, gotta fly around with 10fps everywhere all over again XD
visual egret
whats the new plugin to do chunk loading?
left swift
Who built that
visual egret
i forgot the name of the plugin for pre generating chunks
left swift
Worldborder
ashen cliff
Daily reminder: https://posili.me/i/2021-01-08_16-07-39.png
visual egret
Worldborder
isnt that depricated?
prime pawn
Oh, the castle in the middle was apart of a map I commissioned, the walls were done by one of my builders, the terrain was done by someone else i commissioned as well as my builder and the trees without leaves were apart of the castle build's terrain
vernal moth
chunky
prime pawn
It's meant to be the greek underworld XD
ashen cliff
I'm still amazed at how good MC looked at 16k.
prime pawn
I literally can't tell a difference between 2k and 4k so ¯_(ツ)_/¯
vernal moth
get a better screen, lol
left swift
isnt that depricated?
There is an updated fork
ashen cliff
Don't worry, Discord won't load it, since it's too big.
left swift
Yeah it's not loading lmao
prime pawn
Even 4k x2/x4 screenies won't load in discord either .-.
ashen cliff
No AA needed.
left swift
@visual egret https://github.com/Puremin0rez/WorldBorder
prime pawn
zoom in he says
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even Pure uses Chunky :p
ashen cliff
Does the RTX 3000 still have the display output power issue?
left swift
Oh they made a new one
prime pawn
Not sure, was never aware of one but I never really monitored my power usage
prime pawn
I prolly should have though, since I am using the ftw3 ultra which chews through power :S
ashen cliff
The old cards just nuked idle power usage on multi monitor setups.
Like going from 10-15W idle, up to 50W.
ashen cliff
Well, that 50W was counted to your board power limit.
left swift
Need a trim command oof
visual egret
oh yeah thats missing
prime pawn
So @ashen cliff what do you do to get 16k? Just put 4 8k's in 2x2?
ashen cliff
Single 16k monitor.
prime pawn
Damn, didn't even know they existed
peak ginkgo
Sitting on an airplane, I didn't forget about you guys today xoxo
ashen cliff
They don't.
peak ginkgo
Single 16k monitor.
Weird flex
left swift
Could probably just use the worldborder fork to trim
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hi dejay 
prime pawn
To set up 16x with 4x8k monitors that would literally be 2x the cost of my setup 😱
prime pawn
I wonder what resolution irl is 😎
ashen cliff
In my case, it was a multi panel display with a custom controller we were testing. Just to get 16k running, I had to put the refresh rate to like 4Hz.
prime pawn
XD yikess
prime pawn
Tbh though it'd be cool if there were modular monitors. Like what if you could have it 4k 144hz for games where you just want 60-120fps to enjoy the view, around a 200hz refresh rate for 2k for competitive fps gaming 🤩
ashen cliff
Just buy the 600Hz projector.
prime pawn
the projected prices of projectors really suck though
left swift
Projectively
prime pawn
Lmaoo itemframes with a x64 texture pack. Love it
potent fossil
hi michale i see u have been ignoring me @twin lagoon
left swift
How rude
twin lagoon
hgi
waxen panther
sadge
potent fossil
visual egret
im starting a small smp, i go with CoreProtect, right?
potent fossil
no
wraith trail
prism
potent fossil
jesus fuck
visual egret
or is there something better
twin lagoon
prism]
potent fossil
prism
potent fossil
im just angery because michale hates me
twin lagoon
😔
left swift
Did you do your stretches this morning simp
potent fossil
no
left swift
potent fossil
what stretches
left swift
Brain stretches
woven otter
no mana
left swift
Duck
woven otter
rename yourself to oomsendhelp
left swift
Rename yourself to turducken
left swift
Yes
woven otter
nasty
left swift
formal turret
turkey duck chicken
worn ember
what do you get if you turn poop around?
left swift
Messy hands
visual egret
any free anti cheat reccomendations?
left swift
Nocheatplus
ashen cliff
Matrix maybe.
left swift
Matrix is sketch
ashen cliff
As it should be.
worn ember
why is the FQN used in the jvm checker in the logs
left swift
I'll send my invoice to you after Oskar
worn ember
anti anti-cheat
left swift
Sporks
sand epoch
rip
worn ember
is there much difference in getting 2x16 rather than 4x8gb ram? Throughput i assume?
visual egret
anyway, whats an actually good anticheat
i only need something that reports errors into a file or database
i mean suspicious stuff
golden gust
not too sure if there is actually any gains on 2 x 4, I think that the biggest thing is the dual channel aspect, not too sure if there is ways to address the other ram in a useful manner to boost performance there
prime pawn
Supposedly makes no difference unless you want like more rgb or whatever, I wouldn't know, don't ask me
Yeah, apparently either way dual channel is used though
ashen cliff
Depends on the board.
Dual channel single sided is slower than dual channel dual sided.
But good luck finding performance gains outside of benchmarks and latency intensive stuff.
worn ember
fair enough
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ironic
ashen cliff
Mute them locally.
zealous wedge
did krusic stutter
clever widget
but then i cant hear thet teacher
ashen cliff
I fail to see the issue here.
left swift
Speak up and tell them
clever widget
the teacher is trying to shut up the dog
ashen cliff
Would RTX voice filter the dog out?
clever widget
i dont have a rtx gpu
clever widget
only gtx 1660 ti
ashen cliff
That's enough to run it in fallback mode.
left swift
Maybe it if was in the background enough
clever widget
ive never used rtx voice what is it
left swift
A disease
lyric patio
anyway, whats an actually good anticheat
nocheat+ is a pretty good ac if you spend time configuring/tuning it
idk if someone already answered
visual egret
they did, but the most recent version of ncp i see is for 1.12
lyric patio
ncp's official support has ended but community members have rewritten it
./updated* it
worn ember
@vernal moth 
visual egret
do you know any project which updates it?
golden gust
only 742?
visual egret
thx
worn ember
we're a smoll country cat
ashen cliff
What's the max possible distance you can be from a beer brewery?
worn ember
well idk lol
magic river
Looks like maybe 100km
sand epoch
given a list of beer breweries and a list of points which describe a polygon, what algorithm would you use to determine the maximum possible distance you can be from a beer brewery
left swift
Not enough breweries
void void
Does anyone know what happens when your bed gets destroyed in bedwars while you are preparing for a respawn?
left swift
U dont respawn?
wraith trail
if you are in the timer you do
if you get killed once respawn item is gone, you dont
But whether you will respawn or not is decided at time of death
worn ember
given a list of beer breweries and a list of points which describe a polygon, wh...
so you're that guy from the math questions
void void
But whether you will respawn or not is decided at time of death
ok thanks
sand epoch
real world problem 😎
magic river
given a list of beer breweries and a list of points which describe a polygon, wh...
voronoi I think
void void
i would have probably assumed i was dead when my bed was destroyed while i was respawning
ashen cliff
If you give me the polygon list, I might be able to do it in SQL.
worn ember
So there is 1 pandemic, there is enough toilet paper in stock for the foreseeable future, what do you do?
ashen cliff
Nothing?
magic river
In geometry, Voronoi diagrams can be used to find the largest empty circle amid a set of points, and in an enclosing polygon; e.g. to build a new supermarket as far as possible from all the existing ones, lying in a certain city.
sand epoch
incorrect
sand epoch
yeah voronoi looks legit
visual egret
i just got "serious concern" in attitude to learning in geography... wtf
but everything else in geography is above track
🤔
unkempt drift
Is that a grade or smth?
magic river
sand epoch
maybe bring more highlighters next time
worn ember
i just got "serious concern" in attitude to learning in geography... wtf
dont worry, i got a "serious concern" about my mental health, and look at me
visual egret
lol
but i find it really weird
also i got a decent grade in math, so im safe
im the worst at math lol
the only thing i can think that im worse at than math is art
but art is meh
limpid comet
alright
i have shilled the next generation on programming
my old teacher asked me to do an interview for his grade 9 tech class
untold copper
so is that worldborder texture lmaO
iron zephyr
Alright, not to be back with the same question, but how much faster is Velocity really then Waterfall? There are so many more Waterfall/Bungee plugins haha, it is so tempting to stop beating my head against MySQL and switch to Waterfall 😄 Appreciate any thoughts anyone has
ashen cliff
Depends™️.
limpid comet
from what i know, velocity can run on less ram and have more concurrent connections
worn ember
u gotta be doing some nuts stuff to notice a difference
iron zephyr
We're running a bunch of tiny minigame servers (one server per minigame), a survival server that is wayy too bloated, and a creative server no one uses
worn ember
do you spin them up dynamically?
iron zephyr
I was planning to have them running concurrently
left swift
Have they implemented the height changes in a snapshot yet? Anyone remember
worn ember
pretty sure they havent, but they've abstracted the hight system quite a bit
iron zephyr
Do you use a proxy Ded?
left swift
Hm
olive marlin
Have they implemented the height changes in a snapshot yet? Anyone remember
They removed max-build-height from server settings and you can set min_y and height per dimension with datapacks.
iron zephyr
Ah, sorry haha
limber knotBOT
I run meme serbur
quasi valley
I read that as "do you use a proxy, dad" 
limber knotBOT
best serbur
worn ember
i can be your dad kenny, you just gotta ask
mossy vessel
That'd be gross.
worn ember
excuse me
left swift
U run memes robo
limber knotBOT
yes
left swift
U are a meme
ashen cliff
Memes also work on his repos.
limpid comet
very relatable
left swift
U misspelled stop
limber knotBOT
I need more memes
left swift
I was gonna say something mean but ur too nice to be mean to robo
potent fossil
@zealous wedge can i ask u stoopid java question ok thx, remember the other day when you had to tell me about pass by reference 
its a similar confusion. but i guess the same thing. do you by chance use caffeine/guava caches? if i get something from the cache and modify it, then i dont have to put it back in the cache right? cuz...pass by ref i feel so stupid please coddle me
zealous wedge
correct yeah
the exception would be immutable objects, where methods exist that return a new object with just one thing changed
potent fossil
so for example, this is my "modify" method:
public void modify(UUID uniqueId, Function<PlayerData, PlayerData> mutator) {
loadSafe(uniqueId)
.async(mutator::apply)
.asyncLast(mutated -> playerDataCache.put(uniqueId, mutated))
.execute();
}
don't need to do that last step, just apply mutator and it should be fine?
zealous wedge
depends on what PlayerData is
potent fossil
just a data class essentially
zealous wedge
if you do drop the putting back, you'd want to change the Function to a Consumer
golden gust
if you have an object in a map of any sort, if you mutate that object, then it's gonna be mutated
potent fossil
yeah that's my situation, more or less. Caffeine really is just a map in the end
and I suppose that was my question, if I could just use Consumer and not have to reinsert
which sounds like i can so
yay
golden gust
one day, simple is gonna learn java, and we're all gonna be so proud of him
potent fossil
:(
golden gust
❤️
potent fossil
wait mfw then i dont even need a modify method
if thats the case
i can just load it where i need it and just call the setters
this is beautiful
left swift
meager tusk
so for example, this is my "modify" method:
```java
public void modify(UUID ...
what is this lol
potent fossil
adventures of an idiot
meager tusk
yea that's so overkill
potent fossil
well i didn't fully understand pass by reference 
meager tusk
java is pass by value
potent fossil
plz dont fuk me with
wide chasm
Pass-by-sharing for Java is easier to grasp imo
But the terminology is rarely used anymore
true canyon
Pass-by-gentle-toss
golden gust
sharing doesn't make sense unless your intent is to ignore the behavior and primatives
untold copper
imagine sharing stuff with other ppl
golden gust
pass-by-yeeting
cosmic raft
golden gust
All in favour of petitioning GC > GY, garbage yeeting
slim nymph
the first thing to do when you notice lag
well the idea of timings was you should have left it on, and then the first thing you do is /timings report to see what it was
leaving it off boned you there
as your lag started to end once you turned it on so now you have no insight on what it was
wide chasm
If you're coming from C languages, pass-by-value sounds as if every time you pass an argument you'll be getting a copy of the argument, which is not the case in Java.
untold copper
yeah it does that
wide chasm
But pass-by-sharing doesn't quite work well for primitives
visual egret
any advice you can give me here: https://timings.aikar.co/?id=253823aacca440a5955b7cd132d5010f
i still have to do the spigot blog optimisations, anything else i should be aware of
wide chasm
Sorry, C++ only
visual egret
at least im not on a pi
golden gust
The thing with java is that you're passing the actual value, always
true canyon
Should operations be slower now that any pass-by-thing has to be done at six feet? That's an additional 6 nanoseconds per.
golden gust
be that the reference to the object, or the actual value of a primative
calling it sharing is just gross as that behaviour is only really describable to objects specifically
slim nymph
potent fossil
:o
wide chasm
It's not more correct, but it's easier to grasp for objects imo. Pass-by-value where value is a reference to an object is quite daunting, whereas pass-by-sharing specifies the behaviour you see with object passing in Java in an easier way.
unreal quarry
daunting? wth
austere ivy
Java is pass by reference, right?
unreal quarry
its pass by value
austere ivy
Even for primitives?
unreal quarry
yes
wide chasm
Yes, daunting
spare venture
well, maybe if phantoms didn't spawn in huge packs right above you
if it were just a normal spawning mob
unreal quarry
the pack size depends on how many night you havent slept
its if like night 3 you only get 1, maybe 2
if you havent slept in weeks... yeah...
spare venture
yeah players r dum
golden gust
Just reading that
I could picture just looking over at a castle made out of monster cans, and then looking out the window
unreal quarry
lmao
fallen oracle
Almost 12 hours since the last PR is merged. Slowly starting to twitch a little.
unreal quarry
golden gust
I'm about a few "fuck it"s from going to bed
mossy vessel
Merging a PR is really satisfying.
limber knotBOT
not as satisfying as smiting someone for a bad bug report
mossy vessel
I've over a dozen of renovate prs for gradle 6.8 lmao
magic river
Calling Java pass-by-value confuses people though because it makes it sound like passing an Object would make a copy
fallen oracle
Gradle 6.8 is today?
fallen oracle
Anything big for 6.8?
magic river
I wonder if they'll ever ditch groovy
limber knotBOT
performance improvements mostly
they've made recompiling kotlin buildscripts faster
mossy vessel
I wonder if they'll ever ditch groovy
Android devs don't like that trick.
limber knotBOT
they also fixed some performance issues with the toolchains feature
fallen oracle
Now is not the time forj okes
worn ember
ah yes, good ol' android cluster fuck
unborn summit
wait
golden gust
I actually found a trick to speed up recompiles of maven projects massively, has some issues though
but, if you disable the incremental compiler...
fallen oracle
Oh so they released it 15 minutes ago, they just need to release it on the website?
worn ember
but, if you disable the incremental compiler...
people actually use that?
golden gust
it's enabled by default
worn ember
limber knotBOT
they have release notes up https://docs.gradle.org/6.8/release-notes.html
visual egret
how to kill a laptop:
worn ember
putting maven in offline mode helps too 
limber knotBOT
5k is small
ashen cliff
If only Maven had smarter downloading.
limber knotBOT
10k is getting somewhere
worn ember
yeah that'd be great
ashen cliff
How much 404 spam do the repos get?
worn ember
thats my biggest issue with it tbh
visual egret
yeah, im doing it in small bits, first rendering the world, then the bluemap
golden gust
visual egret
it seems to get slower the longer the render runs
limber knotBOT
bluemap takes longer to render than the chunkgen stuff lol
dynmap tho, is pretty fast iirc
ashen cliff
Just 2D?
ashen cliff
Small numbers brother.
Well, you are comparing 2D, Caves and locked 3D to "full" 3D.
limber knotBOT
but biggest issue with bluemap is that it lags the client to pieces especially if you got a ton of transparent blocks
yes I know
magic river
Oh so maven's incremental tracking is broken so you turn it off and just remember to manually run mvn clean when you make an ABI change?
limber knotBOT
or just use gradle which has non-broken incremental tracking
golden gust
I don't do that
visual egret
in my experience dynmap takes longer to render than bluemap
golden gust
It's just comical how broken it is
magic river
Yeah, seems like it'd be easier to use gradle 😄
limber knotBOT
git plugin, woo
dim shadow
guys do u know where i can get a hold of a beta 1.8.8 client?
limber knotBOT
git version plugin
vague violet
hello does anyone know a fix fix for lag when crossing certain chunks
limber knotBOT
in the MC launcher?
dim shadow
beta 1.8.8
dim shadow
oldest in launcher is 1.0
limber knotBOT
it's in the MC launcher...
golden gust
Which is in the launcher if you enable beta builds
ashen cliff
dim shadow
wait wut
ashen cliff
🤔
limber knotBOT
another satisfied dumcordian
dim shadow
i just found a archeological copy of my server im trynna play it lol
on a 80gb ide drive
limber knotBOT
u think that's ancient?
dim shadow
almost a decade old
limber knotBOT
I got beta 1.2
dim shadow
dam lol u beat me earliest i ever did was 1.5
limber knotBOT
mine's a decade old by this point
left swift
ur a beta 1.2 robo
fallen oracle
6.7.1: 6s
6.8: 5s
We have an improvement in compile time!
limber knotBOT
just /apply to my serbur already nomana
ashen cliff
Imagine not having a rd-132211 world.
left swift
is ur server beta 1.2
ashen cliff
Good old days: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRjTyRly5WA
dim shadow
i liked it that way except when notepad++ would crash trynna open a gigabytes long log
composed of 95% long errors
ashen cliff
Just log directly to Github.
limber knotBOT
build it and I'll use it
ashen cliff
You know I would just make a shell script.
limber knotBOT
right now the best I can do is either dumcordsrv it to a channel or paste it to a pastebin
well, IRC too, if I wanted to spam this network
void void
Hi, does anyone know if minecraft 1.7 works on java 11?
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.try
