general

[twin lagoon]

basically the same thing

[bold zephyr]

unless im not seeing it somewhere

hmm

[twin lagoon]

now if you want to spend more money

get the 3700x

should still be cheaper than a 9900

[steel pulsar]

hetzner is also fuckin nice because of the install script they provide your new server with

where you pick the distro and storage settings, RAID level etc

[tender flower]

@unreal quarry I saw you were the one who submitted the last code update for Shop, any chance you updated it for 1.16.1?

[twin lagoon]

craftadia doesn't run on 2288gs either

no reason to, though that might change w/ async entity tracking

[bold zephyr]

im not really looking to spend more money, but i am looking to not have to worry about an upgrade anytime soon

im currently on i7-4790k's and theyre just not handling it well

[twin lagoon]

4790ks are definitely an issue yes

9 mc servers

2 e-2136g's

[bold zephyr]

so the 3600 can handle an apache server, a mysql server, a waterfall, a hub, and two full servers

[twin lagoon]

it's kinda cramped yeah

[bold zephyr]

without bottlenecking at the cpu

[twin lagoon]

use nginx & mariadb

and yes

no we're waiting for async entity tracking

[bold zephyr]

mb we do use nginx and mariadb

i forgot we swapped to nginx

[twin lagoon]

people

[steel pulsar]

pay someone on mcmarket to make it

[serene bolt]

mason

[twin lagoon]

well

he's ex-craftimize actually

and it's beautiful

paper

magic™️

you wish

no that's just local testing

one is paper, other is w/ async

yes

2.2k zombies

meanwhile w/ async entity tracking you get 3.3k zombies at 25ms

[bold zephyr]

mojang

[twin lagoon]

i don't have issues with most of those

[steel pulsar]

ypu missed the most important flaw

everythings still made of fucking blocsk like holy shit it's been what 11 years

I'll be here all week

[zealous wedge]

it's not all blocks, there's entities too

and if you want to go full mojang, it's not blocks, it's tiles

[limber knot]

well not all blocks are tiles

every block you interact with i think is

idk

[quasi valley]

no

[zealous wedge]

nah the old mojang name for the Block class was Tile

that's why BlockEntities are called tile entities

[finite wave]

TileEntities are just blocks with data right?

[zealous wedge]

yeah

but the class pairing is named badly

[steel pulsar]

call it whatever you want.. it's got four corners and it looks like a lego

[zealous wedge]

ok, Lego and LegoEntity

[steel pulsar]

blockGameEntity

blockGameBlock

[zealous wedge]

go pop open Enigma and make the mappings you want to see in the world

or use 🍫 loom and create a mappings overlay

[void void]

holy shit block game consists of blocks

[finite wave]

what

[void void]

unbelievable, fuck this shit

[zealous wedge]

block is made of block? what

[zealous knot]

What are blocks though

[fallen eagle]

is it possible to connect a normal vanilla forge server to waterfall ?

[limber knot]

vanilla, > forge, what

[finite wave]

Forge is somewhat supported sure.

[limber knot]

and isnt that what waterfall is designed for

[zealous wedge]

you can theoretically

[finite wave]

Use velocity tho.

https://www.velocitypowered.com/

[limber knot]

velocity

yes

[zealous wedge]

forge >1.13 does its handshake too early in the login sequence, so all clients will appear as vanilla clients

[zealous knot]

gotta say

minecraft server project names suck

velocity

waterfall

spigot

forge

like

what the fuck

[limber knot]

?

[finite wave]

He is just weird don't listen to him.

[zealous knot]

stfu jan truck

[limber knot]

they do have a distinct ring to them

[spice finch]

jan truck

lol

[zealous knot]

imagine what this chat looks like to a new an uninformed users lmfao

[spice finch]

sorry jan it made me laugh

[zealous knot]

they probably get so confused

[void void]

what would you name the projects

[zealous knot]

i didn't say i have better ideas, i am retarded after all, im just saying i'm not a fan of the current ones

[void void]

pr or shutup

[zealous knot]

succ my cocc

[void void]

i'd have to suck it out inside of you first then

[zealous knot]

stahp it i'm insecure

[void void]

haha nano pp

[limber knot]

woah drama in #freenode lmao

[void void]

nothing new

[limber knot]

some dude swore and someone responded with "woah watch you're language there's kids here" then dude responds with "low effort bait", then he accuses him of being a pedo and leaves

[void void]

that's no drama

that's a pure retardation

[limber knot]

true

https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/zAnWyHGW/image.png

were they bored or whatever

[spice finch]

IRC dramas

btw

kids
irc

[waxen panther]

[true canyon]

What is this 2001

[limber knot]

it's funny because #freenode was founded Febuary 9th, 2001

february*

meaning it's literally older than me lol

[finite wave]

same

[waxen panther]

i always knew jan was 12

[heavy jetty]

Would you guys recommend Apache or NGINX for a webserver? Ptero says both work

[waxen panther]

nginx

[heavy jetty]

👍 ty

[zealous wedge]

owg chew u baby

[limber knot]

uwu

[mental meadow]

little chew

little kitten

[limber knot]

of course

[spice finch]

people not over 30 using irc

wow

[limber knot]

lots of us are under 30 and using irc

why are you not using irc CDFN

[mental meadow]

Now I feel old with my 21

[limber knot]

born before the year 2000 gang

you're 21 aurora!?!?! arawra

[mental meadow]

Yes :o

[quasi valley]

ororor

[spice finch]

i used irc once when i had to ask smth about fabric

not bad

but don't see difference between discord

[mental meadow]

Not for long tho

kneny that sounds French somehow

[limber knot]

cuz there's no h

you have to pronounce it badly to get the full french experience tho

[zealous knot]

bruh is it your birthday aurora

[quasi valley]

ororé

[mental meadow]

13.08

[quasi valley]

ororà*

[zealous knot]

oh

[mental meadow]

oreo

[zealous knot]

next month

[limber knot]

oh hey we'll overlap in age aurora

[mental meadow]

Yay

[limber knot]

for 2 months lol

[quasi valley]

that's the weirdest way of "we're the same age" (now or later) I've ever heard

[zealous knot]

you know what's stranger?

[limber knot]

ty kneny

[zealous knot]

being 54 years older

[quasi valley]

we overlap in age

[limber knot]

someone you havent met before

[spice finch]

that looked even better on fabric

[finite wave]

Broc, i'm actually 9 /s

[limber knot]

oh

[wide chasm]

Look at all these boomers over 20 /s

[limber knot]

hi CDFN

[mental meadow]

Hey technically I'm a millennial

[limber knot]

ok zoomer

BAN IMMINENT

k​ne​ny​tv​: uhm, the wirdest is clearly "hey, our parents might've had sex at the same time"

[zealous knot]

CDFN why do you use that shite webirc client jfc

[quasi valley]

lmao

[limber knot]

aren't we a cusp generation? we get to be zillenials

jan delete that immediantly or youll get sniped

[spice finch]

Mister, it was on spi.gt so 👀

[limber knot]

you cant joke about that

[spice finch]

Just wanted to check it out

[zealous knot]

ah

irccloud ❤️

[finite wave]

chew you are too sensitive

[limber knot]

jan, you have bad taste in jokes

someone who hates you can just report that to discord and youd be gone forever 😢

[zealous knot]

yeah i must slightly agree with jan

[spice finch]

sorry I got confused, is chew girl? (please don't be angry)

[limber knot]

ya she is

[finite wave]

chew is a chew

[mental meadow]

let chew be soft 2020

[quasi valley]

chew is a brown hairy giant

[limber knot]

chew is chew

[mighty storm]

chew is cute

[limber knot]

chew but as soft as rory

uwu

[zealous knot]

choo is a sloth

[limber knot]

:3

:3

[mental meadow]

:3

[limber knot]

implementing permissions on the mod panel so i can hire people to handle report and approve memes for me

[mental meadow]

Stop stalking us Alice

[limber knot]

oh nice you're paying people?

lmao were not even paying ourselves

we pay to keep it running

don't pull that uni club bs where you call volunteer positions "hiring" then

😠

it's a reverse hire

by CDFN

you pay us to work

*bye

ah, so it's practicum

[spice finch]

ye dont forgot you still work for me

[limber knot]

I mean, paying for working is basically just selling admin positions, lol

well no

we have different role hierarchy in the system

there's triage who manage reports and approve memes

mods can delete memes, users, etc

*selling mod positions

[void void]

Hi guys I just bought a Spigot Course

[mental meadow]

Mh would anyone want to pay to be mod here?

[limber knot]

admins can manage users

[void void]

yes I wiuld

[spice finch]

wait why irc doesn't bridge my messages 🤔

[finite wave]

Mineacademy mats?

[limber knot]

and founder is us and we can verify you

i'll pay $5 if i get to ban everyone

did you register your nick CDFN

[void void]

Mineacademy is way to expensive

[spice finch]

ye now i got popup haha

[mental meadow]

Ok I'll DM you my PayPal

[finite wave]

Good you didn't buy it

[limber knot]

mineacademy is a scam

[finite wave]

Just go to jetbrains academy and learn java.

[limber knot]

jetbrains academy is free right?

I should make my own spigot courses for free

[twin lagoon]

they're not free

[void void]

I bought a Spigot course because just java is boring

[limber knot]

start your own mooc chew

or, you know, use oracles tutorials 👀

and put minecademy and all the paid services out of business

[finite wave]

They are free for a month or so if you do a project iirc

[void void]

wait what

[limber knot]

codecademy is pretty good too

[void void]

this dude fell for that mineacademy bs?

[limber knot]

oh no

[finite wave]

Jetbrains acedemy https://i.imgur.com/L3KVbGM.png

[void void]

oh no

[true canyon]

A lot of people fall for mineacademy.

[finite wave]

Seems like you can get 2 months for free if you actually do stuffo n here https://i.imgur.com/8i5fra4.png

[limber knot]

.

[spice finch]

irc cool

[limber knot]

I'll say it again to people who don't know, Minecademy is a scam, do not buy any "Spigot" or "Minecraft" courses, there are plenty of FREE places to learn Java.

[spice finch]

lol

[limber knot]

nice to be considered as bot

[slim nymph]

<bans the irc bridge>

[finite wave]

Do it

No balls

[limber knot]

oh god oh heck

how do you ban the bridge

if you wanted to delete irc youd have to delete the webhook

yeah, buying a spigot course is like buying a toyota camry driving course

which youd never do ❤️

you could ban the bot and we wouldn't hear anything

[golden gust]

/me sets mode +m

[limber knot]

but we could still scream

make sure to voice us before that :p

[vagrant niche]

Aaaaaaaaah

[limber knot]

a b c d e f g hello everybody uwu j k LMAO p q r s t u v double you x why z

Only difference I can see is just other UI

and this cool BOT "badge" on discord 8)

there's colors

aaaaaaaaa

:0

only the best colours here

[quasi valley]

and stinky people like chewy or zöml

[limber knot]

does it support minimessage syntax?

how dare u

i am not stinky

you could make a minimessage plugin for your irc client

i showered recently

i am stinky (bc i've only recently woken up, and not showered yet)

go take shower

mysqlworkbench can you don't freeze

[finite wave]

use datagrip

[twin lagoon]

datagrip >

[limber knot]

isnt that jetbrains sql thingy

[finite wave]

yes

[twin lagoon]

yes\

and it's beautiful

[finite wave]

https://i.imgur.com/hBSCK5n.png

[limber knot]

not using phpMyAdmin

use phpmyadmin

[finite wave]

ffs cdfn

Don't repeat what phoenix says

[limber knot]

hes reading my minds

so

i use phpmyadmin to create tables and modify them, but to modify and load data it's much easier on mysql workbench

never used it gonna try

[twin lagoon]

datagrip is great

[limber knot]

toolbox takes forever to load geez

IRC not that bad, atleast it works somehow with 1Mbps for 2 PCs

I only use it on windows as xampp has it built in ¯_(ツ)_/¯

https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/v0kGJPcP/image.png

[finite wave]

open it

[limber knot]

but I never really need to touch the mysql anyways so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

phoenix, say that you're using mongodb

[finite wave]

He is using protobuffers

[limber knot]

https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/IlvC3kFF/image.png

https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/R15pkMpM/image.png

uh... well that's weird

[finite wave]

get a better client nub

[limber knot]

so -SNAPSHOT means it can change right

[finite wave]

no

[limber knot]

your honor my client would like to plead oopsie daisies https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/AOXU2u0h/image.png

currently using irccloud.com, are there any better thingies for irc?

depends on what you mean

[finite wave]

thelounge

[limber knot]

better branches off into many diffeernt dirrections

yes, irssi is the best IRC client

runs

afaik irccloud is the most up to date ircv3-wise

mirc is close behind

but a lot of networks don't support it so it's not overly necessary

lol nice https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/m0MC9dtF/image.png

also why do you care for the formatting of rule breaking messages anyways?

wdym phoenix?

that logs/code should be pasted to some site?

[finite wave]

Should have used paste

[limber knot]

the bridge bot auto pastes stupid long shit

CDFN: if you paste something long irccloud will offer to paste it for you

poor dumcord peopel have to live with their chat getting spammed

o ye i see

so thats not bad

[true canyon]

weechat beats irssi for console based stuff

[finite wave]

limechat ftw

[limber knot]

that's, like, just your opinion :P

[spice finch]

Nice toy, but I have more "networks" on Discord 😛

[limber knot]

irssi does all the things that I need it to do

tell them to add irc bridges or just never be there like I do, lol

thats the problem with discord

glances at the spigot discord

back on irc all you needed was one channel for everything

[spice finch]

I wonder if there would be any client with discord support if it wans't against tos

[limber knot]

now it's one server with 99% unnecessary channels

[spice finch]

i just muted out

[limber knot]

Any client is as long as you're through a bot or webhook

[spice finch]

channels which I dont read

[limber knot]

I mean, third party discord clients are a thing and tolerated/supported by the discord devs so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[spice finch]

huh?

[limber knot]

discordircd was? an implementation of the discord api as an irc network

[spice finch]

I'm pretty sure that they're against ToS

[limber knot]

doesn't change the fact that you can't possibly be 100% part of a discord community due to them spamming the shit out of different channels

C​DF​N: reverse engineering their stuff is

using them isn't

back on the esper days, you could easily be on many channels

all you had to do is /j stuff

[spice finch]

But.. aren't they like selfbots?

[limber knot]

no?

selfbotting is against tos I believe

[serene bolt]

phoenix, it's actually really weird when I see you type in the spigot discord staff channel because I don't see bot next to your name :P

[limber knot]

but custom client isnt necessarily a selfbot

[spice finch]

Yes, that's why I thought3rd party would be

[limber knot]

a selfbot is a program which automatically does stuff but claims that it's a user account

and not a bot account

[void void]

calling a custom client flat out userbot is retarded

[limber knot]

yeah those are banned

xD pure

pheonix is spigot staff woaaaa

[zealous knot]

say something controversial

[limber knot]

also discord can't even do anything against third party clients without shutting down their website, lol

something controversial

gotcha

[zealous knot]

good

[spice finch]

against selfbots too

without shutting their accounts

[limber knot]

selfbots ≠ custom clients

[finite wave]

make an easyanticheat for discord

[spice finch]

ik chew

now

ik

[limber knot]

they don't really care about selfbotting unless it abuses the api

[spice finch]

they can't really tell if someone is using selfbot or not

[zealous knot]

i think you're wrong choo

[limber knot]

they already analyze your behaviour pattern, your messages and where you login from to ban bot/spam accounts ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[spice finch]

till they abuse some endpoint

[limber knot]

they can easily tell that

[zealous knot]

my friend was banned for a modified client

[limber knot]

they just don't care

[finite wave]

You got weird freinds fix

[zealous knot]

ok boomer

[spice finch]

I used to use Better Discord, it allowed me for better themes

[finite wave]

You're more boomer than me my man

[spice finch]

funny gadget

but it was against tos also

[zealous knot]

^

[limber knot]

unless your headers and origin match discord, it's really clear it's not from the client

[zealous knot]

that's why i stopped using it

[serene bolt]

I know many people who have been banned while using a 3rd party client, but it's probably likely they were doing other bad things that caused the ban so...

[zealous knot]

i didnt wanna get my account nuked

it's kind of important to me

[spice finch]

only thing you're losing

is your user id

[limber knot]

the most insane thing is that discord still exposes hidden channels and their topics

[spice finch]

after banning

[limber knot]

I just use custom css, no harm in it really

yeah phoenix616 lmao

[serene bolt]

yeah phoenix i have no idea how that has not been changed

[limber knot]

and roles

[spice finch]

ye phoenix, im shocked that they didn't fix it lol

[limber knot]

the worst thing is every time a topic or name is updated, it notifiesd everyone on the server

[finite wave]

Yeah a lot of people see my sex dungeon and want to join it, like no wtf it's mine.

[limber knot]

I guess technically it's the same on most irc servers but still

[spice finch]

Wouldn't hiding these channels help performance?

[limber knot]

maybe it's due to some important backend dev at discord using their own IRC implementation on top of discord because they hate the client too xD

I use custom css to hide the awful gift and nitro buttons

like im not wasting money on your garbage platform lmao

oh, that's an interesting question: can you make discord clients crash due to channels hidden to them but still getting loaded somehow

[young tendon]

wait, so does discord tell the client about all the channels, then the client decides which ones it can see listed?

[limber knot]

yeah

[young tendon]

thats uh

[limber knot]

it's permission based I guess

if you cant read you cant see

yeah, the client receives all permissions of all users in the guild and then decides what to do with that info

which is weird, even if you can send you still cant send

so drop boxes arent really a thing :/;

[young tendon]

so the way they did it, they assume they can always trust the client

[limber knot]

Exactly

only thing actually checked is if you can read or send messages

[young tendon]

which I guess is why they don't like having other clients...

[limber knot]

It's not like you can view message history

*actually checked server side

[young tendon]

yeah

[limber knot]

it's not really a security issue as long as you don't put sensitive info in the channel name/topic

👀

You can tell the client "Hey, this server is partnered, give me partner perks" and it wouldn't bat an eye, but if you actually try to do partner stuff like set a banner, you'll get 403'd

[young tendon]

lol imma start storing my password as discord channel names

ah

[limber knot]

client and server mismatches are rare but they happen

server gets final say as you'd expect

ooh, I should try playing with mitm the discord info to see what I can get my client to do/crash lol

(if I'm ever bored, lol)

Yeah

[young tendon]

oh so how are you two talking as bots? is it one bot connected to irc that switches pictures?

[limber knot]

I always like to enable developer mode and turn on experiments

webhooks

.g github zachbr dis4irc

(phoenix616) https://github.com/zachbr/Dis4IRC -- zachbr/Dis4IRC: A modern Discord <-> IRC bridge - GitHub: "A modern Discord <-> IRC bridge. Contribute to zachbr/Dis4IRC development by creating an account on GitHub."

it's in kotlin though, be careful

[young tendon]

oh neat a link!

oh

[void void]

be careful

nothing wrong with kotlin

[limber knot]

well, it's suspiciously like not-java

but still java

kotlin is the child of someone taking the intellij java shortcut/autocomplete functions and making its own, unreadable language from it

[young tendon]

lol

I'm looking at the code just to see what kotlin is like, and I miss seeing type declarations

[limber knot]

functions are just "fun" like what the hell

[finite wave]

kotlin isn't that unreadable

[limber knot]

I mean in Java you don't need type declarations

[grand pewter]

it's way more fun that way chew

[limber knot]

yeah, the reduced verbosity compared to java is one of its major falws :S

11+ you can do var bob = "String";

[mental meadow]

Bad chew

[finite wave]

You can also define types in kotlin if you want.,

[limber knot]

but people don't

a language that encourages bad practices is a bad language

[finite wave]

No we don't cause why would we.

[limber knot]

what did i do arawra

[mental meadow]

Var

[young tendon]

so I knew C# has variants (or var for short) but I forgot that java had something like that

[limber knot]

i use it in my bot a bit

I wish java would enforce indentation like python would

I prefer type declarations tho

runs

PYTHON SUCKS

well, the forced indention does

otherwise idc

where's the curly bois? where's the end??

why would you not indent your code though?

how do I know the method is done!

[young tendon]

python feels like sql to me since you type out words

[limber knot]

also I never said that java shold remove braces :P

that would reduce verbosity and I'm ALL for verbosity ;D

[golden gust]

horrror with python is how much indentation does matter

[young tendon]

if 2 is 2 and 'fish' is 'fish':
I think this ↑ is a valid line of python

[limber knot]

python reminds me too much of yaml

miss one space and it's 3 hours of headache for you

[young tendon]

lol

[limber knot]

we can all agree Rockstar is the best language though

[sleek tree]

The python IDE will have a fit and show you where the error is.

Rockstar? Wha?

[limber knot]

https://codewithrockstar.com/

some of you havent been blessed with rockstar

[finite wave]

I just heard the whole .spigot song

it really isn't that good

[spice finch]

Designing API is soo hard. Player.Spigot for instance, once it's added it can't be removed because of all legacy shit

[limber knot]

HolyC is the best language

[spice finch]

Why spigot does that?

[limber knot]

brainfuck is also good

C​DF​N: stuff gets removed from there

[spice finch]

Ik

But it'll stay functional, right?

So calling these methods will call Player methods

[finite wave]

You can turn on the IJ hints and then bam, magic "type declarations" https://i.imgur.com/2lDCHS2.png

[bold zephyr]

i hate indenting so much that i do a ton of checks to prevent nesting

[uncut moss]

ij hints for what

[spice finch]

It looks fine ineusia

[finite wave]

For kotlin type declaration

[bold zephyr]

thats the point cdfn

[uncut moss]

ineusa just ctrl alt L

[finite wave]

https://i.imgur.com/nkP4Ubh.png

[uncut moss]

smh

[bold zephyr]

its not 50 indents like slimefun lmao

[spice finch]

Never seen slimefun code

[limber knot]

well where is intellij web and android though? :P

[spice finch]

Personally using 2 spaces

[limber knot]

try coding kotlin there, Jan

[uncut moss]

slimefun code kek

[spice finch]

And Kotlin so some checks are looking better, whole code is looking better imo

[limber knot]

there's a funny SpigotMC thread with some slimefun code

wait is slimefun code abysmal

the bob story

[bold zephyr]

https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/story-time-the-story-of-bob.304159/

[finite wave]

I'm not gonna do android nty

[limber knot]

im just gonna write my android code in java lmao

[uncut moss]

i think the guy made it a bit better

probably still shit

[spice finch]

If you only saw one of polish games dedicated for children, there were so many swears and other bad things in code. Not visible for end user but still wondering how this went through code revieww

[twin lagoon]

paper 1.17 eta

?

[limber knot]

code... review...?

runs

WHAT IS GOING ON

[twin lagoon]

chew uwu

[limber knot]

why so many @override runs geez

[spice finch]

huj is basically dick lol

It's even funnier if you know polish

[limber knot]

my favorite shape, the origional https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/pKoWGCdo/image.png

[unreal quarry]

@unreal quarry I saw you were the one who submitted the last code update for Shop, any chance you updated it for 1.16.1?
@tender flower It works fine on 1.16.1

[tender flower]

yeah I figured out it was an outdated config and forgot to ping again, sorry

annoying that it was using numbered data values

[unreal quarry]

One of these days I'm gonna do a proper hard fork of that project. Probably won't be until it actually breaks again, though :3

I'm lazy like that lol

[limber knot]

here my ip guys don't hack me https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/QL3dY6jb/image.png

[vagrant niche]

Hakd

[spice finch]

My guys are hacking you rn

[limber knot]

don't give out your IP address! it's like a password!

[twin lagoon]

ur going down kiddo

[limber knot]

waitin https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/Ob8wjrtA/image.png

[finite wave]

hot

[spice finch]

eap

Can't u get student license chew, or you're not student anymore?

[limber knot]

im a student for 4 more years

yeah idk why it's everything apple pro

don't remember setting that

[spice finch]

So why EAP 👀

Tried to use it, but material ui was broken as hell

[limber knot]

i don't use custom themes :)

[spice finch]

Can't imagine living without these

That's how my IDE works, don't mind project neither code please

[limber knot]

what in the world

that background

ahh

[spice finch]

I love background images, someone from this discord inspired me

[zealous knot]

i don't know if i like this or absolutely hate it

[mental meadow]

Looks kinda pretty ngl

[finite wave]

Lol i've made 16 repos since jul 17

[golden gust]

somebody needs to hack a way for brains to support cartridges

[finite wave]

what

[golden gust]

could you imagine if something like learning a language was just popping a cartridge in

[cedar spade]

evening cat

[limber knot]

2 year build? https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/2sX3QcKJ/image.png

[golden gust]

Oh, god, so, before, when I went to go lie down, I was wondering why my machine kept waking up; It's been doing it for a little while, but, more in a "i wake up, I notice it's still alive", didn't notice it happened like, seconds after it was put to sleep

Turned out that I'd dropped a gamepad on the floor and it was pushing one of the sticks, which kept waking it back up

Best part is is that if you sleep the screen and move it, it won't do anything; But, like, if it goes to sleep being pressed, it wakes up

[mental meadow]

could you imagine if something like learning a language was just popping a cartridge in
Like in Baymax but for humans uwu

[limber knot]

what how do i set env vars

-Dyourvariable=cool

env vars not maven var

it was export

isn't that the same thing in the conext of the program? or do I misremeber that detail about java? xD

[finite wave]

Huh, you can change final vars with reflection?

Wait no nvm

[limber knot]

well there's "var=stuff" command which passes the env var to the script

[tacit tinsel]

Guys just fast question, is 1.16 more server demanding than 1.15?

[limber knot]

theoretically you can change a final field but if it's inlined by the jvm then that wont have much effect

[golden gust]

nope

[minor badge]

@twin lagoon uwu

[lament patio]

Aner, yes

[twin lagoon]

@minor badge uwu

[mighty storm]

@minor badge uwu

chew uwu
@twin lagoon uwu sorry for late response

[minor badge]

uwu

[limber knot]

bukkit plugin simulator, where YOU'RE the plugin and need to respond to every command and do stuff

[true canyon]

Level 99 is the BlockPhysicsEvent

[limber knot]

your score is based on the tps

the longer it takes for you to respond the lower the tps will be

[kindred storm]

you're a blocking operation

[uncut moss]

just make it async tho

ez 100% tps increase

[limber knot]

general coding question for everyone, how do you contribute to such a large project? Like everything is so well connected and stuff you need to go through every commit to actually gather enough lore to understand what you're doing. the code itself isn't hard, working with the code is

[uncut moss]

what project

[kindred storm]

^

[limber knot]

any large one, big plugins, paper, anything you don't know much about

[uncut moss]

in the case of paper

fuck that

i'm way too stupid for patches and stuff

[limber knot]

well from my understaning the paper script handles most of that

[kindred storm]

patches have always been an off-putter for me too, but i would contribute if i had more free time

[limber knot]

you just write the code and say "yep im done" and it does all that for you

[kindred storm]

(i know i spend a lot of time here, so...)

[uncut moss]

i managed to fuck it up every time i've tried

[kindred storm]

it's just not fun to go through the patch process; editing and committing a file as you would on a normal project is much faster and easier

[uncut moss]

and then making changes to patches and stuff

and then pulling changes from upstream

it's a mess

[limber knot]

patch the patches

[restive thicket]

Chew: are you asking as a first-timer or as a regular worker with the code?

[limber knot]

patch files finna be ++ -- -- ++ - - + // Paper bruh

first-timer just looking to contribute

[restive thicket]

Ideally the community can help you out and tell you how everything works.

[limber knot]

Like something as simple as "add this to an existing list of said item" sounds easy on paper, but if you're a first timer you have to be like "ok what is said item, how does it work, how do I add" etc etc

code itself easy, understanding the lore behind the code around it isn't, at least from my experience

[uncut moss]

lore

[golden gust]

It's familiarity with the project

Not to mention, being familiar with areas of the project

e.g. am sure as heck far out of the mental halth thing to be working on that chunk BS

[restive thicket]

being familiar with areas of the project
I can relate; I don't even try to touch our messaging code.

[golden gust]

But, like, certain areas of the codebase are much easier to work with

It's really all down to just getting to know the codebase and accepting that it takes time

[uncut moss]

async chunk loading, ez

[limber knot]

I mean I guess that's what PRs are for right? You do something, they suggest an easier way based off of other methods you didn't know existed, but those more familiar do know

start of pr = java code. end of pr = project code

[uncut moss]

either they help you or they're toxic

but i think former is more common

becaue minecraft kids aren't very present on github

[kindred storm]

or they edit your PR to increment the global project version because they do that for every single commit

[limber knot]

from my experience, the community is helpful but the project maintainers are toxic, this wasnt for a minecraft thing though

hey i got my letter from github nice

[restive thicket]

Letter?

[limber knot]

from the graduation thing they had

https://github.com/education/graduation

if you added yourself you got a letter with stuff

apparently just a congrats and some stickets

[uncut moss]

wut

[restive thicket]

Huh.

[uncut moss]

what's with programmers and calling stickers swag

[golden gust]

"swag" is more a thing in general

it's just basically free shit

[limber knot]

https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/9sQcKEA7/1595887824.JPG

[golden gust]

The word Swag is actually an acronym for "Stuff We All Get", originated from the .com years where companies used these give-away items as promotional mechanisms

[uncut moss]

now you can flex how big of a nerd you are

[limber knot]

my first laptop stickets ❤️

now to get a laptop

with my onlypurrs money

[zealous wedge]

how many subscribers do you have chew?

[limber knot]

0

[uncut moss]

i put a sticker on my coke glass

now it's pretty

[limber knot]

oh nvm, I have 1

[zealous wedge]

ya i subscribed :p

[limber knot]

they take a 20% cut wtf

lmao

[zealous wedge]

rude

[uncut moss]

my stickers aren't sticking

[limber knot]

and I need $20 to cash out ;-;

[twin lagoon]

@minor badge ;w;

[minor badge]

oh chew you are in for a wild ride

@twin lagoon ;w;

[limber knot]

wym proxi

[minor badge]

well either you become an organised stickerteer, or you become.. me

[limber knot]

lmaooo

[uncut moss]

that's just all of them

[zealous wedge]

proxi that is painful

[minor badge]

[zealous wedge]

how could you do that

[twin lagoon]

do ir do not fill my laptop with stickers

[golden gust]

Mines currently kinda looking empty, but, I have very few stickers on there

[wide chasm]

Stickers on laptops are blegh imo

[golden gust]

Might have to throw a via sticker on there

[twin lagoon]

i like the clean look of my aluminium xps 13

[limber knot]

viaversion sticket

[golden gust]

I even got a blinding shiny one

[uncut moss]

i like the look of my carbon xps 15

[minor badge]

how else am i supposed to show off my super omega brain huh

[fallen eagle]

i forgot i did write here

Is it possible for me to connect my modpack that only does run forge to my waterfall network ?

ik i did just type it but i feel like i didnt get any good answers

[minor badge]

the cpu is too weak for any proper development anyways so

[uncut moss]

what

[zealous wedge]

i mean you could get a print of an xray of your skull?

[uncut moss]

how do you connect a modpack

[twin lagoon]

yes @young tendonrabmo (oops i tagged the wrong tim)

[fallen eagle]

who did u tag ?

[minor badge]

tim be pensive rn

[uncut moss]

is your name Stone?

[limber knot]

alright sent out another post

[minor badge]

shane, peppis

[uncut moss]

oh

[golden gust]

Don't tell him I said this

[minor badge]

myles' handwriting is far better than mine doe

[limber knot]

who's shane

[uncut moss]

mine too

[minor badge]

cat is, chew

[limber knot]

oh ok

[fallen eagle]

so how would i connect a normal forge server that dosent run any cauldron/sponge stuff to my waterfall ?

is it just by adding a normal server to the network ?

[golden gust]

But, I was apprehensive about getting the pens thinking I'd just not use them, didn't wanna have stuff and they just end up in a cupboard somewhere, it's actually kinda nice, at least the metal one

You basically need sponge

otherwise UUID/IP forwarding won't work

[fallen eagle]

aw

ok then it wont work for the 1.14.4 modpack 😂

thx for the answer 👍

[uncut moss]

why don't stickers stick to glass

they suck

[minor badge]

1.13+ forge doesnt work with waterfall at all afaik

[fallen eagle]

😮

[golden gust]

glass is too smooth for most adhesives

[minor badge]

ill show you suck peppis

[limber knot]

oowo?

[golden gust]

pics or it didn't happen

[uncut moss]

it sticks but not on the spiky parts

[golden gust]

your biggest thing with stickers on glass is if it's a window, it's just gonna slop down it

[uncut moss]

tf does that mean

[golden gust]

it means that the adhesive generally doesn't like being in sunlight

[uncut moss]

oh it's not a window though

[zealous wedge]

stickers work fine on glass

[golden gust]

Maybe I just had crappy stickers last I tried

[uncut moss]

yeah but not the fucky parts

only 1

[limber knot]

just one

[finite wave]

Ah yes, that one https://i.imgur.com/oQdeGzX.png

[limber knot]

what

[uncut moss]

tuples

[minor badge]

private def ......g..(..p..: ( - is this typescript or smth

[uncut moss]

that looks like fucking braille

[twin lagoon]

chew you got names removed from your mc username history right

[limber knot]

Got a random DM from someone, go to their profile and... https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/RzI8x1J9/1595889382.JPG

@lusty drum what? No

[twin lagoon]

oh no wait

it was someone else

[limber knot]

my entire history is there

[finite wave]

It's scala proxi haha

Ah, yes this hint is very good https://i.imgur.com/o3hJCK1.png

[minor badge]

i like it when they have type hints everywhere

[waxen panther]

thats so cancer lol

[finite wave]

Yes i put it on to see something and haven't turned it off yet

[vernal moth]

Throwback Thursday

https://youtu.be/o0Wvn-9BXVc

[uncut moss]

what's kim dotcom

it's kinda catchy tho

[vernal moth]

Millennials be like

[twin lagoon]

M E G A

[limber knot]

windows users, can you just double click a jar and itll run

[uncut moss]

depends on if it's executable like that

[twin lagoon]

yes @mighty storm

aslong as java is set as the default associated application for .jar

[limber knot]

like it has a main class

[twin lagoon]

it just java -jar's it

[uncut moss]

won't open a terminal tho

[limber knot]

ah okay

it will

[uncut moss]

wut

[limber knot]

the vanilla console has been restored in 1.15 or something

[uncut moss]

never done for me

[vernal moth]

Had to explain to someone what mega.nz is

[uncut moss]

oh

megaupload is mega.nz?

[vernal moth]

So I digged out that gem

[uncut moss]

i thought they were different things

[limber knot]

no, megaupload is dead

[vernal moth]

Megaupload is the OG

[limber knot]

he made a new one ;D

[vernal moth]

But got sued into absolute Oblivion

[golden gust]

an actual terminal window won't open, the servers GUI will

you can 'fix' that by using java vs javaw iirc

[limber knot]

well no, it's not paper, it's my own jar

[vernal moth]

They raided his mansion with a full attack team, landed with helicopters and shit

[limber knot]

isn't the legal stuff still ongoing or something?

[vernal moth]

Cause he uploaded movies

Ye it's never ending

He still has some of his assets frozen iirc

Content mafia be like

[golden gust]

https://twitter.com/i/events/1287725678901616640

Cat becomes first animal to test positive for COVID-19 in the UK

The UK's chief veterinary officer has confirmed that the virus responsible for COVID-19 has been detected in a cat in Surrey, England, and the pet has made a full recovery. There is no evidence humans can contract the virus from their pets.

Twitter

well

[vestal jasper]

Rip cat

[static badge]

thank god fuck that electroniccat guy

[limber knot]

oh wow, he has a video from the raid on his website xD

[vernal moth]

Yeah he has

The story about the vid is also fun

Umg took it down twice

[uncut moss]

his accent is nice

[vernal moth]

Cause they don't like it

He's German ^^

[uncut moss]

yeah i know

but german accent is usually shit

but his one is nice

[vernal moth]

https://youtu.be/mmObwguVmEI

[lament patio]

Oh, boy
I remember when Mr President by him came out

[vernal moth]

Heh

Just the cost of the raid too

[limber knot]

I'm just amazed of him trying to make a show and profits out of everything he does xD

[vernal moth]

https://youtu.be/MokNvbiRqCM

Man, back then we had simpler problems

Remember ACTA?

[twin lagoon]

ah yes we've went from copyright legal stuff to git master branches being a problem

https://gfycat.com/safedisfiguredcanary

[limber knot]

we went from copyright legal stuff to the US becoming a facsist dictatorship

thats just how it is sometimes

I mean the US was old enough ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[slim nymph]

and the rights ok with it just because its their guy whos the dictator ._.

[zealous wedge]

partisanship in the US is great

[vagrant niche]

Death to cats!

They'll infect us all!

[zealous wedge]

death to u

[static badge]

in his time of need, pussyslayer69 was not found

[zealous wedge]

but what if... the pussyslayer69 was inside you all along

[slim nymph]

https://i.imgur.com/Wo6NnRB.png hmm, which should i take

[limber knot]

how about both?

[golden gust]

https://tenor.com/Wkic.gif

[vagrant niche]

¿por que no los dos?

[slim nymph]

https://i.imgur.com/dtRa3zx.png

ugh, do i have like 2 repos loaded providing it with diff ids or something

linux-headers-4.15.0-112:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 4.15.0-112.113~16.04.1
  Version table:
     4.15.0-112.113~16.04.1 500
        500 http://la-mirrors.evowise.com/ubuntu xenial-updates/main amd64 Packages
        500 http://la-mirrors.evowise.com/ubuntu xenial-updates/main i386 Packages
        500 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security/main amd64 Packages
        500 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security/main i386 Packages

[minor badge]

update repos again ig?

[limber knot]

facebook api be like, provides user token, gets this https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/TZf2o0Ra/image.png

provides app token, gets this https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/FQhhO0WQ/image.png

what the hell do you want

[worn ember]

yes

[mighty storm]

Aikar do you have aptitude?

[worn ember]

mfw double tapping esc in the console gives you a list of all commands

[minor badge]

i reckon first one is just a predefined message which is just created from some constant they reuse

[limber knot]

oh i love all those secret terminal stuff

like !! runs the previous command

or, replaces it with the previous command

[minor badge]

you might like !* and !$ too

[limber knot]

what do those do

[unkempt drift]

let prox take over your machine

[limber knot]

oh dang sign me up

[unique snow]

!* is list of params from last command

[minor badge]

!* is all previous args, !$ is last

[limber knot]

also you can prefix a command with a space and it wont show up in the scroll back or history ;)

[minor badge]

!^ for first, !!:# for #th arg

[worn ember]

[unique snow]

!* is so useful to be honest

[limber knot]

ok guaranteed to work

bad news

I probably can only get my own pages question mark?

oh god dammit https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/WyWsgUMJ/image.png

[limber knot]

why are you even doign anything with fb, isn't it dead? xD

anyone know why windows does that weird thing where it doesnt run a script until you focus on the console window

and it's for a plugin that relays stream chat ingame, twitch is good, youtube is good, stuck on facebook

it just tries to be helpful ;_;

im just trying to reverse engineer how streamlabs does it atp lmao

so the flow from what I understand is

Oauth with user's page, Get the page data, get the livestream data, then the livestream comments

[uncut moss]

fuck facebook

don't support facebook, who tf even uses it

[limber knot]

trump voters 👀

is there a way to see every variable

in the js console

[uncut moss]

has this page changed at all in 10 years?

[unique snow]

Oh btw chew, one of the best usages of bang bang, is to sudo the previous command. 🙂

[limber knot]

yeah, the font changed

yep

sudo !! all the time

also it looks like this for me: https://spigot.club/i/fMOvmxKZ.png

[uncut moss]

looks even worse for you lol

[void void]

How was the command

.tryandsee

a

[uncut moss]

.try

[limber knot]

https://tryitands.ee/

[uncut moss]

just what we needed

[void void]

I could have a 2 hour nonstop watching that vid

[unkempt drift]

ah yes, premium skripts...

[true canyon]

sudo !! all the time? Sounds like you need thefuck - https://github.com/nvbn/thefuck

[uncut moss]

how does that even get accepted

[serene bolt]

is that on spigot?

[uncut moss]

it is

https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/skript-cellblock-first-premium-skript-resource.3564/

[serene bolt]

oh it's ultra old, that's why

[limber knot]

grand fathering is a thing lol

[slim nymph]

wonder if thefuck mbaxter corrects to feed-tacos mbaxter

[uncut moss]

well back then skript was even worse

[limber knot]

imagine if spigot would start enforcing stuff with old resources 👀

[uncut moss]

so still weird

if you attack skript lol

[uncut moss]

downloads != buyers

one buyer can download it 57 times and it'd count

[serene bolt]

so in reality probably far less buyers

[unkempt drift]

reported for what exactly?

lol

[uncut moss]

attacking skript

skript is fragile

[granite salmon]

"this plugin is so nice"

[zealous wedge]

i mean you can report anyone for any reason

doesn't mean reports will do anything

(besides annoy the mods)

[unkempt drift]

report someone for frivoulous reporting 🙂

[unique snow]

I wonder if I can get reported by posting why there. 🤔

[uncut moss]

hmm

[unkempt drift]

liable... who is gonna sue you over this?

[limber knot]

for whatever reason, chrome is barely showing any web requests and safari shows like all of them

[granite salmon]

one buyer can download it 57 times and it'd count
@uncut moss is this an old thing, because it doesn't seem to be the case anymore

[unique snow]

Did you filter the requests in dev console?

[unkempt drift]

chrome just caches the entire internet locally 😛

[uncut moss]

i'm 80% that is the case

[limber knot]

don't think so

[unique snow]

You're in the network tab I'm guessing?

[uncut moss]

if that isn't the case maximvdw is fucking rich from spigot plugins

[serene bolt]

there are some session / cookie stuff involved in the download counter on spigot resources, it won't keep increasing if you just keep spamming the download button. but it is easy to bypass / get it to start counting

[uncut moss]

no but people downloading new versions will count

[serene bolt]

yeah

[limber knot]

one user only gets counted once for the total download

[uncut moss]

so, buyers installing every new version

[zealous wedge]

so just release lots of versions 😎

[limber knot]

of course not-logged in users will counted multiple times for free resources ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[serene bolt]

yeah

that's how people bot their downloads lol

[unique snow]

As long as they clear their session/cookie data.

Or don't have any 🙂

[serene bolt]

incognito = basically bypass'd

[limber knot]

why doesntit just count unique downloads

[uncut moss]

12k people bought mcmmo for $15?

[unique snow]

Ye

[limber knot]

1 download per IP

because that's dumb, chew

one ip doesn't mean one user

[unique snow]

Dynamic IP's.

[limber knot]

one IP can have multiple users and one user multiple IPs

[serene bolt]

yup

especially with the site supporting ipv6 :P

[limber knot]

i think having a downloader counter at all is dumb personally :p

unique user detection is one of the most complex (and privacy invading) things you can do on websites

[unique snow]

Yes privacy exists.

[limber knot]

because it involves user fingerprinting which is one of the core techs of google

where's spigot's privacy policy?

in the footer of every page

[waxen panther]

spigt

[limber knot]

Whenever you use our Platform, we may collect non-identifying information from you, such as your IP address, interactions with the Platform, query information, location information, referring URL, browser, application interaction, mobile provider information, operating system, data usage, data transferred, and Internet Service Provider.

[uncut moss]

[granite salmon]

that is correct

[unique snow]

Yeah, it'll show on individual files, not total downloads though

[uncut moss]

lol then there's people who have made $150k+ on premium resources

gg

[limber knot]

yeah, total downloads isn't really total downloads, lol

[granite salmon]

there are some that are staff downloads

but only like one or two

[uncut moss]

that's why every new premium resource has 3 downloads

[serene bolt]

lol yeah

[granite salmon]

i bet a lot of people add their friends to the resource

[serene bolt]

maybe if their nice, but i bet a lot of people don't because they want money from their friends too :P

[limber knot]

imagine having friends

[serene bolt]

:(

[granite salmon]

hello darkness my old friend

[zealous wedge]

why have friends when you could have customers \s

[worn ember]

why have customers when you can have people giving you money

[void void]

meanwhile look at this dude

?

searching for it == supporting it wow

[finite wave]

ah yes

[waxen panther]

@void void go 2 bed

[void void]

no

[zealous wedge]

don't you know sleep is illegal here

[finite wave]

What is sleep

[limber knot]

Epic

[finite wave]

Chew go away

[limber knot]

ok

[heady beacon]

TIL I'm trash, Lmao

[finite wave]

nice

[limber knot]

Yeah never /reload lmao

[heady beacon]

funniest thing is I do minecraft:reload all the time because I'm working with datapacks

[limber knot]

Oh yeah

[heady beacon]

guess I might as well just alias /reload to minecraft:reload and kill two birds with one stone

[limber knot]

I wish paper had a /reload datapacks

[heady beacon]

this is just a small server for me and my friends, anyways

and I don't make a ton of changes to plugins, so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[waxen panther]

the giga brain

[heady beacon]

old-ass name

pay no attention

[waxen panther]

[void void]

g i g a b r a i n

[heady beacon]

my brain is as small as everyone else's, sadly

[void void]

speak for yourself

[waxen panther]

are you saying my brain is small ????????

[heady beacon]

no smaller than mine

[waxen panther]

😠

[void void]

brocco ur brain is defo smol

[static badge]

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