general

[potent fossil]

i mean ye, cool. i think the answer was up there earlier, they added it in draft status. it's just been published, so now people need to work on updating

[cosmic raft]

mhm

[mighty storm]

🚩 New in Emoji 13.0: now on Android 11 beta and coming to more platforms such as iOS by the end of 2020.

wtf i love android now

[potent fossil]

can't really expect people to update before release...let me throw back to the convo we just had earlier in here about why paper doesn't support older mc. It's the same argument, just flipped. Why don't people support newer standards before release?

[mighty storm]

ok we all agree that if discord doesnt have it by end of 2020 we riot right

[hazy veldt]

Does 🪣 work? It's part of the same release set as the flag

[cosmic raft]

no chew

2020 does not need any more riots

[potent fossil]

if they don't have it by January 1st 2021 we riot

new year new me

[mighty storm]

ah, much better

thank you simple

[restive thicket]

Bold assumption there will be a 2021.

[mighty storm]

oh right

December 32nd, 2020

[potent fossil]

[mighty storm]

im on Mojave

or should I say

Joe

[golden gust]

catalina

[mighty storm]

meow

[golden gust]

Not touching the previews just yet

[mighty storm]

i booted a vm but didnt give it enough space rip

tf

mfw dude thought he could just drag the video from his computer

[hazy veldt]

Why did they think that would work?

[cosmic raft]

You can on lots of sites. :)

[mighty storm]

ah glad to see the forums are active

[golden gust]

Yea, most file uploaders accept files dragged onto them, they'll often just shove the file path in there as plain text just for 10/10 confusion

[zealous wedge]

Thanks for the 5 stars @zealous wedge uwu
@mighty storm uwu

[mighty storm]

:3

all alone in vc 😢

pure kicked me out

[serene bolt]

?????

[golden gust]

I'm alll alllooone

There's no one here beessiiiide me

[mighty storm]

pure came in called me a boy and left 😡 (this is a joke, not slander, do not sue me)

[serene bolt]

wtf

ok ty

[golden gust]

"Hey dude, how's it going?"

poofs and never seen again

[serene bolt]

[mighty storm]

he said his mom doesnt let him talk to boys

because girls have cooties

or smth idk i was busy

[serene bolt]

wtf are you even talking about

[potent fossil]

[mighty storm]

im just analyzing what our convo was

albeit very brief

[serene bolt]

his mom doesnt let him talk to boys
because girls have cooties
how does that even make sense

[mighty storm]

do you make sense pure?

[serene bolt]

also

he

👀

[mighty storm]

sorry, "spigot moderator"

[golden gust]

presenting the brain... on liberal

runs

[mighty storm]

i forgot what glare said your pronouns were

@fallen oracle hey

who wants my company staff card

it doesnt do anything

except display my deadname when you swipe it

[fallen oracle]

?

[mighty storm]

rememebr when you were 🚀 and told me pure's pronouns

it was like spigot mod/spigot dev or something

[still cape]

you should put your kitty's picture on it

[serene bolt]

I don't like to remember that night, that was a scary night

[mighty storm]

rory ;3

[still cape]

yes 🙂

[mighty storm]

poll: rory?

I should get a separate account for discord mobile

PURE

WTF

[serene bolt]

what's wrong?

[mighty storm]

Why did you call my precious lil pork chop a slab of meet!

[serene bolt]

Ooo pork chop, even better

[restive thicket]

Because Rory deserves only the finest in food!

[mighty storm]

Oh right!

Can we get someone to go steal Camo's tables

He deserves more than a #ffffff name

[restive thicket]

Redned needs tables stolen first.

He started Geyser.

[mighty storm]

Yes

[still cape]

on my server players can have lumas (plugin) of their pets

[mighty storm]

We need Geyser in #community-guilds

[golden gust]

we do not condone the clicking of this invite
as a disclaimer

runs

[mighty storm]

it's not an invite it's a gift

discord.gift/geysermc

ezpz

[serene bolt]

I remember when I let players display custom images in game, definitely not a good idea

[mighty storm]

oh no

[fallen oracle]

Idk what you're talking about

[potent fossil]

wow, i just did this problem without looking anything up and got a more exact answer than the book bc i didn't round my shit

🥺

nvm i got the wrong answer by like 0.42 because i did round my shit

[mighty storm]

what a twist

[potent fossil]

zed moment

[mighty storm]

mist twist

absolutely not suspicious

[potent fossil]

amazing what eight hundredths can do

[still cape]

you're leaving simple? when?

[serene bolt]

link me chew

[potent fossil]

wha

[mighty storm]

dont u dare delete my reviews

but for everyone else, feel free to enjoy them: https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/spigotdrama-generator-plugin-edition.83423/reviews#review-354554-9060

[serene bolt]

hmmmm no rule breaking reviews, you're good..... for now

[mighty storm]

😳

can i pay another way?

oh wait

wrong for now

[serene bolt]

don't worry I already get asked that once a week

[mighty storm]

ill make it once a day

oh i feel rich now

why cant i like my own post?

[serene bolt]

what is this, facebook?

[mighty storm]

nah, way less salty

[serene bolt]

debatable

[potent fossil]

me when i got the answer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqIx57aBiAk

[mighty storm]

mfw most recent video in my sub box is 11 hours ago

[serene bolt]

is ChewAPI shaded in or is it a required plugin someone has to grab

oh ok its just a library

[mighty storm]

ye

it's just a general java api libary, not even mc specific

[potent fossil]

mfw, in order to lift a 10kg leaky bucket from the ground to 12m while it leaks at 3kg per meter using a rope that weighs 0.8 kg per meter, you'll expend exactly 4 fucking kilojoules

[mighty storm]

99% of file size is okhttp3

[potent fossil]

and by exactly i mean not exactly

[mighty storm]

how many people use dnd as its intended to

i see everyone always dnd like when can i talk to you

[serene bolt]

I just use dnd because i hate popups and notifications / sounds / alerts

[potent fossil]

^

[mighty storm]

then just turn them off!

[potent fossil]

i like them for some servers just not all the time

[mighty storm]

Streamer mode > no alerts + enable

[serene bolt]

DND is way easier to toggle between on and off and goes across desktop and mobile though

[fallen oracle]

Okay but think of how much money you'd make if you took bribes to remove reviews.

Think of all the uncrustables.

[mighty storm]

i NEVER get ANY notifications

no onelikes mei guess 😔

[potent fossil]

but, i like notifications. i am not always dnd. im dnd atm so i dont get notifs while i do homework

[serene bolt]

I get DMs and random pings all the time

[mighty storm]

i would never randomly dm anyone

nevr

is there a way to hook into every event

[fallen oracle]

Yeah

[serene bolt]

lol yes, go look at discordsrvs new alert system

[mighty storm]

oh no

[fallen oracle]

Everything extends event

Just listen for event

[mighty storm]

ahhhhhh yeahh

gonna make a plugin that notifies me on every event

[fallen oracle]

Do like a discord webhooks

[serene bolt]

just be careful what events you listen too

[fallen oracle]

And then shake your mouse around

And wait for the player move event to occur

[mighty storm]

why is there a UserBootsUpPornEvent or something

oh

[serene bolt]

for example, listening to the non async chat event will be bad

[fallen oracle]

Does that instantly make all chat sync?

[serene bolt]

as far as I am aware, yes, everything will go sync

[fallen oracle]

Yikes

[mighty storm]

oh no

[still cape]

i NEVER get ANY notifications
@mighty storm i like you

[golden gust]

The async event will still be called async if it's from players

[mighty storm]

that didnt notify me tho i was already here

[limber knot]

why does everyone keep pinging me

[golden gust]

But, listening on the sync event will push a task onto the main thread to fire the event

[still cape]

no onelikes mei guess 😔
@mighty storm i think you're cool

[limber knot]

thank u

[mighty storm]

thanks <3

hey

irc chew shoo

[limber knot]

they keep PINGING Me

[fallen oracle]

Wat

[serene bolt]

chew your disassociating again

[mighty storm]

again?

[limber knot]

no she just stole my identity

[rose lion]

Yo Glare just ran into some cheaters, 33 kills..

[mighty storm]

speaking of cheaters

[still cape]

o.0

who cheatin

[mighty storm]

eh long story

it all started - jk too personal

[still cape]

https://tenor.com/YmJM.gif

[fallen oracle]

33? Danggg

I saw some people cheating earlier, was crazy.

[potent fossil]

cheating in..?

[fallen oracle]

Warzone

[potent fossil]

ah

[rose lion]

Dude was running around putting hearts in walls because he had 13 people watching

[worn pasture]

call of duty

[viral hornet]

call of booty 🥺

[mighty storm]

why.do.people.do

if(bruh)
{
    // i think this is ok!
}```

ahh

[fallen oracle]

?

[potent fossil]

its a code style

a stupid code style

but a code style

[fallen oracle]

Only for people who are wrong

[worn pasture]

i hate that

[cosmic raft]

@mighty storm the same reason people use kotlin

they like it

[mighty storm]

reee

[worn pasture]

and no space after the if how daaaaaare you

[cosmic raft]

that's me turbo :)

[mighty storm]

oops

[worn pasture]

🔫

[cosmic raft]

I don't use spaces with if/for/while/try

no point

[worn pasture]

😡

[mighty storm]

desr.append(role.getPermissions().stream().map(p -> "`, `"+p.getName()).reduce("", String::concat).substring(3)).append("`");```
what the hELL

can someonebreak this down, i got lost after .stream()

[cosmic raft]

go learn java

[mighty storm]

why are we mapping and reducing

is this endgame

[minor badge]

kash toxic

[viral hornet]

and no space after the if how daaaaaare you
@worn pasture example please

[mighty storm]

of?

[worn pasture]

literally what chew said above

[mighty storm]

https://canary.discordapp.com/channels/289587909051416579/555469074080202765/752378728474214450

[viral hornet]

I'm not paying attention smh

oh

[worn pasture]

understandable

[viral hornet]

okay that's not bad

I don't think it's bad to have a space either tho

[worn pasture]

are you kidding

[zealous wedge]

pay more attention

[viral hornet]

probably just a bit neater

[worn pasture]

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

[viral hornet]

z0w0 I only had little sleep the past few nights

[zealous wedge]

kashikes codestyle is valid

[worn pasture]

drink a whole bottle of whiskey camm

[zealous wedge]

no excuse camm

[worn pasture]

that will set you straight

straight to bed 😉

[viral hornet]

I drunk half of that bottle of gin (or probably more?) last night

[worn pasture]

probably more

[minor badge]

@viral hornet uwu

[worn pasture]

it's always definitely more

[mighty storm]

idk about yall

[viral hornet]

It was really nice, and I was really gone, so i'm not sure why I woke up 4 hours after passing out 😠

proxi uwu

[worn pasture]

smh

camm you're doing it wrong

[viral hornet]

more carbonchatProxiFixes when

[mighty storm]

typically I do

if (bruh)
    something()
        .that()
        .does()
        .this();

no curly bois

[worn pasture]

no brackets omg

[viral hornet]

Turbo you could have came and shown me how to do it, but you dogged me soooo

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[worn pasture]

LOL

here we go

[viral hornet]

[worn pasture]

mr. flakey couldn't decide what to do until the day i'm there

[mighty storm]

dog me you say?

well

im mor eof a cat person

[viral hornet]

mr. suckmeoffatthenextstation

[potent fossil]

well if you're offering...

[worn pasture]

[viral hornet]

[mighty storm]

heyy i man ill od it

[worn pasture]

u wot

[fallen oracle]

Today was a good day. I remembered condiments at the grocery store for my sandwiches. Upgraded from bread and meat to bread and meat and condiments.

[still cape]

just make sure you wear a mask

ooh your user icon is cool glare

[mighty storm]

what does remastered even me

[still cape]

how do you get it to sparkle

[worn pasture]

what should my new pfp be

[potent fossil]

remastered means the original quality is taken and then upscaled and then artifacts cleaned up

typically anyway

[still cape]

remastered means redone/upgraded/improved

like the sound quality from an old lp on cd

[worn pasture]

did someone say LP

[zealous wedge]

RemasteredPerms

[mighty storm]

pex2

[worn pasture]

PermissionSexyTimes

[golden gust]

I can't believe that they hack the logger just for that

[cosmic raft]

?

[zealous wedge]

lol you saw that

[golden gust]

https://github.com/PEXPlugins/PermissionsEx/blob/1.23.x/src/main/java/ru/tehkode/permissions/bukkit/PermissionsEx.java#L124

[zealous wedge]

high school me was extra ok

[vestal jasper]

Looks worth it to me

[cosmic raft]

heh

I forget about that

[mighty storm]

more like HIGH school

jk

i was offered weed one time but i said no

[golden gust]

drugs are bad

m'kay

[zealous wedge]

drugs r fine

[mighty storm]

the only drugs i want is hrt 😤

[potent fossil]

someone offered to buy me weed in english class senior year, and i said no. and then went home and found out the best way to buy weed and became the biggest pothead in the school

[vestal jasper]

BuT WeED IsNt A dRUG

[worn pasture]

i was never offered weed at school :(

[zealous wedge]

you can just buy weed online lol

[worn pasture]

just lots of booze

[potent fossil]

yes that's what i did zml

[vestal jasper]

It's legal where I live

[potent fossil]

they offered to buy it for me from "their dealer" and i was like no

[zealous wedge]

i was never offered weed at school :(
@worn pasture me neither until uni

[potent fossil]

and then i did Stonks

[vestal jasper]

I could walk over to a store and buy it

[minor badge]

@zealous wedge 🥺

[zealous wedge]

someone offered me cocaine once

[vestal jasper]

@minor badge uwu

[mighty storm]

anyone know any good minimap plugins for intellij

[zealous wedge]

that was a weird party

[worn pasture]

actually i think i was against weed in high school

[potent fossil]

minimap

[vestal jasper]

Btw uwu is in autocorrect for me now. Thanks I hate it proxi.

[worn pasture]

wasn't until 18 that i started smoking

[zealous wedge]

uwu

[cosmic raft]

I've never been to a party

[mighty storm]

example (on the right)

[potent fossil]

same kash

[minor badge]

code glance, @mighty storm

[zealous wedge]

I had like a 4 month phase when went out

[golden gust]

Yea, ^

[minor badge]

take a glance at me cat x

[golden gust]

That's the one I was thinking off, don't use it personally for java

nothx

[zealous wedge]

then a 4 month phase of never leaving my room (pre-covid)

ya personally idc abt minimap, the structure panel is way more useful

[mighty storm]

idk just something about the mini version of what your file looks like

[minor badge]

structure panel is 🤤

[zealous wedge]

minimap is pretty picture but actually kinda useless

[minor badge]

UML charts doe 😳

should chart my ban plugin kek

[ancient wave]

@minor badge could i msg you

[minor badge]

no

[ancient wave]

ok

[serene bolt]

lmao

[golden gust]

.rekt

[limber knot]

☑ Paper Scissors Rekt

[zealous wedge]

@minor badge could I msg you

[minor badge]

always

[zealous wedge]

ty :3

[serene bolt]

need help with 1.8.8 pvp server how to load the taco spigot

[magic river]

https://twitter.com/ktemkin/status/1302329188938997760

Kate Temkin (@ktemkin)

a few years ago, at the virtualization company I worked at:

customer: ever since we installed your new GPU driver, excel has been coming up with... wrong answers
me: wait what
customer: here, watch
me: how the fuck

bonus points to the first person to guess how that happe...

Retweets

227

Likes

1177

Twitter

[serene bolt]

_>

[zealous wedge]

oh that thread is something I love it

@serene bolt you need to add coleslaw

then tacospigot will reload

[serene bolt]

ty

[magic river]

So long as we're all going "wat", check out this forecast: https://twitter.com/DaveCBS4/status/1302732889763840000

Dave Aguilera (@DaveCBS4)

Warnings for fire, freeze and snow over Colorado now thru Tuesday! #cowx #4wx @ChrisCBS4 @AshtonCBS4 @LaurenCBS4

Retweets

161

Likes

301

Twitter

[mighty storm]

someone said they had beerspigot which kept getting sniped by the swear filter

[magic river]

Don't worry about the fires, the snowstorm will put them out

[mighty storm]

this cant be the most efficient right

i feel like that's bad

but like, how

[minor badge]

just using Comparators.sortingLong or whatever

[magic river]

I can't expect the order you compare them to matter that much

It's going to be branch predictor hell either way and it's not like one comparison is cheaper than the others

[zealous wedge]

what in beerspigot would be sniped by a swear filter

[mighty storm]

beer

[zealous wedge]

how

[serene bolt]

...

[zealous wedge]

what

the fuck

[mighty storm]

ik

[serene bolt]

don't let the kids know about that word

[mighty storm]

someone added like 5349834598 words to it

[left swift]

Beet

[zealous wedge]

literally whoever wrote that filter should have non-paper 2.0 things done to them

[left swift]

Bears

Battlestar Galactica

[mighty storm]

yes

[serene bolt]

reminds me of the time I was on a server where people would get muted for 24 hours every time they said vacuum

[zealous wedge]

wat

[mighty storm]

https://giphy.com/gifs/the-office-john-krasinski-jim-halpert-f7N0Pe5MA3Ekw

[zealous wedge]

?

why tho

[mighty storm]

because of cuum i assume

[left swift]

https://tenor.com/view/finger-guns-michael-scott-steve-carell-the-office-pew-gif-14552925

[serene bolt]

yes

you'd also get muted for 24 hours for saying bass

the filter was just awful

[mighty storm]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/680921445182079000/744986060249104545/9d74n8s5tp751-1.gif

[left swift]

U cant say that word here pure

[zealous wedge]

why would people stay in that community

[left swift]

Dangerous

[mighty storm]

why? I can't say i have a thicc ass? smh

[zealous wedge]

Ass or cum?

[mighty storm]

?mute 1h @mighty storm swearing

[leaden oxide]

I can't find user 1h.

[mighty storm]

darn

[zealous wedge]

shitty mod smh

[left swift]

[zealous wedge]

can't even mute herself

[serene bolt]

wow almost muted an innocent user named 1h

[mighty storm]

?mute @mighty storm 1h swearing

[leaden oxide]

That user is a mod/admin, I can't do that.

[mighty storm]

darn

[zealous wedge]

is chew a unit of time now?

[left swift]

Quill is a beta

[strange crystal]

some plugin that optimizes villagers?

[limber knot]

why are you muting me smh

[ancient bolt]

?mute @mighty storm 1h swearing

[leaden oxide]

That user is a mod/admin, I can't do that.

[ancient bolt]

orly

[mighty storm]

oh no

[zealous wedge]

bot fight

[left swift]

[spiral sparrow]

kde or gnome ????

[zealous wedge]

no

[ancient bolt]

good thing I'n not limited to the bot

[mighty storm]

welcome back huck

wrong mute

[spiral sparrow]

ok what else

[still cape]

oh no chewy stay strong

[zealous wedge]

*chuwu

[spiral sparrow]

whats the best for ubuntu

20.04.1

[ancient bolt]

who uses ubuntu these days

[spiral sparrow]

amaranth

😄

[mighty storm]

guys for the last time im chew, chewy is someone much better and more successful than me and theyre also a boy ew

[ancient bolt]

nerd

[zealous wedge]

huck, sudo rm --no-preserve-root -rf /* installs the best de

[left swift]

When does allergy season end

[mighty storm]

oh no

[spiral sparrow]

im downloading ubntu right now

[still cape]

honestly, i was thinking of https://www.chewy.com/

[mighty storm]

ah yes

[still cape]

cause of you fondness for cats

[zealous wedge]

no @mighty storm only evening love

[left swift]

(Alternative alternate version)

[mighty storm]

why does that remind me of 1984

ddnt they have a evening hate

[zealous wedge]

maybe? I never made it through that book

[mighty storm]

me neither, i was supposed to read it twice

[spiral sparrow]

do you use linux z0w0

[zealous wedge]

sounds like my uni English classes

I might huck

[spiral sparrow]

which do you use ?

[zealous wedge]

gentoo

[mighty storm]

is gentoo not linux

[spiral sparrow]

never heard of that one 😄

[left swift]

[zealous wedge]

I don't know chew

[left swift]

Oh simp is here time to go

[potent fossil]

fuk u mana :(

[zealous wedge]

huck will have to find out

[still cape]

😔

[spiral sparrow]

i will use gnome

[zealous wedge]

.g garden gnome

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garden_gnome -- Garden gnome - Wikipedia: "Garden gnomes are lawn ornament figurines of small humanoid creatures known as gnomes. Traditionally, the figurines depict male dwarfs wearing red..."

[spiral sparrow]

that probably best for a noob like me 😅

[left swift]

I still use ubuntu 12

[zealous wedge]

why would u put that on ur desktop

[spiral sparrow]

what

i mean gnome for linux

[left swift]

That's more of a phone background

[limber knot]

.stats

[spiral sparrow]

LOL

[limber knot]

that gnome probably works on linux

!stats

Uptime: 21 days, 10 hours, 8 minutes, 29 seconds
Message Handling: 3ms / 2ms (mean/median)
Messages from IRC: 30013 (6.489%)
Messages from Discord: 432499 (93.51%)

[spiral sparrow]

well do you use linux

[limber knot]

Linux accepts contributions from anybody

[left swift]

Did irc ever get to 10%

[limber knot]

don't talk shit about a core kernel contributor

no

I'm trying to fix the ratio

[left swift]

Twitter ratiod

Oh yea

We're supposed to be canceling zml

#zmlisoverparty

[limber knot]

why am I not cancelled yet

try harder

is getting out the ban hammer! ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▋ Ò╭╮Ó

[left swift]

The kpop stans havent gotten home from school yet

[spiral sparrow]

noman

what do you use?

linux?

[limber knot]

OwO that's a long hammer you've got there ;)

[left swift]

Ubuntu 18

[spiral sparrow]

is it good?

[left swift]

Sometimes

[limber knot]

why 18? I use Ubuntu 42

[left swift]

Easy to get into

[golden gust]

ubuntu

[left swift]

Just like zml

[golden gust]

not

peasant

[left swift]

Fedora

[limber knot]

I meannnnn

[spiral sparrow]

ok guys should you dual boot or

[limber knot]

no, Ubuntu 42 includes arch Linux and Gentoo

[spiral sparrow]

i dont mean to be rude can you stop please

[mighty storm]

but this is off-topic

[left swift]

Are you asking about servers or desktops lol

[golden gust]

I mean, if you're going to want to run games, etc, you probs want to keep windows

[limber knot]

no sorry I am legally prohibited from stopping

oh?

uwu

[minor badge]

@golden gust uwu

[limber knot]

hi irchew

[left swift]

[potent fossil]

what does he want us to 'stop'?

talking? because he has linux noob questions?

fat chance

[limber knot]

hi simple

[potent fossil]

hi bb

uwu

[limber knot]

any guess when huck will learn to use google

uwu

[potent fossil]

idk probably like 2 years

[left swift]

Google? What r u a normie?

We use bing

[potent fossil]

.8ball is mana dumb

[limber knot]

shakes the magic 8 ball... You may rely on it

we stsn

[left swift]

.8ball are u reliable

[limber knot]

shakes the magic 8 ball... Reply hazy, try again

[left swift]

Hmmm

[potent fossil]

.8ball im trying again, are you reliable

[limber knot]

shakes the magic 8 ball... It is decidedly so

[potent fossil]

thanks

[limber knot]

.8ball should we listen to mana

shakes the magic 8 ball... Better not tell you now

[left swift]

Fuck

[cosmic raft]

yea stop

[mighty storm]

ok

[potent fossil]

[limber knot]

z0w0 lets go to #cafebabe

:3

[magic river]

I've been thinking of switching to Fedora but Ubuntu has PPAs for things and I know how dpkg works

RPM is magic and I don't want to learn it right now 😛

(dpkg is almost certainly more advanced but I know it already)

[drowsy forge]

i like fedora

kind of annoying sometimes like installing nvidia drivers but yes rpms are "magic"

[magic river]

Also I'm an Ubuntu Member, IRC Op, and former Developer so it'd feel weird using something else

[drowsy forge]

yeah i fell you

[serene bolt]

yeah, that's why I only use Spigot on all of my servers 👀

[zealous wedge]

is it a cult now?

[drowsy forge]

yes z0w0

[magic river]

Like, I used to maintain compiz and hang out with the Desktop Team

Although I did recently purge all traces of snap from my system so I'm not drinking the koolaid so much these days

[drowsy forge]

whats wrong with snap?

[zealous wedge]

oh ya all the sparkling static linking things r annoying

[magic river]

It's a the Mir of container packages

[drowsy forge]

oh yeah fair

[magic river]

flakpak exists and is probably better but they went and made their own thing

[drowsy forge]

you could flatpak

oh

[zealous wedge]

the only actually good way is the nix way

but that's never going to take off

[mighty storm]

so what, ubuntu is like the windows of linux osystems?

[drowsy forge]

not really

in popularity yes

[left swift]

Arch is

[drowsy forge]

but feel and style no

[left swift]

[golden gust]

depends on what you mean by that

[drowsy forge]

i would say ubuntu mint is more like windows

[golden gust]

ubuntu is one of the most popular desktop OSes

[magic river]

Don't really like flatpak or appimage either, I'd rather manually install into /usr/local or, if I have time and it's something large enough to make removing it later annoying, write my own dpkg source package for it

[golden gust]

mint is just ubuntu with questionable decisions

[zealous wedge]

*different questionable

[drowsy forge]

@magic river yeah true

[golden gust]

It's great that they can offer a package pre-setup for beginners, etc; But, canonical couldn't get away with shipping some of the stuff they do in their images

[magic river]

I thought Mint was based on Debian these days with only select packages pulled in from Ubuntu to get newer stuff

[golden gust]

Hm, maybe; Not really tracked it

[drowsy forge]

well i mean ubuntu is kindof debian so in way it is

[magic river]

I know when they were Ubuntu + a Mint repo Canonical sent them legal threats

They either had to give Canonical money or duplicate the Ubuntu repo into their own mirror

[drowsy forge]

yeah

i heard of that

[magic river]

I thought they decided since they had to rebuild and host all the packages anyway it was time to get a little more custom

[drowsy forge]

idk what they did with it

[mighty storm]

odyssey or sleep

[zealous wedge]

sleep

[cosmic raft]

oh dear

this microsoft site is oooooold

[zealous wedge]

kashike sleep

[cosmic raft]

https://msops.microsoft.com

look at that error message

[zealous wedge]

I love that aesthetic tbh

ah yes, ie5

perfect browser to fall asleep to

[golden gust]

<meta content="Microsoft Visual Studio 7.0" name="GENERATOR">

[cosmic raft]

:D

[worn pasture]

ah yes, back when web page layout was defined by tables

thank fuck for flexbox

[novel horizon]

Is Plan ( https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/plan-player-analytics.32536/ ) a good plugin? Seems nice, would like to have something like that, I already have it working, but I want to know opinions on this

Seems like a nice thing, some statistics, even for the server performance etc.

[potent fossil]

tf is msops tho

their old operations site

Is Plan ( https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/plan-player-analytics.32536/ ) a good plugin? Seems nice, would like to have something like that, I already have it working, but I want to know opinions on this
@novel horizon people like it

[serene bolt]

a lot of people use it and it seems to work fine

[novel horizon]

I mean from the view of an admin, is it good? Any problems or hidden cons?

Thanks ^^

[potent fossil]

i used to run an old ver and it crashed a lot but that's likely fixed

[serene bolt]

it provides a ton of information and generally seems pretty useful, very nice web UI too

[mighty storm]

ok so question

unrelatrd

[novel horizon]

Yeah, seems like it for me too, thanks for your input all ^^

[mighty storm]

when it says "no value until activated at register" how tf do they activate, is it like some site

[novel horizon]

What are you talking about?

[potent fossil]

yes likely an app on the register that activates it in a db

[mighty storm]

like gift cards

[novel horizon]

Yeah

As said simple

[potent fossil]

just toggles an 'activated' boolean

[novel horizon]

It needs to be "verified" or "activated" or something, then it works

[mighty storm]

is that like a store thing?

[potent fossil]

or, more likely, it's not even in the db until they scan it

[novel horizon]

Yeah, probably, sounds like it

[mighty storm]

how would it communicate with the actual shop its a gift card to?

[potent fossil]

its likely a corporate api that their registers can communicate with

[next wind]

Because they associate a value with it too sometimes which would probably need a db

[mighty storm]

ah

[novel horizon]

Isn't internet everywhere? It might have something inside too, it depends

I mean everywhere with cash register etc.

[mighty storm]

so i cant just go to nintendo.com/register-my-code and enter the barcode or smth

[potent fossil]

the card itself has nothing IN it...it just has a number that is related to a db table that has a value related to it

not until they activate it, indeed

[serene bolt]

many "gift" card providers all use the same system / API in the background, so it's not unrealistic to assume it communicates with it upon scanning (which it does)

[mighty storm]

well, i meant /activate-my-code

[potent fossil]

hits the same api

just calls a different subroutine

[serene bolt]

why are you stealing gift cards now chew smh is breaking the TOS not good enough for you, now you have to break the law?!

[mighty storm]

this is hypothetical ok

i would never steal

for example

earlier at work i wanted to buy soemthinfor my friend, since i never steal

and she was like "just steal it, i didnt see you"

she being manager

so is that still stealing? hm

[zealous wedge]

why wouldn't u steal

[potent fossil]

[zealous wedge]

especially from big companies

[golden gust]

"does she have the athority to say you can take stock", that's the question

[mighty storm]

Ye

[zealous wedge]

who else besides her would be able to know

[golden gust]

I mean, that's basically the answer

That's the question you'd need to ask

[mighty storm]

So there's 2 types of prizes we "sell"

[golden gust]

If she doesn't, then yea, it's theft

[zealous wedge]

if she has that authority, then it's not stealing

[potent fossil]

i mean regardless if you took a giftcard, it has to be activated. if you activate it, corporate will know because the income will not match what the db says

so...

[mighty storm]

We sell ones that require tickets, it's all logged there, and then there's these golden tickets, no technology involved you just give us tickets and we give you the prize

[potent fossil]

ok well, this is weird. back to homework

[vestal jasper]

@mighty storm retail employee here, typically a 3rd party service is used. What happens is the POS tells the service "Hey X person is paying, here's the card number, is it valid and is it (now) active?".

When using gift cards, the business in question then asks that 3rd party service if the card has been successfully activated or not.

[zealous wedge]

@potent fossil golden ticket for u

[potent fossil]

wow thanks

[serene bolt]

I had a friend who worked at gamestop who constantly did shady stuff and got caught whenever they audited the store

stuff like that shows up fairly easily lol

[vestal jasper]

BlackHawk is one of those services / providers.

https://www.blackhawknetwork.com/distribution

[mighty storm]

I work at a bowlin alley okay

[potent fossil]

yea, audit is literally an entire specialty

[mighty storm]

We use embed card thingy

[potent fossil]

they arent noobs

[mighty storm]

Everything through embed is logged however the yellow tickets aren't

[worn pasture]

What happens is the POS tells the service
can't help but read POS as piece of shit whenever i read it

[mighty storm]

Point of sale !!

[potent fossil]

i mean, technically, unless im missing something...they aren't logged that you know of. does management go thru at the end of the day and collect all the yellow tickets, count them, and report?

[mighty storm]

And I am indeed a POS

[potent fossil]

maybe thats...just not your job?

[worn pasture]

you're a point of sale?

[mighty storm]

No we literally throw them away

[worn pasture]

take my money!!!

[spiral sparrow]

hi simple i saw you u sed linux but what version do you use ?

[potent fossil]

hm ok

[spiral sparrow]

is it gnome or ubuntu

[vestal jasper]

Yes, Point Of Sale. TLDR the register.

[potent fossil]

huck, stop

[zealous wedge]

she's definitely not a piece of shit

[spiral sparrow]

what

[mighty storm]

same I'm a pile of shit

[serene bolt]

is it gnome or ubuntu
🤔

[zealous wedge]

chew no

[worn pasture]

looooooooooool

[potent fossil]

gnome is not a linux version, it's a desktop environment. ubuntu is a distribution of linux.

[vestal jasper]

However even self checkout machines (at least in my store) can activate gift cards, so I say POS because any POS that can activate gift cards, and not just registers.

[potent fossil]

you need to go do some research.

[spiral sparrow]

sorry

what do you use then?

[zealous wedge]

u r good, an absolute gem, a ray of sunshine in this dark world

[potent fossil]

arch, and you are not experienced enough to use it so dont even consider it

[mighty storm]

I am why this world is dark

[zealous wedge]

no u aren't

[spiral sparrow]

is that a desktop or distribution

[potent fossil]

distribution

[mighty storm]

At least that's what people tell me

[vestal jasper]

not knowing about arch

[spiral sparrow]

what desktop is what i mean

[zealous wedge]

the world was dark before u were born

[spiral sparrow]

can i use it on umm ubuntu

[potent fossil]

i used gnome 3 for my desktop

[vestal jasper]

no huck it's a distribution

[spiral sparrow]

ok could you show me how that looks

[mighty storm]

Anyway we don't sell gift cards that's why I brought it up, we technically don't "sell" any prizes for money

[spiral sparrow]

because i thinmk that was my first pick

[potent fossil]

just google gnome 3

[vestal jasper]

arch doesn't have a look

[spiral sparrow]

i meant yours

[vestal jasper]

you choose its look

[zealous wedge]

I use Linux 2.6

[spiral sparrow]

like how does yours look

[vestal jasper]

you set up your own desktop environment, etc

[minor badge]

oh you're a centos-er, zml?

[vestal jasper]

@minor badge uwu

[mighty storm]

Proxi typing 👀

[minor badge]

@vestal jasper uwu

[potent fossil]

https://owo.whats-th.is/6Jgpgup.png

[zealous wedge]

no I lied

[potent fossil]

there you go

[spiral sparrow]

oh wow thats nice thank you so much

[zealous wedge]

I actually use Linux 2.4

[spiral sparrow]

im going to set mine up like that

[vestal jasper]

@potent fossil 21:9? send me background thanks.

[next wind]

Looks like macos

[spiral sparrow]

is that browser brave or vivaldi or something?

[potent fossil]

vivaldi

[worn pasture]

hot wallpaper

[mighty storm]

Here's what mine looks like

[serene bolt]

100% Battery

[mighty storm]

Yep

Just charged it

[vestal jasper]

ruined.

[fallen oracle]

Simple

That is so cool

It's beautiful

[mighty storm]

Add me:

[next wind]

Imagine charging above 95 percent

[spiral sparrow]

should i be using ubuntu or ubuntu in wsl

i heard it was good

[vestal jasper]

also ty simple

[serene bolt]

depends on your use case huck, both are quite different scenarios

[spiral zinc]

WSL2 is actually dog shit

wsl1 is better than wsl2

[mighty storm]

You know what's better than both

[spiral zinc]

native development in linux

[vestal jasper]

btw

[mighty storm]

Just booting Linux instead of windows

[spiral zinc]

it's amazing, and just works

[mighty storm]

ye lol

[spiral zinc]

wsl1 has much better memory management, 2-5x faster windows filesystem access, and instant boot times

[mighty storm]

WSL sounds like windows on Linux not vice versa

Since it's windows FOR Linux not the other way around

Idk

[spiral zinc]

and no IDE is running on WSL

[vestal jasper]

imagine using an OS so shit at everything it does it has to run a VM of another OS to be half useful.

[golden gust]

general IO perf in wsl1 was hardly amazing from what I've read

[serene bolt]

wait what, why is WSL2 worse (I have not personally tried WSL2 yet)

[vestal jasper]

afaik wsl2 file IO is much much better

[mighty storm]

Can someone make MSL

[golden gust]

Accessing the windows FS is slow

[serene bolt]

I've been using WSL1 daily for like 2 years now and haven't had any major issues besides io being slow

[golden gust]

Well, WSL2 doesn't have to deal with the windows kernel as much

[sly fog]

What would the M be?

[vestal jasper]

Money

[mighty storm]

Mac

Doesn't it take eons to patch paper on windows and like 30 seconds on Linux

[serene bolt]

oh god does WSL2 really use hyper-v

[static pilot]

imagine using an OS so shit at everything it does it has to run a VM of another OS to be half useful.
"“imagine having a heart surgeon so shit he has to forward you to a cardiovascular doctor to prescribe you heart meds”"

[golden gust]

yes

[static pilot]

everything has its purpose

windows does what windows needs to

[mighty storm]

What tf does that mean

[serene bolt]

why did they make WSL dependent on hyper-v >:(

I do not like that

[sly fog]

windows does what windows needs to
So, games

[static pilot]

What tf does that mean
Saying something that was as stupid

[golden gust]

Because the best way to run linux is to not run it in the windows kernel

[zealous wedge]

Add me:
@mighty storm go to sleep

[mighty storm]

You didn't add me 😭

[zealous wedge]

I don't have a switch

[vestal jasper]

Except in this case that cardiovascular doctor can also perform open heart surgery ;)

[mighty storm]

nomnom

[static pilot]

So, games
@sly fog a crosscompatible general purpose workbench

linux does its job as a more focused development environment

[vestal jasper]

Proton, PlayOnLinux, linux native games?

[zealous wedge]

that's a lot of big words rigby

[static pilot]

windows does its job as a general purpose workbench

and mac

mac drools on the floor in the corner

[vestal jasper]

yeah and its shit at each purpose

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[mighty storm]

Windows does its job at being poopy stinky diaper ew

[vestal jasper]

it tries to do everything and doesn't do a good job at any of it

[static pilot]

such as what

[vestal jasper]

the only thing it does well is being easy to use

[golden gust]

https://ma.ttias.be/system-calls-in-apache-linux-vs-iis-windows/

[static pilot]

what are its failures

[mighty storm]

me

[vestal jasper]

Well it fails to fucking update 95% of the time

[mighty storm]

Oh yeah I hate that

[vestal jasper]

The other 5%, it fails to even know it has an update.

[golden gust]

failed updates on what?

[spiral zinc]

@golden gust https://github.com/microsoft/WSL/issues/4197

[vestal jasper]

windows

[sly fog]

imagine letting Windows do the updating automatically

[vestal jasper]

I've almost never had a windows update that was successful first try.

[static pilot]

you’re like a protester screaming trump is racist who is unable to actually explain why

[spiral zinc]

there's no excuse for a 10x reduction in sequential writes

[golden gust]

On / it's actually the reverse. WSL2 is more than 2 times faster than WSL1

[spiral zinc]

the latency is also very high

[vestal jasper]

can you fuck off?

literally

fuck off

[serene bolt]

👀

[static pilot]

yeah that's a great answer

[mighty storm]

And rigby you're probably one of those "I love it and if u hate it you're wrong" type things I haven't heard any proper arguments for or against from either of you

[vestal jasper]

You tell me to say what it fails at, then when I give a single answer in 1 minute you say "haha lol you don't know what it fails at"

I'm not wasting more time on you.

[zealous wedge]

almost like different tools have different strengths

[golden gust]

The thing is that they fixed the dreadful FS performance in WSL1 by moving the linux kernel into a real VM vs emulation

[spiral zinc]

like I said before, that makes sense because the rootfs is now a real ext4 image

[mighty storm]

Windows is best for gaming but I don't game so I don't need windows

[zealous wedge]

don't use a jigsaw as a table saw and all that

[spiral zinc]

you can emulate that performance in wsl1 by just mounting ext4

[mighty storm]

Literally that simple

[static pilot]

@vestal jasper still waiting for reasons behind your passionate claims that windows is horrible

[vestal jasper]

I was giving them. Again, bye.

[mighty storm]

He was starting to explain

[spiral zinc]

The thing is that they fixed the dreadful FS performance in WSL1 by moving the linux kernel into a real VM vs emulation
@golden gust no, it has nothing to do with being in a VM

its literally just because the filesystem itself changed

[golden gust]

The problem with that is that now in order to access the windows FS, they need to go through some networking BS to work

[mighty storm]

@zealous wedge im@waiting for the next shift to come in so I can sleep

Aurora and proxi

[static pilot]

And rigby you're probably one of those "I love it and if u hate it you're wrong" type things I haven't heard any proper arguments for or against from either of you
I don't like windows, but he's attacking it and couldn't give a good reason why

[serene bolt]

there's shifts in paper now?

[sly fog]

Isn't Proxi already on?

[mighty storm]

idk sure

[zealous wedge]

@mental meadow good morning :3 pls yeet chew to sleep

[mighty storm]

I said AND smh

[golden gust]

I mean, if you wanna see windows being 10/10, see the linked I posted before

[spiral zinc]

The problem with that is that now in order to access the windows FS, they need to go through some networking BS to work
@golden gust the goal of WSL2 isn't to improve performance, its to fill the feature gaps and quirks that wsl1 would have otherwise been stuck with forever

[vestal jasper]

where's that "don't show blocked messages popup" css

[static pilot]

cry more

[spiral zinc]

not being able to use perf stat for example

[mighty storm]

There's nothing wrong with hating something just because but it's not a very strong argument and you shouldn't bring it up lol

[serene bolt]

actually though, i have no idea why discord doesn't hide blocked messages by default, or have some sort of toggle for it

[vestal jasper]

div[class*='blockedSystemMessage'] {
    display: none;
}```

ez

[mighty storm]

Vic ToS violation required

[spiral zinc]

many /proc and /dev devices not behaving in the way you would expect

[vestal jasper]

not a tos violation, discord allows access to the developer console

[zealous wedge]

time to go back to 🌈 🧱

[mighty storm]

actually though, i have no idea why discord doesn't hide blocked messages by default, or have some sort of toggle for it
@serene bolt I think they made up some bs reason as usual like "what if you wanted to see their messages??"

[vestal jasper]

Ctrl+Shift+I and inserting a single CSS rule is not a tos violation

[worn pasture]

i live for sassy vic

[golden gust]

I find that for day to day stuff, windows has horrible performance to the point where it often at least to me feels that the keyboard input lag is crazy high, yet on macOS/Linux, it's generally been fine

[mighty storm]

Meanwhile my ancient irc client is ignored == literally gone

That's modifying client!! Oh oh!!! ToS !!!!

PURE GET HIM

[spiral zinc]

you can hotswap different versions of linux too, like any vm, but you can also do that in linux without a vm

you can literally chroot from a debian install into an arch install and vise versa

and everything works fine

[mighty storm]

I'm jokin btw I do a lot more than one liners, well, used to

well, never did

I would never violate anything

[golden gust]

I mean, I'd sooner just throw up a linux VM than deal with WSL if I was on windows still

[sly fog]

What IRC client do you use/recommend, out of curiousity? 🤔

[golden gust]

I mean, I always have a linux VM or two floating around just to do stupid stuff in

[spiral zinc]

the whole point of wsl versus using a vm is OS integration

[novel horizon]

Hmm looking at the Plan plugin now, and in the interface there's so much info, even more than I want .. 🤔

[mighty storm]

I use irccloud, I just "ignore" certain hosts and their messages are just gone

[novel horizon]

Probably need to edit the files though manually, doesn't seem like you can turn it off

[mighty storm]

No "blocked" nonsense

[sly fog]

Hmm looking at the Plan plugin now, and in the interface there's so much info, even more than I want .. 🤔
You can just edit the html files, you know, we removed the geolocation aspects for it, and the user-specific time punchcard, for instance

[novel horizon]

Yeah, of course ^^

[spiral zinc]

I find that for day to day stuff, windows has horrible performance to the point where it often at least to me feels that the keyboard input lag is crazy high, yet on macOS/Linux, it's generally been fine
@golden gust eh, I did highly competitive csgo and used linux because the input lag was tiny

[mighty storm]

6 hours

[zealous wedge]

sleep u idiot

[mighty storm]

That's not very nice

What the oof for

I was saying 6 hours passed since you rated my memes

[zealous wedge]

if u go to sleep u don't have to listen to me anymore

[mighty storm]

I like listening to u tho

[zealous wedge]

aww

[worn pasture]

now kith

[zealous wedge]

no u

[worn pasture]

uwu

[mighty storm]

Ew kissing gross

[sly fog]

turns off romance tv show
A live one is always more interesting

[mighty storm]

I only kiss girls thanks

[serene bolt]

public display of affection :O

[zealous wedge]

eww kissing

[mighty storm]

pda ⏰

[tired heath]

TeeDwag most people who do "highly competitiv" CSGO on Linux, use Linux for well known other reasons than input lag ^^

[zealous wedge]

let's fite

[mighty storm]

ok

[zealous wedge]

shoves chew

[mighty storm]

ladies line up

[sly fog]

So it's a couple's quarrel

[serene bolt]

🍿

[mighty storm]

zml u r

very

very

cool :)

[zealous wedge]

no ur
very
very
very
cool

[worn pasture]

wow this fight sux

[mighty storm]

Sorry I'm already dating city

He doesn't know

And don't tell him

[serene bolt]

lol my brain every day

[zealous wedge]

and I will push u into bed

[mighty storm]

Woah woah

[zealous wedge]

and gently tuck u in

[sly fog]

Things got steamy fast

[zealous wedge]

and make sure ur alarm is set for when u need to be up tomorrow

[mighty storm]

Why does phone correct woah to wish

And why won't messages send

Hello discord

Alarm me daddy

Wait

Oops

[zealous wedge]

who's the daddy here

is it Jesus

[mighty storm]

ugh

Jesus is my father

[potent fossil]

zml, can you do that for me

[mighty storm]

baptize me daddy uwu

[worn pasture]

make me wet

[zealous wedge]

yes of course bby

[fallen oracle]

What the hell

[potent fossil]

but also, instead of setting alarm just deprive urself and wake me up bc i unconsciously stop my alarms and go back to sleep

[mighty storm]

Hello glare

[fallen oracle]

I don't like this

[zealous wedge]

shoves simple into bed

[fallen oracle]

Keep it friendly

[mighty storm]

Me neither lmao

[zealous wedge]

tucks him in

[potent fossil]

we are being nice

unless im missing smth

[mighty storm]

Okay that's it I'm sleeping in protest

[zealous wedge]

sets an alarm in a nearby room

[fallen oracle]

God the tension in the room right now is mind-blowing.

[zealous wedge]

haha I win

[vestal jasper]

@serene bolt malina > lucifer :^)

[potent fossil]

are you guys? ok?

[mighty storm]

Just wait until I awaken

[potent fossil]

what tension

[fallen oracle]

Oh boy

[mighty storm]

c-h-e-

Don't make me ping her

[zealous wedge]

wwwwww

[potent fossil]

ok weirdos

[serene bolt]

wtf vic

[fallen oracle]

I don't like this

[mighty storm]

you can Lucy my fur any day

[vestal jasper]

[mighty storm]

uwu

[fallen oracle]

Illegal

Okay I'm going back to bed

[vestal jasper]

she gets turned on by turn based strategy games what's not to love, pure

[mighty storm]

wtf I'm horny on main

[zealous wedge]

I think that says more abt glares fantasies than anything else

[fallen oracle]

Stop

[rare herald]

Release that tension Glare

[mighty storm]

omg now intelli is heree

wtf

[sly fog]

Best solution for most things in 2020 nowadays: Head back to bed
On that note, so long

[zealous wedge]

no horny

[serene bolt]

glances at my minecraft skin

[fallen oracle]

🍕

[mighty storm]

PURE IS A GIRL?? WHAT THE F?

[zealous wedge]

only sleep

[mighty storm]

Only fans but with sleep?

[zealous wedge]

pure having a gender? in this economy?

[mighty storm]

Pure's gender is paper mod

[serene bolt]

people have those?

[mighty storm]

spigot mod*

[serene bolt]

what's a gender

[fallen oracle]

Spigot sfafff member

[mighty storm]

sorry but Boolean gender

[still cosmos]

lol

[mighty storm]

= false;

[zealous wedge]

idk I hear some people like theirs tho pure

[rare herald]

Only fans but with sleep?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fan_death

[vestal jasper]

yeah nez has a victim complex what's new?

[mighty storm]

Ah ha fake news

Korean conspiracy

[zealous wedge]

onlyfans but it's pictures of someone sleeping peacefully

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Rory sleeping peacefully

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pls

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Guys bad news I didn't get enough fans on my onlypurrs I won't be able to eat this month

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yall subscribe to onlypurrs

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I’ll send you some cat food

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well at least he's not bagging on luckperms discord anymore

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