general

[twin lagoon]

yes

easily

https://owo.whats-th.is/7Gb9kNz.jpg

raytracing looks pretty

i finally got access to the beta after a month of waiting because microsoft store

[waxen panther]

awa

[worn ember]

why does that look like an entire different game

[untold copper]

yes

[worn ember]

god i'm glad i got a new laptop, my old one is still booting after 2 minutes

[twin lagoon]

it's a map

comes w/ resource pack

[untold copper]

@worn ember 2 mins?

[worn ember]

yes 2 minutes

[untold copper]

my pc takes a solid 5

[twin lagoon]

That's a fat L kiddo

[worn ember]

my new one takes like 20secs

if even that long

[untold copper]

10 year old hdd

still going

xD

[worn ember]

having an ssd makes things go so much faster

this laptop is also hdd

[untold copper]

sdd expensive much

[twin lagoon]

theyre cheap

[worn ember]

not that expensive anymore

[twin lagoon]

can get 120gb for just 20 eur now

[worn ember]

hdd's are dirt cheap now tho

[untold copper]

besides all my sata ports full

[worn ember]

just get bigger drives

[untold copper]

i have 4

[worn ember]

great now its just a black screen with a cursor

[untold copper]

1 is in 2tb hdd the old one

1 is 1tb new wd

1 is the cd reader

and 1 idk is used somewhere

[worn ember]

yeet the cd reader

[twin lagoon]

unplug the cd reader if you don't use it

lul

[untold copper]

no 👀

[worn ember]

yes

[untold copper]

its useful sometimes XD

[worn ember]

i still have a cd reader in my desktop if i ever need it

but tbh i havent used it much at all

i did use it today to test something tho

this thing still isnt fully booted yet, wtf how did i go through first year of college like this

[solid wigeon]

its good Windows Server 2016 or some linux only for MC?

[twin lagoon]

linux

[untold copper]

today i slept on the wrong pillow and now I can't move my neck

[twin lagoon]

avoid windows

[solid wigeon]

and which is best for low CPU usage and ram?

[twin lagoon]

linux

[untold copper]

l i n u x

[worn ember]

linux for sure

[solid wigeon]

i mean which linux 😄

[twin lagoon]

debian 10

[solid wigeon]

debian, ubuntu etc

[worn ember]

windows is easier to use but eats up resources

[golden gust]

Anything but cent™

[twin lagoon]

fuck centos

[worn ember]

i run everything on debian

[twin lagoon]

good

[worn ember]

as root

[solid wigeon]

MineOS :DDD

[untold copper]

@worn ember where can me find a list of your plugins?

[twin lagoon]

no

[solid wigeon]

it was a joke 😄 about mineos 😄

[worn ember]

@untold copper i only have one public one atm

[waxen panther]

lmao

[untold copper]

ohk

f

im aboutta finish fresh prince of bel air :c

sad

[solid wigeon]

and can hold it AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 4.6ghz (2 CPU - VDS)?

[worn ember]

i plan on doing a Random series, like random lootcrates and stuff in the future, maybe some other random stuff

not sure yet

[solid wigeon]

sorry for czech language

[waxen panther]

Dedi

[solid wigeon]

VDS 😄

[finite wave]

@worn ember Crates are boring

[twin lagoon]

VPS is bad

[golden gust]

2 cores is far from ideal for a MC server

VDS == VPS

It's just shitty pseudo-marketing

[worn ember]

Very Dedicated Server

[waxen panther]

Is that actually the opera gaming browser lmfao

[twin lagoon]

yes

[waxen panther]

bruh

[solid wigeon]

but 4.6ghz? is enought for MC

[potent fossil]

opera....what

[waxen panther]

no vps 😠

[golden gust]

Assuming right config, yea, that CPU is great last I recall, not really tracking AMD

[twin lagoon]

.g gigahertz myth

[golden gust]

Your only caveat is

1. It's a VPS
2. that core count is really low

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megahertz_myth -- Megahertz myth - Wikipedia: "The megahertz myth, or in more recent cases the gigahertz myth, refers to the misconception of only using clock rate to compare the performance of..."

[solid wigeon]

but some servers are running on VDS with 50-80 players

without lose TPS

[waxen panther]

they’re lying

[cinder hill]

@twin lagoon (sorry for ping) do you still sell sys admin services?

[twin lagoon]

yes

[cinder hill]

add me

[twin lagoon]

k

[waxen panther]

business man

[finite wave]

Lol

[solid wigeon]

when i set view-distance: 2 and no-tick-view-distance: 8?

[waxen panther]

bruh

[solid wigeon]

i dont need tick everything 😄

[potent fossil]

smart man

[untold copper]

guys why wont it work

[potent fossil]

what... are you trying to do

[untold copper]

its putting on same line 😦

it should put on next line

[golden gust]

min view distance is 3

Basically, yes, it's doable, with correct config, and correct hardware

[potent fossil]

first of all ids can only be used once in a file, if you want to reuse middle make it a class

[untold copper]

I'll do #fixed #middle

[golden gust]

as we keep saying, the specs of that look K, but, really boils down to if the provider is shitty, if you're on a box with noisy neighbours, etc, etc

2 cores is also once again, kinda crappy for tryna get a fair number of players on the server

[worn ember]

Are you a noisy neighor cat?

[potent fossil]

and recheck the positioning code, you probably tweaked it incorrectly. redo the lesson if you don't understand bc i dont believe they wouldn't explain it

[twin lagoon]

@potent fossil 🥺

[vernal bone]

The heck is hybrid dedicated server? 🤔

[twin lagoon]

a vps with lots of resources

[golden gust]

it's marketing wank

[potent fossil]

i won't plead back at you because that was payback for my earlier + interest

[vernal bone]

Is it good for mc?

[potent fossil]

but, i will start a new plead

@twin lagoon 🥺

[golden gust]

it's a VPS

Nothing more, nothing less

[twin lagoon]

🥺

[worn ember]

but when i want a hybrid dog its illegal smh

[twin lagoon]

@mental meadow @minor badge @quasi valley uwu

@viral hornet cunt

[minor badge]

@viral hornet uwu

@twin lagoon cunt

[twin lagoon]

wtf

[untold copper]

@potent fossil found it

[potent fossil]

wow!

[untold copper]

:)

[potent fossil]

i wonder why that didn't work!

[untold copper]

Its putting on same line cos #absolute is set to position absolute

[potent fossil]

yes i know i was being sarcastic

[untold copper]

oh

[viral hornet]

@minor badge
@twin lagoon Cunt

[twin lagoon]

hows auscraft

[waxen panther]

bad

its owner likes McDonald’s pickles

how fucked is that

[twin lagoon]

@viral hornet do you like mcdonalds pickles

[untold copper]

mcdonalds has pickleS?

[twin lagoon]

on burgers yes

[potent fossil]

mcdo pickles are pretty good

[worn ember]

ew

[waxen panther]

ew indeed

[worn ember]

they're already disgusting on their own, but mcdonalds theirs r even worse

[finite wave]

My feet are like pickles, i know a lot of people who'd want to lick em.

[untold copper]

pickles....

ew

[potent fossil]

did you know mcdonalds is one of the largest real estate companies in the world, even bigger than they are a restaurant chain

[untold copper]

o.O

[finite wave]

Yeah, i know i read it on reddit the other day.

[waxen panther]

yes

[potent fossil]

they make most of their money from collecting rent on their franchise buildings

[waxen panther]

I watched the mcdonalds film

[untold copper]

did you know subway is the largest food chain

[worn ember]

rent?

[untold copper]

franchise rent

[worn ember]

who do they rent it to?

[potent fossil]

yes they rent the buildings to the franchise owners

[finite wave]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJVj3vp-lho&pp=wgIECgIIAQ== @worn ember

[potent fossil]

the people who run the individual restaurants

[worn ember]

imagine wanting to own a mcdonalds lol

[potent fossil]

mcdonalds is a great way to start your own business, you just apply for a franchise and they rent you a building to run your dominion out of

except, you are part of their dominion

[hallow pawn]

Also, why would you ask this in the paper channel
I think the most popular server will get more responses when ask in the general channel QQ;; (Sorry if offended

[twin lagoon]

what

[finite wave]

?

[potent fossil]

sorry if offended

[twin lagoon]

???

[waxen panther]

it's a dumb question to ask in the paper discord lol

[finite wave]

What did he ask?

[twin lagoon]

what is his question even

[waxen panther]

its like going into mcdonalds and asking if you should order from burger king or kfc

he asked if he should use breadspigot or yatpia

[twin lagoon]

oh

pepega

[finite wave]

Oh it was that guy.

[twin lagoon]

popular servers don't use breadspigot and especially not yatopia

[waxen panther]

[worn ember]

more like ya nope ia

[potent fossil]

thats right. they use beerspigot /s

[finite wave]

I'm the owner of hypixel and i use breadspigot, what u on about Michael.

[worn ember]

10kb/s file transfer, man i love hdd's

[viral hornet]

wtf

[vernal bone]

That's my internet connection at peak times

[viral hornet]

if you get a chesseburger

[finite wave]

cunt

[viral hornet]

you need pickles/onion

[finite wave]

No

[golden gust]

10kb/s

[viral hornet]

Jan be quiet

[finite wave]

-n

[viral hornet]

Stop being wrong abou tthis

[finite wave]

No

[golden gust]

Tf you running that over? dialup?

[twin lagoon]

camm you fucking disgraceful piece of shit

[viral hornet]

wtf

[twin lagoon]

imagine liking pickles

[viral hornet]

wtf is wrong with all of you

[finite wave]

#religion so i can spew religious nonsense at Camm till he leaves thx.

[viral hornet]

fuck this shit

[twin lagoon]

camm send me a bunnings snag

[viral hornet]

nah suck it cunt

you wouldn't even get onion on it

[finite wave]

Offering?

[twin lagoon]

yes i would

onion is good

pickles aren't

[viral hornet]

YOU AREN'T GOOD

[golden gust]

onions are amazing

[finite wave]

Onions doesn't always fit in the burger, but pickles never fit.

[viral hornet]

Im gonna order a cheeseburger now

extra onion and pickles

[finite wave]

Disgusting Camm

[hallow pawn]

pickles (????

[golden gust]

.onions

[limber knot]

http://thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=onions

[finite wave]

You're a disgrace to the creations of god.

[hallow pawn]

||🤮||

[viral hornet]

Jan Im going to come aND DO SOMETHING TO YOU

[untold copper]

guys

[finite wave]

Will it be sexual?

[viral hornet]

yes 🥺

[finite wave]

I'm waiting.

[untold copper]

how do I make it so that discord.pixelcraftmc.net points to <insert discord invite>?

[viral hornet]

ok

but first cheeseburger

[golden gust]

point it to a web server that does a redirect

or, see if your DNS provider offers some feature for that

[finite wave]

I swear to god Camm, you eating pickles is such a disgusting thing.

[untold copper]

point it to a web server that does a redirect
wha?

[viral hornet]

:((

I"m honestly confused as to why people don't like them lol

They're so good in some things

[golden gust]

They're like somewhere between weird and bland

[untold copper]

no

[finite wave]

I don't want some sour ass thing on my tasty burger.

[untold copper]

indian pickles

are

[worn ember]

Tf you running that over? dialup?
@golden gust its from my old laptop to an usb, but its lots of little files so its super slow

[untold copper]

fricking amazing

[golden gust]

It's sorta like a kick in the balls

[untold copper]

so much flavour

spicy

sweet

whatever you want

[golden gust]

Like, yea, sure, it's what she's dishing, you know, you take what you're given

But, otherwise, you don't really want that, do you?

Well, unless you're Camm

[twin lagoon]

create an A record for discord. pointing to 192.0.2.1

proxy it

create a cloudflare pagerule, 301 forwarding rule to your discord url

[finite wave]

okay?

[viral hornet]

wtf Cat

shouldn't you be shitting on someones rug or something

[untold copper]

create a cloudflare pagerule, 301 forwarding rule to your discord url
this part i didnt get @twin lagoon

[twin lagoon]

pagerules page

forwarding url

[waxen panther]

@viral hornet hows ur rug

[finite wave]

Camm, bold of you to assume he hasn't shit on the rug yet?

[twin lagoon]

hows ur car @viral hornet

[untold copper]

this fine till now?

[twin lagoon]

no

proxy it

[untold copper]

ok

[finite wave]

Click the cloud

[viral hornet]

@waxen panther I hope it doesn't get raided 😦

[untold copper]

yes

[waxen panther]

camm

u didn't lock the door

no one needs to raid it

[viral hornet]

Car is good michael, need to do some work to it.

oh fuck

[waxen panther]

lmao

[golden gust]

You do know that you can go back and read the rest of the steps vs having him repeat them one by one again?

[viral hornet]

What burger do I want https://i.imgur.com/zNl6Huf.png

[golden gust]

Neither

[waxen panther]

angus

[viral hornet]

POG

[golden gust]

go for a jog u fat fuq

[viral hornet]

https://i.imgur.com/oICO9Go.png

[finite wave]

Eat healthy.

[viral hornet]

No I want maccas tonight

Don't judge me

Will do extra cardio tomorrow

[golden gust]

it has a bit of green on it

[worn ember]

they both look shit tbh xD

[finite wave]

"macass"

Cat, that green is probably worse than the beef.

It's macdonalds we are talking about

[golden gust]

mmmmm

plastic cheese

[viral hornet]

not macass

[vernal bone]

Plastic beef 🤔

[viral hornet]

maccas

[worn ember]

i wonder where they get such bad ingredients tbh, quite impressive

[finite wave]

India

[waxen panther]

i love their bad ingredients 🤤

[finite wave]

I mean, i'm not saying their burgers aren't tasty.

[clear siren]

sorry to slide in like this, but has anyone ever had a problem where players get a 2nd version of them lagging out in air, u gotta reload chunks for them to go away, paper 1.16

[finite wave]

#paper-help @clear siren

[waxen panther]

do your players also consume shrooms

[clear siren]

oh my bad

lmfaooo prob

[golden gust]

99% of the time, it's some dumb auth bs plugin

[worn ember]

their meat just tastes like nothing, their vegies taste like you're eating cardboard and their cheese tastes like something that isnt even cheese

[finite wave]

The meat taste quite salty here.

[waxen panther]

deds jealous

[worn ember]

totally

[clear siren]

#paper-help @clear siren
@finite wave thanks!

[waxen panther]

dota players never go outside so they couldn't try mcdonalds anyway

[worn ember]

theres a mcdo next to my college

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[waxen panther]

dont you make someone wear a go pro in your lectures

so you can play dota ?

[finite wave]

Lol, you probably have a lot of chonkers in your college ded.

Also, dafuq was that.

[waxen panther]

idk someone had a pig crisis

[worn ember]

nah they're recorded anyway

everything is online now anyway

i can play dota all day

40mins left to transfer 362mb

https://github.com/PlaceholderAPI/PlaceholderAPI/blob/4cfd419565abe04286098f0f98847626c1d3755e/src/main/java/me/clip/placeholderapi/util/FileUtil.java#L34 so i've been looking at this and i'm wondering if i should be using a classloader for this instead if i wanted something similar?

[finite wave]

idiot

#paper-dev

[worn ember]

buT itS nOt RELaTeD To PApeR

[twin lagoon]

very modern installer

[finite wave]

I think mikroskeem suggested this dark https://github.com/classgraph/classgraph

[untold copper]

@waxen panther more like these pigs had a crisis

[worn ember]

how many tags do you want?
Yes.

@finite wave i didnt see that :p thanks looks promising

[twin lagoon]

why are they using a raspberry pi as background picture for a server

lmao

[potent fossil]

stock images

[mossy vessel]

Because their clients have no clue what they are looking at anyway

[worn ember]

[ashen cliff]

[worn ember]

that shows up but spotify doesnt lol

[mossy vessel]

Oddities of windows

[viral hornet]

@waxen panther quarter pounder with extra onion and pickles

[twin lagoon]

no pickles

[mossy vessel]

yes

[viral hornet]

no michael

🥺

[twin lagoon]

cunt

[viral hornet]

nou

[twin lagoon]

@mossy vessel

[mossy vessel]

[viral hornet]

did you make it the weekend wine free, notmyfault?

[mossy vessel]

Until now, yes

[viral hornet]

LOL

[mossy vessel]

But I already ordered new stuff

[worn ember]

wine fan huh

[viral hornet]

I wish I could enjoy wine tbh

Can't fucking stand it, but it's such a cheap drink.

[worn ember]

depends what you drink

[viral hornet]

Usually gin or scotch

so wine is by far cheaper lol

[mossy vessel]

Indeed lol

[worn ember]

true

well at least the cheap ones you find at parties and the super market lol

[waxen panther]

@viral hornet ur a sinner

[finite wave]

He is.

[prisma orchid]

Rip techscode 😦

[limber knot]

I​LO​VE​YO​U: that depends on where you want to use it

[radiant notch]

Hello

Who have the version of paper 1.16.1?

[next wind]

use the download api pinned in #announcements

[mossy vessel]

I do, make me a good offer and ill send it over

[radiant notch]

THANKS

[waxen panther]

WELCOME

[radiant notch]

Thanks

[waxen panther]

Welcome

[radiant notch]

#paper-help

[waxen panther]

#paper-help 😎

[worn ember]

just to trigger jroy

[waxen panther]

i dont think jroy cares enough about rtp to be triggered at that tbh

thoughts xqc viewer @void void?

wrong jroy l m a o

[worn ember]

no but he hates streams

lol

[finite wave]

I mean, you could just use kotlin

[worn ember]

no thanks

[fallen oracle]

Aww man, the Jeopardy dude passed away.

[finite wave]

?

[vernal moth]

Tv show

[finite wave]

Yeah, but which man

[next wind]

alex trebek

[next fractal]

what is the biggest image size that can be rendered on a single map?

[finite wave]

id

k

[twin lagoon]

@mental meadow @minor badge

[mental meadow]

❤️

[warm anchor]

[mossy vessel]

smelly

[modern steppe]

what is the biggest image size that can be rendered on a single map?
@next fractal 128²

[worn ember]

@fallen oracle people tend to die over time

[finite wave]

Lies.

I've got a weird friend that says she does not wish to live past 40 due to it probably being boring.

Barty, is this the barty i know?

Please revert your profile picture

[woven otter]

I've got a weird friend that says she does not wish to live past 40 due to it probably being boring.
@finite wave she might not be wrong tho

[worn ember]

40 is where you have money and (hopefully) a stable life. So you can do what you want to do

[vernal moth]

Who got the patience to wait till 40 for that?

[finite wave]

I'm expecting myself to have a stable life at 30

[vernal moth]

I hate it now

Have

Lol

What's a stable life anyways?

[finite wave]

(actually a few years before), but really depends on whether i want to write a phd in 7 years.

Being so economic stable that you can provide for a wife and kids.

Is currently my dream.

[vernal moth]

Yeah I got that

Just gotta find a wife, lmao

[untold copper]

Imagine having a stable life.

[finite wave]

You'll get their Mini

there*

Not their, idk who is owning mini.

[vernal moth]

Ain't nobody owns me

[finite wave]

God does.

[vernal moth]

Who?

[untold copper]

god who

[vernal moth]

I don't know anybody named god

[untold copper]

[finite wave]

God, our beloved creator from christianity.

[untold copper]

aRe YoU sAyInG oNly cHrIsTiAnS cAn HaVe A gOd??????

jk :P

[vernal moth]

Gotta have a religion with multiple gods

Why limit yourself to one

[finite wave]

I'm saying christianity is the only correct religion, all the others are faulty and i'll be more than happy to provide you with guidance towards our lord creator god.

[vernal moth]

That's like limiting yourself to one wife

• hides *

[finite wave]

Cute

[untold copper]

@finite wave can we not

;-;

pls

[finite wave]

Learning restraint is a good personality trait Mini.

[untold copper]

I'm saying christianity is the only correct religion, all the others are faulty and i'll be more than happy to provide you with guidance towards our lord creator god.
this i mean

[vernal moth]

Learning restraint is a good personality trait Mini.
@finite wave says who?

[finite wave]

Restraint in keeping only your faith in one god, and restraint in only keeping one wife.

[untold copper]

xD

XDDDD

[mossy vessel]

yall smell

[untold copper]

true that

[vernal moth]

If I don't have a god, do I get two wifes?

Or how does this work?

[untold copper]

Good thinking

[vernal moth]

Or is a god worth two wifes?

[finite wave]

Even if you don't have god in your heart, god will always have you in his heart.

[vernal moth]

What's the stonks here?

[untold copper]

I dont need sleep, I need answers

Even if you don't have god in your heart, god will always have you in his heart.
@finite wave das deep

[finite wave]

This is martin luthers thought

[untold copper]

deep guy

[finite wave]

God will love you unconditionally even if you make mistakes, God will be waiting for you in heaven.

[untold copper]

then whats hell for even if you make mistakes

thonkkk

i kill someone and say "oops"

[vernal moth]

Pls keep region talk to #memes where it belongs

[untold copper]

god like "kek"

[finite wave]

Please don't bash my religious belief Martin.

[untold copper]

he said region

[finite wave]

Repentance in hell leads to heaven.

[vernal moth]

Am serious, stop it

[untold copper]

ok ima stop now

[finite wave]

So even though you might spend a long time in hell you will in the end receive salvation Snipa.

Okay Digger

#religion please.

[untold copper]

so then

whats up

i got school tomorrow :c

[finite wave]

I feel quite oppressed, here i am preaching my religion to the non-believer and as soon as i start talking they shoot me down smh.

[untold copper]

ok

whats the @ no - table role mean?

[twin lagoon]

people who are notable

[finite wave]

Notable

.g notable meaning

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://www.dictionary.com/browse/notable -- Notable | Definition of Notable at Dictionary.com: "Notable definition, worthy of note or notice; noteworthy: a notable success; a notable theory. See more."

[untold copper]

has space tho so i thought it meant smthn else lol

[twin lagoon]

they just have no tables

[untold copper]

oh floor gang i see

[finite wave]

Nope Paper just likes to play in dead mems

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

[untold copper]

can i start a pleaD?

[finite wave]

For #religion? Yes please.

[untold copper]

or does I have to be older?

@twin lagoon

[twin lagoon]

the fuck is a plead

[untold copper]

🥺

this

[twin lagoon]

no that's not how it works

i don't do that anymore

@mental meadow @minor badge @viral hornet 🥺

[untold copper]

so is that like...

a thinG?

[finite wave]

No

[twin lagoon]

no idea what you're talking about buddy

[untold copper]

ok cool

[mental meadow]

only if you want to kiss someone

[minor badge]

@twin lagoon uwu,,,,

[twin lagoon]

uwu

[untold copper]

[mossy vessel]

that is gross

[twin lagoon]

also aurora wtf

[finite wave]

He is a child

[twin lagoon]

that's not covid friendly

[mental meadow]

@twin lagoon awa

[untold copper]

nu im noT

[mental meadow]

thats what happens if you only read half of the messages

rip

[finite wave]

hahaha

[untold copper]

i still dont know if i can @ 🥺 XD

[finite wave]

No

[mental meadow]

i still dont know if i can @ 🥺 XD
just DM the person and ask them in private if they are okay with that^^

[untold copper]

oooook

[finite wave]

Eh

[untold copper]

im NOT a kid

;-;

[mental meadow]

jan wtf

not what I meant

[finite wave]

But

[mental meadow]

better

[finite wave]

Yes

This will be used as blackmail henceforth.

[mossy vessel]

Irc never forgets 😂

[untold copper]

xD

[limber knot]

damn my bouncer died

[finite wave]

Just borrow Minis

[limber knot]

I'm good thx

I just need it for a few servers w/o a dc bridge and other communities stuck in the 90s

[mossy vessel]

33 fps

Or what do you want to show us

[untold copper]

durability

and its on my mother's 5 year old mac so no surprises

[finite wave]

Looks alright to me

[untold copper]

kewl

[cosmic raft]

oh no

https://twitter.com/jeopardy/status/1325490106329751553

Jeopardy! (@Jeopardy)

Jeopardy! is saddened to share that Alex Trebek passed away peacefully at home early this morning, surrounded by family and friends. Thank you, Alex.

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[cunning raft]

[brazen barn]

What's the general rule of thumb (if any) for how much bandwidth is required for each player?

Trying to see how many players my network could handle.

[twin lagoon]

1TB (per month) per 200 players

[brazen barn]

Bandwidth. Not data usage

[twin lagoon]

probably 20Mbps per 100 players

[brazen barn]

Oh that's minuscule. Wow

[twin lagoon]

it's indeed not a lot

[brazen barn]

So with my gigabit fiber I'm looking at /a lot of damn players/

[twin lagoon]

yes

yeah one of my networks (1.15+) is sending 22.4mbps right now

110 players on

so there's your answer

[brazen barn]

Pretty accurate estimate you had

What hardware do you have that running on?

[twin lagoon]

e2288g

[brazen barn]

Nice cpu there.

[twin lagoon]

industry standard™️

[mossy vessel]

Michael is working on some tech support line during the daytime

[twin lagoon]

no i'm not

[brazen barn]

I'm not sure the relevance?

[twin lagoon]

nmf bullies me

[mossy vessel]

:^)

[visual egret]

i finally started using premiere pro and omg its worth it

everything is just so much faster than my free software

*coughs* shotcut

[mossy vessel]

Wish I hard more to do with hardware

[twin lagoon]

i just want 5950x's man

[brazen barn]

Lol don't we all

[twin lagoon]

soon™️

[mossy vessel]

No

[brazen barn]

Except no ecc support so idk about for a production server

[ashen cliff]

Same.

Ryzen supports ECC.

Just not REG.

[brazen barn]

Hmm

[ashen cliff]

Any dedicated server provider offering Zen 3 yet?

[twin lagoon]

reliablesite is getting them soon

but RS is pepega unless they fixed their cooling

there's another host i'm trying to get 5950x's at but it's basically not worth it for consumers

basically, no

[ashen cliff]

Ask Hetzner.

Their cooling actually works well on their Ryzen 3xxx machines.
It's just Intel that gets the short stick.

[twin lagoon]

eh

if ryzen stock doesn't fix itself, probably not

lul

[ashen cliff]

Is there even a stock issue currently?

[twin lagoon]

even then i don't feel like paying OVH a metric fuckton in setup fees again

there is

i just want phoenixnap to offer ryzens man

[ashen cliff]

Nah. Intel CPUs are more secure, that's why they only offer them.

[brazen barn]

All this talk of hosting services. Do most people here not run their own machines?

[twin lagoon]

no

doing that costs a fuckton of money upfront

and isn't worth it as the hardware is outdated within a year

[brazen barn]

Lol excuse me? Outdated in a year is absurd

[twin lagoon]

that's literally what it is though

my 2288g is outdated considering the new ryzen cpus which offer a massive improvement

[ashen cliff]

Welcome to 100+ user server struggles.

[brazen barn]

If the equipment is still handling the load, it's not outdated

[twin lagoon]

except it's not

well, for some

a ryzen cpu would help me out

if i wanted to have my own machines i'd have to pay tens of thousands of dollars upfront

i'd have to get it built by someone else or ship the server to the USA or if I wanted to get the servers back, they'd have to ship all servers back to NL

[warm anchor]

Self host is just people who don’t have to pay electricity talking

[twin lagoon]

i can't host the servers in NL as that would be a disadvantage

[ashen cliff]

And internet.

[twin lagoon]

i'd have to pay for colocation, bandwidth etc

[mossy vessel]

self hosting

[twin lagoon]

wait for parts which right now could take a good time

all of that effort & money only to be outdated within 1 - 2 years

once it's outdated i have to get rid of those servers

sell them some how which is a buttload of effort

repeat the entire process again

[ashen cliff]

Well. If you bought Skylake + good cooling...

[twin lagoon]

if i have a broken part, i'd have to pay, wait for shipping and get it replaced again

[upper flicker]

breaks out the ln2

[ashen cliff]

LN2 MC server when?

[upper flicker]

someone poke jake

[twin lagoon]

meanwhile i can pay $125/mo for an e2288g, 64gb, 1TB NVMe, order as many as I want, without long waiting times and 0 setup fees

[upper flicker]

tell LTT to waste a video on it

[twin lagoon]

with insurance on all of my parts, networking & colocation handled and without contract so I can always swap servers

[ashen cliff]

Or two, since they would fail horribly the first time.

[upper flicker]

"how we destroyed our office"

[ashen cliff]

How we suffocated all our employees.

[upper flicker]

as long as they break a few million views, it's worth it

[twin lagoon]

OVH is pepega

PhoenixNAP is the best host so far

that said their panel / registration process is wonky

[ashen cliff]

OVH is just the DoS protection box.

[twin lagoon]

TCPShield

[carmine hinge]

i've been using phoenixnap at michael's recommendation

[twin lagoon]

[carmine hinge]

is v good

[ashen cliff]

So OVH.

[twin lagoon]

yes but TCPshield is free

[carmine hinge]

i used ovh before

[twin lagoon]

and OVH isn't

[carmine hinge]

i still have to set up tcpshield

[ashen cliff]

INB4 Cloudflare.

[upper flicker]

isnt cloudflare's whatever they named it still pretty expensive?

[twin lagoon]

spectrum is stupidly expensive

that said their product manager is a nice guy, asked for feedback from a few mc people

basically everyone complained about pricing

[upper flicker]

well they did kinda ask the MC community about it and stuff

its one thing to target at traditional enterprise and charge that much

but cant really do that for 99% of MC

[twin lagoon]

99.9% even

only three mc companies use it

nodehost, a minecraft / gameserver host

hypixel & minehut

oh four if we include MCPH

[void void]

Bruh

When I hit my table

My keyboard disconnects (bluetooth keyboard)

no idea why

[ashen cliff]

Battery.

[limber knot]

🌮

[mossy vessel]

[worn ember]

[ashen cliff]

Always.

[dark marsh]

[worn ember]

hmm i was still scrolled up lol

[vernal bone]

Hm, how can you get access to IRC? 🤔

[limber knot]

test

smh, first time this year I need to configure something on my irc

Use a client + bouncer or webclient

[upper flicker]

nope

esper now

see announcement

[limber knot]

My setup is from the last decade and I haven't touched it since

[mossy vessel]

#waterfall-dev

[peak ginkgo]

People on IRC: why

genuine q

[twin lagoon]

what is espernet

[dark marsh]

How do i make it so i get pinged when a new version of paper is released?

[limber knot]

There are some valid reasons to use esper/irc

[vernal bone]

I don't have perms to join to the #paper channel

[cosmic raft]

@twin lagoon the network where 99% of other Minecraft projects live is EsperNet

[twin lagoon]

[limber knot]

My spigot list has like a couple of entries, my esper list has more than a dozen lol

#mcdevs likes to disagree

whee

fancy

[twin lagoon]

why do all of you have no profile pictures

besides nmf

[limber knot]

hello new paper

MiniDigger: they're the odd one out :p

[twin lagoon]

nmf is epic

[dark marsh]

Why do you have bot tags o.O

[limber knot]

Beep boop

[limber knot]

because my discord name doesn't match my irc name

IRC :p

[twin lagoon]

have a hedgehog for good luck

[limber knot]

Hm

iirc the webhook pfp only works if the dc name matches?

idk

correct

makes sense

whee

paper dev looks so empty now lmao https://i.imgur.com/x9TvpvY.png

owo

NotMyFault: #paper has always been the largest of our channels

beep boop 😳

True true

[limpid comet]

oh god

what happened

[cosmic raft]

#announcements

[limber knot]

ascendance

Btw, this might sound dumb for those irc natives, but can you rename a channel on irc?

no

[mighty storm]

There's a spec for it in ircv3

[limber knot]

not without making a new one and getting everyone to join it

[mighty storm]

But generally, no

[limber knot]

oic

[twin lagoon]

chew how's rory

[limber knot]

yes

[peak ginkgo]

good answer

[limber knot]

michale how's idriz

IntellectualSites is still called IntellectualCrafters on irc soo. I didn't really touch irc stuffy stuff the past years

intellectualfault 😳

you can do stuff like make a new channel, set a flag on the old one to redirect people who try and join the old one

indeed

but users can also choose to ignore that redirect

its kind of a kludge

[twin lagoon]

@meager tusk

[limber knot]

IRC is far from perfect, but many people spend a lot more time on it than on discord

I'm not really into irc stuff if I don't have to, tho

some people aren't even on discord

[meager tusk]

@twin lagoon hello

[minor badge]

@meager tusk

[meager tusk]

Hello proxi

[twin lagoon]

[minor badge]

how are you sir

[limber knot]

P​ro​xi​my​st​ stinks

[mossy vessel]

k enough irc for this year

[twin lagoon]

good message to sign off with

proximyst stinks

[limber knot]

WTF

where is zoidberg 😔

[twin lagoon]

who

[limber knot]

Borg is now here

irc botto

we have Borg instead Proximyst

[mighty storm]

!stats

[limber knot]

Uptime: 0 days, 0 hours, 23 minutes, 20 seconds
Message Handling: 7ms / 4ms (mean/median)
Messages from IRC: 42255 (5.915%)
Messages from Discord: 672079 (94.09%)

resistance is futile

Borg sucks i want Zoidberg

[mighty storm]

oh hey they carried over

[limber knot]

of course

smart botto

pets Z750

pets zml

oh

oh hey zml is here

The cool kids are already here

hi Chew

hi

pets Proximyst

hi kashike

hi kashike :3

uwu zml

[mossy vessel]

cute cute

[vernal bone]

If I joined via irc, how can I add more channels here? 🤔

[vernal moth]

,/join

[vernal bone]

It says "you may not log in more than once"

[limber knot]

./j #paper generally

.g irc join channel

no korobi?

[vernal bone]

/join paper in #paper-help 🤔

[limber knot]

damn, i need to host chewbotcca here again

[mossy vessel]

Is nickserv still required?

[limber knot]

what mode is +C I forgot

[mossy vessel]

no-colour

[limber knot]

on god? https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/89xW7Pz9/image.png

[mossy vessel]

kek

😂

[limber knot]

Huzzah, EsperNet!

Found it out :P

hello MBAX

purr :3

:3 chewu

[mossy vessel]

mb, +c is no color

uppercase C has a different meaning 🥴

[true canyon]

It's CTCP-blocking, here.

[limber knot]

Breakdown of modes here - https://esper.net/ircd.php

[mossy vessel]

figured lol

[twin lagoon]

irc too confusing

[mossy vessel]

but yay, esper

[limber knot]

EsperNet bestnet

of course

not baised

biased*

[mossy vessel]

employee discount

Have always been on esper smh

[limber knot]

Yeah, I get 50% off on channel joins.

[mossy vessel]

fancy

[limber knot]

It worked nice

[worn ember]

whats this random migration to irc lol

[limber knot]

you mean migration to different irc network

s/different/better

that part was implied :3

[worn pasture]

@worn pasture more pics 🥺
@twin lagoon

[twin lagoon]

aaaaa

cutie

[untold copper]

uwu

i need more cats in my life 🥺

[limber knot]

Cats :3

[untold copper]

:3333

[limber knot]

you're gonna love rory.cat then

[worn pasture]

one day i will gain access to the elite #adorable-pets

[twin lagoon]

@cosmic raft hello sweet bb girl

gib turbo role

he has cute kitten uwu

[worn pasture]

[mighty storm]

gamin

[cloud dawn]

Not paper-specific but I'm trying to install a resource pack to my server for everyone to download to receive extra noteblock sounds for datapacks but downloading them, I notice this error

javax.net.ssl.SSLHandshakeException: Received fatal alert: handshake_failure

I tried googling what could it mean but no results

[slate bison]

Is tunity better than paper? Since it's a papers fork, but it has better performance

[limber knot]

mfw esper doesn't mask IPs by default 😓

[zealous wedge]

take a look at what discord you're in :p

[slate bison]

I know I'm just asking

Is it better r not, does it have some security faults

[limber knot]

lol that's why you have a bouncer phoenix616 lol

I mean I do

[slate bison]

Cus it's a paper fork

[limber knot]

but it's pretty Pepega to not mask

also > not setting a default image for the bridge webhook to make it display as irc 👀

[slate bison]

You can use just bot token log in btw

[limber knot]

easy way to make clear where the bots are coming from: https://i.phoenix616.dev/fShT0huj.png ;D

no you can't, discord doesn't support the IRC protocol

go complain about ip masking in #dragonweyr then i guess?

[worn ember]

@cloud dawn is the datapacks behind cloudflare?

[cloud dawn]

@worn ember No

[limber knot]

Complaint received without needing to join! :P

[cloud dawn]

Now I only have TLS1.3 and TLS1.2 enabled ONLY

I wonder if that's it

[limber knot]

"EsperNet does not offer cloaking/v-hosts."

[cloud dawn]

Maybe the java bundled doesn't support 1.2

or 1.3

[limber knot]

they are anti user-privacy and pro doxxing apparently

[worn ember]

I know it has caused a bunch of people issues here

[limber knot]

yeah, mojang bundles ancient java with the client

it's 8u51, latest of the java 8 series is like 8u261 or something

cloudflare should work if you disable their bot check

[cloud dawn]

TLS1.1 is insecure

[limber knot]

although maybe they recently changed their cert which would be pretty annoying

[cloud dawn]

and I rather not enable such insecure protocol

[limber knot]

mojang doesn't care about security

[cloud dawn]

oh ok java 8 does support tls.1

1.2

[limber knot]

which java 8 though

java 8 has been revised a lot over the years

[worn ember]

Where is it hosted?

[limber knot]

if you really want it to get fixed, complain here: https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC-143768

[cloud dawn]

on my nginx server

I fixed the problem

I had the ssl ciphers to such strict ciphers

And got rid of obsolete cipher supports

[worn ember]

[limber knot]

mojang just needs to manually include the updated certs

if a fabric mod can do that then so can mojang lmao

[cloud dawn]

I mean

you can tell the launcher

[worn ember]

They're busy adding blocks smh

[cloud dawn]

which java version to use

[limber knot]

that's not a solution for 99% of the players

most don't even have java installed or even the rights to install it

[cloud dawn]

I think I always have java installed

because stuff like optifine needs java to even install

or to extract

[worn ember]

You're not 99% then :p

[cloud dawn]

Whose the other 99% include

[worn ember]

Kids. Computer dum dums

[cloud dawn]

For kids

Tell their parents to install java

Takes like 2 seconds

[ashen cliff]

To not install Java.

[limber knot]

as if they would care, lol

[cloud dawn]

Whoops time for new parents then

[limber knot]

👀

[worn ember]

Parents: "who's java?"

[cloud dawn]

IS HE A STRANGER?

WHY ARE YOU TALKING TO STRANGERS

[worn ember]

Bruh it's November why are there still mosquitoes

[limber knot]

climate change

[worn ember]

Grrr stupid global warming

[limber knot]

it's too hot for them in africa

[worn ember]

A couple here died of malaria too a while back lol

Due to a mosquito bite

Chances of that happening are like almost 0

[cloud dawn]

If only mojang didn't sell itself to microsoft

Then garbage like bedrock wouldn't exist

sorry, garbage wrong word

or maybe it is

Because trusting microsoft with any franchise is generally a bad idea

[next wind]

i dont see any issue? java is still developed so nothing changed for you

[worn ember]

Doesn't matter much for the java edition

[cloud dawn]

Until they shut that down

[worn ember]

They wont

[cloud dawn]

I heard something about java and now requiring a microsoft account?

I may be wrong

I can't remember

[worn ember]

Yes.

It's beneficial for the player since it has better security. Other than that nothing changes

[cedar spade]

Pocket Edition was out before Mojang was bought out

[cloud dawn]

I would love to see a java minecraft but written in C/C++ honestly, oh wait they did and it's awful.

[worn ember]

Why are we bashing bedrock exactly?

[cedar spade]

ded: good question

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[cloud dawn]

Because they thought it was a good idea to make things like texturepacks cost money

and skins

[next wind]

idk bedrock is perfectly fine, maybe not as good as java but it works fine for literally everyone

[cloud dawn]

You have to pay for SKINS

[next wind]

you can still use free skins

[limpid comet]

would you rather they put that into java?

[next wind]

its not some forced thing

[worn ember]

When you gonna accept my pr tho md

[unreal quarry]

making an announcement to IRC users over Discord

[limpid comet]

it's better that they get money from bedrock to get an incentive to keep developing the other software

can't you upload your own anyways

[cedar spade]

Eh, Microsoft could (and probably would) fund Mojang regardless of whether Bedrock was making money

[cloud dawn]

For the past 6 years I been on minecraft, I never had to pay for skins

I can go to some minecraft skins website

find a skin I like

download it and upload it

[limpid comet]

okay?

so can we

yeah

lol

[next wind]

yeah bedrock has the exact same feature

[cedar spade]

Console Edition had paid cosmetic DLC for most of its life, that's not a new thing to Bedrock

[next wind]

and iirc some of the bedrock profits go to the creators of the packs so it helps out the community

[worn ember]

Be glad there no feature dlcs

[cloud dawn]

Shh don't give microsoft ideas lol

[next wind]

wtf microsoft isnt stupid

they know that the community would riot

[worn ember]

Microsoft isn't EA

[cloud dawn]

Windows 8(and 8.1) walks in the chat

[cedar spade]

Microsoft know what monetisation is

[limpid comet]

they ain't no stranger

[cloud dawn]

I never liked Microsoft, I just try to tolerate them, but I don't generally trust them with any game franchise

[worn ember]

Well it's still mojang that owns the game

[cedar spade]

I mean, they've bought a lot of studios and basically funded them to make whatever they want, so uh

[limpid comet]

they've been treating minecraft very well, all things considered

[next wind]

microsoft has been pretty great, theres no reason to hate them

they support game creators, listen to the community, and are generally good with data privacy and stuff

[limpid comet]

microsoft has been doing things right as of late

[worn ember]

At least they're not like EA who buy companies and then disband them

[limpid comet]

if there's a market to be selling strictly cosmetic things on a platform they control, why would you be against that

it gives them an incentive to keep developing/funding the developers

[cedar spade]

There may be valid reasons to be concerned about certain aspects of how MS operates in the games industry, but there's not much reason not to trust them when it comes to keeping studios alive

[worn ember]

laughs in paid skyrim mods

[next wind]

they dont make a huge profit off the marketplace either

[worn ember]

Microsoft patreon wen

[cloud dawn]

Yeah but in the past they did ruin good game franchise

and they released shitty products

Like Windows 8.1

which was disaster

and 8