general

[woven otter]

heh

try rs3 then

well rs is the grindiest game anyways

that's better

partyrealms when

soon™️

[waxen panther]

[spring mango]

I got a 8GB ram stick for upgrading the memory on my laptop, but I am scared that I would mess up . I am such a noob duh

[cosmic raft]

yea

[woven otter]

only rs3?

[warm anchor]

Do it no pussy

[unkempt drift]

ok, so serious question about supporting multiple mc versions on your server. The only reason I can think to do this, is to support the people who really cant be bothered to create another profile on the MC launcher cause they are too lazy to do so. Is there another one other than this?

[warm anchor]

The only reason. I am think off for via is when new version comes out say 1.17 and you wish to stay on stable version just a bit longer so your server is on 1.16 but allow them to join from 1.17

Going backward for 1.8 is just stupidest shit

[spring mango]

I was too nervous about ESD killing my component. Plus I am on a notebook, so everything is fricking crammed in a tiny spot which makes it super complicated for me

[woven otter]

there's no other reason to support other versions other than it being convenient to people who play outdated versions

[waxen panther]

the chance of you frying a component is incredibly low

[warm anchor]

Or you are an offline server there are some launcher only works in certain version with pirated account and all that good shit

[waxen panther]

dont be scared of it

[warm anchor]

Fried broccoli is tasty. Random thought

[unkempt drift]

never been a broccoli fan tbh

[woven otter]

broccs are pretty ehh

[warm anchor]

I got my lunch from Chinese place. It’s roasted duck with broccoli

[unkempt drift]

for a long time, I thought cauliflower was like albino broccoli

[waxen panther]

I've never had fried broccoli

I'd try it

[woven otter]

fry yourself

[waxen panther]

dum

[warm anchor]

Technically they are all the same vegetable

[woven otter]

u

[waxen panther]

I had roast duck a couple nights ago though

[woven otter]

NO 😠

[split marlin]

Has anyone heard of a 1.7.10 Paper fork called BasedSpigot

[woven otter]

no

[warm anchor]

No

[unkempt drift]

no

[woven otter]

1.7.10

[unkempt drift]

why do you want a 1.7.10 paper fork?

[waxen panther]

sounds absolutely, completely, unquestionably pepega

[woven otter]

jumping to conclusions smh

[warm anchor]

Inb4 Bitcoin minor running jar

[unkempt drift]

is there a bitcoin mining plugin on spigot? like not one that hid its intentions, just a straight up bitcoin miner

[woven otter]

hmmm...

[warm anchor]

Sec let me google it.

I doubt it will pass the review

[unkempt drift]

"This plugin only mines bitcoin for the author, it has no other purpose"

[split marlin]

I would unironically download that

Doing my part to enrich others

[woven otter]

please mine bitcoin for me

[unkempt drift]

is it against the spigotmc policies? like its not hiding it or something

maybe a config option to turn it off too 🙂

[woven otter]

mine on servers with low player counts because hey they arent using that computational power anyways

[unkempt drift]

inb4 bstats implements that into their stuff 😆

[warm anchor]

This is true. Time to make it reality

[viral hornet]

@minor badge https://www.reddit.com/r/australia/comments/kk92xn/i_introduced_a_fuzzy_friend_to_my_local_lorikeets/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

[fallen oracle]

F.

[serene bolt]

thankfully there is a new workaround for that, but it's not as good as the embed method you're using in that picture which they patched :P

[warm anchor]

nice

[cosmic raft]

fuck twitch.tv

[warm anchor]

a cancer getting rid of itself that's good glare

[austere ivy]

really don’t like them, huh? why?

what’d they do?

[cosmic raft]

ads

[serene bolt]

among many other controversial moderation policies, they need a good competitor real bad but that's not going to happen now after mixers death

[void void]

trovo is a competitor imo

[brave radish]

so i'm not asking what the best IDE is, i know that would cause a civil war, but out of curiosity, do all (or almost all) of the main paper devs use the same one?

[serene bolt]

most people here use intellij idea probably

[void void]

jesus that nasheville bombing looks scary

[brave radish]

as do i, but i tend to see a lot of people trashing intellij in favor of netbeans so i was wondering

[formal turret]

isn't youtube really the only one who can compete now

[serene bolt]

uh lol well, that's definitely an opinion, saying netbeans is better than intellij is surprising to me

[brave radish]

judging by the availabillity of the reaction i put on that post i'd guess most use intellij :)

[serene bolt]

I see intellij used most of the time, eclipse is also commonly used, but netbeans is sort of... uncommon in my experience

[waxen panther]

people trash intellij for netbeans?

[knotty rose]

Bruh imagine usong netbeans for serious stuff

i remember using it a lot of time ago when i was learning, but i switched to eclipse little after

[waxen panther]

imagine using eclipse for serious stuff

[unkempt drift]

wait people are trashing intellij in favor of netbeans?

is this like the md_5 fan club you are talking about or...?

[waxen panther]

smh machine

[knotty rose]

Eclipse is an ide with several features while netbeans isnt

I get roasted for using eclipse, imagine if i used netbeans lmfao

[ancient bolt]

sounds like a shitty job

[short yarrow]

why would a job force you to use a certain ide o.o

[unkempt drift]

They might have integrations setup for certain ide’s. Also I imaging it’s easier to enforce styling, consistency with one.

Also helps IT departments in that they don’t have to support multiple.

[zealous wedge]

something like "our codestyle is in this ide's format, plus xyz plugin we use for validation/whatever fucked up toolchain" probably

even better if they don't have an actual build tool so the whole project is in one ide's format

[unkempt drift]

I don’t think it’s unreasonable for jobs to enforce IDE for their system.

[wraith trail]

but if you choose to enforce netbeans...

[cosmic raft]

yay google sheets x_x

=CONCAT(CONCAT(COUNTIF(F1:F119, "F"), "/"), ROWS(F1:F119))

[unkempt drift]

Wow, no $ on column/row identifiers 😆

[cosmic raft]

That's nothing, too

[potent fossil]

(re why companies enforce ide)

in my case it went like this:

me: hey manager, why do we have to use eclipse can we use intellij idea instead?
manager: perhaps, the reason you are using eclipse is i had no idea what else there was to use.
manager: hey workplace team can you remove eclipse from simple's pc and put intellij idea on it?
workplace: the company needs a license first please wait; hey business agreements team can we get a license
business agreements: 2 week plz
one eternity later
workplace: here's ur intellij idea

[cosmic raft]

Here, @unkempt drift

=AND(NOT(ISBLANK(INDIRECT(ADDRESS(ROW(), COLUMN())))), EQ(INDIRECT(ADDRESS(ROW(), COLUMN() - 1)), "HOLD"),(NETWORKDAYS(INDIRECT(ADDRESS(ROW(), COLUMN())), TODAY()) - 1) >= INDIRECT("Configuration!B4"))

[potent fossil]

what the fuck

[cosmic raft]

:D

[spiral robin]

wtf

does that do

[unkempt drift]

I find myself just using the js scripting tool to make custom functions when I want something complex.

[cosmic raft]

@woven otter https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pOrlpuMtW8

and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkR7zClEkAo

[coarse lily]

Has anyone seen Airplane? Yet another Tuinity fork?

https://airplane.gg

It is kinda funny that their TPS graph boasts 12TPS

I’m not sure that’s worth bragging about.

[wraith trail]

their whole site is a joke

look under "what we do differently" or whatever

[coarse lily]

Yeah seems like nonsense.

I was looking for the repo but seems like it’s potentially closed source and only for sale. Which maybe is a license violation?

Curious what patches they have to magically fix all entities.

[wraith trail]

you can't even buy it if you want to

[cunning raft]

rule of thumb is never pay for a fork

[coarse lily]

Well duh

[wraith trail]

https://sulu.me/QcLwGj.png (from their discord)

[coarse lily]

Paying for a fork is a terrible idea.

[cunning raft]

but selling a fork isn't against GPL but not disclosing sources when requested is

[coarse lily]

Yeah

[cunning raft]

which, i doubt they'd give you

[coarse lily]

That’s the bit I meant. The source. Not the selling.

[cunning raft]

but no, closed source forks aren't against license, they don't have to give it to you

(unless you pay)

which none of them ever do

pog!

[zealous wedge]

but once you pay you're free to do whatever you want with that source under the terms of the GPL

including selling copies yourself :)

[coarse lily]

Haha

[cunning raft]

and the binary!

[wraith trail]

assuming they are willing to give it to you

which they almost never will be

[coarse lily]

I’m gonna sell my body.

[wraith trail]

as there is no one to enforce the gpl

[cunning raft]

well there are the courts

[wraith trail]

well yeah but do they really

[coarse lily]

Is selling my body against the GPL?

[zealous wedge]

points at legal fund

[cunning raft]

yeah nobody will sue anyone

we need some rich fuck to stumble into mc modding

have them sue everyone

[zealous wedge]

anywayssss

[cunning raft]

anyone have connections to jeef beezo

[zealous wedge]

who's rich and owns a company

or has an office they can put as their address on the DMCA

[wraith trail]

bluely was talking about burning money earlier today

[coarse lily]

Jeef Beezo is a great villain name.

I have an office.

In my heart.

[cunning raft]

i mean someone could get a po box

[coarse lily]

Deep inside my heart.

[cunning raft]

you can't get real address from those

[wraith trail]

isn't there a pay extra for a real address option?

I swear there was

[coarse lily]

For PO Boxes? They limit them so you can’t use them for weird stuff.

And by “weird stuff” I mean “stuff someone wants a real address for”. But you can usually find ways around it if you’re tenacious.

[cunning raft]

DMCA takedown requests can use PO Boxes

any valid address iirc

[coarse lily]

I had a PO Box for a while when I was moving a lot and I managed to get a bunch of stuff using it that I was it supposed to. Billing address for things etc.

Yeah. There’s the tug of war between wanting to be legit but also not wanting to people to try to screw you.

[void void]

registering a company to PO box isn't even allowed here, smfh

and i rather wouldn't dox myself

_>

[spiral robin]

Could you get the parcel sent to a local courier?

Oh I didn't read

[cosmic raft]

hai aber

[spiral robin]

hai :)

[cunning raft]

fix for that would be authorize someone to act on your behalf

[void void]

or virtual office

since e-residency is a thing here, and there are surprisingly many foreigners who have registered their company here, then that thing seems to just work ™️

[patent crow]

@heavy dust

[limpid comet]

ugh replacement laptop parts are so expensive

https://en.accessoires-asus.com/flat-cable-10-inches-hard-disk-for-rog-strix-63672-67719.htm#g731gv|l

29 euro for this piece of shit

[spiral robin]

eh theyre all the same

get a 50 cent no brand one

[limpid comet]

i cant find any for this laptop except this

all at least $20 on ebay

[lusty yarrow]

Does anyone have experience with setting up a mysql database?

[void void]

what's the actual issue you're facing?

[cosmic raft]

@limpid comet yours broke?

or what

[limpid comet]

yea a long time ago

i've been fine for now since i just got a 1tb nvme but now that im dual booting windows & linux i want some space for a few games

[spiral robin]

Willow

[limpid comet]

Aber pog

[spiral robin]

Bluely

[limpid comet]

How's nameless doing

[spiral robin]

Was Santa good to u

[limpid comet]

Yes very good

I got so many pokemon

[spiral robin]

Yes very good we did a big release today, been nearly a year :D

Ooo pog any good ones

[limpid comet]

V2 finally out?

Yes did you see the secret rare I pulled?

[spiral robin]

No, just another pre release lol. We plan 1 more pre then full v2

And no, show!

[limpid comet]

Cool, cool

I have a vid one sec

I think that's it

[spiral robin]

Wow

[limpid comet]

Ikr not bad

[spiral robin]

Shiney = good

[limpid comet]

But my friend did a huge massive 4 hour long opening (he's been stocking up for months, more tomorrow) and he pulled well over a thousand worth of cards

[spiral robin]

Jesus

That's great

[limpid comet]

Ikr he got stupidly lucky

Yeah it was awesome to watch

[spiral robin]

Did he pull more than he spent tho

[limpid comet]

I think he did

[spiral robin]

Nicxceeeee. E e e e

[limpid comet]

Yeah and there's more tomorrow

What about you, were you Santa's little pogchamp

[spiral robin]

What did u get Mrs pinkly this year

Lmfao my brother started calling me that today

[limpid comet]

LOL

[spiral robin]

But yes Santa got me a new chair for school 😄

[limpid comet]

Omg poggers

Good chairs are underrated

[spiral robin]

Ill build it when I move into the new place I told u about and show u then

[limpid comet]

Dub

I got pinkly art supplies, chocolate of course, some tea, a nice necklace and various other knick knacks

[spiral robin]

🥰

What a gentlemen

[limpid comet]

I try my best

Have you moved in yet?

[spiral robin]

[limpid comet]

wtf.

[spiral robin]

No, on the 4th I do

[limpid comet]

Oh cool

[spiral robin]

Until then, tomorrow is my last day of work and then I have about 12 days of doing NOTHING it's gonna be great

[limpid comet]

Omg pog

[spiral robin]

Haven't had more than 2 days off in a row since April

[limpid comet]

I would die tbh

[spiral robin]

Do you have a job? I forget

[limpid comet]

Not at the moment, no

I would look but right now is the worse time, we have another full lockdown

[spiral robin]

You'd make good money at the stop sign tho. That's a good fallback

Yeah that's not exactly optimal job finding time

[limpid comet]

I'm just gonna focus on dev stuff, hopefully I can make some money off that

[spiral robin]

QuantumAPIProMax

[limpid comet]

I also have new found motivation to do college now, I think I'm gonna go into ux design

Exactly

[spiral robin]

Or start bluelySpigot

Oh nice that's awesome!

[limpid comet]

Yeah, I want to be able to make things look nice

[spiral robin]

My friend went to uhhh mohawk college? For graphic design. Somewhere in Ontario that school is

[limpid comet]

Oh cool

Luckily I've got an extra year to figure that all out

[spiral robin]

Gap years underrated

[limpid comet]

Ummmm

I was just about to walk into the bank to deposit some money

There's a homeless guy sleeping in there

Tfw

[spiral robin]

Isn't it 3am

[lusty yarrow]

I have a dedi with hetzner, and im trying to make a mysql database, but idk what to do here?

[spiral robin]

Wut

[lusty yarrow]

for the host do I do the dedi's IP?

[spiral robin]

Where's that screen from?

[lusty yarrow]

its a ss

[limpid comet]

Yes it is 3 am

Out for a walk

[spiral robin]

Yes I know that jmaster

But from what

[lusty yarrow]

wisp

[limpid comet]

Wisp is gross use pterodactyl

[spiral robin]

Fair enough

[lusty yarrow]

Couldnt be bothered to change it

[spiral robin]

Stay safe out there blue

Gn gotta wake up early for work

Take care man

[limpid comet]

Good night Aber you have a nice sleep

[limpid comet]

i have upgraded

[void void]

wdym

[limpid comet]

i have nitro now

every message i send will now have an emote

[coarse lily]

Watching something on Netflix and then refreshing it and finding it gone from Netflix is . . . annoying.

[limpid comet]

tf? thats crazy

never had that happen to me

[coarse lily]

Me either.

I thought it was a bug "No longer available in your country"

Turns out it rolled off Netflix today.

Turns out it's on HBO Max now, which is fine I guess because I have HBO Max so at least I can watch it. But HBO Max is less user friendly.

[limpid comet]

ugh i hate all these media companies making their own streaming services

[swift root]

Lies

[swift root]

Seee

[limpid comet]

🇸 🇭 🇺 🇹

[untold copper]

yes

[swift root]

owo mikro how goes it

[void void]

yo peeps where do y'all download schematics from

[swift root]

Usually the internet

[limpid comet]

isnt there a website for that

[void void]

which

[limpid comet]

minecraftschematics or something

[void void]

i want to throw together a quick poc for an idea

[swift root]

Actually always the internet

[limpid comet]

https://www.minecraft-schematics.com/ i guess this?

[void void]

what in the fuck is this pfp

[limpid comet]

^ larry pls

[void void]

glad that i use compact mode lul

[void void]

tbh i even have an account there but never checked the site itself

[coarse lily]

Larry likes his avatar.

[void void]

https://www.minecraft-schematics.com/schematic/15125/ check my dope schematic

[limpid comet]

damnnn mik

[coarse lily]

blue I agree. We're getting to the point where you need to have 50 $10 subscriptions.

[limpid comet]

didnt realize u were a badass builder

[coarse lily]

Which is worse than just having fucking cable.

[limpid comet]

yeah it's super absurd. people liked streaming to cut the cable, but now there's no point

[coarse lily]

mik that's a hell of a schema

Nice work.

[void void]

i put a lot effort into building that quartz wall in the background

i did it manually

:')

[coarse lily]

We built a giant dinosaur

[swift root]

The abominable snowman from Dr who ! It's my Christmas theme avatar

[coarse lily]

I should make that a schematic.

Actually we built a giant turtle again last month, too.

[void void]

lul i didn't even remember that

but ya i went for minecraft-mp achievement hunting

[coarse lily]

Haha

[molten fable]

Okay guys, I need help. Not related to Paper. I have a guy who spwned 2 ender dragons on PlotSqared but I cant kill them. They dont have a health bar and can't be killed, it is in a crative world so to say. All commands dosn't work. I have tryed to change word settings to survival and it didn't change anything. When ia use commands it just says player not fund and ia user also the name that the dgons has "Solarflayer_" ... nothing I did worked.

[limpid comet]

/minecraft:kill @e[type=ender_dragon]

[coarse lily]

That's a pretty sweet command

[molten fable]

GOD THANKX

[coarse lily]

Blue is a hero.

Stuck ender dragons do suck.

[limpid comet]

ahahah

[coarse lily]

So I empathize.

[molten fable]

18 kiled..

[coarse lily]

Haha!

[limpid comet]

yeah @e[type=whatever] will target all mob types of whatever

[coarse lily]

18

[molten fable]

but I tryed...

[void void]

ender dragons consist of multiple entities

[coarse lily]

Oh

[void void]

9 per edragon perhaps

[coarse lily]

That makes more sense then.

[limpid comet]

make sure u dont have a plugin spawning these ender dragons tho

[molten fable]

but not with /minecraf:

[limpid comet]

oh it was a guy

yeah essentials overrides /kill

which you are probably using based on that afk message

[molten fable]

fu...

[coarse lily]

I was on a server once where you couldn't spawn a new dragon and no one could figure out why. But turns out the was a live dragon at like . . . +4k, +4k

And it was just derping out there

[limpid comet]

lol wtf

[coarse lily]

Kinda funny

I guess it followed someone or something.

Took them a while to track it down.

[molten fable]

dam...

[limber knot]

how did that happen?

[molten fable]

Thanks a lot ... I was about to get sik 😄

[coarse lily]

Geo - which?

[limber knot]

The dragon usually doesn't follow the player

[coarse lily]

Oh yeah.

No fucking clue.

Glitched out somehow I guess.

[limber knot]

I blame yatopia

[coarse lily]

Hahaha

It was paper, actually!

But let's blame yatopia anyway.

[molten fable]

Thansks alot for the help! 🙂

[coarse lily]

Glad you got it sorted.

[untold copper]

whats these do

?

[coarse lily]

Can you be more specific?

There's like 9 things highlighted there.

[untold copper]

top 1

[patent stream]

hi is there a way to make a 24 hour server uding paper mc?

[limpid comet]

looks like it checks if there is a value in an array and returns true/false

[untold copper]

ok

uh 2nd one?

[void void]

that specific thing is tenary

statement ? true-cond : false-cond

[limpid comet]

second one checks if theres a value in an array and returns the index as a string

[void void]

equal to if (statement) { true-cond } else { false-cond } more or less

[coarse lily]

ternaries are entertaining.

[limpid comet]

i love ternaries

third one is an implementation of bubblesort

[coarse lily]

You can tell because it's called bubbleSort

[limpid comet]

this looks suspiciously like eclipse

[coarse lily]

Pretty sure it is.

[limpid comet]

nah i didn't even notice that. im just so cool i can instantly recognize all sorting algorithms

[coarse lily]

Haha

Since we're talking about sorting algorithms.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPRA0W1kECg

I love this video.

[limpid comet]

fuck yea

that video rocks

[coarse lily]

Great visual representation.

[limber knot]

Does it have bogosort?

Ah yes, ofc

[coarse lily]

I always chuckle at bogosort because it makes me think of "Buy one, get one"

Like as if bogosort were two sorts. And you get a second sort for free.

[molten fable]

Hi! I vas lukky to find a plot with an end crystal on a bedrock and there were 256 ederdragons on the plot. Maybe it helps now that I hav sat it to not spawn mobs 🙂

[coarse lily]

Jesus.

[limpid comet]

you might want to disable players spawning mobs

[coarse lily]

Yeah.

Or use WG to disable end crystal placement.

[limpid comet]

there's some world guard flag im sure thatll let you disable spawn eggs

that too

[coarse lily]

Or . . . something.

[molten fable]

okay 🙂

[untold copper]

@molten fable how did u do that o.o

[molten fable]

I didn't a random gamer did 🙂

[coarse lily]

Someone trolling probably.

Maybe ban that person too.

[molten fable]

yeah but he told me to checit out so he didnt expect it to work 🙂

[coarse lily]

Haha

Okay that's fair then.

BTW

https://worldguard.enginehub.org/en/latest/blacklist/

[molten fable]

Thanks!

[coarse lily]

Worldguard blackilist

If you deny end crystal that'll fix that.

And you can do it per world/etc.

Pretty handy.

[molten fable]

I'll have a look at it, thanks a lot!

[untold copper]

try WG Extra flags as well

[molten fable]

Yes I had it on once but it stoped working so - I see that is is updatede again. 🙂

I sat wg flag mob-spawn deny and it sems too work. 😉

[coarse lily]

Ah that works too.

If you don't want them to spawn any mobs at all.

[molten fable]

I think that the porpuse of plots is to be "Creative" and buid somtning nice, I dnon't see the porpuse of mobs in the plotworld... Not anymore haha

[coarse lily]

Sure, makes sense.

[limpid comet]

you shouldn't need wg extra flags

wg has most of the important world management stuff built in

[coarse lily]

Yeah.

[molten fable]

Thanks!

[coarse lily]

Extra flags is overkill

But sounds like you got it sorted. \m/

[molten fable]

\m/ 🙂

I had a guy who mad a redstone "machine" wich he thought wil make the server crash but it only made som local lag i think and a player kept loosing connection to the server for a while ... I just deleted his plod and ban him. I think it's sad becouse i think that restone nerds kan do some fanys things so if I stop redstone circuits then it will be a little borring 🙂

[coarse lily]

Yeah restone pros do some really cool stuff.

[untold copper]

3061 votes for my server this month

a bit less than the 5000 last month

[limber knot]

Which server?

[untold copper]

mc server

[limber knot]

Though you meant the paper discord server and was confused

*thought not though

[void void]

Hello

[limber knot]

hello

[untold copper]

hewwo

[void void]

Where's paper mc Server

for 1.16.4

[limber knot]

papermc.io ?

[void void]

i can play there?

[limber knot]

nah

[coarse lily]

You can download it there.

[void void]

no i don't want download

I thought you had a server

official paper server

[limber knot]

Hello everyone

[coarse lily]

Nope, don't think so.

[limber knot]

hello

Hi waazaa

[topaz mortar]

Nope, there was one in the beginning of 1.16 because of bugfixing. Community member hosted.

[coarse lily]

I did start one for 1.16.4 but seemed like not enough people were interested in playing.

[void void]

Ok

[vernal moth]

actually playing Minecraft

[void void]

It would be good if it had PvP

[coarse lily]

Haha yeah

I mean I'm playing vanilla right now.

But I'm mostly just doing it to heat up my laptop because it's chilly. :)

[vernal moth]

Ah yes, using your pc as a space heater

[coarse lily]

That's right.

[vernal moth]

I remember doing that back in my amd bulldozer days

[coarse lily]

I've got enough computers in this room to noticeably increase the ambient temp by now.

[vernal moth]

8 "cores", 4.5ghz, boom

[twin lagoon]

actual boom

[void void]

boom

[twin lagoon]

amd bulldozer

[void void]

Guys buy amazon prime

It's epic

[merry talon]

everyone has prime

[vernal moth]

That thing deserved the name of a bulldozer

It operated like one, sucking 150w power

Which was huge back then

[void void]

I love the car show on prime

[coarse lily]

Quad core 2.5GHz i7 works nicely as a lap warmer. :)

[void void]

The grand tour

[coarse lily]

My old Mac Pro used to warm the room by like 15-20 degrees when it was humming along.

[vernal moth]

Well, mobile chips generally have a really small tdp

[coarse lily]

Yeah.

[void void]

Just buy amdgpu

[vernal moth]

So they are not efficient at transforming power into heat 😂

[topaz mortar]

Aren't Bulldozer inefficient? The real one?

[vernal moth]

Yes

[coarse lily]

. . . what

[vernal moth]

Horribly inefficient

[untold copper]

i am

[void void]

Amdgpu gets real hot trust me

That's why i don't buy it

[vernal moth]

Which is why the name for the cpu lineup was so nice 😂

It's the cpu amd lost a lawsuit over, because it was advertised as the world's first 8 core consumer cpu

[topaz mortar]

Had a FX6100 back then coming from a Intel Q6600. 6 Cores felt slower than my 4 cores before.

[coarse lily]

Which one is that?

[vernal moth]

When it was actually more like 4 full cores plus 4 half cores

[void void]

Like the 5700XT with a single fan explodes

[vernal moth]

Because two cores shared one apu or smth

Fx 8350 black edition

[coarse lily]

Ah yeah The "FX"

[vernal moth]

Yeah, that was the bulldozer lineup

Good cpu if you wanna go insane overclocking

[merry talon]

I still have my 8350 somewhere

[vernal moth]

Iirc ppl got that thing to well above 8ghz

My 8350 still lives and runs, at a friend's sons pc

[topaz mortar]

And good cpu in Winter if your room has one radiator missing.

[vernal moth]

https://youtu.be/rdLJu9AQOng

[coarse lily]

Ha

[vernal moth]

Heck, I'll still overclock it

Ppl*

[coarse lily]

Is that liquid nitrogen cooled?

[vernal moth]

Of course

[visual egret]

8.1GHz?

2b2t could do with that cpu

[vernal moth]

No

[coarse lily]

I do love me some LN2

[vernal moth]

It's still horribly slow compared to modern tech

[coarse lily]

Made ice cream with it once back in the day.

[vernal moth]

This is a 8 year old cpu after all

[coarse lily]

8 year old CPUs need love, too.

[vernal moth]

Which is what that vid is ^^

[coarse lily]

I have a soft spot for old hardware.

[vernal moth]

I have a soft spot for LN2

[coarse lily]

:)

[untold copper]

soo

wyd today

[potent fossil]

[woven otter]

Thanks. Runescape has such a nice music. Orchestral pieces from RS3 are amazing as well

Two of my favorites
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKtIq92TCGQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaf3yuv4RfU

[twin lagoon]

sea shanty 2 is best

[woven otter]

sea shanty 2 is epic

[twin lagoon]

https://youtu.be/BJhF0L7pfo8

[worn ember]

I used to think it was run scape

But you seem to stand afk most of the time tho

[limpid comet]

gooooood morning night city!!!

[potent warren]

This might've been asked here before, but what do y'all think about Premium Plugins as a Subscriptions (I guess we can call it PPaaS)

[twin lagoon]

no

[potent warren]

wdym no?

I'm not the one making it, dw

[limber knot]

Premium plugins that you have to spend monthly in order to work?

[potent warren]

apparently, yes

[visual egret]

i hate monthly payments, especially when they arent required

[potent warren]

I saw someone doing that

[potent warren]

yep, me too

[limber knot]

While it makes sense on some level I think it's absurd in this context given that there are plenty of (free) open source projects that are kindof decent at their task

[visual egret]

if its a world backup service or something, a monthly payment makes sense

if its a chatcontrol plugin, no

[limber knot]

It also depends on how much maintenance is put into the plugin

[visual egret]

^

[limber knot]

There are a few instances where a subscription isn't really needed but given that it requires enormous amounts of work to keep a project updated (for example anticheats) it makes sense since you are also "buying" the rights to updates

[woven otter]

pay for support might be better tbh

[visual egret]

agreed, but i should be able to purchase an LTS version of a plugin too

if i dont want to pay a subscription

[ancient bolt]

New repo added to paper's GitHub org https://github.com/PaperMC/paperweight

[limber knot]

I think it should be more seen as a right to updates

[visual egret]

hmm

no description

[limber knot]

what is that new repo for?

[visual egret]

is there a database for storing a single object

[mossy vessel]

New repo added to paper's GitHub org
New repo yall have to star

[twin lagoon]

nmf uwu

[visual egret]

im making an API for my MOTD and want some way to read/write to it

[worn ember]

That's nice

[visual egret]

im starring the project even though i dont know what it is

:)

[woven otter]

You are nice too

[worn ember]

Thanks I'm a very nice person

[visual egret]

wait

kotlin

[worn ember]

unstar

[visual egret]

🖱️

*click*

jk hopefully its a good project

[limpid comet]

hopefully?

paperweight is awesome

[visual egret]

i have no idea what it is

[limpid comet]

u think mini and demon would sink stupid amounts of man-hours into something if it wasn't awesome

[worn ember]

Does this mean paper weights have wifi now?

[limpid comet]

oh wait

Paperweight is on the main org now?

[visual egret]

well i still have no idea what it is

[limpid comet]

[visual egret]

no description

[limpid comet]

u r too young to know

maybe when ur older

[visual egret]

smh

[worn ember]

It's for making adult films

[woven otter]

I think that means paper gradle is slowly becoming a reality

[limber knot]

oh no

[limpid comet]

paper gradle will be so ppg

pog

[woven otter]

well is closer to release

[limpid comet]

i had to install yucky maven today!!!! to build paper!!!

[worn ember]

Goddammit now I'ma have to learn gradle too

[woven otter]

maven is yucky indeed

[limpid comet]

ok im gonna go fulfil my nicotine addiction brb

[meager tusk]

[meager tusk]

ain't gonna stack jack shit if you run a 1.8 server

[vernal moth]

Paperweight is basically the future of paper and all forks of it

[limpid comet]

mini im glad to see paperweight has graduated into main org status

so proud

[topaz mortar]

Is Paperweight ready to be integrated into the 1.17 process.

Will there be a gradle profile to skip reobfuscation?

[limber knot]

why would one skip reobfuscation?

[twin lagoon]

i don't want reobfuscation either

[topaz mortar]

Custom plugins that usinz Mojang Mappings already

[twin lagoon]

why reobfuscate when you don't use any public plugins

[worn ember]

why compile when you don't use any plugins

[limber knot]

You can make use of the mojang mappings?

[twin lagoon]

yes?

[limber knot]

How does that work?

[twin lagoon]

ysl uses toothpick iirc

[worn ember]

ya'll come up with the weirdest names i swear

[ancient bolt]

paperweight is very very close to completion

The final things we have now fall into the "bug fixes and stability improvements" category basically

[topaz mortar]

Yeah 😆

[ancient bolt]

It's also a culmination of a considerable amount of work and some mind bending complexity so that's fun

[sand epoch]

what's paperweight?

[ancient bolt]

Build tool for paper's future

[sand epoch]

😮

[limber knot]

So are the mappings applied at buildtime, runtime or never?

[ancient bolt]

It's a Gradle plugin

Mappings are applied to the source code

[limpid comet]

Yay demon

[limber knot]

Oh, we are talking about two different things

[ancient bolt]

Sure, just don't run that task

[topaz mortar]

And minis Toothpick fork was the poc I guess

[ancient bolt]

Actually no

PaperMCP and papergradle predate toothpick

I just sort of took an extended break from working on it when I got burned out

Like a year and a half or something like that lol

[potent warren]

Wait so, how easy will it be to make a fork with paperweight with Paper as upstream, or a Paper fork as upstream?

[topaz mortar]

As easy as before.

[ancient bolt]

Shouldn't be hard

[vernal moth]

Easier than before I would say

Since I envision paperweight to handle everything for you

No more bash scripts

[ancient bolt]

paperweight will do the heavy lifting still, but this time you'll have nice mappings to work with

[topaz mortar]

Is the issue ironed out we had with toothpick and the order of the patches? Keyword File#listFiles() ?

Mini

[ancient bolt]

exactly how that'll all work we haven't figured out yet - thats a problem for later

[potent warren]

wait so, how would one make a Paper fork right now? got any example projects?

[ancient bolt]

But based on what we have I see no reason for it to be hard

Yeah there's lots of forks

[potent warren]

no

with Paperweight that is

[vernal moth]

Paperweight doesn't share any code with toothpick yannick

Well, other than the libs of course

[ancient bolt]

paperweight isn't deployed yet, so no server is using it, so no there are none with forks yet lol

[potent warren]

I'm not the brightest one so making a fork of a Paper fork isn't the easiest task for me to tackle :p

[topaz mortar]

So, no file iteration for git apply?

[ancient bolt]

I'll be honest I actually haven't seen toothpick lol

Only heard of it

[vernal moth]

https://github.com/PaperMC/paperweight/blob/main/src/main/kotlin/tasks/ApplyGitPatches.kt#L105

[topaz mortar]

It's easy if you have a template. Electronic boy has a good template for your on fork.

[vernal moth]

Toothpick is paperweight without patch remapping and horrible handling of mapping merge and written by a dude with no prior gradle experices as a Gradle build src

[topaz mortar]

line 105 is the one that solves the problem.

[ancient bolt]

Yeah the 2 things paperweight does which sets it apart from anything that's come before is the mappings generation - I try to cover every possible edge case to produce perfect mappings, and they are very very close but not perfect and that hurts me.

But the second thing is patch remapping, that is something unique to paperweight

Every time I think the mappings are perfect some new edge case pops up

It's so frustrating

[potent warren]

I deal with projects like that sometimes.. it's super annoying to say the least

[golden gust]

I mean, a fair % of what I've seen wouldn't be issues if it wasn't for our loving upstream companions

[worn ember]

yeah cat, why did you fork spigot in the first place smh smh

[golden gust]

wasn't me, I blame Z

[potent warren]

once you do a hard fork, how will Paper handle updates to the Bukkit API?

[ancient bolt]

Yeah something like 100%....

Specialsource2 is the cause of most of the stress in my life right now

It's very bad code, no wonder it's closed source

[topaz mortar]

md_sauce

[ancient bolt]

Still I've managed to generate mappings which almost perfectly matches specialsource2's fucking up of the bytecode

Not quite perfect yet tho

[vernal moth]

Don't forget, toothpick is the product of a drunk weekend, paperweight is hundrets of hours

[twin lagoon]

hundreds of drunk hours

[topaz mortar]

Are CraftBukkit and Spigot commits/patches remapped as well to allow to be applied on 1.17 mojang mappings directly? So stop waiting for md

[golden gust]

the nature of a hard fork means that we wouldn't handle updates from bukkits API

[ancient bolt]

Most of the drunken work on paperweight was in the remapping of patches in fairness

/me doesn't drink

[twin lagoon]

boring

[golden gust]

can't even slash-me

Yea, totes not drunk

❤️

[ancient bolt]

Mini has some ideas on how to do that

Basically squashing all of CB and Spigot into a single set of patches, on mojang mappings, and applying that on top of a snapshot also mojmapped

Idea there being since mojang mappings are so much more stable, they might apply a lot easier

I guess /me doesn't work on mobile idk

[limpid comet]

do you guys think you're prepared to not rely on upstream's updates?

[ancient bolt]

Not yet

We need tooling that will allow us to transition off of spigots tooling, paperweight allows that. And we need our own repository for plugins so people come to us for plugins instead of spigot, hangar gives us fhat

[limpid comet]

right

[topaz mortar]

Sounds awesome. Yeah we had the stable experience with mojang mappings with Toothpick already. Not many "NMS" plugins needed to be touched.
Patches process is improved as well.

[limpid comet]

in terms of people working on the project though, i assume you guys are prepared for handling stuff like major updates (say 1.16->1.17)

[ancient bolt]

It's harder to update paper than it is to update CB and Spigot

[vernal moth]

I started on that, i got a task that generates spigot to vanilla diff

[ancient bolt]

We have more patches in paper alone lol

[vernal moth]

But it has bunch of var changes so I stopped

So i want to hold up on that till I can look at local var stuff

[limpid comet]

i see

[ancient bolt]

Yeah we need to get that nailed down. Maybe I can start on that tomorrow since Christmas will be over

[limpid comet]

well that's good to hear, super excited to see where paperweight takes the project

[vernal moth]

I was hoping to have a look today, but doesn't look good, tomorrow I also have no time, after that should be better again

[potent warren]

by having Paper rely on yarn/mojmap for the names, you'll be able to update faster than Spigot, right?

[ancient bolt]

Unlikely

[woven otter]

cat you will have to update byof to paperweight 🙂

[golden gust]

I mean, we can't promise on timeframes, we're more open to breaking stuff like APIs than spending weeks doing shit like Commodore

[ancient bolt]

Again, we have more patches than spigot, and many of them are bigger so they are harder to update

[golden gust]

But, the process will be more open than spigot, and stuff like ^, so 🤷‍♂️

[limpid comet]

how do you even begin the update process

is it basically apply patches to the update, and see what breaks?

[ancient bolt]

Change your version numbers so the new jar and mappings is downloaded, generate new mappings accordingly, start to apply patches

When it fails, fix and continue

[limpid comet]

i see

do you guys have any unit tests or something

[ancient bolt]

Bukkit has unit tests but they don't do much

[golden gust]

90% of the code is mapped and not ours, so, not really

[limpid comet]

sounds like a major pita

but you guys are certainly doing god's work

[potent warren]

how will paperclip deal with mojmaps? aren't you including the names in the binary patches?

[golden gust]

I mean, I've been meaning to look into basically rewriting byof already, so... 🤷‍♂️

[ancient bolt]

Well 1.16 was like a 72 hour non-stop process, where someone would work on updating the patches until they got tired, then pass it off to someone else in a different time zone to pick up where they left off

[limpid comet]

wow

sounds badass tbh

[twin lagoon]

it was great

money was being thrown around

pizzas were sent

[ancient bolt]

Unrelated and not relevant. Paperclip won't change

[woven otter]

paper update streams when

[minor badge]

we had that not too long ago, quac

[ancient bolt]

It was a real highlight of our community

[minor badge]

1.16.4 was done in an hour or something

[limpid comet]

i wanna be there for the next one

also proxi hi

[minor badge]

it was only me and mini but :')

[limpid comet]

i got nitro

[twin lagoon]

proxi

[minor badge]

[limpid comet]

now i can truly express myself

[ancient bolt]

1.17 promises to be a chonky release, don't worry

[limpid comet]

i will be there to provide moral support

[potent warren]

custom server blocks without resource pack tricks when

[golden gust]

and I will be there to make blue cry

[limpid comet]

ok nvm not coming

[golden gust]

Well, that's what mojangs working towards

[limpid comet]

lol i just had a guy dm me out of the blue asking "how can i add custom blocks"

[untold copper]

there's a plugin i saw lemme send

[golden gust]

craftbukkit is likely gonna disable that, however

😄

[limpid comet]

no, snoopa, it's not a custom block

its just reskinned mushrooms

[potent warren]

don't. ^

[untold copper]

lol ok

[limpid comet]

you know, my end goal is to become smart enough to rewrite whatever needs to be rewritten so custom dimensions support is a thing

[untold copper]

how do you add custom blocks without mods

[limpid comet]

you don't

[twin lagoon]

reskin mushrooms

[ancient bolt]

It's hard to explain how much easier updating will be on mojmap. When you're trying to figure out what a patch was originally trying to do and it calls 5 different methods all named a, that can be an adventure finding the new methods

[untold copper]

oh

[twin lagoon]

[untold copper]

wht

[limpid comet]

you can indeed reskin mushrooms but those aren't custom blocks

[ancient bolt]

When we're on mojmap so much of that complexity will disappear

[woven otter]

armorstands

[twin lagoon]

well they are custom blocks

[untold copper]

lol no kekw

[untold copper]

l ag

[limpid comet]

to the end user they are but mushrooms are way more limited than a supposed custom block implementation

you have what, 191 blocks iirc?

cringe!

[twin lagoon]

there's more than just mushrooms

[golden gust]

Yea, that's one of the horrors of updates

[twin lagoon]

you can have like ~1000 custom blocks

[golden gust]

is that you can be working on something and steaming along, 20 patches in the space of 10 minutes type deal

and then you end up with some unmapped variable changing, or a method moving somewhere else, and now you gotta shuffle around an obfuscated mess try work out where the fuck it went or if it's even still there

(That's why we can be bastards about obfhelpers and min-diff)

[vernal moth]

One Potential benefit of mojmap is that we could work on updating before spigot releases. But it's unknown if that's is possible and if that brings any benefits

[golden gust]

Until we hardfork, no

[vernal moth]

The real benefit we will get it we drop upstream

[golden gust]

otherwise we'd both be tryna deal with the same issues and a fair chunk of our work would likely disappear

Not really worth investing time that's already gonna be thrown out the window

[mental meadow]

snapshot builds would be awesome tho

[topaz mortar]

Mojang pls. Why not adding the possibility to render resourcepack custom block by default.

resourcePack: mycustom:parcel_block

intercept chunk packet and state stone["custom":"mycustom:parcel_block"] with mycustom:parcel_block

[twin lagoon]

awawa

[ancient bolt]

If patches only touch classes spigot doesn't touch we could...those aren't the patches that take a long time tho

[golden gust]

^^

The real beauty is when we hardfork

[mental meadow]

michael :3

[limpid comet]

ideally you wouldn't have to say stone it would just actually be a custom block

[potent warren]

weren't we looking into making a mod to help with this? 👀

[ancient bolt]

Someone go sneak another beer in mini's pocket so he get hanger done

[limpid comet]

yea mini wtf

[golden gust]

We won't offer snapshot builds, nor is there any form of guarantee that we'll properly track them, but, we likely will under a "you try to compile this you're on your own" type deal

[limpid comet]

does mini have gh sponsors?

i assume he does

[twin lagoon]

i sponsored mini $5 yesterday

hangar wen

[limpid comet]

ill do the same

[topaz mortar]

cough yeah cough but native support for that would be a lot better.

[vernal moth]

Hangar is in a weird state where whenever I want to work on it, i don't really know what I wanna do i and get frustrated and do smth else, lol

[potent warren]

true. I still have to bully @woven otter into helping us

[minor badge]

sounds like ban, mini

[vernal moth]

Somebody wanna be my project manager? 😂

[ancient bolt]

Probably the weirdest thing we'll need to figure out with hard forking is what exactly we do with all of the existing CB and Spigot patches

[limpid comet]

ok mini i gave u money now hangar wen

[minor badge]

demon becomes paper scrum master wen

[limpid comet]

mroeo like scrub master

[vernal moth]

Drop bukkit patches, drop cp patches, per file patches for api impl, per feature patches for bigger stuff

That's my dream

[woven otter]

If I beat procrastination you might be in luck 😉

[ancient bolt]

I'll probably jump on hangar at some point once paperweight is coasting probably

God my favorite thing about my team ta work is we don't take scrum that seriously

[untold copper]

how does

why does

mushrooms

...

[twin lagoon]

blockstates

[ancient bolt]

We do sprints just to have a snapshot of work for what we're focuses on working on at that time, but we don't waste time pointing tasks or all of those pointless scrum meetings

[limber knot]

You are going insance

[twin lagoon]

use any block that has a lot of unused blockstates

[untold copper]

OOH

LIKE

[limpid comet]

mushroom blocks are convenient since they have like 7349982 different block states that nobody cares about

[untold copper]

terracotta

[twin lagoon]

no

[limpid comet]

no

[untold copper]

sacrifise a blockstate

[limpid comet]

[untold copper]

[twin lagoon]

no

[limpid comet]

no u aren't the one kekwing here

[untold copper]

.g how many blockstatese does mushroom have mincecraf

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Mushroom

[limpid comet]

pls dont .g for that

u can search that urself very easily

[twin lagoon]

you'd want mushroom blocks

[vernal moth]

If my boss could see that I just asked for a project manager he would jump thru the roof

[limpid comet]

why mini, give us the lore

[untold copper]

so mushroom blocks just have a lot of unused blockstates

[ancient bolt]

Devs never like PMs

[untold copper]

you can use plugins to modify them like add your own textures, commands, drops, etc

right?

[golden gust]

Why I live in perma-DND

Being distracted when you're 20 methods deep in some shit is not fun

[limpid comet]

plugins don't add textures, but sure, that's the idea

lol yea same

i find discord way too distracting

[untold copper]

even im in perma dnd

mostly because my mom loses it when someone calls me and it rings on her phone as well

[limpid comet]

...your mom has your discord on her phone?

[untold copper]

yeah

[limpid comet]

why?

oh

right you're 12

[untold copper]

or had for a while

[potent fossil]

[untold copper]

before phone got yeeted

now I can be not perma dnd

but its better this way 😔

[limpid comet]

mom got the secret discord ringtone

[mossy vessel]

simple

[potent fossil]

nmf

[untold copper]

I see why this works

[potent fossil]

what

[twin lagoon]

what

[limpid comet]

he just discovered """custom blocks"""

[twin lagoon]

@mossy vessel uwu

[mossy vessel]

[untold copper]

yez its cool

[twin lagoon]

well they're still custom blocks

just with a few limitations

[untold copper]

limitations like?

[limpid comet]

they're just reskinned preexisting blocks

custom blocks would be actual new blocks

[twin lagoon]

pre-existing blocks that aren't used

[limpid comet]

i guess that's up to interpretation though ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[twin lagoon]

because of it being a reskin of existing blocks, the original block ID still shows in f3 + h

making mods not recognize it

[limpid comet]

yea and you can't just do /give bluely bluecraft:poop_block

[twin lagoon]

and you'd need a lot of serverside magic to do it

[limpid comet]

well i mean

[twin lagoon]

well you can but you'd again need serverside magic

[limpid comet]

if you had a plugin

yea

[twin lagoon]

it's not ideal but it works

[untold copper]

interesting

[limpid comet]

but it would be much nicer if it was native and we didn't have to deal with this bullshit

[untold copper]

10 reasons why mods are just better

[limpid comet]

data driven blocks pog!

[untold copper]

how do mods do it then?

[twin lagoon]

they're mods

they can do whatever

[untold copper]

love the way you put that

k bai

[minor badge]

if i can do whatever, i shall ban michale

[limpid comet]

i mean he's right

how else would you put it

[minor badge]

[twin lagoon]

wtf

[olive marlin]

Michael

[twin lagoon]

bloodstone

[vernal moth]

Demon was talking about project managers, not private messages ^^

[vernal moth]

At work i am always the dude who is ontop of everything that needs to be done and what order, i got that all in my head, so if some PM or whatever comes along, most of the time a contractor who has no clue about company not project, and they want me to write post it's and shit, when my of the work is already in jira, because it's easier to visualize (!!!) I just refuse to ever work with them

My boss knows that, respects that and let me be, but he sure doesn't enjoy it because others get angry at me (clients), and he has to have my back 😂

She I say clients, i mean marketing team or whatever, no 3rd party

[vestal jasper]

Ban me

[void void]

no u

[potent fossil]

wat

.lart vic

[limber knot]

hands vic a poison ivy joint.

[woven otter]

@​mods

[vestal jasper]

Oof

[golden gust]

?ban @vestal jasper

Fuck, I forgot to...

"I've always been waiting to do this"

[woven otter]

.rekt

yes thanks

[minor badge]

.lart ducc

[limber knot]

jabs a hot lighter into ducc's eye sockets.

[woven otter]

wtf wtf wtf

[viral hornet]

@quasi valley hello GOOD MORNING I hope it's snowing today?????????????????????

[waxen panther]

camm moment

[viral hornet]

brocc

I realised it was 12am and ihadn't wished kenny a good morn yet

[mental meadow]

good morning awa

[visual egret]

hiii

[warm anchor]

Good morning to you too

[mossy vessel]

Does it even snow in upsidedownistan?

[vernal moth]

https://photos.app.goo.gl/mDKSfLTxZuykor2cA

My friends believe that's me in 50 years, playing the shell game, if you win you get to drink the bottle 😂

[quasi valley]

no

[visual egret]

smh

the port is open

i got no idea what im doing wrong

[mossy vessel]

eeee https://i.imgur.com/rGgKuEK.png

[visual egret]

wait some guy from british gas came over and did something with my router

ffs if he changed my ip or something ill be mad

[vernal moth]

Wat

[potent fossil]

what kind of weird hellhole timeline are you in rn oskar

[warm anchor]

Wait wut

[limpid comet]

LOL

oskar is living in another reality

[warm anchor]

Oskar are you high

[visual egret]

what

no

[worn ember]

a yes i hate when the gas guy messes with the router

[potent fossil]

im high as hell rn

[limpid comet]

what

[vernal moth]

Check again

[warm anchor]

???

[limpid comet]

why the fuck would you let some random gas guy install anything in your house???

[worn ember]

you have a smart ip now

[warm anchor]

I am even more confused the more Oskar talk today

[limpid comet]

yea today especially

[mossy vessel]

Yee it's loading

[visual egret]

well we now have a way to control the heat in our house

remotley

[cunning raft]

ok

[mossy vessel]

So you can burn it from abroad

[cunning raft]

pog ^

[worn ember]

we just made our own domotica system to control everything from a central screen

[warm anchor]

@visual egret so your gas company install Nest in your house?

[limpid comet]

why would smart home have anything to do with the router other than wifi connection

tf?

[worn ember]

ur part of the hive now

[warm anchor]

So bootleg nest or some shit they pushing?

[limpid comet]

welcome to the botnet oskar

[worn ember]

better produce earwax

[visual egret]

ya ok so my ip changed great

[warm anchor]

Why would it

Wut

[mossy vessel]

"Installing" my smart home was plugging the bridge into the router and that's it lol

[cunning raft]

nobody can change your ip unless you restart your modem/router

[waxen panther]

4weird

[limpid comet]

i guess dynamic ips are a thing

[warm anchor]

That’s why we are all confused

[limpid comet]

luckily mine are mostly static (only had it change once in the past five years)

[cunning raft]

even then you usually need to change your mac address on your router

[visual egret]

same but apparently that changed my ip or something

[limpid comet]

oskar u 4weird

[visual egret]

or it was that power cut that he caused the day before

[worn ember]

mine changes every couple days

[limpid comet]

pain

[warm anchor]

Oskar you weird

[cunning raft]

ur loss

dynamic ips are great

[worn ember]

if i get ddossed its not my problem after a day

[cunning raft]

not even