You seen that pic of the lady who was eating an octopus and it attacked her face? Haha
#general
unreal quarry
worn ember
man why do they have to eat it alive
that triggers me so much
people suffocate on them all the time cuz they get stuck in your throat
vestal jasper
In Soviet Russia...
left swift
How's the message going James
unique snow
Also regarding carbon/diamonds. Diamonds can technically be doped to conduct electricity.
worn ember
i mean, everything if conductive if you throw enough current at it
unique snow
From memory one of the elements you can use to dope it is boron. Allowing it to quickly transmit electrons due to the large band gap, and disperse heat really quickly.
dapper nacelle
that moment when you find out your api endpoints were so slow
and it turns out that the reason why a rest api should be stateless is so you dont get session locked
worn ember
https://github.com/electronicarts/CnC_Remastered_Collection they release the source code for Command and Conquer 
dapper nacelle
how did the guy in the paid video tutorials say that session authentication is fine
snow holly
fucking ovh 
fervent kite
anyone here vegan? dm me
grave oxide
worn ember
left swift
Wat lmao
vestal jasper
God I love when companies release source for "obsolete" games
Wish it happened more
cobalt surge
Your face is an obsolete game..
runs away
prime pawn
Hi hoomans
waxen panther
anyone here vegan? dm me
quasi valley
do you want people to eat you?
left swift
Anyone here? dm me
waxen panther
worn ember
hehe
prime pawn
Every time I see the word vegan
It reminds me of that time I accidentally bought those vegan snitchelz :S
worn ember
my condolences
left swift
How did it go
prime pawn
They somehow liked it but I couldn't stand it
worn ember
i love how they just try to recreate the "meat" instead of just finding alternatives
its so weird
prime pawn
Yup :/
left swift
Chemical meat is the alternative
prime pawn
Alternatives as in salads and such. Not trying to recreate meat ^
cobalt surge
Mmmmm meat
twin lagoon
worn ember
Purrr
cobalt surge
Meow
viral hornet
@twin lagoon 🥺
twin lagoon
camm 😩
waxen panther
@viral hornet 
minor badge
@twin lagoon 😳
twin lagoon
😔
minor badge
uwu
twin lagoon
uwu
latent valve
here ded https://imgur.com/a/UljZVLL
quasi valley
isn't dota just lol but for even nerdier nerds?
latent valve
LoL is for NOOBS
isnt that rite @worn ember 😛
u need a brain in dota unless u play techie cuz that u can play like a ||r|| word
worn ember
yes lol for noobs
wintry crown
hi
minor badge
@zealous wedge uwu
zealous wedge
@minor badge uwu
minor badge
woa
worn ember
hi
zealous wedge
hello better grass
viral hornet
hi zml 😄
quasi valley
ah yes camm, didn't know you were called better grass
also, I always used to call that horrible grass™️
zealous wedge
i mean i was saying hi to the mod
lambdaurora is doing a better version of it anyways :p
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/732740464503029792/738905254535495690/c2141925-a511-428c-8f83-8bf07b39bea9.png this is what you could have
quasi valley
oh the snow does actually look sexy
zealous wedge
waxen panther
Dimbass
zealous wedge
fun fact: snow irl is asymmetrical
worn ember
i dont want to hear it
quasi valley
and you're telling me that cut off green mess looks good or what? https://i.imgur.com/0n70wTx.png
smh ded
zealous wedge
it's early dev :p
quasi valley
but it's symmetrical
quasi valley
I'll give you a spiderman kiss
worn ember
wanna touch heads?
quasi valley
left swift
SymmetREEEEE
twin lagoon
kmemey
quasi valley
no
left swift
I prefer the better ass mod
worn ember
you need it
viral hornet
hi @quasi valley
viral hornet
favourite*
I'm good
Michael is cleaning up my dedi
Which is 💦
How are you Kenny
quasi valley
oulrigh' m8 I'm just gonna colour my favourite armour in honour of unhumourous labour
spice finch
oulright*
queen swift
also, I always used to call that horrible grass™️
@quasi valley FACTS
left swift
He put too many u's in words
viral hornet
blazing moss
what could go wrong when updating to 1.16.2
steel pulsar
computer EXPLODE
worn ember
blazing moss
D:
worn ember
not enough !! i assume
blazing moss
Please test and ensure your Villages, Pillager Outposts and Bastions are converting from o
so the structures might be broken
is that all
worn ember
well they actually are broken from what i can tell
when converting
https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/43724816/90115400-58800e00-dd54-11ea-9882-db193ea50b58.png
grave oxide
Atleast they get dirt underneath them
blazing moss
so villagers wont spawn n stuff
worn ember
if you're running a production server i'd just wait tbh
blazing moss
ok
worn ember
and use viabackwards
tidal spoke
Is paper 1.16.2 now the main development branch?
finite wave
Don’t think so yet?
zealous wedge
it's not the stable branch yet, but it's where a lot of time is going at the moment
tidal spoke
Ok thanks. Is there known issues with 1.16.2 paper other than Mojang's "we fixed villages we promise!"?
finite wave
No
tidal spoke
Gotcha. Would compiling the latest GitHub source of 1.16.2 myself and running that be a good idea?
(i guess not)
unreal quarry
If you grab it from proxi's fork, should be fine
tidal spoke
Ok thanks
waxen panther
tidal spoke
Also thanks for your work on paper guys, running a server without it would be almost impossible 
graceful token
is shockbyte or ggservers a reliable server host?
minor badge
no & absolutely not in any universe
mental meadow
@minor badge uwu
it seems like the new RAM I have is fine, apparently my old ram is kinda dead
strange that the windows memory diagnose didn't find anything wrong with it
worn ember
mixing ram is big yikes in general tbh
mental meadow
In theory yeah, but i have 2 dualchannel sockets so in practice it's usually fine, assuming they both run in the same speeds
ashen cliff
Most likely a memory training error, since the BIOS assume all sticks are the same.
mental meadow
But after the 4th bluescreen today I tried switching the 2 sets and that didn't work at all, then I only tried the old set and it didn't work at all, then I tried it in the same config as before, which didn'T work either and now I only have the new set installed, which works fine
@ashen cliff my issue was that I just had random bluescreens after upgrading, not on boot or anything like that
fast summit
And am on vacation in the Netherlands right now, just arrived in the Hague
@vernal moth
👀
Welcome to my country
ashen cliff
It will still boot in most cases, just don't expect any kind of stability.
finite wave
Ramen
vernal moth
Welcome to my country
@miniDeathStriker#5544 you guys drive like shit ^^
Already been in the Netherlands since Friday tho, was in Arnhem
mental meadow
That's what confused me, it was stable under high loads and it worked fine during a stress test, but it would just randomly die
mental meadow
But like if they bluescreens stop now I know its my old set and I can just by the new set again
void void
Anyone know any good APIs to change a player's skin in game
unreal quarry
@void void Paper API
unreal quarry
no clue, personally. I just know its doable using the PlayerProfile stuff in Paper API
tawny junco
where is the download for 1.16.2 dev build?
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tawny junco
that doesnt show me how to get it
tawny junco
not everyone is a dev, i dont know how to build it
than you jan i have the download now
finite wave
Proxi people need to be fed with a one click option or they will get lost
unreal quarry
@tawny junco the jar is literally an attachment in #742779128868241550
minor badge
i dont care, jan
unreal quarry
just have to read the readme
minor badge
if they cant read, theyre the type of person to not understand its not for prod
ashen cliff
If people could actually read, they would be very offended.
finite wave
Prolly too dumb to click it
tawny junco
didnt see .jar in it, styart of the link looked like it would be a pic from discord, my apologies
but by all means keep speaking down about people 🙂
unreal quarry
whats this "we" shit? i wasnt speaking down to anyone..
worn ember
yeah jane speak for yourself
cobalt zodiac
Just checking, that build is just the test build as of now correct? Not their release version?
unreal quarry
its a release candidate
cobalt zodiac
Okay, so they still got a few days I take it for the release.
worn ember
¯_(ツ)_/¯
cobalt zodiac
^
unreal quarry
tbh, its pretty stable other than the bug mentioned in readme
worn ember
as far as stable goes with minecraft
unreal quarry
i'm already running it in production just fine
spice finch
should I pull request addition to API to 1.16.2 branch or 1.16?
unreal quarry
i would hold on that for now
spice finch
aight
worn ember
pr it to 1.8 plz
unreal quarry
things kinda a mess right now since its not on master branch
hardy moth
worn ember
ew
woven otter
ew
warm anchor
@hardy moth very cute profile pic sir
golden gust
that's what a fake would say 
warm anchor
Wtf you are right lol
warm anchor
waxen panther
regal path
does anyone know of a low ram and cpu consuming minecraft app for afking?
ive used one before
but its been a while
vernal moth
Minicraft on my GitHub 😂
mossy vessel
👀
shell vine
console client?
vernal moth
Well, it doesn't do much more than join and reply to keep alive and chat
cosmic raft
warm anchor
quasi valley
🇼 🇪 🇪 🇧
warm anchor
shell vine
cosmic raft
hi kenny
quasi valley
oh no you didn't
cosmic raft
uwu
potent fossil
uwu
quasi valley
don't touch me >:(
zealous wedge
uwu
cunning raft
warm anchor
zealous wedge
unfriends @quasi valley
quasi valley
pf JRoy is way cooler anyways :angery:
zealous wedge
go have a hatefest together i guess
finite wave
worn ember
@finite wave u suk
twin lagoon
uwu
shell vine
worn ember
cats out
shell vine
waxen panther
Silence weeb.
fathom zealot
discord and bots rip
jagged mortar
Hola, algun español
void void
No
ashen cliff
Nein.
waxen panther
NEJ!
latent valve
Jo!
waxen panther
Jo!
waxen panther
Jan wtf, English only 🙄
spiral garden
potent fossil
:( ISP has "outage" and says 4 hours to fix
fuckers
using phone to get internet on pc
quasi valley
rippedironi
quasi valley
Tanz der Moleküle 
cosmic raft
quasi valley
too much 🇩🇪 😂
potent fossil
i really should download songs on spotify and not depend on internet
quasi valley
and Lieblingsmensch
steel pulsar
ever had a internet outage and find out you have zero songs donwloaded
except for 1 boards of canada album
potent fossil
yes, today
cosmic raft
fine here kenny
potent fossil
no, i just had nothing
cosmic raft
quasi valley
heh nice 😂
steel pulsar
always keep a backup music folder
potent fossil
im just using my phone to get internet on pc so its not a big deal
i just cant do large downloads
but spotify is working just fine
trim steeple
huh. I have -Xmx2G on my client, but when I quit out of minecraft 6gb became free??
what's going on with that?
went from 14 gb down to 8
trim steeple
yeah but not 4gb worth
trim steeple
f3 says 2048 is the upper limit too
potent fossil
well yes, your mc will be limited to 2
but jvm itself has its own overhead
separate from server
it could hit 4gb i guess, but im not totally sure
lol barty
just say "been there done that, wrong person tho"
dont need to make him feel bad kek
ive done it before
poor guy is prob losing his mind rn
trim steeple
@potent fossil the weird thing is that task manager said javaw was only using ~3gb
potent fossil
I'm not sure my dude
trim steeple
so weird
finite wave
Teach me to monad
trim steeple
I wonder if WSL will let me use htop
finite wave
iffy concept
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=goram -- goram - Urban Dictionary: "Chinese slang, meaning damn. Made known by Joss Whedon's Serenity. Also spelt goramn. I don't give a goramn! by HokiePokie November 05, 2006."
spice finch
Prob not this
finite wave
Why did he say "Damn goddamn"
spice finch
And what these numbers mean?
potent fossil
what'd he say
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/2%2C4-D -- 2,4-d | Definition of 2,4-d by Merriam-Webster: "2,4-D definition is - a white crystalline irritant compound C8H6Cl2O3 used especially as a weed killer."
potent fossil
i mean in response to barty saying its ok
he's saying shift times you dumbass
2pm-4pm
and 3pm-5pm
== conflicting appointments
potent fossil
so im assuming goram is his manager and he wants to ask what to do
mfw im dissecting barty's internet man's life
void void
Wtf
finite wave
Time to get drunk and code something
magic mesa
the best way to code
wide chasm
Going to hit the ballmer peak
potent fossil
You have to be careful with ballmer's peak, because it's very precise.
void void
.remind 5m @finite wave get drunk and code something
limber knotBOT
DiscordBot: Reminder set for 5 minutes from now.
finite wave
I usually just get shitfaced and try to code something, give up and go to sleep yknow.
potent fossil
Yeah, well, you're dumb.
finite wave
❤️
void void
The one below me is telling the truth
wide chasm
Drink less to become a legendary programmer for 5 minutes.
minor badge
@potent fossil hi x
spice finch
Paper has figured out how to load chunks async. Why can't we implement it to server's logic and "normal" chunk loading is still sync?
minor badge
.mini btw
golden gust
wut
limber knotBOT
Reminder for DiscordBot: @finite wave get drunk and code something
potent fossil
@minor badge kamusta ka na bb
minor badge
finite wave
@void void cunt
potent fossil
o.o
finite wave
@spice finch what
spice finch
Player is going towards unloaded chunk so he loads it. Load is called on main thread, right?
finite wave
It is loaded async but posted on the main thread when done.
potent fossil
paper does async chunk loading so ^
spice finch
golden gust
No
finite wave
no?
spice finch
i didnt know that
potent fossil
im sorry for my lack of knowledge
golden gust
It's only loaded sync if the chunk is requested immediatly
spice finch
i thought it loads sync
potent fossil
spice finch
zz, so that's what priority was created for?
golden gust
The priority is solely there so that stuff requested on the main thread is processed as fast as possible, as are chunks closer to the player
spice finch
urgent chunks are sync and these with lower prior are loaded asyncly?
golden gust
outside of "holy shit we need to do this ASAP", it's all just prettying
sync chunk loads are marked urgent
async chunk loads can also be marked urgent
finite wave
I was wrong?
spice finch
no, I just wanted explanation. To clear out, this pepega was about me not any of you :D
trim steeple
sanity check here.... this is with the minecraft client open (xmx 2g)
immediately after closing
14GB - 2.5GB != 9.9GB
what on earth is going on here
ashen cliff
JVM.
ashen cliff
Even Windows doesn't show all the things using your memory, why should JVM? Anyway, it's JVM overhead.
trim steeple
you're saying task manager doesn't completely tally up all the memory used by a process then?
trim steeple
that's what's weird though, I have the max set to 2g. Some overhead makes sense, but 30min ago it had 6+ GB used
crazy
wintry crown
Hi
peak gulch
It 6am in Australia mate
zealous wedge
any time can be bedtime
finite wave
I'm not sleepngiagn wno
twin lagoon
@mental meadow uwu
peak gulch
Have anyone ever try decaf coffee?
golden gust
tea
finite wave
pills
ashen cliff
Perc 30.
prime pawn
I like how people complain about chrome eating up their ram
Then there's me just chillin here with 128gb xD
finite wave
worn ember
just love how people waste my and their own time by asking stupid questions that are literally explained on the first 3 lines of the plugin page, and even in the freaking comment above the variable
10/10
mossy vessel
plogin does not work, halp
peak gulch
Lol plugin review section
worn ember
i've never done this level of abstraction and it makes me want to commit sudoku
spice finch
ded whats name of ur rtp plug?
worn ember
RandomTeleport 🙂
potent fossil
This might seem really stupid, but say I want to write a login/registration microservice. I typically use JWTs, but I would like to use sessions so as to give my users the ability to see where they're logged in/on what devices and also have a session killswitch. Can be done with JWT, but kinda defeats the purpose of JWT to an extent unless I wanna go auth token/refresh token pairs...which, nty atm. Even Reddit seems to use sessions for auth, so that's a nice thing to know. JWT seems more useful for short-lived one-offs between services.
Anyway, is it as simple as just generating a random id and sticking it in a KV store like Redis?
red imp
Hey guys, do you think that I can allow my players have 50 homes? Don't it will be impact to database? Just VIP ones
potent fossil
if 1 home = 1 row, it's fine.
spice finch
databases are designed to hold large amount of data
potent fossil
that aint shit to a db
red imp
So no problem, yeah? And if it will be for the biggest rank
potent fossil
its not a problem at all
spice finch
It shouldn't
red imp
It's CMI
spice finch
potent fossil
red imp
but there it's similar probably?
potent fossil
okay, ppl here don't like CMI but it'll still likely be ok.
don't listen to DED
whatever he's typing
worn ember
not sure what JWT is exactly, but Sessions are probably the better option
potent fossil
okay good
golden gust
JWT is just "secure" data
potent fossil
^
golden gust
if you wanna attach a session id in there, you can
potent fossil
yeah, but that defeats the purpose of a jwt as an auth token. might as well just store the session id in a secure httponly cookie.
red imp
because I'm a little bit confused, if I should give players homes depending on price, for ex. if one rank cost 5 euro, and they will have for ex 5 homes, if the rank that cost 15 euro should give them 10 homes, or normally by logic 15.... but with this logic I got up to 50 homes at the biggest rank.
potent fossil
i mean, but you still have to track the jwt in a db then which also defeats the purpose of using a jwt
red imp
so it would be ok I presume?
worn ember
dont use jwt then
golden gust
I mean, you could just have the kill switch mark a "valid from" data in your DB
spice finch
.g jwt programming definition
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://jwt.io/introduction/ -- JSON Web Token Introduction - jwt.io: "JSON Web Token (JWT) is a compact URL-safe means of representing claims ... JSON parsers are common in most programming languages because they map ..."
golden gust
That way you don't care about the session but just the issue time
potent fossil
JWT is a crypto token that holds json data, that's what it is.
red imp
ok 😄
and btw about homes... I still think that if players will be allowed to create 50 of them, they still don't create so many of them?
potent fossil
Hm, true cat
golden gust
I mean, /home is a personal teleport
potent fossil
Just seems like sessions are the go to. Stateless authentication seems necessary maybe for huge scale operations that are separated across multiple geoclusters or something (like FB maybe).
red imp
yeah I think they don't make them all, but if it isn't problem for db, why don't allow them it
golden gust
People throw homes anywhere where they need to have quick access
potent fossil
Even reddit using a uuid-based session token.
worn ember
doesnt JWT keep sessions for you?
potent fossil
you can put a session token inside a jwt to say "yes, this token is cryptographically proven to have come from my server"
but other than that, it doesnt do anything else
golden gust
You're gonna be passing a sesssion token back and forth all over the place anyways
I'd just keep it stuffed in the JWT so you only have to deal with one source of truth which is actually protected
worn ember
ive used JWT in ASP but i honestly have no clue how it works 
potent fossil
fair point im just trying to look at it from a management standpoint
red imp
and btw about land protection size... do you think that 400*400 max is ok too? And what size do you suggest for normal players? I have 70 now and they think it's so small, so probably will make 100.... and with vip ranks up to 400... or do you think it could be more? My map size is 10000 * 10000 blocks, don't know if make it bigger
potent fossil
what I have been doing is encode some user data in the jwt and also an expiration date, but I don't actually track the JWT meaning they session is valid for as long as the token is valid regardless. "logging out" was deleting the token from local storage
if the token was stolen, no matter what it could be used. only solution is to shut down server and change signing key
worn ember
70 what? blocks? chunks?
potent fossil
which is like kek
red imp
blocks
potent fossil
that's 4 chunks in each direction
worn ember
you can easly x10 the worldsize and the claim size
potent fossil
that's a pretty large claim...
worn ember
4 chunks is nothing for a claim
worn ember
if i build a regular sized house i'm already over that
potent fossil
i mean, if they want more, they pay
prime pawn
Oh while we're on the topic. I had a thought: What if for worldedit-related plugins, when you go to modify a huge arena, the relevant chunks can get saved while the player is teleported in a loading spot or far away enough so the chunks won't attempt to render again and just immediately load? Would that be faster or less resource excessive do you think? Lemme know your thoughts
potent fossil
i think that's a smart way to make money
4 chunks is pretty good, but they want more as they expand so donate.
potent fossil
that is a huge fucking border lol
red imp
just reacting to "you can easly x10 the worldsize and the claim size"
I'm not having 10 000 * 10 000 and don't know if I should make it bigger? Or atleast claims?
potent fossil
honestly i think 70 in each dir (4 chunks) is good for people who dont pay, that's my opinion. that's a good way to get people to pay because it's constrictive enough to be like "damn wish I had more" but enough to let them build /something/.
red imp
and if you were player would you pay for it? 😛
worn ember
oh i thought he meant 70 total blocks lul
potent fossil
no
worn ember
...
potent fossil
yeah
spice finch
so its 70x70
red imp
yes
worn ember
yeah thats fine
red imp
will make screen of it
worn ember
https://youtu.be/NkE0AMGzpJY i want to win an island too 😢
potent fossil
i fucking hate mrbeast
potent fossil
correct, the only people who get to participate are his friends or people who get him sufficient media coverage
its not giving it away
it's moving money around
potent fossil
not necessarily, it's probably legal money
spice finch
probably
potent fossil
but my point is, it stays with him and his group
he doesnt 'give it away'
they just toss it around to each other
spice finch
who would give away money to random people who don't deserve it lul
potent fossil
and yes, i know he does these wild PR stunts like teamtrees to make everyone go like "ooowwweeeee mrbeast i want his cummies"
so, like, i guess have fun with that
worn ember
thats really not all of his video's, theres plenty where he gives it away to strangers
sure there a few he just does with friends but thats just a small part
sweet iron
And note the amount of money he's given away to charity.
spice finch
If he toss me car I'll belive he's giving it away to random people 
potent fossil
Oh yeah make sure you note that!
worn ember
formal turret
how many of his videos are giving stuff to random people vs his friends?
grave oxide
Did you rather want him to give money to random people who might use it bad things? Or destroy their lives with it?
potent fossil
No? Don't put words in my mouth.
I'm saying his competitions could get more people that are background checked.
red imp
So is this big enough? 70*70
potent fossil
yes.
grave oxide
How do you want to background check them? Check their facebook and twitter?
spice finch
Drago, you're turning it around lol
potent fossil
No? Run a fucking background check.
That's a legal check.
Background checks are not checking social media.
red imp
OK, and do you think that 400*400 should be ok for the most expensive rank, or should it be smaller, or could it be bigger? Even if I have border 10 000 * 10 000?
potent fossil
i.e. make sure they haven't been arrested for drug offenses and shit and make sure they're not already rich.
spice finch
whaaaa
red imp
for the most expensive* 😄
slender jay
is this the dedi nutz guy?
red imp
do you think it's really so big? hm, what do you suggest to give as max?
grave oxide
Wait, you can just ask for that kind of information? 🤔
potent fossil
You can submit a background check with the participants approval.
They sign a form, you send it in, it gets done.
They have to approve it.
Same thing on job apps, you have to click a box that says "I agree to a background check"
grave oxide
Yea alright. But that doesn't prevent bad behavior from them with the money they won in the future
potent fossil
well that's fine, im just saying he should at least make that effort to get 'normal people' (a lot more of them) on the show
if they pass the bg check and then proceed to ruin their lives that's on them
serene bolt
they just toss it around to each other
not gonna lie I actually never thought about it like that, but you're right
potent fossil
yup
and it's legal just shitty. im certain they're not laundering
not at all what im saying
worn ember
theres still plenty of "random" people involved that get to participate
potent fossil
yeah just enough here and there to make you think "oh ok it's not just a bunch of butt buddies"
all im saying is it should be more common than that
worn ember
i mean, have you seen the amounts of money we're talking about lol
red imp
https://discordapp.com/channels/289587909051416579/555469074080202765/744308328208793703 Guys what do you think?
potent fossil
it doesnt have to be 250k type shit, i mean even 5k can change somebody's life.
this is cool, new flight simulator
those graphics are 
worn ember
is that the one based on real map data?
potent fossil
yea
worn ember
ok hf cat
potent fossil
for flightsim?
golden gust
I mean, it looks pretti
I only somewhat recently got xplane
(was using freeflight for a good little while)
potent fossil
yeah, I would like to get some gear like this guy has which is about the size of a keyboard, has throttle and all the normal switches found in an airplane and he also had feet pedals for the rudders
worn ember
i dont get the joy of flight sims
potent fossil
imagine all that, and then VR
golden gust
freeflight was k, but then I did some update which made it more realistic so I basically had to relearn it, lol
twin lagoon
graphics look great though airfdorceproud doesn't have the best recording settings nor graphic settings enabled
golden gust
Figured, am already taking the hit, FF is bleh, why not
serene bolt
dang flight sim 2020 looks so realistic, they nailed the lighting and shaders
potent fossil
except when this happens https://owo.whats-th.is/AgkZHxv.png
golden gust
needs more mach 10 ballon
potent fossil
but yea, they really did not sell it short. compared to FSX, FS2020 is a whole different league
perhaps two whole different leagues
void void
potent fossil
lol
slender jay
jesus
potent fossil
just ignore it
finite wave
I told him he sucked too
potent fossil
of course Jan doesn't
finite wave
Why should i?
worn ember
jan big dum
slender jay
who's this guy anyway
finite wave
I mean, i can insult a fuy for free
slender jay
did he ask eta or something and is now hurt
finite wave
Idk spme dumb boy who prolly got offended by someone
lament crystal
void void
i love eclipse
red imp
OK, and do you think that 400*400 should be ok for the most expensive rank, or should it be smaller, or could it be bigger? Even if I have border 10 000 * 10 000
blocks
maybe 300*300 will be better and give players more of them?
But wait, is it fine even if I have just 10 000 * 10 000?
hm, will prob. allow just 300 as max, or maybe 250
and amount of them I allowed max 10, so if one people will do 10* 400*400
prob smaller amount 😅
latent valve
@worn ember dota?
latent valve
aight imma go techie atleast i hope i get techie lel
knotty rose
bad thins of administrating aserver at 1 am: adding something to PATH forgetting to put $PATH at the end of the command and messing all up
worn ember
better than most games tho
latent valve
ye
cunning raft
D 
TA
latent valve
imagine player overwatch
worn ember
imagine paying to play a game
latent valve
latent valve
I FREAKING SAW SOMEONE BAN TECHIE LETS SEE
fuck this game https://imgur.com/FbRVQB6
latent valve
im angry now ffs
worn ember
haha
drowsy urchin
Hello, I'm on Windows paper won't build for me is there a latest 1.16.2 jar I can download?
I know about #742779128868241550 the .jar in there but I think it's out dated now.
potent fossil
There is no other release.
If there were, it'd be on the download page and not in a readme channel. And the readme channel would be deleted...
red imp
Btw guys am I thinking about it right? When people will have 400400, 10 residences of them is 4 000 * 4 000, and when my border is 10 000 * 10 000, then map will be full after almost 25 400 400 residences? 😅
ancient bolt
no 10000x10000 will fit 625 400x400 residences
red imp
And how are you counting it?
red imp
ok, so I can make 400*400 residences for players, yeah? For the biggest rank, wouldn't be map full, yea?
yes survival, just normal world with residences
as protection
ancient bolt
when you extend sides by a factor of 1, area goes up by a factor of 2 and volume by 3
golden gust
so, the whole concept of "how many can I fit into X" is useless anyways
I doubt your players are going to try to arrange on grids
ancient bolt
in survival minecraft I prefer to just let players explore
and build bases where they want
red imp
The problem is, when players will have 400*400 and use /res auto, it automatically create this size
slender jay
how is that a problem
red imp
cause it will have full size
normally they prob. won't need 400*400
they will make smaller selection
but using /res auto it will make automatically this big res
slender jay
and?
golden gust
Basically, you're SOL if you're expecting to have some magically high number
red imp
it will be unnecessarily big res
golden gust
once you get to the # where that's a concern, your 10k pregen will likely be irrelevant anyways
red imp
what's #?
shadow flame
number
slender jay
oh sweet jesus
red imp
I know 😄
slender jay
it begins again
shadow flame
👀
red imp
but which number? 😅
slender jay
unique snow
That depends on how long a piece of string is
golden gust
at the end of the day, players will sprawl around
You're unlikely to get even 1/2 of the theoretical cap due to that entire nature
peak dirge
unless you corral then in 😉
red imp
the problem will be, if they will have their lands for ex. 100 blocks next to them and between these lands wouldn't fit another lands
so it will be even worse
red imp
but the first one who create it will have 400*400
slender jay
so if there is 100 blocks free it will be 100xsomething
red imp
and maybe unnecessarily
golden gust
Basically, large protection plots in survival don't really work unless you wanna enforce your issue to be even worse
unique snow
@drowsy urchin I could theoretically give you the version I compiled, but I'm a stranger, and by no means associated with PaperMC. So trusting me is not advisable.
red imp
but yeah, then you create in these spaces, but then.... would you wanna live between two big lands?
slender jay
id never put a cap on my server in the first place
red imp
zzzCat what size do you suggest max?
golden gust
🤷♂️
shadow flame
if it's just survival, don't expect people to build next to each other, some will, but people like to explore and expand
worn ember
ive been having loads of problems with intellij lately :/ References not updating, classes showing as non existant even tho they exist and stuff like this
no bueno
red imp
yeah, but I worry about it could be soon fulfilled
shadow flame
I have pretty much a single rule on my server about building: don't build too close to each other unless agreed upon, guess what has happened more than once
slender jay
players will do exactly what you tell them not to
golden gust
We used to have people who literally built right outside of the spawn kingdom
shadow flame
yeah users are users
golden gust
And then wonder why their stuff got stolen
shadow flame
yeah that's my 2nd rule, but w/e same deal
golden gust
(our rule was theft was allowed, griefing was not)
worn ember
its really suprising how dum people can be
shadow flame
eh users are like that
red imp
maybe I can enable Residence raids 😛
serene bolt
players love following rules! they do it all the time!
shadow flame
I've put "read the rules" everywhere and nobody does until I tell them in the chat except for like less than 1/10 of the peeps
it is what it is, you can either work around it or ban people constantly and rollback
shadow flame
heck ye
red imp
Maybe on my Survival server I can do it max 256*256, on Vanilla maybe 300-400, because there's also nether and end + it would probably reset with new ver
limber knotBOT
hello
worn ember
sup nub
ancient bolt
virtual whitespace
mighty storm
is that what it's called
i accidentally did it while trying to add parentheses to a if statement
serene bolt
chew... in general... not on IRC? what
mighty storm
wouldnt let me upload image :/
spice finch
Why tho
mighty storm
why what
spice finch
Ah nevermind
limber knotBOT
Ahh it's annoying
limber knotBOT
Burger tonight
serene bolt
I'm making burgers tonight too!
earnest rampart
limber knotBOT
it's too hot to have (veggie) burgers :(
worn ember
im so hungry ;n;
worn ember
also i think i'm going to install Eclipse, this i just rediciculous
its like the 5th time today that its doing this, really annoying
its really not liking multi module projects
limber knotBOT
Yeah i have that too
zealous wedge
- be liked
- post good cat photos
serene bolt
you need to be purfect
toxic ember
is there a link to the anti xray documentation
I am trying to see what the max-chunk section index means
limber knotBOT
sad truth of our reality
void void
How do these permissions of vip users joining the server when full work?
Is there like a plugin or what?
limber knotBOT
there are plugins that do that ya
limber knotBOT
no idea these days, i stopped maintaining the one i used that did have those
screw it, restoring default settings
serene bolt
Is there like a plugin or what?
https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/simplereserve.22327/
serene bolt
don't expose me stop that
shadow flame
pseudo ridge
Plugin to auto play jukebox discs?
limber knotBOT
real gamer move is to make a plugin but not contribute to it
i recommend i3
i mean i3 is the most common tiling wm at this point i think
if you don't like it then you kind of have to make your own opinion
the best WM is the one you like most
they all work
z0w0: so trent?
ok
chew: lol
golden gust
nobody cares to update that list, it's just an annoying thing to have to remember to do
limber knotBOT
well, that just says tested
aint nobody got time to tests all those major versions
thorny totem
on the Vault plugin page, says its not compatible qwith server version 1.12.2 but no warnings or errors, works fine with a shop plugin (even tested buying an item)
void void
so does paper not allow villager breeders to work
prime pawn
Hai
inland fiber
a question out of context, https://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/i9kdfh/combat_test_snapshot_version_7c/
how do i download the server jar of this?
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) Combat test snapshot version 7c : Minecraft - 1,917 comments, 2,856 points - jeb_, 1d ago
inland fiber
Once you have the launcher set up you can download the server files from there as well. Where is that <,<
void void
what flags should i compile openjdk with? I just did Ofast and march=native and mtune=native
any other good ones?
?
ancient bolt
compiler flags aren't like pop album songs
serene bolt
ah yes mtune by native, my favorite one!
static badge
compiling openjdk with those flags is pretty useless
given 99.99% of the code you're going to run is actually going to be compiled by the JIT
ancient bolt
now I'm getting no binding for qualified name for a qualified name in the source file it's remapping 🙃
slim nymph
any reason to hold back 1.16.2 at this point?
tight ginkgo
hi
serene bolt
besides all of the wonderful maplike DFU spam, my experience has been good
serene bolt
yeah seems even worse now though tbh
slim nymph
damn, i suspect previous was only villages, now potentially all jigsaw structures
slim nymph
oh so 1.16.1 to 1.16.2 is confirmed to trigger it too
serene bolt
yup, brand new 1.16.1 map on 1.16.2
void void
compiling openjdk with those flags is pretty useless
@static badge http://august.nagro.us/optimized-openjdk.html
slim nymph
ok ima hold back then and release an rc3 see if we can figure something out to fix it, as im worried about data issues
maybe just make it return success instead lol
serene bolt
no idea how they managed to make it even worse
surely it's a legitimate problem if its still being printed, it's definitely not very nice to see
void void
Finally, Linux can have an inferior filesystem: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Paragon-Read-Write-NTFS-Linux
unique snow
Aikar, I've seen villages, outposts, and think one other structure. Also there is a strange lag issue while generating chunks Proxi was getting, I managed to replicate it on one of my superflat worlds, but cannot for the life of me identify the specific cause of it. I have a feeling it's the light bug.
serene bolt
yeah it definitely extends beyond just villages
unique snow
I have yet to try the build I made with the latest commits.
I'm fine with nuking the structures by deleting the chunks for regeneration personally. But feel 1.16 is really shit (vanilla side).
unique snow
Honestly, I don't think they tested the previous fix.
Or they would have seen another error
I think they identified the issue, and fixed it, and just assumed that was all done and dusted
Yeah, well, combine that with the chunk generation lag, which makes the game unplayable if it occurs.
I can't see why they wouldn't.
I have a feeling it's to do with light in the spawn chunks. On certain worlds, the lag is crippling client side.
Like the client freezes every time a chunk is generated.
Proximyst had it on her normal survival world, I have it on two of my superflat worlds.
There is a fix (allegedly) for fabric.
But for all the vanilla users..
I don't know, I can test
I have a feeling it's all 1.16
But that's a gut feeling, I have not actually tested it
void void
mojang should hire the people working on optimization mods imo
or make minecraft opensource
the latter would be better
unique snow
I agree on open source. At least allow people to contribute in some way if not open source.
unique snow
A community developers program of some sort.
unique snow
I'm guessing they don't have a lot of well written tests.
Oh also 1.16.2 broke portal link range
unique snow
I use the latest LTS.
regal path
console client is acting shit for me
void void
I use the latest LTS.
I ususally use openjdk 15
BRUH
OPENJDK 16 WORKS WITH MINECRAFT
vagrant niche
@static badge ??
static badge
ye
void void
holy crap, I can't believe this works
serene bolt
why would it not work? typically java is very compatible between releases, only breaking really hacky stuff sometimes
void void
why would it not work? typically java is very compatible between releases, only breaking really hacky stuff sometimes
Last time i tested, it didn't
static badge
fucking
void void
it just crashed last time
vagrant niche
PEBKAC
static badge
THEY BROKE BYTEBUFFER ABI IN 11 REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
im still fucking livid about that one
void void
openjdk 16 is a bit faster than openjdk 15
im flying around
epic
is compiling openjdk from HEAD the same stability wise as compiling the linux kernel from HEAD
I can't outrun chunks on a pi
this is epic
worn ember
what kinda question is that even
worn ember
¯_(ツ)_/¯
potent fossil
uh well, HEAD would be bleeding incl bugs...
so...no?
yes?
what are you asking
worn ember
https://darkeyedragon.me/ rate my homepage pl0x
potent fossil
0/10
worn ember
😦
void void
what are you asking
if compiling openjdk from head, I will expect random crashes w/ minecraft.
like openjdk 15 works fine
serene bolt
im still fucking livid about that one
yeah that was a fun error to track down when everyone using WorldBorder started getting that error, little did I know I couldn't rely on JDK11 to compile Java 8 api levels any longer. won't make that mistake again :P
potent fossil
i mean, nobody knows my guy. HEAD refers to the latest commit, it's not a specific release
worn ember
thats like asking if your car will break down the next few weeks
potent fossil
if the current HEAD source tree has bugs, then yes.
worn ember
sure it might, but it might not
void void
@worn ember Very unique website, I've never seen that before /s
potent fossil
you will crash.
void void
HEAD refers to the latest commit, it's not a specific release
yea ik
potent fossil
can you fix your brain
worn ember
then why you asking
potent fossil
it seems to be short circuiting
worn ember
reeee
potent fossil
wtf
void void
?
potent fossil
why would anyone have experience with the current HEAD? do you think somebody else in here has just so happened to also compile the absolute current HEAD and rigorously tested it?
if so, you're very wrong
this is a try it and see moment
there is nothing we can tell you
void void
ok, I was just wondering, lol
potent fossil
@worn ember mr bean emoji now plz
worn ember
potent fossil
thanks
void void
4:20am
nice
is there someway to reload paper.yml without turning off and back up the server?
void void
ah ok