With that being said though I still prefer the look and feel of the java client
@magic ice who doesn't
#general
marble lark
frigid shadow
The rp / skins loading is way better with bedrock.. they should just not have added microtransactions lol
magic ice
Skin loading on bedrock is pretty bad
marble lark
The look and feel does come at a cost but it's damn well worth it> With that being said though I still prefer the look and feel of the java client
@magic ice
magic ice
it’s nice that they have support for multiple skin types, but it takes ages for skins to load just in general
green pebble
I had a world on bedrock me and my friends played for a month and then missed lots of little details java has that we never noticed before. I think java is just better as a pc game as everything was made for a computer and not for a phone and a console as well
grim kiln
hello
which is best bedwars premium plugin ?
frigid shadow
Java is actually not the best for gaming especally in terms of graphics
Also notch wanted to get rid of it as far as i know
marble lark
That can't be right wasn't Java Notch's pride and joy
Hell any MC version was his pride and joy I'd say
green pebble
Its just that they havent put enough effort in
@frigid shadow
its not really that they haven't as they are trying to rewrite a game that was written in java to c++ but it just doesn't feel the same and tbh it never really will as they are written differently making there always be odd inconsistencies between the versions.
frigid shadow
That can't be right wasn't Java Notch's pride and joy
@marble lark
Notch made the deal with ms to change codebase
marble lark
@marble lark
Notch made the deal with ms to change codebase
@frigid shadow ah I see
potent fossil
The day you work as a software engineer for any company, come back and have that discussion with me
marble lark
That means Microsoft sorta backstabbed him
potent fossil
until then, shut up
frigid shadow
That means Microsoft sorta backstabbed him
@marble lark no, they just made a few things wrong which made the community stay with java
The day you work as a software engineer for any company, come back and have that discussion with me
@potent fossil haha yes.. WhY dOeSn'T bEdRoCk LoOk ThE sAmE?!
Why did they not try
potent fossil
green pebble
java isn't a good language to program a game in @marble lark c++ is a lot more optimized for making games which is why it's now the industry standard java runs worse than bedrock due to the limitations of java. and C++ isn't awful it's like learning any language you just need to put in the time and effort to learn it.
marble lark
that's not what I meant
obviously C++ is going to remain on top, being fully compiled
frigid shadow
java isn't a good language to program a game in @marble lark c++ is a lot more optimized for making games which is why it's now the industry standard java runs worse than bedrock due to the limitations of java. and C++ isn't awful it's like learning any language you just need to put in the time and effort to learn it.
@green pebble javas #1 limitation: graphic engine
potent fossil
yall are something else
marble lark
but developing and updating C++ code... just no
potent fossil
there's no issue with that
quasi valley
cudsy that's just plainly wrong
cunning raft
holy shit nobody here knows what they're talking about
potent fossil
the way yall are talking about this expresses nothing but one thing to me
cunning raft
besides kenny and simple
frigid shadow
Whats wrong with c++
potent fossil
i know nothing at all, i am speaking out of my ass
marble lark
holy shit nobody here knows what they're talking about
@cunning raft I don't even know what we're arguing about anymore
xd
zealous wedge
wow this sounds like spigot discord
cunning raft
everytime an update comes around
potent fossil
i dont see an argument i just unintelligible things with buzzwords flying past me
cunning raft
always does
quasi valley
no wiz to clean it up tho
potent fossil
and im trying to make sense of it but i just cant
zealous wedge
imagine if programming languages were real
potent fossil
I still haven't made my coffee so I spose I'll go do that
I need to some work today tho. Maybe finish that k8s tut
marble lark
Whats wrong with c++
@frigid shadow It's absolutely painful to develop in, not saying it's bad as a language but holy hell :/
golden gust
The trick to trying to understand people is to pretend you're having an aneurysm and think like they'd think
marble lark
The trick to trying to understand people is to pretend you're having an aneurysm and think like they'd think
lel
potent fossil
That wasn't even a joke, just generally good advice.
Thanks catto.
Leaf would be reeing so hard right now
frigid shadow
Crazy enchant? Idk
marble lark
Is there any plugin which makes enchanting an armour with multiple protection enchantments possible?
@simple nest I doubt so if you mean multiple of the same enchantment on an item
quasi valley
you don't have to quote messages directly above yours, that only creates noise imo 👀
green pebble
ok imma time myself out for a bit i'm sorry maybe should have fact checked before saying that. I sent it and then realised I probably shouldn't have anyway yeah sorry
potent fossil
say what
steel pulsar
why only quote one message. quote the entire reply chain
this is now a forums page
Go the full lngth
frigid shadow
is that a test question simp?
potent fossil
i can hardly wait for discord...threads...
steel pulsar
how do you quote like that anyways
potent fossil
dont think you can
left swift
Pray to the discord gods
steel pulsar
like how do you quote at all on discord
left swift
Ping quotes 
marble lark
sorry was just testing to see if that worked
frigid shadow
mossy vessel
Am I the only one who quotes by copy/paste because they hate mentions? lol
potent fossil
I just click quote and remove the tag lmao
marble lark
Am I the only one who quotes by copy/paste because they hate mentions? lol
just quote and delete the mention..?
potent fossil
ctrl backspace removes the whole word
steel pulsar
potent fossil
aint no prob
frigid shadow
I just click quote and remove the tag lmao
so much work on mobile phone
spice finch
Double backspace removes tag too
steel pulsar
lol dumping many quotations into one post just turns it into a closed caret
mossy vessel
meh I'm faster by keyboard
marble lark
This was not quoted from anyone here
left swift
Just only quote messages above you and include the ping that's how discord would've wanted it!
potent fossil
.typing
limber knotBOT
mossy vessel
steel pulsar
the great thing about discord is that you can edit anyone's message and make em look real Stupid
frigid shadow
nah
steel pulsar
left swift
Wat
steel pulsar
look at this dummy... lol..
zealous knot
frigid shadow
y is it loading forever
steel pulsar
it's a garbage image host that i am now switching from
frigid shadow
https://i.vgy.me/4BTCU7.png
actually dummy
zealous knot
use https://sxcu.net
potent fossil
i got in trouble for using sxcu
frigid shadow
mature content?
left swift
Gyazo wen
potent fossil
yes, because they whoised it and saw the nasty as fuck subdomains your users create.
potent fossil
like the rape and racist ones
steel pulsar
oh this is neat
left swift
Must've been an awkward day
potent fossil
it was lol
zealous knot
"oh his user generated content is nasty, that means this guy who also uses this must be nasty too"
potent fossil
idk what to tell you ¯_(ツ)_/¯
left swift
zealous knot
Yeah i understand it's not your fault
potent fossil
they called me out on it, i didn't want to have to explain why there are really not okay subdomains on there everytime someone did that
some of those are really fucking terrible
but other than that A+ service
had no probs
potent fossil
what?
zealous knot
Thanks, but i will forever find it strange that they called you out on my user generated content, lmfao, how sensitive can you be
steel pulsar
i'm just showing you how you can edit posts on discord
potent fossil
lol
zealous knot
oh no guys, he discovered ctrl+shift+i
potent fossil
yea, it was strange
waxen panther
HACKER
potent fossil
i was like?? i dont host it
waxen panther
!!!!
steel pulsar
that was the joke
potent fossil
they dropped it finally, but i didnt want that to happen again
potent fossil
some random in a server discord
zealous knot
yeah i thought so
left swift
Oof
steel pulsar
it's probably better to just host your own image thing on your own domain
just gotta make sure to hide the domain whois
potent fossil
I'm just using owo now
zealous knot
i mean
potent fossil
which is just pomf
zealous knot
there's some pretty nasty shit on owo too
potent fossil
havent been called out yet doe
zealous knot
lmao
potent fossil
frigid shadow
yet
left swift
Lol
zealous knot
If i recall correctly, owo is a much bigger service than mine, i can't even imagine how you avoid people shoring the horrible shit on it
like
iv'e already had to deal with CP multiple times and every time that happens i wanna kms
minor badge
step A) we dont
we dont associate files with a user unless they opt in, so just delete whatever is brought to light and is clearly against the terms
zealous knot
can't you be held accountable for that?
potent fossil
i opt into that, the management panel is quite handy
minor badge
no idea, hasnt happened yet so 
frigid shadow
just use https://imgbb.com/
zealous knot
has no one really uploaded CP to owo yet
minor badge
if something is DMCA'd on good grounds, it'll be taken down
zealous knot
bruh
potent fossil
that's disgusting.
zealous knot
yeah i don't fuck with the illegal shit lmao, if it's questionable, anything associated with the uploader gets turbo nuked off of my server
fuck that
potent fossil
on another note im getting the urge to do some cable management.
steel pulsar
i mean it's just inevitable. host your own private site instead
i steal cable ties from work all the time i can give you a Discount
steel pulsar
who are you talking to
zealous knot
funny coming from you
waxen panther
Everyone then?
steel pulsar
why did you respond to a post from like two hours ago, without any indication as to whom you're responding to
zealous knot
ikr
steel pulsar
hows am i gona read this
frigid shadow
he blocked mee 😦
@zealous knot welcome to the list
steel pulsar
time is relative
zealous knot
and he responded without even properly reading the entire convo lol
are you actually fucking retarded
the content is user generated sub domains that have nothing to do with the sub domain that simp used to use lol
zealous knot
lmfao
steel pulsar
I just wanna Grill for gods sake
steel pulsar
are you just making incendiary posts for the sake of it
zealous knot
This should be a simulator game tbh
cosmic raft
squeeee
potent fossil
barty he wasnt calling me sensitive
he was calling the guy who called me out sensitive
however, i also don't think those things are particularly great, i understand it is user-generated.
i just dont wanna be associated to it
potent fossil
well .ss exists for south sudan
golden gust
||bitche||
steel pulsar
Hmm. We’re having trouble finding that site.
We can’t connect to the server at www.pi.ss.
zealous knot
it's probably held by some grease merchant premium domains agency for $7 trillion
steel pulsar
Domain Name: pi.ss
Domain Status: No Object Found
Notes: This name is invalid and can not be registered
this is the problem with society
potent fossil
looks like ssNIC has decided not to sell .ss but derivations thereof similar to .uk
they have .com.ss, .net.ss, .org.ss
etc
steel pulsar
cowardly
twin lagoon
.g how do people get discord rich presence in vscode
potent fossil
yes.
limber knotBOT
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twin lagoon
zealous knot
goog
short locust
How many people do you guys think i could fit on a 8core 10700k server 32gb ram 1tb hdd
quasi valley
at least 1
short locust
Yes
potent fossil
impossible to answer. too many variables.
short locust
Hmm i could switch to a nvme
steel pulsar
why do you need a 1tb hdd
short locust
I have a spare p2 nvme
zealous knot
i mean why not
west zenith
Hi papers,
Is there an know bug with sticky pistons with 1.16.2
short locust
Yeah
zealous knot
Hi papers 
potent fossil
there is literally no point trying to give ideas as there are too many variables. network, disk speed, ram amount (and speed), plugin counts, WHAT your players are doing in game, etc...
unanswerable.
steel pulsar
the call em paper but you never see em pap
limber knotBOT
short locust
K i gotta 1gb download 200mbs upload
twin lagoon
k
short locust
Well at first im going to try the 1 on 1 earth generation mod but if that just kills my pc ill switch it do survival/factions
potent fossil
yo you dont even know what kind of server you're running and you want us to tell you how many players you can hold?
please.
short locust
Im new sorry
steel pulsar
are you hosting this locally?
short locust
Yes
zealous knot
why does that try it and see video looks like the creation of bill wurtz
potent fossil
Have fun when somebody decides to ddos you and your little home router gets crushed in .5 seconds.
short locust
I have a server router
twin lagoon
steel pulsar
but what do you do at dell
potent fossil
lol, the way you be talking you dont have any sort of IT experience so please stop.
zealous knot
oh noo he wants to host his server on dell workspace
short locust
Vmware
zealous knot
that's illegal
short locust
Lol
mossy vessel
delleting stuff
zealous knot
LOL
potent fossil
one more edit NMF you can do it
steel pulsar
vmware isn't dell
zealous knot
delleting
mighty storm
thx whoever moved me
short locust
I sell servers with vmware in them
mossy vessel
one more edit NMF you can do it
kek
potent fossil
ok, listen, we dont care where you work or how much expensive hardware you have. residential internet lines are not made to handle that shit
steel pulsar
so then explain your lack of IT experience
smoky python
I am going to giveaway my domain.
Domain: localhost
twin lagoon
i swear to god
left swift
My dad works at dellisoft
zealous wedge
it's not hard to sell servers
twin lagoon
every rust project uses .toml
zealous wedge
ya it's unfortunate
smoky python
rust is cool
zealous wedge
nobody is ok with toml
twin lagoon
simple i am having a seizure
zealous wedge
this is a toml hate space
potent fossil
poor Michael
limber knotBOT
hocon > toml right
smoky python
Rust is like java but with more features right?
finite wave
zealous wedge
hocon > toml, yaml > toml, json5 > toml
waxen panther
not at all
limber knotBOT
rust is a video game
waxen panther
txt > toml
zealous wedge
rust is iron oxide
waxen panther
Stupid phone
zealous wedge
well iirc any metal oxide
finite wave
Sut my toe zml
zealous wedge
xml > toml
limber knotBOT
what the heck is cyberduck
waxen panther
you know what
potent fossil
.g toml acronym
zealous wedge
tom's obvious markup language
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=TOML -- TOML - Urban Dictionary: "Acronym for "That Others May Live." Which is the condensed version of the motto for USAF Combat Search and Rescue. The full line is: "These Things We..."
waxen panther
You’re right
potent fossil
ok
limber knotBOT
lmao close enough
finite wave
zealous wedge
thanks jan
waxen panther
michael 
potent fossil
cyberduck is a ftp/sftp client, i use it on mac
smoky python
rust means peace in my naive language
potent fossil
when i use mac, that is
steel pulsar
all files should simply be .gba ROM images
waxen panther
Ah yes
limber knotBOT
waxen panther
We stan hocon
steel pulsar
what is this
left swift
Anyways, heres toml
limber knotBOT
sudo reboot .5 seconds later "Why was I disconnected"
waxen panther
twin lagoon
chew uwu
potent fossil
the thing i dont like about toml is that you have to repeat the parent sections for every new subsection
[parent]
[parent.child]
[parent.child.grandchild]
[parent.child.grandchild.great]
and so on...
limber knotBOT
uwu
zealous knot
twin lagoon
how's rory
quasi valley
what a mad lad
potent fossil
Notch is like "ow!" to a nerf dart 
zealous knot
he also got away with it
finite wave
zealous wedge
uwu
brave lichen
What is school?
cosmic raft
toml sucks
zealous wedge
it's the thing you're supposed to drop out of
cosmic raft
that is all
potent fossil
Yes
zealous wedge
ty kashike ❤️
spice finch
I tried rust once. Can't hold its syntax and generally it looks very hard
cosmic raft
I'd rather write my configs in assembly
potent fossil
steel pulsar
oh wow it even updates my neovim plugins
quasi valley
bans brocco
void void
whats wrong with toml
cosmic raft
everything
waxen panther
everything
void void
ehhh
waxen panther
:|
zealous wedge
everything
cosmic raft
it's not nice to work with at all
zealous wedge
ini is fine because it's simple
toml tries to stick a whole configuration language into an ini structure
cosmic raft
[http.services]
[http.services.app]
[[http.services.app.weighted.services]]
name = "appv1"
weight = 3
[[http.services.app.weighted.services]]
name = "appv2"
weight = 1
[http.services.appv1]
[http.services.appv1.loadBalancer]
[[http.services.appv1.loadBalancer.servers]]
url = "http://private-ip-server-1/"
[http.services.appv2]
[http.services.appv2.loadBalancer]
[[http.services.appv2.loadBalancer.servers]]
url = "http://private-ip-server-2/"
http:
services:
app:
weighted:
services:
- name: appv1
weight: 3
- name: appv2
weight: 1
appv1:
loadBalancer:
servers:
- url: "http://private-ip-server-1/"
appv2:
loadBalancer:
servers:
- url: "http://private-ip-server-2/"
like look at that
void void
toml is basically ini on steroids
zealous wedge
ya, in a bad way
cosmic raft
yaml looks 100% better
potent fossil
the thing i dont like about toml is that you have to repeat the parent sections for every new subsection
[parent] [parent.child] [parent.child.grandchild] [parent.child.grandchild.great]
like i said, it's pretty yikes
waxen panther
hocon gang hocon gang
cosmic raft
not a fan of hocon either
quasi valley
json
cosmic raft
libraries suck, IDE support sucks
zealous wedge
hocon will be pretty good once i have time to rewrite the parser + emitter
austere ivy
simple, you don't have to. the code snippet you posted actually means, at the bottom level, parent.parent.child.parent.child.grandchild.parent.child.grandchild.great /s
potent fossil
brian i have no idea how that was sarcastic or how you thought it was funny but okay
zealous knot
meanie
austere ivy
is there any specific reason that toml does that as opposed to how yaml does it? or is it just some weird quirk of the language spec that's kept for legacy reasons?
potent fossil
i think toml is just dumb
austere ivy
well that's a shame, it seems nice-ish otherwise
ashen cliff
Every format is dumb.
austere ivy
what do you prefer then, krusic?
ashen cliff
Nothing. Stick and stones. Fire sometimes.
zealous wedge
thank you for your support for once, discord
quasi valley
zealous wedge
[target.'cfg(windows)'.dependencies] also this is so cursed burn it with fire
cosmic raft
wtf
gray shuttle
I tried Velocity for the first time and looked at the config...
Now I can safely say I'm never coming back to Bungeecord ever again
zealous wedge
in yaml that could be
target:
{cfg: windows}:
dependencies:
self_update_crate:
# [...]
XML.
ashen cliff
Just remove new lines, just like in JSON.
zealous wedge
ya, that could be one line in yaml too lol
cosmic raft
goes to make his own configuration language
ashen cliff
{target: {'[object Object]': {dependencies: {self_update_crate: null}}}}
what is this, obj-c?
ashen cliff
I love how it actually broke the minifier.
zealous wedge
heh
yeah, yaml supports collections as keys but a lot of libs don't
which is sad
ashen cliff
When you have a standard without a full implementation. 
frigid shadow
Welcome to the internet
void void
Guys im looking for a NoFlyPVP plugin but all I found are outdated 1.8 bukkit plugins
Anyone that knows one?
Now I found one, nvm
limber knotBOT
<Unknown user (via SASL):[ip]> failed to login to Chew. There have been 1211 failed login attempts since your last successful login. nie
limber knotBOT
not interesting enough
twin lagoon
https://github.com/LoomDev/Loom well what is this
limber knotBOT
wellwellwell
ashen cliff
Daily reminder wget has a continue option.
left swift
😳
limber knotBOT
left swift
Program is calling out ur workout routine
austere ivy
I didn't originally think 1.16.2 was that big of a change from 1.16.1, but from paper's gh it seems like it was. What internally changed in 1.16.2?
zealous knot
code
marble lark
I didn't originally think 1.16.2 was that big of a change from 1.16.1, but from paper's gh it seems like it was. What internally changed in 1.16.2?
@austere ivy packages, method and field names
green pebble
what are the major bugs for the 1.16.2 version of paper should i upgrade my 1.16.1 server to it or should i wait for a full release on the paper site?
austere ivy
rephrasing time. what internal systems changed in 1.16.2?
marble lark
That's what I use Tuinity for maintaining my fork xd
limber knotBOT
marble lark
rephrasing time. what internal systems changed in 1.16.2?
@austere ivy Nothing much besides the naming?
limber knotBOT
i have all perms??? tf
austere ivy
so why is paper 1.16.2 having issues with villages and structures having weird stuff happen to them?
steel pulsar
chmod 7777
marble lark
all Mojang added were Villagers emitting particles when joining a Village and Piglin Brutes
so why is paper 1.16.2 having issues with villages and structures having weird stuff happen to them?
@austere ivy To my knowledge it was always an issue but Mojang set their debugger to print all errors hence why the spam
If i remember correctly that is
brave lichen
Chewy how do you chat through bot?
marble lark
Why's the AI for Mobs just drawing a Vector straight to the Player and then setting the velocity
;-;
steel pulsar
is that eclipse
austere ivy
more important question, is that php on eclipse?
marble lark
Eclipse PDT to be exact
zealous wedge
brian, the whole biomes architecture was redone to be data-driven
and a reasonable chunk of tags was refactored -- so we have optional tags now
plus DFU changes
marble lark
they broke the system with the update lemme guess
austere ivy
ooh yeah I completely forgot about custom biomes
zealous wedge
the big issue is they forgot to put in a data fix
for something, so that data structure doesn't load properly in 1.16.2
you'd hope
marble lark
the big issue is they forgot to put in a data fix
@zealous wedge Is that what updates older world data
zealous wedge
yup
marble lark
I remember coming across a class name Data Fixer something in NMS
zealous wedge
peak dirge
PHP
marble lark
feels like it was 2 weeks ago wtf
zealous wedge
dfu's naming is fairly straightforward -- it's transferred directly from the papers those names are based on :p
left swift
Did you just flashbang the discord chat
zealous wedge
wut
marble lark
Grenade
zealous wedge
use light mode then
marble lark
Man posted a white theme eclipse
Sorreh didn't bother to change theme
zealous wedge
save yourself from blinding
left swift
If you blind yourself first you can be re-blinded
waxen panther
Oh my god not a white image!!
serene bolt
marble lark
$pos = self::getPosition($index, $level);
if ($pos) {
BaseEntity::create($monsters[array_rand($monsters)], $pos);
$monsterCount++;
}What getPosition returns: return new Position($x, $y, $z, $level);
I don't get it why does a Position object become a boolean O.o
austere ivy
in mojang's dfu. note I am not qualified to critique code in any way. I just find this funny
zealous wedge
when they haven't discovered code generation yet
marble lark
in mojang's dfu. note I am not qualified to critique code in any way. I just find this funny
@austere ivy I mean
Doesn't the Spigot API also have weird lines of code too in some areas
to my knowledge Paper hasn't patched it either anyways
austere ivy
spigot's api is exclusively weird lines of code
left swift
spigot
warm anchor
Barty I thought I tab in wrong discord 
marble lark
in some areas
@quasi valley dude the getBukkitEntity method has so many else if statements that even Yandere Simulator's creator would be proud
quasi valley
lol
marble lark
md5 is the best coder around he is our lord and savior
@spare venture I get the feeling md_5 isn't very well liked around here 😛
left swift
We prefer md_3
zealous wedge
he isn't well liked in most places 🙂
left swift
Hes the cool one
quasi valley
no it's obviously just zml being a bully smh
zealous wedge
bullies kneny
marble lark
We prefer md_3
@left swift I can't even tell if that's a joke or if that's a real person now HAHA
left swift
Well look it at like this:
tidal plinth
I love how doing /paper dumpitem in console gives a ClassCastException
on 1.16.1
idk if it was fixed tho haven't updated in like a week
jolly crown
wtf language even was that
potent fossil
looked like hack or something
golden gust
looks like php or something as weird
potent fossil
hack is php with types lmao
marble lark
public function isAlive() : bool {
if($this->alive === true) {
return true;
} else if($this->alive === false) {
return false;
}
}
potent fossil
ok, thanks.
marble lark
I shit you not that's what the Steadfast isAlive method looks like
potent fossil
you use backticks for code, not blockquotes.
yeah, it has to because php is stupid.
tidal plinth
could you not just do return $this->alive?
potent fossil
you can't return that, it might not be a bool
you can in a strongly typed language.
php is not strongly typed.
i love when total pepegas criticize shit they have no idea about
really hits the spot
tidal plinth
kk
marble lark
i love when total pepegas criticize shit they have no idea about
@potent fossil what
potent fossil
It's very clear, I don't think it requires further explanation
left swift
golden gust
there is type hinting which can solve that one iirc
but, last I tried the type hinting was sensitive af and a royale pita
marble lark
you can't return that, it might not be a bool
@potent fossil Not sure if this is relavent but $alive is set to true when the entity is spawned
golden gust
What simp is saying is that php doesn't often expose stuff properly
marble lark
fair enough
austere ivy
type hinting?
golden gust
somebody could accidently assign that to "true", for ex
left swift
Isn't type hinting what tinder is for
potent fossil
yes, and then php would be like "yes it has a value, that is true!"
marble lark
What simp is saying is that php doesn't often expose stuff properly
@golden gust Isn't that sort of true with languages where you don't need to specify variable type
golden gust
Yes, which covers PHP
golden gust
PHP is not strictly typed
golden gust
type hinting is a newer feature which lets you try to fake it as much as viable for PHP, but it's still kinda total ass
potent fossil
spice finch
How Bukkit connects with Bukkit-API? 
As I see server doesn't implement any of api's interfaces
potent fossil
excuse me?
marble lark
How Bukkit connects with Bukkit-API? :thinkDerp: As I see server doesn't implement any of api's interfaces
@spice finch ?
marble lark
Pretty sure it does
CDFN, just. Walk away.
@potent fossil Dude you need to chill go make coffee or something jeez
golden gust
Bukkit is an org name...
golden gust
wat
cunning raft
trolls should be banned
left swift
.typing
limber knotBOT
marble lark
CraftServer implements Server if that's what you're asking
golden gust
CB inits that class somewhere with the setServer method
potent fossil
I need to chill apparently for having a stroke when people are absolutely braindead?
spice finch
Probably I'm looking at wrong classes
golden gust
wouldn't be having a stroke if you where chill
potent fossil
i refuse.
marble lark
and for some reason getHandle in CraftServer returns a DedicatedPlayerList
void void
Hello
frigid shadow
What does connect?
austere ivy
my ducks are bullying my dog, this is an issue
potent fossil
ok, go stop them then
austere ivy
I have tried, they actively chase dog around the yard
marble lark
I need to chill apparently for having a stroke when people are absolutely braindead?
@potent fossil As they said, they were looking at the wrong classes and probably thought the Bukkit class was responsible for implementing the interfaces
potent fossil
ok
spice finch
I liked that flame tho
left swift
Get ur ducks in a line
marble lark
poor dog
@austere ivy Wait till you see cats chase birds
frigid shadow
.typing
limber knotBOT
spice finch
"Someone knows less than me, BraInDeAD"
marble lark
https://i.imgur.com/PBTgDLi.gif
@Korobi#0000 my eyes ahahaha
potent fossil
yes I understand what they were doing sherman. You're missing a whole shitload of context, CDFN has been here long enough that he should be reasonably well informed about the architecture seeing as he codes.
That's why I was like "wtf"
But, ok.
spice finch
yes I understand what they were doing sherman. You're missing a whole shitload of context, CDFN has been here long enough that he should be reasonably well informed about the architecture seeing as he codes.
Simp, not everyone is alpha and omega
frigid shadow
marble lark
maybe they were trolling lolol
potent fossil
But hey, whatever
marble lark
I always do that when my class tries to teach me scratch
spice finch
Wow, haven't you had situation in school where you didn't know thing which you're supposed to know?
left swift
Simp is new wiz
marble lark
can y'all just drop it jesus christ
potent fossil
Maybe I just ask better questions than that, I guess. Whatever, carry on.
pulsar wigeon
potent fossil
henlo wiz
left swift
marble lark
at this point I've gone from trying to fix it out of goodwill to having my soul being drained out
left swift
That's life
zealous wedge
having a soul
that's your problem
marble lark
that's your problem
nice
limber knotBOT
Reminder for DiscordBot: @worn ember big bird
left swift
Lol
marble lark
That's life
That's the fork of PMMP a particular Partnered Server uses O.O
left swift
Cool
hallow swallow
Anyone has experience with pocket edition servers?
is it harder to set up?
is there even plugins
how does that all work?
potent fossil
Nukkit exists for pure bedrock, but a lot of people these days run paper and geyser in which case you can use paper plugins, and geyser lets bedrock players connect via a proxy layer.
Geyser has its own discord, so go there for those specific questions. As for paper, it's a standard set up.
potent fossil
Don't know what to tell you then.
Nukkit exists. I've never had a great time with it.
hallow swallow
what is that?
marble lark
Try Nukkit and MiNET
potent fossil
It's like bukkit...but for bedrock.
marble lark
both are rather good Bedrock servers
hallow swallow
do they have plugins like spigot?
marble lark
yep
potent fossil
Some.
marble lark
Nukkit does, MiNET not so much
hallow swallow
k
potent fossil
Oh, right. Ok. My bad.
I just won't answer you at all.
Good luck with that shit.
marble lark
this is Paper general to be fair, Paper Support is paper-help and paper-dev 😛
worn ember
left swift
Big bird ded
marble lark
ded
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@potent fossil uwu
limber knotBOT
uwu
potent fossil
uwu
zealous knot
uwu
limber knotBOT
Twitter
twin lagoon
uwu
zealous wedge
uwu
spice finch
lul
marble lark
that reminds me anyway since geyser exists are there any Proxies that let Java players join Bedrock servers to troll all the other players there
twin lagoon
n
potent fossil
Geyser standalone.
twin lagoon
geyser standalone is from bedrock to java
zealous wedge
nah, what sherman wants is reverse geyser
potent fossil
oh
limber knotBOT
Geyser to allow Bedrock to join Java, bigBrother to allow Java to join Bedrock
potent fossil
I didn't read that lol
limber knotBOT
Bedrock -> Java -> Bedrock
potent fossil
potent fossil
plz no
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kashie!
restive thicket
It’s an old PocketMine plugin.
cosmic raft
restive thicket
Well, I think it’s still updated? But only supports 1.12?
limber knotBOT
marble lark
it would be hilarious if I could connect to Bedrock with my Forge Client HAHAHA
quasi valley
bigbrother is also a horrible reality tv show in germany
twin lagoon
i do not understand who's idea it was to write minecraft server software in f u c k i n g php
limber knotBOT
there's 1.14.4 builds it seems
worn ember
ur mum
zealous wedge
blame shogi michael
marble lark
i do not understand who's idea it was to write minecraft server software in f u c k i n g php
To be fair it got ported to Java and in MiNET's case C#
left swift
Big brother is just a horrible reality tv show everywhere
austere ivy
I wait for a minecraft server written in assembly. finally, then, it'll be optimized. filthy java is the reason minecraft is unperformant /s
marble lark
I wait for a minecraft server written in assembly. finally, then, it'll be optimized. filthy java is the reason minecraft is unperformant /s
@austere ivy noob
zealous wedge
dw everyone complained about it when they were first writing the project
marble lark
write MC in machine language
zealous wedge
didn't stop them
left swift
It was big in the us in like 2010
marble lark
nonono one step further write MC in direct opcode/ISA instructions
left swift
Quote pinging a message directly above you 🤡
frigid shadow
Minecraft in cobol
marble lark
perform operations on the actual bits themselves
subtle swallow
So how does one get roles here
twin lagoon
what roles
limber knotBOT
what roles
left swift
Role call
marble lark
Quote pinging a message directly above you 🤡
@left swift :))
limber knotBOT
theyre all well described
subtle swallow
Purr for example
limber knotBOT
be a cat
mortal zinc
two ways
marble lark
Purr for example
wut
twin lagoon
purrrrr
zealous wedge
demonstrate your ability to post cat photos
limber knotBOT
around kashike
zealous wedge
specifically of your own cat
twin lagoon
mortal zinc
you either earn the role, or you are a famous person, because, y'know, fame isn't logical but it's used in place of earning a role
zealous wedge
see i did #2
mortal zinc
so go be famous, it's easier that way
carmine shell
.wa define can't
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) No results.
left swift
What
carmine shell
👀
spice finch
it's not what .wa is usedfor i think
zealous wedge
.wa 2+2
potent fossil
claiming that access to the kitties channel requires an unfair judgement of fame
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) Result: 4 - https://is.gd/qI3MoC
mortal zinc
i once had a role here
carmine shell
wa searches wolframalpha
potent fossil
that's refutably false
marble lark
i do not understand who's idea it was to write minecraft server software in f u c k i n g php
Also whoever wrote PMMP actually succeeded writing it in PHP so hey dude's a genius
limber knotBOT
wa is wolfram alpha
twin lagoon
wolfram can define words
potent fossil
people who are "famous" in here have been removed for being total duncewagons
mortal zinc
but then it was taken away, i guess i stopped doing what i did to get the role in the first place
limber knotBOT
.wa define epic
(chew) Result: 1 | adjective | very imposing or impressive; surpassing the ordinary (especially in size or scale) 2 | adjective | constituting or having to do with or suggestive of a literary epic 3 | noun | a long narrative poem telling of a hero's deeds - https://is.gd/ZyAZuD
spice finch
cosmic raft
@twin lagoon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPLN5HXsq04
marble lark
hamster
potent fossil
kash, how does it feel to run a channel that people are so enamored by that they think you have to be famous to be granted access and are salty because of it
twin lagoon
that's not a hamster wtf
potent fossil
in 30 words or less
cosmic raft
in 30 words or less?
potent fossil
yes
marble lark
dafuq is a chinchilla
left swift
That food from taco bell with cinnamon
cosmic raft
twin lagoon
I would like to do a shoutout to my mom
Getting access to #adorable-pets makes me a notable person
potent fossil
Perfect answer kash
twin lagoon
and I have to be thankful of that
potent fossil
thank you.
limber knotBOT
same energy of joining an irc channel and asking how to get voiced
mortal zinc
lol
subtle swallow
limber knotBOT
cute
potent fossil
quality kitty
twin lagoon
where's rory
limber knotBOT
i will send rory pic
twin lagoon
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u dont subscribe to onlypurrs??
mortal zinc
@twin lagoon whose mouth even is that btw
twin lagoon
.g pogchamp knowyourmeme
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/pogchamp -- PogChamp | Know Your Meme: "PogChamp, also known as "Pog Champion" or "Play of Game Champ," is one of the oldest emotes on Twitch. The emote is used as a way to express..."
worn ember
pog champ
mortal zinc
i c
worn ember
.birb
potent fossil
@minor badge uwu birb
limber knotBOT
birb
fallen parcel
Okay i almost am there.
So anyone have any clue how i would edit this file to automatically load/unload resource packs when entering a specific world?
you can see here in this file where i tried.
what am i doing wrong? T.T
p.s one person told me im actually supposed to be using the original world name in some places, if this is the name you can pull when going to world select in single player, selecting it and pressing edit, then i see name as
PokéWorld 1.12
.
To add an extra layer of confusion to i am using JED to handle these dimensions, so the world on my server i want to do this with is actually in a folder called DIM53 rather than a folder named "RED" or "PokéWorld 1.12". idk if that matters or not.
plz save me T.T
worn ember
we need a birb command
minor badge
uwu
twin lagoon
what the fuck is JED
potent fossil
1.12
limber knotBOT
just energetic disassociation
potent fossil
unsupported sorry m8
twin lagoon
\
left swift
Didn't know what Pog is 
limber knotBOT
DOGGO?
zealous wedge
omg doggo
limber knotBOT
whats that green thing
zealous wedge
also imagine not subscribing to onlypurrs
minor badge
@zealous wedge fork birbfetcher to kittyfetcher when
fallen parcel
JED=JustenoughDimensions
zealous wedge
that's work 😦
fallen parcel
it is a mod
twin lagoon
hey guess what it's a mod
potent fossil
1.12 is not a supported server version, but I've never heard of loading a res pack on world entry (sans plugin)...
potent fossil
We don't do mod support here.
potent fossil
Here's the thing guys.
worn ember
we dont do simping here
fallen parcel
i go to one place they say no mod support
minor badge
here's the thing, it's not paper
fallen parcel
then i got o another and they say no p lugin support
potent fossil
Paper is not Minecraft Support.
twin lagoon
papermc is software for 1.15.2+
fallen parcel
but i use both so
potent fossil
Paper is for Paper.
zealous wedge
that's great, now leave
worn ember
toxic community again smh
fallen parcel
i thought magma uses paper?
twin lagoon
magma is magma
minor badge
magma is not paper
potent fossil
If you run multiple softwares, then you have multiple support channels. We don't support your modded server just because you also run Paper.
fallen parcel
sorry to bother you guys
minor badge
i aint asking microsoft support for help on my android phone
potent fossil
Go to Forge or whatever, which is likely what your modded server is running on.
golden gust
it's not forge
limber knotBOT
magma is absolutely unsupported (and frowned upon too?)
fallen parcel
yea they say i think no support for plugins
golden gust
its' an abomination between paper and forge
potent fossil
my god.
worn ember
laughs in sponge
twin lagoon
if you use magma, ask in the magma discord
potent fossil
Wtf is magma? Why are you not using sponge
marble lark
i aint asking microsoft support for help on my android phone
That's what my mom did actually
potent fossil
.g magma mc
zealous wedge
forge doesn't support 1.12 anymore
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Magma_Block -- Magma Block – Official Minecraft Wiki: "A magma block is a light-emitting naturally-occurring block found in the Nether and ... Magma blocks also generate as a part of underwater ruins. ......"
worn ember
plugins are mods tho 🙂
twin lagoon
magma is scuffed chinese paper forge hybrid @potent fossil
potent fossil
why????
fallen parcel
spnge breaks everything
golden gust
Basically, everybody sane in the community knows that supporting those headaches is far from worth it,nobody wants to deal with the mess it causes
potent fossil
wtf
zealous wedge
you'll get yourself banned nice and quickly if you try to ask there
zealous wedge
if you think sponge breaks everything it's probably a your server problem :p
twin lagoon
ask in magma's discord
marble lark
its' an abomination between paper and forge
@golden gust hold on a second how is that even possible?
fallen parcel
mmagma they cant help there
potent fossil
why would anybody do such a thing
worn ember
thats not entirerly true z0w0
limber knotBOT
forge submodule + stolen paper code
golden gust
you can send an empty resource pack to reset the loaded packs on the client
worn ember
ive had modpacks break on sponge too
fallen parcel
cus they dont support help for mods and plugins i think
marble lark
Forge keeps the Minecraft packaging intact
@golden gust hold on a second how is that even possible?
twin lagoon
then you're on your own
golden gust
wut
zealous wedge
it doesn't break everything -- there is a list of known mod conflicts :p
potent fossil
At this point my dude, you are responsible for your own server. If you run something and you can't find dedicated support, then you are on your own. You are ultimately responsible for your own (bad) choices.
marble lark
Spigot and all forks literally rip out every single class and puts them in the NMS package
fallen parcel
i mean not really @twin lagoon
i just ask randomly until someone knows, and is nice enough to help xD
twin lagoon
well
granite salmon
soon there'll be something named after every mc block
marble lark
how do you even manage to mix then?
potent fossil
Yikes. What a way to run a server.
golden gust
Sponge digs fairly deep into a fair number of places and does a lot of good work on maintaining mod compat
magic ice
ah yeah I remember magma, hackiest mess you've ever seen 😂
potent fossil
Hop discords and ask everybody until you get an answer.
magic ice
bukkit + forge do not play well together at all
golden gust
They've often gone so far as to work with mod developers, even if some are more pain to deal with than worth
zealous wedge
why are you still here
fallen parcel
xD
worn ember
seems like we need paper 3.0
potent fossil
Yeah when people disregard what our community is for, we're "rough". Sure. Why not
fallen parcel
i was told by a user to ask here
golden gust
I gave you a hint as to how to do it
marble lark
bukkit + forge do not play well together at all
How do they even play together at all
fallen parcel
i dont know where i am
potent fossil
aight back to birb pics uwu
golden gust
/really/ magma should have their own support place
twin lagoon
instead of going to general directly
marble lark
Yeah when people disregard what our community is for, we're "rough". Sure. Why not
Eh sometimes newcomers are pretty lost sometimes
potent fossil
can you imagine not knowing what discord you're in and asking anyway
i can't brain that
i really can't
fallen parcel
iv only been in like 40 discord servers for mc, this is the most agro server iv been in for sure.
twin lagoon
lol
limber knotBOT
Even though there's a channel clearly labeled #paper-help
worn ember
hes not wrong tbh xD
zealous wedge
lol
marble lark
Eh sometimes newcomers are pretty lost sometimes
*Flashbacks to a few years ago where Proximyst and JanTuck were railing on me on the Spigot forums because I was new to plugins and my code was horrible
potent fossil
What are we supposed to do? Just support every software on the planet because otherwise we get labled as rude and aggressive?
Is that really the expectation?
limber knotBOT
sorry if our stern "we only support paper" is considered aggressive to you...
fallen parcel
but any way i do apologize if i have done anything to offend, or bother you guys, il dip now as requested, peace, hope you all have a great day.
minor badge
i still do that, sherman <3
worn ember
or you could just ignore it like half the other messages :p
potent fossil
marble lark
but any way i do apologize if i have done anything to offend, or bother you guys, il dip now as requested, peace, hope you all have a great day.
You're welcome to stay if you like to chat though 😉
golden gust
I mean, I gave you a general hint, as to how you wanna do that, 🤷♂️
marble lark
i still do that, sherman <3
D:
zealous wedge
you have to weed the garden at some point
limber knotBOT
this is simply vibe
minor badge
@zealous wedge :0
zealous wedge
you couldn't afford it 😳
left swift
People are so whiny and entitled now a days holy fuck
worn ember
wow calling me poor 😢
fallen parcel
@marble lark
Appreciate the offer, but gona have to pass, seems like not a pleasant place.
potent fossil
LMAO
"ima hop into a random discord, ask a question completely unrelated to the software-"
"NANI? THEY'RE MAD AT ME?"
this is not support for magma
"what a rude and aggressive and not nice place."
limber knotBOT
wow
worn ember
@zealous wedge i'll have you know my dad owns paperspigot
limber knotBOT
@worn ember [Auto] We're now known as Paper.
marble lark
@marble lark
Appreciate the offer, but gona have to pass, seems like not a pleasant place.
@fallen parcel No prob, just look for me if you want to ask something else though I'll always be open 🙂
magic ice
zealous wedge
daddy Z750 @worn ember?
limber knotBOT
@redned can I ask for BigBrother support on geyser server please i need help
marble lark
@worn ember [Auto] We're now known as Paper.
wut
left swift
marble lark
Wasn't it always known as Paper
marble lark
lemme try something
limber knotBOT
It was paper(shutupkorobi)spigot pre-1.8 I believe
minor badge
if it was, why would we have a message for it?
marble lark
paperspigot
limber knotBOT
@marble lark [Auto] We're now known as Paper.
worn ember
speaking of which, been a while since i've seen him
marble lark
HAHAHAHA
limber knotBOT
why is that hilarios
zealous wedge
please don't spam
left swift
Are you like an alien or something
marble lark
why is that hilarios
Who knows
limber knotBOT
you do, thats why i asked
worn ember
i laugh when i see my code after a sleepless night
marble lark
i laugh when i see my code after a sleepless night
SAME
limber knotBOT
sleepless night, my fork of silent night
magic ice
I do wonder if that'd work chew 😂
join through geyser using bedrock which is pointed towards big brother running on a pocketmine server
worn ember
limber knotBOT
anyway ship the real reason we're mad is because you asked in the off topic meme channel instead of #paper-help
magic ice
they left the server