austere ivy
I like picking up variety packs of sticky notes and either using them randomly or color coding 'em.
#general
young terrace
master
@cunning raft queue with me
young terrace
Boosting and smurfing is two diff things
viral hornet
can someone walk on my back ty
mighty storm
in a kinky or chiropractic way
mental meadow
yes
upper flicker
mental meadow
mental meadow
camm stop being so hot
viral hornet
mental meadow
it's illegal
viral hornet
nou
mental meadow
uwu
stiff yarrow
Are any of these “prime day deals” worth
mental meadow
Kinda? the mouse of my gf is a bit broken and it was like 40% reduced today so we just bought a new one
viral hornet
What parts did you get?
I reallllly want and need to build a new PC, but I also don't want to spend so much 
upper flicker
from amazon I think I only actually got the cpu cooler
newegg was kind of my jam for this build
office depot for the psu which is... weird af but whatever they had the best price
mental meadow
outside of AliExpress
upper flicker
lol
mental meadow
I might be able to get my first PC as a business for a customer soon 😄 exciting moments
viral hornet
Oh? Do you run your own business?
stiff yarrow
where tf was prime day when I was ordering pc parts two weeks ago
@upper flicker oh that’s a good point... hmm
worn ember
Shouldve bought em during black friday
upper flicker
too late
violet bay
idk where else to ask but does anyone know if there is a plugin that ALLOWS auto fishing?
I can only find ones that deny autofishing
mental meadow
Oh? Do you run your own business?
Kinda? I mean I have to to be able to get paid for like coding stuff
viral hornet
That's neat!
I would never build my own PC tbh, wouldn't trust myself to fuck something up :<
dusk drift
Same
Would rather pay a dude like $100 thats been doing it for years and years and does it everyday
next wind
its easy enough, but i guess if you have the money and dont really enjoy hardware and stuff sure
dusk drift
I hate hardware
mental meadow
I think I build around 20-30 pcs in my life :D I actually got training for it as well (which was useless since I already knew all the stuff)
mental meadow
It's all fun and games until you get a defect power supply
mental meadow
Instead of powering on it made a nice spark and some cool magic smoke
But corsair send a new one a day later plus chocolate
viral hornet
+1 hexed
My current PC I paid extra for the company I bought most of the parts off to build it
on the off chance something went wrong it would have some kind of cover behind it
over "you built it wrong ur dum bad luck"
upper flicker
tbh Id be more worried about shipping a PC than building one
unless youve got that form fitted foam laying around
viral hornet
I picked mine up all those years ago, just chucked a seatbelt around it 😂
never again
cosmic raft
rip
upper flicker
yeah Ive moved mine around in my car a few times, I used to move a lot
even that was a little scary
viral hornet
Nah it went fine, just was risky
viral hornet
I had a mate get their PC shipped, and it was in a nice box with padding and stuff
But you can never really trust the delivery drivers haha
upper flicker
when I was in HS I worked in a shipping dept
you basically pack everything for the worst fedex driver you can imagine
and if you dont, too bad its your fault
insurance? lol nope, pack it better
those videos of delivery guys throwing flat screens over fences, yeah your shit better be packed to deal with that
viral hornet
Yeah see that's fucked up
upper flicker
it is what it is I guess, not ideal but
those sorting systems really fuck with shit too
may as well just resign yourself to the air pack and foam gods
then youre putting the onus back on the customer
ye expanding foam appears to be the answer to that
or some of these larger companies are standardizing enough they just get one foam insert and use it over and over
ancient bolt
TIL you can define method references off of default interface super methods
Not really a surprise...just cool
sharp sentinel
Ooh I had something like that with particles years ago, using block outlines is so much cooler 😮
fallow tapir
Who's running the most interesting monitor setup?
There's always some dude with an ultrawide in portrait right in the middle.
fallow tapir
I'm running a 3 wide right now. I'd be interested in 3+1 but I don't have a stand that would support one above the others.
void void
yo serious question, what do I upgrade first with my netherite ingot
next wind
pick probably
fallow tapir
I think it totally depends on what you're doing.
next wind
^
fallow tapir
Are you on a crazy hardcore PvP server or peaceful survival?
If you were on my server, I'd recommend probably your chestplate.
considering a mid level arcane user can insta-kill most unarmoured races
next wind
nice plug 🚎 sounds like a cool server ngl
fallow tapir
I've been stuck in a loop of...
- design a server
- develop server
- server grows
- make more servers, build network
- popular, consistent player base
- get bored/forget I run a network and shut everything down
- repeat in a couple years
Been doing it since 2011 or so.
next wind
totally understand that. i gain and lose intrest for my server like every other day
fallow tapir
This is my fifth or sixth iteration of the loop.
I could go for hours talking about server designs but I finally found something complicated enough to keep me busy and make me think hard.
unreal quarry
you just described the developer cycle, too
fallow tapir
survival server with "forced" economy (due to professions) with race and class systems similar to D&D and Divinity OS2 (and kind of Warcraft).
unreal quarry
fallow tapir
I also am going to make the map limited in size. First few days, everything is expensive. Iron is expensive because not many people are doing their jobs (or even have skill to do them yet). Everything gets more common. Economy settles. A couple months later, natural resources start running out and times get desperate.
Reset the map after it turns into 2b2t from all of the magic and destruction.
next wind
any tips for preventing that billy? im guessing just realize when you start doing it and prevent yourself from beggining a new project?
fallow tapir
high level geomancers can rip open the ground for example
And high level players can easily one-shot a noob without any gear. So there's going to be some interesting battles.
Everyone's going to have to re-learn how to PvP.
unreal quarry
Everyone's going to have to re-learn how to PvP.
@fallow tapir good luck with that. you saw how everyone reacted to pvp changes mojang made. lol
fallow tapir
@next wind Honestly, if it's something big, don't start developing until you finish designing. If you can go two days without changing your design in a major way, you're probably ready to start development.
next wind
i never spend enough time in the designing stage, thanks for the tip
fallow tapir
@unreal quarry That's fair but this isn't some sword mechanic or something. It's basically D&D. There's so much new stuff, I don't think people will be annoyed. Just interested and/or overwhelmed.
@next wind For the D&D stuff, I changed the design every single day for a week. New ideas. Talking with friends. Friend asks "what about fishing" and throws you for a loop. Redesign. I'm on iteration 7 of the class system and I feel like every version is better than the last
next wind
never thought about feedback for that kind of stuff
fallow tapir
Always talk to other people as well
You think "how can I optimise this one thing" so much you become close minded and forget about other things.
Hell, shoot me a message. I love designing and thinking things through.
next wind
sure, if i ever have an open spot for an idea ill message you
Thank you so much for the ideas and help
zealous wedge
is simple secretly on bukkit forums?!?
young terrace
@viral hornet one of the very few perks of donators are to be able to select from several diff color schemes
I assume that’s what you’re talking about anyways, I didn’t see what simple posted
viral hornet
Sigh I'll have to donate
young terrace
or just use stylish or something
potent fossil
@viral hornet that's the 'april fools 2014' theme, which i think they did to fool ppl into thinking it was bukkit or idk
i just turned it on forever ago
zealous wedge
oh no that was for the "spigot bought by facebook" april fools
ok was that unfunny then, or is it just unfunny now?
potent fossil
its overall unfunny but the colors were just easier to look at than that ugly fucking orange
peak dirge
We are still missing one major operating system from our client portfolio and Linux support is coming.
1.1.1.1 has no Android support, color me surprised
zealous wedge
how... how does a dns server not support android?
fallen oracle
serene bolt
well there's base level DNS, then there's DoT and DoH... Android has supported DoT for a while now but I'm not sure if it supports DoH natively yet, but using an app like the one above should make it work regardless
potent fossil
whats the diff
fallen oracle
The letters, I guess.
serene bolt
DNS, DNS over TLS, DNS over HTTPS - just different ways of accomplishing DNS more securely
still cape
has anyone experienced internet connectivity issues after the latest windows 10 upgrade...?
hmm spotting suspicious looking DNS's
unless it's totally unrelated
peak dirge
@zealous wedge @fallen oracle I found that onhttps://blog.cloudflare.com/warp-for-desktop/ and found the absence of Android interesting. Probably an error on their part.
I opened up the page on my iPhone and the Android option wasn't there. Guess what, it was hidden:
Still confused on what they meant by the "major operating system" - is it Linux?
Presumably so now that I've given it more than a casual read.
Been a harsh day for me.
potent fossil
wat
merry talon
wat
potent fossil
wat
magic ice
wat
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fearless!
heady spear
good morning pwoxi
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city 🥺
zealous wedge
good morning 🙂
mental meadow
good morning
heady spear
@mental meadow uwu
mental meadow
hey citi 
inland stump
.
dim shadow
swift root
merry talon
wireguard isn't written in rust tho
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://community.ui.com/questions/Release-WireGuard-for-EdgeRouter/3765d2a4-1952-4629-948a-3ac9d9c22311 -- Release: WireGuard for EdgeRouter | Ubiquiti Community: "undefinedLochnair and I have ported WireGuard to the EdgeRouter and produced a Vyatta configuration module for it. You can download a release .deb..."
void void
.g wireguard-rs
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://github.com/WireGuard/wireguard-rs -- WireGuard/wireguard-rs: Mirror only. Official repository is...: "Usage. Most Linux kernel WireGuard users are used to adding an interface with ip link add wg0 type wireguard . With wireguard-rs, instead simply ..."
void void
probably not then
merry talon
vernal bone
void void
thought my screen is dirty
mfw
wireguard isn't written in rust tho
cloudflare's client impl is
limpid comet
Does anyone here have experience with GeyserMC? It seems pretty neat, but I can't imagine something like this works without a little bit of jank. Is it really as seamless as it appears?
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@restive thicket ^
olive marlin
I think some things are a bit jank - iirc there is custom enchanting interface and stuff, i believe it's in the README.
But they have a test server on which you can login and play to test it :)
quasi valley
.try
limber knotBOT
limpid comet
I am indeed going to try it, just wanted to hear what others had to say :p
Thanks @olive marlin, didn't know about the test server
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youre perfect x
heady spear
I've read like 900 pages of this rust tutorial thingy now
so far I've learned that there are numerical types and if expressions
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yes, there are u# and i# where # is 8, 16, 32, 64, or 128, ooor size to depend on the arch
heady spear
ye so it's all pretty standard, they try to make everything sound super exciting and unique though which is funny
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also epicness such as Wrapping<T>, to have wrapping arithmetic
heady spear
they mentioned that as well. The whole deal about overflow checking only being done in debug mode is pretty interesting
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and then there's the num crate for bigger ints
also f32& f64 
technically there could be arbitrary integer sizes cause LLVM but Apparently Not
heady spear
they started talking about ownership and I decided to watch viaplay instead, my brain is not awake enough for that today
or right now, at least
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lifetimes and ownership are ez
just wait till you get to implicit explicit types
impl Into<Option<impl Into<u32>>> for example 
sly ruin
Every once in a while I forget how awful LuaRocks is... then I'm saddened when I have to use it again.
void void
I am indeed going to try it, just wanted to hear what others had to say :p
@limpid comet uuid mixing is oof; remember that
and movement is unpolished
basically if you have AAC then you'll get fucked into... and beyond
unless you are moving in straight line
which is not the case usually
limpid comet
heh, alright
I don't plan to use it for production, but I just want to know how it works. Might be cool to add support for a gamemode or two at some point in the future
void void
uuid mixing is oof
whoever also added that into fastlogin should get punched :p
or at least say that it's broken as hell
with majority of the plugins
mental meadow
I need a list of hosting services for data storage, which do you all know? I already have OVH, Hetzner, HostEurope and AWS S3
limpid comet
worn ember
Google drive 
potent fossil
@mental meadow backblaze b2
digital ocean spaces
not sure if that requires a vps tho, i dont think so
and i believe linode has a block storage service now as well
mental meadow
yeah I need something in Europe
twin lagoon
@mental meadow exoscale
scaleway
google cloud
digitalocean spaces yes
block storage might not be the thing aurora is looking for
potent fossil
she said s3 so i just listed over block storage options
when i say block
i meant object
because im stupid
mental meadow
Basically what I need is external storage for a nextcloud, don't ask why
mossy vessel
why?
limpid comet
potent fossil
o.o
mossy vessel
Just don't have many things so you don't need to store many stuff 
potent fossil
well, if you just buy a storage server from hetzner or whatever and put minio (s3 compatible self host) then it would be pretty good
viral hornet
mossy vessel
20k 
mental meadow
I'll take the money
mossy vessel
Hilarious that people need to flex with their cashgrab money smh
potent fossil
that was very easy to set up, minio
(my dogger)
just took like 10 lines into my docker compose to have a private object storage serbur go brr
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dogge
potent fossil
yes
twin lagoon
"i've run some pretty popular minecraft servers"
mortalmines is fucking hated by the community because they discord bot everyone's servers
just block his ass
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kek
meager tusk
@twin lagoon hi michelle
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helo idriz
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how are u !
meager tusk
good 
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epic
limpid comet
so what do you guys use for async SQL database interactions with Java
oo
just found https://github.com/jasync-sql/jasync-sql
looks nice
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jdbi and futures
limpid comet
yeah it took me a while to figure out how the hell futures worked
but now I have a decent grasp, they're really nice to work with
mental meadow
qwq
limpid comet
can't wait to scrape away all my terrible Mongo subscriber/reactive-streams nonsense
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i found them trivial ngl
limpid comet
i'm just terrible with async code
mental meadow
thats because you are very smart proxi and we are not 🥺
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lolno
limpid comet
us simpletons bow down to your excellence
meager tusk
i haven't used jdbi before
i just use the vanilla java driver and hikari for pooling
and futures
limpid comet
wow your code is awesome
waxen panther
im honestly surprised it can even ban someone
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its only like 3k loc .....
waxen panther
😳
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a lot of which is due to CLOUD by the way
waxen panther
pr or shutup
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neither but thanks for offering
waxen panther
heady spear
proxi is too good for cloud
so I am trying to learn to touch type and my typing speed has gone down by 100wpm :3
limpid comet
ooh typing talk?
heady spear
bruh I type slower than my grandma when I touch type
twin lagoon
heady spear
I should prolly learn
waxen panther
michael pls 🥵
heady spear
basically, I am left handed and I only really use my index finger on my right hand when typing
limpid comet
michael nice
young terrace
heady spear
so using more fingers on my right hand is hard D:
potent fossil
ok minio is very sexy
potent fossil
was ezpz to install and i no longer have a sep bill for object storage
very naise borat noises
ok 5:40am time for bed
meager tusk
michelle 
heady spear
but also typing fast when you can't produce anything of value is kinda useless
soooo
👀 👀
viral hornet
mortalmines is fucking hated by the community because they discord bot everyone's servers
@twin lagoon oh for real?
Probably why the mentioned the 1-50k discord users
meager tusk
That is true, i can type fast but not code as fast 
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@heady spear touch typing is just typing w/o looking at your kb (yes, technically its rather by touch on the G & J keys or smth, but meh)
heady spear
touch typing doesn't work well for programming from my experience bcuz uh
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if you can type efficiently, it doesnt really matter tbqh
heady spear
ye ig I mean actually using the home row
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i dont
heady spear
but my right hand is hella underutilized
I use only 20% of it
the rest could just as well be up someones butt for all I care, just dangling
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i "over"utilise both mine
they reach over one another, e.g. by fighting for the H key, but it works epicly
heady spear
right, well I use all the fingers on my left hand , but the right hand is literally just my index finger lol
dunno why but that's how I've been doing shit for (at least) the last 13 years 🤷♂️
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reminds me i need to change up some key mappings
my left pinky is hella sore due to shift
heady spear
now that I dont have arrow keys I find myself using the right hand more tho
for the fn key, and also hjkl for vim ;3
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hjkl are godlike
twin lagoon
tap layers are best
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and uhh relative typing is dumb
heady spear
the scandinavian layout is hella weird tho, considering we need to use the num row for brackets n shit
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dont bother learning to do 3j or whatever when you do shit
searching is way better, with some chimeins from fF & tT
heady spear
ideavim is kinda buggy tho, sometimes the modes don't activate and then it kinda shits itself
I should just switch to vim completely
setup the eclipse code server 😛
heady spear
lol it really it, I gave it a go a while back and it sucked
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i love vim with a passion but ive never seen smth as bad as jvm and some lisps
heady spear
vim for C is godlike tho
heady spear
it's honestly my preferred way of writing c
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and anything non-JVM is godlike in emacs
worn ember
how is this not a valid commandblock command? am i dum?
i havent used commandblocks since like 1.12
it always gives me "player not found"
same with @p or @a
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is the command from a plogen
worn ember
i think essentials overrides it, but it happens for every command
twin lagoon
./minecraft:give
viral hornet
have you tried `m-
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^
viral hornet
what michael said
worn ember
i thought those were passed as filled in?
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no
worn ember
hmm
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commands themselves have to parse em
worn ember
thats kinda lame
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yup
ideally there would be some method like CommandSender#parseEntitySelector but meh
void void
meh
worn ember
is that a bukkit limitation? or just mc being mc
void void
2nd
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both
theres no easy way for plugins to handle the data
nor do cmd blocks pre-parse
worn ember
hmm, didnt that work in old versions tho? I'm pretty sure i just used commandblocks to randomly teleport players (with plugins)
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not unless the plugin itself parses it
worn ember
i see, must be remembering wrong then
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cc @heady spear - does cloud have smth for it?
worn ember
theres nothing in the api for it either right?
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not afaik
worn ember
i mean, im fine with parsing it manually but i'm not doing ranges and other stuff
worn ember
i'm already using acf and i dont really feel the need to switch
heady spear
https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/bukkit/org/bukkit/Bukkit.html#selectEntities(org.bukkit.command.CommandSender,java.lang.String)
We just use this & hook into the brigadier selector types
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oh epic
heady spear
in the future we're going to allow for custom entity selectors as well, and have our own selector system in general because I wanna support it on 1.8+
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thank u citywald
quasi valley
trail elk
Does anyone know of a working plugin which makes new players invulnerable to pvp and pve for X amount of time?
restive thicket
@limpid comet Hello yes I am fairly experienced with Geyser. Feel free to ping me if you need something! I was sleeping then though. :o
twin lagoon
camotoy 
restive thicket
Michael!
twin lagoon
custommodeldata
restive thicket
;;;;;)
twin lagoon
meager tusk
@twin lagoon 
slim nymph
@worn ember just need someone to PR support for selectors to the Entity/Player/OnlinePlayer context's, if you wanna do that 😉
compact pulsar
Does that means finally all dot versions will be same protocol versions just like pre-1.9?
worn ember
I might at some point, i just processed it manually for now.
magic ice
Does that means finally all dot versions will be same protocol versions just like pre-1.9?
No not all
slim nymph
not all, but "more"
magic ice
yeah
mossy vessel
chrome quest
If you have land that surrounds an ocean instead of an ocean that surrounds land. What would you call that ocean? Like you can’t call it a continent.
slim nymph
it came from a complaint from me that they bumped the protocol version on 1.16.3
the snapshot bit seems useless to me, but i guess it gives them a system that lets them distinguish snapshot vs final release if the protocol is actually the same w/o bumping the version
worn ember
less work for kenny
quasi valley
no, actually more
worn ember
quasi valley
started https://github.com/ViaVersion/ViaVersion/compare/5eccc2e3cd92^...26acc267d4bf, honestly just wanna die and it'll prolly not work anyways
so it will probably stay as the hackery that is https://github.com/ViaVersion/ViaVersion/compare/dev (internally keeping the release protocol instead of what server/client actually have during snapshots)
slim nymph
what?
compact pulsar
what?
@slim nymph
young terrace
just found infinite money glitch irl
just withdrew $100 from an atm but it hasn’t depo’d from bank
worn ember
@slim nymph where does the command processing happen in acf?
subtle hollow
it'll probably happen later @young terrace
@worn ember theres a discord for that lol
slim nymph
@worn ember the entire thing? lol
worn ember
well i need to get the selectors from somewhere right
slim nymph
would just add the Bukkit.selectEntity thing here IF its MC 1.13+ or w/e version added that method
worn ember
hmm so just add it at bukkit level then?
worn ember
fair enough
slim nymph
"that block game?"
worn ember
i wish i could be the core
cosmic raft
cached probably
slim nymph
for version detection its already on the manager @worn ember https://github.com/aikar/commands/blob/master/bukkit/src/main/java/co/aikar/commands/BukkitCommandManager.java#L81
worn ember
@slim nymph hmm seems like you're using bukkit 1.12, so it doesnt exist there yet.
do i bump to 1.13?
fallen oracle
LOL
twin lagoon
fucking weeb
worn ember
kek
magic river
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thankfully, yes
young terrace
it looks so clean
twin lagoon
xbox still has the best UI
cosmic raft
said no one ever, michael
twin lagoon
have you seen the new dashboard
cosmic raft
nope
young terrace
fuck the new dashboard
cosmic raft
don't have one
next wind
compression messed that image up lmao
twin lagoon
microsoft's new xbox fluent design just looks fucking great
windows game bar & xbox app looks good aswell
meager tusk
not as epic as you @twin lagoon
magic river
Is the PS5 another stupid crossbar design that wastes most of the screen?
I guess I'll just watch the video
twin lagoon
ps5's ui isn't too bad either
magic river
Hrm, that always capturing recent video bit makes me think the SSD is going to burn out quick
It's also soldered down and can't be wholly replaced by an expansion drive, afaik
umbral parrot
cosmic raft
unreal quarry
lol that ps5 ui video pretty much showed 90% of what ps4 can do (screenshots, stream video, check game progress and activities, etc etc) and 10% saying "4k"
smh
young terrace
oh yeah I’ve seen that @twin lagoon
it looks exactly like this gen’s ui
just a flat interface
stiff yarrow
I'd care but the chance I get a ps4 this year is pretty slim
slim nymph
@worn ember yes
stiff yarrow
yeah that does look pretty windows 8 @cosmic raft
mental meadow
oof the vienna funeral service is selling a face mask that says "deny corona - save jobs" 😂
mental meadow
the latest
mossy vessel
no
craggy steppe
hmm but i dont have to update my .jar every time a new build comes out, right?
stiff yarrow
auto updating software that isn't a service 🤢
@craggy steppe you should update it every once in a while, preferably often
you don't have to do it every build
craggy steppe
ok but wont that break my server?
stiff yarrow
no?
mossy vessel
That's why you test things before
stiff yarrow
in general paper devs will avoid pushing stuff that is game breaking
cosmic raft
.1.16
stiff yarrow
when a new version of MC comes out you should probably wait to update for a few weeks since those are always bug fiestas
craggy steppe
thanks guys, i really appreciate it
cosmic raft
.1.16
mental meadow
korobi has been dead for a few hours kash
cosmic raft
@upper flicker discord bot is not connected to irc, pls fix :C
unreal quarry
.g how to fix bot
upper flicker
Net split fun times
stiff yarrow
thank the lord for the pepe chat browser in disguise known as discord
mossy vessel
Unfortunately
And I was wondering if something happened to the typical irc folks smh
stiff yarrow
yeah they are on ancient software that doesn't charge them for emotes, shame on them
viva bloatware 
mossy vessel
What a bummer
stiff yarrow
yeah I'll miss all 3 of those IRC guys who also run discord clients anyways
young terrace
I'd care but the chance I get a ps4 this year is pretty slim
@stiff yarrow ?
stiff yarrow
ps5
young terrace
why buy a PS4 this year
young terrace
apology not accepted
mossy vessel
They have a dc acc but I haven't seem them using it in ages lol
young terrace
why
stiff yarrow
it is just a net split, they resolve themselves within minutes (sometimes hours)
so just wait
upper flicker
Depends why it split
upper flicker
If it split because the whole connection went down, the bot will eventually stop retrying and exit in error
stiff yarrow
upper flicker
And I don’t have that IP on my phone so lol, irc is gonna have to wait a couple hours
stiff yarrow
I found a similar exit condition in mcMMO and
I modified it to never give up
stupid mac keyboard
upper flicker
It giving up is very intentional
The service manager should be informed and decide how to handle it, not the bot itself
stiff yarrow
this reminds me I tried the new macbook pro keyboard and it barely felt any different to me
meager tusk
waxen panther
worn ember
unreal quarry
stiff yarrow
I need to convince my GF to let me pepe again pepes in his imagination
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cobalt surge
stiff yarrow
😡
limber knotBOT
and here I was wondering why this channel was so quiet, lol
quasi valley
ngl PlayerVelocityEvent has some top tier docs
Called when the velocity of a player changes.
limber knotBOT
apparently dis4irc doesn't properly rejoin after netsplits? :S
cosmic raft
uwu @quasi valley 
quasi valley
upper flicker
It never found out it was disconnected
So I don’t know if that server is still an island or if there’s a bug in kitteh or what
Have to look at the logs later to see what happened
upper flicker
If the server was just an island I can make it rejoin after 30 seconds or something
limber knotBOT
well other people rejoined from the netsplit so it's not an island
limber knotBOT
(or their client handled it differently)
cosmic raft
just nod and go on michael
twin lagoon
limber knotBOT
"how to English"?!?
twin lagoon
well you guys are all using these boomer terms
limber knotBOT
also Korobi seems to have joined without issues 👀
cosmic raft
Koroib uses KICL as well
cosmic raft
I blame phoenix
limber knotBOT
definitely an issue with dis4irc though as my own instance had the same issue lol
cosmic raft
#blamephoenix
limber knotBOT
cosmic raft
cosmic raft
:3
upper flicker
Wat
waxen panther
worn ember
cunning raft
his ad style is great
only reason i know about mint mobile and aviation gin is because of his ads
limpid comet
What's going on behind the scenes here
upper flicker
cunning raft
i think proxi is referring to plans for more robust chat options in the client
iirc this has been planed for a while
restive thicket
The protocol ability for it has been present since 1.16.
cunning raft
correct, just waiting for the client related settings
cunning raft
oh okay the pre-release is out
minor badge
i did not make that statement with any plans in mind
egg just pointed it out that the issue (all chat msgs are sent as server msgs) was there, and i saw it could very much be an issue for chat plugins
limber knotBOT
nobody should implement that in their plugins without the ability to bypass blocking via permissions lol
cunning raft
i mean i don't think anyone should expect for this to work on bukkit sadly
limber knotBOT
why not?
cunning raft
well most servers aren't gonna use this
minor badge
i think it's a good idea nonetheless, phoenix
cunning raft
especially since most big servers use 1.8 ViaVersion
limber knotBOT
that's on the server to support
cunning raft
that's my point
limber knotBOT
and nobody cares about shitty, outdated software
minor badge
if staff members need to talk with a player bypassing ignores, they can use a plugin to toggle to system chat
limber knotBOT
my solution will either be to just send all staff messages via system ones or trying to hook into that menu if it sends a status to the server
unreal quarry
from what we can see, the client considers a mesage a system message if both the upper and lower bits of the uuid are 0
anything else is a chat message where the uuid is the sender
minor badge
yep, a UUID(0, 0) is a system message
minor badge
as long as it's system with null uuid, it'll not be possible to ignore it without mods
limpid comet
I'm definitely taking use of the social interactions menu
minor badge
boutta block kash
limpid comet
Do you think we'll get something akin to Player#isBlocking down the line?
limpid comet
Alright
limber knotBOT
depends on whether or not the client sends that data
cunning raft
i doubt it
limber knotBOT
seeing as it sends a lot of crap to the server I would hope it does send that too lol
limpid comet
Yeah I was checking around
It most likely is just client side
But I really hope it isn't :p
limber knotBOT
bethe change you want to be and update it ;)
limpid comet
If you can take over making my eggs, I'll go update wikivg
minor badge
i might be fully misinterpreting it, but i'm faiiirly sure a mojang employee said they will not send a packet with ignores due to privacy concerns
worn ember
ye, no one needs to know i blocked proxi
limber knotBOT
which makes this whole thing pointless for any server with a more complex chat system
nice
privacy concerns about blocking
no concent about message content
unreal quarry
sounds like your kinda guy, phoenix
minor badge
they cited gdpr
unreal quarry
runs away
limber knotBOT
*concern 👀
unreal quarry
mah privacy!
wide chasm
"As per section 13.b Minecraft servers shall not be able to see which players blocked whom" /s
worn ember
i mean, if you send messages its clearly intended for others to see
cunning raft
law professor pheonix
limber knotBOT
they just want to cover their asses as they provide a in-client way to block people and don't want to be connected to any server functionality
minor badge
how doesn't it? the server will need to save the blocks if they want literally any use of it
vernal moth
client will handle all this
minor badge
^ there's not a whole lot to worry about
chat messages are supposed to be sent with the correct sender (unless "notice me" staff mode or whatever)
API for that is PR'd to Bukkit & Spigot, for the record
worn ember
is that what the change in adventure was for?
limber knotBOT
well until they allow proper ignoring of sign, book, title, actionbar and hologram chat messages this is pretty pointless, lol
worn ember
on the sendMessage
limber knotBOT
sending a packet would've allowed for all types of plugins to add support for the ignoring ¯_(ツ)_/¯
minor badge
GDPR though
worn ember
vernal moth
this is also most likely just the beginning (tm)
ignore lists are always handled client side, for virtually everything
limber knotBOT
simply putting an option below that says "tell the server about the ignore list" would solve this
minor badge
submit a feature request then
limber knotBOT
they don't have a way to submit feature requests 👀
worn ember
imo the server shouldn't deal with this at all
minor badge
i don't work at mojang and dont have any say in that :p
oh f
though im fairly sure they do
next wind
they do
limber knotBOT
their only way is the r/minecraftsuggestions subreddit xD
and that's only semi-official iirc
limpid comet
Doesn't the MoJIRA handle feature reqs
mighty storm
it's like http://feedback.Minecraft.net
limber knotBOT
no
mighty storm
no
worn ember
send in your submission along with the millions of garbage requests
cosmic raft
Mojira*
limpid comet
Well that was a swift nomeggies
limber knotBOT
they close everything that only looks barely like a request, bluely
next wind
snowballs still dont put out fires 😩
wide chasm
It is
limber knotBOT
oh, that one. didn't that use voting too or something?
worn ember
snow burns
wide chasm
Next to Report Bugs
mighty storm
Yes it uses what mixer and discord used to use: uservoice
It's like expensive as hell for the value you get idk why they would buy it
unreal quarry
Mojira*
@cosmic raft lol dont do that, the mods will close the ticket and say use reddit lol
limber knotBOT
so only the shitty, upvoted suggestions make it into the game, nice
cosmic raft
[10:10] bluely: Doesn't the MoJIRA handle feature reqs
limpid comet
In any event, I'm with Pheonix. Would be nice to be able to block game invites of the player is blocked. But I suppose this doesn't really matter that much since blocks aren't permanent
limber knotBOT
mojira mods are mostly Pepega
quasi valley
especially kash
limpid comet
Or, persistent*
heady spear
better than spigot mods 👀
limber knotBOT
technically everything you send via chat can be send with the senders UUID
quasi valley
spigot mods
limber knotBOT
it's just not working for everything else in the game
mighty storm
Aren't they spigot plugins
heady spear
but it not being persistent makes it semi-useless
limber knotBOT
eww, they use microsoft accounts on the feedback thingy -.-
heady spear
like when would you want to only block someone 'til you relog? lol
mighty storm
Just realized i was assigned an exam a week ago and didn't know about it until today oops
limpid comet
Yeah, honestly seems like they half-assed it
cosmic raft
may I have your attention please
heady spear
well ye it's mojang so
cosmic raft
minor badge
i'm faiiirly sure it'll be stored on ms servers later on in the prereleases
heady spear
i wanna store u on my ms server
minor badge
most likely
vernal moth
proxi knows more than you guys
limpid comet
That's so stupid
minor badge
i do not though
vernal moth
and should be careful what she shares
limpid comet
What are they doing with my blocklists
heady spear
We geeeet it ur cool & have signed the bloody NDA
minor badge
hey, this hasn't been shared! i've no idea how they're gonna handle blocking
cunning raft
mighty storm
What
heady spear
cunning raft
yes you can
limpid comet
I need to be nitro
cunning raft
u don't have nitro
mighty storm
Stickers soon on discord I guess, got a notice when I upgraded canary
limpid comet
That's stupid, when did that change happen
mighty storm
Looks like you need to buy the stickers as well
cunning raft
you've always needed nitro
limpid comet
I swear I could use animated emojis before
heady spear
tf are stickers
cunning raft
chew did you see the latest experiment too
mighty storm
Another new experiment?
mighty storm
Replies are back but they're serverside now
cunning raft
yeah clyde freaks the fuck out if you try to use them
heady spear
o well back to watching saw ur all stinky and dum bai
besides kash bcuz kash is awesome
mighty storm
The Clyde error is so specific to dming someone but I see it more on servers than in actual DMs
heady spear
yes
cosmic raft
wonderful
unreal quarry
I swear I could use animated emojis before
@limpid comet few months back they changed it. you used to be able to use the aminated server emojis in the same server even without nitro. but plebs like me that refuse to buy nitro ruined that, i guess lol
limpid comet
In that case, I'm going back to watching Joel get probed by aliens
cosmic raft
@heady spear https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CKjNcSUNt8
limpid comet
Yeah I suppose, that's really unfortunate
heady spear
lol
limpid comet
Not that I use emojis that much, actually, guess I don't really care
limber knotBOT
eww, they wont let me submit my feedback :(
next wind
why?
limber knotBOT
can't press the submit button xD
void void
Question purely out of interest. Is there a kind of shared network with which you can connect your own local or hosted server? A kind of ingame server list where everyone can add their server and every server is connected to everyone else. That would be really interesting.
short yarrow
How do you guys feel about NonNull and nullable annotations? I see people use them, but it feels like it's used really inconsistently
short yarrow
haha
mighty storm
aw man dont ghost ping him
wide chasm
Use it consistently and then profit
ocean harbor
can someone give example restart script?
mighty storm
check pins of #paper-help
worn ember
@slim nymph how do i deal with the fact that Bukkit#selectEntities returns a list, getOnlinePlayer only deals with a single player
young terrace
jda or javacord
unreal quarry
jda
mossy vessel
kord
heady spear
DED Minecraft forces you to set limit=1
mossy vessel
kek
heady spear
when it expects a single entity
worn ember
wut?
heady spear
in the vanilla entity selectors they want you to set limit=1, if you want to mirror vanilla functionality then you should do that too
worn ember
im not dealing with that, bukkit can deal with that
mighty storm
whats the point of hiding the email lmao
worn ember
i learned from the best
in rtp i just get all the entities and teleport them all, but idk what behavior aikar wants
young terrace
what do plugins that ship their own discord bots do
vernal moth
hopefully not include bot tokens
young terrace
or is it best to just use one global bot for a plugin with a simple purpose
mossy vessel
Plugins ship bots? I thought people just hook into discordsrv for stuff like that
Or provide an own solution
young terrace
yeah that's what I've been hearing people are doing now?
shipping JDA within their Spigot plugins
mossy vessel
minor badge
just hook DSRV
unreal quarry
what do plugins that ship their own discord bots do
@young terrace I side load the JDA for my bot (i refuse to install dsrv anymore, its too bloated)
mossy vessel
People shade a lot of weird stuff if they don't know how to solve things smart
cosmic raft
Just shade maven central
minor badge
i do that
young terrace
I wonder if there's an API that will do this for me so I don't have to @unreal quarry
minor badge
it works pretty well
except that one plugin every so often that relies on other plugin's shit and suddenly it breaks cause wrong classloader
young terrace
nicee
mighty storm
see i dont get the whole sideloading thing
young terrace
run a standalone bot
mighty storm
youre just delaying the downloading of necessary libs and it's a lot more difficult to manage and handle
unreal quarry
its the difference between a 20kb jar and a 12mb jar in this case, chew. and spigot's resources has a 5mb limit, last i checked
mighty storm
assuming host doesnt block downloads or anything
cunning raft
spigot resource can't be a 5mb limit
discordsrv is on there
plus you can just exclude all the audio shit
cunning raft
ohh
mighty storm
I assume the hard limit is 100 MB cus cloudflare
young terrace
they link you to the GH DL link @cunning raft
azure flower
rip plan if they ever added a limit that low lol
young terrace
I guess I could use discordsrv api
mossy vessel
Keeping the limit low so you can't shade kotlin :(
mighty storm
good!
young terrace
oh but they implement the functionality that I'm writing in an independent plugin already
nevermind
mighty storm
Twitter
mossy vessel
iirc there is now a standalone plugin that shades kotlin+reflections you can download and depend on lol
tawdry holly
Why don't new files have the same permission if I gave it recursively?
new as in newly uploaded via ftp
vernal moth
most likely your client doing dum stuff
tawdry holly
Sharex bad
golden gust
No, that's literally just how perms work
You can generally use stuff like ACLs to deal with that type of stuff
tawdry holly
ACLs?
golden gust
welcome to hell
warm anchor
Run as root 
tawdry holly
golden gust
I'd suggest googling it, ACLs are on the list of shit I refuse to explain
golden gust
(perms in general, tbqf, but, ACLs are at a whole new level of shit going sideways if people fuck up)
files will be created owned by the user who created them
ACLs basically let you override the default perms for a folder, etc
vernal moth
acl = access control list for those who dont know
cunning raft
tawdry holly
lol
yeah no, I give up for now, way too tired for this
Thanks anyway, I'll check it out
viral hornet
@twin lagoon 🥺
limber knotBOT
you should be able to specify which permission new files should have on whether program you use as the server which receives the file uploads
twin lagoon
🥺
void void
🥺
mighty storm
@cunning raft thats ACLS not ACLs (as it clearly says in the search box smh google bad google bad)
nvm ddg did it too dum search engines
golden gust
Well, search engines don't generally deal with plurality too well, not to mention, ACL in general is a pretty broad "term"
vernal moth
.g acl linux
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/linux-access-control-lists -- An introduction to Linux Access Control Lists (ACLs) |...: "Feb 6, 2020 ... An introduction to Linux Access Control Lists (ACLs) · Reviewing the basics · More Linux resources · Viewing the current ACL ·..."
vernal moth
tada
hehe, interesting, latest snapshot has server side chat filtering using a 3rd party service
you can enter whatever you want I guess, as long as it implements the api
cosmic raft
yes.
cosmic raft
what do you want?
next wind
yeah @s is selecting the person/thing that ran the command
if a player powers a commandblock, the command block still is the one running it
unreal quarry
what if its redstone powered?
worn ember
very useful
unreal quarry
runs away
worn ember
well ok then it works as intended as in not working at all
mighty storm
ive never gotten @s to work in command blocks
mossy vessel
Am I the only person who doesn't bother with command blocks at all? lol
minor badge
same tbh
ashen cliff
Same.
mossy vessel
good good
slim nymph
Holy shit Microsoft saving gamestop?
worn ember
@mossy vessel i just wanted to support selectors lol, so i wanted to make sure it worked
mossy vessel
Nw, no offense lol
worn ember
i havent used them since 1.12 or something
mossy vessel
I don't really use command blocks. If I want to execute something by the server I write a plugin 
worn ember
depends what it is really, if its just a few lines i'd probably use commandblocks haha
mossy vessel
I'm too dumb to use the mc syntax
pseudo pilot
online class is a mess
hollow pilot
What platform?
pseudo pilot
zoom university
hollow pilot
Yuck!
pseudo pilot
yeah