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zealous wedge
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Rory needs pets

limber knotBOT
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e.g. gamingalthough most minecraft modding related questions seem to indeed be on stackoverflow xD

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couldn't you use one of the inbuilt dialogs for that?

potent fossil
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Also not sure if you noticed but SO actually gave you a chance to fix it. They closed it as needing fixes, so if you were to edit it you can apply for it to be reopened. If you care that much

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Otherwise, leave it

pastel pivot
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couldn't you use one of the inbuilt dialogs for that?
Will try.

potent fossil
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Yes but no support.

pastel pivot
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Also not sure if you noticed but SO actually gave you a chance to fix it. They closed it as needing fixes, so if you were to edit it you can apply for it to be reopened. If you care that much
Yes I noticed, I'm actually not sure how I should fix it. I can't paste the whole src of mc somewhere and I literally just invoke JOptionPane.showInputDialog in the World constructor.

potent fossil
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Meaning if you have problems we won't help you. They're for reference only.

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That will work on 1.8.9 -- 1.8.9 was just a client update.

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Read the warning before downloading

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That's not paper's goal

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We support latest only, sorry

quasi valley
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"all big servers"

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no, hypixel doesnt :)

waxen panther
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something something special support something something

limber knotBOT
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"all big servers" [citation needed]

potent fossil
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No need to fight over it yall, we fight in here every day

limber knotBOT
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lmao no

potent fossil
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Just plz not today

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plz

limber knotBOT
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hypixel doesn't even run minecraft

quasi valley
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google or something

potent fossil
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ok phoenix won't let it go

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naturally

quasi valley
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but know that you are hella wrong

potent fossil
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ok bye going to uwu at chew

vestal jasper
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uwu

unreal birch
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Not just wrong, hella wrong...

limber knotBOT
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because they run their own custom server with cross version supports

vestal jasper
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Ur dumb

limber knotBOT
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a multi million company is not comparable with your avarage minecraft server

quasi valley
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lol no they have 1.16 mobs, entities, everything

vestal jasper
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Have you never heard of custom built servers?

cosmic raft
quasi valley
vestal jasper
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They're quite literally the biggest network in existence they have the resources to pull off their own server impl.

potent fossil
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The short answer is Hypixel is not running paper, nor spigot, etc. None of the above. Hypixel runs their own in-house software for their server with different features cherry picked and multi-version support.

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Paper doesn't support < 1.16.2, that's the end of the story.

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Sorry.

limber knotBOT
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basically if you have the money then you can support it yourself

cosmic raft
limber knotBOT
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paper doesn't have the money so it only supports latest and maybe the previous one

cosmic raft
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not the same song, but oh well :P

vestal jasper
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Your arguments are all "I don't have proof but neither do you so I'm right"

quasi valley
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another 2009 song I see

cosmic raft
vestal jasper
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Please find better arguments

left swift
vestal jasper
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Provide proof that hypixel right now uses the 1.8 notchian server.

cosmic raft
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ah I see we're back onto the "hypixel uses 1.8!!!!" train

limber knotBOT
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I feel like one of that would be very easy to proof 👀

vestal jasper
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Sorry buddy burden of proof is in the person providing the positive claim.

limber knotBOT
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the other one impossible

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take a guess which

potent fossil
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Kash, I tried to stop them.

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But it's futile.

vestal jasper
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You're claiming it uses 1.8 and we're declining your claim.

limber knotBOT
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mods just never ban people asking for outdated support

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

vestal jasper
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Anyway I'm done provide proof or I don't reply.

potent fossil
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He's not asking for outdated support, he made an argument and I said it's not paper's goal. Then y'all started arguing about Hypixel.

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I don't think he needs to be banned, y'all just need to stfu.

limber knotBOT
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why the fuck do you care? lmao

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just don't participate in the conversation if you don't watn to?!?

potent fossil
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Ah yes, turn it on me

limber knotBOT
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nobody forces you to

cosmic raft
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yea you can all stop now

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thanks

twin lagoon
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hello kashike

potent fossil
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uwu kash

limber knotBOT
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uwu

twin lagoon
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uwu

quasi valley
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you absolute simps

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NOT YOU

vestal jasper
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Sorry buddy burden of proof is in the person providing the positive claim.

twin lagoon
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kneny 🥺

limber knotBOT
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( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

cosmic raft
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@vestal jasper I asked you to stop, now stop

quasi valley
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we've lost phoenix as well smolHands

potent fossil
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uwu kneny

cosmic raft
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join us kneny

quasi valley
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never!

twin lagoon
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kneny if you add me i'll stop uwu'ing

limber knotBOT
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I'm sorry, kenny. I'm on the zero two hype train right now ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

potent fossil
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We'll get him one day

zealous wedge
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can we get on the cat photo train @cosmic raft

unreal birch
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@void void you're obnoxious go away

vestal jasper
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Yeah I'm at work can't read every message

quasi valley
zealous wedge
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Vic photos pls

potent fossil
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If you stop uwu'ing I'll delete you from my friends list @twin lagoon

zealous wedge
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let's see Luke and Vader

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uwu

minor badge
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?kick @void void Drop the topic when told to.

twin lagoon
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you're not as important as kneny

leaden oxideBOT
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dynoSuccess Stitchie#0001 was kicked | Drop the topic when told to.

twin lagoon
potent fossil
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Excuse me

twin lagoon
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priorities

zealous wedge
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you're more important to me, simple~

potent fossil
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:c

quasi valley
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michale, how sweet of you smolFlushed

twin lagoon
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yes

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kneny add me you fucking bitch

quasi valley
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lmao

twin lagoon
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worth it

quasi valley
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hahaha

twin lagoon
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my connections have been expanded yet again

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next up is hypixel

potent fossil
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they grayed them out like they're dead

cosmic raft
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yes

golden gust
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.rekt

quasi valley
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f me

limber knotBOT
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☑ REKTacia

quasi valley
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now u can't bully me anymore Angeryhappiness

left swift
worn ember
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@latent valve doto?

zealous wedge
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@quasi valley uwu

quasi valley
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you're gonna kill me one day, zml smolHands

zealous wedge
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good

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then I can put uwu on your tombstone

potent fossil
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ill have uwu on my tombstone

worn ember
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pretty sure theres hefty fines on ruining graves

potent fossil
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"evewything is gwetting dwawk... uwu... whats..this? thews a light..."

twin lagoon
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jesus christ simple

potent fossil
quasi valley
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simple

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what happened to you smolHands

twin lagoon
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atleast do it right simple

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add more ~~

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and emojis

potent fossil
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on my tombstone

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who am i kidding by the time we die we'll have digital tombstones

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and/or graveyards will no longer be a thing

twin lagoon
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omg yes

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i want knenypat on an OLED screen on my tombstone

quasi valley
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our burnt bodies will just be uploaded into the cloud

potent fossil
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with dark theme

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theres a show about that kneny

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on amazon lol

worn ember
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2.5PetaByte a brain, idk if thats sustainable

potent fossil
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oh, fittingly, it's called Upload

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when you're close to death they upload you

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i watched 2 episodes

quasi valley
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dw, for yours it'll be closer to 1, ded

worn ember
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rood

left swift
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Uploaded ded to LTT servers

still cape
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what web hosting service would you recommend that allows adding a forum?

potent fossil
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any not trash one

left swift
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Xenforo

still cape
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...

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names please

potent fossil
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.g good webhost with php support

left swift
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Invisionpower

worn ember
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simple with the amazing advice

limber knotBOT
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left swift
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Enjin yee_fuckin_haw

potent fossil
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hostgator ain't bad, used them when i was a much younger

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#6 on that list

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they have been around for a long time

still cape
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enjin seems to be dying

quasi valley
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it hasn't been updated in 4 years

potent fossil
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i think really really bad exploits get backported, but it's rare.

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you likely get near nothing

still cape
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i was with them 5 years i still have my page up there but i'm looking for something different, i also have a domain empathyminecraft.com registered at godaddy right now that i'd like to use

potent fossil
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not useless, you just get no support. if you run 1.8, you are expected to be knowledgeable enough fix any issues you encounter

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we support 1.16.2.

golden gust
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for 1.8, we haven't touched it in years, nothing gets backported

left swift
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Doesn't godaddy have web hosting I dont remember

quasi valley
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it's still better than 1.8 Spigot tho

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fwiw

golden gust
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There are many dozen bugs in 1.8 varying from dupe issues to DoS attacks

quasi valley
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no...

latent valve
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@worn ember sure in abit tho gonna make smt to eat :3

golden gust
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No

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Literally nobody maintains 1.8

quasi valley
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literally noone sane updates 1.8 servers anymore

worn ember
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started a game already

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ok

limber knotBOT
latent valve
golden gust
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Maybe some guy somewhere has a 1.8 fork, but, really; Nobody of skill invests their time into public forks of 1.8, it's all in-house stuff these days if you really must use 1.8

left swift
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.g invisionpower

limber knotBOT
still cape
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and i don't want a forum to be the main platform we use discord for most of the chat but i would like a website that i can add like a light forum to for more permanent stuff

left swift
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Look at them empathy

quasi valley
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if you hate yourself you can use ProtocolSupport

potent fossil
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i again recommend hostgator, but as for the forum software itself xenforo is the go to these days. IP is okay...and VB just no.

limber knotBOT
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E​mp​at​hy​He​al​s: sounds like you want a CMS or wiki and not a forum if you want to use it for information not discussion

still cape
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godaddy does but i'm trying to find more options to compare as i also see they don't support easy forum integration

potent fossil
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h o s t g a t o r

still cape
quasi valley
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every single public 1.8 is

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because 1.8 is

potent fossil
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it may be it may not be, we don't care. it's not updated.

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wow, this empathy person really do be just ignoring suggestions like usual

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no point

humble falcon
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Stitchie why don't you just use the latest then use viaversion/viarewind

quasi valley
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some bad plugin

humble falcon
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allows older versions to join your new server

golden gust
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I mean, no surprises considering who the devs are

humble falcon
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so i could join with 1.7 to your 1.16.2 for example

still cape
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well i want a site that offers a page builder like the drag and drop type with modules/features like a forum and static pages to provide info about the server, add links, maybe some downloads and a gallery

golden gust
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'specially that myles guy

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God does he make some horrific stuff

potent fossil
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but he won't get his ONE POINT EIGHT PEE VEE PEE

golden gust
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I mean

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That's literally what a CMS is

quasi valley
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inb4 OCM kekwhyper

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imagine preferring 1.8

potent fossil
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@still cape hostgator hatchling plan. install wordpress with their one-click installer. get a theme. done.

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literally easiest way to do it.

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wordpress even has a forum addon

humble falcon
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1.16 is more tactical but both are ok imo

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lol you can attack from behind you know

quasi valley
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okay before this chat starts fully burning again imma go to sleep

potent fossil
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other options: drupal (more general cms, still ok), and joomla (never used)

quasi valley
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gudbai

humble falcon
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and then the guy goes the other direction

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eventually your shield breaks

left swift
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Came back after kick to keep talking about the same thing that got him kicked

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60000 iq

humble falcon
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We can just keep this on forever lol

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"1.8 pvp is just 999999 cps"

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"You just can't escape from people with better mouse than you"

heady spear
golden gust
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inb4 skript

potent fossil
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1.8 is rife with kids actually getting musculo-skeletal disorders due to the ways they have found to click harder and fast.

heady spear
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am always surprised when there's stuff on spaghet that doesn't suck

potent fossil
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Do you people know that?

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bc like, not lying

golden gust
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oh, lol

potent fossil
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actually a thing

twin lagoon
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bad packet ID, are mods in use!? No more bytes reading varint

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any idea how the fuck i debug this

humble falcon
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"Fights never end you can just use potions"

limber knotBOT
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why click if you can just use an autoclicker? thinksmart

potent fossil
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cuz that gets them banned

humble falcon
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"I'm about to die? I just throw myself a instant healing 999999 potion"

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"smh my head"

potent fossil
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they do this really unhealthy thing with their hand muscles and it causes injury

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its not pretty

golden gust
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No more bytes reading varint
It was tryna read a varint, but it was truncated before it read it; I.e. something probs screwed with it more in general, glhf

humble falcon
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says the person that apparently has infinite shields

limber knotBOT
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there's zero reason to use non-latest in a completely custom pvp mode 👀

twin lagoon
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nvm found it

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it's kneny's viaversion being bork

humble falcon
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i mean there's also protocolsupport but it blocks /reload and /stop's your server if you disable the plugin so i don't really like it

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If i wanna break my server it's my own problem lol

golden gust
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The /reload one was actually kinda needed

humble falcon
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yeah i can kinda understand that

golden gust
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There are stuff in the networking stack which can't cleanly be handled with, VV literally just boots players instead

humble falcon
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but do they really need to /stop when you disable the plugin

still cape
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i'm looking them up simple i'm also reading and replying and copying down the other suggestions, please don't be unfriendly and generalize with the "always" and "never." you started out with a sarcastic comment not even recommending one and then when you did i looked it up and appreciated it. let's be nice to one another, okay? there is already a lot going on in the world that sucks.

golden gust
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Well, yes

potent fossil
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wtf

golden gust
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Yes, there is lol

humble falcon
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Anyway stitchie just use 1.16.2 with a 1.8 pvp plugin and maybe viaversion

potent fossil
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fuck this stupid cunt always acting like this lmao

still cape
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and yes i saw the other recommendations too, thank you

golden gust
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you can literally crash any 1.8 server, unless they install mitigation for some of the issues, but, not all of them are fixed

humble falcon
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because it's the latest?

still cape
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how? nice?

golden gust
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I mean, it's basically like... "if you want support, use supported software"

humble falcon
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Y'know it's not convinient to change versions every time you wanna join a server

golden gust
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if you wanna run 1.8, we're not gonna stop you

thin hearth
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y'all like beans?

humble falcon
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cool

golden gust
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You can literally send a singular packet to a 1.8 server

potent fossil
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xenforo, invisionpower, vbulletin, joomla, wordpress, drupal, mediawiki; godaddy, hostgator, ovh vps, any vps

you have all your suggestions. dont wanna use em? dont. literally do not fucking care anymore

humble falcon
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Wait really? ( the packet thing )

golden gust
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Yes, CB has an issue with how it handles books

potent fossil
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not going to sit here and waste my time and then be patronized lmao

thin hearth
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do u know what the hell is chewbaca? like. it's a wookie but what tf is a wookie. it's like a human bear dog seal

twin lagoon
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@void void technically yes but no since most servers have plugins against them

still cape
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i apologize if i seemed patronizing, it was not my intent. thank you again for the suggestions i will follow up.

golden gust
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last I recall, the commonly installed plugin for that issue doesn't actually fix it

twin lagoon
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no

golden gust
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That bug was discovered well after 1.8

twin lagoon
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why would paper care about something that hasn't been touched in 5 years

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lol

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because it's unsupported

limber knotBOT
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they are

golden gust
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Because we don't maintain 1.8?

limber knotBOT
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mojang fixed them

humble falcon
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Well should microsoft update DOS

limber knotBOT
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in 1.9, 1.10 etc

golden gust
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That CB book one was fixed in 1.12.2

peak dirge
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because we don't like it when you are self-pretentious and insist on running a 6-year-old version of the game that we've moved on from

golden gust
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At the end of the day, we're not paid for this, we have 0 interest maintaining patches for literally every version people think we should

humble falcon
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It's not preference you're literally running the objectively worse version

twin lagoon
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lol

peak dirge
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erm

humble falcon
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what lmao

twin lagoon
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1.8 is slowly dying

left swift
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That's a real big lie

zealous wedge
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wow you are what even

golden gust
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and 1.12.2, and 1.13...

zealous wedge
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literally fuck off

peak dirge
twin lagoon
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honey bstats shows most servers being on latest versions

golden gust
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And, still; We're not paid for it; You going to pay for the dev time required?

zealous wedge
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nobody wants you here if you're just going to be annoying

limber knotBOT
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can we start auto kicking anyone who says 1.8 👀

humble falcon
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Just run the server with the plugins ffs you get the same effect but better

peak dirge
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The vast majority of Paper servers run 1.15.2 or higher.

humble falcon
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w-what

zealous wedge
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.....

humble falcon
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lmao

golden gust
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If people didn't cry as much as they did, we would have, lol

peak dirge
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@void void You obviously didn't read the text that clearly said you don't get support for 1.8.

left swift
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They already only support 1.16 and 1.15.2

twin lagoon
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of course

golden gust
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We really don't give a shit how many people use it

twin lagoon
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18k servers are still a lot of people but only a small percentage compared to the whole image

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the majority is on the latest versions though

golden gust
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We're not paid for this, we have 0 interest in supporting older software we don't use

zealous wedge
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imagine if you could read, @void void

worn ember
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just ask your question for 1.16 then apply it to 1.8 bigbrain

peak dirge
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If us repeatedly telling you that it's not supported by us enough to tell you otherwise, then I don't know what else will.

golden gust
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If you want a supported 1.8 fork, you'll have to do it yourself or pay for somebody to do it, or, heck, maybe the 1.8 servers will all work together to achieve something

left swift
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Maybe if he says the thing about hypixel again it will change everyone's minds

golden gust
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We're not forced to follow it

pastel pivot
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#general message
I just found out that JOptionPane isn't working anymore after Minecraft invokes org.lwjgl.opengl.Display.create();

golden gust
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We're literally saying we do not give a single shit about maintaing 1.8

humble falcon
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Yeah nobody cares about any other version than 1.8 people who care about it can make their paper fork lol

golden gust
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No, but you're implying that we're not supporting 1.8 because of some concept, when we've literally explained why we don't maintain 1.8

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Yes

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as we've literally said

void void
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what's going on here again

golden gust
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Are you going to pay for 1.8 support?

left swift
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Easy to guess

zealous wedge
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#general message
I just found out that JOptionPane isn't working anymore after Minecraft invokes org.lwjgl.opengl.Display.create();
@pastel pivot yeah, awt +OpenGL doesn't work

peak dirge
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Well, guys, what do y'all think about Paper 1.5.2, 1.4.7, 1.3.2, 1.2.5, 1.1, 1.0, and beta 1.7.3?

limber knotBOT
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s​to​na​r9​6: should post that info in that thread if anyone finds that via google 👀

zealous wedge
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so canyon

latent valve
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DED ping me when u done

golden gust
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No, but we invest our time into this, which could be spent on other stuff which we are paid for

peak dirge
golden gust
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You going to pay people to make up for that time investment?

humble falcon
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aaaanyway imma say this for the last time even tho it's the 3rd time: Just make the server version latest, get 1.8 pvp plugin, viaversion/viabackwards/viarewind

that way you get all the bug fixes, support, and bigger potential for people to be able to join with the extras of 1.8

zealous wedge
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go for it

golden gust
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Then go and do it, like I've told you to already

void void
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are you dumb

peak dirge
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@void void Sure, go for it. Just don't expect us to bail you out when you don't understand something.

zealous wedge
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based on your ability to read, I give you what, 5 minutes?

void void
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well congrats

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case closed

left swift
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Another AsyncFastUltimatePVPAnarchyFactionsNoLagUltimate1.8.8 fork! PogYouing

void void
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neeext

latent valve
peak dirge
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about a billion of those on MC-Market

latent valve
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how u doing mikro pp?

humble falcon
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Single guy replaces 192 contributors the fork

void void
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idk sleepy

latent valve
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so sleep then sleepy

void void
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stopped grinding sf4 for today

golden gust
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That reminds me of some other MC server project

latent valve
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Utopia

golden gust
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allegedly

green turret
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I mean, if the 1.8 community spent half as much time trying to fix the problems they have as they spend angrily defending their decision to live in the past, maybe they would get better results faster. It's a pretty good idea honestly. It would cause a healthy segregation where 1.8 folks would never have to bother the rest of us, and everyone would be happy.

latent valve
left swift
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Wat

golden gust
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There is nobody willing to update it

humble falcon
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how many is so many people

golden gust
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That's the entire fucking point of this convo

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Also, Paper is Paper

limber knotBOT
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g​ar​ba​ge​mu​le​: you mean spent more time working on fixes together instead of creating yet another copyright violating proprietary fork? ;)

peak dirge
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Because then we get people like you insisting we do updates for a version we don't care about..

golden gust
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if somebody wants to fork paper and make their own changes, than that's not really paper

humble falcon
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yes that is indeed the point

worn ember
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paper

green turret
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phoenix616 whatever gets them to shut up :P

golden gust
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The fact that it's from the paper team?

limber knotBOT
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what are names even? smh

void void
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no

golden gust
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No...

limber knotBOT
peak dirge
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Incorrect, the Paper team is very small, only around 5 people or so.

humble falcon
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Ok look, anyone can contribute to paper right?

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You can just make a Pull Request

golden gust
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To a supported branch, yes

humble falcon
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Now go to pull requests on github

limber knotBOT
humble falcon
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and count to me how many are for 1.8

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You'll get 0

golden gust
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Once again, we have 0 interest in touching 1.8

peak dirge
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It's pretty obvious that as soon as we can drop support for an old version, they'll do it at the first opportunity.

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Paper dropped all support for 1.8 in March 2016

golden gust
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So, don't even bother opening a PR for 1.8, it will just be closed and you'll be laughed at for not reading the readme

humble falcon
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oh lol

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welp that argument fell flat then

void void
zealous wedge
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but you're fracturing the communityyyyy

peak dirge
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Incorrect. Paper still, for now, supports 1.15.2, but eventually it'll get dropped.

rustic knoll
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why would they lol

zealous wedge
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basically as soon as aikar updates his server the old version is dropped

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Only Paper 1.15.2 and 1.16.2 are supported here, full stop

topaz mortar
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1.15.2 is only supported because aikar's server is running it atm. He prolly had not time for an update.

golden gust
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At the end of the day, there is literally nothing stopping people forking 1.8 and fixing issues in it, I even did it myself for a small period of time when I was working on that version for a server, but, like; From what I've seen, there is literally nobody who is actually willing to maintain 1.8 bar people who basically do service contracts and charge a ton for it

peak dirge
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I think getting 1.5 years of support for a Minecraft version is a pretty good run. This game changes a lot, and the majority of people want to play with the new content.

green turret
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@void void I don't know much about you people, but are none of you software developers? Can't you just solve whatever problems you have yourselves?

golden gust
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That's why all the large 1.8 servers have in house dev teams, because nobody else is willing to do it

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and cool, we're not going to stop you running an older version

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We're just not going to provide support or any form of patches for it

peak dirge
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2b2t is an edge case, not the common case. Just look at bStats, over half of servers run newer than 1.12.2.

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there are probably many valid reasons, we just won't care abt its issues :p

humble falcon
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2b2t has hundreds of players at the same time that's why

zealous wedge
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you've been whining for hours now

green turret
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@void void Ah okay, I can help with that: no and probably.

humble falcon
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yes

zealous wedge
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maybe

green turret
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Try and see!

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It's really the best way to find out.

void void
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run both and compare

peak dirge
#

You are beating a dead horse. Full stop: we will never support 1.8.8, and whining about it won't get you support for it. You are free to fork Paper 1.8.8 and patch it yourself, or pay someone to make fixes for you. We're not interested, most of our users move onto the new versions.

golden gust
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Nor is ours

zealous wedge
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lol

void void
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well too bad

latent valve
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cat brain is smool tho

grave oxide
#

Google exists tho bettereyes

latent valve
zealous wedge
#

your brain seems pretty close to an empty void tbh

green turret
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Mine is. But it's really barren.

golden gust
#

We don't care to document every single stupid issue over the like how many years is mc multiplayer now?

peak dirge
#

Then perhaps you can just be quiet and run a 1.16.2 server like the majority of this community does.

golden gust
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MC-4 fix wen?!

green turret
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What makes you think anyone else would?

grave oxide
#

No, to look them up thinksmart

zealous wedge
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lolllllll

limber knotBOT
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z​zz​Ca​t: purpur (and with that origami) has one

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runs

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(no idea if it's just snake oil though)

void void
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if you are not willing to put your time into testing stuff, then why do you bother running a server after all?

zealous wedge
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yatopia 1.8 wen

golden gust
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You know, with the devs ego, you might actually be able to pull that off

topaz mortar
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Stichie pay me 30.000€/h and I'll look into it.

peak dirge
#

good on you, have a cookie, then watch as your dreams crumble before reality

green turret
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I'll do it for less!

zealous wedge
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I'll do it for $250 an hour

limber knotBOT
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not even wanting one bitcoin smh

golden gust
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Don't need a book for the CB book bug

green turret
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Okay I'm not going that low

golden gust
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Just gotta send a packet

void void
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this guy literally wastes oxygen on this planet for others to breathe

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idk

twin lagoon
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why paper so tosic

humble falcon
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Don't you need creative for the CB book bug

zealous wedge
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20hr minimum

humble falcon
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maybe i'm recalling wrong

golden gust
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No, it's literally just a packet that's sent to the server, server just parses it blindly

void void
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packet

golden gust
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it's literally just an oversized book

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Go google it

void void
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your server crashes

golden gust
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No, you crash a server with it

void void
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gl

limber knotBOT
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server crashes 👀

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didn't we have someone in help just today with that exact issue? xD

peak dirge
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yes, because it's not maintained

green turret
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First you type /give and then you type the name of the item you want to dupe, and then you have two!

peak dirge
#

why would we fix an exploit in a version we don't support?

golden gust
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I literally said that it was fixed in 1.12.2 plus...

limber knotBOT
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guy was running some "async" 1.8 paper fork xD

latent valve
peak dirge
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think about it

void void
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whatever, i'm out

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time waste

green turret
#

Have a good evening mikro!

void void
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thanks garbagemule

golden gust
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am just procrastinating

peak dirge
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alright, then go fork Paper and fix it

limber knotBOT
#

mfw someone bought discord.mom but not discord.baby 👀

golden gust
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I mean, I've literally got the backported patch for it somewhere

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you're my discord daddy phoenix~

golden gust
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I don't care to look for it, but it's on GH somewhere

limber knotBOT
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( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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come on the discord client :*

golden gust
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I mean, there probably is

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But, we've fixed all the known ones, so...

humble falcon
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I found a ncp issue that mentions it, it mentions only spigot tho ( i mean the 1.8 cb book crash thingy )

peak dirge
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You can't fix what you don't know.

golden gust
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Well, yes, I'd rather there be a unknown dupe glitch rather than running a version where there are literally several dozen dupe glitches...

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and, well, when we find them, we'll patch them

limber knotBOT
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no

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paper's also good at future proofing; the piglin one was patched before it was brought to our attention :')

peak dirge
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so what

green turret
#

Fuck, there's a bug in 1.16, better never update anything ever again. That'll keep us secure! I, for one, really love how safe and secure Windows 98 is!

limber knotBOT
#

resetting to a backup once isn't an issue

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resetting every day is

twin lagoon
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StitchieToday at 23:45
most dupe glitches arent publicly known
lol

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it takes 1 person to use it on a public server before it's known

rustic knoll
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^

twin lagoon
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the last known 1.16 dupe bug was patched in 1.15

red spruce
#

Heyo! Does anyone know of a good multi-world plugin similar to multiverse-core but compatible with 1.16.2?

twin lagoon
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on any larger public server, probably

limber knotBOT
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Multiverse-Core

peak dirge
#

@green turret I personally prefer the security of Linux 0.95.

twin lagoon
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Hyperverse @red spruce

limber knotBOT
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m​ol​oc​o: there is a 1.16 branch

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as far as I can tell it works without issues

twin lagoon
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@quasi valley ur fuckin shit broke on me

cosmic raft
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@green turret WHAT? You run 98? I'm still on 95, I heard 98 changes things!

zealous wedge
#

Mac OS 9 or bust

humble falcon
#

Imagine not using DOS with MAYBE windows 3.1

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i bet some of y'all are on linux 2, wtf...

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linux 1.0 gang

peak dirge
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I'm using Altair BASIC for my next Minecraft server

zealous wedge
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Kernel 2.4 is the place

potent fossil
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uwu

green turret
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I liked that red and black isometric wallpaper in Win95. It made my eyes flicker.

humble falcon
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Imagine not using linux 0.01

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twin lagoon
humble falcon
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which is apparently real

quasi valley
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no u

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ping me again tomorrow you absolute 🐌

limber knotBOT
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runs

peak dirge
red spruce
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Phoenix, you are getting it from GitHub? Stable enough for production?

peak dirge
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But don't come to us if they don't work.

quasi valley
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apply them all and have me crash your server in 2 seconds

limber knotBOT
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m​ol​oc​o: yes, I have the 1.16 branch on my jenkins build server

green turret
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Oh he's still here

quasi valley
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now go away already please

limber knotBOT
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and nothing is "stable"

twin lagoon
#

you're right

woven otter
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@void void what the fuck is wrong with you

twin lagoon
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implying some guy will join your server

quasi valley
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no one will join true

potent fossil
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lol

humble falcon
lean kiln
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xD

twin lagoon
#

➜ uname -r
4.19.84-microsoft-standard

red spruce
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Yeah, true lol, mind sending the link phoenix?

peak dirge
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wsl n00b

twin lagoon
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how many

limber knotBOT
humble falcon
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i'm using 1337 macOS which is higher version than yours n00b

quasi valley
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just accept that you’re running an absolutely unsupported and insecure version and stop talking out of your cheeks already

green turret
#

Stitchie you're not going to convince anyone here that what you're doing is anything more positive than "silly". Just bounce, man.

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@twin lagoon michale

twin lagoon
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hello proxi

potent fossil
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i haven't used my macbook for quite a while, just sits in its case waiting for the day that i can go outside again

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woven otter
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the only thing you have enough of is your ego. even more than enough

twin lagoon
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they have

void void
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...and vacuum in your skull

twin lagoon
#

see the recent 10+ combat snapshots

humble falcon
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They have some snapshots for testing it

potent fossil
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god PLEASE can we just fucking stop

twin lagoon
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all with community feedback

green turret
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Ahahahah

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Hey simple!

potent fossil
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hey mule, how's your ass these days?

twin lagoon
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hot

green turret
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They are shipping my Narsehole next week!

quasi valley
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the average iq has just dropped into the negative

potent fossil
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HELL YEAH

twin lagoon
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"some weeks ago"

formal turret
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some weeks lol

humble falcon
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ok zoomer

cedar spade
#

ree spam click pvp best pvp

green turret
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Probably gonna take a few weeks to get to Denmark.

void void
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man this dude

formal turret
#

when was the first combat snapshot? it's been months now

peak dirge
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@void void ok boomer

void void
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wheres wiz

golden gust
#

Okay, either troll or just stupid baid

twin lagoon
#

"A custom Java Edition snapshot to test new combat mechanics" – u/jeb_ on Reddit, June 26, 2019

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hasnt it been like a year since first combat snapshot

cedar spade
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how many packets can we throw at the server pvp best pvp

potent fossil
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I need a full blog post about how the narsehole changes your life when you get it

void void
#

we need wiz back as a mod

green turret
#

But man I'm gonna be splashing my butt all day with that thing!

red spruce
#

Thanks for your help Phoenix! Should I use the "original-multiversecore" or the other one?

quasi valley
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oh hey tux that’s a nice tactic

void void
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:^)

formal turret
#

over a year wew

quasi valley
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We should all do that

peak dirge
#

wiz would've kicked this guy long ago

humble falcon
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ok but why do you care about using 1.8 so much stitchie lol

golden gust
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?ban @void void take your trolling or lack of research ability elsewhere

leaden oxideBOT
#

dynoSuccess Stitchie#0001 was banned | take your trolling or lack of research ability elsewhere

quasi valley
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@solemn silo okay boomer

potent fossil
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THANK YOU

humble falcon
#

bruh

limber knotBOT
#

m​ol​oc​o: original is without libraries, use the full one with the normal name

cedar spade
#

rip knene

woven otter
#

CAT ❤️

quasi valley
#

thanks

latent valve
left swift
#

Yay came back in time to see the banhammer

golden gust
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!ban @left swift

red spruce
#

Thank you so much!

left swift
potent fossil
#

already anyway now we can talk about buttholes

green turret
#

Okay now let's talk about the Narsehole

woven otter
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stinky simple

quasi valley
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simple you nose hole

potent fossil
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no, we are talking about cleaning buttholes with water

woven otter
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clean ur stinky butthole simple

potent fossil
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mine is clean

latent valve
potent fossil
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because i use a bidet

green turret
#

Yes!

golden gust
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just gotta get a ||scat|| queen

left swift
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Duck is the butt inspector

worn ember
golden gust
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I'm going to a horrible place

quasi valley
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I thought you already are in Britain

worn ember
#

arrays_index_at_0 bad kitty

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why is there no :constipated: emoji?

void void
#

declaw the cat

latent valve
#

DED dota?

woven otter
#

defur the cat

worn ember
#

ye

left swift
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Cat in the shat

latent valve
green turret
#

I hope the Narsehole can deliver a high pressure so it's not just a little splashing.

golden gust
#

lets just hope it's not too high pressure

left swift
#

Depends how u sit on it

golden gust
#

||some would call that an enema||

void void
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just install a pressure washer

green turret
#

Oh yeah it has to be just right.

void void
#

you'll get rid of your skin as well

woven otter
#

water cutter

humble falcon
#

Ok i just googled what an enema is and EW

potent fossil
#

no, that..is an enema. bidets are not meant to penetrate you please dont

zealous wedge
#

lol

green turret
#

My biggest concern is butt hair.

left swift
#

Shave

worn ember
#

simple knows his stuff

golden gust
#

I tried that once

twin lagoon
#

wtf apparently you can give villagers player heads to wear

golden gust
#

I've never tried again

woven otter
#

this is a shitty topic ngl

twin lagoon
green turret
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I don't think I want to shave my butt hair.

twin lagoon
#

i was so confused

potent fossil
#

yes...because bidets are the one true way to go #2 fellas

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toilet paper is so weird

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you literally rub shit onto paper and flush it

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like ???

golden gust
#

I prefer sandpaper

potent fossil
#

wyd

green turret
#

Yeah it's ridiculous!

left swift
#

Yeah that's why I just use my hand

woven otter
#

how does this chat turn to shit KEK

topaz mortar
#

Let's see if Demon can get Paperweight that far that it easily applies on snapshots. Using a Paper Combat Snapshot would be a fun thing.

potent fossil
#

just wash your ass with some water, pat dry and you're done. nobody should be against this. this is pooping evolution.

worn ember
#

simple joined @woven otter kek

green turret
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Yes!

potent fossil
#

and its not even a bad topic, we all poop ok. there is nobody on this planet who does not poop

green turret
#

Preach!

left swift
#

Everybody poops

woven otter
#

I didn't say bad I said shitty

green turret
#

Poop must be non-taboo.

limber knotBOT
#

washing your ass too often can actually hurt the skin on your butt 👀

left swift
#

Make Poop Great Again

mortal zinc
#

are there even 1.8 server devs or are they all just server owners...

limber knotBOT
#

and lead to fungus growth

potent fossil
#

not if you actually dry yourself...

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wtf you doing

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leaving it wet

golden gust
worn ember
#

simple, i bet your ass is jealous of all the shit that comes out of your mouth kek

green turret
#

We must be able to talk about poop without shame.

potent fossil
#

show me studies of a bidet causing fungus growth because that is absolute bullshit. most asian households use bidets exclusively.

woven otter
#

@mortal zinc only if you pay them enough

left swift
#

.typing

limber knotBOT
topaz mortar
#

Vector don't think so. Just drop the topic.

limber knotBOT
#

the issue isn't that it's left wet, the issue is that it gets wet, then it gets extremely dry wish when alternated to often actually hurts the quality of the skin there

worn ember
#

i also love to get my ass penetrated with water

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sounds hot

potent fossil
#

you dont fucking penetrate yourself with water

woven otter
#

just move on to latest version

potent fossil
#

it's a rinse

golden gust
#

There are devs, just, nobody cares to fork the server software and maintain it, it's purely 1:1 jobs

left swift
#

All this butt talk making me hungry

woven otter
#

what about a rinse of your intestines

potent fossil
#

i feel very strongly about washing away shit with water and killing trees solely to wipe your ass

green turret
#

Do you guys not actually wash your asses?

potent fossil
#

yea then you use a purpose built enema.

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if that's what you want

humble falcon
#

"but nobody cares for any other version than 1.8 what are you talking about!"

golden gust
#

if the community ree'ing about 1.8 actually got their asses together and put resources into it, they'd actually be solve all their so called issues; But, they don't wanna

potent fossil
#

bidet != enema.

limber knotBOT
#

why tf would you kill trees for that?!?

limber knotBOT
#

toilet paper is (if you care) 100% recycled

potent fossil
#

phoenix are you stupid? most toilet paper is not. some brands yes.

humble falcon
#

i do not want to watch that given the topic that was just being talked about and the thumbnail

potent fossil
#

that is a horrible argument.

woven otter
#

lol someone tried to shake a cock

limber knotBOT
#

wel lthey are legally banned from lying on the packaging in germany so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

potent fossil
#

ah yes, phoenix always finds a way to do the germany best argument

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and that's the end of thsi conversation

#

it devolves from here

humble falcon
#

Just say no to your robber! The robber can't legally rob you without your consent.

quasi valley
#

it true do 👀

limber knotBOT
#

I'm just saying that I can only speak for the country where I live

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I can't make some absolutist statement about everything on earth

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if it's not like that in the country where you live then it is what it is

potent fossil
#

well anyway mule, as you can see there is no logic here with regard to butts. as such, i can only wish you well with your butt cleansing journey

limber knotBOT
#

no reason to get offended by it not being the same everywhere?

green turret
#

I look forward to it!

golden gust
#

I'll shit on ur rug if u continue

humble falcon
#

hot

quasi valley
#

wow cat on it again

limber knotBOT
#

as long as you don't piss on it

quasi valley
#

the destroyer of rugs

golden gust
#

We just spray everywhere

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So, sure

quasi valley
#

Holy shit cat

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Literally

potent fossil
#

cat how are you even here btw, im pretty sure back in the irc days i threw you into a river and threw the river into space at least... 4 times

green turret
#

I'll post about my findings once I get it installed and have had a few uses.

potent fossil
#

Do share

golden gust
#

9 lives is actually an understatement, apparently

quasi valley
#

don’t share too much please

potent fossil
woven otter
#

cats are immortal

potent fossil
#

im expecting a blog post, so yes share with details

quasi valley
#

ducks aren’t got_the_duck

golden gust
#

Not to mention, that our trick is to only die once you deem our love essential, that we can just break you even as we exit

woven otter
#

@quasi valley ur upsidedown

quasi valley
#

yes

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And I embrace it !

green turret
#

Well there won't be much to share because I expect it will be completely clean and void of any shit to talk about.

woven otter
potent fossil
#

yes good

quasi valley
#

that’s the spirit, mule

woven otter
void void
#

how much 14

green turret
#

I will be simple's "corporate ally" that will help him evangelize butt hygiene. I'll be his shitty side kick.

formal turret
#

1.4%

woven otter
#

^

void void
#

in total?

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exact numbers i mean

golden gust
#

Oh, like robin and batman?

woven otter
#

2k

#

2061

void void
#

i'm contributing to that number with 14 servers woo

potent fossil
#

"ass ally"

green turret
#

Buttbin and Shatman!

topaz mortar
#

84.9% to kill.

woven otter
#

1.8.8 is at 12.5% so that's nice too

green turret
#

Fuck, maybe Buttman and Robidet is better?

void void
#

also sucks that older forge is not able to run on java 8+

zealous knot
#

1.8.8 is uwu af

void void
#

without gross hacks

topaz mortar
#

@woven otter should be 0.0%

void void
#

can newer versions even run on newer java tho? (for 1.13+ that is)

woven otter
#

sadly it's not :C

limber knotBOT
#

over half on 1.16.x is pretty insane

zealous knot
#

feenix six one six

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fuk u

limber knotBOT
green turret
#

@zealous knot

topaz mortar
#

mikro 1.16.2 can run on version up to Java 14. When removing that dumb check it runs perfectly on Java 15 EA

zealous knot
#

oof

woven otter
#

1 server is on java 16 KEK

void void
#

up to 14 you mean

topaz mortar
#

Jup, by default.

void void
#

meant also forge

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just to be clear

limber knotBOT
#

so one is on 16 but none on 15? wat

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forge works fine on java 14

void void
#

alr

mortal zinc
#

@golden gust 1.8 aside, I like how you guys even offer downloads for non-supported versions

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this community is very generous

minor badge
#

paper also has a flag to disable the check for java, in case you trust yourself on java whatever is next

topaz mortar
#

Proxy was that added by Mini?

void void
#

aware of that :p

minor badge
#

probably lol

topaz mortar
#

He removed it in Toothpick-MM. So it allows by default.

minor badge
#

f

topaz mortar
#

I'm fine with dropping all unsuported version on that site.

void void
#

reminds me i was supposed to clean up mini's changes and pull them back

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but oh well

topaz mortar
#

To late for that? Which timezone?

void void
#

i made toothpick with gradleizing the paper in mind

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it's 1:15am right now for me

minor badge
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just use paperweight by now ^^

zealous wedge
#

go to sleep mikro

void void
#

no :c

topaz mortar
#

Oh yeah, forgot that that was your base project.

void void
#

too much to do

topaz mortar
#

Thanks for adding the basement for this funny project with MojangMappings.

void void
#

np lol

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i guess it'll go into my (failed) experiments drawer

#

and i'll archive it instead

topaz mortar
#

Ok.

void void
#

also anyone here has experience with ModLauncher?

#

i'd like to get my project Orion working again (who doesn't know yet - it'll add mixin based server modding support)

#

but it's stuck on java 8 / old mixin library

#

and legacylauncher

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#

@void void 🥺

void void
#

which just fucks up every package definition

humble falcon
#

mikroskeem where are you from

#

we're apparently in the same timezone

void void
#

🇪🇪

minor badge
#

epic flag

humble falcon
#

very epic

void void
#

why so

humble falcon
#

🇹🇷 for me lol

#

idk looks cool i guess

void void
#

sure

potent fossil
#

<@&748618676189528155>

void void
#

fuck outta here retard

humble falcon
#

yeahhhhhhh ban evasion super cool lol

potent fossil
#

just, wait.

humble falcon
#

whoa they're even spamming

#

how mature

woven otter
#

retard

peak ginkgo
#

can you imagine being pressed.

potent fossil
#

<@&748618676189528155> please :)

worn ember
#

big brain

minor badge
#

?ban @void void spam

leaden oxideBOT
#

dynoSuccess Stitchie#8487 was banned | spam

humble falcon
#

ahahahah it's so funny you have no idea

potent fossil
#

thank you

minor badge
#

?purge 751092497672962159

humble falcon
#

thanks

woven otter
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Imagine being 12 years old

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tbh

humble falcon
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what's the verification level on the server btw i forgot

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was it the one where you have to wait 10 mins

cosmic raft
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none of your business

humble falcon
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lol ok

potent fossil
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yea that's not really info to share ^^

zealous wedge
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you have to pass the cat panel

humble falcon
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jeez i just asked i'm not gonna spam relax lol

void void
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you'll figure that out yourself tbh :p

potent fossil
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they're not implying YOU will, but someone else listening might

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unlink phone and rejoin to find out lol

potent fossil
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there are thousands of ppl in here

void void
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discord doesn't have very many choices

zealous wedge
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you are thousands of people

potent fossil
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yes i am a hivemind

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uwu

woven otter
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go to sleep simple

potent fossil
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no

woven otter
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yes

worn ember
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get an anti bot bot too plz

woven otter
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get an anti bot bot bot

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meh

peak ginkgo
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get an anti bot bot bot bot bot

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theres usually a mod with notifications on their phone around

potent fossil
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sorry i double pinged zed

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its fine lol

cunning raft
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there has been crypto bots scraping public servers recently

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the role exists to be pinged in such cases

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this one too, josh

golden gust
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|?ban @void void no ping random pplz kthxbai

serene bolt
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👀

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we've got like 10 crypto bans by now lol

humble falcon
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what are crypto bots what

potent fossil
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imagine if dyno was like

if (message.contains("?ban") kekw

golden gust
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No complaints here if it did

cunning raft
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had to make a bot that bans users when their first message contains "crypto" or "imgpile"

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all of the bots seem to be using a link containing "imgpile"

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odd thing is that the bots aren't leaving the server either

golden gust
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aren't they all linking to the same site and vidya?

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here its some libra impostor site

worn ember
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just block the site

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and ban anyone mentioning it

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ez

cunning raft
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yeah server im a mod on gets tesla crypto scams, libra, and eth

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at least 3 times a week now

left swift
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Lolwat

potent fossil
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server i mod gets raided constantly by dm spammers, but they all join like a week in advance so it seems inconspicuous

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we just wrote a bot to time ppl out if they dont click an emoji within 5 mins

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we're probably not going to due to people being dumb and reposting the link, ded

potent fossil
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literally all of them stopped

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stupid bots

cunning raft
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just ban crypto discussions
we insta ban users whos first message contains "crypto" or "imgpile" now

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yeah there should be a captcha for joining public servers

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tbh just softbanning people for it would work here

worn ember
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?ban @void void crypto

leaden oxideBOT
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dynoSuccess Starstone#1115 was banned | crypto

left swift
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Lmao

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U mention it and they appear

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wont for another 8-16 hrs

left swift
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Hmm maybe u have magic powers

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Talk about having a million dollars

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luckily nomana also becomes dirt poor once crypto bots strike

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and now we wait

worn ember
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i mean if you want to do this all day be my guest i suppose

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could easily automate it

potent fossil
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my fiancee is so cute

her: "plz wake me up 6am"

me: tries 6am

her: "plz 6:30am"

me: tries 6:30am

her: "plz 7am"

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🥺

left swift
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Lol

peak ginkgo
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Report Libra bots to Discord

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:D

left swift
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If I wanted to be dirt poor I would invest in crypto

peak ginkgo
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A lucky like

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20 of you might have this

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I know Glare.... might?

left swift
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Is that not something everyone has?

peak ginkgo
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It's a random rollout

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Literally like 1% of the platform

serene bolt
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just delete, no report

worn ember
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close enough

left swift
fallen oracle
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@serene bolt Yours works fine then, before you delete a message copy it's link and inside the delete modal tick "Report to Trust and Safety"

fallen oracle
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Boutta report you smh

peak ginkgo
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The report button just cuts out the middleman and writes the ticket from the client

fallen oracle
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I really like using it. Makes life easier.

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its little use to us tbh

fallen oracle
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Also allows us to report & delete the message.

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once banned, theyre not gonna come back on that account anyways

peak ginkgo
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I've noticed that most Libra accounts follow a pattern

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ex, creation time

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or names

worn ember
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train a nn to detect bots and auto ban them

peak ginkgo
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The more of them are reported the better Trust and Safety can recognize said patterns

fallen oracle
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Not public yet, zbk.

worn ember
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i remember that being there for a long time?

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i had it at one point

fallen oracle
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Gotta know the right people.

worn ember
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long ago

peak ginkgo
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I know ios has some form of it

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But it's not this one.

void void
fallen oracle
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Yeah this has never been public before

worn ember
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i dont have any ios device in my house

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lmao

void void
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i have one

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uses ios 6

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iphone 3

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unused

rose echo
serene bolt
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The pig is missing >:(

magic mesa
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It's on the hill instead

restive thicket
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Man.

mighty storm
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Impressive, They finally did it

spiral sparrow
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hello

mighty storm
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Hmm should I buy super Mario odyssey tonight or not

next wind
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yes

spiral zinc
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odyssey's fun

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what isn't worth buying is that new limited time remastered package shit they're releasing

next wind
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that looks good, but is it 60 dollars?

spiral zinc
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It's $60 and not really

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The only thing they're doing are upscaling the resolution on games you've been able to play for years

next wind
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if it was 45 or less it would actually be worth it

spiral zinc
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modders have made better ports

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sm64 isn't even going to be 1080p

next wind
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but you cant get those on switch so

spiral zinc
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right but what you can do is buy a gamecube controller

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hook the gamecube controller up to your PC

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and emulate them in 1080p60fps

next wind
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what if you dont have a pc

spiral zinc
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tough titties

mighty storm
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I'll buy the all stars for sure, guaranteed moneys worth out of it

next wind
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and a gamecube controller is like 40 dollars

spiral zinc
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then dualshock 4

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or xbox controller

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dunno

next wind
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those are like 60

mighty storm
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I don't like playing games on my computer

spiral zinc
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manufacturer produced ones are $60

mighty storm
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Messes up work life balance

next wind
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I personally like gaming on pc, but some games like mario are jsut better on console

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its more casual

spiral zinc
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I personally don't think all stars is worth the money

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They're literally just upscaling super mario galaxy and sunshine to 1080p

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super mario 64 is going to be 720p

next wind
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and thats what a collection is

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its not a remaster

mighty storm
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Usually I do $1 = 1 hour of play time to get my monies worth, and I'll guarantee pour 60 hours into it

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^