#general

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worn ember
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Belgium is now #1 in covid cases zoop

meager tusk
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wat

upper flicker
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gg

cunning raft
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so uhh

upper flicker
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as long as their beer is still safe

cunning raft
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<Username>

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is all it does to guess

worn ember
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its all replaced with corona

limber knotBOT
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yeah

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also means if a server uses custom chat formatting it doesn't match

worn ember
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we're going to code red soon

upper flicker
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lol

limber knotBOT
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so yeah this is a big hack to make up for the fact that server admins are shitty

waxen panther
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my best friend got confirmed yesterday lol

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uni moment

austere ivy
waxen panther
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bro

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epic

woven otter
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disgusting

visual egret
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wait does killing the enderdragon ged blocked

austere ivy
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you know, for how much I talk about Minecraft I forgot I really never play it that often

worn ember
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i think we should still go for herd immunity, at this rate everyone will get it anyway

upper flicker
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so yeah this is a big hack to make up for the fact that server admins are shitty
sort of sums up the history of the mc community tbh

austere ivy
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it's actually quite nice

waxen panther
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i think everyone should have to have broccoli pins on their skin like mine

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😎

limber knotBOT
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yeah ok fair lol

austere ivy
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thanks @cunning raft lol

limber knotBOT
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instead, i'd like to propose a mojang hit team

cunning raft
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well thank z lmao

worn ember
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paper is a hack built ontop of another hack built ontop of another hack

limber knotBOT
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to take out community members they don't like

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o.o

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going to hide in irc then, safer here

austere ivy
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welp, Mojang has settled the debate

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is it uuid or UUID?

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it's uUID :)

worn ember
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thats were all the people are that have something to hide tho

limber knotBOT
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that's not mojang

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that's forgeflower

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^

austere ivy
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ah

cunning raft
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nor is it a debate

limber knotBOT
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all that is stripped long before it gets to you

worn ember
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what does the second u even stand for?

visual egret
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i just killed the ender dragon does it show

worn ember
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Unique Unique Id?

limber knotBOT
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official mappings don't have parameter names

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the second u is unique

cunning raft
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universal unique id

worn ember
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Ultra Unique Id

austere ivy
limber knotBOT
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the first u is universal

visual egret
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oof

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let me use a command to do it

worn ember
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is it universal tho

austere ivy
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brocc would you like an office?

worn ember
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what about GUID then

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Global Unique ID

visual egret
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or XUID microsoft lol

limber knotBOT
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sparkling UUID

worn ember
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GUID is MS too

limber knotBOT
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or is UUID sparkling GUID

visual egret
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GUID is MS too
@worn ember yeah ik

limber knotBOT
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GUID is diet UUID

waxen panther
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idiots

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except zml

worn ember
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wtf wtf

limber knotBOT
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<3 broc

waxen panther
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❤️

worn ember
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i think you meant to write xml

waxen panther
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no

limber knotBOT
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brocc just mad

waxen panther
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idiots, especially ded, except zml

austere ivy
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it's a bit cramped but it's functional :)

waxen panther
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an office is an office

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broccolis are small anyway

austere ivy
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good point

limber knotBOT
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brocc is smol boi

worn ember
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how many heads does a broccoli have?

waxen panther
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i am 5'11 thank you

austere ivy
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anyone else want any embassys on the official 1.16.4r1 test server that will soon be absolutely incinerated?

limber knotBOT
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make taco art

worn ember
limber knotBOT
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wat

worn ember
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ur dummer than a Radish

limber knotBOT
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since when do vegetables have IQs

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and how do you measure the iq of a vegetable

visual egret
waxen panther
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Wtf

worn ember
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well you make it do an IQ test ZML? thats probably why their score is so bad

waxen panther
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Moderators I’m being bullied by someone that couldn’t figure out configurate

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I demand punishments

worn ember
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couldn't?

limber knotBOT
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how do you not figure out configurate

worn ember
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i still havent

waxen panther
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😆

worn ember
waxen panther
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even a watercress could figure out configurate

worn ember
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i'm sure a radish could figure it out faster than you

waxen panther
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at least i can figure it out

worn ember
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1v1 me in 1.8

waxen panther
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1v1 me in rust

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sars only

worn ember
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ok, buy me rust

waxen panther
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ok send me $20 on paypal

worn ember
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ok get me a paypal account with $20

waxen panther
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im all out

worn ember
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i just paid 37euro on half a year of dota+

slim nymph
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vegetables do got some damn smarts, very defensive.

worn ember
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oh nvm it was 20

waxen panther
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i am extremely offensive too pepe_super_cool

worn ember
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so thats why they get offended so easily

waxen panther
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this is a comedic statement and this does not represent the ideals of broccolai™️

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says u ded

worn ember
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the only thing that triggers me is simple getting triggered over everything i say KEKW

potent fossil
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my comment last night was a joke you fuck

waxen panther
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simple is cute though

worn ember
potent fossil
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@waxen panther no u

waxen panther
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no us pl

potent fossil
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🥺

austere ivy
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@potent fossil 🥺

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wait no u suck

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I forgot, I hate you

potent fossil
austere ivy
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I retrac-

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I RETRACT MY PREVIOUS SIMPING

potent fossil
worn ember
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whats been done cannot be reverted

austere ivy
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brocc your embassy is gettin a bit overshadowed by the gigantic taco above it

upper flicker
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wtf

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that's pretty damn good

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I was expecting a blob

austere ivy
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I completely stole the art from google lol

waxen panther
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unreal

visual egret
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look to the right of that picture lol

waxen panther
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vegetables over shadowed once again

austere ivy
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brocc do you want me to like

visual egret
upper flicker
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am grant you dark purple name for your excellent work stealing

waxen panther
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WTF

austere ivy
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extend your embassy far above?

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HA

waxen panther
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I want to be an old prune

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😠

upper flicker
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minecraft taco art contest is the only way to get old prune

waxen panther
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k sec

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ok done

upper flicker
waxen panther
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nothing sus here

zealous wedge
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send your taco selfies

upper flicker
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seems pretty sus

waxen panther
upper flicker
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your stealing is not as good

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at least he built the taco

waxen panther
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look

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cat & a taco

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what more do you want

upper flicker
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xbox one edition

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someone ban this man

waxen panther
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thats pixel art too

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just really far away

austere ivy
zealous wedge
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purple

waxen panther
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purple

austere ivy
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I think kash would approve lol

visual egret
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anyone else want an ebassy?

austere ivy
slim nymph
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why did you turn on debug profiling, that alone hurts TPS

visual egret
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5 seconds

limpid comet
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what the hell is a debug profiling

austere ivy
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vanilla's inferior version of Aikar's timingsv2 peepoheart

limpid comet
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huh

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i had no clue

slim nymph
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@solemn hull the "he/they" question in #paper-help is off topic for that channel, but they are saying they do not mind either pronoun, though IMO they is redundant since that is a genderless pronoun anyways

limpid comet
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wow nice name

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congrats on being an old prune

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also how do you enable this debug profiler i had no clue it was a thing

slim nymph
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vanilla debugger is like timings, just not as much consideration to performance and its TOO detailed

limpid comet
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just outta curiosity

slim nymph
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we strike a balance with how much detail timings has to minimize performance impact

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the /debug command

limpid comet
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oh, makes sense, i override that

potent fossil
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why the fucc is brian an old prune

limpid comet
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simp the new crowd is encroaching on your old prune territory

slim nymph
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until like 1.13, the vanilla debug profiler was forcefully removed from CraftBukkit

potent fossil
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he is a young prune

limpid comet
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ah

potent fossil
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if he is indeed an old prune, then i am an ancient prune

limpid comet
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that's why i didn't know it was a thing

slim nymph
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it was reintroduced in 1.13 under a jvm flag

limpid comet
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thanks for the fun fact, aikar

austere ivy
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new

slim nymph
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but mojang has improved it using null instances in current versions so it has no impact when turned off

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no op instances*

limpid comet
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well

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i use aikar for general tps things and spark to profile my own plugins to see where lag is coming from

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spark is a pog

austere ivy
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spark is ❤️

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so pretty too, I love the color theme

slim nymph
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thats roughly what your suppose to do, spark is useless to the common user. spark is designed for people who can do something about a problem at a code level

limpid comet
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yeah exactly

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just helps me when im being braindead but i don't know how

slim nymph
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timings is designed for high level knowing an AREA of a problem "Skeletons are high tick, might be a farm"

unreal quarry
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tbf, it only takes 2 braincells to read a spark report

limpid comet
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yeah, super useful there too. though luckily my servers are very non-laggy since they're tailored to one type of thing (lobby, pvp, minigames, etc)

slim nymph
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vanilla profiler is kind of like a mixture of both is the issue

waxen panther
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two more than the average minecraft server owner

limpid comet
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^

slim nymph
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@unreal quarry if you know code, sure, but most end users dont

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spark is alien to a non programmer

austere ivy
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I left but I'm leaving the server up incase anyone wants to mess around on there or something

visual egret
next wind
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hAhA fuNy NUmbEr

waxen panther
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comedy moment

visual egret
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i know im so funny and original

slim nymph
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are we pretending the 1 isnt there and seeing 69? im confused

visual egret
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yes we are

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shhhh

unreal quarry
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spark is alien to a non programmer
@slim nymph thats what I mean. its super easy to teach them. i've always been a big supporter of teaching regular people how to read stack traces and stuff like this. it's not just "big scary walls of text" that their minds eye blurs.. It can be very useful to them, if they just take the 2 seconds to actually look past the big block of text to realize its plain english.
IE, your example of skeletons taking too much tick time would be easy to spot in a spark report as a high % under EntitySkeletonAbstract or whatever. Thats where those extra 2 braincells come into play, to decypher and understand EntitySkeletonAbstract is a skeleton. ^_^

potent fossil
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make an easy to understand video for it

slim nymph
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well, if they are willing to learn yes

potent fossil
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rather than arguing for it

slim nymph
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many of them arent lol

potent fossil
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i know we all wanna hear Papa Billy's Storytime

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(not /s)

unreal quarry
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many of them arent lol
/shrug @slim nymph thats called willful ignorance, and thats on them

limpid comet
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i mean

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if you're not a programmer what's the point to learning spark

limber knotBOT
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imagine being able to read timings smh

limpid comet
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timings give you all the info you need if you're just a server owner trying to diagnose lag at a higher level

visual egret
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could not relate... sadly

upper flicker
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wait until he finds out how few people have any interest in knowing details like that

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about... anything

limber knotBOT
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imagine knowing what tps are

unreal quarry
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oh i know how willfully ignorant people are. i see it all the time with people that cant even read a timings report

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lol

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i'm not ignorant of that fact ^_^

limber knotBOT
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"blocks vanish when I place them, I guess I have to buy more ram"

slim nymph
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spark requires also knowing to dissect what parts under skeleton are causing it. like is it 50% skeleton then 35% of it is a plugins event reacting to skeletons shooting bows?

or is that plugin only 2% and you need to ignore it and go back up higher and find the best representation of the overall lag to deduce is it a specific function, or just total combined just adds up to too much due to count of skeletons

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theres a lot of deduction that has to occur

unreal quarry
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theres a lot of deduction that has to occur
@slim nymph Exactly. Which must be learned at some level. Be it you're a dev or a simple server owner. You get out what you put in

limpid comet
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yeah

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spark confused me at first because of that

golden gust
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The issue with stuff like spark is sampler bias

limpid comet
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but then i realized i just needed to use my brain ThinkSmart

slim nymph
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yeah that too, lot of false positives in samplers ;/

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"spark says timing is using 10% of my lag, i need to turn it off!"
almost rather NOT encourage end users to try to read it lol

unreal quarry
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speaking of false positives in samplers, my favorite one is where timings shows a random entity is lagging the server when its something else (usually in oversleep)

golden gust
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We've had people asking about stuff like isAlive calls

quasi valley
golden gust
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Samplers like spark also heavily have issues akin to timings v1, where the nature of averaging can easily throw off the hit from misnomers

waxen panther
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NEW EMOTE

grand pewter
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people have varying levels of sophistication when it comes to reading timings and such, i think the best policy to go with is just correct people when they're wrong, although the one thing that sucks is if the person is too stubborn lol

limpid comet
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although the one thing that sucks is if the person is too stubborn lol
welcome to the minecraft community

golden gust
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e.g. you have a method call which takes sub-millis, but something hits a "oh shit" clause and goes and does some extra work, that won't show up in spark

slim nymph
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s/minecraft community/life

waxen panther
slim nymph
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um, dont /giphy large hands to counter those small hands....

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thats uh NSFW

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why is giphy filled with so much nsfw results lol ; ;

waxen panther
grand pewter
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default gif finder in discord is tenor for me

unreal quarry
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e.g. you have a method call which takes sub-millis, but something hits a "oh shit" clause and goes and does some extra work, that won't show up in spark
@golden gust you make it sound like spark is bad and should never be used.. both timings and spark should be used. preferably even a 3rd report from a real profiler (yourkit/visualvm/etc) would help. its always better to have multiple perspectives/opinions/reports. whats that saying, meassure twice, cut once.

golden gust
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I'm not saying it's bad, I'm just saying that it's prone to providing bad info, which to your average layman, is not going to work out well

austere ivy
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how come kneny gets all the headpats

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kenny what did you ever do to get the headpats

golden gust
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You really need to use a proper sampler to be able to dig into stuff, and even then you're still gonna be suffering from that bias, but, at least you can drill down data a bit better to try and pull out the noise

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Worth noting that with those tools, you're more than likely sampling vs profiling, as profilers are far too heavy for mc

unreal quarry
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you just need to have more faith in people, cat. yes everyone acts like dum-dums, but you know deep down every single person is cabable of anything if they put their mind to it. if they dont want to, then thats on them and there is zero obligation to assist that type of behavior/person

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thats all i'm saying

slim nymph
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the whole conversation was around who each tool was designed for. timings is gonna provide better baseline data to the common user that is limited to better topics they can act on. spark is designed for people who want to dive deeper, and want to say "no i dont want to reduce skeletons, i want to find what skeletons are doing to optimize that scenario"

if the end user is wanting the latter, then yeah spark is better suited for them. but spark is also a proactive investigation where as timings allows reactive investigation. so you can always use both.

unreal quarry
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thats all i'm saying, aikar ^_^ you didnt say that at first, which is why i spoke up

slim nymph
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i didnt imply othewise lol, you just interpreted it that way ;P

golden gust
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Yea, I'm basically on par with aikar

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For a general, "why's my server lagging", spark is generally meh due to those biases, which is generally why debugging server issues where spark is involved, we often need foresight into what the issue is, either through previous knowledge, or from a timings report

unreal quarry
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i didnt imply othewise lol, you just interpreted it that way ;P
@slim nymph maybe. I've been around a lot of "elitists" lately and its kinda got me on edge about how easily people put down others without realizing it. "common users [cant use spark]" kinda hit me wrong i guess

worn ember
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i mean, people ask me why their plugin dont work when the first line of the stacktrace literally says "missing dependency x"

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so i lost all hope

slim nymph
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i still stand by that, you take your standard user who knows nothing on these topics and give them spark, they wont know how to read it, they wont know to ignore java.util.Stream stuff, or what "method a calls method b1 calls method c2" means.

Once people start actually wanting and learning these concepts, they are breaking away from common user label

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and its good for them to do it, not saying people shouldnt, but most arent / dont want to

wide chasm
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Pro tip: don't show stacktraces even in exceptional cases. Server owners will literally just grab a stacktrace and throw it at you without reading. Give a warning instead: half of them don't figure out that it's there and the other half actually read it.

slim nymph
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they want answers spoon fed to them

worn ember
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i mean its not really a bad thing, its just reality

austere ivy
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Do you log the stacktraces somewhere, stef?

wide chasm
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No

unreal quarry
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i think thats where we differ here. to me a "common user" (your term, not mine) would be the "end user" which is a player. server owners are a step up from that and should be (and are) very capable of using the tools like spark to diagnose issues that may arise during their career as a server owner

upper flicker
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most server owners are by default not capable of that

golden gust
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We're in the server market, we don't care about players

upper flicker
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its fine if your world view is that they should be

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but most arent

slim nymph
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im isolating context to people involved in running servers

wide chasm
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I give a warning, nothing more. Of course bugs don't have a specific handled case, so those do get a stacktrace, but then it's fine if they throw the stacktrace at me.

upper flicker
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and by not capable, I more mean not interested

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as will most 'users' in general of 'software'

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if your world view is that those who arent interested do not deserve support/time/whatever, that's fine

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but it will not get you very far

slim nymph
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like my wife has ran a private server for her and her friends before. she would give a giant NOPE on trying to debug problems herself. many peple just want to leave it to the experts to help them. and thats fine for a base level.

austere ivy
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@wide chasm so just log some easily understandable message to console?

wide chasm
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Yes

austere ivy
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gotcha.

upper flicker
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You'll find similar layers of abstraction in many other fields

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most people dont care how their car works

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most people dont care how they get their food

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the same parallel exists among server owners

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the majority may be, and probably is, capable, but they arent interested

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they have other things they'd rather do instead

unreal quarry
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i think i'm miscommunicating my thoughts here.. everyone is capable. to say they are not is a put-down. the difference is willingness. cant and wont are very different. i hate hearing people cant do this or cant do that. if they're not willing, thats one thing. say that then. doesnt sound so mean towards humanity, imho.

golden gust
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they can't be assed

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runs

upper flicker
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Im not going to get into a nitpick over words

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perhaps they arent capable of being interested

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maybe they are

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its not directly relevant however

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it does not change the outcome

unreal quarry
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i guess things like gender pronouns are more important then ¯_(ツ)_/¯

upper flicker
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lol

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cant understand why anyone would dislike you

golden gust
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I can, he said he was considering shaving his beard a good while ago

upper flicker
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well thats just not going to fly

uncut oriole
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someone please help me import paperspigot 1.8.8 to intellij

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pls

limber knotBOT
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@uncut oriole [Auto] We're now known as Paper.

upper flicker
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clone it, patch it up, import as maven project

uncut oriole
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@upper flicker dm

upper flicker
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no

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youll find my DMs are off

uncut oriole
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😦

mossy vessel
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kek

vernal moth
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You can dm me

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Then I can laught at you there

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Cause

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1.8.8

twin lagoon
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L

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barty clappywappy

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kashike clappywappy

mossy vessel
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surprised you have your dms open on here lol

peak dirge
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1.8.8 omegalul

vernal moth
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I always have my DMs open

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But I don't hesitate to tell ppl to fuck off

mossy vessel
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I started to close them for certain servers since certain kinds of people kept moving convos in there lol

upper flicker
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idk whats wrong with the channel right here

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I would even explain it

vernal moth
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He don't want to be shamed 😂

cosmic raft
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?warn @uncut oriole Please be sure to follow the community guidelines - do not ping staff without a good reason.

leaden oxideBOT
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dynoSuccess Matthew#0110 has been warned. || Please be sure to follow the community guidelines - do not ping staff without a good reason.

vernal moth
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Kash with the zero tolerance, heh

upper flicker
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kash mean dood

vernal moth
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Well, I tend to avoid communities where that happens, lol

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That's why you will not find me on 1.8.8 discords 😂

cosmic raft
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:3

mossy vessel
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kash strictt

vernal moth
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Altho I got spammed with porn on telegram once

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I just put my phone into dnd until he got bored, helped me to be more productive 😂

mossy vessel
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gg

vernal bone
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Good to see you here barty

peak dirge
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If any of you were witness to this "legend", he used MrPooHosting and was utterly incapable of thought

unreal quarry
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i just ignore DMs like that

upper flicker
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is 'MrPooHosting' a real thing or just commentary on the sad state of hosting

mighty storm
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i wish people dm'd me sad

upper flicker
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in this community it could go either way

unreal quarry
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i have like 500 open DMs where I just never responded lol

peak dirge
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@upper flicker Surprisingly enough it is real

mighty storm
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Mr 💩

upper flicker
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of course it is

grand pewter
mighty storm
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i may be high

peak dirge
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Get your free Minecraft server "shit plan" hosted in the "Canadian sewers" today https://mrpoohosting.com/index.php

upper flicker
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so that's real and not just satire eh

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good for them... I think

peak dirge
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I can't wait for MrPooHosting's next offer - American servers hosted underneath all the toilets at Trump Tower.

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I made that one up but it fit the theme.

wide chasm
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I'd buy a server from them

upper flicker
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plenty of sewers all over

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lots of regions you could add

mossy vessel
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Looks legit

vernal bone
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This website is an amazing joke IRLUL

cosmic raft
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you know what else is a joke

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the amount of air compared to actual contents in one of these:

austere ivy
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it's not air

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it's full of nitrogen gas to prevent them from oxidizing

cosmic raft
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potato potato

mossy vessel
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1/2?

cosmic raft
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sometimes more than ½

mossy vessel
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oof

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It's not better over here lol

cosmic raft
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is a scam

mossy vessel
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Ya

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I don't buy those bags anymore

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Just cans, if even

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Cuz they are not 1/2 filled think_smart

upper flicker
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kash is going to take down big dorito

mighty storm
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is nitrogen gas air thoo? ?isnt the asmostrphere like % air??

zealous wedge
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air is what you want it to be

upper flicker
#

air is mostly nitrogen yes

#

but that doesnt make nitrogen air

zealous wedge
#

I personally breathe only 100% oxygen

upper flicker
#

though youre really getting into pedantics either way

zealous wedge
#

someone get me a match btw

upper flicker
#

no z

#

no blowing yourself up today

#

not again

zealous wedge
#

mean :(

stiff yarrow
#

aww someone already beat me to the "its actually nitrogen" comment

upper flicker
#

dorito fun facts

cosmic raft
#

who cares what it actually is

#

it's annoying in any way

upper flicker
#

kash just wants his doritos!!1111

cosmic raft
#

exactly

mossy vessel
#

Gotta shoot em a tweet how to get a full bag kekw

zealous wedge
#

make your own chips

#

fresh corn chips are actually great

#

and all you need is corn tortillas and a fryer

mossy vessel
#

You make those yourself?

zealous wedge
#

i have yeah

limber knotBOT
#

i don't make the tortillas, but have made the chips

mossy vessel
#

And you survived that well?

#

I'm not very great at making unhealthy stuff lol

austere ivy
#

ah yes, all I need is just corn tortillas? those are like five bucks!

mossy vessel
#

gas fryer

golden gust
#

floor standing

limber knotBOT
#

they sell cheaper ones for home use iirc

mossy vessel
#

The only thing I fry are french fries

golden gust
#

Like, 10* cheaper

stiff yarrow
#

pretty sure you can get one for like 20-40 bucks

mossy vessel
#

clearly

#

I cannot recall spending sooo much on a fryer lol

zealous wedge
#

they're quite simple devices, just have to be built sturdily enough

worn ember
#

still lost tho hah

austere ivy
#

what's the game?

#

name?

worn ember
#

dota 2

vernal moth
#

Imagine playing inferior games

worn ember
#

inferior to what?

#

league of lol?

vernal moth
#

You say it

worn ember
#

we have a gaben announcer pack

#

what do you have

mossy vessel
#

fun

austere ivy
#

imagine not playing Minecraft peepoJuice

worn ember
#

providing support to dum dums is indeed much fun

#

minecraft vanilla is too ez

#

i like a challenge

austere ivy
#

p.s. who wants to play minecraft together happyshark

#

slide right into my dms 😏

#

(and maybe if we get enough people we can make a group :D)

worn ember
#

i havent played vanilla in years lol

viral hornet
#

@twin lagoon 🥺

twin lagoon
#

🥺

austere ivy
#

I'm genuine genuinely confused and very intrigued as to what's happening

twin lagoon
#

camm 🥺

austere ivy
#

Everywhere I go someone pings Michael and puts 🥺

twin lagoon
austere ivy
#

Is there some kind of competition happening???

twin lagoon
#

i'm just one sexy hunk of a man

austere ivy
#

proof?

worn ember
#

they want a piece of his cheesehead

mossy vessel
viral hornet
#

I can confirm

meager tusk
#

How do I get the pretty in pink role Michelle. @twin lagoon

viral hornet
#

That Michael is hunk

meager tusk
viral hornet
#

Are you pretty in pink, Idriz?

twin lagoon
#

idriz clappywappy

meager tusk
#

Indeed.

#

Michael clappywappy

twin lagoon
meager tusk
viral hornet
#

nice

austere ivy
#

eventually I'm gonna get around to writing all this down in some flow chart

#

there's some weird connections and overlaps going on with this whole simping thing

viral hornet
#

Aww, Brian. Bless you, boomer peepoheart

austere ivy
#

Camm is def connected to Michael, Idriz is also connected to Michael, I think simple is also connected to Michael.. I'm pretty sure Michael's just connected to literally everyone

viral hornet
#

Michael is hunk 🥺

twin lagoon
#

i have connections to anyone useful

austere ivy
#

And cat is somewhere in there too

viral hornet
#

I think cat just threatens to poop on people's rugs

vernal moth
#

I am so bad with steps

mossy vessel
#

Is that the way to the fridge and back

vernal moth
#

That's steps via a watch

#

Pretty much, yeah

#

And toilet

mossy vessel
#

lmao

viral hornet
#

I've been slack lately because MienCrAft

#

But inneed to start hitting oast the goal again ;-;

vernal moth
#

I hate Home-Office

fervent bone
#

./setblock x x x minecraft:end_gateway{Age:-9223372036854775808L} replace
I love this command, it doesn't show end gateway beacon trails when players enters and doesn't show it randomly either

worn ember
#

wtf step more

fervent bone
#

for those who are trying to make end portal style portals

#

this is the command to fix the beacon trail bug

#

exemple :P

meager tusk
#

Thats me

#

the dutch one takes 8 hours to load while it arrives at ur screen with a bycicle

austere ivy
#

I wonder how life actually is in North Korea. I genuinely have no idea what it's like over there.

#

Is there like no internet or something..??

twin lagoon
#

there is

#

there's a few good videos on youtube about it

#

people can visit north korea every now and then

upper flicker
#

what they get isnt what their citizens get though

#

but I suppose its still better than nothing

twin lagoon
#

still shows you a good portion of the country though

#

granted it doesn't show you the darkside

#

but it's still surrealistic in some parts

cunning raft
#

well if anyone talks bad about NK they just kill them

#

the vice series on NK was the best one i've watched

twin lagoon
#

oh yeah old vice content is always really good

cunning raft
#

old vice PepeHands

twin lagoon
#

shame they don't make those videos

upper flicker
#

what no link? do I have to google myself like some kind of heathen?

twin lagoon
#

.g vice north korea

limber knotBOT
#

(DiscordBot) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYd9gd6sNMY -- North Korea In The Age Of Trump - YouTube: "Jan 24, 2020 ... VICE Media founder Shane Smith has been traveling to North Korea for years, including during some of the most acrimonious periods in..."

VICE Media founder Shane Smith has been traveling to North Korea for years, including during some of the most acrimonious periods in its history. Back in 2018, the country was on a charm offensive and appeared to be slowly emerging from its isolation.

In the wake of a seri...

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twin lagoon
#

well i guess that works

upper flicker
cunning raft
#

yeah they did a bunch of vids on them

austere ivy
#

north korea sucks ngl

upper flicker
#

thanks brian

austere ivy
#

sorry if that's a bit spicy of an opinion.

#

I just can't imagine not being able to use most of the internet because of government.

cunning raft
#

i mean

austere ivy
#

thanks for the video you linked, michael, it's actually very fascinating.

cunning raft
#

there's more countries that do that

austere ivy
#

they inspect books because certain books are banned??

twin lagoon
#

duh

austere ivy
#

that's just such a perspective shift, I guess. sorry, I didn't mean to offend anyone from north korea with my statement, that wasn't my intention.

#

just quite a shock.

twin lagoon
#

lol you think anyone from NK is in here

cunning raft
#

yeah i don't think you're offending anyone lmao

twin lagoon
#

if anyone from NK is in here they've fleed the country, their family is dead or in concentration camps working for the rest of their lives and they've got a hatred for the country / dictator

austere ivy
meager tusk
#

Has anyone heard the eery music they play every morning there?

unreal quarry
#

you guys ever seen that movie, The Interview?

#

^_^

potent fossil
#

Only parts of it

cunning raft
#

yeah lmao

meager tusk
#

no but it sounds familiar

#

what is it about

potent fossil
#

Two journalists sneak in on the pretense of having an interview with Mr Supreme Leader and then raise hell

unreal quarry
potent fossil
#

it's a comedy

meager tusk
#

Yeah that one

#

I've seen it LOL

potent fossil
#

There is a cool organization that actually helps ppl escape NK btw

meager tusk
#

Did NK ever react to that movie

austere ivy
#

oh man that's been on my to watch list, I forgot about that one

unreal quarry
#

its a good one

potent fossil
unreal quarry
#

^_^

austere ivy
#

blobheart to that organization

cunning raft
#

seems like a scam

meager tusk
#

Ok they're doing good but

cunning raft
#

how do they even do that

meager tusk
#

Like if you think about it

potent fossil
#

It's not, they post videos of their escapes lol

meager tusk
#

They're human smugglers with a website

potent fossil
#

There is a way out in the north east where China and Russia border NK

#

It's hard tho, they have to time it when the guards are switching

#

or smth

#

Obv they don't say exactly how, because then NK would stop it

#

But they have rescued like 1K ppl or smth

austere ivy
potent fossil
#

Not many for sure, but...yea

meager tusk
#

oof yikes

#

movie failed then

potent fossil
#

Everyone pirated it, that's why

unreal quarry
#

i either pirated it, or watched it on netflix

#

i cant remember now

potent fossil
#

it's not amazing, lets be honest, but it is funny

limber knotBOT
#

I feel like watching documentories from undercover journalists about what goes on inside North Korea is time better spent...

potent fossil
#

Well time better spent would be not talking on discord and IRC all day too

#

But we're not criticizing that now are we phoenix

limber knotBOT
#

can't really talk with real people nowadays lol

unreal quarry
#

its a seth rogan movie. you either love that type of comedy style, or you hate it ¯_(ツ)_/¯

#

i love it

potent fossil
#

Phoenix, we all do it pandemic or not

#

Shitty argument sir, none of us spend our time very wisely

#

Quit virtue signalling

limber knotBOT
#

I really don't care what hurts your feefees lol

potent fossil
#

My feelings aren't hurt, I'm criticizing your shitty argument

#

But, ok

limber knotBOT
#

why do you care so much if my arguments are shitty?!?

potent fossil
#

"I CANT BELIEVE U WASTE UR TIME WATCHING DAT SHIT, WATCH DIS INSTEAD." he says as he wastes time on IRC

#

ok

viral hornet
#

Why can't weeee be friendddsss
why cant weeee be frienddds

limber knotBOT
#

my argument was literally "I personally think a documentory is more worth the time than a flopped comedy"

viral hornet
potent fossil
#

"ok"

#

well if you dont mind ill go waste MY time on other things now

#

unless you have smth to say about that, too

limber knotBOT
#

so yeah, I'm not sure why I wouldn't be allowed to voice my opinion on a subject

#

lol

#

I can say whatever I want, doesn't mean you have to follow what I say lmao

#

why do people always think that just because someone voices an opinion that the one voicing it expects that everyone else follows it exactly?

viral hornet
#

Lets move on and talk about Goats in Minecraft 1.17

potent fossil
#

Camm is the GOAT

viral hornet
#

One of my favourite features of the update tbh.

#

For a very long time I have wanted goats

#

Llamas sufficed when they were added until now

golden gust
#

I finally watched the interview a few dozen months ago, it was like K, but, I'm glad I didn't go to the cinema to watch it

unique snow
#

Everyone pirated it, that's why
There are ways to get statistics on that, and it looks like more people watched it than pirated it.

#

So even if those people who were not going to pay for it anyway, did pay for it, it was still a failure.

#

Or maybe not, these stats are from premier

#

Yeah okay, the stats held true for the entire release.

#

So box office 24.6M vs 44M budget

golden gust
#

I mean, moronic release date too

unique snow
#

What date was it released?

golden gust
#

christmas eve, 2014

unique snow
#

LOL

#

Okay, that's like a majority of America not watching it for 2 or 3 days.

golden gust
#

The movies release date was pushed back, and then it finally came out xmas eve, by the time people where free, I wouldn't be surprised if they hadn't just forgotten about it

unique snow
#

yea

worn ember
#

simp being triggered again, what else is new KEKW

#

the interview was okay, but nothing special :p

unique snow
#

I didn't even know about it

#

Oh well.. so if you rented the movie from Sony's site, you could allegedly share the video URL indefinitely and anyone can watch it.

#

I wonder why it was pirated 🙂

worn ember
#

shitty design

austere ivy
#

anyone here a fan of notebooks?

#

trying out bullet journalling as a planner, I'm really a fan, but I need a notebook, preferably dotted grid

upper flicker
#

kash likes notebooks

#

and graph paper

austere ivy
#

@cosmic raft please bestow your wisdom upon me, o' wise one

cosmic raft
#

what do you want

austere ivy
#

um

#

do you have any dotted grid notebook recommendations?

#

I would probably be using a pilot g-2 0.7mm or some fineliners

#

no watercolor or heavy inks or anything

cosmic raft
#

step 1: search it on some shop like amazon
step 2: add to cart
step 3: checkout
step 4: ???
step 5: KITTENS

austere ivy
#

would like it to hold up to constant daily use (as it'd be my planner) and preferrably something under 20 dollars

#

well that's what I've been doing thus far, lol

#

what is your opinion on the one I sent?

upper flicker
#

wait do the kittens come with the amazon delivery

cosmic raft
#

I generally avoid ones like that

#

i look for paper with holes punched in it

#

and put it in my own binder

#

lasts longer

austere ivy
#

hm, yeah I usually never liked bounded notebooks like that

golden gust
#

better stable surface too if you wanna write across pages

cosmic raft
#

^

#

and easier to take a page out if you need to

#

no tearing, just open binder and take it out

austere ivy
#

hm.

cosmic raft
#

and re-arranging pages as well

twin lagoon
#

kashike pepelove

austere ivy
#

good point. thank you.

cosmic raft
#

hi michael

twin lagoon
#

hello

golden gust
#

Then again

#

2020

austere ivy
#

also, more broadly, if anybody has any planning systems they like I'm open to recommendations ¯_(ツ)_/¯

golden gust
#

using paper

cosmic raft
#

Yea, when I can afford it, I am moving to an iPad

austere ivy
#

shh I like writing things down, it makes me feel more sophisticated lol

golden gust
#

I prefer typing, mainly because my writing can challenge a doctors some days

austere ivy
#

I'm actually trying to improve my handwriting ;p

golden gust
#

But, if i was a writing person, I'd go for a tablet, just coz then I can archive stuff better

#

being able to search your notes is like, 10/10

smoky prawn
#

bungeecord or waterfall guys? i am really confused

#

with this.

twin lagoon
#

waterfall

potent fossil
#

i would agree with tablet if it's affordable

golden gust
#

Literally already answered you...

potent fossil
#

waterfall, but if you have the choice actually choose velocity.

vernal moth
#

Velocity

#

Lol

twin lagoon
#

i don't think this guy will understand velocity

vernal moth
#

Waterfall is just little bit better than bungee

#

And bungee is utterly terrible

smoky prawn
#

ok

unique snow
#

So we shouldn't use paper in 2020? Yatopia then?

#

😉

twin lagoon
#

get out

unique snow
#

lmao*

limber knotBOT
#

imma keep using CraftBukkit thanks

#

that is, the one juust before the dmca

austere ivy
#

are the binaries for those still online?

#

binaries
distributions?

limber knotBOT
#

probably

#

jars

upper flicker
#

I prefer Canyon

worn pasture
twin lagoon
#

kitties

limber knotBOT
#

cat :32

#

:3c*

worn pasture
twin lagoon
mighty storm
worn pasture
austere ivy
#

I leave for one second, what did I come back to

#

welp, if you can't beat em, join 'em

#

🥺

twin lagoon
#

🥺

mighty storm
twin lagoon
#

@viral hornet 🥺

viral hornet
#

@twin lagoon 🥺

worn pasture
twin lagoon
#

get cucked camm

viral hornet
#

🥺

#

Courtesy of @waxen panther

twin lagoon
#

omg camm ur in mechkeys

viral hornet
#

I don't know what that is

waxen panther
viral hornet
#

Literally just joined it to use that emoji

twin lagoon
#

wtf

waxen panther
potent fossil
#

@minor badge @viral hornet @waxen panther and @twin lagoon are the cutest beings that have ever lived

twin lagoon
#

🥺

potent fossil
#

🥺

viral hornet
#

🥺

fallen oracle
#

Aight.

smoky prawn
#

any video with tutorial (waterfall) ??

viral hornet
#

Glare firework

fallen oracle
#

Did it work?

waxen panther
viral hornet
#

Restarting now Glare

fallen oracle
#

(Also make sure you're on the latest Paper)

viral hornet
#

oh

#

right

smoky prawn
#

okk thaanks

viral hornet
#

Tuinity KekwLaugh

vestal jasper
#

wow am I not cute?

fallen oracle
#

Oh rip then it won't work for you for the time being.

potent fossil
#

no Vic

#

You're sexy

#

There's a difference

vestal jasper
#

o ok

#

I'll accept that

viral hornet
#

vic is sexy 🥵

vestal jasper
#

no you two are

potent fossil
vestal jasper
#

turbo you as well

worn pasture
austere ivy
#

@potent fossil how come you didn't include me in that list??

potent fossil
#

Because you're a child.

fallen oracle
#

Yikes.

austere ivy
#

that's a very good point.

viral hornet
#

But he has Old Prune role 😦

potent fossil
#

I contested that earlier

viral hornet
#

Glare, I'm just going to load latest Paper

#

I can't wait to test this lol

austere ivy
#

I'm young in age, but boomer at heart ❤️

viral hornet
#

Oh are you actually not a boomer?

#

I thought you were

potent fossil
#

He's like 15

austere ivy
#

I'm literally 87 years old :)

#

shh don't listen to simple

potent fossil
#

I wish I would've bought an iPad instead of a Galaxy Tab

#

the Galaxy has some weird QoL things that are solvable with a reboot, but...

#

I'd rather not?... like

viral hornet
fallen oracle
#

LOL

viral hornet
#

bazza

worn pasture
#

thanks

austere ivy
#

@spare venture did you react with 🥺 to your own message??

worn pasture
merry talon
#

When did this server turn into the nation's top simp house

worn pasture
austere ivy
#

@merry talon 🥺

#

(what have I turned into)

cedar spade
#

BomBartyGameRealms

zealous wedge
cedar spade
#

huck

zealous wedge
#

huck

worn pasture
#

huck

austere ivy
#

huck

void void
#

Would it be possible to manipulate the files given at server resource pack time?

#

are there any requirements at giving a resource pack

#

could you give someone a .exe or a .jar or a .bat

zealous wedge
#

you send the client a url

#

it downloads it

void void
#

Oh

zealous wedge
#

the extension doesn't matter

#

but the client can only read a folder or a zip

void void
#

That's good to know

#

I was worried some server had done a manipulation and possibly provided malicious files

cedar spade
#

It still could be malicious

zealous wedge
#

oh and iirc there's a 100mb cap

#

yeah, could be a zipbomb or whatever

void void
#

zipbomb?

#

oh

#

it's not that much is it

#

it's only a link they auto download no?

#

agreed lol

#

also how do maps on the latest version lets say creating

zealous wedge
#

maps aren't full colour

void void
#

not even with the latest rgb update?

zealous wedge
#

you can make maps as long as you work from the predefined map colours though

#

no

#

the only thing they made rgb was text itself

void void
#

so the closest thing to that would be like

#

a ton of armor stands with rgb colors instead

zealous wedge
#

i suppose

#

someone made a plugin to play youtube videos with armor stands

void void
#

I was gonna ask if it was possible to make a live video

vernal moth
#

.g holovid github

zealous wedge
#

it looks nicer than youtube videos on maps

limber knotBOT
#

(DiscordBot) https://github.com/Holovid/Holovid -- Holovid/Holovid: Stream videos from websites, all in-game!...: "Stream videos from websites, all in-game! Contribute to Holovid/Holovid development by creating an account on GitHub."

cedar spade
#

h o l o v i d

void void
#

sort of like watch a stream in game

zealous wedge
#

but it's still kinda heavy on the server

void void
#

that's sick

#

there's audio?

vernal moth
#

"kinda"

#

Iirc

void void
#

are there any youtube channels that cover these types of topics cause this is damn sick as shit

#

like the technical side of minecraft servers

cedar spade
#

They do

#

Although I'm not sure what the state of the resource pack server software is right now

#

glances at kneny

zealous wedge
#

smh barty your logo's on it and you don't even know what it can do?

cedar spade
#

I don't think they had audio when it was being demoed on barty's server?

#

idk

zealous wedge
#

yeah

void void
#

that's a pretty sick project can't lie

#

I'm surprised it hasn't been used largely speaking

austere ivy
#

I feel old, I can’t believe that was months ago

cedar spade
#

I feel old, I didn't think I'd see the day where brian got a role here

#

:p

austere ivy
#

I should probably go and do something productive rather than complain about time passing ;p

void void
#

is this guys video a meme?

golden gust
#

Spigot and paper make changes which impact vanilla stuff

#

99% of players will never notice

#

But, if you're a technical server, you probably wanna avoid in craftbukkit

#

We're open to improving compat, it's just finding every case and fixing it without breaking other stuff

vernal moth
#

Ppl rely on extrem Implementation Details

golden gust
#

wat.

potent fossil
#

Welcome back Bartholomew

vernal moth
#

Like some "contraption" rely on the hash code of certain blocks

golden gust
#

That aspect applies to literally every game?

serene bolt
#

it's usually the ultra technical crowd who want a purist experience

golden gust
#

The only real complex aspect here is that people want to play and enjoy the game

#

They don't often wanna have to spend time learning a whole bunch of aspects to be able to mess around with their mates, etc

#

nor do they wanna have to fuck around to install stuff like mods, etc

#

and, once again: try modding quite practically any other multiplayer game which isn't catered towards modders

vestal jasper
#

half the fucking redstone mechanics are bugs / implementation details

serene bolt
#

lol I remember that one redstone design that worked a different way on Java 6 vs Java 7 back in the day

vestal jasper
#

yeah there are still redstone machines that rely on JVM bugs

golden gust
#

I mean, I used to be able to crash servers due to mojangs impl of their queued tickable blocks or something

viral hornet
#

Acai day homerdrool

potent fossil
#

wow that's HEALTHY

#

no wonder you're qt pi

golden gust
#

Ah, yea, the next tick list

#

HashTreeSet would basically desync due to the impl of the treemap and how mojang was doing some other horrors

austere ivy
golden gust
#

So, ez crash

austere ivy
vestal jasper
#

@minor badge

#

birb

austere ivy
#

is Proxi a bird person?

vestal jasper
#

no she's human don't be so insensitive, brian

potent fossil
#

You tell me.

austere ivy
#

huh

#

I approve of proxi ❤️

potent fossil
#

BIRB

austere ivy
#

I bred zebra finches for a short while

#

now have two lovelies ♥️

#

and also have ducks and chickens but that’s beside the point

#

point is, I really like birds

cosmic raft
#

Acai day :homerdrool:
@viral hornet no

worn pasture
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wow that's HEALTHY
doubt it, bet there's tons of sugar in there lol

viral hornet
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zzzzz

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It's fruit, it's fine.

worn pasture
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i thought i could see chocolate tho

viral hornet
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lol no

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unhealthiest thing in here would be the peanut butter

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Chocolate would be homerdrool tho

worn pasture
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what's the dark pasty stuff on the top

viral hornet
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acai

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o

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idk what that is tbh

viral hornet
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Youhaven't been to bondi/manly enough then

worn pasture
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clearly

austere ivy
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reddit decided to show me a relevant meme, see #memes

worn pasture
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last time i went to bondi i had something pretty similar to that though

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was delicious

viral hornet
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Last time I was in bondi we weren't allowed into a pub without putting shirts on 😂

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because "shoulders" can't be showing

worn pasture
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the fuck

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everyone shows their shoulders in bondi

viral hornet
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Yeah,w as super weird.

worn pasture
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where was this so i can avoid

void void
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what's bondi?

viral hornet
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Not in the RSL by bondi, apparently?

worn pasture
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beach in NSW

viral hornet
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It's a famous beach in Sydney

void void
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Oh

viral hornet
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Not even that great either tbh

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Just packed of people

worn pasture
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lol

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truth

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the walk from bondi to coogee is nice though

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and the beaches in between are way better

viral hornet
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Yeah 100%

vestal jasper
worn pasture
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i miss the sun :(

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HIS EYES OMG

vestal jasper
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HER \

worn pasture
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love the rip n dip art above the buttons

vestal jasper
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@worn pasture

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imagine having a cat that talks to you

worn pasture
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i want these buttons for my cat

vestal jasper
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it's a lot of fuckin work tbh

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she's been doing this with billi for I think 10 years? of the cat's 12 year life so far

limpid comet
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Hey pheonix, what was that modelling system you were using?

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HELP IM TRAPPED IN DISCORD SOMEHOW I GOT IT FULLSCREEN HELP

vernal moth
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F11

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It's chrome

limpid comet
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BUT IF I FN F11 MY LAPTOP SLEEPS

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ok i just alt+f4d

potent fossil
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lol

limpid comet
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i was genuinely scared for my life

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i don't want to be trapped in discord

zealous wedge
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discord is e v e r y t h i n g

limpid comet
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my nightmares have become reality

worn pasture
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discord is e v e r y t h i n g
@zealous wedge dont let dumrobo see that

limber knotBOT
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e v e r y t h i n g

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there is no irc

limpid comet
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what was mojang thinking

worn pasture
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haha cube game go brrr

limpid comet
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what did i just read

worn pasture
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dude was posting his tinder profile in the LP discord lmaoooo

limber knotBOT
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lol yikes

limpid comet
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what a player

fallen oracle
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The dude posted it in HelpChat too.

viral hornet
worn pasture
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camm gonna get in there and swipe right

stray nebula
viral hornet
mighty storm
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wha

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why would it be deleted

limpid comet
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maybe he doesn't have access to the original email?

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no wtf

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just write McClure's

mighty storm
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@limpid comet if he doesnt how does he sign in then

limpid comet
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he still knows the password to the account i'd assume

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just not the email account

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email pass =/= mc pass