those are best left to real humans
#general
potent fossil
olive patio
"killing with a hit" isnt possible in java edition, is it? ive never experienced something like this
its probably some special item
potent fossil
i have no idea, im not educated on what hacks there are for mc
Mr Sulu, phaser banks on standby.
wraith trail
yeah that's not something the client controls. Not sure what he is on about
eternal widget
"killing with a hit" isnt possible in java edition, is it? ive never experienced...
yes, java
olive patio
like sulu said, that's not something the client controls
potent fossil
sounds like an enchanted weapon or something lol
eternal widget
noup, hands
warm anchor
Sounds like someone got OP in his server and make high enchantment level weapon
wraith trail
does anyone have creative mode?
olive patio
someone has op and gave high level strength then
warm anchor
Then he modify the strength then
wraith trail
because then the client controls everything
eternal widget
none of that, the user entered only that, registered, started tepearse without having op, with direct tp, and kill with 1 hit
wraith trail
(still not damage given by hit, but can give themselves strength etc.)
warm anchor
The only thing in hack client is kill aura but that’s just spam clicking
Wont do any more damage than bare hand
olive patio
direct tp is not possible either
warm anchor
Like I said sounds like the person got OP
olive patio
you can only move up to 8 blocks per position packet and the server glitches you back
warm anchor
Not really a hack
eternal widget
whatever you say, I know what I saw
warm anchor
I am not sure if you really know what you saw either but ok 
eternal widget
I didn't have it, only I have op and only I am an administrator
wraith trail
someone has higher access if thats what you saw. That is not something that can be accomplished in the way you describe
it's just not technically feasible
warm anchor
This is some matrix bullshit right there.
eternal widget
It is my server and no one else is on it but me, the user directly tepeed the others, killing with his hand with a simple blow
warm anchor
Plugin?
eternal widget
?
warm anchor
Maybe you got something from darkspigot 
potent fossil
offline mode?
warm anchor
^ could be too
eternal widget
Maybe you got something from darkspigot <:Pepega:522627101845880852>
no
eternal widget
offline mode?
no
potent fossil
cracked plugins?
potent fossil
this is not a client-side hack so it's something else
hands down
client-side is not in the question
warm anchor
Bought =/= legit
potent fossil
so you need to look somewhere else
warm anchor
Where did you buy those
eternal widget
spigot
warm anchor
There’s times where such plugin does get pass the filter. Inb4 force OP plugin
wraith trail
One hitting things is not possible in vanilla no matter what the client sends unless they have something done server side (effect, enchantment or the like). Moving quickly is, as that's something the client controls.
eternal widget
I don't use anything weird, everything used is well recognized.
waxen panther
pl ?
warm anchor
I wanna see this magic
eternal widget
this person had nothing but a starter kit sword, and he didn't even use it, he used his hands
warm anchor
waxen panther
plugin list
mighty storm
😢
warm anchor
@waxen panther let’s go in his server now. We show him real hacker man
mighty storm
:( cus CMI but :D cus geyser
eternal widget
?
spiral robin
curious what hamsterapi is 
woven otter
boink
unique snow
Did someone say Open Sauce?
mighty storm
open sauce is 😍
unique snow
mighty storm
if it's not open source it's not gonna be used by me :x
warm anchor
Is clearLagg open source?
mighty storm
that is an exception, regardless of whether it is i dont want it
unique snow
Didn't know Discord was open source 😉
limber knotBOT
dumcord dum
mighty storm
stolen from slack ofc butu still pretty pog
unique snow
Wonder how long till a lib supports it
mighty storm
"very excited to tell everyoen we are once again uncreative!"
limber knotBOT
dum
waxen panther
probably awhile for the js and java libs sadly
limber knotBOT
who needs commands wen korobi and xd still serve u down there
waxen panther
the rust one was probably updated for slash commands 7 months ago before discord even started working on it
mighty storm
thankfully you dont even need a lib for it, just webhook back and forth
unique snow
Oh of course
limber knotBOT
James were u the duplicati fanboy or something cuz I was havin issues with it yesterday
mighty storm
going to add /rory as fast as possible
unique snow
Nah I don't use duplicati
mighty storm
i mean what is the point of normal commands when slash commands exist now hm
unique snow
I use k8s, stateless ❤️ but not really
Why not support both? If you design your bot correctly should easily be possible.
limber knotBOT
oh, some other james
unique snow
Without a whole lot of extra code too
waxen panther
Americans that prefer imperial annoy me
upper flicker
plays the imperial march
waxen panther
NO
cunning raft
ok
your system requires fucking 15 decimals to just describe one increment in our system
waxen panther
dumroy
upper flicker
oh boy
wraith trail
if you use that logic imperial takes a fraction or decimal (it's not even consistent) to show anything in metric
peak ginkgo
Why not support both? If you design your bot correctly should easily be possible...
I don't use discord.py for my Python bot and this is EXACTLY the goal
To just add it to the annotation builder for commands
Doing it at a library level
placid thicket
i understand it is beyond the scope of this discord, but any idea how to make 1.12 modded servers run less ass? two players walking in opposite directions makes the game almost unplayable
unique snow
I don't use discord.py for my Python bot and this is EXACTLY the goal
Yeah as long as your methods/functions are relatively reusable there's no reason why they can't be used for both.
With good decorator functions you'll be able to do it in python pretty easy
coarse lily
i understand it is beyond the scope of this discord, but any idea how to make 1....
Complicated question. Isolate what the issue is first. Is it one particular plugin? Is the system underpowered? Have you tried performance adjustments?
placid thicket
its running with a 99k and 12gb ram on an ssd under windows. seems to be mostly a chunk gen issue, but forceloading isn't practical due to the nature of modded
untold copper
pregen chunks
unique snow
You'll get a lot of benefit in that area from using Linux tbh. Or yea you could pregen.
potent fossil
God damn Python. Just wasted an hour of my life debugging why openrazer wouldn't mf work, and it's because it was cached to use python3.8 which got upgraded and it didn't realize it by itself :'(
placid thicket
i have my windows pc with a 99k or a Linux box with a very much older CPU, i don't have money to rent anything substantial
potent fossil
TIL have to manually upgrade packages that depend on python3.8 lmao
placid thicket
you cant really pregen chunks on a server with 14+ worlds. i dont have that kind of hdd space or processing time
limpid comet
dont worry simple
i've had that happen so many times
deevlopment with python is hell
coarse lily
you cant really pregen chunks on a server with 14+ worlds. i dont have that kind...
I think you need to be realistic about your options. You're running a server on a Windows home PC. If you don't have the ability to be pre-genning worlds then you shouldn't be running 14 worlds.
Everything's a compromise. Fast, cheap, lots of features - pick two.
placid thicket
i miss 1.8 where you didn't need a Nasa super computer and a degree to play with 2 friends
coarse lily
Going from 1.8 to 1.12 should have no impact on a 2 person world.
placid thicket
wanna join mine and say that again?
waxen panther
modded is 
coarse lily
What I'm saying is that if you're having issues it isn't a 1.12 thing.
It's your plugins, configuration, or setup.
waxen panther
they have a modded server, everything is fucked
placid thicket
modded means forge, which is why i said it was beyond scope when asking for help
waxen panther
dont expect to run modded servers with more than a few players tbqh
it's not worth it, spongeforge is better in some areas but is also behind atm
placid thicket
literally 2. just 2, walking in opposite directions in the overworld makes block lag unbearable
coarse lily
The best advice I can give is to strip out some of the mods/stuff.
Get it down to the basics and test. Start adding stuff until it's hosed.
coarse lily
But also pregen worlds.
placid thicket
also not possible with pre-built quest based modpacks
coarse lily
Even on vanilla terrain gen is a pain in the ass.
placid thicket
yes, its currently the only viable option
limpid comet
coarse lily
Oof
waxen panther
yea... good luck
limpid comet
that's gonna be your problem lol
coarse lily
That's not gonna work well at all.
waxen panther
whats your specs too
limpid comet
never had that end well i tell ya
placid thicket
big computer spec dump
limpid comet
no
placid thicket
well it was that or copy the same thing into ubuntupaste and lose formatting on a few hundred lines of text
what exactly do you want from specs?
waxen panther
It's readable
coarse lily
CPU, RAM, HD setup.
waxen panther
Windows isn't great for hosting and although a 9900k is a great cpu it's not a amazing cpu for mc
I would expect it to be enough for 2p layers though
must be a scuffed modpack
coarse lily
Yeah.
placid thicket
literally any modpack 1.12+ has that quality unfortunatly
coarse lily
Or the running the server on the same box as client thing.
waxen panther
try a forge server with no mods
unique snow
Sounded like he was to me
placid thicket
i mean sevtech requires 12gb+ of ram to launch, bonus if you want to run a server too
limpid comet
sevtech is a monster
limpid comet
your issue is that you're running both the server and the client on the same machine
placid thicket
running MC eternal atm
limpid comet
both of those are gonna be hitting your machine hard, doesn't matter the specs
especially with minecraft
placid thicket
32gb
coarse lily
And how much are you feeding into MC and the server jar?
You said sevtech needs 12GB by itself so what're your startup flags for the server? Surely more than 12GB.
placid thicket
12 and 8 respectively
limpid comet
server would probably need less
since it's not doing texture stuff
i guess trying to allocate more wouldn't hurt
placid thicket
was running mc eternal, which is lighter than sev tech
coarse lily
Yeah.
waxen panther
I would still call it extremely heavy
coarse lily
If it were the same hardware running Linux and the clients were both on different machines you should see better performance.
woven otter
partyrealms modded server when
limpid comet
you'd definitely see a bit more performance on linux but honestly doing both on any OS will fuck your system
waxen panther
the mc community truly will be forever changed with party realms
waxen panther
ya
coarse lily
Tags plugins are the new randomtp plugins.
limpid comet
hahahaaahhahaaaah > new
im making a random tp plugin right now
it's gonna be the best one ever though unironically
brocc go look in my server's quantum channel my plan is incredible
use both
command to add permissions to users
both tho
definitely use luckperms
merry talon
yeah mc eternal is just ungodly to run
woven otter
@worn ember make a randomtag plugin. 🙂
waxen panther
I have the power of overengineering & java on my side
tell that to my user pipeline
coarse lily
Oh there's always a way.
woven otter
power of green smelly vegetable vs one party boi
waxen panther
overengineering .
5 mb .
nvm actually you're using kotlin
it's probably already 25 mb
limpid comet
cant wait for tags to support multi-proxy loadbalancing and serverless framework
and tagscoin cryptocurrency
waxen panther
It'll happen blue
limpid comet
any other buzzwords or did i get em
woven otter
it better be async
limpid comet
im going to asynchrnously defenestrate you
waxen panther
fr though i am overenginering, this is my excuse to learn guice
also jdbi is thick
woven otter
pls optimize
coarse lily
Is there anything that compiles to Kotlin?
Then you can write in somehting that compiles to Kotlin that compiles to Java that compiles.
woven otter
Is there anything that compiles to Kotlin?
human neural activity probably
coarse lily
Haha
limpid comet
yes
now u see why i tell u to use permissions every tim eu bring it up
- if you ever decide to migrate to someting else down the line, all the userdata is stored in permissions so it'll all carry over ez
limpid comet
fml
just spent the past 20 minuntes trying to debug an error with guice
i was missing a @Provides on one of my modules
coarse lily
Doh!
I was doing four things at once earlier and kept trying to fix an error that was because I was missing a /
=path/to/thing instead of
=/path/to/thing
limpid comet
its always the little small things that are the hardest to debug
brocc converted my startcraft thing to TS and he changed dist to bist by accident and it took me like 12 hours to figure out why npm was erroring
what a dum dum amiirite
coarse lily
Haha
I grabbed the source of a plugin that I know is run on paper. Is there any reason it would be built against the spigot jar and not paper?
limpid comet
so it supports spigot and paper
you can build it on paper just fine
er, should be able to, at least
99.999% of the time you'll be fine
coarse lily
That’s what I was thinking.
Couldn’t think of why you’d build against spigot but figured it was worth asking.
So far my biggest uphill challenge has been maven.
I’m apparently garbage at maven. And dependency shit keeps taking forever to resolve.
I’m thinking maybe it was on spigot before and they didn’t update it.
Haha
limpid comet
you can still support spigot while building paper, just need to not use any paper-specific APIs
coarse lily
Yeah
limpid comet
but at this point it's kind of a moot point since paper is at >60% marketshare
(also, PaperLib exists)
coarse lily
Maybe I’ll submit a PR to them to correct the paper dependency. :)
coarse lily
Yeah
limpid comet
pls hangar
limpid comet
we need to start a mini beer fund
vestal jasper
Imagine being green
limpid comet
imagine being not blue
coarse lily
Imagine going choo choo
untold copper
Imagine being poo poo
limpid comet
it's eye-opening how much faster paper is than the vanilla server
i've ran a few of both when developing startcraft, and wow
limpid comet
lol honestly
but even startup times
vanilla server would take 10 seconds to even print something to the cnosole
paper is, well, you all know how much faster it is
yeah
it's ridiculous
good job paper team
untold copper
i've ran a few of both when developing startcraft, and wow
whats startcraft o.O
untold copper
CLI is...?
untold copper
ohhh
untold copper
So how does one download/use this
limpid comet
its not on the npm package registry yet, so you'll need to clone the repo and npm install
untold copper
...
limpid comet
and npm link if you wanna use it globally
untold copper
.g how to clone a repo in windows
limpid comet
..
untold copper
re
untold copper
limpid comet
npm i, npm link should (?) work
untold copper
where'd this get cloned tho
limpid comet
Cloning into 'startcraft'...
limpid comet
you're gonna need npm too, then
untold copper
kk
untold copper
yeah
spiral robin
no
vestal jasper
no
vestal jasper
or kashike
coarse urchin
a
limpid comet
you're not in the startcraft directory
cd startcraft && npm i && npm link might work
limpid comet
might run into an eacces error tho
cosmic raft
what do you want vic
limpid comet
limpid comet
oh
fk
yeah you're gonna need to grab tsc npm i -g tsc (typescript compiler), run tsc, then npm link
i should really just package this and throw it on the npm registry
something for tomorrow
limpid comet
oh
npm i -g typescript lol
sorry
probably gonna wanna npm uninstall -g tsc so it doesn't conflcit
i've really sent you on a wild goose chase here huh
limpid comet
thanks turbo i try
limber knotBOT
ppl complainin dark theme is too dark
I say, it ain't dark enuf until it's pure black
oled away
for GitHub at least
void void
Can anyone explain me why tf are my videos installing as webm
limpid comet
yes
limpid comet
and pray 2 god it worked
dont 4get to do this, very important step
void void
only applicable when you don't know what you are doing
worn pasture
if all else fails, just say fuck it and play starcraft
untold copper
only applicable when you don't know what you are doing
which is every time
void void
👀
limpid comet
this is my first time watching someone actually use startcraft in the wild
limpid comet
pogare
worn pasture
is that prompts
limpid comet
tf
void void
inb4 path hardcoded
worn pasture
whatisit
warm anchor
untold copper
I did CD to G:
limpid comet
i've never had that work
warm anchor
Windows stupid?
worn pasture
wsl smh
limpid comet
thanks
untold copper
now make this into an exe lol
worn pasture
limpid comet
definitely more to improve, there's an experimental start your server by running startcraft option but it's kinda broky
if you have any suggestions hit up https://github.com/kadenscott/startcraft/issues
limpid comet
that's the reason why i wanted to use npm
npm is usually installed everywhere
so npm i -g startcraft-cli
coarse lily
Haha
untold copper
lol f
void void
i mean you're already using node.js, not many steps away from getting it up and running on electron
:^)
limpid comet
turn freighter into an electron app
void void
technically could wrap virt-manager, gtk3 libraries w/broadway backend, qemu and freighter scripts into electron bundle yes...
or wait...
.g qemu wasm
this search query was so spooky that bot decided to die i guess
limpid comet
i hate that you even gave it thought
minor badge
@void void uwu
void void
😳
coarse lily
Woohoo compiled and works.
golden gust
next step: git gud
golden gust
coarse lily
10+ years and who the hell knows how many people messing with shit over and over. Major refactor just to make it build properly.
pip
No thanks.
golden gust
wonder if there is a go or a rust version
Heck, maybe somebody made a php one
runs
coarse lily
Haha
I had some weird PHP thing that ran on the command line.
And someone couldn't get it working.
When I told them they needed to run it on the cli they were like "You can do that with PHP?"
coarse lily
Hahaha did they?
coarse lily
That's amazing.
golden gust
oh, xD disappeared
golden gust
LAAAAAXXXX
coarse lily
lax murdered it.
visual egret
https://github.com/Spottedleaf/Tuinity looks okay, should it improve performance on my little laptop? I got 6 players registered atm, except about 10-20
lean kiln
I mean it has optimizations that will improve performance in general
but on hardware that bad idk how much difference it makes
olive patio
what is that command you ran in the second image?
lean kiln
neofetch
olive patio
never seen that before. pretty neat
spiral robin
It's hot
limpid comet
i mean if you're looking for sucking out all the perofrmance possible
ubuntu probably aint the distro
coarse lily
Haha
limpid comet
running 20 players on that will be
spiral robin
Hannah Montana Linux is good for Mc servers
limpid comet
^
coarse lily
HML is awesome isn't it?
spiral robin
Yes
limpid comet
oskar are you allergic to buying a dedi or something
a 4 core 2ghz mobile processor from over a decade ago will die
^
hell i think some can go as low as $10/mo for decent-ish-ish-ish hardware
coarse lily
Some people have $0/mo
But yeah if you have any money at all a shared host makes a lot more sense than a garbage laptop.
limpid comet
well minecraft servers aren't free lol
coarse lily
True. :)
I mean, they are if you have a free server.
I have a server in the closet over there
<-----
I could turn on.
coarse lily
But I wouldn't run it on my home network because that would suck ass.
But also yes, power.
limpid comet
if you can't scrape together $10 from a side job to grab a server then idk
coarse lily
A few of the folks who have come in here have had massively unrealistic expectations.
"This huge network has 200 players!" yeah they also throw a ton of money at their setup.
But everything's like that.
limpid comet
yep
coarse lily
If I had a dollar for every person I've talked to who wants a $10 million dollar website for $300 I'd have a lot closer to $10 million dollars than $300.
coarse lily
Big companies do the same thing. But mostly they want it in a week when it takes 2 years.
still cosmos
DemonWav: I don't have enough time ;-;
Also DemonWav: Playing BeamNG.drive
untold copper
Isn't that literally everyone here?
novel horizon
I'm thinking about a plugin which fixes grammar or answers people questions, hmm
untold copper
yes do it
novel horizon
not sure if sarcastic or not
untold copper
yes no sarcasm pls do it :D
novel horizon
but idk what, was looking for one and found Chat Manager, but damn
that's like 5000 things for like 5 I want
untold copper
an auto responder would be cool
novel horizon
yeah
novel horizon
(we know)
but what can you do
when people ask the same question again and again and also send basic things with errors
in my language
golden gust
personally I just kick them
coarse lily
^
untold copper
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
novel horizon
lol
untold copper
gaym
coarse lily
Or get better players.
novel horizon
👍
untold copper
wideo
untold copper
limpid comet
yeah i instantly leave servers who have the plugin that turns "hey guys whats up" into "Hey guys whats up."
untold copper
oH
limpid comet
oh is that not the topic?
novel horizon
no
limpid comet
my bad
untold copper
auto responder
novel horizon
was just thinking about finding a plugin that helps correct just a letter in a word
untold copper
someone asks in chat "How to start?????!!!!!!"
coarse lily
Is it just one word?
untold copper
Then plugin sends them "Do asrhrglakeuhrg to start ur welcome"
coarse lily
If it's just one it'd be an easy enough match.
meager tusk
Ok
coarse lily
Auto responder to questions is tricky.
novel horizon
Yeah, I hate changing everything
novel horizon
just like "hey where i get elitra?" and goes to "hey where i get elytra?"
untold copper
I have an auto responder setup with dyno on my server
novel horizon
and such
because other people have tendency fix thgat
OMG ITS ELYTRA!!
etc
not a lot of people care, but still
but auto responder kinda would be great
untold copper
novel horizon
for few questions
limpid comet
thats not nlp
coarse lily
Yeah
limpid comet
that's just sending a message if it equals "whats the ip" lol
coarse lily
haha
limpid comet
pretty sure there's some service out there that does processing like tha
untold copper
I also have this
limpid comet
yeah googl ehas one
untold copper
pplist :P
coarse lily
If I typed "elitra" by accident and someone replaced it with elytra I'd probably leave the server.
If I did it on purpose and they replaced it I'd definitely leave the server.
untold copper
bruh
coarse lily
People generally respond poorly to having their text edited.
untold copper
yes reee is right
novel horizon
its funny
golden gust
Stiuff like correcting text is stupidly expensive
novel horizon
reeeee
coarse lily
Stiuff like correcting text is stupidly expensive
And that.
You're basically holding every line in cache to run your thing onit
Before you send it out.
golden gust
Have you ever noticed that on any game with chat filters, it boots you like, moments after you say the bad thing, vs the second you say it?
novel horizon
was just talking about it, it would be nice in some cases, people don't do it always for "ha ha"
coarse lily
If it gets busy that's gonna get real expensive real fast.
novel horizon
np
there's no need
people will learn it
later to write it properly:)
It's alright 🌈
Was thinking about it and found Chat Manager, which seems like the worst, so.. was discussing about that:)
It actually "does" these things I was talking about, but also 500 other things
coarse lily
500 extra things seems pretty good for a Minecraft plugin.
Usually it's 965 extra things.
novel horizon
Well, whatever, it's fine
golden gust
chat plugins don't get along, it's generally why they fall between useless and "all in one" type stuff
limber knotBOT
lol WHO declared that santa is covid-immune
novel horizon
I did 😠
golden gust
e.g. the moment you add stuff like [item], etc, the entire concept of compat goes out the window
coarse lily
lol WHO declared that santa is covid-immune
Imaginary things are definitely immune!
coarse lily
Uhm.
limpid comet
who else brings me presents every year
novel horizon
Yeah
golden gust
oh god
novel horizon
what are you talking about, ocelotpotpie
golden gust
just wait until they find out about the tooth fairy
limpid comet
NO
novel horizon
wdym
limber knotBOT
In comparison to you, I want some old man to watch over me. That's what Cat's for, after all
coarse lily
Hey look a unicorn!
limpid comet
ew proxi
golden gust
I'll watch over you but I'm afraid it might get a bit too hot for this christian minecraft server
limber knotBOT
their horn just retracts :lenny:
coarse lily
Proxi you do or don't want an old man to watch over you?
vestal jasper
Haha chat plugins
coarse lily
Haha
golden gust
Proxi, u gib me an innie
vestal jasper
They're fun to write /s
coarse lily
A wild Vicarious appears.
vestal jasper
Hi
novel horizon
Mornin' to me
vestal jasper
Midnight
limber knotBOT
golden gust
Hai vic
coarse lily
Yeah just about midnight here, too.
golden gust
be gone vic
vestal jasper
No
vestal jasper
Kick me. You won't. You're too lazy to.
limber knotBOT
it ain't, that's just spotify doing smth about discord
golden gust
?kick @vestal jasper 2ezi2amjustbenice
golden gust
vestal jasper
Lol
novel horizon
9 mins? what the
novel horizon
Might be
vestal jasper
It is
novel horizon
Yeah
golden gust
novel horizon
This video isn't available
vestal jasper
THIS THING. CALLED LOVE.
novel horizon
I know it though
coarse lily
God, I miss having access to a vinyl player
I just brought mine out of storage.
golden gust
Never had my own, I just used to use my grandparents
I erm... kinda... it needed a new needle after all the track hours I got on it 😄
coarse lily
I got one for myself for my birthday once upon a long time ago.
coarse lily
Vic this is a bit . . . different in vibe.
golden gust
do not recommend the video
vestal jasper
It is
golden gust
It looks like some grandparents are tryna like, be a teenage boy band
coarse lily
I've met diplo
vestal jasper
Neat. Never met any famous musicians
coarse lily
Hm I've met a few
vestal jasper
I've met Jeff kaplan tho
coarse lily
But I used to work at a concert venue.
coarse lily
Isn't that an offline server?
limpid comet
ew
twin lagoon
Isn't that an offline server?
yes 
stiff yarrow
https://open.spotify.com/track/6Ww8GHdPCl8MqZBhPn4LKd?si=t07p7L43RdSA35p2sQ-fbg
Loved pink guy haven’t really checked out Joji
still cosmos
jeez it was just an example -_-
jeez you are running an offline mode server because there are better exapmles
vestal jasper
Loved pink guy haven’t really checked out Joji
Sanctuary, Run, slow dancing in the dark
And the one I linked
limpid comet
god when slow dancing dropped
hope you're not storing passwords in plaintext
ok question
if you were using a random tp plugin, how would you feel about this config
too verbose?
coarse lily
I think so.
Since it's so few options I'd be more interested in it being a big more straightforward.
coarse lily
Ha
limpid comet
the idea is that plugins can add their own rules for their rule sets through an api
coarse lily
Even still, the JSON bit seems like overkill for a minecraft config.
limpid comet
and there will be some built in (i.e. worldguard support for regions)
it's actually HOCON
the only config format you should use
configurate supports it beautifully (sponge configuration library)
coarse lily
Isn't HOCON a superset of JSON? :)
coarse lily
When it comes to configs I'd expect them to be a lot easier on the user than they are on me.
limpid comet
i find hocon to be far more readable, from a config standpoint
coarse lily
I'm sure a lot of it is a preference thing.
limpid comet
yeah
coarse lily
If you prefer it then rock on - it's your thing.
limpid comet
i mean, it has variable substitution too which will be super useful for lang stuff
coarse lily
Right, but that goes back to easier on you vs them.
limpid comet
not really
i.e. one prefix variable, with every message being ${prefix} + 'message"
coarse lily
Format aside I don't think it's too verbose.
limpid comet
insead of having one global switch to say "prefix on or off"
coarse lily
Nice to have some comments explaining stuff.
limpid comet
oh yeah for sure there will be lots of comments
coarse lily
Since a lot of configs have shit like
limpid comet
this is just really structure stuff
coarse lily
SetThingForSettingIfSet = false
limpid comet
this all might change a lot
limpid comet
lol
ikr i hate that
ok, context: rulesets are a set of rules (duh) that controls whether or not a given location is a valid spawn point
and im gonna make each world have their own rulesets
but, do you think rtp and wild should have their own rulesets? or should it be global for both
coarse lily
Does it do the same thing?
limpid comet
fuck
coarse lily
Seems like it's doing effectively the same thing.
limber knotBOT
bluely 👋
limpid comet
so, like, on death or respawn or first join you can have your own rulesets that differ from /wild
still cosmos
Proxi 👋
coarse lily
Oh yeah.
limpid comet
hi proxy :pog:
coarse lily
Be good to have it an option to be granular.
limpid comet
yeah that's what im thinking
coarse lily
In case you want different rules
limpid comet
would be good for those servers that want their own private /wild thing
coarse lily
99.9% of people are going to config this once and never adjust it.
limber knotBOT
when shall you learn my name 😔
coarse lily
So a little bit of setup in advance is okay.
limber knotBOT
smh my head
coarse lily
Ha
limpid comet
3 am plugin grind
coarse lily
s my h.
limpid comet
i'm also intending this plugin not just to be a random spawn/wild plugin - it will be it's own API for anything that needs random spawn
so i.e. it could be the backbone for a minigame's random spawn system
via the api, you'd plug in your own rulesets
limpid comet
Quantum
untold copper
Just Quantum?
limpid comet
yep
untold copper
das dum
limpid comet
why
untold copper
confoosing
limber knotBOT
smh my head just use ded's randomtp
untold copper
how to join using irc btw
limber knotBOT
are you talking about science
untold copper
n0
coarse lily
If by 2013 you mean 1999
limpid comet
1999 was the year of the leetspeak, no?
coarse lily
Actually I guess that'd be like xGameCoolx
limpid comet
yeah
limber knotBOT
ay stop bullying my username ok
limpid comet
xxG4m3c00lxx
coarse lily
That was more like 1996-1998
limpid comet
alright little owned me
coarse lily
In 1999 we tried to get sophisticated
limpid comet
i see, i see
limber knotBOT
k bai
novel horizon
hey, GamerCool, I feel you
limpid comet
old man 😎
limber knotBOT
bluely: when will you spell my username correctly
limpid comet
hmmmmm i wonder if rulesets should have a world attached, instead of attaching a ruleset to a world
coarse lily
Feeling old as fuck today. Moved some boxes around and now my back hates me.
limpid comet
lol
don't worry, i have back pain too
but that's just from sitting on a chair for 18 hours a day
limber knotBOT
it's reasonably warm
limpid comet
i want like a 400lb weighted blanket
vernal moth
First Meeting is always in bed for me
limber knotBOT
first meeting is 9am :p
limpid comet
whats your job? didn't know you had one
limber knotBOT
i guess there's also the odd 8 am meeting
yes
software engineer
no dots in this tho
kinda sad
limpid comet
of course
limpid comet
did you show them ban
vernal moth
My first meeting today is 10am
twin lagoon
good feature cloudflare
limber knotBOT
i did actually
limpid comet
oh pog
vernal moth
Also, today last working day this year \o/
limber knotBOT
also paper
limpid comet
even more pog wtf
visual egret
Maybe I should quit the laptop and just host it on my pc
limber knotBOT
my last working day will be dec 27th or something
limpid comet
oskar, you've been on part 1 of redoing mysql for the past few days now, having troubles?
twin lagoon
vernal moth
That means, rest of the week I can spend on paperweight and hangar
coarse lily
Heh I have Christmas off.
visual egret
oskar, you've been on part 1 of redoing mysql for the past few days now, having ...
I kinda got involved in a tournament
coarse lily
. . . and that's it.
untold copper
kek
limpid comet
perfect
visual egret
what
limpid comet
you're off from the 23rd?
limpid comet
nice
twin lagoon
proxi uwu
limber knotBOT
michale uwu
stiff yarrow
I kinda got involved in a tournament
This could be the start of a great story
visual egret
why irc > discord?
limpid comet
less bloat
untold copper
irc dum
limber knotBOT
You can actually snap windows
limpid comet
irc not dum
twin lagoon
irc dum
limber knotBOT
Because Discord window is too large to be able to snap it
limpid comet
just wait til robo gets his hands on you
untold copper
discord > irc
limpid comet
speaking of, i officially hate robo
limber knotBOT
irc is great cause i can be on it when working
vernal moth
Discord is blocked at many companies
untold copper
oooh
limber knotBOT
it ain't at mine, I just find IRC less distracting
untold copper
yeah rightt
limpid comet
yeah discord is super distracting
untold copper
didnt know that
just didn't occour to my 4 brain cells
stiff yarrow
IRC does a very specific thing well, but given the choice I’m discord all the way
limber knotBOT
tinder is though; that was a pleasant surprise for my lunch break lol
limpid comet
i cuold be writing the world's best rtp plugin rn
limber knotBOT
Discord is a timed bomb, each minute it'll eat more & more memory
limpid comet
lol ^
untold copper
bruh ^
visual egret
i cuold be writing the world's best rtp plugin rn
if you add an api please make a maven repo
vernal moth
Or just use maven central...
limber knotBOT
I don't mind the memory usage, but then again I don't have memory constraints
limpid comet
i think he just wants me to upload the api to some maven repo
limber knotBOT
none I have to care about, anyways
limpid comet
which i will do, yeah
vernal moth
It's almost 2021, chrome ram usage isn't s problem anymore
limpid comet
i will probably make my own whenever i get my server back up
untold copper
It's almost 2021, chrome ram usage isn't s problem anymore
I is using firefox these days
limpid comet
nexus is comfy
untold copper
its cool
visual egret
Or just use maven central...
as long as I don’t need to add the jar manually
stares at ded
limber knotBOT
I mean if you have more than 3GB of RAM you will have no issues with it eating RAM unless your PC is up for a week w/o reboots
vernal moth
If you use discord you use chrome
limpid comet
though i'd have to split the api and the paper impl off which i'm not advanced enough for yet
coarse lily
And Chrome is hungry hungry hippos.
limber knotBOT
Unless you use discord in your browser :p
untold copper
If you use discord you use chrome
whats that supposed to mean -.-
limber knotBOT
At least Chrome doesn't start eating memory for no reason
Discord is Electron, i.e. Chrome
coarse lily
Discord's using like 3.8GB on my laptop right now.
vernal moth
Discord is build on chrome
untold copper
huh
limpid comet
so is literally every app made in 2020
untold copper
didn't know that
coarse lily
IRC is in a terminal and it's using 215MB
Along with the 324923-90 other terminals I have open.
limber knotBOT
I just use thelounge, ocelot
I've been meaning to try out weechat but... effort...
visual egret
pretty sure the minecraft launcher is
it’s electron
vernal moth
Minecraft launcher ist CEF, so yes, Chrome too
limber knotBOT
My IRC client is taking 20MB rn
limpid comet
ah okay thanks mini
limber knotBOT
web-based irc client
coarse lily
Ah gotcha.
limber knotBOT
i've got it hooked into znc tho, so shouldn't have an issue just switching
limpid comet
thank god i dont have to deal with that, multimc all the way
potent fossil
@heady spear where are you
limpid comet
simple qt
vernal moth
Not happy with lounge?
potent fossil
who uses his dumb cloud lib
limber knotBOT
Fuck, Zoom in background eats 200MB w/o me being on any meeting
meh, I like having stuff in my terms
limber knotBOT
you don't