general

[dim shadow]

kek sounds like it judging from the name

so is there a better alternative to oldcombatmechanics?

[quasi valley]

patching the server

but I guess OCM is the lesser evil to running 1.8

[heady spear]

god vivaldi for mac is so bad

it crashes constantly .-.

[dim shadow]

patching the server
@quasi valley is there a patch thats known to work? i might use that instead

[slim nymph]

"saw a bunch of youtube vids on why 1.8 is more competitive"
Who can click faster competitive

1.9 requires being better at timing attacks and defense, thats more skill oriented

[dim shadow]

some players say 1.9+ pvp is boring

[quasi valley]

this does tool damage, sharpness damage, hit sound, and sweeping. everything else was deemed pointless or too small to change back https://github.com/LuminuNET/LumiPaper/blob/master/patches/server/0007-Old-combat-mechanics.patch

[dim shadow]

i agree with you @slim nymph in principle but tbh i havent pvp'd much in 1.9+

[next wind]

1.9 pvp is much more fun

more strategy

[dim shadow]

i also keep hearing "people just pussy behind shields in 1.9+"

[quasi valley]

disable shields then

[next wind]

then ban shields

shields are op

[wide chasm]

With sword pvp, yeah, but with axe pvp they're fine

[green edge]

1.9 requires being better at timing attacks and defense, thats more skill oriented
It's harder for the players. Mass spamming requires less learning and timing

[next wind]

yeah the average mc pvp player isnt really willing to learn

[dim shadow]

With sword pvp, yeah, but with axe pvp they're fine
@wide chasm i do get a feeling those players just dont wanna bring an axe to the battlefield

[wide chasm]

Their loss then, really. If you want to bypass a shield, an axe is kinda a requirement.

[dim shadow]

i can see their point, it's harder to balance a sword, a bow, AND an axe during a heated battle

[minor badge]

@quasi valley >u<

[quasi valley]

(￣y▽,￣)╭

[wide chasm]

What is that abomination?

[quasi valley]

Windows kaomoji

┗|｀O′|┛

[wide chasm]

Supporting all those characters was a mistake

Use the Latin alphabet or don't use a pc /s

[quasi valley]

I love it

[vernal bone]

Kenny, LumyPaper only has 1.16 versions?

[woven otter]

@quasi valley hello

How are you

[quasi valley]

I am

and you?

[woven otter]

I am

oof

that is sad

not because you are

[next wind]

(❁´◡`❁)

[quasi valley]

@vernal bone latest and an old 1.15.2 branch

[vernal bone]

Thanks!

https://github.com/LuminuNET/BukkitOldCombatMechanics

Is there any way that I can get the jar, without building it?

[mossy vessel]

kneny advertising 👀

[vernal moth]

No you can't

Unless you pay somebody else to build it for you

But like, it's trivial to build

[vernal bone]

https://github.com/processing/processing/wiki/Build-Instructions

This tutorial explains everything in the right way?

[mossy vessel]

ant

[minor badge]

https://github.com/kernitus/BukkitOldCombatMechanics/releases just...

[still cosmos]

It's harder for the players. Mass spamming requires less learning and timing
it's technically more skill-based, but its not as fun as 1.8 pvp

[cunning raft]

Yeah Pressing the button every 1.2 seconds isn't skill lmao

Faster you press is skill

But it's also a block game so who cares

[wide chasm]

Seeing how many people still run a 1.8 server, a lot apparently

[mossy vessel]

Yeah, it's a block game, hence shields

[wide chasm]

lol

[cunning raft]

[still cosmos]

i wonder if you even tried playing 1.8 for more than 10 fights

Yeah Pressing the button every 1.2 seconds isn't skill lmao
that's literally an instant lose

in any version after a hit the entity is invulnerable for 0.5 seconds

[cunning raft]

I don't actually know the timings I don't care

[mossy vessel]

I didn't touch 1.8 for years because... reasons

[cunning raft]

I try not to

[mossy vessel]

There's no reason to :P

[heady spear]

wtf is the difference between the ducke mecha mini and the one 2 mini? <.<

because the mecha mini is sold out everywhere here

and the one 2 mini isn't

[mossy vessel]

Did you ask Mini yet?

[heady spear]

I guess it's just the frame? <.<

@twin lagoon you probably have opinions about this lol

[twin lagoon]

mecha mini is aluminium

[cunning raft]

There's no reason to :P
@mossy vessel essentials 1.8 support

[twin lagoon]

so better build quality

one 2 mini is just plastic

iirc bad seed tech has a review on ducky mecha mini

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78ZGBI0ZCrA

but really, both will do fine

[mossy vessel]

I mean, I contributed to a few plugins supporting 1.8 but I never tested if my changes break something on 1.8 lol

[heady spear]

Right. I don't really have a preference and iirc the one 2 mini is well built as well

[twin lagoon]

yes

just go for the one 2 mini

[heady spear]

I mean it's ducky so it's not shite either way

thanks 😛

[twin lagoon]

only thing i'm not sure about which would be nice

is setting the right shift cluster as arrow keys when tapped on

[mossy vessel]

How about not supporting 1.8 Roy
runs

[twin lagoon]

because that's super nice on a 60% keyboard

[cunning raft]

I think we've discussed that internally

[twin lagoon]

e.g. if you tap on right shift it'll act like an arrow up key

[cunning raft]

But at the end of the day some shitty fork will pop up

Better us handling it

[twin lagoon]

if you hold it or use it in a combination, right shift

[heady spear]

o that sounds pretty neat to have, though not a huge deal as I never find myself using the arrow keys anyway :p

[twin lagoon]

meh you always have fn + wasd

[mossy vessel]

Inbe4 Legacy EssentialsX - Premium Fork - Super fast

[twin lagoon]

60% is epic other than that

i was really questioning myself if i would like it or not

[heady spear]

time to spend $1100 :))) online shopping is fun

[twin lagoon]

and i ended up loving it

my keyboard is $400

[cunning raft]

Yeah that's what we're trying to avoid lmao, but if it becomes too much of a problem to support legacy we'll stop

[heady spear]

I'm getting a secondary monitor. I'm starting to miss having my second one

but gave it to my sister sooo

[twin lagoon]

second monitor is a must

[mossy vessel]

Makes sense

[heady spear]

also replacing my fans, because they're broken

[twin lagoon]

noctua

[heady spear]

and make clicky clocky sounds

[twin lagoon]

i personally wouldn't go for clicky switches

[heady spear]

and getting a new ssd so I can actually use my windows boot 😛

My fans are clicky is what I'm saying

[twin lagoon]

o

[heady spear]

which is an issue 😛

don't think they're meant to sound like that 👀

Plus the RGB stopped working so I can't have raves anymore

And ye I'm getting browns. I'm using my blues rn and like

it's annoying

I think voice chat would agree

[next wind]

browns are so hard for me to use

blues are nice, although i wish there was a non obnoxious alternative

[heady spear]

I mean that'd be browns 👀

[twin lagoon]

linear

[next wind]

browns dont have the click though

browns are squishy

[twin lagoon]

browns are squishy tactiles

[next wind]

they feel like nicer membranes

[twin lagoon]

you'd probably just want a tactile switch

a proper one

[next wind]

they arent tactile at all

any reccomendations?

[twin lagoon]

but those are like impossible to find for normal keyboards

you'd basically need a barebone keyboard like GMMK

and order your own switches

[next wind]

what switches?

kali greens or whatever?

[twin lagoon]

idk where my tactile switch tester is lmao

probably zealios

[mossy vessel]

Oh man, City

[heady spear]

what

[ancient bolt]

mfw I have 3 daskeyboards

[mossy vessel]

Stop spending so much money, you gonna starve at the end of the month

[heady spear]

Well I got all of the uni money they've been withholding for no reason 🙂

[mossy vessel]

o

[heady spear]

I've also worked 40h per week since uni started

and then there's the plotsquared money

I'm no longer poor and on the brink of homelessness

[ancient bolt]

plot squared money

[heady spear]

I will however still beg all our users for donations

[next wind]

https://zealpc.net/products/zealio @twin lagoon these with o rings maybe?

[twin lagoon]

oh fuck orings

[mossy vessel]

You're good nw

[twin lagoon]

they just make your shit more squishy

lol

[heady spear]

PlotSquared is the second fastest selling plugin on Spigot 🙂

[next wind]

alright

[heady spear]

PlotSquared money is a real thing

[twin lagoon]

@next wind you could just buy a tactile switch tester on kbdfans

[ancient bolt]

mfw people actually buy plugins

[twin lagoon]

comes from china so it'll take half a century

but it's like $15 - $20

[next wind]

ill check it out, thanks

[heady spear]

they buy support to be fair

the plugin is impossible to use, so they pay us to copy paste stuff from the wiki into discord

[wide chasm]

lol

[mossy vessel]

me

[heady spear]

the other bunch that are able to read would just clone it from github

[ancient bolt]

so i should make an easier to use FOSS version to out price you just for shits and giggles is what you're saying

[novel horizon]

Is there any use of Illegal Stack Remover on Paper ? 🤔

[next wind]

not really

[mossy vessel]

Paper backs you up there, regarding the dupes

[novel horizon]

I think so, there's just some few things that may be.. nice, but nothing useful kinda

Yeah

On their site.. what's even firework exploit.. 😄

[mossy vessel]

Exploiting fireworks

simple, no?

[novel horizon]

How though, how can you exploit firework

"Silk Touch Exploit"

what kind of things is that even

[mossy vessel]

Depends how you treat the term "exploit".

[novel horizon]

How they treat it

Well, doesn't matter that much, was just curious )

Most major bugs are fixed on Paper, so

[next wind]

most?

[novel horizon]

I say most, because I don't have any proof that there's not a single bug that isn't existing now 😄

Maybe just people don't know about it 🤷

[mossy vessel]

I'm not sure if illegalstack fixes something that is not fixed in paper, but I kinda doubt that

[novel horizon]

Yeah

[mossy vessel]

They also add a few other things on top

[novel horizon]

Yeah

Some people are even crying

Why are you using paper this doesn't work and that oh piglin dupe doesn't work etc (when it was not fixed by Mojang)

[limber knot]

@novel horizon [Auto] The duplication bug with baby Piglins that is currently doing its rounds on YouTube does not, and never has, worked on Paper.

[lean kiln]

I have a real exploit fixer plugin

it patches infinite raid farms

[novel horizon]

Thanks, Korobi 👀

[lean kiln]

:P

[novel horizon]

That is kinda meh, but still

[next wind]

i like infinite raid farms

theyre like iron farms

[novel horizon]

You can build a lot of farms and have really a lot of items, so

[lean kiln]

its my least popular plugin so

[next wind]

i mean both are kind of exploits, but theyre not really

[lean kiln]

I think ppl might agree with you

[novel horizon]

You'd need to ban everything though, but I play on my server too, so I want to play with few things too

Well, you could say even mob farms are kinda exploiting the game mechanics too, like a lot of other things 🤷

But I like it also

[lean kiln]

the amount of emeralds and stuff is kind of stupid tho tbh

its way more op than iron farms

[novel horizon]

Well

[lean kiln]

makes them useless real quick

[next wind]

thats not even a good way to get emeralds

[novel horizon]

What I think is REALLY stupid is the way that you can heal villagers and gain cheaper prices

[lean kiln]

ya theres trading exploits too

[next wind]

yeah healing villagers is much better

[novel horizon]

like what the hell? few emeralds for a whole diamond set with enchants? hello?

[lean kiln]

purpur has a patch for healing villagers

[novel horizon]

I just disabled the chance for that, so

[lean kiln]

resets their reputation on each heal

[novel horizon]

I like it if you play alone, sure, do it

But on a economy server and such

[next wind]

dont use emeralds for economy then

same with diamonds

[novel horizon]

You don't use it

But if people have farms with armors and items for literally 1 emerald..

And they can sell it to people then

That's what i mean

It's just weird.. I mean, sure "we will reward people who heal the villagers" but.. why don't you just code it like it's only once or something? 🤔

And also the effects from defeating raids

[lean kiln]

thats what purpur does basically, each time you heal them it resets their reputation so it's as if you healed them the first time

instead of stacking discounts

[warm anchor]

MC is largely designed for small scale group of fiends to play with so I don’t think a lot of this is being considered so long game is fun

[lean kiln]

the hero of the village stuff is also not as op when you put a cooldown on raids

[novel horizon]

Yeah, sure, there's a lot of "fixes" for that, still though

Kinda, Eternity :/

[lean kiln]

yeah I agree the game should be better to start

[novel horizon]

You should always consider both sides, because it's not like before 10 years or something, everywhere is a lot of players on big servers, even from Mojang itself there can be a lot of players on their "Realms"

But there's also a lot of things they're "fixing", but they're just small exploits or things that doesn't matter that much

[mighty storm]

GUYS

🏳️‍⚧️

we did it

[novel horizon]

😮

[wide chasm]

Wasn't that already an emoji?

[slim nymph]

i still need to update discord lol

[novel horizon]

Yeah

[twin lagoon]

i don't have it yet

kek

[novel horizon]

Same

[mighty storm]

Ctrl+R

[slim nymph]

updated and still no good

[mighty storm]

might just be canary

[novel horizon]

Well Discord 🤷

[golden gust]

Yea, not here either

[novel horizon]

Maybe it's just chew

😄

[mighty storm]

\🏳️‍⚧️

[golden gust]

probs just canary as already said, they gotta push that out

[mighty storm]

yeah I did the raw code for that

[green turret]

Is that a flag and a female symbol with a winged bucket on its head?

[left swift]

I see it on mobile

[golden gust]

it's a flag and then the trans symbol or something iirc

[lean kiln]

i see it

[golden gust]

typical utf8 horrors

[wide chasm]

Didn't we already have the combined male and female symbol?

[mighty storm]

yes

thats been around since 2005

[novel horizon]

looks like blocky eyes kinda 👀

[wide chasm]

Is there a reason then why this new symbol is here?

[green turret]

Aikar's screenshot looks like it's a bucket

[novel horizon]

lol that symbol

I don't have that too

[mighty storm]

what are we but females wearing buckets

[green turret]

Bukkits!

[novel horizon]

For me too 🤷

[golden gust]

surprises

wait

[wide chasm]

phoenix told me Bukkit is dead though

[mighty storm]

whats Bukkit?

[left swift]

Bukkit is back this is a sign

[wide chasm]

Grand revival for 1.17?

Just need to catch up with 9 versions, but whatever

[minor badge]

@mighty storm uwu

[zealous knot]

wait

the trans flag is a default emoji now?

[mighty storm]

i will uwu this ONE time because this is an uwu moment

[zealous knot]

i don't have it

[slim nymph]

i restarted and still broke

[mighty storm]

latest canary i believe

[slim nymph]

is it canary only?

oh

[zealous knot]

oh canary

[mighty storm]

let me try on ptb

[twin lagoon]

i'm on canary aswell

🏳️‍⚧️

o

got it

ok that's epic

[mighty storm]

Yep, just canary

[green turret]

It also works on parrot

[zealous knot]

rip

[novel horizon]

I restarted Discord, it updated.. and nothing

[twin lagoon]

yay for trans rights

[golden gust]

I almost went full sarcasm, but, I realised I dropped the L out of flag while typing it

[twin lagoon]

L

[zealous knot]

zzzcat moment

[mighty storm]

uh oh

[novel horizon]

🏳️‍🌈 for now i will just spam this 🤷

[mighty storm]

darn

I think they changed image upload thingy too

[zealous knot]

what image upload thingy

also what is this repo

[mighty storm]

you know, when you, upload an image

[zealous knot]

since when is discord open source

bruh

[twin lagoon]

oh

they did

shows the image itself now

[mighty storm]

it's not

[twin lagoon]

https://owo.whats-th.is/6tnoGa6.png

[mighty storm]

and the file name (which you can't change? why not)

[novel horizon]

[zealous knot]

lol that emote

[novel horizon]

What kind of thing is that.. what's weird about that?

Is the image.. out of the box? 🤔

[limber knot]

seems kinda familiar https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/8uu8NUnZ/image.png

[zealous knot]

yeah that image preview looks kind of brug

[wide chasm]

Why is the image preview not centered?

[novel horizon]

Doesn't show like that to me

[twin lagoon]

canary

[mighty storm]

canary

[zealous knot]

it's in canary shadow ffs

[novel horizon]

chill ❤️

[mighty storm]

discord should be open source tbh, maybe then people will at least try to make it a good platform

[novel horizon]

I love Discord and hate Discord

[mighty storm]

Now that I'm actually using slack, DIscord just feels like everything stolen from it but done worse

[zealous knot]

so kind of like rocket.chat

[golden gust]

easier said than done in the commercial world

[zealous knot]

i mean rocket.chat is open source and it's kinda garbage

[left swift]

Discord is the best ever haha

blinks twice

[zealous knot]

haha

[mighty storm]

I mean they could easily open source the client, it kinda already is, theyre under no obligation to open source the API or how the backend works and all that, which is where a bulk of the functionality comes from

[golden gust]

In order to develop a product, you need devs, devs cost money; So, you need investors, who generally don't like the idea of "oh, the code is published on the internet so anybody can create their own servers, meaning they won't need to use our platform" "Wait... you mean... the platform you earn cash from in order to pay us back?"

[zealous knot]

Yeah chew i agree

i think that's a really good idea actually

but i don't think we can expect that from discord anytime soon, because they're such conceded bastards

[mighty storm]

You would have to reverse engineer the entire backend to get it anywhere near functional, websocket, voice, everything

[golden gust]

discord is nothing special

[zealous knot]

stfu

[upper flicker]

cat is a hater

[mighty storm]

catter the hatter

[golden gust]

They don't even use their own voice servers

[zealous knot]

discord is my home

DISCORD IS MY HOME

[mighty storm]

welcome to my house

[ancient bolt]

discord is bad

[zealous knot]

I LIVE IN THE GARBAGE

[ancient bolt]

slack is bad

[novel horizon]

life is bad

[ancient bolt]

microsoft skype for teams is god tier

[zealous knot]

skype

[novel horizon]

[mighty storm]

mfw 14.2 still doesnt have new emojis

skype's pretty good ngl

[ancient bolt]

mfw non-ironic

[mighty storm]

free animated emoji? like let's fuckin go

[novel horizon]

Maybe now it's better, I don't like the UI kinda, but the features some time ago, ugh

[golden gust]

skype was good

and then MS got their hands on it...

[novel horizon]

You wanna call with more people? heheheh just buy this little thing 👀

[left swift]

I still have nightmares about the old skype call sound

[zealous knot]

M$ ruined everything that used to be good

[golden gust]

They stripped out like 90% of the moderation features in favour of their new fancy chat system

[zealous knot]

expect minecraft it was always shit

[mighty storm]

ohh yeah

i remember the permissions and slash commands

had to type some secret command to get that

[zealous knot]

/kill zzzcat

[green turret]

Okay I think we need to stop using garbage as a negative word.

[golden gust]

the new chat system? linux user?

[left swift]

Pr to the paper guidelines

No more g word

[zealous knot]

[golden gust]

I remember when they released that new system, you had to find some mystical command to get the protocol to work

[mighty storm]

yeah

[left swift]

Wow I had the hardest time trying to figure out what that emoji was

I thought it was someone pointing a gun at a black hole for awhile

Then I thought it was a frying pan

[mighty storm]

black holes arent black

[novel horizon]

well

nothing is black kinda 👀

[mighty storm]

say what you want about skype

but at least bots can talk to you privately in chat

like clyde does

[left swift]

I miss being told I was wanted

[zealous knot]

Apparently you can actually store digital data on the surface of a black hole, and because of it's massive surface area, for all intents and purposes, the storage space is practically unlimited

well

except for when you need to store those pictures of yo mama

[left swift]

[zealous knot]

[mighty storm]

regional_indicator_simp lmao

how long does discord cache last geez

my github webhooks still show my avatar from a month ago

[novel horizon]

I like when people cheat or use something and they just say no way, I never used that thing or so, sounds so nice

"here's proof you did" uhm no I did not really etc..

"You did that"
"No, I did not"
"Oh, okay sorry, have a nice day"
❓ ❓

[left swift]

Then u say to unban its 5$

[zealous knot]

haha so true

[novel horizon]

Unban for money 🤮

[mighty storm]

no no

pay to appeal , but can still be denied

[novel horizon]

smart, hah

[void void]

Anyone knows how’s this pack called?

[grand pewter]

Is that you or someone else

[mighty storm]

going to assume someone else

[novel horizon]

What pack? Resource pack?

[mighty storm]

also hi pop

[novel horizon]

Is Purpur a good fork of Paper? 🤔

[grand pewter]

Hi chewsterchew

[mighty storm]

whos that

[vernal bone]

Is Purpur a good fork of Paper?
Check their github ☝️

[novel horizon]

I'm doing that right now

[mighty storm]

is purpur paper

[twin lagoon]

i have not made such bad life decisions in a long time

holy fuck

korean cheesy spicy noodles

[novel horizon]

I'm curious if it's a good thing to have, but I feel like it's not that necessary, or at least it seems 🤔

damn

[twin lagoon]

solrflare edited by lw @void void

[void void]

huh

Cool

Version?

[twin lagoon]

1.8

[mighty storm]

ew

ew

[void void]

ew

[zealous knot]

ew

[void void]

ew

[zealous knot]

imagine

ew

[void void]

why ew lmao

[zealous knot]

fuck this

[mighty storm]

because 1.8 not 1.16

[novel horizon]

1.8

[slim nymph]

@twin lagoon whys that a bad decision

[twin lagoon]

koreans do not fuck around with spicy

[novel horizon]

Spicy might mean different things for people

[slim nymph]

on scale of 1 to 10, which is it, and hot or thai hot?

thai hot is the modifier to the number 😛

[twin lagoon]

depends on how hot your thai food is

[novel horizon]

Looking at the Purpur now, in the changes, but except a small changes like nerfing raid farms, nothing seems that great for me 🤔

[twin lagoon]

it's a solid almost crying experience

it's like an 8

still edible if you take your time

[slim nymph]

thai or non thai

8 thai is worse than 8 hot 😛

[twin lagoon]

non thai

[vernal bone]

Looking at the Purpur now, in the changes, but except a small changes like nerfing raid farms, nothing seems that great for me 🤔
Please join their discord, and we can take this convertasion futher.

[slim nymph]

yeah i did an 8 or was it even 10 on a mongolian place, im a spice fiend but that was too much

[novel horizon]

I was asking there already, just chatting here ^^ np

I wouldn't eat an 8/10

I like only a little bit hot/spicy food

[slim nymph]

i use ghost pepper hot sauce

[twin lagoon]

i am half thai

i'm not a huge fan of spicy food

[slim nymph]

i once put foil over top because the cap broke. it ate the foil.

[twin lagoon]

[slim nymph]

that shit dangerous, you better not go near eyes if its touched hands without serious scrubbing

now i want some

[mighty storm]

busy month

[slim nymph]

im cooking salmon for dinner, ghost pepper salmon?!

[twin lagoon]

i don't understand the craze behind adding shit to food to ake it spicy

[slim nymph]

fuck i gotta take out beef for tomorrow. might do wendys for lunch

i like spice flavor, and its good for metabolism

capsicain (sp) gets metabolism boost

am down 22~lb's

[mighty storm]

why is java male

[slim nymph]

i wanna try to maintain my will power and stay keto even for maintenance and just only do cheat weekends or something. CKD w/o the workouts

start a riot chew

[mighty storm]

it's from the kotlin plugin, what do you expect :p

[slim nymph]

oh its kotlin

kotlin obviously is mysogonists

[ancient bolt]

kotlin is male because it hasn't ironed that out yet

[worn ember]

are you saying being male is a mistake?

[slim nymph]

wtf is your avatar demon

[mighty storm]

and with that. imust shower brb

https://chew.pw/discord/avatar/172586171057176576?size=2048

[ancient bolt]

are you unable to tell

[mighty storm]

it's cute thats what

[slim nymph]

oh lol, no i couldnt by small icon

[worn ember]

its a ball of fur

[ancient bolt]

Murphy (the gray cat) is on my lap right now

[slim nymph]

shadow (black cats) beside me on arm best butt up against me

[mighty storm]

Yeah cats are cute and all

[onyx crater]

Hi

I have a question

[mighty storm]

Do you?

[onyx crater]

Yes

The question is Why 2b2t Stopped using paper and Second question How to add Plugins

[ancient bolt]

those are 2 questions

[novel horizon]

👀

[onyx crater]

Yup

I wanna know

[worn ember]

smh can java add unsigned primitives already

[vernal bone]

How would we know why does 2b2t does something?

[twin lagoon]

ask 2b2t

[vernal bone]

^

[twin lagoon]

we're not associated with 2b2t in any way

[ancient bolt]

how to add a plugin: https://bukkit.gamepedia.com/Installing_Plugins

[vernal bone]

2b2paper

[onyx crater]

well 2b2t used to use Paper

[twin lagoon]

we aren't associated with 2b2t

we have no insight with 2b2t

99% of us do not care about 2b2t in any way possible

[worn ember]

most likely cuz it changes vanilla behavior

[onyx crater]

What is 2b2tpapee

Paper

[worn ember]

a joke

[vernal bone]

A joke

[ancient bolt]

A joke

[onyx crater]

Oh

But How to make a server with Paper

[novel horizon]

That's really hard to use

[onyx crater]

And does Paper use Spigot?

[vernal bone]

The world joke sounds so bad in my naive leangue, something like "dzsoke"

[twin lagoon]

paper is based off of spigot yes

you create a paper server just like any other server, except with paper as jar

[vernal bone]

For yt tutorials, check thebreakdown, he usually explains everything.

[worn ember]

only fans plugins for minecraft wen

[slim nymph]

2b will still effectively be using paper, just a fork with fixes and improvements for 1.12

they use to use raw paper (i know because i worked with the owner to get some issues fixed), but we dont support 1.12 anymore and they are still on 1.12 as far as i know

[vernal bone]

1.12 tuinity when

[slim nymph]

i think leaf is/was the one helping them maintain 1.12 lol

[vernal bone]

Really?

[slim nymph]

i didnt do any work directly for 2b, just worked with him to identify the exploits the players were doing to get them fixed in paper directly

he sent me player data files and such

[vernal bone]

2b was a good test for testing the newest 1.12 builds with high playercounts back than right?

[latent valve]

Aikar is hause confirmed

[vernal bone]

Aikar is hause confirmed
I could see that

[twin lagoon]

i am crying

these noodles got me at the end

had like a spoonful of flavoured spicy water

[latent valve]

Tasty

[slim nymph]

making my mouth water

[twin lagoon]

honestly aikar

they were tasty as fuck

https://www.amazon.com/Samyang-CHEESE-SPICY-Chicken-Noodles/dp/B01M03T7SC

[slim nymph]

maybe ill make some butter coconut oil ghost pepper sauce to cook the salmon in

[latent valve]

Oo that one that one isnt that tadty imo

[twin lagoon]

i don't think i'd call it extremely spicy, except when you get to the water part

[zealous knot]

Oh iv'e had these too

i wasn't a fan tbh

[twin lagoon]

they were alright

you don't taste the cheese at all

but the flavour was alright

[zealous knot]

besides the spice it really didn't have anything else going for them

[twin lagoon]

oh i liked the taste lmao

[latent valve]

How much water did u add mirchael??

Lol

[zealous knot]

its just like eating noodles in hot water

[vernal bone]

wOrLDwidE ShIPPInG

[twin lagoon]

don't think there was that much water in it

[zealous knot]

yeah amazon fucking sucks tbh

[twin lagoon]

they recommended 8 spoonfuls

i probably did like 6

[slim nymph]

why are these "all over youtube"

[twin lagoon]

i just eyeballed it so

[minor badge]

@twin lagoon uwu

[slim nymph]

one comment says

[twin lagoon]

@slim nymph because SPICY CHALLENGE

[latent valve]

If it 'cheese' i like this one better that one doesnt taste much

[twin lagoon]

@minor badge uwu

[left swift]

Amazon is just too small of an indie company to support worldwide shipping

[mossy vessel]

tf

That looks super delicious

[slim nymph]

those arent sold by amazon

[latent valve]

Michael try these ;)

[zealous knot]

wait so is this a Cantonese product or a south korean one wtf

[twin lagoon]

south korean

[zealous knot]

The dialect on the packaging is cantonese

[vernal bone]

Mixed 🤔

[twin lagoon]

er, samyang is korean

ghost pepper one idk

fuck trying that

[slim nymph]

does it list the scoville units anywhere

[twin lagoon]

get that shit out of my face within a 5 mile radius

[zealous knot]

bruh moment

[twin lagoon]

looks like literal shit

probably how it looks like when it gets out of me

[slim nymph]

ghost peppers nice in that its not a chemicalburn, it has nice flavor

you just sweat up a fucking storm

[zealous knot]

scoville units are a shit way to measure spiciness

[slim nymph]

back of your neck sweating

[latent valve]

I try that multiple time wasnt that spicy

[slim nymph]

why mister? not like theres a better unit

[zealous knot]

because it's subjective as fuck

there's people who consider bell peppers spicy

[slim nymph]

The Scoville scale is a measurement of the pungency (spiciness or "heat") of chili peppers, as recorded in Scoville Heat Units (SHU), based on the concentration of capsaicinoids, among which capsaicin is the predominant component.

[zealous knot]

so to them 150 CVU is a lot

[slim nymph]

doesnt sound subjective to me

[zealous knot]

yeah actually that was a shit example

fuck me

[slim nymph]

well spice tolerance is a different beast than comparing 2 spicy products

spice tolerance is your balance of how much spice you can take

[zealous knot]

i guess it's fair enough for direct comparisons, other than that i copmletley ignore it

to me it's absolutely meaningless

[slim nymph]

if you know you can handle 200k, but not 400k, dont eat a 500k item

[zealous knot]

see that's not true

at least not for me

i wanted to kill myself at 300k but was totally fine at 400k

[novel horizon]

was it really 400k then?

[slim nymph]

thats probably a difference in delivery. like i dont like cholua. its got other shit i guess that makes it a chemical burn?

how much it lingers in mouth too

[zealous knot]

i dunno, im not even a fan of eating spicy shit competitively, i just had a chance to try some on several occasions

[slim nymph]

ghost pepper sauce mixes well and isnt "bathed" in it

if you too a drop fo that shit direct oh boy

you can feel the burn in your nose breathing it in

[vernal bone]

Pepper is extramely powerful if used whisely 👍

[zealous knot]

i thought you said paper for a second

[worn ember]

Anything spicier than a chicken wing kills me

[slim nymph]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pepper_X

a chicken wing doesnt have spice

you add a choice of spice to a chicken wing

[worn ember]

yes, the no spice option

[novel horizon]

Damn for some reason I needed now to use --absolute-names for tar some files 🤔 not before, weird

[zealous knot]

https://shx.gg/DmmyJV.png

@worn ember

[worn ember]

[slim nymph]

ive not had reaper sauce yet. ive had reaper jerky but i found it less spicy than ghost pepper jerky

theres some ghost pepper jerky from the Beef Jerky Outlet man, that shit has punch

[zealous knot]

You wanna try my pp? it's kinda jerky

[quasi valley]

[worn ember]

[vernal bone]

Have you tryed "Rose Pepper"?

[slim nymph]

"In April 2018, a case report of "thunderclap headaches" in a 34-year-old man – who was hospitalized a few days after consuming one Carolina Reaper pepper of unspecified size in a contest – included a presumptive diagnosis of reversible cerebral vasoconstriction syndrome (RCVS).[12][13] With no reason to believe pepper compounds had a role in the mechanism of RCVS, other clinical interpretations, such as a stress response from eating such a hot pepper, may explain the headaches.[14]"

damn lol

[zealous knot]

dude

that's nothing

someone who i know had a relative die because they sneezed really hard

i'm not even kidding

homie literally died from sneezing

[worn ember]

lmfao wtf

probably sneezed his brains out

[quasi valley]

[slim nymph]

" and is named 'Reaper' due to the shape of its tail. It has been described as having a fruity taste, with the initial bite being sweet and then immediately turning to "molten lava".[8][9]"

LOL

[worn ember]

how would they know what molten lava tastes like

and isnt lava molten anyway

smh

bad article

[zealous knot]

well there's solid lava

[worn ember]

doesnt that have a different name?

[zealous knot]

basalt, obsidian etc

[worn ember]

basalt looks kinda nice

i want my floor out of basalt

[zealous knot]

wait till they start selling shit they retrieved from mars from various missions

make a floor out of that

[worn ember]

havent seen anything i want my floor out of on mars tho

[cosmic raft]

https://shx.gg/DmmyJV.png
that makes me think of this:

[green turret]

Just don't make the floor out of whatever they made the floors out of in my apartment complex. It's shit. I can hear everything my upstairs neighbor does.

[zealous knot]

Bro

our upstairs neingbors are raising some alien child

he somehow looks like he's both 55 and 3 at the same time

and for some reason the fucker absolutely loves to drag furniture across the floor, all day long

i don't even fucking understand how he does that

and it souds like heavy shit too

and it just never stops

all you hear all day is just dragging

[slim nymph]

is that bread

looks even more cancer than normal white bread

[zealous knot]

i'm worried that at some point that fucker will just wear out the floor and they will come crashing down into our goddamn apartment

[slim nymph]

if your gonna eat bread, please dont eat white bread ._.

[cosmic raft]

yes aikar

it is bread

[mighty storm]

but white

[slim nymph]

white bread sucks out any potential nutrition and just leaves you with nothing but bad

[worn ember]

@slim nymph its toast bread

[zealous knot]

yes but it tastes good uwu

[slim nymph]

use wheat bread

[zealous knot]

hell no

[worn ember]

no u

[zealous knot]

iv'e been eating that garbage for so long i can't look at it without getting sick

[worn ember]

weed loaf

[slim nymph]

even weed bread would be better than white

[zealous knot]

yeah i don't mind me some weed bread

[worn ember]

ive been eating bread for like 18 years and i'm so sick and tired of it

[waxen panther]

Wheat bread is yuck

Who cares about nutrients

I’m a GAMER

[zealous knot]

see this guy gets it

[worn ember]

i just dont eat in the morning so i dont need to eat bread smh

[upper flicker]

white bread is gross

[zealous knot]

yeah i can't eat in the morning lmao

[waxen panther]

ur gross

[zealous knot]

my body just refuses food

[worn ember]

i used to be able to, now i just get nauseous when i try to eat

[waxen panther]

I have breakfast just before I go to bed

[zealous knot]

yeah same drek

[slim nymph]

with keto and IF its easier to skip breakfast since you might still be full from yesterday lol

im getting around 14-16 hours of fasting

[worn ember]

i just eat at 4am or some shit

[zealous knot]

i do get hungry if i wake up super fucking early in the morning though

[worn ember]

no need for breakfast then

[cosmic raft]

sourdough bread though

[zealous knot]

it's acceptable

not more than that

[twin lagoon]

hewwo kashike

[upper flicker]

it's not tacos, that's for sure

[slim nymph]

had 3 burger patties mixed with aged cheddar and bacon buts and a big bowl of broccoli for lunch, salmon, avocado and maybe duck eggs will be dinner

[waxen panther]

broccoli

[worn ember]

🦆 🥚

[zealous knot]

@woven otter

[upper flicker]

🦆 🍲

[zealous knot]

they are EATING your SPECIES

as they should tbh

[slim nymph]

duck eggs have bigger yolks, i need to try em scrambled didnt notice much flavor difference but wife said she didnt like em as a kid

[zealous knot]

even though i peronally find any eggs fucking disgusting

[waxen panther]

i love egg

nice bagel and fried egg

mmm

[zealous knot]

they're good for throwing at people

[worn ember]

occasionally is fine, but i wouldnt eat it every day

[upper flicker]

they're eating egg82

[slim nymph]

but duck eggs too expensive to maintain those man

[zealous knot]

and HowToBasic

[slim nymph]

its like 80cents an egg

[zealous knot]

those are 80 cents you could donate to pokimane's stream :o

[worn ember]

damn i should sell my duck eggs

[slim nymph]

i need to eat more eggs

[zealous knot]

weird flex but ok

[slim nymph]

how is that a flex

[zealous knot]

it's a meme you boomer

[slim nymph]

i'm a moomer thank you

[quasi valley]

what’s a moomer 😂

[slim nymph]

millinial

most of yall are zoomers 😛

[zealous knot]

damn why do we not have another member who's also fucked in the head and pretends he's a cow

[slim nymph]

do we have another generation title yet

arent we hitting point of a new one?

[nocturne falcon]

i think so

[quasi valley]

it will surely have an awesome new title

[worn ember]

billenials kappa cuz they cant even pay their bills

[zealous knot]

wait so millenials are people who were born in the late 90's to 2000's?

[slim nymph]

80's to 90's

[quasi valley]

dang millenials

[worn ember]

isnt that genz?

and millenials past 2000?

[slim nymph]

X ends around the start of the 80's

[zealous knot]

oh i'm a millenial too

[nocturne falcon]

gen z is like 1995-2005

[slim nymph]

no.... Z came after millenials

[nocturne falcon]

maybe 2010

[worn ember]

wat

no

[slim nymph]

yes lol, look it up

[zealous knot]

bro

just tell me if im a millenial or not

[slim nymph]

how old are you

[zealous knot]

23

[quasi valley]

fix you’re a baby

[zealous knot]

stfu stfu

[slim nymph]

you might be around end of Milli

[nocturne falcon]

1995-2000 is like the overlap zone

[slim nymph]

Researchers and popular media use the mid-to-late 1990s as starting birth years and the early 2010s as ending birth years.

for Z

[zealous knot]

well i was born march of 97'

[slim nymph]

so you are a zoomer

[zealous knot]

bruh

[slim nymph]

so we do have "alpha" now

great, the brattiness of modern kids are now gonna play on alpha as an elitism thing

[quasi valley]

oh heh, never heard the alpha term

[nocturne falcon]

im sure there will be a "zoomer" esque nick name soon enough

[zealous knot]

alpher

[quasi valley]

dang gen alpha

[slim nymph]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_Alpha

[zealous knot]

bro gen alpha are not allowed to use discord yet

not that i'd imagine they would figure it out anyway

[worn ember]

frick im a zoomer

[nocturne falcon]

probably a good thing

[zealous knot]

i think discord should raise the minimum age to 18 tbh

[waxen panther]

agreed

with passport checks

[worn ember]

21+

[slim nymph]

"Lost generation" man thats cold lol

[worn ember]

[quasi valley]

losing its core audience

[zealous knot]

LOL

[quasi valley]

like ded, he’s like 3

[zealous knot]

no ded is a turbo boomer, he's like 32 IIRC

[worn ember]

then you'd be 33 u dum fuk

[zealous knot]

are you not older than me?

[slim nymph]

my parents weren't even boomers

[worn ember]

im 22 lol

[zealous knot]

bruh

[worn ember]

we've been over this like 7 times now

[quasi valley]

“lucky few” where does that come from oO

[zealous knot]

yeah i have osteoperosis

[slim nymph]

the lucky few still alive kenny >_>

[worn ember]

ah yes oysters

[slim nymph]

since "Lost generation" is all dead now lol

[zealous knot]

kim il sung

[worn ember]

[quasi valley]

but like, being born into/around times of war doesn’t sound fun

[worn ember]

👏 ur so smart kenny

[quasi valley]

thanks ded, hearing that from you means a lot to me

[zealous knot]

not as bad a serving in the army in times of war

[quasi valley]

I guess thats true lol

[slim nymph]

oh man, imagine if yalls kappa meme is still around for the kappa generation

[zealous knot]

You just made me hate it

thanks mate

[slim nymph]

well all be dead by then dont worry

well some of you might be old

[quasi valley]

[green turret]

I prefer the term "fine age"

Thank you very much!

[left swift]

What about boomer

[zealous knot]

You're welcome

[slim nymph]

what about it noman?

[green turret]

Okay I'm not a boomer

[zealous knot]

what about nomanasendhelp

fuck

aikar beat me to it

[left swift]

Mule said fine age instead of old so I wondered what they thought about boomer instead

[quasi valley]

I’d call it “the meh”

[zealous knot]

[slim nymph]

man im about ready to get a smart outlet for this damn lamp so i can turn it on w/o getting up

time for amazon

[left swift]

Boomer and zoomer have transcended gen names to now reperest the gen older and younger than you respectively

[quasi valley]

or more appropriately for the current times, “the oof”

[zealous knot]

stop using amazon

[slim nymph]

no thanks

[zealous knot]

you're supporting child slavery

[slim nymph]

ok

[left swift]

Who is amazon

[wide chasm]

Ama Zon

[left swift]

Ooooh

[zealous knot]

some fucking forest that everyone was all about a few months ago

[left swift]

I remember them

[zealous knot]

some shit about it burning down

[green turret]

Y'all boomers and zoomers are all terrible and need to get off my lawn.

[zealous knot]

[wide chasm]

It burned down, but then we got covid, so now the Amazon can wait

[quasi valley]

somehow Germany actually has a sane minister that wants to pass a law for work conditions to be held throughout the entire corporate buying/production process (so not just for production in Ger, but in other countries, then sold in Ger, clothing for example)

will be fun to see what ducks will try to prevent that

[zealous knot]

the what

[green turret]

I actually kinda like the thought of being the grumpy old man who lives in the scary house at the top of the hill and kids are scared of fetching their ball when they accidentally kick it into my garden.

[zealous knot]

yeah and then you eat their brother

[quasi valley]

“get off my lawn you alpha”

[green turret]

Nobody knows why they're scared of him but they just are, and there are rumors about him eating kids or at least having mutant dogs eat their balls.

[zealous knot]

LOL that sounds epically wrong

[formal turret]

the balls kicked into the yard right?

👀

[wide chasm]

Perhaps

[zealous knot]

i don't want no mutant dogs to eat my balls idk wbu

[green turret]

In reality I just steal the balls and give them back to the kids as my alter ego Mr. Naisman who throws bbq parties in the park twice a year and the parents love him because he has good stories and funny jokes.

[quasi valley]

stealing kid’s balls

[zealous knot]

that is the most turbo boomer thing iv'e read all day

[green turret]

Also he runs a charity "Balls and Burgers"

[quasi valley]

that’s too many balls man

[zealous knot]

and iv'e already read some of stef's messages so that says a lot

[wide chasm]

Which supports... balls?

I'm offended Fix

[green turret]

It's just a charity that people can donate balls and burgers to, and all profits go to the twice a year bbq parties.

[quasi valley]

You seem obsessed with balls, mule

[zealous knot]

I'm Fix nice to meet you Offended @wide chasm

[wide chasm]

Nice ping

[zealous knot]

fuck you

[wide chasm]

<3

[green turret]

Look, Mr. Naisman loves balls. Ping pong balls, soccer balls, tennis balls, hockey balls.

[wide chasm]

This just sounds like a very convoluted way to cover the cost of a bbq party

[quasi valley]

that man truly has some balls

[green turret]

Everyone loves bbq parties twice a year in the park.

And alter egos

[quasi valley]

no, it should be on his lawn!

[green turret]

Ballter ego

Mr. Naisman doesn't live in the same house what are you talking about what nonsense is this

[wide chasm]

Twice a year you can get on his lawn for the bbq party, but all other times you gotta get of his lawn

[quasi valley]

then you can pretend to be his step brother taking care of the house while the bad man is out

[green turret]

They are two separate people not at all related

[quasi valley]

but that’s boring, there’s no twist if he doesn’t even pretend to have any connection

[wide chasm]

They are both human, therefore they are related

[green turret]

Mr. Naisman wears glasses and has a mustache. I don't!

[wide chasm]

Not yet

[slim nymph]

https://www.amazon.com/GE-Lighting-93100352-Bluetooth-Replacement/dp/B07W7WFS1X?ref_=ast_sto_dp this is cool

[green turret]

Well I do wear glasses

[slim nymph]

light bulbs that are also speakers

[twin lagoon]

but why

[slim nymph]

play music in room

[quasi valley]

troll your family

[slim nymph]

or house

[green turret]

That's a little unnecessary and also a bit scary

[quasi valley]

WHERES THE MUSIC COMING FROM?

[slim nymph]

not everyone has trolls in house 😛

[vernal moth]

https://twitter.com/danajaybein/status/1240307541491494912?s=19

Dana Jay Bein (#DJB) (@danajaybein)

I've lost my mind.

I wrote Coronavirus Rhapsody:

Is this a sore throat?
Is this just allergies?
Caught in a lockdown
No escape from reality.

Retweets

169335

Likes

565430

Twitter

This is gold

(thread)

[green turret]

Sometimes my lights flicker because they're about to die. I don't need them to have a voice so they can scream in agony at the same time...

[slim nymph]

but i have a google mini already so dont really need it lol, just thought it was cool

[viral hornet]

@quasi valley

[wide chasm]

Imagine your lights just going "g-go on without me..."

[slim nymph]

i want a well known light brand and not one that requires setting up some account with some chinese app to "configure"

for you pot growers: https://www.amazon.com/GE-Lighting-93101230-Balanced-Spectrum/dp/B07NN6SVG6?ref_=ast_sto_dp GE has you covered

[vernal moth]

Does somebody here know if prevent proxy connections in server properties compares against the IP used to generate the access token or against the IP used for /join on the session server?

(and yes I know it compares the AS and not the IP)

Trying to figure out if it prevents token theft or not

[slim nymph]

its suppose to make sure its the same IP

[vernal moth]

If it does, I would argue paper should default that option to true

[slim nymph]

the session validate passes the IP the servers are receiving a connection from and then its up to mojang to compare that IP to creation or joinServer

mojang might verify both

[vernal moth]

I need to test this I guess

Why do I get such thoughts late at night?

[slim nymph]

it would only block people who use proxies that use diff outbound IP's for diff sites

[twin lagoon]

lads i have a hole in my ceiling now and i can see bird feathers when i shine a light in it

how's your day going

[slim nymph]

a 1 to 1 proxy it wont do anything for

[vernal moth]

But if it compares against the access token creation request, it would block all those alt sites that generate you an access token

[slim nymph]

yes

i think thats the intent behind it

[vernal moth]

So if everybody would enable it, those sites would be dead, right?

But it's not enabled by default

[worn ember]

me: tries to parse hex colors
result: 7 chars

[slim nymph]

until those sites proxy connections through them too

[vernal moth]

But then you can read the password?

Or well, nah, https

[slim nymph]

no i meant they give you token but their client also proxies game traffic also

so the connecting ip matches

[vernal moth]

Oh

[slim nymph]

but that would cost them a lot of bandwidth

[vernal moth]

That's a non trivial bandwidth increase if they do it for all packets

Ye

[slim nymph]

also open up easier ability to block their IP's

[vernal moth]

Do you think it's worth changing the default in paper?

[slim nymph]

prob, can make it require a -D flag to turn off

-DILikeBadPeople=true

[vernal moth]

Lol

[slim nymph]

see normal VPN's wont even be impacted by that

as your token creation and all will all be same IP

[vernal moth]

Yeah, the name is missleading

[slim nymph]

its stuff like TOR that would be impacted

[vernal moth]

Intentially I guess

But I mean, who uses tor to play a game, lol

[slim nymph]

compared to the tnt dupe and sand fiasco, i think thats less controversial than those lol

.

discord said i had a new msg, but idont see it :/

i think my discords bugging

[vernal moth]

I just stumbled upon this because I implemented the whole session server thing for a project, and because I saw the discussion in another discord about sessions

If I don't forget I'll create a PR after testing this tomorrow

[limpid comet]

hi guys

i've been trying to fix this problem with maven for the past half hour and i just can't seem to get it to work

mainly because i can't find anyone else with the same error

so basically running a build (for just this specific project) results in this error

Failed to execute goal org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-compiler-plugin:3.8.1:compile (default-compile) on project cryptolib: Fatal error compiling

which is odd because that's it. from what i've seen there should be a reason after Fatal error compiling but i get nothing

i've deleted my .m2, fiddled around with a bunch of different options and i still get this

running maven 3.6.3 and jdk 14

if anyone has had something like this happen before help would be appreciated

[worn ember]

is yoru maven set to 14?

target and source

[limpid comet]

yeah

            <plugin>
                <groupId>org.apache.maven.plugins</groupId>
                <artifactId>maven-compiler-plugin</artifactId>
                <version>3.8.1</version>
                <configuration>
                    <source>${java.version}</source>
                    <target>${java.version}</target>
                </configuration>
            </plugin>

    <properties>
        <java.version>14</java.version>
        <project.build.sourceEncoding>UTF-8</project.build.sourceEncoding>
    </properties>

ok now all projects are doing this

[worn ember]

and is it set to 14 in your intellij project structure?

[slim nymph]

compiler plugin latest? new java versions tend to require compiler plugin updates

[limpid comet]

oh my god

wait

i think i found it

yeah its latest

one sec

[vernal moth]

Maven version too

[limpid comet]

oh lord.

i don't even know how i messed this one up

so I had "invalidargumentexception" instead of "illegalargumentexception"

invalidargumentexception is from some random internal sun package

so it wouldn't compile

added <forceJavacCompilerUse>true</forceJavacCompilerUse> to get the true error

and that's it

well, problem solved, thanks lol

[slim nymph]

yeah we had to use that option too in our build

same issue, compiler error just wont tell you the problem until you use that

[limpid comet]

yeah. you learn something new everyday