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😳 😳 😳 😳
you haven't lived until you've waited 8 hours on a gentoo install to compile LLVM
gentoo is extremely tempting but i don't think i have the dexterity
i dont have the soul
ok i should probably reboot here
oh god
wish me luck
HOLY SHIT
ITS BEAUTIFUL
this guy is living in 2050
wtf
looks like aikar experienced it, he was commenting on a youtrack issue about it
aikar is everywhere
paper has no 1.16.1 version?

is your name actually squares or did i forget a font package
you're missing a korean? font
yes, korean
yeah just got it, thanks
@limpid comet ayaya its hot
Hi
how the fuck does this run at 800mb
I'm tired
my system runs lower than that and i have like 1000 packages
whats it without discord
jfc 400mb
i want LOWER
mental outlaws gentoo config is 80mb at idle lol
god thats incredible
this is my calling
looking at random dotfiles and seeing how much memory they use
wait can i ctrlc ctrlv in termianl
oh alt v
yes i can
pog ??
I always hated those being bound to alt
ok well whatever, switching IJ's runtime to my local jdk 11 install resolved the issue with context menus randomly popping up on my second monitor
I prefer just adding shift to the normal ones
yes
ok ive removed all the random icons from the sidebar
do i even need it
now that im thinking about it i dont think ill ever use it
i could just yeet tint2
in fact, i think i will
so many colours
wtf lmao. my Mod1 appears to be my windows key in i3...left alt (the supposed default) is not working and my config doesn't redefine that.
nvm i was using the wrong config

50% of the time my laptop boots in 9s and the other 50% it takes 25
:|
its firmware and idk how i can really fix that, it has to be a bios thing
fast boot is on
whatever i guess its fine
is tcp sheild a better ddos domain protector than cloudflare
Yeah for Minecraft and I have the free version of cloudflare
you can get the best of both worlds if you find a provider with magic transit
Ok so then should I do tcp shield
probably
Ok
Anyone have that image with all the different windows context menus
so i got my domain on freenom and when i try to verify my domain for tcp shield and use @ for the name is says wild cards aree not allowed so what do I do?
Sooo do I have to buy a domain or is their another place I can get one for free from
I created a cname with @ as the name and the target as: bd9c7471463f8b8dfe51c6bca138e2bf.ipv4.tcpshield.com
Also it tells me to create a TXT/CNAME instead of just a CNAME
ok does anyone use polybar with i3
i don't even have workspaces 8 or 9 defined but they show up on my left and right monitors anyway even with no programs running in those workspaces make it stop
Hey
anyone knows why can't I open any version past 1.16 or something like that? 😂
I mean, I can run raw versions
But not optifine, forge, labymod, etc... past 1.16
It simply crashes
Heyhttps://paste.gg/p/anonymous/3b0bf241a4e348beb4dbdc5b90f4824d/files/bab854ff3e114cca97d89230b3c6ae94/raw
Yes im premium.
Just using tlauncher lol
did you try with normal launcher or?
ok watever im using gnome for now
big time
I created a cname with @ as the name and the target as: bd9c7471463f8b8dfe51c6bca138e2bf.ipv4.tcpshield.com
Also it tells me to create a TXT/CNAME instead of just a CNAME
Proxi bad
why would she, bugs are friends
Zml bad
is that roast duck i smell?
Impossible noone roasts a duck
???
rotisserie... aliens?
i think they're supposed to be ducks?
definitely aliens
What the fuck
some of the people in this server are profoundly profoundly disturbing
@vestal jasper awa
discord in a nutshell:

woah intellij's jar diff tool is cool
shows you individual diffs of each file, and decompiles the classes in the jar to show the diffs for each class
XD
This is because the original timer was started in 1970, from then on the computer just counts the number of seconds elapsed from then
The system probably glitched and showed 1970 instead
Well, no shit on that aspect
it's the fact that it pulled up that time however it did it
i know how unix time works
plz does anyone use i3 and polybar because im dying. i have polybar and 3 monitors, and i dont want any workspaces on my two secondary monitors unless i specifically move them there but no matter what each monitor always has one workspace on it. in my i3 config i have specifically defined all my workspaces to be on my one primary monitor output yet no joy. if i move the workspace to my primary monitor manually, a new one is created. is it impossible to have no workspaces at all on a monitor unless one is specifically moved there? :(((
What distro are you on? Mine has an option to have either a set number of workspaces or a dynamic number, and an additional option to have workspaces per monitor - all of it in the GNOME-Tweaks app
i3 is a replacement for gnome
darn
it's a tiling window manager
which has more players, MC JAVA or MC W10?
You know, i just finally jumped aboard the linux train last week with Pop!_OS, and I'm sitting here so jealous of all you Arch users. Wish I had the skills to handle all that coding beauty mess already
Probably Java, it's been around longer and only console/mobile players who want to use a pc are likely to play W10
it's not that hard tbh
If you only count bedrock players on win10, java has easily more
if you're able to read documentation and google
Overall bedrock has more players tho
you should be pretty much good to go for arch
oh and well some basic linux experience
how come I can't join my papermc server
Yessss... but it's still a lot to read. And I'm still in my linux paradigm shift phase
I got windows 10
could always use https://endeavouros.com/ too
I got the vps already
java, bedrock edition has a bit more players than java, and bedrock is cross platform while java isnt so java is logically the one with more players
and made papermc
papermc is a java server, not a bedrock server
if you're using windows 10 edition, it just won't work
not unless you install geyser
There is stuff like gysermc to "fix" that
my purchase was a lie
im on arch with i3, yes, and i can't get this shit to work
it still is a java server with geyser
Seriously, fuck off pinging
michael fix it for me
sorry omg
ok simple step one
Thanks for the tip, i'll prolly check it out in a year or so
uninstall i3
no
sorry zzzcat
fuck you then michael
wtF
LOL
cat pls ban
I'm with simple on this one
wtF
Speaking of my linux ignorance, why is the whole workflow/GUI/desktop modding called 'ricing'?
I'll look into gyser

never thought I'd say that, but, you know
but faster way is to get mc java
ricing comes from the term ricing a car, which is adding mods to it to make it look cool but not necessarily improve the performance
Because "making it pretty" sounds... erm, I got no non-anti-paper2.0 words here
so ricing a computer is making it look pretty with no other benefit
So it's clientside modding?
Rice burner is a pejorative term originally applied to Japanese motorcycles and which later expanded to include Japanese cars or any East Asian-made vehicles.[2][3][4][5] Variations include rice rocket, referring most often to Japanese superbikes, rice machine, rice grinder or simply ricer.[3][6][7]
it's just going OTT with configuration essentially
It's wasting your time
pretty much this
Pretty equivalent to a clientside modpack for minecraft is what i was tring to say
Vanilla = unmodified
oh
ok fuck it i guess im just gonna have default workspaces on different monitors because apparently this is fucking impossible to just have all my workspaces initially be on my primary monitor until moved
No clue where that term comes from
I mean why is it called vanilla, why did they use that nomenclature
Mojang never used that term offically
Because thanks to very successful marketing of american ice cream companies, "vanilla" means "default"
some people call it vanilla when their server doesn't affect the core mechanics
vanilla = "plain"
vanilla ice cream = plain, no extra flavor. it comes from that.
Ohhh!!
Now it makes sense!!
The satisfaction of knowing why has finally massaged my mind
(Vanilla really doesn't mean plain or no extra flavor, it's just marketing kids!)
Buuuut, good vanilla ice creams do have flavor!
yes, plain flavor
you know what you need?
i prefer vanilla
Cornish ice cream
If you have really Vanille in there
daaammn is cornish ice cream the shit
Not the fact shit
Is taht like corned beef?
Yea, it's corned beef ice cream
what the fuck
(no)
ddg! cornish ice cream
hot
and now I'm getting mcdonalds ice cream
I always go to the Italian next door, get spaghetti ice, so like 4 balls of Vanille with strawberries, strawberry sauce and white chocolate as topping
"I'm licking an ice cream made of corned beef, why did i even do this"
pasgetti ice cream
woah
Cornish ice cream is a form of ice cream first made in Cornwall in the southwest of Great Britain. It is made with Cornish clotted cream, and may be made with sorbet.
clotted cream just sounds worse
It's basically just really creamy
How many scabs went into taht?
ddg! clotted cream
See also:
jk
It's british after all
yum
LOL
I mean, we had an empire
got a shit ton of spices
and our "strongest" daily spice is salt.
by spice, he means, salt and pepper
Meanwhile, my bff has chilli in practically everything
saying that, chilli scrambled eggs are the breakfast of heavens
Yesterday I did put I into my rice
Just hacked really small, gives a really nice flavor
Saying that, I used to have scrambled egg on toast every day for breakfast in high school, much to the dismay of my classmates
Alternatily, you can also get rasps of lemons into the rice, also tastes amazing
Now I want scrambled egg
I never enjoyed scrambled eggs
Goddamnit cat
It's like a sweet rice cereal
I don't like the taste of eggs at all
Only thing the taste of eggs is acceptable is fried potatoes
😍 😍
Yes
my grandma used to make some mean ass salmon barms when we went on road trips
Just had a boiled egg
What about meringue 👀
Eggs only go into waffles or cake or stuff for me
Gotta go down there once covid is over
Me and my gf need more potato recipes rn, we have like 8 pounds taht are gonna go bad soon
Ohhhh
I mean, I'm british, potatos go in practically everything
It's Xmas soon, I should make cookies and stuff
I have a bag of potatoes that I need to use up but I haven't had the energy to cook anything with them
Fan oven?
helo ms proxi
So it only got the fan in the back, not the heat thingies ontop and below?
I can like switch what mode I want
yea, something like that
If I'm up with the british crowd, I must be in danger. checks watch yup, it's past 2am. I should prolly go to bed, but i don't know if i will lol
I mean, me being a metric of "shit it's late" is really not a good one, lol
congratulations
So it's not that bad
I went to sleep at like 4pm ;-;
Saaaame!
it's bad when you do that all the time, like me
well, 4am
i've not been fully refreshed and awake since 2003
mini the alcoholic
Ooof, you ever consider getting tested for a sleep disorder? I got apnea
yeah i have sleep apnea likely, and also insomnia (probably due to sleep apnea)
but my GP died so
I didn't drink one sip of water and didn't eat a thing till I realized that fact at like 19
have not been able to find a new GP since covid began
@cedar spade go to sleep 😠
And then I had to go shopping first
so im kinda in a weird place atm
@minor badge 
I just woke up and have work to do :(
I gotta sort out my GP, but with moving and covid and having energy to actually fuck around, sigh
michale

yeah this year has kinda universally sucked. My gf and i moved in together right before it started so I've been lucky
I need to get to my parents in an hour
I got so much work piling up too, I'm just like dead most of the time
But i don't wanna leave bed
my GP was so wonderful, gonna be very weird having to find a new doctor
Is it complain hour?
But i also need to shower
this year has been pretty alright to me
every hour is complain hour when it's covid time!
Since I smell like a Liquor cabinet
I need to eat and shower and do work but also meh
mini you're an alcoholic but your our alcoholic and im here to support your alcoholism
go grab a beer
not a shower
Beer shower
You mean, german
Yesterday was fun, we played among us while getting drunk
yeah alcoholic, german what's the difference
reaches into Mini and pulls out bottle of expensive wine Yup, liquor cabinet alright
To the point where I was not able to properly do the tasks anymore 😂
"connect the wires"
mini: what
Mini I told you that among us drinking game was lethal
The maze thing is the worst
Hah
We should do a paper game night some time
We should
Any game that relies on friendship/communication devolves into hilarity when drunkeness is involved
god, I miss hangouts CAH
No, everything deviled into hilarity when drunkness is involved
I miss having more than two IRL friends
We can do that cat
im speaking to you goy's in vr lol
That sounds fun
VR is nuts ngl
and i didnt spell it...
But i can't drink in VR
I finally got a vr capable computer just need a headset sometime
well you can
ah yes the true use of VR: typing in Discordd
And it's exhausting
friend of mine is really into VRchat drinking 
in a good way
I still haven't finished HL:AL
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SUre you can drink in VR, haven't you ever seen Sword Art Online?
so you can interact w/ desktop applications like discord from within vr
You can do that with steamvr anyways
raises hand I am a Linux user
Absolutely
im gonna be playing and recording a friends SMP
it's a steamvr overlay utility apparently @vernal moth
Linux users prolly are mobile gamers
that is true though
Just not very many AAA, mass-market, ltra-competitive, FPS shooter games
Because big companies adn their stupid anticheat policies
It's getting better, especially with stuff like proton, etc
yes but not good enough
But michael, 2021 will be the year of the Linux desktop!
But, there's still games missing due to stuff like BS drm
they'll need easyanticheat support and other anticheats
Most games I play actually run almost as good or better on linux
then we're talking
although they are running spigot
ewww
apparently there are some cases where proton actually runs better than running on windows
"windows will just be a shell on top of the Linux kernel by the end of 2021!!!"
We already got WSL
It prolly will
Linux is slowly invading
I wouldn't mind if msft removed ntfs 😂
it never will be that
I mean, every server runs linux
it would be ideal but it won't happen
Heck, even your thermostat runs linux
hello corporations with active directory and other windows features
although, those are slowly being migrated to azure
Azure ad 😍
Windows is a platform whose main goals include running software from 25 years ago
But yeah we run ton of windows servers
NT isn't going away until ancient software dies
I guess I should stop linux master racing now before I start an argument 😛
Sorry all
They gonna do it the edge way. Modern engine but fall back to old one if needed
i love linux but it isn't the right OS for gaming
"enterprise mode"
10X is... interesting, but it's been delayed so much that who knows if it'll take off
10x also shifted focus like 3 times
At this point I don't even know what it is anymore
My position is, I've jumped ship and now anything windows is auxilary and hopefully soon deprecated for me. And I'll runa GPU passthroguh VM for the one or two games I have to play on windows bc anticheats, like Destiny 2
It once was for dual screen devices, now it seems to be a chromebook like thingy or smth
"UWP-only Chrome OS alternative" is the most I've understood
GPU passthrough won't always work either
bah
plenty of anticheats / DRM do VM detection
that's awful
Which sounds suspiciously like Windows RT, and we know how that went
Well, i do have a spare computer, and i guess i can just pop another drive into this one and run dualboot if i really need to
The surface go my mom has would be a nice device for that
See, what's interesting is how ARM has been taking off in the past few years
Yeah but they were claiming to be working on Android app support in 10 before it came out and abandoned it, I wouldn't get your hopes up
Poor Intel
Loosing to amd, loosing to arm
They lucky AMD can't pump out chips fast enough
lOse an O there mini, ur speaking minilang
Alright, it's too late for me, i can't keep up anymore. G'night everyone!

O/
So, 2 second google suggests that the machine the 10x is for is gonna be an intel
lakefield, apparently
Yeah 10x isn't arm
Arm is seperate
And for some dum reason msft doesn't want to promote that or even sell it
I guess they got long term contracts with intel or smth
how come my minecraft is only 4gb ram but 12 players could play
I mean my server
its just surival with no mods
ram is generally irrelevant until it causes performance issues
It depends on way more factors than just ram
4G is more than plenty for 12 players
pterodactyl
Yes
actually let me google that
They all suck
ohhhh
pterodactyl doesn't suck that much tbh
can someone quickly ping me in discord plz, wanna check if my notif system is working
@potent fossil
fk
ptero becomes a mess once you have a fuckton of servers on it
well whatever thx
.rekt
so i wouldn't throw an entire network on it
Noob
btw someone in my server siad something like "Someone tried to login using your username"
how can anyone do that?
Offline mode?
offline mode
yes its on offlien mode
That's bad
Then anybody can login using your name
Enable online mode asap
Offline mode basically disables all security measures
fuck you offline mode user
So MS's plan to support Android apps is supposedly to make devs repackage them and replace GMS usage with MS services
wtf?

Chill lol
lol
I'm sure that'll go down well
...
And by "well" I mean not at all
Ifiots
claps
Have they not learned from windows phones
Apparently not
Seems like this is an effort to ease porting apps to 10 rather than to actually let consumers use any apps
Cause that every got anywhere
Microsoft is working on a software solution that would allow app developers to bring their Android apps to Windows 10 with little to no code changes by packaging them as an MSIX and allowing developers to submit them to the Microsoft Store. The project is codenamed 'Latte' and I'm told it could show up as soon as next year.
Remember Ubuntus mobile os? 😂
what could cause these weird symbols to show in logs
Remember Unity
Why would I want to submit my shit to the msft store
wInDoWs 10x
In edge you can at least just use the chrome store if you don't want to use the msft store
don't get me wrong by the way
Those are ansi colors
I have minecraft java and windows 10
I mean Google isn't gonna license GMS to MS, and I doubt MS would want to risk emulating Google's APIs
both of which I bought
thought so
Your log format doesn't strip colors michale
I just needed offline mode so other people can join
@restive thicket geyser log format pls fix
EDIT: https://github.com/GeyserMC/Geyser/issues/1606
🥺
You don't tho
You are as bad as them then
Since you are enabling them
well they are still kids
Michael can't you just copy papers log4j config or smth
tell them to buy it
Dude tone it down a bit, lol
yeah i steal everything after pirating a game, its true
I sure hope they don't do that on my watch nessie, lol
the problem is if I turn online mode some players won't be able to play
import lombok.extern.log4j.Log4j2; 
Key reseller are worse than pirtating
i give up
maybe i can PR it actually
We support neither offline mode not account resellers here
They even use TCA
But the format is fine
At least on first glance
We don't need to discuss that topic any further tbh
is there a minecraft texture pack that is just a slightly better version of the default one?
i know there is an enhanced default shader pack
that just makes default look slightly better
You mean Faithful?
no i mean sildur's enhanced default https://papermc.io/community-guidelines
uh
ok
clipboard thanks
wtfg
ok thanks keyboard for working!
paper community guidelines is my favourite shaderpack
mine too
shaderpacks suck
why do I hear boss music
shaders
sounds STUPID
How do you make that purple strobe light
unicorn blood
@twin lagoon @minor badge 

Good morning
k i don't think i can fix geyser's log stuff just through log4j2.xml
it prints out ANSI codes with just {msg}
good morning
probably because of https://github.com/GeyserMC/Geyser/blob/0215c383b02083a8bb1813ee88cebfc2d269dcaf/bootstrap/standalone/src/main/java/org/geysermc/platform/standalone/GeyserStandaloneLogger.java
does anyone know how to get rid of breathing noises when you physically cant move the mic? im using voicemeeter bannana and obs
do you have a latest nvidia card
gtx 1060
try RTX Voice
else, use the Gate function in voicemeeter
which should mitigate the noise when you're not talking
Does your mic have foam on it?
ive already set a noise gate in obs
no, its a VR headset
best to use rtx voice
get a pop filter is what I would do, always better than software
popfilters won't fix his issue probably
and RTX voice works extremely well
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contains the small hack required to install rtx voice on 1000 series
fancy
is the irc bot using some sort of google api for .g command? searx was running into captcha errors and parsing html seemed to break at times
isn't it bing api
yes :(
it is bing? 
yes .g is bing :(
wtf we've been lied to
bing is surprisingly good in that case
still brings me pain
i mean, been a looong time since i used bing last
but it was absolute trash last time i did
.g 1 btc to usd
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hmm interesting. wolfram alpha is pretty good at this
.8ball is duck dumb
shakes the magic 8 ball... Outlook not so good
oh
.8ball is simple dumb
shakes the magic 8 ball... Outlook not so good
correct
rigged
.8ball confirm whether or not duck is actually dumb?
shakes the magic 8 ball... Maybe...
promising results
.8ball is simple actually dumb?
shakes the magic 8 ball... Naturally
well that is correct
.8ball are you a cat or dog?
shakes the magic 8 ball... Don't count on it
wait nvm i was supposed to ask a yes\no question
yes that's how 8ball works.
it doesn't pass Turing's test 🤣
ddg! uwu
See also:
imagine being able to say you go to UWU
twitter bio goals
@twin lagoon

worth
uwu
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
no my table I can do whatever I want
who's arguing about tables now
?warn @dull apex This is not a marketplace
NECALVOCO#3399 has been warned. || This is not a marketplace
Is PaperV2 stable? Or is it better to wait for you?
huh
what is paper 2
are you talking about the download api?

Version 2 of the PaperMC downloads API is now live - documentation can be read at https://papermc.io/api/docs/
That’s cute
paper 2.0 best paper
paper 3.0 ?
no
paper who
does anyone have a custom crafting recipe plugin?
Can someone please analyse a skywars game for me and tell my why alot of players arent taking kb or i just got comboed loads even when i w tap and snowball
anti cheat plugin?
Sorry legit just ranked skywars game play
i know this isnt a great discord to ask i am just having a hard time
Like if anyone i good at the game could they spot what im doing wrong
oh that kind of question
Is that okay?
probably not the right discord server. there are mostly server owners, developers here
Ah okay mate cheers!
Mike, we're not google, stop spamming.
there are few out there if you need something specific just get a developer
just asked one time and replyed it and its spam? nice work bud
I only remember one premium plugin that I don't remember name of and I'm sure there are free alternatives there
k thanks
You posted in multiple channels, and then repeated the question not even 5 minutes after you first asked, but, love the attitude, bud
yes
Doing device maintincance on my mother's phone
It's amazing that roms for the nexus 6p are still being developed
6p :pog:
Even tho it's a sd 810 device and they are known to just die
I abused that phone and it never cracked
you know I always hated those people that always have to have the latest phone? I'm one of those people now .-. I have a S10+ and I want a new phone

What's wrong with your s10+?
I don't want to upgrade at all, barely any modern phones have headphone jacks
nothing
lol
resurrectionremix 
I guess those days are still around, though I've moved to Samsung who make it nearly impossible to flash a rom
Gotta figure out my plan for my 5T
I missed the fiddling
Oh dear
I hate fiddling, but, until covid stops fucking up the local job market, y'know
moving to Samsung and not away from
samsung makes decent phones
what wrong with samsung
Eh, my s10+ has done really well all things considered
I'm nowhere near a poweruser on mobile
their old phones were ass
I bought an Huawei P30 Pro before i bought the S10+
touchwiz 
Samsungs phone support is literally like a kid and a shiny bulb
t o u c h w i z
touchwiz doesn't exist anymore
I use snapchat, discord, YouTube, and that's it
the new samsung experience is ok
yes
Like, yea, you turn it on, it flashes, they'll run around with it for a few days or something and never look at it again
Yeah, OneUI is cool
niko?
but the day after I bought it the whole google thing embargo happened and I didn't know what would happen so I gave it back and got the S10+ instead
Nexus/pixel for life
touchwiz -> samsung experience -> oneui -> oneui 2 -> oneui 3
didn’t Pixel add back the headphone jack?
no
I might just go back to apple one day
oh. >:(
Not on newer models
Who needs a headphone jack?
Me
me.
I mean, I don't really do jack shit on my phone, so it's like, ecosystem stuffs
I love my headphone jack
I don't miss mine at all
Apple’s ecosystem is really good, you gotta give them that
Simply give them $10,000 and you’ll have a great UX wherever you are
I don't like the vendor lockin
Not to mention, they actually support their shit past 2 years :/
I got bluetooth headphones 🤷♂️
waiting for new samsugn galaxy buds
Same but I like having headphones on me if they die
galaxy buds are 👌
Though nowadays I barely ever listen to music on my phone so ehhh
they're releasing new ones in january probably
I always have a USB C -> aux adapter in my purse anyway
That's the thing that pisses me off with android, yea, sure, the devices are cheaper and shit, but, You literally gotta upgrade every 2 years if you wanna stick on the latest OS
I tried my sisters and they actually fit in my ear. apple’s airpods just fall out
was planning to go buy the sennheiser momentum 2 otherwise
and, "cheaper" is getting hardly a pro for android anyways
Airpods pros are actually useable imo
nah they look like shit
I have a pair, just barely use them
are they? haven’t tried em
Like, you argue "ecosystem lockin", but, you're literally locked into the android ecosystem
Who cares what they look like
I do like that I already have the Dezember 2020 Security Patch
No, literally, they were given to me for free
not to mention google preventing you from uninstalling their apps on your phone
nope
I mean, I'm not sure there's any I want to uninstall personally
I mean, you can definitely get rid of gapps
You're telling me you can uninstall safari on your iPhone?
I can uninstall just about any Apple app except for the necessities, like the settings and App Store
You can uninstall everything if you want
yes
mfw
For this phone, I actually have to manually install google apps
Their core services still run on your phone
I think it hides them, which is better than nothing
It comes without any gapps
for this phone
oh wait you can only remove from Home Screen
like I have: Play Store, Movies, Music, Photos, Phone, Maps, Gmail, and Chrome
I think that's it
and I've used them all
Samsung makes it a bit trickier to remove their bullshit bloat
But it's possible through adb
It's all installed on the ROM
They are installed as system services so a user can't install/uninstall them
You can hide them yea, but you can't modify the ROM
Make your own phone
librem be like
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204221 hmm, they don’t provide a list on the apps you can’t uninstall
With iOS 10, you can remove some built-in Apple apps from the Home screen on your iPhone, iPad, iPod touch, or Apple Watch.
Now, if you wanna fuck around with tools which remount the system partition as r/w to be able to pull that shit off, sure, can do the same crap on all platforms if you want, not really a feature
hide != uninstall
The software is still there on the disk
Does apple allow you to mount system in R/w? Lol
let me just go through all my apps and find out which don’t let me delete
Removing built-in iOS apps doesn't free up storage space on your device.
they're just being disabled
Android is just way more open, I can do whatever the fuck I want
Custom kernel and everything
Android is so open, that you can brick your phone with just one command if you want. 
Yeah 😂
Still not sure if this is gonna boot 😂 😂
Half the ecosystem is locked down to all shit
Only buy phones from vendors that allow you to do that then
yeah the samsung shit is annoying because there is a google alternative to all of them and they're all better
There's a reason I only allow google and OnePlus devices in my family 😂
most ROM images rely on copying proprietary modules that they really shouldn't be shipping you legally, etc
OnePlus, Google, OPPO.
Who else doesn't shoot you when you unlock the device?
Clock, Photos, Camera, Phone, Settings, Safari, Messages
No you gotta flash vendor yourself
That’s all I found.
samsung
You trip KNOX tho.
who the fuck cares about knox
My bank.
And that's another thing
then why’s it take time to redownload off the App Store?
I've always had samsung phones and I have no idea what knox even does
Updates
likely reverts to a factory version
You change the rom and now you're literally in the same ballgame as apple with shit like magisk
They only remove updates brian
yeah
Android does the same
oh, dang, really? that’s kind of..
It's the only possible way
knox is an e-fuse which basically there for voiding warranty and security, etc
voiding warranty wouldn't work in EU anyways
do these app stores distribute updates as some kind of diff? Because otherwise you would need to have the original version stored permanently
how come they aren’t just treated like apps, and a list of the necessities gets downloaded for new factory reset phones?
Because that's an extra step of waiting
They want you to be able to turn the device on and do shit, not have to deal with the UI aspects and the whole "you can't do crap unless you actually download the software"
Imagine if you purchased a game on the day it released and you had to download multiple gigs of data to even be able to play
Oh, wait, nvm

What part?
Mounting vendor
but android is a good ecosystem
Xiaomi and Oppo are really good
Your phone might just not have a vendor partition?
Cat this device is half a decade old and has a chip that is known to fall apart
Like, literally, the sd 810 just splits in half
And looses half it's cores
I mean, you're arguing that android is a good ecosystem, while dealing with tooling which is joyous, and neccessary due to the fact that the OEM killed support for
iPhone 6 was released a few weeks after, still running the latest version of iOS
@void void, I know this might sound really far-fetched, but would you— and pardon my presumption — but would you, by chance, be a furry?
Really?
I’m on an iPhone 6s right now ¯_(ツ)_/¯
apple support for a device last I saw was like 7 years
Google had issues getting even the big OEMs to commit to 2 years of updates
- 1 year of security patches
I'm a black wolf
with blue details
Is that a furry sub-type,, species thing? Sorry I don’t really know much about that
Well it's the species and personality that most fits me , the one of the wolf
Ah ok
It's pretty common for people to choose wolves, but of course there are others animals as well 😛
foxes are popular too recently ngl
remind me to leave out some bear traps
the salmon said
Yeah that makes more sense than what cat is saying
Nokia also has a good update track record.
AFAIK the Nokia 6 is still getting monthly updates.
at first they where shit, but if you see down the grid, they're much better
much longer than the 2 year minimum which android OEMs screamed about
Like, they hardly wanna keep you supported for the length of your phone contract
device was released 2017, and there was a 2018 model I thiiink/ So they're still around the minimum time frame for security updates, don't expect any majors
Android 7.1.1 (Nougat), upgradable to Android 9.0 (Pie)
vibing
3 years of more than enough imo
i'll probably make it to android 14
and after that i can just flash my own roms
I just buy phones that are 3 years old already as I always flash my own roms anyways 👀
My goal is to install esxi on an iPhone
I mean, esxi-arm is a thing
@twin lagoon Thanks for the issue report!
as soon as you threw that emoji you remembered he existed?
Why would anybody use esxi
Yet alone on a phone
Didn't virtualization die?
Cloud native containers pls
no, virtualization is still strong
Like, esxi makes it easy to spin up a few dozen VMs for running containers in, etc
Virtualization is stronger than ever for a good reason. It’s extremely secure for how simple it is
kube can spin up esxi machines afaik
It's just one way of doing doing it, overheads of stuff like ESXi is hardly worth writing home about iirc
I haven’t noticed it yet. Esxi takes only like half a gig of ram on full load, and like 3% of a 4790k
I’ve only used VMware products and hyper v (hyper v significantly less so) and I feel esxi works better probably because it’s an operating system, not software installed on an OS
hyper-v works the same essentially
pretty sure the OS itself practically works in hyper-v when you have it enabled, causes so many fun issues apparently
fwiw I've had Hyper-V enabled on most of my 8 and 10 installs and not really had it cause any issues
only problem is if you try and use another VM that doesn't support it, but most work fine with it at this point?
apparently some ram rgb tool was busted with it or something or other
older versions of vmware didnt work with hyper v enabled, newest versions work fine tho
mirageos is kinda cool
you build an application and it runs basically on bare metal
except not really because there's a hypervisor
but like, there aren't any unnecessary operating systems services running - it's just the application
hola
I know workstation pro added hyper v support with 15.6.1
Sorry if that tags you I turned it off but have no idea how reply works yet
I think if all you run is VMs, esxi is better. My personal opinion is hyper v is only needed if you need windows too
Which
needing windows
Wut
Is virtual box open source or just free?
oooo
i actually loaded up discord to talk abouit this!
i've got a debian box and curious if i should run papermc off of a container
i've never done it before but looking to run a freepbx server off the same machine and kinda curious if it'd be worth it
I personally believe that isolation/virtualization allows for more scalability, but it can be a pain if you’ve never done it before. A lot of people use docker for their containers, but I can’t vouch for or against docker that as I’ve never used it. I have heard a lot about it in the mc world tho for containers
If you’re on a small scale I don’t think it’s worth it, but if you want an easier time long term with knowing what belongs to what, hypervisors are a good bet
updates sort of confuse me though
i have to wait for the docker image to update yes?
i can't just pull the papermc file and update it myself
Maybe someone here is familiar with docker and can answer that, unfortunately I don’t know D:
thats okay! thanks for the chat!
your docker image only needs to run the minecraft server itself
the java -jar command basically
use a volume to store the minecraft files somewhere so you can access them
oh interesting
might be worth it to get rid of my pi
and have everythign on one machine
IMHO pis are good for prototyping, but not much more. The sooner you can move off the pi, the better off you are I personally believe
Should I buy an Echo Show or should I not buy an Echo show
no
you mean yes, buy one?
no
amazons ones are zzz
buy a google home





