my kid asked me what time it was. so i pointed to the clock over my head. she goes "itsss..... foooour...... seven!"
#general
unreal quarry
worn ember
we still have an analog one
unreal quarry
smfh
worn ember
in the kitchen
unreal quarry
she's 16 years old
quasi valley
and that that’s giving them a bit of a problem 
minor badge
we were taught analog clocks in school
worn ember
thats actually sad
wide chasm
^ Reading analog clocks is primary school stuff
worn ember
then again, idk how to use those old disc phones
minor badge
(note thats like age 7, so not much more they can teach us to be quite frank)
quasi valley
yeah I’m talking ages 12+
chrome quest
Is there a way in Linux to delete every file in a folder that starts with a certain string?
quasi valley
so not pre school 6-10 here
worn ember
they can teach you to do taxes at 7, since they dont seem to have time for that anywhere else
minor badge
rm -f abc*?
wide chasm
Tax form is already filled in here, so don't need to learn much unless you have very complicated incomes/expenses.
worn ember
i just get someone else to do them
quasi valley
that’s a bit expensive here
worn ember
wide chasm
Anyone with just a regular job doesn't need to do anything to do taxes
chrome quest
Thanks.
worn ember
gotta make sure the feds dont find my illegal plugin market
quasi valley
but it’s also hella complicated to do yourself if you want to earn money as an individual w your own business or something
worn ember
^the reason my dad went bankrupt
quasi valley
I don’t know why the state wants to make paying it as hard as possible
worn ember
so they can get you to pay more if you forget something
quasi valley
true
minor badge
its hella easy over here
wide chasm
Our government just has a website on which you can lookup more complicated parts of taxes, just go to there and see what you have to do
minor badge
for general filing, your employer just does it for you. you have to approve them getting your tax info, but thats all youve gotta do
personal income is done by just telling em what you made money off and how much
wide chasm
That's how I learned that donations is the best way to make money tax wise :)
worn ember
our government has a site for everything, its just a matter of remembering the url, cuz they never thought to make a uniform system that actually has it all in one place
quasi valley
That sounds too good to be true here, ever 
minor badge
ours just link across and back and forth, ded
worn ember
they'd have urls like "doyourbankingstuf.be" and stuff but like how tf are we supposed to remember 20urls like that
minor badge
luckily ours just go from skatteetaten to difi to altinn to skatteetaten again
worn ember
like for real
wide chasm
It's just "rijksoverheid.nl" here
worn ember
how are governments so fucking bad at everything they do
minor badge
they hire folks like you to do tech stuff
worn ember
i mean, its easy money
ask for a couple mill for a webpage, deliver half of it and they'd still take it
minor badge
is it though
wide chasm
Our government may have paid 3 billion on a website once...
minor badge
is it easy to just leave stuff broken? for all of your country to see? a broken product with your name in the footnotes?
worn ember
those 5 people that remember the url, oh no
wide chasm
The programmers did too, after seeing the codebase they needed to work with
worn ember
De Lijn (public bus transport) paid like 10mil for a mobile app and then were like "yeah nope, we need this and that" then they got sued for not having the right specifications and they lost the lawsuit too 
ended up costing like 25mil
and they had no app
ez clap
wide chasm
Only a couple million, no big deal
worn ember
yeah, then they complain they dont get enough money to pay their employees
some dum dum's in this world
wide chasm
They were probably just salty. I'd be too after losing 25 million.
autumn magnet
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unreal quarry
uh..
upper flicker
where's the phone number
how am I supposed to get in on this amazing business proposition without a number
wide chasm
I'd like two please
cedar spade
thanks for the shitpost
worn ember
omg real MD?
limber knotBOT
tell us the story of your username
worn ember
TIL you can make methods final
cunning raft
upper flicker
cedar spade
wat
upper flicker
I mean I guess, its not a super commonly used feature in MC, or really in general
just seems weird you didnt know
worn ember
yeah cuz i never seen/used it
fallen oracle
Just wait till he hears about async and sync
jade light
transient
upper flicker
strictfp
potent fossil
i wrote dis for a bad code challenge last year https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/bad-code-challenge.362186/#post-3328912
ancient bolt
@upper flicker I used strictfp in production code once
upper flicker
I used it in what was supposed to be production code exactly once
We ended up not using it and switching to a different lang
ancient bolt
wow not a java purist
ancient bolt
I needed to verify the results I was getting back from SQL, which involved IEEE-754 floating point shit, so I popped a strictfp up on there and felt rly smrt
cpp is the worst language
how dare u
upper flicker
pls forgive
ancient bolt
anyways my favorite language is javascript
upper flicker
zealous wedge
hey strictfp could become obsolete: https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8175916
cunning raft
ideally it would make sense for that to happen
but i doubt that will ever happen any time soon
upper flicker
that should probably happen zml
I dont know that it will, someone could come out of the wood work and "muh compat" and then 😦
ancient bolt
Eh I doubt
I think it's likely to happen
Non-strictfp used to be important for performance
but now there's no difference on modern hardware
upper flicker
I hope so
void void
oh rip, apparently you can't put mending and infinity on a bow together, is it possible to reverse this using a plugin?
viral hornet
I mean, you can do it with essentials through the give command
So it would be possible to have a plugin allow both infinity & mending on the same bow.
void void
I mean I don't really wanna have to use essentials.
Is there a plugin that allows you to put mending and infinity on a bow?
potent fossil
Yes. Essentials.
void void
..
potent fossil
Give command or enchant command. Bukkit API can do it too, it's called applying 'unsafe' enchantments. And probably any custom enchant plugin.
limber knotBOT
void void
.tryandsee
lean kiln
/minecraft:give @s bow{Enchantments:[{id:infinity,lvl:1},{id:mending,lvl:1}]} 1
lean kiln
I mean if you can't do it without commands then having such a bow is inherently cheating, no?
if you change mechanics with a plugin i guess not
void void
I mean it's just a different perspective.
potent fossil
Using a plugin is "cheating" in that sense.
You can't do it with vanilla, so why is using essentials cheating but a different plugin not cheating?
void void
Essentials has a bunch of additional features I don't need. You want something for that one purpose, but your also getting a bunch of unneeded features that I don't want.
next wind
void void
🤔
potent fossil
first it's "ess is cheating" then it's "ess is bloated"
dont have time to hold your hand to find a plugin that you're happy with
try googling, we're not machines
good luck
you have our recommendation, if you're not happy then oh well
void void
I appreciate the feedback, not aggressive and addressing some much needed criticism as well. My apologies for being such an ignorant child.
potent fossil
Uh, ok
earnest rampart
bruh
waxen panther
@potent fossil 
potent fossil
@waxen panther 🥺
vast portal
I am wondering. Do I get a new 144hz monitor from dell thats 1080p to replace my old 1440x1100 dell or somethin thats kinda falling apart. Or do I get nice studio headphones (dt 990/770 pro) to replace my $30 amazon gaming ones
potent fossil
which causes you the most daily pain
vast portal
same amount
potent fossil
flip a coin
potent fossil
.wa flip a coin
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) Result: heads - https://is.gd/pl5TKS
vast portal
just whatever you think is more practical
potent fossil
for me headphones are more practical because i wear them all day every day
but if the monitor is unusable, then there you go
vast portal
ok ty
its not unusable its just really bad and has lines across the screen occasionally with different colors
like its the colors that streak across the screen
potent fossil
well if the headphones work well enough then my priority would be the monitor in that case
unreal quarry
so, Cup Noodle showed up in FFXV and I thought to myself, "they're really playing this out like a fucking commercial" turns out it was...
hah
young terrace
decent monitor recommendations? maybe $100 budget but i'm definitely flexible depending on what i like
current monitor is a Pixio PX7 Prime, 27" 1440p 165hz
young terrace
second monitor
vast portal
idk
get like a 1080p 60hz from dell or hp or something
nothin too fancy needed if its a 2nd
young terrace
also @zealous wedge I tried cheesecake, pretty good
also tried calamari, pretty weird
golden gust
limber knotBOT
wutz up fellow gamers
limber knotBOT
ppl here talkin about 144hz monitor
while im here wondering if my graphics card can even do 60 in some games
viral hornet
Trying to think what I want for lunch but now I can't get cheesecake outta my head 😦
potent fossil
cheesecake it is... 
dim shadow
ew cannibalism
viral hornet
uwu
dim shadow
i mean i dont wanna judge but like do u eat bits off each other?
potent fossil
dim shadow
how does the whole thing work like do y'all trade body parts for consumption or what
dim shadow
oh so u dont eat ppl for real then
dim shadow
omg no i didnt assume that
dim shadow
i was thinking more like eating bits idk
heady spear
You can eat my bits uwu
dim shadow
i guess ill try some if its properly cooked
viral hornet
wtf
dim shadow
bro thats animal abuse
viral hornet
Not even
heady spear
When bae is a cannibal 😍
worn pasture
dog is broken
potent fossil
he just an old boi
worn pasture
put it down and get a new one
potent fossil
bruh
dim shadow
rudeeeee
pseudo solstice
while im here wondering if my graphics card can even do 60 in some games
@RoboMWM#0000 I'm here wondering if I can get 60 on minecraft
limber knotBOT
if you're on integrated sure
I know for sure I can't hit 60 in Minecraft with intel hd 3000
young terrace
cheescake is bae
@cosmic raft it's whatever that makes you happy as long as we can agree that calamari is fucking disgusting]
the rubbery texture is so weird
pseudo solstice
Integrated is amazing
45 fps in minecraft
Super speedy
And that's with optifine
nocturne falcon
whoa good calamari shouldnt be rubbery
is should have a bit of bite but should ultimately give pretty easily
sharp sentinel
anyone wanna join voice lol? Just got a new mic and wanna test it
cosmic raft
@sharp sentinel ok
worn pasture
5 minute meetings are never 5 minutes
cosmic raft
@sharp sentinel :D
sharp sentinel
nah my 5 minute meeting was actually 5 minutes 😛
zealous wedge
@cosmic raft there is a dessert restaurant you need to go to here
it's got a wide variety of cheesecake
potent fossil
cheesecake factory?
zealous wedge
nope
potent fossil
f
zealous wedge
a local place
sly ruin
What does cheesecake taste like?
Are there any restaurants where I can get some good cheesecake to try?
potent fossil
any bakery really
void void
hm? on #paper-help
minor badge
@potent fossil awa
potent fossil
uwu
hm? on #paper-help
@void void dont know what you're talking to, that only happens in a DM. i see your message in #paper-help just fine. be patient and wait
void void
yeah I was able to resend
potent fossil
ok
hollow tinsel
he wants that gwak gwak 900 aka the sukler aka the mushroom kingdom aka the 2-millimeter defeater aka that one atom superstratum aka the rock
potent fossil
???
limpid comet
Performing an SSD upgrade on my cousin's MacBook and I have to say
Time Machine really makes this easy
I was worried I'd have to dig through every folder and copy it over to my SSD which would take a while but Time Machine solves that problem for me lol
potent fossil
im fucking dying at this lmao https://youtu.be/KgctBSvjPzM?t=221
"i think we're dead i really do"
potent fossil
lmaoooo this dude is like "we bought a quarter ounce and put it in the brownies, i think we're dead. i think im breathing but im not sure"
as he's talking
vernal moth
Can you actually die to an overdose of weed?
potent fossil
@potent fossil uwu
@minor badge uwu
Can you actually die to an overdose of weed?
@vernal moth no he was just stoned out of his god damn mind
vernal moth
Yeah, was gonna say, I don't think it's possible
potent fossil
i mean its possible that the weed is laced with something, then you're actually ODing on the drug that's laced into it
vernal moth
You might be done for a few hours and laying in some corner but I don't think you can take a lethal Dosis,
potent fossil
but just weed nah
and thats what the dude calling said, "it might've been laced"
so idk
but im pre sure he was just stoned af
vernal moth
Yeah sounded like it
Especially since said it were their first brownies
And that shit hits if you aren't prepared and have no idea how much to put into it
I remember my sister's first brownies 😂
I just ate one and told the others to do the same and chill for a bit, they didn't feel anything at first and eate more 😂
That was a fun rainy Saturday
cosmic raft
hallo
potent fossil
henlo kash bby
cosmic raft
that was a fun night
potent fossil
👀
cosmic raft
why the face
potent fossil
what made this night so fun
cosmic raft
cosmic raft
write more and pr it pls
potent fossil
that sounds like not fun
minor badge
ill document you kash x
potent fossil
minor badge
f
vernal moth
Trying on glasses is hard
worn ember
why?
cedar spade
Because you can't see until you put them on /s
young terrace
anyone wanna join voice lol? Just got a new mic and wanna test it
@sharp sentinel which mic?
I own a Rode NT USB and I'm pretty sure it's the best USB mic worth the money out there
twin lagoon
nt usb mini 
young terrace
never knew that was a thing
cedar spade
USB mini NT
teal egret
All my HTTP APIs return responses encoded with NBT
little endian NBT, to add a bit of cursedness to it
potent fossil
im not sure if i should congratulate you or cry for you
potent fossil
nbt is binary data
it shouldn't be readable unless you're encoding it into some human readable format after the fact
but yea, prismarine js or whatever
teal egret
its a good way to make it more difficult for people to reverse engineer the API, too
maybe I should consider adding some kind of content type randomization
potent fossil
lol
teal egret
so you have 25% chance for json, nbt, yaml or xml
potent fossil
ok but why
teal egret
fun, and confusing people who want to read my code
potent fossil
well, you have fun with that i guess
young terrace
potent fossil
??
mossy vessel
k
potent fossil
is that supposed to be funny? or something
mossy vessel
probably, dunno
vernal moth
hes gay, thats obviously funny
mental meadow
when you read fanfiction that's no surprise
heady spear
so this $50 screen protector bröke after like 2 weeks
heady spear
tempered glass can suck my ass
vernal moth
lmao city
mossy vessel
not only tempered glass
twin lagoon
i never bother w/ screen protectors
heady spear
yeah I just thought I'd be a good owner for once and like protecc
but I don't mind the scratches and they're basically impossible to crack ;3
dropped my xs down two sets of stairs and it was fine uwu
mental meadow
I have a cool plastic one that is self healing
heady spear
uwu uwuwa
twin lagoon
uwu
heady spear
am böred n I don't wanna studÿ D:
cedar spade
oof you got one of the weird optical ones?
potent fossil
awuwa
mental meadow
Yeah Samsung
cedar spade
They're "fun"
mental meadow
Works pretty well for me
heady spear
@mossy vessel I need a new pröject bro dude
mental meadow
@heady spear irongolem
heady spear
nooooo
mental meadow
simpuwu
potent fossil
@heady spear how about u FUCKING IMPLEMENT ARKITEKTONIKA INTO FAWE GOD DAMN IT
heady spear
coreprotecc is better
cedar spade
Mine works around 70% of the time, weirdly seems more reliable with my screen protector than without, just gotta reregister when you apply it
potent fossil
why did i make it for you to ignore it
potent fossil
im never making something for u again bc it just gets ignored
wasted time
f for my time
heady spear
I don't work on FAWE >:(((
cedar spade
Also my hands tend to dry up overnight which makes it not work at all when I first wake up
potent fossil
press F for the time i spent creating that so city could ignore it guys
never getting it back
heady spear
and proxi is more active in p2 dev than I am :3
heady spear
mossy vessel
y ping meh
heady spear
Tell me what to do plz dadi
mossy vessel
fix v6 issues
heady spear
nty
mossy vessel
or help me proofreading
mossy vessel
time for a coffee
heady spear
Nah it’s mc related unfortunately
So ye boring ig
O well
I wanna play with D tho
mossy vessel
heady spear
Meh fuck it, I’ll do this in Java instead lel
next frost
Maybe I‘ll find some time for Arkitektonika and FAWE today, I still need a PR for Hacktoberfest
Because the transform stuff is super weird and I don’t like it
young terrace
Hacktoberfest is that free t-shirt thing, right
I don't think I've ever intentionally participated
a shirt does sound nice, and the concept is good but imo hacktoberfest comes with a lot of shitty tradeoffs
such as participating repos being spammed with minor PRs like "comments" or "indentation"
next frost
Proxi uwu
young terrace
yeah too often
minor badge
maintainers can just mark as spam, close, and manually push their commits though
they weren't really a problem until this year, as they decided to do some heavy marketing
mossy vessel
+10 extra stickers
heady spear
I've only made 10 PRs D:
quasi valley
1 😎
heady spear
pröxi is so active
quasi valley
even to a repo I have write access to
heady spear
I even did this D:
cunning raft
pog pog pogu
heady spear
now am 1 of 192 contributors
very epic
PRing to essentials is fun because you never know whether or not the PR will go stale for 52 years or get merged immediately. It's a gamble :3
cedar spade
true fact
autumn magnet
Anyone here take much freelance work in Minecraft?
heady spear
I’ve never worked once
waxen panther
imagine playing minecraft LOL
limpid comet
@minor badge and in the end, Choco never answered the main question - why shouldn't we use it
limpid comet
Yeah, I never realized how much Spigot is just that: feelings
minor badge
Shane also didn't give credit to Billy <3 where credit is due with his upstream changes 
truly amazing community
mossy vessel
limpid comet
That's very annoying
wide chasm
I think Choco or md said something along the lines of "Bukkit doesn't intend you to ever extend classes, so extending InventoryHolder is API abuse" or something.
looks at extending JavaPlugin and implementing Listener
I'm assuming this is still about InventoryHolder
minor badge
yup
cunning raft
why is he pretending like he made bukkit lmao
how does he know the intention of people from 7 years ago
minor badge
because he's 
cunning raft
real and true
minor badge
really annoying though, it's not really anything that should be an issue...
wide chasm
"Oh, all-knowing md_5, I ask thou, how do I solve this NPE?"
minor badge
it does not harm anyone or anything anywhere at any time; it works great if you're not dumb and implement it correctly (literally "just do it correctly" as he wants us to, but in another way)
limpid comet
Yeah it's the weirdest thing to be a big deal. The fact that he never stated an actual reason against its usage is hilarious to ms
cunning raft
"Oh, all-knowing md_5, I ask thou, how do I solve this NPE?"
you don't, it works as intended
limpid comet
@NotNull
wide chasm
ships code
Thank you
autumn magnet
I created a PayPal account to accept a 50/50 payment from a client, the money says it was sent via email but it's currently on hold. My client said he can only confirm it in 48 hours and that I should start the project now.
Is this safe?
cunning raft
bad place to ask for money advise
limpid comet
Wait til you get the money
twin lagoon
uh
you should be able to confirm it immediately
lol
nor should it be pending in first place, sounds like your paypal account is misconfigured or it's just putting it on hold because of account age
limpid comet
Or location
Sometimes it happens for accounts in smaller countries
But still, don't start until you get the agreed upon half
dim shadow
48 hours for a paypal transfer...? wot
mossy vessel
PayPal likes to put your money on hold if your account matches certain variables
twin lagoon
i've had a transaction take two weeks
waxen panther
PepegaPal
lavish nova
ew, PayPal
minor badge
helo zed
slim nymph
i wanna move to square since paypal has gotten so mean
the not refunding fees shit pisses me off.
minor badge
all my homies use stripe
magic river
All of them either have giant fraud departments and convoluted heuristics that trigger a freeze and review or they get blacklisted by the rest of the network and go out of business
So you aren't escaping all that by leaving PayPal, you're just changing to a different ruleset you still have no way of learning that changes all the time
I used to sit near some of those guys, it's like data modeling crossed with customer service, seemed like an awful job
mental meadow
You're most likely right, but most people I know had some bad experience with PayPal so far, but not with the others. Sure, as usage increase so do bad experiences, but still
magic river
To be fair most things around Minecraft are shady as fuck
Either they look bad or they are bad
And any market that is trying to convince children to use mommy's credit card is going to have a lot of disputes which is going to get your account extra scrutiny
slim nymph
@minor badge oh i actually mant stripe lol
@magic river i just meant if i provide a refund, that my net balance of the transaction is 0, where as paypal puts you negative now.
I rarely get chargebacks, but occasionally do refunds
magic river
Companies flip back and forth on whether they eat the fees for that or you do
slim nymph
well stripe says they dont charge you
magic river
I think Apple only just recently flipped to eating the fees for that?
slim nymph
oh wait damnit they do
magic river
Or Google or Valve, one of the app stores
slim nymph
i misread it
"There are no fees to refund a payment, but Stripe’s fees on the original payment will not be returned in case of a refund."
ok screw stripe
stripe charges "RADAR fees" which charge you even if the customer submitted a bad CC
autumn magnet
So, I sent someone my routing number and account number, they sent me $400 via bank transfer.
Can they see my full name or do anything fraudulent with my info?
slim nymph
erm they can also take money from you with that... so you shouldnt of given that to anyone you dont trust, so if you dont trust them with your name.... thats a big yikes
unreal quarry
It's a Nigerian prince, it's ok
cunning raft
yeah please stop asking for life advise on a minecraft discord
slim nymph
well no, dont stop, not like theres a better place to ask that
more of you should of asked BEFORE giving it
this being minecraft doesnt mean were all children who dont know how to answer jroy
cunning raft
well my point was more, they gave it out which seems like they have no idea what it is
so they are probably young
and should just ask their parents
slim nymph
@autumn magnet im not sure theres anything you can do to protect yourself with that info leaked to an untrusted party, prob need to call bank and discuss
mental meadow
inb4 "please provide a government issued ID or other legal document that contains your age before writing in #general"
slim nymph
yes but you said "dont ask for advice" and that is wrong, they SHOULD
there are plenty of adults here who can answer
unreal quarry
Plenty of trolls here to mess someone up, too
slim nymph
hell ive helped people with business sides of mc servers on here before
sure, but thats anywhere in life, ensure you trust the person your taking advice from
mental meadow
You can always ask for advice, but don't base your decisions on advice from random people on the internet
slim nymph
or look for red flags
twin lagoon
auwowa uwu
mental meadow
michael uwu
slim nymph
yeah well that questions pretty clear, he fucked up 😛
twin lagoon
slim nymph
bank account is worse than a CC, least CC has good fraud prevention. but if someone pulls directly from a checking account, things get a bit hairy
twin lagoon
us bank system 
slim nymph
your protection will vary based on bank
cunning raft
you can also cancel a credit card
slim nymph
they really need deposit only account aliases
unreal quarry
cunning raft
but technically you could publish your routing number on facebook and if anyone used it, it would still be fraudulent
the bank would prob close your account because of burden but still
slim nymph
you mean account number lol
cunning raft
yeah yeah yeah
slim nymph
routing number is a bank address
slim nymph
routing identifies what bank, account identifies who at that bank
cunning raft
ah
slim nymph
everyone at same bank has same routing, but im sure theres some regional differences, like nc BB&T isprob one routing, then CA has its own
or it might be same for literally every state
true canyon
inb4 "please provide a government issued ID or other legal document that contains your age before writing in #general"
Please drink a verification can to continue.
twin lagoon
classic 4chan mountain dew
pseudo solstice
if you had as much money as ur social security number, how much money would you have?
twin lagoon
none because social security numbers don't exist here
pseudo solstice
F
If you had a bank account the same as the one you have now, what would be the number and cvv and name?
twin lagoon
bank accounts don't have cvvs
pseudo solstice
*credit card
slim nymph
neesh you're showing your age ;P
pseudo solstice
yes i am
twin lagoon
yeah i'm predicting 14
twin lagoon
15
cedar spade
12
twin lagoon
close enough
pseudo solstice
you guys aren't as dumb as the taco bell guys
i convinced them that i had to come in to check their credit card machines
twin lagoon
young terrace
were they operating properly
waxen panther
tf is going on in here
cedar spade
yes broc
pseudo solstice
no i hung up b4 they could get their manager
young terrace
none because social security numbers don't exist here
@twin lagoon where the fuck do you live
i thought you were american
waxen panther
it's about average tbf
twin lagoon
no
pseudo solstice
antarctica
twin lagoon
thank fuck i'm not american
twin lagoon
garbage country
wide chasm
America is my favorite comedy show
cedar spade
Social security numbers aren't even meant to be used for identifying people, everyone just decided that it was a good idea to abuse them for convenience and now it's a de facto standard over there
waxen panther
good morning adventure man 
cedar spade
kash truly is an adventurous person
true canyon
We're cool like that
waxen panther
Land of the free!! 🦅 🦅 🇺🇸
cunning raft
driver license and ss card are used as de facto id
cedar spade
meanwhile we sort of ish kinda do maybe debatably
For us, it's drivers license or passport, failing that a birth certificate
waxen panther
we scrapped our traditional National Identity Cards in 2011
we still have identifing numbers though, and driver licenses are used for age verification etc
true canyon
To get on planes we need a national photo ID. Can be passport, or states can offer drivers licenses that are federal in some way (requires additional verification). [USA]
twin lagoon
same thing in EU
waxen panther
our drivers licenses are used for all inland stuff like that, or passports if you're not old enough for a drivers license
waxen panther
me remembering next time i go on holiday in the eu im going to have to join the long queue
waxen panther
magic river
Passports are the super ID in the US
waxen panther
i wish our passports were less ugly
twin lagoon
norwegian passports look amazing
magic river
For some forms of identity verification you're supposed to provide two different "kinds" of identification like birth certificate and photo ID
magic river
Or you can just provide your passport
mighty storm
lol discord crashed when I opened this channel
waxen panther
😳
twin lagoon
and ur SSN 🥺
cedar spade
The UK has National Insurance numbers, they aren't technically ID
The cards were scrapped because they don't really do anything anyway, they just hold your NI number
minor badge
@twin lagoon thats not how they look
limber knotBOT
as if an insurance number would have as much power in the EU as it does in the US lol
mighty storm
Show the credit card number, the 3 numbers on the back, and the expiration month and year 
waxen panther
Show us yours proxi x
magic river
You can get a passport ID card too, although I'm not sure why you'd want one
cedar spade
NI is the UK's equivalent of social security, except it hasn't been abused into an ID system like the US's has
waxen panther
happy traveler
mighty storm
The dude's name is Happy Traveller lmao
twin lagoon
In 2016 it was announced that the introduction of new passports was postponed to the middle of 2018.[7] In August 2019 it was announced that the introduction of new passports was postponed for the seventh time, to October 2020.[8][9
soon proxi
soon
true canyon
Probably should renew that license though, expired in 2018!
mighty storm
Sorry mbax it's expired
minor badge
i hope they dont get rid of the dragons
magic river
My actual passport expired in 2018 iirc
mighty storm
See!
mighty storm
Why do I feel like we've had this exact same if not very similar conversation before with roughly the same people
cedar spade
Probably
magic river
I don't remember being in said conversation
mighty storm
Maybe my memory sucks idk
cedar spade
but yeah, the UK has never had dedicated ID cards
magic river
We've had discussions about the US not having national IDs though so I guess that's close
Never about how cool norway's passports are or why the US passport card exists 😄
twin lagoon
proxi uwu
quasi valley
norge noreg
limber knotBOT
it baffles my mind that in some countries people can not have any kind of identification card lol
quasi valley
norg norg
twin lagoon
borg
magic river
twin lagoon
https://owo.whats-th.is/6eUaTzX.jpg rdr2 looks so good 
ashen cliff
jpg
mental meadow
I think I burned my last passport
mental meadow
Only had some nice visa stamps from Ethiopia
mental meadow
Yeah it wasn't valid anymore (in more than one way) and you either keep stuff like that or destroy it so no one can impersonate you
Wanna visit me kash? :3
I think I'd have to get one from the German embassy if I ever need one now
ashen cliff
INB4 Russian man plays Doom on a US voting machine.
limber knotBOT
that's not even a challenge lol
don't they run windows xp or something like that?
ashen cliff
Correct.
young terrace
why is it not a challenge
ashen cliff
Also tried to sue the security researchers that they paid to security test them.
limber knotBOT
once you have physical access to a voting machine then most aren't really secure
true canyon
Because of how easy they are to get in, Rigby
limber knotBOT
(which is why most countries wont use them 👀 )
young terrace
I’ve never voted but I had assumed the only challenge was making enough time for yourself to install doom and play
i thought they were a get in and get out type of thing
ashen cliff
Bold of you to assume, they enabled safe boot.
left swift
Bold of you to assume the usb port still works
mighty storm
Okay but that seems clickbaity
It's not running on the potato's it's running on the calculator, which is powered by the potato's
Potatoes are powering yes but not running I'd argue
limber knotBOT
that's just because English is Pepega. It's completely fine to say that a machine is "running on fossil fuel"
sage kettle
Anyone know of any good methods for map regeneration respecting protected zones?
young terrace
@twin lagoon look how quick i lost $100
in better news, cheesecake
lost $100 on bab and i had to spend $20 for btc fee
twin lagoon
btc
vernal moth
Mfw crypto bullshit
twin lagoon
you have a gambling problem
young terrace
i accepted that a long time ago
im down $250 today
totally forgot i was supposed to buy a monitor
i depo another 250 😺
unreal quarry
if you dont like money that much, just send it to me. i'll send you back confirmation that you lost
unreal quarry
i should start a business of selling used scratch-off tickets. i'll send you a scratch-off thats already been scratched off and checked to see if it won or not for you
peak dirge
Spoiler: maybe you win $1
astral spoke
I had something rather weird happen on my server just now and I was just wondering if anyone here would know anything about it. So, I'm the owner of my server and somebody executed a server broadcast advertising their youtube channel and claiming the server had been "hacked". I checked the logs and it says that my account executed the broadcast command, but it happened whilst I was logged in to the server on the same account.
How can it be that someone managed to execute a server command as me whilst I was online?
twin lagoon
you didn't protect your bungee server
if you have a vps / dedicated server, you didn't setup a firewall
if you have an offline mode proxy/main server, tough luck
if you have a shared host bungee network, use bungeeguard to prevent this
astral spoke
bungeeguard, alright. I'll look into that. It's all on the same dedi, and the ports to the servers themselves are blocked.
twin lagoon
what's your server ip
astral spoke
I'm not sure I want to say that in a public domain in the middle of a security incident. 😉
twin lagoon
throw it in dms
astral spoke
Thank you for the recommendation of bungeeguard. I imagine that is my problem.
twin lagoon
you shouldn't need bungeeguard or any protection plugin for a dedicated server
astral spoke
Mkay.
twin lagoon
send your server ip in dms
merry talon
grand pewter
lol
unreal quarry
@heady spear ^
heady spear
o lol ye that's useful
I watched one among us asmr video and now that's all my recommendations
waxen panther
hmmm
young terrace
i don't recall that happening a lot @mighty storm
or at all
IJ's vcs stuff is just a fancy wrapper
mighty storm
Every so often it's like "Git doesn't exist???"
go to terminal, type git, works fine
young terrace
git isn't installed?
means you aren't pointing git in the settings to the right path
mighty storm
so then i gotta restart the whole program
cedar spade
When you say "git doesn't exist" do you mean the UI tabs disappear, or...?
mighty storm
i mean when i restart it works fine
young terrace
you should check your settings
mighty storm
I already restarted, but every time i do a git thing it's like "Git executable not found"
restart, all good
young terrace
yeah that means it can't find like, git.exe or whatever you have
young terrace
i like windows
thin barn
Paper, Waterfall? New here been using something different wondering if this works with forge which would i use for a forge server Paper or Waterfall or are they different things entirely? sorry to just bud in
young terrace
different things
mighty storm
Paper is server waterfall is proxi
thin barn
Oh okay cool thanks, So does paper work with forge?
young terrace
no
thin barn
Ah kk
young terrace
there is third party server software that enables both (paper/spigot) plugins and forge mods
cedar spade
Forge is a separate modding platform
mighty storm
dont even mention it now it's on his mind
avoid it all costs
avoid it like it's cmi
or yoaitopia
cedar spade
yoaoieuiotopia
young terrace
what is yoaitopia
mighty storm
the netherite block pfp ass performance one
lean kiln
ew not more yatopia talk
mighty storm
ikr
thin barn
So, This is mostly for vanilla plugin servers? not modded servers then?
lean kiln
Yes.
mighty storm
Paper is yes
lean kiln
if you want plugins with mods, sponge is the best route
void void
yatopia boosted my performance x10!
mighty storm
smh
thin barn
Ah kk ty
lean kiln
anything allowing forge mods to work with bukkit plugins will have lots of bugs
mighty storm
0x10 is still 0 
void void
Tell Ivan that 
mighty storm
nah hes just gonna tell me to remove my streams
waxen panther
omg they reverse patches so well i love them
mighty storm
actually, hes gonna tell me to "nuke my streams"
thin barn
lol
mighty storm
what am I, mixer? smh
cosmic raft
hi camm
twin lagoon
camm 🥺
viral hornet
- Keep things changing, people like to keep busy with stuff to do
- 10 years next year
- Don't really advertise
twin lagoon
camm wtf
viral hornet
- Have Michael as a syspapi
twin lagoon
cosmic raft
Syscraft added to #community-guilds
minor badge
thank u kazhk
cosmic raft
/cc @swift root
minor badge
larry 
warm anchor
What’s the difference between admincraft and syscraft?
I don’t use Reddit much just curious
heady spear
syscraft is an admincraft clone 👀
minor badge
syscraft is admincraft except folks became tired of intelli's behaviour as owner
warm anchor
Oh I see
swift root
kash ily
viral hornet
I dont need a slave city
twin lagoon
well he isn't that notable is he
viral hornet
Hyperverse
heady spear
im gonna copy all of ur plugins
viral hornet
LOL
heady spear
and make a copy of ur survur
heady spear
call it BetterServerThanCammsBadServerWhichIsBadAndSux.xyz
twin lagoon
camm how's auscraft
mossy vessel
City mean cuz nobody loves him so he meanie
heady spear
that is true no one loves me but luckily I do
heady spear
because i am awesome and hot and smart and cool and hot and smart and cool and awesome and no one deserves me sooo
u can all just stick a🥄up ur behinds tbh
mossy vessel
tf
viral hornet
@heady spear you get grumpy when you're sex deprived
@twin lagoon I'll be jealous when its actually out/I can see it
viral hornet
:(
minor badge
@cunning raft 
minor badge
youre my grand master x
minor badge
youre grand to me doe
heady spear
proxi tryna flirt and dum jroy commenting on technical jargon
dis is y all ow players r virgins
fallen oracle
heady spear
been good
viral hornet
😦
heady spear
you haven't been good in ages
fallen oracle
heady spear
in forever actually
fallen oracle
fallen oracle
That's the closest I could find to the MLG emotes
viral hornet
Is it being bad, city?
viral hornet
awesome
heady spear
... is something ur not. You got it. Good job. You're getting better.
dusk drift
viral hornet
yeah the norm
cunning raft
i'd rather them work on ow2 ig
viral hornet
I can't waiiit for that
cunning raft
hopefully
swift root
ow2 or d3 
austere ivy
Wasn’t hyperverse supposed to be the successor to mv? I thought that multiverse had gone defunct
cunning raft
use hyperverse
heady spear
use whatever plugin u want to use lol
cunning raft
don't listen to city he's biased
heady spear
hyperverse is gonna get some decent updates soon tho
lean kiln
yeah city is a big hyperverse hater
heady spear
so
- we were completely rewriting the per-player user data stuff to use safer NBT shit, because people apparently prefer not losing their data between updates. Weird but 🤷♂️
- switching to cloud
- 👀
cunning raft
personally i find "👀" to be quite disagreeable
heady spear
I wanna add more 3rd party API hooks. We're already hooking into essx for safetp, more shit like that would be cool
cunning raft
what are you just using safetp api yourself?
swift root
cunning raft
also pls say ur using AsyncTeleport
heady spear
ofc lol
swift root
soz jroy that sentence
heady spear
swift root
was just
swift root
🤯
cunning raft
then i typed it and had no idea what i event meant
swift root
lmao
cunning raft
i would delete it but irc 💀
swift root
lool
heady spear
so we have shit like this using https://github.com/Sauilitired/cloud/tree/master/cloud-services 😄 Hella over-engineered but it wouldn't be a City project without that
heady spear
Though the idea is bascially that you already have all of these plugins that provide functionality that you're used to, rather than us replacing it, we can just make use of what's already there
ye no that would be dum
cunning raft
not really
if you hooked into our teleport api you'd be able to allow players /back
heady spear
well for us it would, because we have our own teleportation system already
cunning raft
or it may auto detect that actually?
heady spear
I mean, we could add a hook specifically for that 😄
cunning raft
true
heady spear
I wanna get rid of most of the nms shit tho in the 2.0.0 update
or 1.0.0?? dunno if we ever released
we didn't I don't think
cunning raft
do you use reflection or are you using local jars?
heady spear
version dependent modules, so local jars ig
cunning raft
monkaW
heady spear
I kinda wanna remake some of that using cloud-services instead because the guice binding stuff there is a little janky, but o well
haven't even looked at the plugin since barty came in here and freaked out, should prolly get it finished soon tho
worn pasture
If ur name Larry U cute
worn pasture
swift root
okay controversial opinion time: yellow or orange sticky notes?
idk maybe this should go in #politics just lmk
twin lagoon
yellow
heady spear
no, pink.
mental meadow
no u
swift root
pink! good consideration