lmao
#general
cosmic raft
i've found the weird part of youtube again
this guy's reaction
when he realises the old lady is cleaning his ears with a pocket knife
lmao
untold copper
guys 1 more response
https://forms.gle/PQjjGc2r6c8FmHx7A
pls :3
yey thanks :333
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cosmic raft
wat
slim nymph
yeah random hurts people more than bots
the bots dont care if its random
try again over the next few hours / days, xbox's were adding stock over multiple days still
gamestop did a queue on xbox preorder too
um no basket
twin lagoon
L
slim nymph
a PC these specs is 2k+
golden gust
comparable specs of a console is gonna be cheaper than a PC as they subsidise the cost of the console
The "trick" is often in game pricing and "the long run"
But, if you just wanna game on your couch, you're gonna be looking for games which support a controller or get one of those weird keyboard/mouse remote couch bum things
golden gust
That's false equivilency
golden gust
"highest" quality is spec'd to the hardware, so 7 years down the line, PC games are gonna have better gfx
The only real aspect is, what do you compare it against?
Take a look at many cross platform games, the PC version is often better looking, or, often has stupid things like FPS caps, etc
get the gentoo experience on your couch
twin lagoon
manjaro lul
no pc will run native 4k 120 either
native, not your DLSS shit
4k 60fps is hard to get even on pc
a 3090 likely wont get 60fps with the highest settings in every game
golden gust
Don't think I've really seen a 4k 120 TV at a decent resolution for a decent price
golden gust
Don't TVs have AI upscaling now?
At least, if you're splashing out for cash in that line of panel, etc
slim nymph
@rugged pilot the new consoles are running a card more powerful than a Geforce 2080 SUPER
so yes the consoles run on high not medium settings
and they are effectively using PC architectures
now throw in the rest of the build 😛
golden gust
biggest gain archtecture wise is generally having to only cater towards one chip, so you don't gotta worry about having to compile to a less specific CPU, less hassle around dealing with different GPUs, etc, etc, etc
"yes"
twin lagoon
theyre a decent deal for maybe 1 - 2 years
slim nymph
xbox does for some games, its up to games
golden gust
depends on the games, however
twin lagoon
i can only use controllers for platformers and simulators/racing games
wide chasm
buying EA games
slim nymph
ARK requires a damn keyboard
you need to search your inventory to do anything at decent speed
golden gust
Wasn't me that bought it, never owned a console myself and not really a controller fanboy outside of the odd thing here and there
slim nymph
and lot of times you need to search fast
good thing i dont have to buy another EA game now since all EA games are free 😛
slim nymph
the subtle changes to the new xbox one is nice
wide chasm
Honestly EA probably makes the vast majority of their money from their micro transactions anyway
slim nymph
the buttons feel more tactile
golden gust
See, I think that the xbox controllers layout was just kinda weird, but, I grew up with a PS 1/2
slim nymph
sadly they changed the shape of the casing and the old rechargeable batteries dont fit their backplate
twin lagoon
i grew up with a ps2
i love xbox layout nowadays
i thought i would hate it
but you just need to try it out
slim nymph
i like how microsoft changed it, it keeps your thumbs at the up position most of its time, where as PS your left thumb is moving to the right for movement
wide chasm
The one thing I always found weird on PS4 is that the x button is continue and the o button is back, makes no sense to me
golden gust
I only really played like the classic GTAs, le mans, GT3 or something, NFS, and erm... The one, the only, original resident evil
"shaaaennne, is there any zombies in there" as innocent as can be "nooooo" opens door zombie groans "AAHHHHH"
slim nymph
im giving destiny 2 a new shot since its a new campaign
i see its now cross play to PC
man i hadnt played that game in like years and i still had people in my clan playing lol
cant believe they didnt quit
yeah its fun for story / casual play
no?
most of d2's launch complaints was that the ychanged things from d1
to spread it i guess
EA model, microtransactions
but yeah d2 did some things to go back to more like d1
and man the HDR pops so fucking good in it, dark areas i cant see shit
i turned off hdr in the past lol
bad as in its too good you cant see shit in dark areas
its too realistic
who's a witcher 3 expert?
im curious how close i am to end of main story if i should just go ahead and finish it
||I just got the sunstone||
though i guess that statements vague enough didnt even need to spoiler it lol
means nothing until your at that point in the game 😛 lol
like how many hours of story left do i got
34 i think
golden gust
Kinda loved having a DS, kinda wanted to get more to toy with homebrew and stuff, so, got an R4 card and such, and did play with some homebrew, but, council estate money meant, erm... yea...
slim nymph
im a bit over leveled vs every story element ive done
since the DLC's are targetting 32+ lol
i dunno how i out leveled it so much, ive not even done too many witcher contracts, still tons of quests i didnt do, im not using the XP boosting trophies
golden gust
portable consoles are very weird, because personally, I wouldn't wanna play like a 6 hour game on it unless the game was that good, but, like, the DS just had you glued to it
slim nymph
im using the herb boosting trophy
golden gust
all of my siblings had one, so we kinda just took them to bed with us to arrange esponage missions
yea, was a GBA slot
The DSLite was kinda dumb there, never had any GBA gays, but seeing how far the cards stuck out was like o.O
I mean, I'd argue these days, get an R4 card or something
slim nymph
Don't think I've really seen a 4k 120 TV at a decent resolution for a decent price
@golden gust main thing is that this setup is now brand new, nothings pushed TV's to need this until now. so yeah all of them are just now coming out and introductory prices
golden gust
Depends on what you're gonna do with it
if you want the DSi stuff, get the DSI, if you don't care, save a few bucks and get a lite
all the cloud stuff was dead last I recall?
Well, it doesn't have a gba slot last I knew
So, if you wanna go the legit way, no
slim nymph
though I did see some TV's for 1k cat that was 65" IIRC, so compared to TV prices 10-15 years ago, still not too bad
my current TV acts funky at times and only supports the old Dolby Vision spec, which xbox doesnt support, so i need to upgrade sometime but ima try to wait
merry talon
isn't there an easy solution to bots? lol
make people verify their identity beforehand and limit to one
actually you know what
they don't give a shit as long as it sells
slim nymph
their store reputation
they do care about rep
that matters long term vs a quick burst of sales
get 1k sales vs bots and tarnish rep, vs 1k sales and improve rep, they lose money on bots
slim nymph
"most people", the US has lots of choices lol
target, gamestop
gamestop actually did a queue for online purchases
only one i knew that did
merry talon
which is exactly why they often have stock when others don't
when i used to buy games the night of release there'd be a huge line outside the best buy and basically no one at the walmart in the same parking lot
untold copper
xd
merry talon
very good for a TV
vernal moth
Man, you can really see if a day was a good work day based on phone battery
70% left
And that's with watching YouTube while cooking
Normally I end my day with like 30%
visual egret
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visual egret
.g bukkit creator
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void void
wtf
visual egret
oh
limber knotBOT
technically they own the people who made it so...
visual egret
oh no
void void
lmao 
desert siren
Hi guys i'm using paper 1.16.4 latest version, i'm getting the "Not enough space" error when the server tries to write a chunk. But on my disk i have 40gb free. Anyone can help me to solve?
twin lagoon
well your server doesn't have enough space
check your disk usage
check if you have disk limits in your panel if you use it
@minor badge uwu
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@twin lagoon uwu
twin lagoon
desert siren
check your disk usage
@twin lagoon with df -h i got
Total 300G Used 247G Free 39G
twin lagoon
@desert siren do you use a panel
desert siren
nope it's a vps
paper without multicraft
i've just tried to upload a 2gb file (random file) and it works
but paper doesn't save chunks
yes it is
worn ember
does it work outside of a container?
desert siren
i don't know, it's a web hosting service
merry talon
wat.
slim nymph
lmao talk about some hype for tetris... https://twitter.com/Xbox/status/1326295767632420864
desert siren
what is the command to force save chunks to disk? /save-all?
twin lagoon
./save-all flush
desert siren
save-all flush
[17:29:52 INFO]: Saving the game (this may take a moment!)
[17:29:52 INFO]: ThreadedAnvilChunkStorage (world): All chunks are saved
[17:29:52 INFO]: ThreadedAnvilChunkStorage (DIM-1): All chunks are saved
[17:29:52 INFO]: ThreadedAnvilChunkStorage (DIM1): All chunks are saved
[17:29:52 INFO]: Saved the game
seems to be saved
vernal moth
lmao talk about some hype for tetris... https://twitter.com/Xbox/status/1326295767632420864
@slim nymph tetris effect is a really cool experience tho
At least in VR
olive marlin
You should join it under 127.1 without assigning it to ip in the server properties.
Although you are getting the server pinged?
vernal moth
Don't think that's supposed to work
visual egret
it doesent work non locally either
visual egret
yeah of course
vernal moth
Remove tcpshield to test
twin lagoon
lol
well that one is weird since if you have the up to date tcpshield plugin
it should show you rejected connections
visual egret
i downloaded it about a week ago
slim nymph
holy hell look at the size of this heat sink lol https://youtu.be/EFAdFprWKm4?t=496
visual egret
also how would i limit players joining to only a certain versions using protocolsupport
lets say i only want to allow 1.9+ clients
vernal moth
It's as big as a pc heatsink?
visual egret
and am on a 1.16.4 server
pastel pivot
Lol someone just showed me this code and said it's valid java:
int x = 10;
while (x --> 0) { // x goes to 0
System.out.println(x);
}
I was totally confused.
Until I noticed that it's actually while ((x--) > 0).
slim nymph
@vernal moth ive seen some big heat sinks but never that big
vernal moth
Took me a second but I know stuff like that
Stupid ppl in uni trying stupid stuff to fuck over the profs
It's hard to tell what's actually the heat sink and what's not
Well, because console are always sold at a loss
And economics of scale
slim nymph
oh nice he shows how they solved RROD from 360
@vernal moth expected build cost for both are around 450, so only the PS Digital should be at loss
slim nymph
eh prob materials
so i guess yeah
https://youtu.be/EFAdFprWKm4?t=726 that makes the heat sink clearer lol
vernal moth
Watching the full vid now
vernal moth
Hehe, ppl trying to run servers on sandy bridge in #old-forum-feed
Good old sandy bridge
slim nymph
thats how a lot of people got their preorders, having it still in cart waiting for things to come up / restock
muted portal
Just go to the store and wait there until one shows up
wide chasm
Or just wait a couple of months
slim nymph
lol....
cosmic raft
i dont get it
slim nymph
idiots are blowing vape into their console to make it look like its smoking
the 3rd item is a vape
golden gust
and the floating ping pong ball thingy
slim nymph
and yeah the fan can keep a ping pong ball floating
golden gust
"jet cooled"
twin lagoon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xA8-6X8aR3o lmao what is this comment section
worn ember
@spare venture you shouldn't spend your donation money on other stuff smh smh
twin lagoon
he's belgian he's dumb
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the "smh smh" indicates it's a joke
twin lagoon
@minor badge 😔
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@twin lagoon 😔
twin lagoon
@meager tusk 
slim nymph
doesnt double smh cancel each other out
barty roughly how many hours do i got left in witcher
like if i had no side quest distraction, finish by tomorrow if i played both evenings?
that seems too risky for spoilers
meager tusk
@twin lagoon 
slim nymph
so 5 quests
??? wtf is this achievement?
is this something for DLC?
3 is amazing
i wanna complete the gwent card achievement
wonder if i can increase difficulty for final boss and get that lol
i need to upgrade my potions and oils first
magic river
Based on an apparent leak of a Geekbench 5 score it looks like a MacBook Air with the new M1 chip beats the 5950X in single core and beats the 3600X in mulitcore
Still no fan
That's in geekbench which is basically measuring burst performance though
green turret
Is it finally time for me to replace my Late 2013 MBP?
slim nymph
@green turret are you new here 😛
magic river
At this point you should ride that laptop in to the ground
green turret
I gotta say I'm super disappointed in the memory options. I would have liked a 32 GB option.
slim nymph
kang doesn't have the greatest of reputations
magic river
If you keep it past 5 years you clearly don't have a strong need to upgrade
Lack of 32GB is probably going to keep me from getting it
green turret
Hahah Aikar, I know, I just sometimes wonder if he is just a total idiot or if he is trolling. I can't understand why he is so infinitely greedy and entitled.
magic river
But there are supposed to be more MBPs around May and I'm hoping the 14" exists and will have more RAM
green turret
Ahh right
magic river
But unless they want to use DDR4 instead of LPDDR4 you have to do tricky things with the memory controller to get more than 24GB right now
green turret
Yeah I don't have a "super strong" need to upgrade. But it is running on 8 GB memory, which means a couple of Chrome tabs and one IntelliJ instance and I'm about capped and swapping :/
magic river
12GB is the biggest LPDDR4 chip you can get and you can normally only use two chips
8GB is the biggest LPDDR5 apparently
green turret
The one thing I enjoy about working from home is that I have hardware that is only 5 years old rather than 8 😛 At least I have 16 GB in my desktop.
Ahhh, that explains a lot I guess.
mossy vessel
Today I upgraded some of my hardware for the first time lul
magic river
There are phones that have done the tricks to use more than two chips without doing more than dual channel but it complicates the memory controller and uses more power
Not nearly as much as quad channel would but still
green turret
I really prefer to have my gear for as long as possible. I'm usually very "behind" on my tech, but I also really hate spending money on anything that costs more than 20 bucks.
magic river
Also from Geekbench, the iGPU on the MBA is a little better than a GTX 1050 at OpenCL
mossy vessel
, former applies to me as well. I barely have new components
slim nymph
wait have you beat it or not then lol, or do you mean replays?
i hope they do better with crafting in cyberpunk, witchers system was a major fail
quasi valley
I pretty much ignored all of that and was happy without it 😂
slim nymph
yes i have all these materials, that i have to choose between dismantle for material or sell for money. but now i have all this money with nothing to spend it on, and all this crafting materials im never using
you cant go back to yellow tier armor after getting orange, repair rate is just too annoying
plus stats usually downgrade even if base armor is higher
i got full cat gear at superior atm
from potions? healing pots are pretty good lol.
and some good decoctions
like auto heal on attack or ever increasing vitality/attack per hit
yeah gotta go sell em lol
i might finish that next tier upgrade to cat gear then do rest of story
and respec some,
i know theres another sex opportunity in one of the dlc's, but then id be cheating on Triss!
This scene has so much fucking "THIS!!!!" behind it on why I chose Triss over Yen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aybi2iWafgM
it feels like the game creators agree to put it worded so well into the game lol
||by force, not fate||
and you break it in the story
magic river
I never finished Witcher 3
Game was too long, three times I started from the beginning because I forgot what was going on after putitng it down for a while, first one I was trying to do everything, second one I was trying to do side quests I remembered were interesting, third one I was only doing the main quest
Geralt and Yennifer always felt like two people new to romance playing a game, exploring what it was like and how far they could push things
I also may have cheated and watched the TV show and read some of the first book (not the book Season 1 of the TV show covers)
vernal moth
I need to figure out what I promised everyone to work on today
lol
kash I don't need to look at anymore since its done
lets see about this client of mine that complained
slim nymph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zA1efN9u5Q is the quest that g oes into detail about the yen/gerald link and how it is broken, its the quest where you confirm romance with yen.
left swift
U into some shit aikar
quasi valley
"the uma romance" hahaha
slim nymph
https://youtu.be/ckWQEt0cxEI?t=537 this was one of the best scenes in the damn game lol, the 3 are totally smashed drunk
quasi valley
amazing
twin lagoon
@minor badge 
mossy vessel
@twin lagoon 👀
slim nymph
and if you've never rejected yenn before, heres what happenes later lol....: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dq6Tfs1VzA ends at 2:30
vernal moth
yeah I finally managed to finish that, lol
magic river
zero pad chunks?
twin lagoon
we have a 700gb skyblock world rn, zstd + zero pad would be very nice lmao
golden gust
muh compression of backups, or something, iirc
that zstd patch is honestly somewhat on the backburner because muh morons
Think I said I was okay with it but it can't be exposed in the options at all, and defo not something we have people recommending to others...
magic river
Oh I see, you write zeros to the unused space in region files so they compress better
Instead of leaving old chunk data in there
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i mean, might as well just do a system property for it, cat?
twin lagoon
defo not something we have people recommending to others...
why?
well, i can imagine some reasons but just wondering
magic river
Does zstd give a noticeable improvement over DEFLATE for chunk data?
vernal moth
because if you enable something where you can't go back, without knowing the risk, its bad
yes
the PR has data
twin lagoon
fair enough i'd probably have a system property then
like a key to make the options function, generating in the config seems fine
cedar spade
A system property that enables a config option that prompts the user to run a confirmation command in-game that pauses the server and waits for someone to click a button in a web UI to enable it
golden gust
Can't be a system property because per-world
twin lagoon
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Paper.world.<worldname>.compression-algo
vernal moth
cedar spade
like a key to make the options function, generating in the config seems fine
This seems fine tho?
ashen cliff
INB4
debian-1.15-papermc-zstd.flag
ashen cliff
It better.
golden gust
I don't feel the need to bastardize it too much
ashen cliff
Make sure to use 1 lib that no longer exists.
golden gust
Just, keep it out of the way of the general server owner
magic river
Wow it compresses better, compresses faster, and decompresses faster
twin lagoon
zstd is amazing
ashen cliff
👏
golden gust
system properties are generally inaccessible to most, which, pros and cons...
magic river
I didn't expect it to be more than 2x better
ashen cliff
Welcome to new technology.
magic river
Yeah but the chunk data is in a format that DEFLATE should handle really well
slim nymph
dunno if we really need it to be per world
ashen cliff
Make it per chunk. 
slim nymph
but im fine with the goal, only thing id like to see is to intentionally corrupt the world file to make sure spigot cant load it anymore
to perma break ever going back to spigot
ashen cliff
Well. The PR outlines that scenario.
golden gust
issue is that by default, vanilla/spigot will just drop that data and re-gen it
vernal moth
I have seen ppl going back to spigot before to downgrade a world, since paper blocks that
ppl are so dum
slim nymph
yeah, id like to hard crash spigot on world load
ashen cliff
It should offer a flag to revert back to normal.
golden gust
people are dumb and will reset their worlds and scream at us
ashen cliff
So we can just remove that.
limber knotBOT
just make a backup of the world folder and create a fully fresh world in that case. now it technically "loads" but "oh no, it can't load the chunks so it resets them. thank god paper makes autoamtic backups!"
golden gust
You'd need to flip the setting back and --forceUpgrade
slim nymph
i think just breaking level.dat is sufficient
golden gust
That's gonna be the only real option, tbqh
twin lagoon
hm that reminds me my paper.yml resets every now and then on one of my servers
would be nice for paper to crash if it detects different compression somehow
actually no that's stupid since it can probably just read the new compression & save in the default if that ever happened
golden gust
In the case of unknown compression formats, your options are 1) reset the chunk 2) stop the server
twin lagoon
well if it's still implemented as patch but you choose a difference compression method e.g. default
and you'd load a chunk saved in zstd
would it have issues?
limpid comet
243 wpm just got hit
twin lagoon
worn ember
kaas kaas kaas
stiff yarrow
Quick resume is so nice
vernal moth
gonna try to see whats up with that game test framework in the snapshots now
maybe I can get it to run
golden gust
lmk when you try it again
cedar spade
inb4 it's debug code mojang forgot to strip that disappears in 20w47a
vernal moth
nah
its meant to ship in the client am sure
this was easy
theres a IS_RUNNING_IN_IDE flag
I have now clue how any of this works 😂
golden gust
now clue
vernal moth
come at me
ah
it expects to find some functions
idk how to register stuff
this is weird
heck
they stripped the register method using proguard
pffffffff
I wonder if I should ask ppl to not strip this
lol
worn ember
stripping bad
left swift
Stripped oak
left swift
Couldn't be me
worn ember
vernal moth
does somebody know what snbt is?
quasi valley
serialized nbt
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stringified NBT according to wiki
quasi valley
made in hell
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Another more user-friendly format of NBT is in plain string, as used in commands. This format is referred to as SNBT, short for stringified NBT. It is different from the JSON format; hence, any JSON used in NBT, such as raw JSON text, must be enclosed within a string tag.
left swift
Super nerd bathing time
vernal moth
oh god
{pos: [4, 1, 4], state: "minecraft:chest{facing:north,type:single,waterlogged:false}", nbt: {Items: [{Count: 1b, Slot: 0b, id: "minecraft:polished_andesite"}, {Count: 1b, Slot: 1b, id: "minecraft:polished_andesite"}, {Count: 1b, Slot: 2b, id: "minecraft:polished_andesite"}, {Count: 1b, Slot: 3b, id: "minecraft:polished_andesite"}, {Count: 1b, Slot: 4b, id: "minecraft:polished_andesite"}, {Count: 1b, Slot: 11b, id: "minecraft:polished_andesite"}, {Count: 64b, Slot: 12b, id: "minecraft:polished_andesite"}, {Count: 1b, Slot: 13b, id: "minecraft:polished_andesite"}, {Count: 49b, Slot: 14b, id: "minecraft:polished_andesite"}, {Count: 1b, Slot: 15b, id: "minecraft:polished_andesite"}, {Count: 1b, Slot: 16b, id: "minecraft:polished_andesite"}, {Count: 1b, Slot: 19b, id: "minecraft:polished_andesite"}, {Count: 1b, Slot: 20b, id: "minecraft:polished_andesite"}, {Count: 1b, Slot: 23b, id: "minecraft:polished_andesite"}, {Count: 2b, Slot: 24b, id: "minecraft:polished_andesite"}, {Count: 1b, Slot: 25b, id: "minecraft:polished_andesite"}], id: "minecraft:chest"}},
kek
so mojang exports the test structures as snbt
first to nbt then to snbt
I guess they do that so they can check them into git
worn ember
no wonder their QA suqq
vernal moth
this is all new DED
potent fossil
does snbt use single quotes for literal json string values?
vernal moth
this is gonna lead to so much less bugs
cause mojang is running automated tests now
integration tests I guess
quasi valley
nah this is how to do tests https://twitter.com/henrikkniberg/status/1326917454786859008?s=20
worn ember
monkas
vernal moth
can a class have no ctor?
ah it can be private I guess
when there is no ctor defined that I can see in fernflower
declared ctors retunrs an empty array
ah yes
"This method returns an array of length 0 if this Class object represents an interface, a primitive type, an array class, or void."
yeah that class is none of those
urg
guess proguard broke the class
cause there is a ctor there normally (with arguments), but proguard removes it
ok, how can I create an instance without calling a ctor? 😂
vernal moth
proguard removes all kind of stuff, yes
potent fossil
but ctors are required to instantiate o.O
agile ledge
i'm upgrading my server to 1.16.4, rip the uptime
https://i.ronthecookie.me/ncv5JO8.png
potent fossil
ok
vernal moth
the class doesnt need to be instanciated
agile ledge
412 damn hours and this is why its going down
potent fossil
well then that makes sense. but why do you need to instantiate it then :p
vernal moth
its test stuff no normal user will ever touch
its designed to run in ide
but I want to touch it 😄
potent fossil
maaaaybe you can inject a constructor with reflection magicz?
(i have no idea if thats possibru)
vernal moth
maybe mixns can help
potent fossil
i dont think my new bidet is gonna get here today :((
what the FUCK is this 😹 https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/unacceptable-forum-practices.471839/page-3#post-3995368
limber knotBOT
what are these posts lul
limber knotBOT
spigot drama still alive I c
left swift
Hey robo
potent fossil
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@vernal moth For future instances, you can use Unsafe for instantiating stuff w/o ctors
vernal moth
imagine a world full of this, bunch of beacons and then ppl running around checking the books 😄
I used ReflectionFactory now to create a new ctor
limber knotBOT
guys
we just need to form our own academy
big boost to paper forums
make a category for it
mossy vessel
Papercademy
limber knotBOT
then it'll be year of the paper forum instead of spigot
green turret
Hahahaha loved that ImThatBuyer777 guy
left swift
Hangar
void void
donkeymule
green turret
trashdonkey*
mossy vessel
green turret
You guys remember that old plugin reviewer guy, James Costen I think? Way back. He wanted to review MobArena so I was like yeah sure. He publishes the video saying "... plugin made by... gar-bag-ga-mole... garbaggamole, I think that's how you pronounce it". So the entire video, every time he mentions me (I'm playing a session with him), he keeps saying garbaggamole.
limber knotBOT
no I don't remember but I'm laughing already
green turret
So I messaged him "just FYI, my name is what it is because 'trashdonkey' was taken on gmail"
radiant notch
Who can give the version 1.16.2 of paper spigoT?
unreal quarry
@radiant notch #announcements pinned message
radiant notch
NOOOOOO
green turret
He's like "omg I'm so embarrassed I have to redo the video..."
radiant notch
that's not work
golden gust
"not work"
unreal quarry
that's not work
@radiant notch what url did you try?
green turret
Yes you do!
radiant notch
That's the reason of I can't understand what I have to do
worn ember
whats a spigot
potent fossil
thonk
golden gust
Go to #announcements and see the pins
formal turret
hi
unreal quarry
i mean, just looking at the links should give enough context for anyone of any language to understand what to do next...
golden gust
There are examples there
golden gust
no
radiant notch
A good person here?
golden gust
It's /really/ not that hard
limpid comet
Christ garbagemule fucked kangarko
potent fossil
He always fucks people who are stupid
golden gust
ITT: we create a GoFundMe for trashdonkeys skrink
green turret
Hahahaha
green turret
Hey Jhoseu, you think you're not very good at English, but you're doing fine. You're better than this random person from a private WoW server I played on years ago:
[Nicegirll]: need good boy for by coins only 21 molten have good boy????or no!only -30
potent fossil
green turret
Still not sure what that meant. I kept some of the funny messages on a Twitter account, WarmaneQuotes
Christ garbagemule fucked kangarko
It's been a somewhat stressy day, and kangarko's drivel was just a bit too much.
green turret
Hahahah
potent fossil
A few months ago somebody else posted some equally stupid thread (might've been kangaroo himself) and mule destroyed OP so hard that staff had to lock the thread 5 mins after
Nobody should battle mule
He's too powerful
golden gust
The adblock rule was fun
waxen panther
green turret
The adblock rule was so good.
limber knotBOT
I must've missed tat
worn ember
kaas kaas kaas
limber knotBOT
that
limber knotBOT
sum1 link me pls
twin lagoon
it got so bad md_5 stepped in and locked the spigot discord for an entire hour
he literally played as a lawyer or something
limber knotBOT
also, if anyone can tell me about this dropped items too quickly thingy
twin lagoon
spigot was just FUCKED for a day or two
golden gust
and then somebody literally started documenting the shitty behavior from him
was kinda fun
worn ember
ah yes the famous google doc
twin lagoon
no that's the original
green turret
twin lagoon
what the fuck is the url
thank you
yeah so simple bought the .net
and then a few people created that document
funny thing is that he DMCA'd the original document so you're missing out on some mineacademy branding™️
green turret
He is such a twat, honestly.
worn ember
if i had to screenshot spigot drama every time i'd run out of storage
green turret
Well basically Mini posted a guide on how to set up adblock rules against kangarko's sad excuse for learning material.
kangarko didn't like that because "oh no my livelihood is in jeopardy"
So he threatened legal action, the shitty little douche nugget.
limber knotBOT
I think I remember the bstats ban but the issue has been deleted
green turret
Yeah, the issue was deleted by request.
limber knotBOT
Sad to see jealousy even among my colleagues.
green turret
Hahah thanks. I just hope I don't get banned.
limpid comet
I'd be surprised, but this is md
left swift
420 make a wish
unreal quarry
i think my response hit him, too. he deleted the bits i pointed out as a blatant ad
cedar spade
Hello yes I heard my name
green turret
Hi MD (the best one)!
golden gust
TIL how easy it is to create a filter list
green turret
Help
Cat, you must help me!
Oh wait I have it
www.spigotmc.org##.externalLink[href*="mineacademy.org"]
trim steeple
green turret
Nice!
golden gust
dun, dun, duuun
See, my main excuse is so I can just sync them between my laptop easily without having to fluff around
magic river
GNOME 40
unreal quarry
So I messaged him "just FYI, my name is what it is because 'trashdonkey' was taken on gmail"
@green turret everytime you mention trashdonkey was taken I hear brass monkey start playing in my head https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0dxhSPoBjY
green turret
Ahahahah Billy xD
unreal quarry
yes barty
magic river
(btw GNOME 40 comes out in like 4 months)
green turret
Traaash donkey, that stubborn donkey!
unreal quarry
i dont see how anyone can even try to argue with him. its like trying to hold a conversation with a late night infomercial on cable tv. lmao
limber knotBOT
guess he's one of those people that find it easier to "hack people" than "hack code"
potent fossil
well fuck thinking i just killed it
magic river
Sometimes you can just wait, sometimes you need to close and reopen the file, sometimes you need to close and reopen the IDE
plucky canopy
literally a fucking google document
potent fossil
im absolutely not going to click that
plucky canopy
its a google doc
zealous wedge
yikes
plucky canopy
its not gonna kill you lol
zealous wedge
how about no
magic river
Weird, Discord wouldn't let me type either
plucky canopy
LMao
tru
I own a server for my college
I'm also secretly running an ARG on it bc I cant do that irl anymore
The players actually have zero clue its me and its perfect
limber knotBOT
why have a public google doc when you could have a public onenote notebook
that's more fun
plucky canopy
lol
minor otter
the #paper-dev channel has been moved to EsperNet, is that another discord server or is it this website?? https://esper.net/getting_started.ph
limber knotBOT
A lot of mc projects are on epser
magic river
I'd say they should be on freenode but you actually have to be opensource or talking about things related to opensource 😛
golden gust
We reached the limit of the spigot network, 5 registered channels, so, we hopped over to where our frens are
plucky canopy
a whopping 5 channels lol
limber knotBOT
I actually don't have that many channels on freenode, tho
formal turret
is there anything out on launch day for the ps5 anyways?
magic river
I had a PS5 in my cart on walmart earlier
limber knotBOT
I'm probably not getting any of em soon
magic river
Then the site died a couple times getting to checkout and once the checkout loaded I decided I didn't want it anyway
I did it in the first 30 seconds after they added new stock
left swift
How can u have problems loading a cart just put the ps5 in it and go to the checkout lol
magic river
Decided I'm not going to be able to play it this weekend and in a couple weeks things I'll probably just be able to get it in person
limber knotBOT
Don't yall know someone at your local store you can bribe for one? lol
magic river
I used to know a guy like that, then he went to jail for fraud because he was also just taking things from the store 😛
waxen panther
limber knotBOT
no motion controls = no interest from me
Aren't that those things looking like glow sticks? lol
I don't have the ps3 whatever motion whatever
I've got Wii and Kinect
merry talon
wait barty I think you can get one from joe
limber knotBOT
It does probably the same ig
meh
Sounds more like an on top thingy
I do remember them though and initially thinking "oh cool it's like wii and Kinect put together" but at that time I didn't even own an xbox and I can soundly say the Kinect is much better and I'm very sad it is ded
merry talon
joe momma
limber knotBOT
I haven't touched my ps4 for years. The last title I played was rdr2
Hence I don't go for new consoles, they will most likely end up like my current
acoustic pilot
There's like a lifetime of JRPGs I could play on just the PS3 alone from PSN 😛
All the PS1 and PS2 classics, and many of the PS3 games too
lol I think they removed all the PS3 games including the PS1/2 classics from their store. I wonder if I still can play them
stiff yarrow
Wow thank god I had Amazon notifications on my phone
Based
I had my phone on my lap and Amazon buzzed me the moment it went in stock
Such panic filling that order in time
I have the Amazon app
I probably got my order in within 30 seconds of the notification going out
Uhh when ps5 was out of stock there was a message or remind me button and I clicked that
magic river
I may have found my next weekend project https://leon0410898.github.io/XPS13-9300-hackintosh/
Turns out someone ported the OpenBSD Intel wifi driver, although it only supports 802.11n mode even on ac and ax chips
left swift
Did you check under bofa
stiff yarrow
The adrenaline from ordering the ps5 is just wearing off
My hands have been shaking lol
Barry don’t try for the digital version they make less of them
left swift
Barry haha
short yarrow
viral hornet
@twin lagoon 🥺
twin lagoon
🥺
olive marlin
Gradle multi-project documentation is quite 
Spent 2 hours configuring simple cli...
potent fossil
okay that thread is devolving because viper showed up in the thread
they're talking about god and jesus and friendliness now
worn pasture
oh shit it's finally released
worn pasture
LOL nvm
limpid comet
aren't apple verification servers down
that's why installs are failing
idk i saw something on twitter about that
potent fossil
BITCH ASS APPLE
limpid comet
bitch 👏 ass 👏 apple
limpid comet
PUTANGINA MO!!!!
magic river
Their OCSP server is down, at least
limpid comet
PUTANGINA NI APPLE?!?!?!
potent fossil
yes
limpid comet
yay
potent fossil
good job
limpid comet
thanks simple
magic river
Unless you null it out in your /etc/hosts that makes every app take forever to start while it tries repeatedly to verify them
limpid comet
is ni just referring to another thing
potent fossil
ni refers to a proper noun
magic river
Because starting apps on macOS involves a network request
limpid comet
ok cool
green turret
simple, consider the fact that Viper managed to derail and defuse the kangarko thread by advertising his Bible plugin. He literally beat kangarko on his home turf. I love it!
magic river
It fails open though so if you disconnect from the internet or block the connection to that server you're fine
worn pasture
Stop using apple
@viral hornet ok i'll just tell my work to get me a new laptop
green turret
I would have thought it would be locked by now. I like that a new post just outed kangarko for readjusting his lowered prices. I hope they get lowered again xD
viral hornet
Which thread? 
green turret
Latest kangarko drama thread on Spigot.
green turret
If you make it to my posts, please let me know which insult you liked the most.
worn pasture
@potent fossil try it now
working for me
lol nvm errored during download
wtf apple sort your fucking shit out
viral hornet
worn pasture
how does a trillion dollar company fuck this up so bad oml
viral hornet
@green turret well fucking done haha
true canyon
Is this the end of tenver?
cosmic raft
@true canyon hm?
true canyon
potent fossil
I think big sur wouldn't install for me because I had a pending catalina update smh
worn pasture
it's actually 12
merry talon
twin lagoon
@worn pasture Show poosi
upper flicker
been on it since the first beta
their release version is pretty nice
the fact that their servers went down and lagged out every app you tried to open wasnt good though
ancient bolt
I...don't u nderstand how that like
could happen
how could their servers going down cause my macbook to slow to a crawl
i mean it's definitely an unintended consequence and I'm sure they'll address it
it's just like, damn
upper flicker
they check for cert revocations
their server was timing out
its honestly not a great practice but most of the time shit works and people dont notice
Ive had similar issues when my ISP has problems, mac sits at a crawl until I disconnect from wifi
but then I cant access my home network goodies 😦
though you can null route it to solve the problem, or firewall it
ancient bolt
i mean i get what it's doing and I don't mind the idea in general
but locking up the whole system when stuff doesn't work.....isn't good
upper flicker
thats how they want it
their idea of failure was no internet, server rejects connections, etc
not "wow its just never responding, lets wait"
even windows will timeout and let you through on smartscreen
ancient bolt
they don't handle this type of failure correctly
upper flicker
there are dozens of radar tickets about it from catalina
ancient bolt
hrm
upper flicker
unless the HN outrage crowd does it
upper flicker
I wish they didnt send a hash of every app either but lol
just fucking do that local and sync it up but lol
ancient bolt
i could see apple doing something this time just because of how massive the impact was across the board
upper flicker
I hope they fix it, I really wish that they fix it
I just suspect they wont
theyll fix it by adding another couple HA server clusters or something
upper flicker
lol
tbh I was impressed windows added that
Apple has had their own version of that for years
its just off by default
I think MS has adjusted it so its LAN only now by default
ancient bolt
linux has technically been doing it forever 
upper flicker
Apple's was always LAN only as well
which I kinda like, if I have multiple windows machines and one has to download it and you can sig check that sure
if I had more than one mac I'd make one of them a cache too
idk if I liked their earlier behavior of doing that for internet systems as well
but uh, at least its changed now? I guess?
ancient bolt
at my company IT told us to wait to install big sur so they could test software to see if it works and I'm just like 🙄
worn pasture
that windows update thing takes up so much space on your drive. or at least i think it was that.
ancient bolt
big sur beta has been out for months, 95%+ of everyone at the company runs it, why haven't you checked this already
stiff yarrow
Mac has AV?
ancient bolt
yes several vendors
I don't have AV on my work machine
i know other departments have some kind but engineering doesn't
upper flicker
we have a hold on it because AV, but if youre on the inside you can test all you want just dont be a moron and uninstall your AV before updating
what we have a super hold on is the M1 ARM macs because lol we're gonna have to test all the things for not just big sur but arm
ancient bolt
afaik my company gives us new computers every few years so in a couple years maybe they'll give me an arm mac. That'll be fun
being a java shop it really doesn't matter
except for the 1 guy on the macos client "team"
but from what I've heard setting up the universal binary stuff is really easy and seems to work well enough
warm anchor
How was it
potent fossil
never had to report
potent fossil
i mean, i did serve
limber knotBOT
they tried to send one to me and told 'em nope, not 3 years yet
potent fossil
i just didn't have to report
i did my duty :)
but yeah, they do pay you if you have to report
limber knotBOT
ok, "serve on a case" or w/e the terminology is
potent fossil
fair enough
limber knotBOT
have you ever been on a case
potent fossil
nope that was my first service
potent fossil
Last time my mom got called she was dismissed (she intended to be dismissed) by telling the judge to defendant was guilty because he was a man
limber knotBOT
lul
fortunately it was in the summer and somehow I didn't get dismissed by other side so, ya. I got some gp v20 work done lol
great way to "find time to refactor" stuff
airplanes being the other good place
potent fossil
god last plane i was on i brought my laptop but it was so cramped i didnt have a chance to pull it out and work
ancient bolt
only time I've ever found it reasonable to work on a plane is the 26 hours flight from LA to Sydney I was on once. But at that time I didn't have a computer anyways os yeah
potent fossil
i always buy the cheapest economy tho so i deserved the crampedness
but i saved a shitload of money
ancient bolt
but on such a long-haul trip the seats are a lot bigger, even in economy, so you actually have space for a computer, and the flight is long enough that there's no worry of having to quickly pack up as soon as you're settled in
potent fossil
so meh, evened out
I mean, my flight was 18 hrs from LA to Philippines
pretty long, not as long as yours
but whatever
ancient bolt
guess it depends on their airline and the plane you're on
limber knotBOT
southwest all day er day
ancient bolt
I was on a quantas 747
and it was only 26 hours because a volcano had erupted in the middle of our flight path
so we had to fly around the smoke
potent fossil
Yeah I flew xiamen air, a chinese airline, (cheapest tickets). It was not a very fancy plane
ancient bolt
I think the volcano was in indonesia? or something like that
ancient bolt
years ago, like 2011? maybe?
potent fossil
they do
worn pasture
was it the white island eruption in NZ?
that was december last year
oh you said 2011
looool nvm
ancient bolt
im definitely buying a ps5, probably won't buy an xbox
but I'm gonna wait for shit to settle down before I bother ordering one
upper flicker
I think the winner is whoever can ship units to customers
ancient bolt
so apple
upper flicker
as long as their ocsp cert server is up
stiff yarrow
afaik the xbox is the winner this round
@cosmic raft tbh it seems more like ps5 is winning from my POV with their controller hype both machines are nearly identical plus ps5 has exclusives and Xbox kind of doesn’t ( well sort of )
I’m playing Xbox right now and I think it’s great but I’m still more hyped for them Sony exclusives and apparently the dual sense is really neato
ancient bolt
if history says anything based on the ps4, ps5 is gonna have a lot more better exclusives
xbox just doesn't seem very interesting to me especially since the line between xbox and pc is so gray now with game pass
stiff yarrow
The Xbox is neat but I can see why it has less appeal to pc gamers easily
I don’t game on PC currently so it has something to offer me
PS4 exclusives were bangers and Xbox isn’t even trying to have exclusives so that definitely makes ps5 more tempting to me, with that said I have both ( well ps5 comes tomorrow )
And apparently the dual sense is actually really good from initial impressions
waxen panther
the new controller features are gimmicks
they'd be annoying if you're actually trying to play
fine for story games though i guess
stiff yarrow
If that’s true why are all the impressions of it so positive
waxen panther
people love da gimmicks
stiff yarrow
Even from some cynical game journalists praised it to death
Odds are it might actually be a straight up good innovation given the feedback so far
I got so lucky with my order earlier
thought I would be without a ps5 for 3-6 months easily
ancient bolt
I think they sound dope. Really excited to try it out
chrome quest
Does EssentialsX allow me to make "roles" that I can give to people so only certain people have access to certain commands and stuff?
Or should I be looking for another plugin for this?
ancient bolt
lol so the paperweight process involves decompiling both a SRG remapped jar as well as a spigot remapped jar, since I need both source sets. For compatibility with the different tooling systems I use the remapping and decompilation tools each toolchain uses.
forgeflower is mutli-threaded and uses all system resources available, but spigot's fernflower is single threaded. no surprise here, forge's finishes much sooner
cosmic raft
ancient bolt
Ahh beautiful
> Task :patchSpigotApi UP-TO-DATE
> Task :patchPaperApi UP-TO-DATE
> Task :downloadMcpFiles UP-TO-DATE
> Task :extractMcpConfig UP-TO-DATE
> Task :downloadMcpTools UP-TO-DATE
> Task :downloadServerJar UP-TO-DATE
> Task :filterVanillaJar UP-TO-DATE
> Task :extractMcpMappings UP-TO-DATE
> Task :mcpRewrites UP-TO-DATE
> Task :generateSrgs UP-TO-DATE
> Task :remapVanillaJarSrg UP-TO-DATE
> Task :injectVanillaJarSrg UP-TO-DATE
> Task :downloadMcManifest UP-TO-DATE
> Task :downloadMcVersionManifest UP-TO-DATE
> Task :setupMcLibraries UP-TO-DATE
> Task :downloadMcLibraries UP-TO-DATE
> Task :writeLibrariesFile UP-TO-DATE
> Task :decompileVanillaJarSrg UP-TO-DATE
> Task :applyMcpPatches UP-TO-DATE
> Task :addMissingSpigotClassMappings UP-TO-DATE
> Task :inspectVanillaJar UP-TO-DATE
> Task :generateSpigotSrgs UP-TO-DATE
> Task :remapVanillaJarSpigot UP-TO-DATE
> Task :removeSpigotExcludes UP-TO-DATE
> Task :decompileVanillaJarSpigot UP-TO-DATE
> Task :patchCraftBukkit UP-TO-DATE
> Task :patchSpigotServer UP-TO-DATE
> Task :patchSpigot UP-TO-DATE
> Task :downloadSpigotDependencies UP-TO-DATE
> Task :remapSpigotSources UP-TO-DATE
> Task :remapGeneratedAt UP-TO-DATE
> Task :remapSpigotAt UP-TO-DATE
> Task :mergeGeneratedAts UP-TO-DATE
> Task :applySourceAt UP-TO-DATE
> Task :mergeRemappedSources UP-TO-DATE
> Task :patchPaperServer UP-TO-DATE
> Task :patchPaper UP-TO-DATE
BUILD SUCCESSFUL in 989ms
35 actionable tasks: 35 up-to-date
paperweight 
zealous wedge
hooray
potent fossil
oh boy 🥵
worn pasture
Grab LuckPerms.
ew
waxen panther
pex 2.0, coming 2022
zealous wedge
2022 or later*
void void
What minigames you guys recommend for a server?
cosmic raft
yes
waxen panther
all of them
void void
thamls
waxen panther
That'll be $4.99
void void
maybe 0..99
waxen panther
$5.99 it is
void void
okay when
void void
mispelled some letter
waxen panther
worn pasture
professor x
nocturne falcon
what did i just witness
untold copper
gm uwu
waxen panther
gm ! !
waxen panther
imagine
serene ether
i just got a clyde message
that says
Your message could not be delivered because you don't share a server with the recipient or you disabled direct messages on your shared server, recipient is only accepting direct messages from friends, or you were blocked by the recipient.
waxen panther
Happens when you send a message and the client thinks your timer is up
serene ether
timer?
serene ether
k
void void
what does that mean
waxen panther
Early supporter