#general | PaperMC | Page 988

dim shadow Sep 18, 2020, 5:01 AM

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are u also a filthy migrant? if not, GO TO COLLEGE

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:02 AM

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i thought college wasnt worth it

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thats what aikar or @vernal moth told me

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if u learn young then u dont need college

dim shadow Sep 18, 2020, 5:02 AM

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thats what they tell u but both of them have degrees afaik

next wind Sep 18, 2020, 5:02 AM

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Depends on what your going for

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But that's not always true

dim shadow Sep 18, 2020, 5:02 AM

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at the end of the day employers do look at degrees... unless u have an impressive portfolio of personal projects to show off

next wind Sep 18, 2020, 5:03 AM

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If you love coding or something, and you dedicate a part of your life to it you might be good

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But colleges look good on any application

dim shadow Sep 18, 2020, 5:03 AM

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my current goal is to release some good plugins and hope my spigotmc rating impresses an employer someday

next wind Sep 18, 2020, 5:04 AM

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You just need to get an employer who runs an mc server and uses your plugins lol

dim shadow Sep 18, 2020, 5:04 AM

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but like i said if u can get a degree (and not put urself into debt for 10+ years) then definitely do that

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You just need to get an employer who runs an mc server and uses your plugins lol
@next wind LOL

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:07 AM

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oh that was another question i shuld be asking

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how do ppl fk themselves up so bad that in life they are in debt in 30s/40s

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 5:08 AM

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get credit cards without proper financial education and then max them out

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it really is not hard

dim shadow Sep 18, 2020, 5:08 AM

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expensive degrees
out of state college/uni

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go to community college in ur state, cheap af

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 5:08 AM

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right out of HS I buried myself in 12k of cc debt

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clawed my way out and now im gonna do it again except student loan

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:08 AM

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why

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 5:08 AM

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because kids are stupid

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and i was a kid

next wind Sep 18, 2020, 5:08 AM

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Don't be stupid then

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Thanks for the tip simple

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I think it might be too late though

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 5:09 AM

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take a financial independence workshop/class will be my recommendation

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learn how those card offers sound really juicy and then are not juicy at all

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rtx_boi

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:10 AM

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oh so how a credit card works is you don’t have money

dim shadow Sep 18, 2020, 5:10 AM

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lol i got a bank account at 17... bank gave me a free cc along with it LOL

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banks = not your friend

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:10 AM

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but u can get it then apply for it

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then u have money

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but u just pay them back?

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 5:10 AM

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uh, no, you have a credit line

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it's not your money, it's a promise of your reliability

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they will lend you your purchase amount, and they want it back. if they don't get it back they will tack on interest until they get it back

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that's how i spent 8k and earned 4k of interest, having to pay back 12k total on 8k of merchandise

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:11 AM

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how long do you have to pay it back

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 5:11 AM

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until it's paid back

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i mean read your terms, when you apply you can see the interest rate you'll get

dim shadow Sep 18, 2020, 5:11 AM

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how long do you have to pay it back
@spiral sparrow ur whole life... but the longer it takes the more u owe them in interest

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 5:11 AM

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if you follow the rules, they're great

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the rules of a credit card: charge it, wait until its on your statement, pay the whole thing off

dim shadow Sep 18, 2020, 5:11 AM

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@potent fossil i also ended up paying like half in interest LOL

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 5:11 AM

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uh oh, using a deprecated method

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 5:11 AM

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don't carry the balance, cause then they tack on interest

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:11 AM

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what age do you have to be to get a credit card

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 5:11 AM

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deprecated since java 9

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18

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:12 AM

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how are you 17 with a card @dim shadow

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 5:12 AM

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@dim shadow you probably got a debit card not credit

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 5:12 AM

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You can get a parent to cosign a credit card when you're 16

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 5:12 AM

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unless youre not american

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 5:12 AM

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depending on the bank

dim shadow Sep 18, 2020, 5:12 AM

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no i got both, on the same day LOL

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 5:12 AM

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oh yeah that too

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 5:12 AM

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That means if you fuck up, your parent's credit is on the line

dim shadow Sep 18, 2020, 5:12 AM

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bank of america... lived in georgia back then if that helps any

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 5:12 AM

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"co sign"

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 5:12 AM

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Oh yeah that thing

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 5:12 AM

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don't fuck up on a cosigned credit allowance ^^ its rude

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:13 AM

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i don’t think my parents would do that for me

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LOL

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 5:13 AM

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dw, parents should prevent that

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 5:13 AM

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then wait till ur 18

dim shadow Sep 18, 2020, 5:13 AM

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how old are u huck? i guess it depends on state

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:13 AM

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13

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 5:13 AM

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its a good idea for a parent to cosign so you can get a headstart on your credit cuz you have a credit score of 0 before you get your first one

dim shadow Sep 18, 2020, 5:13 AM

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bruh

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xD

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 5:13 AM

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yeah he's literally in 8th grade worried about his degree and forever job

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i told him to chill

dim shadow Sep 18, 2020, 5:13 AM

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yeah ur not gonna get no cc at 13

void void Sep 18, 2020, 5:13 AM

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Rory_pat

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 5:13 AM

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https://github.com/Chewbotcca/Discord/commit/18c61262572496dfb9f18d0e96c3c40274d14520 IT'S BEAUTIFUL

void void Sep 18, 2020, 5:13 AM

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@mighty storm

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 5:13 AM

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LOVELY

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@zealous wedge get over here immediately, big updates have occureed

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/756382378556915772.gif?size=2048

stiff yarrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:14 AM

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don't fuck up on a cosigned credit allowance ^^ its rude
@potent fossil i co-signed for my bestie because my credit is impeccable and his credit non existent

void void Sep 18, 2020, 5:14 AM

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Rory_pat

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Lmao

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 5:14 AM

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@stiff yarrow that's really nice of you

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big risk

dim shadow Sep 18, 2020, 5:15 AM

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aikar

zealous wedge Sep 18, 2020, 5:15 AM

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@mighty storm that won't work outside of the development environment

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 5:15 AM

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rorypat

zealous wedge Sep 18, 2020, 5:15 AM

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since your source files won't exist

stiff yarrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:15 AM

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I got him 3% interest with my credit

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 5:15 AM

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i mean

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 5:15 AM

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jesus

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on a credit card?

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:15 AM

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what is your default credit when you finally get a card

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 5:15 AM

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i clone the repo when i run it, then compile @zealous wedge

void void Sep 18, 2020, 5:15 AM

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I will do an Aikar one lol

stiff yarrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:15 AM

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On a car loan

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 5:15 AM

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you start with 0 huck

dim shadow Sep 18, 2020, 5:15 AM

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what is your default credit when you finally get a card
@spiral sparrow mine started out at like $1.7k

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 5:15 AM

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that's why you have to get a credit card from a place that doesnt check your credit score, cause you will never get one from a bank to start off

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:15 AM

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is it ok to take a car from your parents

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 5:15 AM

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again, cosign

zealous wedge Sep 18, 2020, 5:16 AM

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that is still super brittle chew 😦

stiff yarrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:16 AM

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Default for me was 1000

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 5:16 AM

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I thought he meant credit score

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:16 AM

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my dad said when i get my permit i can have the 2020 car he has

stiff yarrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:16 AM

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Then they raised it to 2700 without me asking

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 5:16 AM

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listen z0w0 there's brittle and there's 100 imports

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:16 AM

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but if i don’t get mine own do i not@build credit

dim shadow Sep 18, 2020, 5:16 AM

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is it ok to take a car from your parents
@spiral sparrow if he said u can then sure, its his car

zealous wedge Sep 18, 2020, 5:16 AM

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there are alternatives chew :/

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:16 AM

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what about car loans

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 5:16 AM

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you can't build credit unless you have a bureau reporting account, indeed

zealous wedge Sep 18, 2020, 5:16 AM

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like service loader, classpath scanning, all that

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 5:16 AM

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o like what

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 5:16 AM

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car loans report yes but you can't get one without a credit score

zealous wedge Sep 18, 2020, 5:16 AM

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guava i think has a thing, there's reflections

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 5:16 AM

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ok pls pr pleading_apple

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 5:16 AM

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you have to build your credit first

dim shadow Sep 18, 2020, 5:16 AM

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no, fuck loans... cc's are bad enough, loans are worse

stiff yarrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:16 AM

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I’m almost at 800 on FICO

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 5:17 AM

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loans and cc are fine if you play the game correctly

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:17 AM

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i meant

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 5:17 AM

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do NOT loan unless you absolutely have to

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:17 AM

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if i get a fully paid car from my dad

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how do i build credit

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without the loan

dim shadow Sep 18, 2020, 5:17 AM

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cc & loans should be for emergencies only imo

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 5:17 AM

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open a card... lol

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 5:17 AM

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buyng other things?? tf

dim shadow Sep 18, 2020, 5:17 AM

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not buying shit u "want"

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 5:17 AM

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why would you turn down a car just to "build credit"

stiff yarrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:17 AM

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Secured card is easy first step

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 5:17 AM

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if you dont want the car gimme it then lmao

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:17 AM

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i thought if you had a lot of good credit

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 5:17 AM

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if you use CC's correctly, you can do your daily purchases on it and safe your hard cash, then pay it off at your billing cycle

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:17 AM

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you make more money

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 5:17 AM

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nono

zealous wedge Sep 18, 2020, 5:17 AM

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my first credit card had i think a $1k limit?

minor badge Sep 18, 2020, 5:17 AM

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ive apparently got a credit score of 604/1000

zealous wedge Sep 18, 2020, 5:18 AM

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with no credit history

minor badge Sep 18, 2020, 5:18 AM

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not bad for a student

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:18 AM

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so why is credit important

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 5:18 AM

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yours goes to 1000?

minor badge Sep 18, 2020, 5:18 AM

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yes

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:18 AM

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how old were you zml

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 5:18 AM

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im at like 630ish/750ish

void void Sep 18, 2020, 5:18 AM

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Aikar_pat

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Lmao

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:18 AM

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when you got the $1k card

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 5:18 AM

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ok, once again, people, we are advising a 13 year old on credit; yesterday we advised him on degrees and job choice.

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8th grade

zealous wedge Sep 18, 2020, 5:18 AM

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what's fun here is credit checks are free but actually getting a score costs money

stiff yarrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:18 AM

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Credit is useful to not get fucked on a big loan ( like a car )

warm anchor Sep 18, 2020, 5:18 AM

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true

dim shadow Sep 18, 2020, 5:18 AM

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so why is credit important
@spiral sparrow every time u have credit AND pay it back on time, ur credit score goes up, and the higher it is the more money ppl are willing to lend u

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:18 AM

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ohh ok

warm anchor Sep 18, 2020, 5:18 AM

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isnt huck like 12 or something

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too early for him

next wind Sep 18, 2020, 5:18 AM

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13 I think

void void Sep 18, 2020, 5:18 AM

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Rory_pat

dim shadow Sep 18, 2020, 5:18 AM

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credit score = how likely u are to pay shit back

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:19 AM

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so if u have a 1k credit card then you mac it and pay it all off and ur credit score is increased

minor badge Sep 18, 2020, 5:19 AM

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ngl i wish i had learnt abt economics at 13

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:19 AM

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u can get a 5k card?

warm anchor Sep 18, 2020, 5:19 AM

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no

minor badge Sep 18, 2020, 5:19 AM

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im here now with no idea how money works

warm anchor Sep 18, 2020, 5:19 AM

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it's based on your income

dim shadow Sep 18, 2020, 5:19 AM

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maybe not a jump from $1k to $5k but yeah gradually

warm anchor Sep 18, 2020, 5:19 AM

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not base on how fast you can pay it off

stiff yarrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:19 AM

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There’s stupid factors that go into something like a FICO score

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:19 AM

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oh ok

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 5:19 AM

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my card is like $300 limit lmfao

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:19 AM

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why

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is that cause bad score

stiff yarrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:19 AM

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Revolving utilization, age of credit, any missed payments etc

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 5:20 AM

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it's cause my score was 0 when i opened lmao

warm anchor Sep 18, 2020, 5:20 AM

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your score is based on your history (how much you didnt fuck up before) and your income (whatever you decleared to bank), and many other stuffs

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 5:20 AM

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Turn 18:

go to department store, apply for store credit card, get card, use it for some purchases, pay it off on time
after like a year your credit score will be quite high assuming no lateness
apply for other cards
do the same, paying them off ON TIME ALL THE TIME
credit score raises higher
keep them open and use them, older accounts raise your credit score
more accounts (rather than less) raise your credit score
add up all available credit, never use more than 30% of it bc then score goes down

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:20 AM

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i think im going to be going on a road trip with my dad tomorrow and im gonna ask him if we can open a credit for me in 3 years so i can build credit already

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 5:20 AM

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"good" score takes years, decades even

stiff yarrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:20 AM

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my card is like $300 limit lmfao
@mighty storm mine bumped up to 2700 without me even asking them to felt kind of shady like it might trick people into spending too much

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:20 AM

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see if im 16 and if i get a card at 16

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maybe i can be 20

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and have good credit

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 5:20 AM

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my dad is like 820/850 or so

next wind Sep 18, 2020, 5:20 AM

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Don't open a credit card at 13

stiff yarrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:20 AM

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Damn that’s near perfect

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:21 AM

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my dad had bad credit for a long time

next wind Sep 18, 2020, 5:21 AM

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No reason too

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 5:21 AM

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you cant open a credit card at 13

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:21 AM

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then its good now

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 5:21 AM

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yeah, he always pays back on time

stiff yarrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:21 AM

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I’m hoping to hit 800+ soon

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:21 AM

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no i mean in 3 years

stiff yarrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:21 AM

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you cant open a credit card at 13
@mighty storm there are ways

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 5:21 AM

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thought earliest was 16 for cosign

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i got a DEBIT at 13 though

cosmic raft Sep 18, 2020, 5:21 AM

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SecondLife really is an insane game, should see what some people make in it: https://marketplace.secondlife.com/stores/2150

dim shadow Sep 18, 2020, 5:21 AM

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bruh i played that game like 10yrs ago

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too pay2win for my taste

next wind Sep 18, 2020, 5:22 AM

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Stop advertising 😠

stiff yarrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:22 AM

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If you fuck credit up it’s like 7 years of tainted score

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:22 AM

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how did you get a debit at 13

cosmic raft Sep 18, 2020, 5:22 AM

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by asking the bank?

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:22 AM

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and what is the difference between debt and credit

next wind Sep 18, 2020, 5:22 AM

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Debits are easy to get

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 5:22 AM

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went to my bank and got one

cosmic raft Sep 18, 2020, 5:22 AM

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getting a debit card is simple

next wind Sep 18, 2020, 5:22 AM

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Just ask your parent

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 5:22 AM

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debit is just a frontend for your bank

cosmic raft Sep 18, 2020, 5:22 AM

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you just ask

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 5:22 AM

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i had a (child) account at 13

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:22 AM

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oh so debts are where if you don’t have money the card declines

cosmic raft Sep 18, 2020, 5:22 AM

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yes

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:22 AM

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but if it’s credit

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you go negative

dim shadow Sep 18, 2020, 5:22 AM

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credit = money that u put into ur bank
debit = money ur borrowing from bank

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:22 AM

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and thats what you pay

dim shadow Sep 18, 2020, 5:22 AM

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wait no

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 5:22 AM

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debit card is money straight out of your account

dim shadow Sep 18, 2020, 5:23 AM

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other way around LOL

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:23 AM

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ok so if im 16

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 5:23 AM

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Debit card = spending YOUR money
Credit card = Spending bank's money, promising you'll pay it back

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:23 AM

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and have no job

stiff yarrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:23 AM

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Credit is mostly useful for a select few things as an adult

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:23 AM

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and apply for a card will i get one

cosmic raft Sep 18, 2020, 5:23 AM

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yes

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 5:23 AM

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probably not

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well, credit, no

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:23 AM

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just with a low limit

dim shadow Sep 18, 2020, 5:23 AM

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idk about ur bank rules @spiral sparrow but my bank required job

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 5:23 AM

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you need parent's co-sign, then yes

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:23 AM

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i have no bank

cosmic raft Sep 18, 2020, 5:23 AM

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as long as it is debit you apply for

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 5:23 AM

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since parents take the blow

cosmic raft Sep 18, 2020, 5:23 AM

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if you apply for credit, no

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:24 AM

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no i meant credit

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like money i borrow

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 5:24 AM

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depends on bank, parent would co-sign you under them

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if you fuck up, it's on them

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:24 AM

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ok so if i’m 16

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 5:24 AM

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so usually they say no

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:24 AM

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oh ok

cosmic raft Sep 18, 2020, 5:24 AM

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not at 16 without a stable job, no, not by yourself

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 5:24 AM

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you aren't 16 tho.. so just wait a few years to worry abt this lmao

cosmic raft Sep 18, 2020, 5:24 AM

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if with a parent, maybe

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no guarantee your bank will allow it

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 5:24 AM

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id idnt worry about credit cards until ~3 months before i turned 18

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and even now i still dont caare

cosmic raft Sep 18, 2020, 5:24 AM

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I'm 24 and still don't have a credit card

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:25 AM

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it says in my state

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i can get a parent to co sign

dim shadow Sep 18, 2020, 5:25 AM

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i only got a cc because my bank gave it to me free when i opened a bank account ;-;

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:25 AM

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at 13

cosmic raft Sep 18, 2020, 5:25 AM

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sure, huck

dim shadow Sep 18, 2020, 5:25 AM

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i didnt even walk in there wanting a dam cc

next wind Sep 18, 2020, 5:25 AM

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For a debit yes

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 5:25 AM

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i only have mine to "build credit" yet i rarely spend any of my money. usually it's online and there I just use privacy debit cards

cosmic raft Sep 18, 2020, 5:25 AM

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but a bank is under no obligation to provide it

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 5:25 AM

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at 13? not for credit

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:25 AM

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https://www.credit.com/blog/can-you-get-your-teen-a-credit-card-150231/

Credit.com

Jason Steele

Can You Get Your Teen a Credit Card? | Credit.com

Have you ever considered getting a credit card for your child? Here's what to consider.

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 5:25 AM

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that's for your parent to decide

next wind Sep 18, 2020, 5:25 AM

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Don't worry about credit cards

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 5:25 AM

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see your child

minor badge Sep 18, 2020, 5:25 AM

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Debit card = spending YOUR money
Credit card = Spending bank's money, promising you'll pay it back
@mighty storm over here, debit is also spending the banks money (you go negative), but only possible up to N kr, depending on the bank (5k for my current one I believe)

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:25 AM

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Some card issuers require that the authorized cardholder be at least 13 or 15 years old while others have no age limitations

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i guess it depends

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i will talk to him about it tomorrow

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 5:26 AM

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@minor badge in the sense of, buying something with your debit makes your actual balance go zoop, but credit is the "Loan" balance go zoop, at least for my bank

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:26 AM

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so wait

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if i get a credit card but the thing is

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if my parents co sign

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that means their credit is mest up if i mes up

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 5:26 AM

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you can type it all on one line, we can read

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and yes

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:26 AM

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does my credit get affected if i dont mes up

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 5:27 AM

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well yeah, positively

minor badge Sep 18, 2020, 5:27 AM

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ic what you mean then, yea

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:27 AM

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or is it building theirs

stiff yarrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:27 AM

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I'm 24 and still don't have a credit card
@cosmic raft get a secured card, credit score can help drastically reduce the total cost of an auto loan and other things

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 5:27 AM

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actually a good question, anyone know?

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:27 AM

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if your 24 and don’t have a credit card that means your doing well finacially right

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 5:27 AM

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no(t really)

minor badge Sep 18, 2020, 5:27 AM

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should i have a credit card just to tuck it away and never use it? like would it build me credit in any way lol

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 5:27 AM

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just means you dont need one

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:27 AM

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and didnt need loans

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 5:28 AM

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you dont need a credit card to get a loan ( i dont think? )

next wind Sep 18, 2020, 5:28 AM

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You can get loans without a credit card I think

dim shadow Sep 18, 2020, 5:28 AM

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see when i said stop thinking @spiral sparrow ? ur literally thinking 3-4 years ahead right now

stiff yarrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:28 AM

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You will want credit score to be good for when you need a loan on something like a car

dim shadow Sep 18, 2020, 5:28 AM

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ur thinking too damn much go make a utube video

minor badge Sep 18, 2020, 5:28 AM

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5+ actually, Leo

stiff yarrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:28 AM

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should i have a credit card just to tuck it away and never use it? like would it build me credit in any way lol
@minor badge yes and yes

minor badge Sep 18, 2020, 5:28 AM

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alright, thank u nossr 🥺

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:28 AM

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what else do people need loans for

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besides a car

stiff yarrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:28 AM

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Houses

next wind Sep 18, 2020, 5:28 AM

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Houses

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 5:28 AM

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@spiral sparrow imma keep it real with you chief! worrying about the future is a great way to cause unnecessary stress on yourself. Live in the now, worry about today, not tomorrow. This is all stuff you have THREE YEARS to worry about.

next wind Sep 18, 2020, 5:28 AM

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College

minor badge Sep 18, 2020, 5:29 AM

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idk exactly if i will be bothered tho, im not planning on being in this country this time next year

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:29 AM

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i just dont want my life to fail

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its too short to make mistakes

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 5:29 AM

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it's gonna fail if you keep worrying so much about stuff many years in the future

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you'll be so worried about the future you'll fail to enjoy the present

zealous wedge Sep 18, 2020, 5:29 AM

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wait @cosmic raft how do you do online things without a credit card

minor badge Sep 18, 2020, 5:29 AM

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its not, ive made plenty mistakes and am doing fine as just turned 18 lol

next wind Sep 18, 2020, 5:29 AM

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Don't worry about making mistakes

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That's life

dim shadow Sep 18, 2020, 5:29 AM

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lol u will make mistakes... mistakes are how u learn to be better... but u wont make any mistakes if u keep thinking and not doing

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:30 AM

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i cant enjoy the present when i cant go outside with out covering my entire face with a mask

zealous wedge Sep 18, 2020, 5:30 AM

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or do you have one of those debit cards that isn't just interac

stiff yarrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:30 AM

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If your credit is poor it can nearly double the total cost of a car loan from compounding interest which makes the monthly payments higher

next wind Sep 18, 2020, 5:30 AM

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Mistakes are good for you

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 5:30 AM

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present ≠ going outside and doing stuff

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:30 AM

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so i just sit in my house and think about my future

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and try to get my skills up

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 5:30 AM

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Yeah being a tween during pandemic probably sucks lol

dim shadow Sep 18, 2020, 5:30 AM

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i cant enjoy the present when i cant go outside with out covering my entire face with a mask
@spiral sparrow u said ur into programming and utube tho... u can do those inside w/o mask xD

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 5:30 AM

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and yes, mistakes (and learning from others) is wayyy more valuable than just learning what others did

minor badge Sep 18, 2020, 5:31 AM

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.ub tween

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 5:31 AM

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are we too lazy to add "yo" to youtube now? what have we come to... we live in a society

minor badge Sep 18, 2020, 5:31 AM

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mfw no urban dic cmd

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 5:31 AM

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it's .ud dummy

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not .ub

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.ud tween

dim shadow Sep 18, 2020, 5:31 AM

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are we too lazy to add "yo" to youtube now? what have we come to... we live in a society
@mighty storm a soon to be dystopian one yeahj

minor badge Sep 18, 2020, 5:31 AM

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😔

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 5:31 AM

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mfw no .ud command

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%^urban dummy

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oop no bot

minor badge Sep 18, 2020, 5:31 AM

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olivia dumb

zealous wedge Sep 18, 2020, 5:32 AM

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olivia doesn't have her bot with her 😦

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 5:32 AM

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call me dumb all you want but rory is precious rory_pat catpleading

next wind Sep 18, 2020, 5:32 AM

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.g urban dictionary tween

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 5:32 AM

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.urban tween

limber knotBOT Sep 18, 2020, 5:32 AM

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(DiscordBot) https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=tween -- tween - Urban Dictionary: "A word that is used by marketers to describe youths between the ages of 10-13. Although some believe that tweens are actually between the ages of..."

Urban Dictionary

Urban Dictionary: tween

a girl ages about 9-14...too old for toys, but too young for boys. Very easy to market to, will usually follow any fashion trend set for them, will most likely go through the phase of 'finding themselves' as they 'grow up'.

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 5:32 AM

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okay we get it

zealous wedge Sep 18, 2020, 5:32 AM

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ok so if people can bring their cats in here, why can't they bring their bots

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 5:32 AM

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👀

dim shadow Sep 18, 2020, 5:32 AM

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bruh wheres the cat petting emoji i cant find it

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 5:32 AM

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rorypat

dim shadow Sep 18, 2020, 5:32 AM

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yeah that one LOL

zealous wedge Sep 18, 2020, 5:32 AM

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rory_pat

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 5:32 AM

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rory_pat

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it's on the rory simp server

dim shadow Sep 18, 2020, 5:32 AM

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:rory_pet:

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;-;

static pilot Sep 18, 2020, 5:33 AM

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life hack for build credit btw

minor badge Sep 18, 2020, 5:33 AM

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petition to make rory simp server a community server because it serves the greater good of the community

dim shadow Sep 18, 2020, 5:33 AM

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how use it on here

static pilot Sep 18, 2020, 5:33 AM

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sign up for gamble site
apply for 10k credit card
all in $10k to 2x on gamble site

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eZ

zealous wedge Sep 18, 2020, 5:33 AM

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@minor badge why are u not on rory simp server? 😦

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 5:33 AM

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it is, and #rory-images is a news channel :3

minor badge Sep 18, 2020, 5:33 AM

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i wasnt invited

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 5:33 AM

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Proxi did you see my baybayin of your name

next wind Sep 18, 2020, 5:33 AM

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BlobCopter I love this emoji so much for some reason

static pilot Sep 18, 2020, 5:33 AM

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I have a financially crippling gambling addiction

minor badge Sep 18, 2020, 5:33 AM

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i did not

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 5:33 AM

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WTF

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@minor badge https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/555469074080202765/756375114056204349/20200917_214427.jpg

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:34 AM

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even if i dont maek it good on youtube @dim shadow i can probably do programming as a job

next wind Sep 18, 2020, 5:34 AM

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Don't worry bout it

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:34 AM

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im taeking a break from the python course for RN

minor badge Sep 18, 2020, 5:34 AM

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woa

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 5:34 AM

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the one you started yesterday

minor badge Sep 18, 2020, 5:34 AM

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knenypat_upsidedown

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:34 AM

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yeh i ran into a probelm that was too hard

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it was simple too

dim shadow Sep 18, 2020, 5:35 AM

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even if i dont maek it good on youtube @dim shadow i can probably do programming as a job
@spiral sparrow tbh making a living off programming sounds much easier than hitting it big on utube... if u go to college

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 5:35 AM

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bro, im saying this literally one last time lol. stick with something or just stop. if you can't stick with something you're not going to make it

minor badge Sep 18, 2020, 5:35 AM

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thats when you consult with people, ask questions and get answers

zealous wedge Sep 18, 2020, 5:35 AM

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i can't stick with things

next wind Sep 18, 2020, 5:35 AM

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@spiral sparrow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiW4yCT_220 no homo

YouTube

Nicolas Guerra

Don’t worry bout it sweet heart kid in Invisalign ad

I found this ad and just wanted to share it

▶ Play video

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:35 AM

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i did

zealous wedge Sep 18, 2020, 5:35 AM

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that's why i'm here

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 5:35 AM

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@zealous wedge shh

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trying to be a Mentor (TM)

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:35 AM

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i had joined a programming discord and got called a retard by someone with a veteran role

zealous wedge Sep 18, 2020, 5:35 AM

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smh adults

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 5:35 AM

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dont use that word please

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:36 AM

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sry

cosmic raft Sep 18, 2020, 5:36 AM

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@potent fossil do kashike next

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 5:36 AM

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no no, just quoting

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gets a pass

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:36 AM

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📎 unknown.png

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 5:36 AM

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just be careful

next wind Sep 18, 2020, 5:36 AM

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He's quoting so it's all good

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 5:36 AM

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o u want @cosmic raft ?

cosmic raft Sep 18, 2020, 5:36 AM

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yes pls!

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:36 AM

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i looked at the hint and it gave me https://www.math-only-math.com/what-is-simple-interest.html

Math Only Math

What is Simple Interest? | How to Calculate SI | Formula S.I. | Exa...

What is simple interest? In simple interest we will learn about how to calculate simple interest. We will recapitulate the formula for simple interest and know more about it. When we borrow money from

dim shadow Sep 18, 2020, 5:36 AM

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i had joined a programming discord and got called a retard by someone with a veteran role
@spiral sparrow lol yeah programmers have a habit of not being the nicest to newcomers... just ignore them

next wind Sep 18, 2020, 5:36 AM

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Yeah hating on new people is so dumb

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 5:36 AM

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oh yeah they think they're so entitled, especially if they have a role

dim shadow Sep 18, 2020, 5:36 AM

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hell u dont even need discord LOL i learned programming 100% from google tutorials

next wind Sep 18, 2020, 5:36 AM

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They're the worst to hate on

dim shadow Sep 18, 2020, 5:37 AM

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instead i got noob shamed on forums but

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:37 AM

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i still dont get the equation, its like doing umm

dim shadow Sep 18, 2020, 5:37 AM

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yeah thats part of learning programming xD

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:37 AM

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turning 5 to 5%
then worknig out the 5% of amount

dim shadow Sep 18, 2020, 5:37 AM

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5% = 0.05

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:37 AM

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i saw that its like

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ptr/100

dim shadow Sep 18, 2020, 5:37 AM

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divide 5 by 100

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ez pz

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wait

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ptr

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bruh are u trynna learn c++

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:38 AM

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idk

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no

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📎 unknown.png

dim shadow Sep 18, 2020, 5:38 AM

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what is ptr and what language u learnin

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oh waty

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"cent per annum"

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:38 AM

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📎 unknown.png

dim shadow Sep 18, 2020, 5:38 AM

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bruuuuuuuuh

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:39 AM

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"This is a simply math question. Don't over think it. What is ?% of 1000."

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is the #1 hint

dim shadow Sep 18, 2020, 5:39 AM

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7

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wait no 70

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wait thats a question mark not a 7 jesus im drunk

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yeah im going beddy nite yall ❤️ good nite

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:40 AM

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oh wow

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i just completely guessed it right

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📎 unknown.png

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 5:42 AM

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📎 Screenshot_20200917-224211_Squid.jpg

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@cosmic raft

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and btw, due to how tagalog is pronounced, in that you are not Kasheek, you're Ka-shi-kay

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rtx_boi

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 5:46 AM

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i feel like i'm googling too much

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on how to do certain things

visual musk Sep 18, 2020, 5:47 AM

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Which would make a better weapon, microwaves or x-rays

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 5:47 AM

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for quicker death microwaves, xrays will cause cancer

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microwaves will just cook the target

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rtx_boi

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 5:47 AM

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Replying to @spiral sparrow from https://canary.discordapp.com/channels/289587909051416579/555469074080202765/756390699108139100
dont worry everyone does

visual musk Sep 18, 2020, 5:48 AM

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I think x-rays are better for the fear factor. Best weapon is one you never have to fire

vestal jasper Sep 18, 2020, 5:48 AM

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Doesn't help that a good amount of the MC dev community, mostly of the spigot/paper variety, doesn't know how to interact with those less skilled than themselves.

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From my experience a lot of people expect everyone else to have a specific level of competency / etiquette and don't know how to react when that isn't reached

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 5:50 AM

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i mean there is a fine line between being new and trying and being new and not trying whatsoever

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giving up when something gets slightly too difficult is the latter

spiral zinc Sep 18, 2020, 5:50 AM

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i feel like i'm googling too much
@spiral sparrow one note of advice I'll pass on to you is that if you get discouraged, feel free to take a break

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stay healthy and make sure to talk to people about the tough stuff

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also if you don't feel that the jetbrains course is working for you, consider automate the boring stuff or a byte of python instead

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https://automatetheboringstuff.com
https://python.swaroopch.com/

Introduction · GitBook

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 5:51 AM

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rtx_boi

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Split, merge, watermark, and encrypt PDFs

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that was part of my job at the bank, our program had the capability but it had to be custom programmed every time because the varying quality of pages and OCR couldn't fucking figure out where one document ended and the next began

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reeeee

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very real problem huck please fix

minor badge Sep 18, 2020, 5:57 AM

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simple do be putting folks out of a job

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 5:59 AM

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i had to scan the page for a barcode that could be in 1 of 8 places to signal document end, and then some of the documents were tilted because ppl can't scan correctly so those just never made it thru and I was blamed for not making an OCR process that was slick enough to handle that (the program had auto-rotating capability, but it still didn't work because the page was BLURRY reeeee )

minor badge Sep 18, 2020, 5:59 AM

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then fat smudges, coffee spills, and so forth :>

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 5:59 AM

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yes :(

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and then karen is like "why cant you read this document its perfectly fine" and im staring at the barcode that signals document split and it has a gigantic smudge and dark spot in the center of it

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and im like "what is this" and she goes "oh, i made that mark accidentally after a trip to the break room hehe"

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and im like ??? ok well that's why i cant scan it, manual process sorry

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and they're like "how dare you" "stupid IT"

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 6:05 AM

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i just want a job that will assure i have a six figure salary

minor badge Sep 18, 2020, 6:07 AM

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surely thats like.. minimal wage

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just abt anyways?

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 6:10 AM

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wtf in what world is 6 figure minimum wage

static pilot Sep 18, 2020, 6:10 AM

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almost any start up in silicon valley

humble falcon Sep 18, 2020, 6:10 AM

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i mean idk maybe more or less

static pilot Sep 18, 2020, 6:10 AM

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kekwhyper

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 6:10 AM

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i dont think my dad earns 6 figures a year lmfao

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i earn like 4

humble falcon Sep 18, 2020, 6:11 AM

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your dad isn't a programmer maybe that's why (/s)

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 6:11 AM

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2real m8

static pilot Sep 18, 2020, 6:12 AM

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where do you live

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that lets you have living conditions at 4 figures a year

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 6:12 AM

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i mean you can get a degree that leads to a job that makes six figures, or you can get a job you like and earn tenure and raises

keep in mind, your pay has a lot more to do with than just your degree. your job performance, time in company, attitude, etc all have an effect

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 6:12 AM

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wtf

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i didnt say living

static pilot Sep 18, 2020, 6:12 AM

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oh so youre dead

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 6:12 AM

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minimum wage is not a living wage lmfao

humble falcon Sep 18, 2020, 6:12 AM

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dang rip chew

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 6:12 AM

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and nor should it

static pilot Sep 18, 2020, 6:12 AM

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keep in mind, your pay has a lot more to do with than just your degree. your job performance, time in company, attitude, etc all have an effect
especially geographic location

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 6:12 AM

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and god i wish i wasnt living

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 6:12 AM

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but im glad u are @mighty storm

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next time you say some dumb shit like that ill kick your ass

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rorypat

static pilot Sep 18, 2020, 6:13 AM

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but im glad u are
Y

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 6:13 AM

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^

static pilot Sep 18, 2020, 6:13 AM

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It's just another mourn you'll go through at a later point in life

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Smh

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 6:13 AM

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can confirm

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wait

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i think u mean

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 6:13 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/icecube-im-gonna-fight-you-gif-8201336

Tenor

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 6:13 AM

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just another "well that sucks" then move on point

static pilot Sep 18, 2020, 6:13 AM

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dunno

humble falcon Sep 18, 2020, 6:13 AM

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not rly

static pilot Sep 18, 2020, 6:14 AM

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I haven't lost anyone too close to me yet to be able to tell you what I'd do in that kind of event

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 6:14 AM

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call me whatever the term is for it but like i aint sad after someone i knew died 2 years after they've passed

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now i understand it's a lot different if it's someone closer

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that has not happened to me yet, thankfully

static pilot Sep 18, 2020, 6:14 AM

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accomplice, associate, friend

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 6:14 AM

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yeah those kinds of people

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no one related to you basically

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 6:15 AM

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i mean, i dont dwell on stuff like that but i do continue to mourn in private when necessary. missing people randomly, even those you're not family with, happens

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 6:15 AM

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yeah i feel that even with people who didnt die

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 6:15 AM

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we've lost quite a few ppl in the mc community and while i didnt have personal relationships with them i still mourn their losses

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some were like 16 or 17

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too young

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 6:16 AM

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😔

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moment of silence for them

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 6:16 AM

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):

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 6:16 AM

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the guy who wrote the optimization guide is gone

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 6:16 AM

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i used to play on his server

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 6:16 AM

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he pissed me off a lot but i mourn him

static pilot Sep 18, 2020, 6:16 AM

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frash23

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 6:16 AM

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wait wtf? thought he was still around

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 6:16 AM

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no, he died a while ago now

static pilot Sep 18, 2020, 6:16 AM

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nah the optimization guide is being maintained by someone else

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 6:16 AM

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whaat

static pilot Sep 18, 2020, 6:16 AM

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celeimbror or whatever his name is

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 6:16 AM

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the .optimize dude?

static pilot Sep 18, 2020, 6:16 AM

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you mean craftimize?

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 6:17 AM

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celembrimbor is maintaining it but it was OG written by frash23

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 6:17 AM

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i couldve swore ive seen him online recently

static pilot Sep 18, 2020, 6:17 AM

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that guy is still around

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 6:17 AM

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frash23 is gone

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 6:17 AM

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ohh

static pilot Sep 18, 2020, 6:17 AM

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craftimize is a services company

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 6:17 AM

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thats why it says rip him on the guide

static pilot Sep 18, 2020, 6:17 AM

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the optimization guide is a thread

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 6:17 AM

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who was he?

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 6:17 AM

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thinKat

static pilot Sep 18, 2020, 6:17 AM

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a systems admin

hallow swallow Sep 18, 2020, 6:17 AM

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Is there any plugin that makes armor stands like in not ordinary shape

static pilot Sep 18, 2020, 6:17 AM

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smart dude too

hallow swallow Sep 18, 2020, 6:17 AM

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and i can use as server npc to choose server?

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like server selector

static pilot Sep 18, 2020, 6:17 AM

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I had worked on him on a decent sized project like a year or two before that happened

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 6:17 AM

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he did a lot of guides and was generally very knowledgeable. he pissed me off a lot because of his attitude, but i miss him. he was a good guy

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 6:18 AM

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damn, didnt a mod dev pass recently too?

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 6:18 AM

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anyway my point was i mourn ppl i don't know and i dont find it weird

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 6:19 AM

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no one in my life has like.. died.

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theyve just disappeared

zealous wedge Sep 18, 2020, 6:19 AM

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i hope you keep it that way 🙂

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 6:19 AM

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which is similar (not being able to talk to them) but a lot different (because you know they're not gone forever)

zealous wedge Sep 18, 2020, 6:19 AM

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and don't be the dead person in other people's lives

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 6:19 AM

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why do you think i distance myself from relationships as much as possible

static pilot Sep 18, 2020, 6:19 AM

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Sometimes it's just better to not have been alive in the first place

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 6:19 AM

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the more impact i have in people's lives the worse

zealous wedge Sep 18, 2020, 6:20 AM

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not helping rigby

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you're already here chew

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 6:20 AM

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i agree rigby but the damage has been done

static pilot Sep 18, 2020, 6:20 AM

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yup

zealous wedge Sep 18, 2020, 6:20 AM

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imagine what happens if you die and you make someone write a post in #announcements about you

static pilot Sep 18, 2020, 6:21 AM

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not helping rigby
@zealous wedge its just hard to swallow pill

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 6:21 AM

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📎 unknown.png

zealous wedge Sep 18, 2020, 6:21 AM

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think of what a nice post aikar, or demon, or kashike will have to write about you talking about all the things you've done for the community

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 6:22 AM

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nothing all that impactful, at least imo

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im just here helping

humble falcon Sep 18, 2020, 6:22 AM

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why you shouldn't die:

you wouldn't be able to do insert thing you love to do here ❎

mom would be sad ❎

someone would make a post in #announcements ✅

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 6:22 AM

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✅

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 6:22 AM

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✅

zealous wedge Sep 18, 2020, 6:22 AM

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that's impactful

static pilot Sep 18, 2020, 6:22 AM

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✅

humble falcon Sep 18, 2020, 6:22 AM

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why do discord emojis suck

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welp

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 6:22 AM

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I think you're just a noob

zealous wedge Sep 18, 2020, 6:22 AM

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i've already reminded her that rory would be sad

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 6:22 AM

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mfw there's nothing i love doing anymore

humble falcon Sep 18, 2020, 6:22 AM

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shut

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i searched "tick" ok who tf calls it a checkmark

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 6:23 AM

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everybody?

zealous wedge Sep 18, 2020, 6:23 AM

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people not in the uk

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 6:23 AM

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everyone

humble falcon Sep 18, 2020, 6:23 AM

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you guys are all wrong i'm reporting you to discord for making me feel sad

static pilot Sep 18, 2020, 6:23 AM

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📎 Checkmark.png

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 6:23 AM

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listen ill say it again

zealous wedge Sep 18, 2020, 6:23 AM

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get beaned

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 6:24 AM

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eek probably shouldnt say it here nvm

humble falcon Sep 18, 2020, 6:24 AM

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jokes on you beans are amazing

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 6:24 AM

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rory fans let's head out ill be depressed there instead

static pilot Sep 18, 2020, 6:24 AM

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can i become a rory fan?

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 6:24 AM

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you dont can, you just are

cosmic raft Sep 18, 2020, 6:24 AM

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did somebody say bean?

humble falcon Sep 18, 2020, 6:24 AM

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you're born a rory fan

cosmic raft Sep 18, 2020, 6:24 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUEYIhP_9ag

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static pilot Sep 18, 2020, 6:24 AM

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i am a rory fan

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 6:25 AM

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Beans?
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/746441868556107917/751949614315208744/20200905_163425.jpg?width=308&height=683

humble falcon Sep 18, 2020, 6:25 AM

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mr. bean
Literally only reason i went to the english lessons

zealous wedge Sep 18, 2020, 6:27 AM

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beans?

📎 maxresdefault.png

cosmic raft Sep 18, 2020, 6:36 AM

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lmao this script

viral hornet Sep 18, 2020, 6:36 AM

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simple 😳

cosmic raft Sep 18, 2020, 6:37 AM

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Lines with > are questions asked in French, but written in English here.
Responses are from Mr. Bean.

> Coffee?
Oui.

> Sugar?
Non.

> You speak very good French.
Gracias.

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 6:43 AM

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simple 😳
@viral hornet Oo, Kamm?

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clubpenguin

viral hornet Sep 18, 2020, 6:45 AM

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taydance

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 6:46 AM

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@mighty storm do you use rails

minor badge Sep 18, 2020, 6:55 AM

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@viral hornet 😳

mighty storm Sep 18, 2020, 6:59 AM

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tswizzle

minor badge Sep 18, 2020, 7:00 AM

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thank you chew

void void Sep 18, 2020, 7:03 AM

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well shit

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📎 unknown.png

minor badge Sep 18, 2020, 7:04 AM

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oh no

void void Sep 18, 2020, 7:04 AM

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need to get my isic card asap

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(new one that is)

viral hornet Sep 18, 2020, 7:10 AM

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@minor badge 🥺

mental meadow Sep 18, 2020, 7:14 AM

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uwu @minor badge @mighty storm

quasi valley Sep 18, 2020, 7:14 AM

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BIGFROG

viral hornet Sep 18, 2020, 7:17 AM

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KENNY

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knenypat_upsidedown

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How is germany today? is the sun out?

cedar spade Sep 18, 2020, 7:22 AM

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kneny knows the weather across the entire landmass of germany

meager tusk Sep 18, 2020, 7:25 AM

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@twin lagoon PES3_Wave

quasi valley Sep 18, 2020, 7:25 AM

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nice blue sky with a bit of thin clouds here and there 😎

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back to md for sports

spiral zinc Sep 18, 2020, 7:26 AM

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https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/quick-tabs/jnjfeinjfmenlddahdjdmgpbokiacbbb

Quick Tabs

A keyboard centric most recently used (MRU) ordered tab list plugin with search and switch functionality inspired by IntelliJ IDEA

cedar spade Sep 18, 2020, 7:30 AM

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um

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kenny this is the morning program there's no sports on right now

void void Sep 18, 2020, 7:32 AM

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god DAMN

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i just got rid of all legacy plugins

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shaved off good 5 seconds from the boot time

quasi valley Sep 18, 2020, 7:32 AM

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yeah it's nice not having that lol

void void Sep 18, 2020, 7:33 AM

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only legacy plugin was cleanroomgenerator

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_>

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[07:33:42 WARN]: Legacy plugin HeadDatabase v4.12.4 does not specify an api-version.

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literally only plugin in another server

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which is legacy

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.g headdatabase spigot

limber knotBOT Sep 18, 2020, 7:35 AM

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(DiscordBot) https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/head-database.14280/ -- Head Database | SpigotMC - High Performance Minecraft: "Head Database is a fast and user-friendly plugin that allows you to obtain thousands of custom Minecraft skulls that feature unique designs."

quasi valley Sep 18, 2020, 7:35 AM

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ah yes, arcaniax

void void Sep 18, 2020, 7:35 AM

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hnng

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[07:35:55 WARN]: Legacy plugin ConditionalCommands v1.4 does not specify an api-version.

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_>

minor badge Sep 18, 2020, 7:36 AM

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you could probably get off fine with just specifying one for them

void void Sep 18, 2020, 7:36 AM

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yup

minor badge Sep 18, 2020, 7:36 AM

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they rarely need the legacy layer at least

void void Sep 18, 2020, 7:37 AM

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conditionalcommands
i'll JIT it i swear

cedar spade Sep 18, 2020, 7:37 AM

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tfw you have to use api-version: 1.13 even though it doesn't make any sense

quasi valley Sep 18, 2020, 7:39 AM

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^

void void Sep 18, 2020, 7:39 AM

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alr i'll just write another script

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i already made scripts which fixup plugin names and do mass updating for 7 servers

quasi valley Sep 18, 2020, 7:40 AM

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it's so awfully handled as well. it was basically introduced as a sidenote in the giant update text, never really mentioned again, but you have to include it in every plugin

void void Sep 18, 2020, 7:40 AM

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unzip -p -- ConditionalCommands.jar plugin.yml | cat - <<<"api-version: '1.16'" | ...

void void Sep 18, 2020, 7:55 AM

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[07:54:59 ERROR]: Error occurred while enabling HeadDatabase v4.12.3 (Is it up to date?)
java.lang.NoSuchFieldError: EMPTY_MAP
        at me.arcaniax.hdb.object.Settings.<init>(Settings.java:71) ~[?:?]
        at me.arcaniax.hdb.Main.onEnable(Main.java:51) ~[?:?]
        at org.bukkit.plugin.java.JavaPlugin.setEnabled(JavaPlugin.java:263) ~[patched_1.16.3.jar:git-Paper-197]
        at org.bukkit.plugin.java.JavaPluginLoader.enablePlugin(JavaPluginLoader.java:380) ~[patched_1.16.3.jar:git-Paper-197]
        at org.bukkit.plugin.SimplePluginManager.enablePlugin(SimplePluginManager.java:483) ~[patched_1.16.3.jar:git-Paper-197]
        at org.bukkit.craftbukkit.v1_16_R2.CraftServer.enablePlugin(CraftServer.java:501) ~[patched_1.16.3.jar:git-Paper-197]
        at org.bukkit.craftbukkit.v1_16_R2.CraftServer.enablePlugins(CraftServer.java:415) ~[patched_1.16.3.jar:git-Paper-197]
        at net.minecraft.server.v1_16_R2.MinecraftServer.loadWorld(MinecraftServer.java:468) ~[patched_1.16.3.jar:git-Paper-197]
        at net.minecraft.server.v1_16_R2.DedicatedServer.init(DedicatedServer.java:237) ~[patched_1.16.3.jar:git-Paper-197]
        at net.minecraft.server.v1_16_R2.MinecraftServer.w(MinecraftServer.java:939) ~[patched_1.16.3.jar:git-Paper-197]
        at net.minecraft.server.v1_16_R2.MinecraftServer.lambda$a$0(MinecraftServer.java:177) ~[patched_1.16.3.jar:git-Paper-197]
        at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:832) [?:?]
[07:54:59 INFO]: [HeadDatabase] Disabling HeadDatabase v4.12.3

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ah yes

quasi valley Sep 18, 2020, 7:58 AM

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arcaniax kappa kappa

vernal moth Sep 18, 2020, 8:09 AM

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if u learn young then u dont need college
@spiral sparrow a degree does make it certainly much easier, but it's no strong requirement

stiff yarrow Sep 18, 2020, 8:09 AM

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I can’t sleep

vernal moth Sep 18, 2020, 8:10 AM

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So like, if you are able to, going to college for CS stuff isn't a bad idea

stiff yarrow Sep 18, 2020, 8:10 AM

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nossrptsd

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So like, if you are able to, going to college for CS stuff isn't a bad idea
@vernal moth I’ve been hearing bootcamps have been having an influence in companies hiring more degreeless people

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Eff the mobile autocorrect

vernal moth Sep 18, 2020, 8:11 AM

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Bootcamps?

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What does that mean in this context?

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Am assuming its still a short training where you get a paper at the end, right?

stiff yarrow Sep 18, 2020, 8:13 AM

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From my understanding a boot camp is about 1000~ hours of actual coding experience when you’re done with it which is equivalent or more than the typical bachelor in CS

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 8:13 AM

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two of my coworkers got jobs from bootcamps alone, but they werent degreeless. just didn't have IT degrees

vernal moth Sep 18, 2020, 8:14 AM

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Ah ok, so not as short as I thought

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That's like half a ywar

stiff yarrow Sep 18, 2020, 8:14 AM

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There’s a lot of CS graduates who are really low in actual experience ( hours wise )

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 8:14 AM

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the only thing with a bootcamp is the organization hosting it better be reputable because they're the only ones who can confirm "yes, this certificate is valid" whereas a degree can be conferred by any college that the college who gives the degree is grouped with

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for example california CSU, any of those can verify the credentials of a CSU-based degree

vernal moth Sep 18, 2020, 8:15 AM

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I guess it's kinda like germanies dual apprenticeship system

stiff yarrow Sep 18, 2020, 8:15 AM

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It’s my understanding boot camps used to be looked down on but now it’s becoming better perceived among employers

vernal moth Sep 18, 2020, 8:15 AM

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Just, not regulated, lol

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 8:16 AM

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they are well perceived, i cant say how well it works for degreeless folks but for those who have degrees but are not IT and they just wanna work in IT they work very well

stiff yarrow Sep 18, 2020, 8:16 AM

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There’s a lot of fluff in a Cs bachelors like general education credits, boot camps focus on what’s important

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 8:16 AM

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i mean really, degree is not be all end all (in the US)

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if you can network well, you're in the door

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they'll take your bootcamp

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i got a job without a degree and made my way up to AVP simply thru being a Nice Guy (TM)

vernal moth Sep 18, 2020, 8:17 AM

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AVP?

stiff yarrow Sep 18, 2020, 8:17 AM

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What’s AVP

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 8:17 AM

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assistant vice president

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not high by any means

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but higher than the normal entry level

vernal moth Sep 18, 2020, 8:17 AM

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How big is your company?

stiff yarrow Sep 18, 2020, 8:17 AM

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Is it a software job?

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 8:17 AM

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it was Rabobank N.A.

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which is now dissolved

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Mechanics Bank now

vernal moth Sep 18, 2020, 8:18 AM

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Am a normal senior dev and I don't want to be anything else, lol

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 8:18 AM

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And it was "application manager", I was in charge for the west coast enterprise document system incl programming new workflows, but more ops

limber knotBOT Sep 18, 2020, 8:19 AM

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Reminder for DiscordBot: pleading face at michael

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 8:19 AM

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kekwhyper

stiff yarrow Sep 18, 2020, 8:23 AM

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I know well paid devs (80k+ euro salary ) without degrees whose skill level would be considered low among the competent people here, there’s definitely opportunities out there for jobs without a piece of paper backing you

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 8:23 AM

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Networking

stiff yarrow Sep 18, 2020, 8:26 AM

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Could be that or it could be some people can’t come across as competent in an interview to save their life nossrthink

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 8:27 AM

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i mean yea

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CS degree holders with no real experience can't be competitive against a degreeless extremely experienced programmer who has soft (people) skills

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Them soft skills do be killer

stiff yarrow Sep 18, 2020, 8:31 AM

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if I end up having to try to get a job in the industry I’ll document my struggles, might interest someone since I got no degree and a 10 year gap in my resume where I was on disability income nossrptsd

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 8:32 AM

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just emphasize skills more than job and education history

stiff yarrow Sep 18, 2020, 8:32 AM

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I have a feeling I’ll be okay, I have the skills and I’m good with people

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 8:32 AM

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and also, when not in pandemic mode, go to those "young professionals" events which are literally just a bunch of young ppl who meet up to add each other on linked in

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lots of recruiters go to them

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those events are fucking fantastic to getting interviews scheduled cuz you'll be talking to someone thinking they just looking for a job to and then they hit you with the "i like you, actually we're hiring are you interested coming in for an interview lets say tomorrow?" kekwhyper

stiff yarrow Sep 18, 2020, 8:33 AM

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Also if I had to get a job I’d literally just spend all day using 100% of my energy on it so I’d be surprised if I got no offers after X months

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A large part of looking like a good candidate is attitude and I come across as pretty confident in myself irl I just have to make it to the interview stage nossrptsd

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I mean I easily have over 10k hours in programming it shouldn’t be hard to appear competent

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 8:37 AM

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Do you know other skills like basic project management (agile)?

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That'll wow them too, as then they don't have to teach you

stiff yarrow Sep 18, 2020, 8:38 AM

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I’m familiar with those things but I’ve never used them

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 8:38 AM

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like off the top of your head can you define: epic, feature, story, task, sprint

stiff yarrow Sep 18, 2020, 8:38 AM

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I’ve read thorough descriptions of agile work environments

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 8:38 AM

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if you can define those in your interview, chances of hire go Stonks

stiff yarrow Sep 18, 2020, 8:38 AM

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I’ll definitely look into stuff like that if I was on the job search

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Learn all the things

meager tusk Sep 18, 2020, 8:39 AM

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the bootcamp i went to a year or so ago drilled AGILE methodology into me

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PepeLaugh

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 8:39 AM

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agile is so used it's almost obnoxious

meager tusk Sep 18, 2020, 8:39 AM

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yeah

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 8:39 AM

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"hey boss i had this idea"

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"DID YOU ADD IT TO YOUR PHUCKING TEAM LOG"

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"DO YOU RHAVE BANDWIDTH"

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"CAN YOU DO IT THIS SPRINT"

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"NO? FUCK OFF"

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:'(

meager tusk Sep 18, 2020, 8:40 AM

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simple has ptsd

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MonkaS

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 8:40 AM

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maybe a little bit

stiff yarrow Sep 18, 2020, 8:40 AM

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It’d be nice to just stay self employed being able to do things at your own pace with no boss is nice

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 8:40 AM

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i mean yea, agile does really help get shit done though

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its just annoying

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daily standups are annoying too

vernal moth Sep 18, 2020, 8:42 AM

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Stand-ups are the only way I see my coworkers nowadays, lol

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 8:42 AM

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i mean, yea, i can see that

vernal moth Sep 18, 2020, 8:42 AM

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I mean, not really, we also have dedicated offtopic meetings, but I really like stand-ups

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 8:42 AM

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just in a normal situation (at my last job) standup was in the morning and I was caffeine deprived and my boss was always peppy and it just made me angry

vernal moth Sep 18, 2020, 8:42 AM

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It's just 15mins, no problem, but you know what everybody is up to and can help/get help

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 8:42 AM

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rtx_boi

vernal moth Sep 18, 2020, 8:42 AM

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Standup is after lunch here

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 8:43 AM

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my boss always had this shit eating grin on his face every morning it was so annoying

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i always wanted to tell him

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"hey can you be mad for a second"

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"show some emotion other than happy"

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"plz"

vernal moth Sep 18, 2020, 8:44 AM

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So it was not the standup you hated, but the persons ^^

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 8:44 AM

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perhaps

stiff yarrow Sep 18, 2020, 8:44 AM

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The people who are fake happy all the time disturb me

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Like what are they like when they get in the car on their way home

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Sudden shift in attitude?

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 8:44 AM

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Yes

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That's called office bureaucracy, it's fun

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And by fun I mean terrible

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Assume everyone is fake until proven otherwise. Guilty until proven innocent kekwhyper

stiff yarrow Sep 18, 2020, 8:45 AM

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My girlfriend had a physical therapist who was super fake happy to the point of it being blatantly obvious like no one is that fucking cheerful about everything

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It’s creepy to be around, like how can you be that fake all day

ashen cliff Sep 18, 2020, 8:47 AM

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After some time, they just fake it without even realizing it.

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 8:48 AM

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Honestly, lol. You start to see the real people behind the fake facades after a while, and they know you see it and you kinda become a perfect pair of office shitposters

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At least that was my experience

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I used to talk mad shit was my supervisor about everybody then they'd come to see us for something and we'd be like "Ohhh, hi, X. How are you? You look lovely."

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walks away

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skank

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My job's environment may have literally been Paper 1.0 Tier

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But, well

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What can you do

stiff yarrow Sep 18, 2020, 8:50 AM

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Let’s make a company where it’s okay to be depressed and unenthusiastic as long as you’re actually doing your job

quasi valley Sep 18, 2020, 8:50 AM

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so most of companies? kappa

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 8:51 AM

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My last job may not be descriptive of the general experience, that may have just been a literal toxic hellhole

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But I'm going to pretend that everywhere is like that

ashen cliff Sep 18, 2020, 8:51 AM

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Here most just don't care, people get drunk at 9AM just to survive the shift.

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 8:52 AM

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i would kekw but that just hurts

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so

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rtx_boi

ashen cliff Sep 18, 2020, 8:54 AM

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CEO gets taken away by police: we sleep,
Bar across the road gets closed: real shit.

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That was a fun month.

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 8:55 AM

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weewoo_blue weewoo_red

ashen cliff Sep 18, 2020, 8:56 AM

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Best part about that was, we clocked in a 7/8, but police closed the place, so we left.
It was Friday and no one clocked us out. kekwhyper

minor badge Sep 18, 2020, 8:57 AM

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@potent fossil flooshed

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 8:57 AM

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@minor badge uwu

meager tusk Sep 18, 2020, 8:58 AM

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aPES_Love @twin lagoon

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 8:58 AM

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could not send hearts to my boyfriend

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https://tenor.com/view/thanks-bitch-thank-you-grateful-thankful-eric-ochoa-gif-14148793

Tenor

latent valve Sep 18, 2020, 9:12 AM

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exercise

limber knotBOT Sep 18, 2020, 9:18 AM

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Reminder for DiscordBot: wake the fuck up

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 9:19 AM

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lol

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 9:24 AM

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hey @void void so i have a question, you use macos right

void void Sep 18, 2020, 9:25 AM

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yes

quasi valley Sep 18, 2020, 9:26 AM

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@void void can you send me a screen of your macos

void void Sep 18, 2020, 9:27 AM

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no buy one yourself

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shaking my smh

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 9:28 AM

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@void void is that your primary os for dev or do you use i3 for dev

twin lagoon Sep 18, 2020, 9:30 AM

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@quasi valley what is your mother's maiden name

quasi valley Sep 18, 2020, 9:30 AM

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michale

twin lagoon Sep 18, 2020, 9:30 AM

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kneny

quasi valley Sep 18, 2020, 9:30 AM

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🐌

void void Sep 18, 2020, 9:30 AM

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depends on what i need to work on

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why does it matter? are you still trying to figure out whether to use i3wm for stuff or not?

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 9:31 AM

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rtx_boi

void void Sep 18, 2020, 9:33 AM

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what is it, 3rd day already?

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just go and install i3wm

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 9:34 AM

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i mean i3 wise, sure

void void Sep 18, 2020, 9:34 AM

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try it out and see if you like it

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 9:34 AM

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but this behavior? no

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weeks

void void Sep 18, 2020, 9:34 AM

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you can't decide whether you like it or not without trying it out yourself

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it's like trying clothes

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things what might fit for others, might not fit for you no matter how hard you try

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i use i3 on linux because it's dumb easy to set up and its stock configuration with minimal changes is very usable

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that's all i need for my dev sessions

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 9:36 AM

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mikro has ungodly skill level tho

void void Sep 18, 2020, 9:36 AM

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wrong

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 9:36 AM

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true

void void Sep 18, 2020, 9:36 AM

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wrong

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 9:36 AM

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no i was saying your wrong is true

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;)

void void Sep 18, 2020, 9:37 AM

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true

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 9:37 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/git-merge-gitmerge-gif-18010083

Tenor

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Actual picture of Yatopia development

void void Sep 18, 2020, 9:37 AM

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^ when someone else does git merge

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in project i'm working on

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merged two diverged branches with 200 commits each together today

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proved how great wizard i am once again

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 9:38 AM

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is that wizardry or masochism

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or is there a difference at that point

void void Sep 18, 2020, 9:38 AM

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no difference

golden gust Sep 18, 2020, 9:38 AM

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https://tenor.com/Wkic.gif

Tenor

potent fossil Sep 18, 2020, 9:51 AM

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time for beddy bye

void void Sep 18, 2020, 9:53 AM

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gnite

spiral sparrow Sep 18, 2020, 10:10 AM

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depends on what i need to work on
@void void what if youre doing java

void void Sep 18, 2020, 10:19 AM

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then depends on the environment

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if i have linux open, i use linux

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if i have macos open, i use macos

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but i don't use linux when my laptop is not connected to the charger

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because linux is unable to use intel gpu with my hardware

marble lark Sep 18, 2020, 10:59 AM

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how even?

📎 Minecraft_2020-09-18_18-54-19.mp4

topaz mortar Sep 18, 2020, 11:03 AM

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Bugrock edition.

zealous knot Sep 18, 2020, 11:14 AM

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Imagine if you tried to break the portal blocks and it spawned the obsidian back

void void Sep 18, 2020, 11:24 AM

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okay today's friday

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drink or not to drink

zealous knot Sep 18, 2020, 11:34 AM

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Hell no it’s alcohol

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That shit sucks

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Or did you mean drinking drugs? Because that’s totally different

latent valve Sep 18, 2020, 11:37 AM

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RyukoSip

heady spear Sep 18, 2020, 12:29 PM

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@CommandMethod("test <int> [string]")
public void testCommand(@Nonnull final TestCommandSender sender,
                        @Argument("int") @Range(max = "100") final int argument,
                        @Nonnull @Argument(value = "string", defaultValue = "potato") final String string) {
    System.out.printf("Received int: %d and string '%s'\n", argument, string);
}

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📎 Screenshot_from_2020-09-18_14-29-38.png

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This is very hot and not even @green turret can argue that it's a mess

zealous wedge Sep 18, 2020, 12:38 PM

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should be final @Nonnull not @Nonnull final

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but it's not bad for annotation commands

heady spear Sep 18, 2020, 12:38 PM

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I put all annotations before keywords

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everything else is gross

zealous wedge Sep 18, 2020, 12:38 PM

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wrong

quasi valley Sep 18, 2020, 12:39 PM

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oh nice MS is not buying tiktok

heady spear Sep 18, 2020, 12:39 PM

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Anyway, this is more verbose than ACF stuff but that's not necessarily a bad thing

quasi valley Sep 18, 2020, 12:39 PM

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and download is forbidden with Sunday, with already downloaded apps being yoten on November 12th

heady spear Sep 18, 2020, 12:39 PM

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I hate how it constructs the command syntax from the parameters

zealous wedge Sep 18, 2020, 12:39 PM

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it's also less stringly typed than ACF

heady spear Sep 18, 2020, 12:40 PM

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this allows me to do shit like test|t <number> literal [string] [somethingelse]

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to parse t 10 literal sausage true

cedar spade Sep 18, 2020, 12:42 PM

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ur a literal sausage

heady spear Sep 18, 2020, 12:42 PM

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There are some minor shit left tho. This doesn't map the aliases properly yet, and I need it to be able to parse command meta data for stuff like descriptions etc

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Hm. I wanna do the velocity module next I think

zealous wedge Sep 18, 2020, 12:46 PM

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velocity is ez

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it's just brig

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sponge 8 will be fun tho

heady spear Sep 18, 2020, 12:49 PM

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That’s why I wanna do velocity, because I already have the entire brig mapping stuff done

zealous wedge Sep 18, 2020, 12:49 PM

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fair

limber knotBOT Sep 18, 2020, 12:51 PM

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city shilling his command library everywhere 👀

zealous wedge Sep 18, 2020, 12:51 PM

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for sponge you have to do all this groove https://github.com/PEXPlugins/PermissionsEx/pull/3095/files#diff-4dc5d2986f03aef607b0320078ee64d3R42

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and sponge calls the appropriate event for people to register commands with you

heady spear Sep 18, 2020, 12:57 PM

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I am excited ok >:(((

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ACF is highly overrepresented

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Tbh I don't think the sponge mappings will be specially hard either considering it's a sponge API

limber knotBOT Sep 18, 2020, 12:59 PM

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yeah, I probably write my own framework too eventually (depending on how much I like yours :P)

heady spear Sep 18, 2020, 12:59 PM

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I am gonna start doing out-of-code documentation soon. I'm very open to feedback and suggestions ^-^

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I mean most of it is shaped around ppl telling me I'm dumb in this Discord

wide chasm Sep 18, 2020, 1:00 PM

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You're dumb

heady spear Sep 18, 2020, 1:00 PM

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thx stef

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you too

wide chasm Sep 18, 2020, 1:00 PM

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❤️

limber knotBOT Sep 18, 2020, 1:00 PM

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I just want a proper OOP command library lol

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and acf doesn't do that ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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let me abuse lambdas everywhere and I'm all in ;D

heady spear Sep 18, 2020, 1:01 PM

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you'll like cloud then 👀

left swift Sep 18, 2020, 1:01 PM

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SUPER THIS ^

Edit: thank you kind stranger for the gold

heady spear Sep 18, 2020, 1:01 PM

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it's builder-centric and the annotations reside in an optional module

limber knotBOT Sep 18, 2020, 1:02 PM

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do you do automatic help generation and "smart" aliasiing (partially matching of sub commands) in cloud?

heady spear Sep 18, 2020, 1:07 PM

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and "smart" aliasiing (partially matching of sub commands)
wat

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I don't do help generation because that's very gross to do by default. Might add another optional module for that as it'd be neat to have in Hyperverse, though.

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cloud-core doesn't even send messages, it just throws specific exceptions and then you can handle them however you want to

limber knotBOT Sep 18, 2020, 1:08 PM

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so that you can do '/command subcoif you have/command subcommand` registered without having to define all aliases yourself

heady spear Sep 18, 2020, 1:08 PM

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cloud-bukkit will do a little more by default, and I might implement command help menus too

limber knotBOT Sep 18, 2020, 1:08 PM

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(of course such a feature should be optional)

heady spear Sep 18, 2020, 1:08 PM

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I can probably add an option for that in the literal argument parser

limber knotBOT Sep 18, 2020, 1:09 PM

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best would be a minimum length or something

heady spear Sep 18, 2020, 1:09 PM

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https://github.com/Sauilitired/cloud/blob/1e58ca3f137fb6586864be6a16430aee662bc447/cloud-core/src/main/java/com/intellectualsites/commands/arguments/StaticArgument.java#L110
This is alli it does right now

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but there's nothing stopping me from adding more options there. I'd love to :]

limber knotBOT Sep 18, 2020, 1:09 PM

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I personally have been using a matcher which just allows a single character and it's freaking amazing

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speeds up command usage so much xD

heady spear Sep 18, 2020, 1:10 PM

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I've been wanting to add levenshtein distance based approach

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we partially use that in p2

limber knotBOT Sep 18, 2020, 1:10 PM

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eww, loops. y u not use maps?

heady spear Sep 18, 2020, 1:11 PM

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If I use a map I couldn't possible add the feature you requested

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lol

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Tbh using O(n) literal parsing rather than (best case) O(1) for the sake of not having to rewrite the parser in a day or two

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not a big deal 😛

zealous wedge Sep 18, 2020, 1:15 PM

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does this look like protocollib discord?

glad narwhal Sep 18, 2020, 1:15 PM

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oh

heady spear Sep 18, 2020, 1:15 PM

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yes

glad narwhal Sep 18, 2020, 1:15 PM

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sorry

zealous wedge Sep 18, 2020, 1:15 PM

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i think your vision might be a bit cloudy, city

heady spear Sep 18, 2020, 1:15 PM

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I've been washing my eyes with hand sanitizer ever since the pandemic started

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they're very healthy and functional

cosmic raft Sep 18, 2020, 1:17 PM

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Hm

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I need to go shopping in a little bit

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need more graph paper

heady spear Sep 18, 2020, 1:17 PM

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Understandable

drowsy urchin Sep 18, 2020, 1:24 PM

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Why is CMI such a terrible plugin.

twin lagoon Sep 18, 2020, 1:24 PM

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because it is

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stop using it

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it was never a good idea

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it never looked like a good idea and if you do think it looked like a good idea you're wrong

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rtx_boi

drowsy urchin Sep 18, 2020, 1:24 PM

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Yes sirrr.

golden gust Sep 18, 2020, 1:27 PM

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graph paper

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God, my eyes hurt just thinking about it

cosmic raft Sep 18, 2020, 1:31 PM

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@golden gust why

dim shadow Sep 18, 2020, 1:31 PM

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damn

left swift Sep 18, 2020, 1:31 PM

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Lines

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Too many

golden gust Sep 18, 2020, 1:31 PM

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Basically, my eyes are so awesome that graph paper just fucks them over

dim shadow Sep 18, 2020, 1:32 PM

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someone recommended it to me as an alt to essentials... it looked really good but i didnt get it cuz all of my plugins depend on essx

golden gust Sep 18, 2020, 1:32 PM

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I mean, it's a premium plugin

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looking good and being good are two entirely different concepts

minor badge Sep 18, 2020, 1:32 PM

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CMI looks (semi-)good, thats abt it

golden gust Sep 18, 2020, 1:33 PM

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CMI is one of those plugins where it's like one person working on a project which massively boiled out of scope

dim shadow Sep 18, 2020, 1:33 PM

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yeah i wouldnt mind payin up, but like, i have mods coded into essx... and cmi aint open source

golden gust Sep 18, 2020, 1:33 PM

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gl getting bugs fixed, etc, especially in a reasonable time

limber knotBOT Sep 18, 2020, 1:33 PM

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cmi also doesn't really support any kind of proper third-party integration

left swift Sep 18, 2020, 1:33 PM

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Essx is just better

limber knotBOT Sep 18, 2020, 1:33 PM

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they have almost zero events

dim shadow Sep 18, 2020, 1:33 PM

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aw ;-;

golden gust Sep 18, 2020, 1:33 PM

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At the end of the day, EssX covers the basics

limber knotBOT Sep 18, 2020, 1:33 PM

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EssX and other plugins doing exactly what they were designed for are a lot better

golden gust Sep 18, 2020, 1:33 PM

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If you want more fleshy features, get plugins dedicated to the job

limber knotBOT Sep 18, 2020, 1:34 PM

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CMI does everything but nothing right

heady spear Sep 18, 2020, 1:35 PM

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Most of these essentials plugins do the bare essentials and then 9 trillion things that most people don’t need

limber knotBOT Sep 18, 2020, 1:35 PM

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In German we have the term "Eierlegende Wollmichsau" for that xD (roughly translates to: egg-laying woolly milk sow meaning an animal that tries to do everything)

heady spear Sep 18, 2020, 1:35 PM

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I don’t get the appeal tbh

limber knotBOT Sep 18, 2020, 1:35 PM

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it's nice if you just want a good amount of stuff but not spend ages finding plugins/setting them up

golden gust Sep 18, 2020, 1:35 PM

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you're assuming that server owners have sense beyond "looks flashy"

heady spear Sep 18, 2020, 1:35 PM

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I guess people are too lazy to configure multiple good tools, so they settle for one mediocre tool

limber knotBOT Sep 18, 2020, 1:35 PM

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and Essentials is at least fairly well written and of course open source

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is it the best you are going to get if you have one plugin per feature? of course not. but it will do the job

heady spear Sep 18, 2020, 1:36 PM

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EssentialsX has improved a lot

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Essentials back in the day was a big ol’ mess

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Not saying they aren’t doing a good job, because they are. But eh. CMI is just dum however

cedar spade Sep 18, 2020, 1:38 PM

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👀

📎 unknown.png

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I agree with one of those statements

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And the other only slightly

golden gust Sep 18, 2020, 1:39 PM

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~~Somebody just needs to remake essentials~~

cedar spade Sep 18, 2020, 1:39 PM

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if only it was that easy

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glances at private repo

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also they have, it's called Nucleus cat

golden gust Sep 18, 2020, 1:39 PM

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Yea, but, like

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for a relevant platform

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runs

cedar spade Sep 18, 2020, 1:39 PM

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shots fired

heady spear Sep 18, 2020, 1:39 PM

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I just don’t like monolithic software and I’d personally like it better if essentials limited the feature scope by roughly 99%

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But I am also not a dumb server owner so it doesn’t matter

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I’m just dumb 🤷

golden gust Sep 18, 2020, 1:40 PM

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The issue with trying to avoid monolithicness is maintenance

left swift Sep 18, 2020, 1:40 PM

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I thought you were a server

golden gust Sep 18, 2020, 1:40 PM

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You end up trying to maintain 200 pieces of software vs a handful

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The thing with essentials is that it's generally one or a handful of jars which covers the majority of the core aspects of any server

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nicks, useful ban commands, etc, etc

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There are plugins which do pretty much everything EssX does but better

heady spear Sep 18, 2020, 1:41 PM

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I do get the appeal. I just prefer using dedicated plugins for every aspect of the game

golden gust Sep 18, 2020, 1:41 PM

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But, many of those are unmaintained because nobody really needs that much, or they're just so small that they fall out of care

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e.g. I used to use craftbook or whatever it was when Ess died

cedar spade Sep 18, 2020, 1:42 PM

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*CommandBook

left swift Sep 18, 2020, 1:42 PM

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pepeLaugh

golden gust Sep 18, 2020, 1:42 PM

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We ended up needing to use another teleportation plugin to counteract that plugins lack of decent teleportation stuff

cedar spade Sep 18, 2020, 1:42 PM

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craftbook is the mechanical mod-as-a-plugin

golden gust Sep 18, 2020, 1:43 PM

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And, that was K, but, I don't think that there are many plugins which fit that specific role, bar "hai am java plz compile"

cedar spade Sep 18, 2020, 1:43 PM

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Essentials has workarounds for funky teleport stuff (you can make it catch all teleports and store for /back) but it's... meh

heady spear Sep 18, 2020, 1:43 PM

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Though IntellectualSites is very guilty of producing kitchen sink software. PlotSquared started out as a plot generator and now it does world management, WorldEdit limiting, tile entity management etc etc etc

golden gust Sep 18, 2020, 1:43 PM

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Well, that's a very issue why software gets big

heady spear Sep 18, 2020, 1:43 PM

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It’s so easy to add too many features to a plugin because the users are too dumb to realize they don’t belong there and keep begging for them

cedar spade Sep 18, 2020, 1:44 PM

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glances at /tpr

golden gust Sep 18, 2020, 1:44 PM

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You end up with a small concept of plots, and all of a sudden you need to add support for things like WE restrictions in plots

dim shadow Sep 18, 2020, 1:44 PM

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glances at /tpr
@cedar spade lol essx /tpr is better than most /wild plugins

golden gust Sep 18, 2020, 1:44 PM

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Do you create another plugin for that? or, just slap it in the current plugin as it's only a few dozen lines anyways

dim shadow Sep 18, 2020, 1:44 PM

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and i tried like 3 of them

heady spear Sep 18, 2020, 1:45 PM

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DarkEyeDragon has a good one

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@worn ember plug!

cedar spade Sep 18, 2020, 1:45 PM

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I'm not bashing the implementation - pop + contributors did a decent job of it

golden gust Sep 18, 2020, 1:45 PM

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The thing is, where do you draw the line?

cedar spade Sep 18, 2020, 1:45 PM

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^

golden gust Sep 18, 2020, 1:46 PM

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Like, /wild in essentials just sounds dumb when there are already so many plugins which do it

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But, at the same point, many of those plugins have their own stupid problems, and well, /wild is essential to me, amirite?!

dim shadow Sep 18, 2020, 1:46 PM

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that would make sense cat... but like... i legit couldnt find a single one that worked properly

heady spear Sep 18, 2020, 1:46 PM

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However, essentials is in dire need of java doc and nullability annotations

cedar spade Sep 18, 2020, 1:47 PM

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EssX also inherits the nonsense of 6 dubious and very specific addons, and changing the addons structure (adding new ones) creates a whole other load of questions

heady spear Sep 18, 2020, 1:47 PM

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Imagine not documenting every public method smh

golden gust Sep 18, 2020, 1:47 PM

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I've been working on some private code base, a few months ago I ended up doing the joyous thing of converting a /wild system to use the beautiful async chunk system