general

[mental meadow]

every update breaks stuff you gotta fix yourself

[limpid comet]

i want something for docker and my brain is too small to set up harbour

[mental meadow]

the musicbot is epic tho

it just plays Africa by Toto 24/7

[mossy vessel]

Why not using reposility/sonatype oss

[waxen panther]

docker is the sin of mankind

[limpid comet]

reposilite only 4 maven

[mental meadow]

I've switched to sonatype oss now

And it's so much better

[limpid comet]

yea i use it on my server's dedi

[twin lagoon]

awawawawawa

[mossy vessel]

sonatype is simple, some people might dislike the UI

[waxen panther]

reposilite is enough for me

im also running with like 32mb so thats nice

[untold copper]

i like fortnite

[waxen panther]

unsurprising

[limpid comet]

thanks for ur very helpful and insightful commentary on fortnite

[untold copper]

uwu

its fun with friends

[waxen panther]

anything is

[worn ember]

no

ur not

[waxen panther]

if you have fun friends at least

ded go away

[untold copper]

^

[worn ember]

nein

[waxen panther]

go work on your weird addon site

[worn ember]

cba to

[mental meadow]

how would you know ded

[untold copper]

llol

[austere ivy]

factorio

[worn ember]

but when i insult you i get a warn, not fair

[untold copper]

owo

owowowowo

me wanna play factorio

[waxen panther]

[austere ivy]

factorio is based and anyone who plays it is also based as wel

Stardew valley too

[untold copper]

based?

[twin lagoon]

@waxen panther

when are you creating :broccoPlead:

[austere ivy]

michael 🥺

[mental meadow]

[twin lagoon]

who are you

[austere ivy]

:(

[mental meadow]

i wanna have emotes too

i only have and

[twin lagoon]

aurora

we need djungelskog

[waxen panther]

i have the emote man themself on the job

i asked for a broccoHug too

[mental meadow]

yes!!

[austere ivy]

wait wait can I get one too

[mental meadow]

make a auroraHug

[waxen panther]

[twin lagoon]

[austere ivy]

pls brianHug gosh darn it

[cunning raft]

discord has commands now

you can register commands into it

[limpid comet]

oh so they don't have to appear in chat?

[cunning raft]

yeah

[limpid comet]

ded rtp

thats cool

i guess the commands api does serve some purpose

[worthy geode]

but is the command feedback visible to only you or everyone?

[cunning raft]

you can also send "ephemeral messages" that only appear to a single user

[limpid comet]

ha

[cunning raft]

yeah that's what ephemeral messages are

[limpid comet]

thats really cool

[worthy geode]

thats nice

time to update my bot D:

[waxen panther]

so hot

[limpid comet]

ur so hot

[cunning raft]

however, ephemeral messages can only be sent in response to commands and not on their own

[limpid comet]

that makes sense tbh

[waxen panther]

oh god

a jailbreaker

someone ban him quick

[worthy geode]

mmh, so some messages still need to be send via private message, meh

[waxen panther]

jailbreak community is

you're not even in any of the servers smh

idk man

with that kinda name

[cunning raft]

probably will handle replies that way

dms disabled = unable to send reply

[visual egret]

smh

[waxen panther]

hhahahahhahaha

[limpid comet]

omg aber is here

[waxen panther]

i just looked up your message history in r/jailbreak

i cant post it here but

[limpid comet]

u can post it in ur server

[waxen panther]

Yes

[cunning raft]

post it in the server broc

[waxen panther]

ok

[limpid comet]

cmon broc

we're all waiting

[waxen panther]

have

[visual egret]

smh cant see it

[waxen panther]

you know what you said

[cunning raft]

@void void how old are you

just curious

[visual egret]

brocc hates minors

[cunning raft]

[waxen panther]

discord admins !

[spiral robin]

[waxen panther]

we got a new one !

[cunning raft]

[twin lagoon]

[limpid comet]

mods mods mods mods

2 late

npoe

[worn ember]

[spiral robin]

[cunning raft]

too late

[twin lagoon]

@mental meadow

[limpid comet]

https://i.ksc.sh/api/Kupu4J4CEka all the evidence we need

[cunning raft]

already texted mr.discord

[limpid comet]

yes

[spiral robin]

yes

[limpid comet]

fake pepe emote

ban

[cunning raft]

joy emoticon

[waxen panther]

banned from r/jb

no you were saying the n word lmao

[cunning raft]

the cancer of the jb community

[spiral robin]

@waxen panther you're a mod on the jailbreak sub?

[waxen panther]

I am friends with all the admins

no

god no

im mod in a few of the sub communities but not the reddit discord

[spiral robin]

ok

[limpid comet]

you would be wouldnt you

[spiral robin]

What a cute little mod

Doing ur little job

Awww

[waxen panther]

🚓 🚔

[spiral robin]

checkra1n for iOS 15 when

[waxen panther]

when ios 15 is out 🎻

i stopped jailbreaking years ago anyway

[limpid comet]

i thought iphones were supposed to be secure

[waxen panther]

i just and watch the drama now

nothing is perfect

[limpid comet]

ya but isn't apple's whole selling point is "nobody hack ur phon xDDD"

ive seen videos of people unlocking locked phones with checkrain

[limber knot]

I hav better rtp plugin

[limpid comet]

no i do

[waxen panther]

they're fake bluely

[limpid comet]

oh

[waxen panther]

the best you can do is get to camera roll

[limpid comet]

ok fair enough

[waxen panther]

there are exploits for full unlocking but they're not public

[spiral robin]

At my old job at an apple aasp we had a tool to remove passcodes from them

[limpid comet]

i understood .5 of those words

[limber knot]

what's more interesting is Windows on ARM on phones

[limpid comet]

wtf

[limber knot]

iPhone is borin

[limpid comet]

like

full windows

not windows phone

[limber knot]

yes

full windows

[limpid comet]

tfw

[worthy geode]

useless, but fun, mostly

[limber knot]

on a windows phone

[limpid comet]

i would rather the controller with a rpi in it with the little minecraft screen

[waxen panther]

procursus is literally the only cool thing in jailbreaks nowadays

[limber knot]

idk if they've gotten continuum goin on it

but if yes, then you can dock and use big screen

[waxen panther]

meh

[worn ember]

ew its robo

[waxen panther]

iphone x is dated now

it's not worth it

[worthy geode]

docking and having windows was something I hoped the windows phones would do. Never really happened sadly

[cunning raft]

checkra1n was a cool asf exploit

[limber knot]

it did

[waxen panther]

checkra1n has like 3 super smart amazing people and the rest of the team are pepegas

[cunning raft]

yeah yeah

whatever

[worn ember]

sounds like paper

[limber knot]

all UWP apps can run in continuum unless the dev disabled it

[worn ember]

man uwp big shite tho

[limber knot]

see, den u got ppl like dat

[twin lagoon]

.g luca tabasco

[waxen panther]

"god"

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://www.reddit.com/r/JelBrek/comments/jqhgnx/all_hail_luca_tabasco/

[waxen panther]

he is very smart

hahahah

[twin lagoon]

nice

[limber knot]

instead of new api, omg must have my trash java apks simply cuz they exist already

[waxen panther]

qwertyoruiopz is a better name to google

[cunning raft]

pwn20, qwerty, axi0, and sig are the only good jb devs

maybe sam too

[waxen panther]

pwn20

[cunning raft]

broc are you a coolstar simp

[waxen panther]

pwn20 is a great marketer

no I hate both of them

[cunning raft]

what is so wrong with pwn then

[waxen panther]

He hasn't contributed a lot of code persay

He's more of a project manager

pongoOS is the best thing to come out of checkra1n

[limpid comet]

wow r/jelbrek is awful

[waxen panther]

it's supposed to be

it's like okbr

[cunning raft]

well pwn doesn't do much checkra1n shit

[twin lagoon]

I am not familiar with okbr

[cunning raft]

unc0ver tho

[waxen panther]

no he doesn't

[twin lagoon]

Please send me the subreddit link brocc

In this chat

[waxen panther]

unc0ver is a pretty

er yes sorry michael i am legally contracted not to

[twin lagoon]

[cunning raft]

unc0ver is one of the best jb tools tf u on about

[waxen panther]

it was ok before it went closed source and a giant ad

[cunning raft]

what's it an ad for

[waxen panther]

have you even used it?

[cunning raft]

yes

[spiral robin]

Beats by dr dre

[cunning raft]

before checkra1n

[waxen panther]

there's a unskippable phone case ad whenever you jailbreak lol

[cunning raft]

OH RIGHT

everything apple pro got a hold of them

[waxen panther]

Yeppp

they should use procursus too

[cunning raft]

douchtuber

[waxen panther]

everything is better with procursus

[cunning raft]

but as long as its a stable jb i couldn't care less

wouldn't touch anything coolstar makes with a mile long yard stick

[waxen panther]

unc0ver is stable but has a much bigger overhead in my experience

i ran a modified chimera

whole thing is kinda pointless nowadays anyway

[golden gust]

I'm glad that these days I don't really do stuff which would require jailbreaking my phone

[waxen panther]

coolstar is much better in private, him on twitter is a plague lol

[cunning raft]

he's a weeb

[waxen panther]

him being a weeb isnt the worst part

him playing OW is

[cunning raft]

i just use android

[golden gust]

I'm currently on android but keep debating somewhat of going to grab an iPhone, but, then I think about all the crappy apps and games I have on my phone which I'd have to replace or something...

[cunning raft]

he's a dva main so sure

[waxen panther]

i have jvm on my ipad

@void void do you do anything other than hail luca

its like you snapped one day

Yeah i can tell

PogO ?

[warm anchor]

Join the iPhone gang. PaparMC need more iOS user

[visual egret]

rendering a 1080p video pog

not really

it says 9 hours remaining

[limpid comet]

u went to mars?

also what fuckin cpu are you using here

[mossy vessel]

People still watch videos in 1080p?

[waxen panther]

eternity is so cute 🥺

[warm anchor]

Oskar you gonna get a fetal error at 5 minute reminding

This is not a curse

[mossy vessel]

TIL

[warm anchor]

🥺

[golden gust]

g e t a r o o m

[waxen panther]

No

[golden gust]

plz

[waxen panther]

can’t

[golden gust]

Just remember that the flashing light on the camera means that it's off

creates a blackmail folder

[waxen panther]

no no!

[warm anchor]

Let’s go in cats room 😉

[waxen panther]

send it my way i'll put on my OF x

[golden gust]

I'm just cleaning my glasses under my blanket while I watch

[mossy vessel]

You'd lose subs immediately.

runs

[warm anchor]

TIL Nmf subbed to brocooli on OF

[limber knot]

OF = optifine rite

[mossy vessel]

Better sub to my OF 😌

[visual egret]

what

[golden gust]

god

everybody with OFs

imma be walking funny for a month

[spiral robin]

Lnao

[mossy vessel]

smh

[alpine pier]

Hey Hey.. im currently creating a Survival Server.. What claim plugin should i use? RedProtect, GriefPrevention or Lands?

[mossy vessel]

No need to post that in all servers you are in.

[limpid comet]

use whatever works for you

[warm anchor]

Lands.

[limpid comet]

somehow i managed to write something that worked first try

[limber knot]

woah

[limpid comet]

and it wasn't a hello world

[limber knot]

he pasted that in multiple places

GP all the way btw

GP so good Lands has it in its description

[cosmic raft]

https://tenor.com/view/kitty-kitten-cat-bed-sleep-gif-5468779

[limpid comet]

awwww

thanks 4 the cat kash

[cosmic raft]

that is me waking up

[warm anchor]

That’s cute

[true canyon]

😺

[twin lagoon]

kashike

[mighty storm]

Is it me or is curl -JLO not working? I run curl -JLO url and it's still doing the url path not the actual file name. pretty sure it worked before

[potent fossil]

isnt it lowercase o

[mighty storm]

it's -o if you want to specify output name

I just want to use the content dispotion name

With wget --content-disposition flag it works fine

[cosmic raft]

paste the full command you are using

[mighty storm]

one sec

[void void]

aw man

cweepew

[limpid comet]

that was funny and epic

[short yarrow]

So if I'm running a private server for friends. Someone finds out the IP and decides to DDOS the server. Can I whitelist everyone's IP and drop every packet coming from other IPs?

[limpid comet]

chew it's been 4 moniutes

[mighty storm]

Just a quick example with the old api:
curl https://papermc.io/api/v1/paper/1.16.4/346/download -JLO => outputs to "download"
curl -JLO https://papermc.io/api/v1/paper/1.16.4/346/download => outputs to "download"

[unkempt drift]

Was waiting for some like 400 line curl cmd or something... 😆

[limpid comet]

lol

[true canyon]

How about a newer command like `curl -BILLIEEILISH

[waxen panther]

no

[restive thicket]

curl and wget have never picked up Paper’s file names for me.

Same with CurseForge mod downloads.

[mighty storm]

I'm pretty curl used to work, with wget if I do wget --content-disposition it works fine

[restive thicket]

Oh, interesting.

[mighty storm]

Saving to: ‘paper-1.16.4-346.jar’

Unless curl updated and broke it

[unkempt drift]

Using v1 api...

[mighty storm]

just needed a quick example, the actual command i was running is :x

same issue tho

url i was using*

[unkempt drift]

What is JLO supposed to do?

[golden gust]

https://tenor.com/9uvt.gif

[unkempt drift]

Yeah, that’s what I got when I searched “curl JLO”

[mighty storm]

(HTTP) This option tells the -O, --remote-name option to use the server-specified Content-Disposition filename instead of extracting a filename from the URL.```
```-L, --location

(HTTP) If the server reports that the requested page has moved to a different location (indicated with a Location: header and a 3XX response code), this option will make curl redo the request on the new place.```
```-O, --remote-name

Write output to a local file named like the remote file we get. (Only the file part of the remote file is used, the path is cut off.)```

https://curl.se/docs/manpage.html#-J
https://curl.se/docs/manpage.html#-L
https://curl.se/docs/manpage.html#-O

[minor badge]

(Only the file part of the remote file is used, the path is cut off.)

drop -O

[mighty storm]

did...you read -J? "This option tells the -O, --remote-name option to use the server-specified Content-Disposition filename instead of extracting a filename from the URL."

and without -O it fails

[minor badge]

mh thinking is not my strongsuit

[mighty storm]

:p

curl is being a butt ig

[minor badge]

and before you mention it, shush cat

[unkempt drift]

Update curl? Idk maybe out of date

[mighty storm]

curl 7.64.1 (x86_64-apple-darwin20.0) libcurl/7.64.1 (SecureTransport) LibreSSL/2.8.3 zlib/1.2.11 nghttp2/1.41.0
Release-Date: 2019-03-27
maybe

[unkempt drift]

I was looking at the mit man page for curl and I didn’t see J as an option

[minor badge]

it could just be that it doesn't know how to parse filename*=UTF-8''paper-1.16.4-346.jar

[upper flicker]

unless curl cant handle the utf-8 thing that the v2 app added

that wasnt there originally

[minor badge]

-J is curl 7.73.0

[mighty storm]

im pretty sure v2 api is just the filename so this issue wouldnt happen

[unkempt drift]

Ok, well then chew is out of date

[mighty storm]

wtf

how did it work before

did i downgrade

[twin lagoon]

apple

[minor badge]

shut up dumb michale

[mighty storm]

It's 7.58.0 on ubuntu, def not an apple thing

[twin lagoon]

proxi wtF

[mighty storm]

and I update and upgrade like every other day

[upper flicker]

yeah I wouldnt count on the version to mean much

[waxen panther]

michael 🥺

[upper flicker]

unless youre compiling it from source

[minor badge]

oh no, the manpage is just stupidly formatted

[upper flicker]

ubuntu's is definitely not on that and it supports it

[mighty storm]

Yeah I "upgraded" curl and it's still 7.58.0

Warning: curl 7.74.0 already installed

umm?

[unkempt drift]

That’s not confusing at all...

[mighty storm]

% curl --version
curl 7.64.1 (x86_64-apple-darwin20.0) libcurl/7.64.1 (SecureTransport) LibreSSL/2.8.3 zlib/1.2.11 nghttp2/1.41.0

?????

brew be like

[upper flicker]

brew wont link it globally if there's a compat risk

I cant imagine there is one from curl but w/e

[mighty storm]

Warning: Refusing to link macOS provided/shadowed software: curl

yeah thats fair

[upper flicker]

may need to go find the bottle

[sand epoch]

what kind of sick new features is curl getting

[mighty storm]

Okay I ran some path command and now it's 7.74.0

let's get this another go

nothin

[potent fossil]

running cyberpunk on ultra at 2k res on a 1080, thought it would be much heavier

[mighty storm]

Ohh kay the issue is definitely the UTF-8 thing, when the header is attachment; filename="velocity-1.1.2.jar" it works fine

[upper flicker]

It is allowed per the RFC for content disposition but even it warns that support is "lol"

[waxen panther]

z moment

[upper flicker]

browsers handle it alright

?

the new one is also filename* not just filename

[mighty storm]

what's the * for?

[olive marlin]

Yet another example that v1 is superior /s

[upper flicker]

where specifically curl gets confused, whether it be the inclusion of utf-8 or the different attribute idk

frankly Im not sure why that was changed

but dont get me started

[mighty storm]

yeah cus attachment; filename*=UTF-8''waterfall-1.16-388.jar doesn't work

Issue with curl I guess?

[golden gust]

if that's the spec and curl ain't parsing it, yes

curl refusing to parse stuff is nothing new, really

[topaz geyser]

Anyone watch attack on titan final season? Who is the guy pretending to have amnesia in season 4 is it eren yeager?

[mighty storm]

https://curl.se/docs/knownbugs.html#J_and_O_with_encoded_file_na

guess it's known

[limpid comet]

@void void was it you who was looking at quantum? queue & the exception handling has been implemented

[olive marlin]

Does anyone have mechanical TKL, low-profile keyboard to recommend? Ideally available with brown or similar switches.
All search engines I tried so far return mixed results :/

[worn ember]

@void void wow ditching me like that smh

[worn ember]

why brown tho

[waxen panther]

Brown is cool

I haven't used this keyboard but I used another one of their lineup (K8) and can really vouch for the build quality

https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-k1-wireless-mechanical-keyboard

[olive marlin]

I don't think many keyboards would have Zealios 65g

[waxen panther]

they also dont break the bank ^^

[mossy vessel]

No rgb? Shame.

[waxen panther]

Theres a rgb option lol

[mossy vessel]

Didn't look like the buttons had lights

[waxen panther]

https://youtu.be/swm8REGM4hY

[mossy vessel]

meh

[waxen panther]

I don't think I've ever turned the rgb on mine on

not a huge fan

[mossy vessel]

That is more like background light

I prefer each button having its own light

[unreal quarry]

that keyboard doesnt count. its missing the num pad

[waxen panther]

he wanted TKL smh

[mossy vessel]

Do people actually use the num pad?

[waxen panther]

my k8 has shine through

apparently

[olive marlin]

I almost never use it. I just don't need to type in numbers often enough.

[waxen panther]

I thought i needed numpad until i got a tkl

couldn't imagine having one now

[mossy vessel]

I started finding it helpful when you type in lots of numbers

But I wouldn't prefer it over top numbers

[olive marlin]

It looks good. Shame that shipping is 1/3 of the keyboard price.

[woven otter]

why mechanical arent most mechanical

[waxen panther]

Ah yeah, I think they had a free shipping thing when I got mine

thats a shame

still cheaper than the logitech competitor though probably :p

[olive marlin]

It'd be 76 USD to get it here with shipping. It's not too bad, but still.

[limpid comet]

i like having a numpad cuz i can use em for keybinds

[mossy vessel]

Doesn't your keyboard has extra keys for that?

lol

[limpid comet]

not mine, no

[mossy vessel]

rip

[limpid comet]

k70

maybe it does

i use my laptop kb 90% of the time anyways

i type way faster on it

[waxen panther]

i had my laptop keyboard

my max is like 140 wpm and my fingers hurt all the time

hate my ****

[limpid comet]

sadge

whats your max wpm on ur regular kb

[mossy vessel]

Why would you type fast? Type slower, work slower, take longer, charge more

runs

[limpid comet]

for the sport

[waxen panther]

165 on a good day, but im more consistent in general

haha yeah imagine getting paid for your dev work haha

imagine .. .

[mossy vessel]

Not like I've done that 🥴

[waxen panther]

pfft yaeh

imagine making a open source plugin just so people can join your discord and complain

could not be me .

[limpid comet]

just say "hey brocc can u help me with this"

and get him to do everything 4 u

[waxen panther]

thats what im doing for matt

[limpid comet]

lol

[cosmic raft]

hi

[mossy vessel]

[limpid comet]

hi kashike

[waxen panther]

hello kash man

convince papi to move to adventure with me

[limpid comet]

are they just using bungee

[waxen panther]

idk but it's not Components

did you see my ping in #friends

[void void]

Yo

I am back

[next wind]

sadly, get away furry 🔫

[cosmic raft]

@waxen panther wat

[waxen panther]

papi uses strings and i think it would be much cuter if expansions could return components

[fallen oracle]

We've considered this.

It's being talked about actually afaik.

[limpid comet]

i have ben instructed to reply

[waxen panther]

yes

[limpid comet]

adventure papi

[waxen panther]

i replied to your thing earlier in speed btw glare

i didnt want to ping you just incase

[olive marlin]

I think I'll go with Sharkoon PureWriter. But it looks like it's bought out almost everywhere over xmas...

[mossy vessel]

Doesn't look too bad, actually 👀

[twin lagoon]

ew

[twin lagoon]

ew

[waxen panther]

i am not as good as you x

[olive marlin]

Ideally I'd go for Moonlander MK1 in Dark Matter colour and Kailh Copper switches (no low profile :/ ). But I'm not yet ready to switch to it.

[twin lagoon]

bloodstone

[mossy vessel]

Michael more like typing with 1 finger

[twin lagoon]

nmf

[mossy vessel]

[olive marlin]

Ok, WTF? So I saw everywhere that Sharkoon PureWriter TKL is sold out everywhere. So opened ebay/amazon equivalent for our country on my phone (I'm logged in here) to add the search to notifications - and it found like 8 of those...

On my PC it didn't fine any...

Michael

[forest valve]

Is there a plugin that has mob tiers?
Example:
Basic = The Normal Mob
Veteran = More Health
Advanced = More Health and Damage
Elite = More Health and Damage and Faster
Godly = More Health and Damage and Faster and Has a Special Ability

[mossy vessel]

@twin lagoon

[twin lagoon]

[limpid comet]

you might be able to do that with mythicmobs

not sure if you can though or if that plugin is even good,just the first that comes to mind

[mossy vessel]

Would I have my own server, there would be #drinks channel 🥴

[waxen panther]

#nutrition-science ? 😷
#alcohol-science ?

[spiral robin]

hi

[mossy vessel]

That works as well ig ;p

[twin lagoon]

@mossy vessel uwu

[mossy vessel]

[limpid comet]

hello qt

[spiral robin]

[vernal moth]

@twin lagoon a buddy of mine (idiot) brought a k100 without testing it and he complains that it's too high, do you think it's possible to get low profile key caps or smth?

It's a fucking 250 euro keyboard and it's too late to return 😂

[twin lagoon]

mmmm

best to get DSA keycaps or something

but they're very flat

probably better to resell

[vernal moth]

Does it lower the profile compared to normal key caps? Low profile keyboards have different switches normally, right?

[golden gust]

get used to it or resell, really, with stuff like that, most of it's on the base

reducing the height of the keys might help a bit, but, if the base is too high it's only gonna shove a few dozen mm off it

[twin lagoon]

usually yes

you can only slightly lower it by getting different keycap profiles

and good DSA keycaps can cost some $

you'd be better off selling it to someone

[golden gust]

is he used to like laptop keyboard stypes? coz, looking at the k100, it doesn't really look all that high

like, only real thing I see is that the keys are full chonky

[mossy vessel]

I got my first proper keyboard like a year ago. Before I always had like $10 keyboards.

Not saying those are necessarily bad, just different.

[golden gust]

I have an apple keyboard, in part because it has all the like shortcuts which world properly, finding an alternative looked very eeerrr...

But, I once broke my keyboard and had to use a cheapo for a while

I ended up giving it to my mate when she busted her laptops keyboard and said she could keep the thing as it was horrific

So spongy

[vernal moth]

Nah, he didn't have a mechanical one before

At his GF, he uses a razer ornata, not really mechanical either, and those key kaps are light half size compared to normal mechanical ones

He's generally a mimimi and an idiot, so really, he just suck it up and get used to proper keyboards, lol

Haha, he's sitting next to me and raging the fuck Out 😂

[coarse lily]

What's a "mimimi"?

[limpid comet]

if i had to guess, self centered?

[limber knot]

I would guess someone that complains a lot

[vernal moth]

Yeah

Does that not exist in english?

[limpid comet]

"annoying"

[vernal moth]

Well, we got proper words for it too

[coarse lily]

Ah interesting.

We'd say self centered or egocentric maybe

[vernal moth]

https://german.stackexchange.com/questions/40404/what-is-the-meaning-of-mimimi

Mimimi is mocking the sounds of somebody overly complaining

Doesn't have much to do with being self centered and shit

[coarse lily]

Ahh. Melodramatic.

[vernal moth]

Well, it's not a word in german either

[golden gust]

mimimimimii mr garrison

[coarse lily]

Haha according to that linked article it comes from Beaker on the muppet show.

[vernal moth]

Yeah not too sure about that one

[coarse lily]

It's on the internet so it could be factual or entirely made up on the spot.

[vernal moth]

Well, words also have different origins everywhere

But funny to see that a Brazilian out of all people views it with the same background as I do

[visual egret]

i have finally made my web server cv2-free

it only took a few hours

[limber knot]

What is cv2?

[coarse lily]

Could be, mini.

[coarse lily]

Although a lot of the times it has one origin and then spreads for different reasons.

Especially these days.

[vernal moth]

Anyways, kitty

[stiff yarrow]

Hmm can't think of any word that would fit mimimi off hand in English

[visual egret]

imaging libary thats old and is slow and needs hundreds of dependencies

at least in my experience with it

[coarse lily]

Yeah melodramatic is the closest I can think of. But that's not quite the same

[stiff yarrow]

melodramatic is def different

[vernal moth]

Well, it's not a word really, it's an expression used to mock ppl that complain too much

[stiff yarrow]

Whiny is the closest thing I can think of I guess...

[vernal moth]

Yeah kinda

[visual egret]

ffs

[coarse lily]

Yeah, it's slang. Dramaqueen is a close slang term.

But not quite.

[visual egret]

what did i do wrong

[limber knot]

More context helps

[coarse lily]

Frankly that kind of person has a bit of a catch all phrase among people I know.

"Very LA"

But that means a few things.

[limpid comet]

oskar what r u talking about

u cant just say ffs with a player head and not elaborate

[visual egret]

the colors are broken

it should look like the one on the right

[olive marlin]

Inverted the colors?

[mossy vessel]

I've legit not used mimimi ever in any context, rip me

[visual egret]

it isnt inverted

weird

maybe im reading it in BGR instead of RGB

[limpid comet]

keep it that way

[mossy vessel]

[limpid comet]

i like the first one better

wait

oskar, you are just caching player heads right

[visual egret]

what?

i figured it out btw

[visual egret]

im doing a simple thing:

1) get skin via mojang api
2) get head and helmet of skin
3) put the helmet on top of the head
4) clear the cache every hour

[stiff yarrow]

my first time learning this term was this conversation

[limpid comet]

oh you just want the head

why clear the cache every hour

[mossy vessel]

It's more something german-ish. I haven't seen it in outer contexts yet.

[visual egret]

because heads change

[mossy vessel]

ig

[limpid comet]

give it like a day of life or something

[visual egret]

responsive web design

what tf am i supposed to do there lol

[warm anchor]

Didn’t someone make a bot about it already

Showing any skin of any player via uuid

[mossy vessel]

Yes

[visual egret]

yeah thats what i used to do the bottom left one on that screenshot

[mossy vessel]

There are a plenty of.

[visual egret]

but i made my own to get some experience with the api

also wtf is this code snippet doing in my code

thats being run every hour

[coarse lily]

If you don't know what it's doing then it probably isn't "your code".

[limpid comet]

um

importing in a method?

[visual egret]

no idea what its doing

[limpid comet]

i mean its clear what its doing

[visual egret]

yeah but

like i remember copy pasting that in

and actually changing it

[limpid comet]

did u git revert or sumn

[waxen panther]

python moment

[spiral robin]

👨‍❤️‍💋‍👨

[waxen panther]

only 0.1% of python users actually know how to use python

true fact

[visual egret]

not stealing, learning

[waxen panther]

[mossy vessel]

gross

[spiral robin]

thats blue and brocc

[limpid comet]

i will neither confirm nor deny

[mossy vessel]

eww

[waxen panther]

[visual egret]

that website has been down for the last 2 weeks, i highly doubt its just that issue lol

[waxen panther]

ok

[worn ember]

brocc succ

[mossy vessel]

hot

[waxen panther]

not u tho ded

[worn ember]

thank god

i dont need you succing me

[waxen panther]

'course

[limpid comet]

keep it pg

[mossy vessel]

no

[waxen panther]

'course

[worn ember]

keep it pog

[visual egret]

pycharm is ignoring some dependencies when syncing stuff with requirements.txt

hmm

[ashen cliff]

Like that:
https://posili.me/i/2020-12-27_23-27-55.png
https://posili.me/i/2020-12-27_23-28-54.png

[visual egret]

yeah lol

looks cool

[coarse lily]

Guys krusic22 is doing free frontend dev!

PM for details

[ashen cliff]

[visual egret]

lol

[ashen cliff]

Rock star dev at this point.

[waxen panther]

ocelot is doing free readmes

dm him today

[coarse lily]

I've been in interviews like this. Both with me throwing things out a window and with them saying "rock star" too many times.

I'll do a free readme

[visual egret]

pog no error

[coarse lily]

Write down a description and email it to /dev/null

And I'll get to it.

[void void]

how do i update the mc version

[visual egret]

of what?

[void void]

paper

[visual egret]

you download the latest build and run it?

#paper-help

[limber knot]

.download

https://papermc.io/downloads

[limpid comet]

"no error"

[visual egret]

well

ignore the fact that mysql corrupted again

at this point im just not bothered to fix it

[minor badge]

who the fuck is lukalt

where do these epic PRs come from

[visual egret]

my HTTP 500 error page :)

[limpid comet]

proxi

would u accept a pr that makes version(s) in /version proper grammar

it has been bugging me for the past 5 years

[minor badge]

how is it not correct grammatically

[limpid comet]

instead of version (s) it can be version or versions

[wraith trail]

that might break multicraft

i think it reads the output of /version

[limpid comet]

oh

version(s) is not aesthetic

stupid multicraft

[minor badge]

does it matter?

[limpid comet]

to me it does

bluelypaper incoming

best paper fork

[spiral robin]

bSpigotPaperTaco

[limpid comet]

blueper

[spiral robin]

omh

[ashen cliff]

PaperSpigot.

[spiral robin]

g

[ashen cliff]

Oh wait.

[limpid comet]

like blooper from mario

but blue

[trim raptor]

Anyone have any advice on dealing with server bot attacks?

[limber knot]

online-mode: true

[trim raptor]

we have it through bungee, and online

[minor badge]

look up that antibot plugin on spigotmc

2SL or something

[trim raptor]

i've tried 2 differnt plugins and they are getting by them

[visual egret]

i have none, but all i want to say is that onjoin catchpas are annoying

[trim raptor]

its the most complex bot net I've seen. Every one comes from a different IP and are all actual accounts

but its hundreds of them

[limber knot]

man who u get mad

do they do anything

[minor badge]

i've a feeling you sell stuff

[limber knot]

or just spam chat

if they just spam chat GP can fix that

[trim raptor]

idk, our server has been down for like 4 months and we just relaunched and within 20 minutes they started the attack

[limber knot]

they'll be gone then

[visual egret]

or your server is just popular

[limber knot]

it's cuz "relaunch"

idk why people hype server launches

I guess people want that juicy opportunity 2 b a staff

[trim raptor]

They usually just chill out until they get enough, then they all, at the same time, will do something. Run a ton of commands, all walk to a portal (hub server) or follow a specific player

But they are just overloading the network and the entire network is lagging out during an attack

[limber knot]

wow someone really spent quite a bit of time

[golden gust]

have you used anti-vpn?

[limber knot]

usually I'd just get a guy on a vpn logging in with alts and GP banning them

[golden gust]

potentially a long shot, but 🤷‍♂️

[trim raptor]

for real, someone has been ddosing the server while it's been down the lat few weeks and I'm sure they were just testing to see how effective it was but OVH caught it

[golden gust]

at the end of the day, there is no real way to distinguish them from other accounts outside of their network provider potentially

[trim raptor]

and yes, we have an antivpn that has been pretty effective but doesn't catch these

[limber knot]

what providers

[golden gust]

grab a few of their IPs and check their ASNs

[limber knot]

ya

[golden gust]

maybe some ranges you can block or something

[sand epoch]

I've heard good things about tcpshield which is specifically targeted towards minecraft but idk if they do anything about bots

[limber knot]

doesn't sound like he's getting layer 7 attacks

so doubt it'd do anything else

as is on ovh already

[trim raptor]

i've spent the last hour or hub kicking the bots and it looks like they stopped

but now, I think they're doing something else because the connection is just dropping and disconnecting everyone

[sand epoch]

now you might be getting layer 7 attacks

[trim raptor]

our bungee box doesn't have the MC gaming protection

[limber knot]

huh

[ashen cliff]

The only thing that actually needs it.

[limber knot]

ya all your protection needs to be at the front door

[sand epoch]

your backend servers probably don't need to be protected from your bungee instance

[trim raptor]

Yeah I'm gonna talk to OVH about getting that going

[twin lagoon]

"talk to OVH"

[ashen cliff]

Attempt to talk.*

[waxen panther]

talking to
real hosts

[wraith trail]

some guy in #paper-help apparently got ionos to set up a paper server for him on a vps

[ashen cliff]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[limber knot]

ionos?

[ashen cliff]

Till he paid.

[limber knot]

wut dat

[ashen cliff]

A German hosting provider.

[wraith trail]

basically rebranded 1&1

also apparently mail.com and gmxmail

[ashen cliff]

Time to buy Contabo again.

[waxen panther]

[trim raptor]

you right XD
They told me a while ago they can't upgrade a server but will be happy to help me setup a new one if I buy it

[twin lagoon]

yes

[limber knot]

should b ez copy paste job

[ashen cliff]

Usually is.

[twin lagoon]

k

[ashen cliff]

https://posili.me/i/2020-12-28_00-37-51.png

I see they live upgraded the CPU again.

Kinda epic.

As it should be.

[limpid comet]

can someone explain how a vps can have 0.5 cores

[limber knot]

ez

[golden gust]

will show to the VPS as 1 core

[limber knot]

50%

[ashen cliff]

1 core, but limited to 50%.

[golden gust]

but, the host will CPU limit

woooo

[sage pier]

are there any performance tests comparing paper to yatopia and other forks

[minor badge]

?ban @void void Racist / troll

[ashen cliff]

And then they put you on a many core 1.8Ghz Xeon.

[leaden oxide]

lil xandr1a5#9517 was banned | Racist / troll

[limpid comet]

ok thanks

@waxen panther ur jailbreak friend was banned

[waxen panther]

haha yeah i wouldn't have any idea about that

[limpid comet]

[waxen panther]

all the performance tests are bias towards yatopia

so, not really. you could do some tho

[sage pier]

is there any difference

[ashen cliff]

No reason for them to have worse performance, just worse code quality, stability and compatibility.

[waxen panther]

yatopias performance advantage vs tuinitys is very very slim

[true canyon]

What would a yatopia performance test be? Chunks corrupted per minute?

[waxen panther]

I dont think they have starlight yet anyway which would probably blow it out of the water

[ashen cliff]

Chunk corrupting builds per month.

Good thing we have Paper also contending for that one.

[sage pier]

tuinity is for high player counts but i’ve heard it has experimental optimizations soon coming to paper. on a 10 players concurrent server should i use it

[waxen panther]

patch reverts per commits

You shouldnt need anything more than paper for a 10 player server

there's other things you could do first, run the optimisation command in #paper-help and then if that doesn't help you send your timings there

[true canyon]

Paper's always the best starting place. 🙂

[limpid comet]

really only look into tuinity if you need it

[twin lagoon]

no

[sage pier]

what’s the command i can’t find it in pins

[twin lagoon]

for 10 players you can just use paper

[sage pier]

do you mean the jvm flags

[twin lagoon]

.optimize

[limber knot]

https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/guide-server-optimization⚡.283181/

additional tips for improving server performance - https://www.spigotmc.org/posts/3684550

[sage pier]

ok. i currently use a fabric server and am enjoying it quite a bit but i’m missing out on anticheat plugins

[worn ember]

look for replacement mods ig

[waxen panther]

Nah, switch to paper

[ashen cliff]

Nah. Switch to Fukkit.

[waxen panther]

If your players are expecting exploits though they'll be disappointed

[golden gust]

the ultimate fuck it

[worn ember]

ayayaya

[golden gust]

speaking of fukkit

puts DED in the bucket

[worn ember]

hater

[waxen panther]

mm i need a brocAyaya too

[limber knot]

dumcordian, u do not deserve whatever an ayayaya is

[zealous wedge]

that benchmark is still quite old

[waxen panther]

dum

[golden gust]

depends

If plugins didn't exist, he'd of probs already done it

it's the plugins which hook into NMS which are the issues

leafs toyed with some stuff but had to given up with it because of stuff like citizens

[waxen panther]

eeehhh

thats not true

plugins that use nms are pretty weird champ you're not wrong

[limpid comet]

if i had the knowledge to do it i would spend my entire life redoing the server

[waxen panther]

even bluely could do it faster than mojang

[golden gust]

I really wanna work on async player data

[waxen panther]

bet

u wont

[golden gust]

mainly because my brains half dead and that's really ez to do

[waxen panther]

eternity is here

[limpid comet]

is it possible for a game server (of any type i guess) to not have a main thread or are they intrinsically main theaded

[warm anchor]

How to make zzcat not dead 🤔

[peak ginkgo]

I will test it in production gladly

[peak ginkgo]

Let me show you Velocity

[warm anchor]

[golden gust]

Depends on the game

[limpid comet]

yea but velocity is just a proxy

[waxen panther]

rust servers are very light

epic game .

[golden gust]

many games are tick based as it's easy, stuff like dealing with AI is easy and ideal to do tick based

[limpid comet]

i guess if you're dealing with world modifications its probably easier to have a main thread

[golden gust]

player interaction is generally where you start going threaded, but, in the terms of a client/server/P2P setup, that's not really doing much work

[limpid comet]

i see

thanks for the tldr

[waxen panther]

do u see

[golden gust]

biggest thing for MC would be parallel ticking of stuff

But, only super safe/determinate way to deal with stuff like that is regional ticking

path finders could easily be done in parallel if you didn't have to deal with events

[waxen panther]

dont worry, our lovely fork community does not operate with words like "safe"

[warm anchor]

I’d take a regional ticking where player may suffer a load time crossing region over what we have rn that’s not scalable tbh

[waxen panther]

[golden gust]

The biggest issue with regional is plugins

[waxen panther]

[warm anchor]

I’d say if paper is big enough they will support it

[golden gust]

e.g. if you teleport a player, ideally with parallel ticking you'd be able to delay that until after the tick

But, you can't really do that without breaking behavior, so you gotta block, and then you got the risks of deadlocking, which, erm... fun...

[warm anchor]

Make it like a sort of border or something similar

Other game does it by cleverly hide it with things like going up and down elevators

[golden gust]

that's the idea of regional, the issue is what happens when you leave that border

[warm anchor]

🤷‍♂️

[golden gust]

then again, maybe you kinda don't gotta care

hmmm

[warm anchor]

I am sure some big server would take this breaking behavior over low tps

[golden gust]

Like, your biggest risk is that an entity loses a tick when you teleport it

which is very nuanced as we know that that is not always safe, so, eerr...

[warm anchor]

After all they probably broke most of the behavior compare to vanilla yeah

[golden gust]

So, think that the only last concern is events

hm

Well, both

[warm anchor]

It’s even better to have both

Coz the future of cpu is going to be a multi core one

Not much both company can do on their 10nm processor and 7nm still have a long way to go

[waxen panther]

imagine if you could just nuke all overhead

[warm anchor]

One simple trick to optimize server

Peaceful mode

[limber knot]

no

villagers

[warm anchor]

Oh fuck

[waxen panther]

max-players: 0
load-spawn-chunks: false

[wraith trail]

just send a world and keep the connection alive

don't do anything else

client thinks everything is fine until they break a block

[limber knot]

oh

I should try to get my death plugin working again

that's the ultimate lag killer

isClientSide = true

[wraith trail]

completely p2p minecraft

no server

[waxen panther]

robo

we all know you dont name variables like that

[wraith trail]

"with blockchain technology"

[waxen panther]

it'll be like isCheeseToaster

[limber knot]

you have a cheese toaster?

[waxen panther]

who doesnt

[limber knot]

but alas dumcordian, I c u don't know the tale of isClientSide

[waxen panther]

wtf mbax

[true canyon]

I don't even know what a cheese toaster is.

I'm guessing you just mean a toaster oven, but one you ritualistically reserve for cheese...

[ashen cliff]

Toaster made of CHEESE.

[waxen panther]

it's a toaster you use to heat up your cheese

obviously

[wraith trail]

https://sulu.me/nxhWG5.png

[waxen panther]

like that but without the bread ability

[wraith trail]

apparently this is meant to catch cheese drips and allow you to make grilled cheese in a toaster

[olive marlin]

@minor badge this is epic: https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/blob/master/src/test/ui/weird-exprs.rs
I now want to use these in one of my projects lol

[limber knot]

I just use the lean mean fat grilling machine

[next fractal]

hey guys do you know any java 8 alternatives for ProcessHandle.current().info().command() (the currently running java.exe)?

[limber knot]

hmm wat u doin

[next fractal]

wanna verify the jvm. for that I need to get "where are we running from"

[limber knot]

ooo

y u verifyin

dis sounds interestin

[next fractal]

because I want to make sure that ppl don't modify the jvm in order to bypass some security measures

[merry talon]

I got little bags that you supposedly put the raw grilled cheese in in the toaster

[minor badge]

i hope you realise just how easy bytecode manipulation has become

[twin lagoon]

proxi

[waxen panther]

proxi still awake

[twin lagoon]

brocc

[merry talon]

my mom knows I'm a grilled cheese connoisseur

[next fractal]

i know it very well. please get back to my original question regarding getting the jvm path

[waxen panther]

michael

[merry talon]

why do you need to do this

[minor badge]

your efforts will be wasted if i can just add a return at the beginning of the check lol

[next fractal]

and thats why there are -XX:+DisableAttachMechanism

and currently some ppl bypassed it by modifying the jvm to ignore the flag

[twin lagoon]

how are you verifying the jvm by that though?

[minor badge]

but.. you can just remove the check altogether. extremely easily.

[next fractal]

ok ok I know i know

but it's better to make it harder, than leave it because "nothing is impossible to decompile"

[limber knot]

I like spending my time on solving real problems with real solutions

or just making chaos is fine too

[minor badge]

you dont even need to decompile. can just disassemble and add a single instruction in most cases and woo, done

[twin lagoon]

proxi

[minor badge]

hewo michelle

[twin lagoon]

awa

[minor badge]

i should perhaps sleep

[olive marlin]

Proxi

[twin lagoon]

i should also sleep

[minor badge]

so should you two smh

[twin lagoon]

bloodstone go sleep

[waxen panther]

go to sleep

[olive marlin]

Sleep is for the weak smh

[next fractal]

[spiral robin]

go sleep together uwu

[limber knot]

dumcordians

[twin lagoon]

uwu

[zealous wedge]

lol wtf are you trying to do

[next fractal]

eh

[cosmic raft]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4E1AvbNPg4

[minor badge]

DRM or something

[zealous wedge]

oh gross

[cosmic raft]

#mood

[minor badge]

look at https://www.coley.software/Recaf/ -- supposedly a very good, very cool bytecode editor

[waxen panther]

proximyst is my bytecode editor

[minor badge]

would make it ez to avoid your check

[next fractal]

okay but if it's obfuscated to hell you're gonna spend a good time finding it

[minor badge]

no im not?

[waxen panther]

security through obfuscation 😔

[zealous wedge]

oh are you one of those fuckers who believes in obf too

[minor badge]

attach a debugger, look where it disables, remove the path

[twin lagoon]

[next fractal]

just let me know if there is any way to get the command line for java

please

[minor badge]

i dont know lol

[zealous wedge]

no fuck off stop doing dumb shit

[minor badge]

im not google

nor is this the dev channel lol

[waxen panther]

giga

[olive marlin]

On Linux, check /proc/self

[spiral robin]

🍿

[olive marlin]

For Windows, just disable immediately lol

[next fractal]

general dev channel doesn't exists, and this is not spigot / bungge related, so this is the place where I came

[minor badge]

paper-dev is the general dev channel tbh

[swift root]

Woa

Hewwo

[waxen panther]

Larry !

[swift root]

UwU

[twin lagoon]

laaaaaaaaaaaaaaarry

[cosmic raft]

I hope nobody helps you with that question, to be honest.

[minor badge]

but really, dont waste your time

[waxen panther]

i am in syscraft and you haven't even greeted me .

[limpid comet]

hi larebear

[twin lagoon]

kaaaaaaashike

[swift root]

Hi bbs

[minor badge]

its incredibly easy to just.. delet your check

[zealous wedge]

step 1: shut your computer down

[limpid comet]

dont objectify me i am NOT a bb bullet.

[zealous wedge]

step 2: pack it up

[minor badge]

even easy to teach

[zealous wedge]

step 3: give it to someone who will make better use of it than you will

[next fractal]

I get it

[waxen panther]

damn zml is not fuckin around today

[spiral robin]

zml needs a hug