#general | PaperMC | Page 808

twin lagoon Jul 21, 2020, 2:20 PM

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postgresql************************

vernal moth Jul 21, 2020, 2:20 PM

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This isn't 2010

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 2:20 PM

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what even is Liberal Arts

cedar spade Jul 21, 2020, 2:20 PM

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**Oracle

twin lagoon Jul 21, 2020, 2:20 PM

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or mariadb for the majority of mc*

vernal moth Jul 21, 2020, 2:20 PM

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Oracle is 2005 😂

void void Jul 21, 2020, 2:21 PM

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**printer

cedar spade Jul 21, 2020, 2:21 PM

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***Microsoft SQL Server

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 2:21 PM

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Ohhh no

lavish nova Jul 21, 2020, 2:21 PM

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ah yes we run an oracle database

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 2:21 PM

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we use Micorsoft Sql Server at work

vernal moth Jul 21, 2020, 2:21 PM

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I actually learned Oracle SQL in uni

lavish nova Jul 21, 2020, 2:21 PM

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I too am bankrupt fellow oracle users

twin lagoon Jul 21, 2020, 2:21 PM

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do people pronounce mysql as my - s - q - l

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or my sequel

void void Jul 21, 2020, 2:21 PM

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1st

cedar spade Jul 21, 2020, 2:21 PM

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former

twin lagoon Jul 21, 2020, 2:21 PM

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ok good

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it's like nginx

cedar spade Jul 21, 2020, 2:21 PM

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latter implies I will be replaced

vernal moth Jul 21, 2020, 2:21 PM

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First, prolly a German thing

twin lagoon Jul 21, 2020, 2:21 PM

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who the fuck calls nginx engine - x

vernal moth Jul 21, 2020, 2:21 PM

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I do, lol

void void Jul 21, 2020, 2:21 PM

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wat

vernal moth Jul 21, 2020, 2:21 PM

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That's the only proper way

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Engine x

void void Jul 21, 2020, 2:21 PM

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no

twin lagoon Jul 21, 2020, 2:22 PM

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n - jinx

left swift Jul 21, 2020, 2:22 PM

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M y seqewel

cedar spade Jul 21, 2020, 2:22 PM

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en jinks

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 2:22 PM

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i say my sequel, if you can pronounce it, you do

vernal moth Jul 21, 2020, 2:22 PM

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How do ppl call sqlite?

twin lagoon Jul 21, 2020, 2:22 PM

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s-q lite

void void Jul 21, 2020, 2:22 PM

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s q l ight

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 2:22 PM

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sequel-ite

cedar spade Jul 21, 2020, 2:22 PM

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squeal I T E

vernal moth Jul 21, 2020, 2:22 PM

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Yas

left swift Jul 21, 2020, 2:22 PM

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Squeakal

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 2:22 PM

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Alvin and the chipmunks: the sqlite

left swift Jul 21, 2020, 2:22 PM

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Lol

lavish nova Jul 21, 2020, 2:22 PM

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yes

void void Jul 21, 2020, 2:22 PM

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hahha

left swift Jul 21, 2020, 2:23 PM

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How is my name still like this I thought I would've been yelled at days ago

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Post wiz depression

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 2:23 PM

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because it has an english n

vernal moth Jul 21, 2020, 2:23 PM

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I hate it when ppl pronounce java as jaaaava, not with a jay

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Dum German

left swift Jul 21, 2020, 2:23 PM

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Yava

vernal moth Jul 21, 2020, 2:23 PM

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Oh the worst is Huawei

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 2:23 PM

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Jah-va

twin lagoon Jul 21, 2020, 2:23 PM

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jah-va is best

void void Jul 21, 2020, 2:23 PM

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^

twin lagoon Jul 21, 2020, 2:23 PM

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huawei is a bit more complicated

vernal moth Jul 21, 2020, 2:24 PM

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Nobody in Germany is able to pronounce Huawei

twin lagoon Jul 21, 2020, 2:24 PM

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same

void void Jul 21, 2020, 2:24 PM

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ja vuh

cedar spade Jul 21, 2020, 2:24 PM

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Hwahhhhhwayyyy

twin lagoon Jul 21, 2020, 2:24 PM

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that

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 2:24 PM

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i pronounce Huawei wah-way with a very little hu but not noticible, like a grace note

void void Jul 21, 2020, 2:24 PM

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hu way eeeeee

twin lagoon Jul 21, 2020, 2:24 PM

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no

fiery tapir Jul 21, 2020, 2:24 PM

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hwah-way

vernal moth Jul 21, 2020, 2:24 PM

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Germans say huh ah Wei

twin lagoon Jul 21, 2020, 2:24 PM

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yep here too

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it's dumb

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then we have Xiaomi

vernal moth Jul 21, 2020, 2:24 PM

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Schau mi

twin lagoon Jul 21, 2020, 2:24 PM

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yes

void void Jul 21, 2020, 2:24 PM

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scx iao mi

twin lagoon Jul 21, 2020, 2:25 PM

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no

fiery tapir Jul 21, 2020, 2:25 PM

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zay-oh-mee

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 2:25 PM

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zoo-we-mama

twin lagoon Jul 21, 2020, 2:25 PM

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zoo we mama

cedar spade Jul 21, 2020, 2:25 PM

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Pretty sure English doesn't actually have that consonant sound lol

void void Jul 21, 2020, 2:25 PM

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oh yeah wrong language

vernal moth Jul 21, 2020, 2:25 PM

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Nike or nikeeee?

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 2:25 PM

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ny key

cedar spade Jul 21, 2020, 2:25 PM

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No

void void Jul 21, 2020, 2:25 PM

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nigh k

twin lagoon Jul 21, 2020, 2:25 PM

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nikeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

left swift Jul 21, 2020, 2:26 PM

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Depends on what ur referring to pepeLaugh

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 2:26 PM

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i pronounce it decent at making shoes

vernal moth Jul 21, 2020, 2:26 PM

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Oh, let's try some German brands

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Porsche

left swift Jul 21, 2020, 2:26 PM

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Porsha

quasi valley Jul 21, 2020, 2:26 PM

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pork

void void Jul 21, 2020, 2:26 PM

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poor shhhh

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 2:26 PM

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por-shh

cedar spade Jul 21, 2020, 2:26 PM

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Poursk

fiery tapir Jul 21, 2020, 2:26 PM

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anyone who pronounces nike as soft n ike is a sociopath

vernal moth Jul 21, 2020, 2:26 PM

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Por schee

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Adidas?

cedar spade Jul 21, 2020, 2:26 PM

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A D I D A S

void void Jul 21, 2020, 2:26 PM

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ah de das

left swift Jul 21, 2020, 2:27 PM

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Adadadadadadadadias

fiery tapir Jul 21, 2020, 2:27 PM

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ah-dee-das

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 2:27 PM

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do yall ever prank people and set your name to Name (Host) in zoom meetings

twin lagoon Jul 21, 2020, 2:27 PM

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no because who the fuck uses zoom

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lmao

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 2:27 PM

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adidas more like adios

vernal moth Jul 21, 2020, 2:27 PM

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I never had a zoom meeting in my life

cedar spade Jul 21, 2020, 2:27 PM

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Light

void void Jul 21, 2020, 2:27 PM

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same and i hope i never will

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 2:27 PM

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mm light

left swift Jul 21, 2020, 2:27 PM

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What about the dark

vernal moth Jul 21, 2020, 2:27 PM

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Fuck you md

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 2:27 PM

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your edits have no power here

cedar spade Jul 21, 2020, 2:27 PM

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:(

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alright runway is cancelled >:(

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 2:27 PM

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forever set in stone https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/z4VDf9n2/image.png

left swift Jul 21, 2020, 2:28 PM

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Project runway

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 2:28 PM

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s/y light/y life

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Correction, <DiscordBot> <06MiniDigger> I never had a zoom meeting in my life

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My edits have power everywhere!

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thanks xd

fiery tapir Jul 21, 2020, 2:28 PM

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set it to Reconnecting and turn off your audio

cedar spade Jul 21, 2020, 2:28 PM

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you'll never find out what runway is because I never told people what it was in the first place :p

fiery tapir Jul 21, 2020, 2:28 PM

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just say you have bad internet and fuck off lmao

left swift Jul 21, 2020, 2:28 PM

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It's the mc developers version of the fashion show but instead of clothes its code

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 2:28 PM

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what the heck

steel pulsar Jul 21, 2020, 2:28 PM

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if your posting from anything other than irssi with your stupid irc-bridge i'm simplyognna have to block you

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 2:28 PM

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⇐ phoenix616 quit (~phoenix616@the.spigot.club) Quit: Ping timeout: 1597463007 seconds

steel pulsar Jul 21, 2020, 2:28 PM

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owned

void void Jul 21, 2020, 2:28 PM

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oh damn

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 2:29 PM

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50 years

cedar spade Jul 21, 2020, 2:29 PM

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the spigot club has timed out

steel pulsar Jul 21, 2020, 2:29 PM

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why don't they set a proper ping timeout limit in the ircd settings

void void Jul 21, 2020, 2:29 PM

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spigot club end 🦀

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 2:29 PM

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it's 121 seconds Red

golden gust Jul 21, 2020, 2:29 PM

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120*

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Just, with how it does it, you get kicked on 121

cedar spade Jul 21, 2020, 2:29 PM

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110

steel pulsar Jul 21, 2020, 2:30 PM

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whys it say 1597463007 then

cedar spade Jul 21, 2020, 2:30 PM

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wait this isn't the price is right

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 2:30 PM

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ah because you didn't ping within 120

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because you can set a custom quit message :p

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./quit [message]

steel pulsar Jul 21, 2020, 2:30 PM

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ah.... i've been foiled

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 2:30 PM

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or /leave if you just want to leave the channel

fiery tapir Jul 21, 2020, 2:30 PM

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chew i think that's just the fucking timestamp

steel pulsar Jul 21, 2020, 2:30 PM

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i know i've been using irc since 2005

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 2:31 PM

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dang

vernal moth Jul 21, 2020, 2:31 PM

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Boomer

fiery tapir Jul 21, 2020, 2:31 PM

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their ping is so bad that they managed to connect on january 1st, 1970

steel pulsar Jul 21, 2020, 2:31 PM

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its just weird without the formatting

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 2:31 PM

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buwumer

cedar spade Jul 21, 2020, 2:31 PM

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smh should've used Discord in 2005

steel pulsar Jul 21, 2020, 2:31 PM

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i did it was called retroshare

vernal moth Jul 21, 2020, 2:31 PM

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10 years of discord experience on my CV

steel pulsar Jul 21, 2020, 2:31 PM

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and it even had p2p file sharing

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 2:31 PM

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ay hes back

vernal moth Jul 21, 2020, 2:31 PM

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DCC

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😂

steel pulsar Jul 21, 2020, 2:32 PM

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dcc is dog shit

waxen panther Jul 21, 2020, 2:32 PM

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wtb developer, must have 20 years of rust programming experience

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 2:32 PM

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i should be paying attention to this, i paid $120 for this bs

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!kick chew I gotta test something

vernal moth Jul 21, 2020, 2:32 PM

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Mfw review embargo for OnePlus nord drops and my timeline goes crazy

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 2:32 PM

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nice try im still here

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cool

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did you set commands to work

waxen panther Jul 21, 2020, 2:32 PM

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just refreshed my yt pepelaugh

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limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 2:32 PM

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!kickban chew hai

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try !op chew

waxen panther Jul 21, 2020, 2:33 PM

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!op broccoli

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 2:33 PM

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!op chew

vernal moth Jul 21, 2020, 2:33 PM

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Try Kline

uncut moss Jul 21, 2020, 2:33 PM

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the designs that carl pei showed in mkbhd's video were better

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 2:33 PM

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darn

uncut moss Jul 21, 2020, 2:33 PM

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but probably too premium lol

cedar spade Jul 21, 2020, 2:33 PM

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$400
budget

void void Jul 21, 2020, 2:33 PM

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!gibgod me

cedar spade Jul 21, 2020, 2:33 PM

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.kill minidigger

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 2:33 PM

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stuffs a bomb up minidigger's ass and waits for it to go off.

latent valve Jul 21, 2020, 2:33 PM

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!iseedeadpeople

vernal moth Jul 21, 2020, 2:33 PM

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Any phone that isn't a pixel is not worth your money anyways

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 2:34 PM

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pixels kinda trash tho

uncut moss Jul 21, 2020, 2:34 PM

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lies

waxen panther Jul 21, 2020, 2:34 PM

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pixels are the only good androids

vernal moth Jul 21, 2020, 2:34 PM

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Best camera

golden gust Jul 21, 2020, 2:34 PM

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and here I am debating on jumping back to apple next round

vernal moth Jul 21, 2020, 2:34 PM

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Period

cedar spade Jul 21, 2020, 2:34 PM

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don't do it cat

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 2:34 PM

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ah electroniccat you have to do /msg chanserv flags #paper fantasy on

cedar spade Jul 21, 2020, 2:34 PM

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"apples are bad"

fiery tapir Jul 21, 2020, 2:34 PM

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my $200 LG Stylo 4 gets the glowing recommendation of: it's a phone

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 2:34 PM

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I don't ;P

waxen panther Jul 21, 2020, 2:34 PM

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fantasy WeirdChamp

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 2:34 PM

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fantasy commands are already on

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whaat

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can you not use it then

waxen panther Jul 21, 2020, 2:35 PM

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.kill Spigot

wide chasm Jul 21, 2020, 2:35 PM

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I bought a Motorola for 80 euro and for 80 euro it's really good

vernal moth Jul 21, 2020, 2:35 PM

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Show me another phone camera that can take a pic like this

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 2:35 PM

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hax

vernal moth Jul 21, 2020, 2:35 PM

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https://photos.app.goo.gl/2KNxDk2JQsMyKdby5

Google Photos

New photo by Martin “MiniDigger” Benndorf

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 2:35 PM

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grabs a AK47 and riddles Spigot's body with bullets.

golden gust Jul 21, 2020, 2:35 PM

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implying I take pictures with my phone

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 2:35 PM

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oh wait

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you also need to do

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oh nvm zoidberg is here

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but hes sleepin on the job

golden gust Jul 21, 2020, 2:35 PM

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My horror is that my phone which I purchased a few years ago is already on the verge of no longer recieving updates

cedar spade Jul 21, 2020, 2:36 PM

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here, let me dig out my old S3 mini and spray dust into its camera

wide chasm Jul 21, 2020, 2:36 PM

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I don't think I ever had an update...

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 2:36 PM

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best phone is s7, when you're done with it it blows itself up 😹

golden gust Jul 21, 2020, 2:36 PM

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And, like, bar a scratch on the screen, the 5t is still kicking ass

wide chasm Jul 21, 2020, 2:36 PM

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But it's Android 8, it's fine

cedar spade Jul 21, 2020, 2:36 PM

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chew: note 7?

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 2:36 PM

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idk

vernal moth Jul 21, 2020, 2:36 PM

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My dad is rocking my old one plus one

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 2:36 PM

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one of them

vernal moth Jul 21, 2020, 2:36 PM

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And still has latest Android

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 2:37 PM

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ok android users, what version are yall on

void void Jul 21, 2020, 2:37 PM

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complaining about no updates

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limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 2:37 PM

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and whats the latest

vernal moth Jul 21, 2020, 2:37 PM

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Surely you can get that on the 5t too

wide chasm Jul 21, 2020, 2:37 PM

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Phone on 8, tablet on 4

golden gust Jul 21, 2020, 2:37 PM

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Well, yes

waxen panther Jul 21, 2020, 2:37 PM

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Samsung S20, now with 20 days of updates instead of 10 WeirdChamp

golden gust Jul 21, 2020, 2:37 PM

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But the 4 was killed off this time around

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so, I get a feeling, unless pebble or whatever it was saves our ass, am doomed next update

vernal moth Jul 21, 2020, 2:37 PM

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Pebble?

golden gust Jul 21, 2020, 2:38 PM

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oh, treble

vernal moth Jul 21, 2020, 2:38 PM

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Isn't pebble ded?

fiery tapir Jul 21, 2020, 2:38 PM

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my phone's android 9 but it's some custom version from LG, wonder if it'd be worth it to reflash

vernal moth Jul 21, 2020, 2:38 PM

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Project treble is the project to abstract hardware away from Android

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There are already phones with treble

golden gust Jul 21, 2020, 2:38 PM

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Yes, to make it easier to upgrade, 5t already got that iirc

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Well, we don't have the dual boot portion of the spec, however

cedar spade Jul 21, 2020, 2:40 PM

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iirc my previous phone had a community-supported firmware layer for treble, but there was only one stable Android fork to run on it and it wasn't particularly well-updated so it wasn't that useful

golden gust Jul 21, 2020, 2:40 PM

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Yea, that's part of why iPhones looking a bit more compelling

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When I look at what I do with my phone, it's all possible to do these days without jailbreaking

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The platform switch will be bleh, but, then everything will tie together better with my setup, and I'll have a device that's supported bar the minimum 3 years google requires

waxen panther Jul 21, 2020, 2:41 PM

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preowned SE gen 2's will be good value

golden gust Jul 21, 2020, 2:41 PM

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(I think it was 3 years they required, or maybe 2)

fiery tapir Jul 21, 2020, 2:41 PM

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i wonder if i could flash my kindle work android

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already got the app store on it so I don't know why i'd want to tbh

wide chasm Jul 21, 2020, 2:42 PM

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My sister has an iPhone and constantly rubs into internet connectivity issues, so I don't think I'll ever switch (not to mention the prices of new iPhones).

uncut moss Jul 21, 2020, 2:42 PM

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new SE 2 is already good value

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i've never had issues with internet connectivity on iphone thonk

waxen panther Jul 21, 2020, 2:42 PM

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Never had an issue with internet personally, there was a bug on a previous version of iOS 13 but that was fixed within a couple weeks

golden gust Jul 21, 2020, 2:42 PM

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Well, yea, but you look at the pricing of android phones these days...

uncut moss Jul 21, 2020, 2:43 PM

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i'm on ios 14 beta and haven't any issues at all even with that

waxen panther Jul 21, 2020, 2:43 PM

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an SE 2 will last a lot longer than androids at the same price

cedar spade Jul 21, 2020, 2:43 PM

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Only flagships are outrageous tbh

waxen panther Jul 21, 2020, 2:43 PM

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Im on the 14 beta now too yea

golden gust Jul 21, 2020, 2:43 PM

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Well, yea, but only flagships are actually supported

uncut moss Jul 21, 2020, 2:43 PM

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widgets are very nice

wide chasm Jul 21, 2020, 2:43 PM

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Brands such as Samsung are expensive, but smaller brands are pretty okay

twin lagoon Jul 21, 2020, 2:43 PM

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mid-range samsungs are cheap

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and good

golden gust Jul 21, 2020, 2:44 PM

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Their non-flagship models are generally tossed off the cliff the second they reach the google mandatory period

twin lagoon Jul 21, 2020, 2:44 PM

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can also recommend Xiaomi phones

cedar spade Jul 21, 2020, 2:44 PM

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I've got a Samsung A50 and it's still getting support and hasn't really degraded since I got it

twin lagoon Jul 21, 2020, 2:44 PM

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good specs, cheap

fiery tapir Jul 21, 2020, 2:44 PM

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i can't tell if the connection issues i have are router-based or connection-based

waxen panther Jul 21, 2020, 2:44 PM

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the a50 updates are just security updates though right?

cedar spade Jul 21, 2020, 2:44 PM

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Old mid/low-end Samsung phones didn't last long, modern ones are fine

neat smelt Jul 21, 2020, 2:44 PM

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also used iphones in good condition have a good resell value, compared to android phones

waxen panther Jul 21, 2020, 2:44 PM

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Oh no that is the one that got android 10

golden gust Jul 21, 2020, 2:44 PM

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I mean, everything suggests that the a50 is still in the period where google says they have to support it

cedar spade Jul 21, 2020, 2:44 PM

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Nah, got Android 10 months ago

fiery tapir Jul 21, 2020, 2:44 PM

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because most of the time i stay connected but just suddenly lose internet connection

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 2:44 PM

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woah you're a dev too peppis?

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md you got "Android 10" months ago or you got "Android" 10 months ago

fiery tapir Jul 21, 2020, 2:45 PM

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and i dunno how to diagnose anything with linksys' shitty firmware

cedar spade Jul 21, 2020, 2:45 PM

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Google doesn't mandate Android updates do they? Just security iirc

waxen panther Jul 21, 2020, 2:45 PM

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just security

golden gust Jul 21, 2020, 2:45 PM

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Yea, just security looking at it

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 2:45 PM

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theyre makingus play ANOTHER kahoot

cedar spade Jul 21, 2020, 2:45 PM

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chew: read it again and decide which one you think lol

fiery tapir Jul 21, 2020, 2:45 PM

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makes sense

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 2:46 PM

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i dont know hwat version android is on

golden gust Jul 21, 2020, 2:46 PM

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With project treble, it's kinda hard for them to not do android updates

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 2:46 PM

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i thought it was name based

golden gust Jul 21, 2020, 2:46 PM

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Google is defo pushing to make OEMs actually support their shit, but, they still only require 2 years

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and my experience with samsung is that even their flagships tend to get thrown off to the side once that period ends

fiery tapir Jul 21, 2020, 2:46 PM

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i had a dogshit samsung before i got this one around a year ago

waxen panther Jul 21, 2020, 2:46 PM

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Google forcing actual updates for 3 years minimum would be great, it's a bad look for android rn and the biggest reason they lose so much value

cedar spade Jul 21, 2020, 2:46 PM

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They certainly could, iirc Xiaomi doesn't update the base Android level across their range even though they push out yearly UI updates

uncut moss Jul 21, 2020, 2:47 PM

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chew wdym

waxen panther Jul 21, 2020, 2:47 PM

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Which is the reason the only Androids I've bought have been pixels

uncut moss Jul 21, 2020, 2:47 PM

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wat dev

fiery tapir Jul 21, 2020, 2:47 PM

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you can tell it's garbage because it has a name like galaxy core prime, just sounds like garbage

neat smelt Jul 21, 2020, 2:47 PM

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its the general meh quality why androids loose their value

waxen panther Jul 21, 2020, 2:47 PM

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Public beta is out for 14 now Chew, you don't have to have a dev account anymore

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I do though coolpepe

uncut moss Jul 21, 2020, 2:47 PM

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yeah i've had it since early july

golden gust Jul 21, 2020, 2:47 PM

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I mean, that's part of why androids just falling out of my favour, especially with their recent changes over the past few years which makes running custom roms a PITA

waxen panther Jul 21, 2020, 2:47 PM

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I installed Big Sus and 14 day 1

uncut moss Jul 21, 2020, 2:48 PM

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i installed public beta ios day 1

golden gust Jul 21, 2020, 2:48 PM

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I'm paying how much on a device which is slated to last 2 years, maybe 3, through nothing other than updates being thrown out the window

fiery tapir Jul 21, 2020, 2:48 PM

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is it easier to use custom shit on apple phones?

cedar spade Jul 21, 2020, 2:48 PM

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arguably treble makes it easier, but I've had no real motivation to ditch stock Samsung firmware since I bought it

uncut moss Jul 21, 2020, 2:48 PM

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apple still updates ios 12 for iphone 5 and 6

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phones that came out 2013-14

golden gust Jul 21, 2020, 2:48 PM

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Apple makes stuff a pita

waxen panther Jul 21, 2020, 2:49 PM

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No Noobulus, the argument is that custom roms on android let you extend it's life span through community maintained updates

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Apple already updates their shit for ages

fiery tapir Jul 21, 2020, 2:49 PM

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the original ipod is still supported by itunes, isn't it?

golden gust Jul 21, 2020, 2:49 PM

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Apple pretty much always work towards killing jailbreaks, just, they erm...

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Well, yes

waxen panther Jul 21, 2020, 2:49 PM

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Jailbreaking will never die :p

uncut moss Jul 21, 2020, 2:49 PM

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my oneplus 6t ran fine after like 16 months

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no problems with it

fiery tapir Jul 21, 2020, 2:49 PM

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and don't they still make new ipods??? that's what fucks me up lmao, they just make new ones for some reason

waxen panther Jul 21, 2020, 2:50 PM

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What do you mean? Why wouldn't they continue making iPods lol

cedar spade Jul 21, 2020, 2:50 PM

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The iPod Touch still sells lol

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They wouldn't make it if it didn't

waxen panther Jul 21, 2020, 2:50 PM

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there's still a market for them and they're not iterating on it, just selling the same ones

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 2:50 PM

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i have iphone ate

waxen panther Jul 21, 2020, 2:50 PM

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ate

void void Jul 21, 2020, 2:50 PM

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I was gonna get a 8

cedar spade Jul 21, 2020, 2:51 PM

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they've released a few hardware refreshes to the Touch but stopped updating the design to match the iPhone ages ago

waxen panther Jul 21, 2020, 2:51 PM

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They're great for a childs first device / home media control

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it was my first thing too, angry birbs was my life

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better times 😔

fiery tapir Jul 21, 2020, 2:52 PM

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my first desktop was a raspberry pi

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still dunno how the fuck i got youtube working in chromium back then

waxen panther Jul 21, 2020, 2:53 PM

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WeirdChamp

fiery tapir Jul 21, 2020, 2:53 PM

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then something broke and it always showed the play button lol

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oh god the worst part of that wasn't even the pi, it was the shit internet

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we had AT&T and it sucked SO BAD

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i couldn't stream/watch anything, i had to use fucking wget and wait an hour to watch a 10-minute video

void void Jul 21, 2020, 2:54 PM

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oh god

fiery tapir Jul 21, 2020, 2:55 PM

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it was awful dude

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 2:55 PM

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kennytv left :(

minor badge Jul 21, 2020, 2:57 PM

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knenwald pls

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 2:57 PM

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hello prowoxi

fiery tapir Jul 21, 2020, 2:57 PM

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child me managed to learn symlinks in order to get shitty python minecraft mods working while minecraft was installed on a flash drive because the microsd i was using was small

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 2:57 PM

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im pretty sure i have one of those minecraft gamebands things

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that came out a few years ago

fiery tapir Jul 21, 2020, 2:58 PM

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isn't the latest and greatest pi able to run actual games at like full overclock?

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like, it can run celeste i guess

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nobody seems to have tried terraria

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it was something xna-based

cedar spade Jul 21, 2020, 2:59 PM

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people having rpis as their first PC

fiery tapir Jul 21, 2020, 2:59 PM

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it was the only computer my parents thought i couldn't figure out how to play games on

minor badge Jul 21, 2020, 2:59 PM

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@twin lagoon 😳

twin lagoon Jul 21, 2020, 3:00 PM

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hi proxi

golden gust Jul 21, 2020, 3:00 PM

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I mean, the CPU in the PI is meh

minor badge Jul 21, 2020, 3:00 PM

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hi michael

twin lagoon Jul 21, 2020, 3:00 PM

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uwu

minor badge Jul 21, 2020, 3:00 PM

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uwu

cedar spade Jul 21, 2020, 3:00 PM

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My "first PC" was an eMachines one from around 2001

twin lagoon Jul 21, 2020, 3:00 PM

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can dell fucking hurry up i want my xps 13

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reeeeeeeee

golden gust Jul 21, 2020, 3:00 PM

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Like, it's great for what you're paying for, and it can run a fair chunk of stuff well if tuned for it

fiery tapir Jul 21, 2020, 3:00 PM

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because they're the kind of parents that get mad when their child plays games an unhealthy amount and decide to ban them from doing that instead of like, trying to figure out what the root problem is

unreal quarry Jul 21, 2020, 3:00 PM

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My first PC was a 33mhz chip. Didn't even have passive cooling :3

twin lagoon Jul 21, 2020, 3:00 PM

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billy u fukin boomer

static badge Jul 21, 2020, 3:01 PM

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33 mhz Pog

twin lagoon Jul 21, 2020, 3:01 PM

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silence_furry

static badge Jul 21, 2020, 3:01 PM

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pepefurry silence_furry

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 3:01 PM

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33MHz? like how we have 2.9 GHz today?

unreal quarry Jul 21, 2020, 3:01 PM

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Yeah, chew. 0.033ghz

twin lagoon Jul 21, 2020, 3:01 PM

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2.9 is pretty slow for modern standards

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 3:01 PM

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wow thats at least 4 years old

minor badge Jul 21, 2020, 3:01 PM

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my laptops at 1.6GHz iirc

twin lagoon Jul 21, 2020, 3:02 PM

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well

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for laptops / anything portable it's fast

golden gust Jul 21, 2020, 3:02 PM

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Not really

waxen panther Jul 21, 2020, 3:02 PM

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furryingen

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 3:02 PM

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mines 2.9 i think could be less

golden gust Jul 21, 2020, 3:02 PM

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I mean, if you care about battery life/cost more than performance, sure

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 3:02 PM

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we get it youre a furry brocalii geez

fiery tapir Jul 21, 2020, 3:02 PM

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the words 'computer time' and 'computer privileges' give me that special kind of dread you can only get from childhood trauma, as stupid as that sounds lmao

waxen panther Jul 21, 2020, 3:02 PM

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IM NOT

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 3:02 PM

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then why did ou announce yourself

minor badge Jul 21, 2020, 3:02 PM

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they claim it can boost to 3.6GHz but idk abt that with cooling which dies the second u hit 2.0GHz

twin lagoon Jul 21, 2020, 3:02 PM

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he wants to standout

waxen panther Jul 21, 2020, 3:02 PM

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Leaf is here

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frangry

twin lagoon Jul 21, 2020, 3:03 PM

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he's also happy to see me

waxen panther Jul 21, 2020, 3:03 PM

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uwu

twin lagoon Jul 21, 2020, 3:03 PM

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uwu

minor badge Jul 21, 2020, 3:03 PM

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uwu

fiery tapir Jul 21, 2020, 3:03 PM

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it can boost to 3.6 GHz while placed inside a fridge

golden gust Jul 21, 2020, 3:03 PM

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Depends on the chip as to how well boosting works too

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the more cores boosting, the less they can boost

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Older gens only allowed a single core to boost afaik

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 3:03 PM

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saying "uwu" DOES NOT MAKE YOU A FURRY. Being a FURRY makes you a FURRY.

waxen panther Jul 21, 2020, 3:04 PM

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ur right

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Furries are gross

golden gust Jul 21, 2020, 3:04 PM

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I literally don't know anybody who isn't a furry that uses "uwu"

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 3:04 PM

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me

waxen panther Jul 21, 2020, 3:04 PM

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<-

golden gust Jul 21, 2020, 3:04 PM

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(x)

unreal quarry Jul 21, 2020, 3:04 PM

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I still remember my first CPU I ever bought. 850mhz. Quite the upgrade from my previous 33/66. I remember looking at this big heat sync/fan and thinking "why the hell is this even needed.. can't be that hot" so I installed it without and put my finger on it to see. As soon as I turned it on I fried it, and melted my fingerprint off...

golden gust Jul 21, 2020, 3:04 PM

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doubt

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 3:04 PM

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i know quite a few

waxen panther Jul 21, 2020, 3:04 PM

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fight me

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 3:04 PM

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but its kinda the expectation in owo lol

golden gust Jul 21, 2020, 3:04 PM

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lol

brazen adder Jul 21, 2020, 3:04 PM

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.flags

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 3:05 PM

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golden gust Jul 21, 2020, 3:05 PM

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See, billy; Where I come from, we see a fan and we figure, "fuck that, am not touching that"

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 3:05 PM

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i just blow on my computer

golden gust Jul 21, 2020, 3:05 PM

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(and then we touch it anyways cos we're curios af as to the heat coming off it)

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imma go see if downstairs has stuff for dealing with stupid headaches

alpine pier Jul 21, 2020, 3:06 PM

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Hey.. is it possible to track down which plugins are sending sooo freaking much packets? when i do /viaversion pps i get people with 200+ packets

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 3:06 PM

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wouldnt be plugins

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butt... #paper-help

void void Jul 21, 2020, 3:06 PM

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i'd do a binary search

cedar spade Jul 21, 2020, 3:06 PM

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It's not as simple as "some plugins send more packets"

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200 per second doesn't seem unreasonable?

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 3:07 PM

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ive gotten into the thousands with hacked clients

cedar spade Jul 21, 2020, 3:07 PM

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That seems plausible for a normal server, maybe not ideal idk

alpine pier Jul 21, 2020, 3:07 PM

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viaversion say a normal player have around 90

unreal quarry Jul 21, 2020, 3:08 PM

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it depends on what they are doing

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200 is normal

alpine pier Jul 21, 2020, 3:08 PM

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its a hub

unreal quarry Jul 21, 2020, 3:08 PM

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just looking around and running spews about 100

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 3:08 PM

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sorry im back, had to get my cat

fiery tapir Jul 21, 2020, 3:08 PM

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i wonder if there's a way for me to do something with my server to make it playable for the poor bastard on capped out verizon mobile data

void void Jul 21, 2020, 3:08 PM

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yeah cheat clients can easily go into the 1000s, either with timer or a crasher

alpine pier Jul 21, 2020, 3:08 PM

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really? i thought normal is around 20-50 pps

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 3:09 PM

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why are talking about privilege points

unreal quarry Jul 21, 2020, 3:09 PM

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nah, theres lots of packets going back and forth

fiery tapir Jul 21, 2020, 3:09 PM

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or if that's just such a godawful connection that you can't actually make it playable

alpine pier Jul 21, 2020, 3:09 PM

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sometimes people get kicked with 2500-3000 pps

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but they are not cheating

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or crashing

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thats why i need to look into it

waxen panther Jul 21, 2020, 3:10 PM

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Numbers

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Science

unreal quarry Jul 21, 2020, 3:10 PM

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network latency can cause high amounts, too. since they will build up and get sent/received all at once

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etc

waxen panther Jul 21, 2020, 3:10 PM

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🧪

cedar spade Jul 21, 2020, 3:10 PM

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why is everyone talking about their players' pp

void void Jul 21, 2020, 3:10 PM

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kek

waxen panther Jul 21, 2020, 3:10 PM

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pp max

alpine pier Jul 21, 2020, 3:11 PM

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why is everyone talking about their players' pp
@cedar spade because they have high / big pps xd

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 3:11 PM

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whats wrong with a big pp

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well, too big can be bad i suppose

void void Jul 21, 2020, 3:11 PM

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this conversation is weird

alpine pier Jul 21, 2020, 3:11 PM

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back to topic pls :x

waxen panther Jul 21, 2020, 3:11 PM

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I'm more of a visual learner

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 3:11 PM

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this is general, there is no topic

void void Jul 21, 2020, 3:11 PM

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wat

waxen panther Jul 21, 2020, 3:11 PM

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you beat me

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😐

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 3:11 PM

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if u want help ya shouldve gone to #paper-help

alpine pier Jul 21, 2020, 3:11 PM

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uff

waxen panther Jul 21, 2020, 3:11 PM

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uff

void void Jul 21, 2020, 3:12 PM

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go to #paper-help , this is #we're bored

alpine pier Jul 21, 2020, 3:12 PM

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alright... sooo i should change viaversion to a max of 3000 pps b4 getting kicked?

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 3:12 PM

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but for me, i just ignore packets tbh

waxen panther Jul 21, 2020, 3:12 PM

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#paper-help WeirdChamp

alpine pier Jul 21, 2020, 3:12 PM

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i mean when i disable it they can easily do something like nuker or anything

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or crash the server

waxen panther Jul 21, 2020, 3:12 PM

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why r u scared of paperhelp

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they dont bite

brazen adder Jul 21, 2020, 3:12 PM

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.optimise

alpine pier Jul 21, 2020, 3:12 PM

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alright

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 3:12 PM

#

https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/guide-server-optimization⚡.283181/

SpigotMC - High Performance Minecraft

[GUIDE] Server Optimization⚡

In memory of frash23

Iɴᴛʀᴏ
Spigot/Paper offers settings that greatly improve performance. This guide breaks down suggested values that get the most...

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unless u use anything less than 1.15

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then theyll byte

waxen panther Jul 21, 2020, 3:13 PM

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queue the 1.8 music

alpine pier Jul 21, 2020, 3:13 PM

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i think i will leave xd

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 3:13 PM

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aw

alpine pier Jul 21, 2020, 3:13 PM

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1.8 xd

waxen panther Jul 21, 2020, 3:13 PM

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ah yes

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 3:13 PM

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for a hub??

alpine pier Jul 21, 2020, 3:13 PM

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yeah

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its just the hub

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 3:13 PM

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that of all should be 1.16

alpine pier Jul 21, 2020, 3:13 PM

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nahh

twin lagoon Jul 21, 2020, 3:13 PM

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yes

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 3:13 PM

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or latest

alpine pier Jul 21, 2020, 3:14 PM

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scoreboard 100% broken

twin lagoon Jul 21, 2020, 3:14 PM

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pogWeirdChamp

waxen panther Jul 21, 2020, 3:14 PM

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WeirdChamp

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 3:14 PM

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then update the scoreboard

twin lagoon Jul 21, 2020, 3:14 PM

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scuffed scoreboard then

waxen panther Jul 21, 2020, 3:14 PM

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scuffed server

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 3:14 PM

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@vernal moth

alpine pier Jul 21, 2020, 3:15 PM

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its easier to allow higher versions on a 1.8.8 than allowing 1.8.8 on a 1.16 server

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ViaRewind is breaking pretty much

twin lagoon Jul 21, 2020, 3:15 PM

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pogWeirdChamp

fiery tapir Jul 21, 2020, 3:15 PM

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spigot plugins should pretty much just work with paper

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haven't had one break yet

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 3:15 PM

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viarewind only supports 1.9+

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oh wait

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viarewind is 1.7 and 1.8

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so many vias

alpine pier Jul 21, 2020, 3:15 PM

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yeah

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 3:15 PM

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anyway, I don't have issues

alpine pier Jul 21, 2020, 3:15 PM

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3 of them

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 3:16 PM

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just use latest thinksmart

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if via is broken use latest dev build

alpine pier Jul 21, 2020, 3:16 PM

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scoreboard is still broken... for 1.8.8 is glitched af

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 3:16 PM

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what scoreboard plugin?

alpine pier Jul 21, 2020, 3:16 PM

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featherboard

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 3:17 PM

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what version? mine works perfectly fine

alpine pier Jul 21, 2020, 3:17 PM

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but its for all scoreboards

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 3:17 PM

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people shouldnt be using 1.8 to begin with tbh

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you cant just take the "Easy" route of not updating

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there will be bugs but it's easier to stay up to date and deal with a few minor bugs than be 5 years behind

unreal quarry Jul 21, 2020, 3:18 PM

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bit of randomness, but i watched The Shinning over the weekend.. and I couldn't help but notice the wife looks like a grown up Venellope from the Wreck it Ralph cartoon

neat smelt Jul 21, 2020, 3:19 PM

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meh, not really

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 3:19 PM

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yeah the scoreboard is perfectly fine for me on 1.18

#

1.8*

unreal quarry Jul 21, 2020, 3:20 PM

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you dont think so, ober?

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 3:22 PM

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i cant remember, the shining is the dude with the axe saying heres johnny right

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and the room is i did not hit her i did not. oh hi mark

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yeah i know my movies

neat smelt Jul 21, 2020, 3:23 PM

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i mean, yes but no

olive marlin Jul 21, 2020, 3:26 PM

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I sure love when error messages are short and descriptive.

📎 unknown.png

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Damn Unicode should be banned.

neat smelt Jul 21, 2020, 3:28 PM

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xd

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 3:28 PM

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unicode more like if it aint english letters it aint acceptable

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do .

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hmmm

finite wave Jul 21, 2020, 3:34 PM

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Does \.

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Work?

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 3:34 PM

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meh, why does ovh think it's a good idea to not have ipv6 pre-configured for sys servers? -.-

olive marlin Jul 21, 2020, 3:38 PM

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Oh, FFS. Library I use for parsing NBT data has UTF-8 decoding hardcoded, and haven't accepted any PRs / updated in over half a year. 😞

finite wave Jul 21, 2020, 3:38 PM

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Utf-8 is fine?

olive marlin Jul 21, 2020, 3:39 PM

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Nope.

finite wave Jul 21, 2020, 3:39 PM

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Just fork it and edit if you need to change stuff i guess🤷🏼‍♂️

serene bolt Jul 21, 2020, 3:39 PM

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meh, why does ovh think it's a good idea to not have ipv6 pre-configured for sys servers? -.-
maybe that's a recent change...? or I'm just lucky, because I have/had working IPv6 out of the box, just needed to add an AAAA record

olive marlin Jul 21, 2020, 3:39 PM

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Just got someone report with playerdata being unable to be decoded with UTF-8

finite wave Jul 21, 2020, 3:39 PM

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Is he using 1.6

olive marlin Jul 21, 2020, 3:39 PM

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Even NBTExplorer crashes when I try to view contents of one book lol

finite wave Jul 21, 2020, 3:40 PM

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Weird

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 3:40 PM

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they want me to participate but i am in lurk only mode

twin lagoon Jul 21, 2020, 3:40 PM

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ipv6

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KEKR

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 3:41 PM

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yall are on ipv6? im still on ipv5

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Puremin0rez: I can't even connect to ipv6 with the default debian 10 install xD

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it doesn't set the ipv6 route

twin lagoon Jul 21, 2020, 3:41 PM

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KEKL

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 3:41 PM

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kenny why do you keep popping in for 2 seconds

twin lagoon Jul 21, 2020, 3:41 PM

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barty gets it

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 3:41 PM

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and I just managed to lock myself out of the server trying to get that working -.-

twin lagoon Jul 21, 2020, 3:41 PM

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i've never even gotten a complaint about it

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first thing to do is disabling ipv6 because it fucks up your entire networking on ovh

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 3:42 PM

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and now it doesn't even let me reboot into the recovery system ffs

twin lagoon Jul 21, 2020, 3:42 PM

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i'll use ipv6 when it's used widespread

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 3:42 PM

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Michael: I had zero issues on my other servers where it was either enabled by default or I added it manually

twin lagoon Jul 21, 2020, 3:42 PM

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apt update just dies with ipv6 on ovh

worn ember Jul 21, 2020, 3:43 PM

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ipv6 just works on hetzner too

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maybe the packages dont have ipv6?

twin lagoon Jul 21, 2020, 3:43 PM

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doubt

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 3:43 PM

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I blame systemd tbh

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runs

lavish nova Jul 21, 2020, 3:51 PM

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show time 🎭

📎 unknown.png

waxen panther Jul 21, 2020, 3:52 PM

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dafuq is lucky-text

lavish nova Jul 21, 2020, 3:52 PM

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a text channel

waxen panther Jul 21, 2020, 3:52 PM

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dafuq is lucky *

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 3:54 PM

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the orientation leader is a weeb and he showed us his posters

lavish nova Jul 21, 2020, 3:54 PM

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@twin lagoon those are usually due to the mirrors being misconfigured in fairness

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 3:54 PM

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someone save me

golden gust Jul 21, 2020, 3:54 PM

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glhf

tawdry holly Jul 21, 2020, 3:54 PM

#

If not paper, does anyone have an idea what might be causing this issue? https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/3969

GitHub

Dragging Items in Inventories · Issue #3969 · PaperMC/Paper

Hey. Recently, we had a strange issue where items started acting weird in players' inventories. It appears to be just a visual glitch and nothing game-breaking but it's rather annoy...

twin lagoon Jul 21, 2020, 3:54 PM

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meh

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doesn't matter if i disable ipv6 tbh

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tcpshield has ipv6

true canyon Jul 21, 2020, 3:54 PM

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I'm on ipv8. Addresses are 512 bit and represented in base256 as using an emoji charset.

finite wave Jul 21, 2020, 3:56 PM

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Nice

steel pulsar Jul 21, 2020, 3:58 PM

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my ip is directly tied to my processor speed

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in giga hertz

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 3:59 PM

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do you add the numbers up or what

steel pulsar Jul 21, 2020, 4:03 PM

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no numbers just Speed

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 4:07 PM

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someone ping me pls when shit hits the fan @ cube so I can join mission control :D

twin lagoon Jul 21, 2020, 4:11 PM

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i figured i'd throw bluemap on one of my SMP servers too

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@unreal quarry did you get any failed to read .mca files in the beginning?

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when you ran the render command

fallen sleet Jul 21, 2020, 4:13 PM

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what the fuck are these bots

twin lagoon Jul 21, 2020, 4:13 PM

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IRC bridges

finite wave Jul 21, 2020, 4:13 PM

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Ais

fallen sleet Jul 21, 2020, 4:13 PM

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where can i get rid of irc

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 4:13 PM

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awesome, now ipv6 works =D

finite wave Jul 21, 2020, 4:13 PM

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Ignore them

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 4:13 PM

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finally got my irssi on the other server

fallen sleet Jul 21, 2020, 4:13 PM

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im going to suicide

finite wave Jul 21, 2020, 4:13 PM

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Ok

unreal quarry Jul 21, 2020, 4:15 PM

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@unreal quarry did you get any failed to read .mca files in the beginning?
@twin lagoon no

twin lagoon Jul 21, 2020, 4:15 PM

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odd

unreal quarry Jul 21, 2020, 4:16 PM

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It did hang for a bit, but no errors or warnings

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(other than watchdog freaking out)

steel pulsar Jul 21, 2020, 4:18 PM

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great job on using irssi and not w**chat

fallen sleet Jul 21, 2020, 4:19 PM

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hexchat ftw

steel pulsar Jul 21, 2020, 4:19 PM

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absolutely not

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simply wrong

fallen sleet Jul 21, 2020, 4:19 PM

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it just works

fallen oracle Jul 21, 2020, 4:39 PM

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Morning!

void void Jul 21, 2020, 4:39 PM

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afternoon!

spice finch Jul 21, 2020, 4:39 PM

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📎 unknown.png

unreal quarry Jul 21, 2020, 4:41 PM

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Still morning for another 20 minutes

serene bolt Jul 21, 2020, 4:41 PM

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CST gang

minor badge Jul 21, 2020, 4:46 PM

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@serene bolt its fine to be dum 😳

serene bolt Jul 21, 2020, 4:46 PM

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brainlet

spice finch Jul 21, 2020, 4:48 PM

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root@vps12115:~/1-12-2# java -jar paperclip-1618.jar 
Downloading original jar...
Patching original jar...
Loading libraries, please wait...
[16:47:52 INFO]: Starting minecraft server version 1.12.2
[16:47:52 INFO]: Loading properties
[16:47:52 WARN]: server.properties does not exist
[16:47:52 INFO]: Generating new properties file
[16:47:52 WARN]: Failed to load eula.txt
[16:47:52 INFO]: You need to agree to the EULA in order to run the server. Go to eula.txt for more info.
[16:47:52 INFO]: Stopping server
[16:47:52 WARN]: Exception in thread "Server console handler" java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Reader was not created with TerminalConsoleAppender.getTerminal()
[16:47:52 WARN]:     at net.minecrell.terminalconsole.TerminalConsoleAppender.setReader(TerminalConsoleAppender.java:176)
[16:47:52 WARN]:     at net.minecrell.terminalconsole.SimpleTerminalConsole.readCommands(SimpleTerminalConsole.java:151)
[16:47:52 WARN]:     at net.minecrell.terminalconsole.SimpleTerminalConsole.start(SimpleTerminalConsole.java:140)
[16:47:52 WARN]:     at net.minecraft.server.v1_12_R1.DedicatedServer$2.run(DedicatedServer.java:77)

GWbopkePepethinking

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why did it throw exception

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never met smth like this

worn ember Jul 21, 2020, 4:50 PM

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outdated1 outdated2 outdated3

spice finch Jul 21, 2020, 4:51 PM

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Sorry but I want to play without lags with 60 players peepowtf

waxen panther Jul 21, 2020, 4:53 PM

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:ClownChamp:

twin lagoon Jul 21, 2020, 4:53 PM

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caughtslippin

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i need those poki emotes

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send broccy

steel pulsar Jul 21, 2020, 4:54 PM

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stop subscirinb to discord

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subscbiring

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stop giving it money

left swift Jul 21, 2020, 4:54 PM

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pokipog

waxen panther Jul 21, 2020, 4:54 PM

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or what

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pokidance pokidance2 pokidance3

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there u go michael

left swift Jul 21, 2020, 4:55 PM

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Twitch Queen

quartz peak Jul 21, 2020, 4:55 PM

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Anyone got plugins that add new dimensions to your server like Twilight Forest?

twin lagoon Jul 21, 2020, 4:55 PM

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pogWeirdChamp

waxen panther Jul 21, 2020, 4:55 PM

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WeirdChamp

latent valve Jul 21, 2020, 4:55 PM

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RumiaDance aquadance

azure flower Jul 21, 2020, 4:56 PM

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The more people who subscribe, the less likely it is hammer and chisel feel the need to add more buttons for paid things in the chat bar

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Pls subscribe

left swift Jul 21, 2020, 4:56 PM

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Loli furry mana_1_0

quartz peak Jul 21, 2020, 4:56 PM

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cat_what

latent valve Jul 21, 2020, 4:56 PM

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sadLoli

waxen panther Jul 21, 2020, 4:56 PM

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RubySorrow

serene bolt Jul 21, 2020, 4:56 PM

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AYAYASip

quasi valley Jul 21, 2020, 4:56 PM

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STOP silence

latent valve Jul 21, 2020, 4:56 PM

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yay

waxen panther Jul 21, 2020, 4:56 PM

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aRubyRun

latent valve Jul 21, 2020, 4:57 PM

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kenny

void void Jul 21, 2020, 4:57 PM

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:furryaway:

waxen panther Jul 21, 2020, 4:57 PM

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nodders

left swift Jul 21, 2020, 4:57 PM

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pepeWeird

latent valve Jul 21, 2020, 4:57 PM

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illyaSpaz

queen moat Jul 21, 2020, 4:58 PM

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So I have a bungeecord system with 3 servers, but I do want to end up expanding to 4-5 soon. Right now i'm using ApexHosting to handle it all, but I feel like it's too expensive when I know how to set up vms and self host. Would it be more affordable to rent a full linux VPS from somewhere else, and do all the server stuff myself? If so, what vps service would be good?

left swift Jul 21, 2020, 4:59 PM

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A dedicated server would be better

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Ovh, sys, hetzner depends where ur hosting

queen moat Jul 21, 2020, 5:00 PM

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Why would dedicated be better in this situation?

unreal quarry Jul 21, 2020, 5:00 PM

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Dedicated is better for all situations.. that's why it costs more..

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You can't go wrong with a dedi

left swift Jul 21, 2020, 5:00 PM

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Guess also depends on what vps you get but you can easily get shit tier vps that are oversold or straight ripoffs

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Vcore bullshit

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pepeLaugh

queen moat Jul 21, 2020, 5:01 PM

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My budget would be ~60/mo to start out, obv aws goes way too high with their pricing

quasi valley Jul 21, 2020, 5:01 PM

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You can't go wrong with a dedi
you can if you're good at destroying things

left swift Jul 21, 2020, 5:01 PM

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Look at soyoustart dedis

queen moat Jul 21, 2020, 5:01 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/sa72wyp.png tho this from hetzner looks good already

Imgur

left swift Jul 21, 2020, 5:02 PM

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Tru

fiery tapir Jul 21, 2020, 5:02 PM

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$60/mo can definitely start to get you somewhere

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way better than the $15 i have to throw around but all i have to do is run a regular server lol

queen moat Jul 21, 2020, 5:03 PM

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My lobby has ~60 people at peak, and the main server has 40

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but I want to expand with kitpvp and stuff like that so i'm trying to get as many opinions as possible

left swift Jul 21, 2020, 5:03 PM

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Best option is to go dedicated

queen moat Jul 21, 2020, 5:04 PM

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Alrighty!

left swift Jul 21, 2020, 5:04 PM

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Damn now I gotta shitpost twice as hard cuz of the help I did

queen moat Jul 21, 2020, 5:04 PM

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seems like all the paid minecraft hosts rip you off hard

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50/m for 10gb

left swift Jul 21, 2020, 5:04 PM

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Most are ripoffs

fiery tapir Jul 21, 2020, 5:05 PM

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a lot of them do, some are okay

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it's whether they oversell or not

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because if they oversell, that's where problems start

unreal quarry Jul 21, 2020, 5:06 PM

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Not most, all. Hosts literally just rent a dedi and sell you a piece of the pie. Add up all the pie costs and bet your ass they make a profit. Bigger the piece of pie you get, the more you're getting ripped off. Just rent the whole dedi and stop paying the middleman for a slice

steel pulsar Jul 21, 2020, 5:07 PM

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correct

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as respected authority figure in this discord i approve this post

left swift Jul 21, 2020, 5:07 PM

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Who

fiery tapir Jul 21, 2020, 5:07 PM

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i'd do that if i could find an american dedi host for $15 lol, perfectly fine paying that for one of the less sketchy vps guys

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a 6-player server does not a dedi need

steel pulsar Jul 21, 2020, 5:08 PM

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yea buy a dedicated server for 15 dollars per month

unreal quarry Jul 21, 2020, 5:08 PM

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looks at his 2 player $120/mo dedi

left swift Jul 21, 2020, 5:08 PM

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I'll sell you half my raspberry pi for 50$ month

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Tps boost service extra 100$ though

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The new host meta

fiery tapir Jul 21, 2020, 5:09 PM

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if you've got the needs and the funds for a dedi then go for it lol

golden gust Jul 21, 2020, 5:09 PM

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Issue with shared hosts is that you're back into the "buying a slice"

queen moat Jul 21, 2020, 5:09 PM

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Damn the good dedicated I saw was in germany sad

golden gust Jul 21, 2020, 5:09 PM

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but, you're buying a slice of something spec'd out for something totally oposite to your requirements

queen moat Jul 21, 2020, 5:09 PM

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you're buying a slice then risking resource reallocation whenever you're not capping out performance

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which REALLY pisses me off

golden gust Jul 21, 2020, 5:09 PM

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Only reason to go for a VPS over a shared host is if you /really/ need the level of control and can find a decent provider

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But, otherwise, non-totally-shit shared hosts are gonna give you better bang for the buck

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and that's really just sad as all shit, but, it's what it is

left swift Jul 21, 2020, 5:10 PM

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Haha bang

queen moat Jul 21, 2020, 5:10 PM

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All I want is to be able to RDP or something into an environment to setup

steel pulsar Jul 21, 2020, 5:10 PM

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probably because it's not economically viable to run a vps provider service without fucking the customer

queen moat Jul 21, 2020, 5:10 PM

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and not have someone charging me a fortune to do what I can already do

golden gust Jul 21, 2020, 5:10 PM

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RDP

queen moat Jul 21, 2020, 5:10 PM

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or something

golden gust Jul 21, 2020, 5:10 PM

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and microsoft licenses are not cheap

queen moat Jul 21, 2020, 5:11 PM

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Yea I'd go linux

left swift Jul 21, 2020, 5:11 PM

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Nothing is economically viable without a little customer fuckin

fiery tapir Jul 21, 2020, 5:11 PM

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viva la capitalism

queen moat Jul 21, 2020, 5:11 PM

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I'm actually hosting from a server blade I own at home, that's working flawlessly

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EXCEPT my upload speed is 15mbps

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so my network dies if too many players join

steel pulsar Jul 21, 2020, 5:12 PM

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i wanna say there's a difference btween fucking the customer in the Ass and just 'hehe maintenance fee :)"

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i prefer latter

left swift Jul 21, 2020, 5:12 PM

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A fucking is a fucking

fiery tapir Jul 21, 2020, 5:14 PM

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yeah but some places do you gentle and sweet

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others skullfuck you raw with a sandpaper condom

left swift Jul 21, 2020, 5:16 PM

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As long as they call me back the next day I dont care 🥺 👉 👈

fiery tapir Jul 21, 2020, 5:18 PM

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that's the ones with good customer service

unreal quarry Jul 21, 2020, 5:18 PM

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a fucking with a smile, eh?

fiery tapir Jul 21, 2020, 5:20 PM

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yep

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that's what akliz was lmao, a 5-player server ran like shit on their hardware

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dunno if it was the 3gb of ram, overselling, or dynmap go brrrrrrr but even without dynmap it felt bad once >3 people joined

unreal quarry Jul 21, 2020, 5:22 PM

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i could never use anything other than a dedi. worth every penny to have total freedom to do whatever i want with the machine

fiery tapir Jul 21, 2020, 5:23 PM

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and i use a shared host because i play with five other friends that just wanna play minecraft lol, none of us particularly care about all that

unreal quarry Jul 21, 2020, 5:23 PM

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dont even need good customer support. just give me a box with an internet connection and thats all i need

steel pulsar Jul 21, 2020, 5:24 PM

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and then the intenrt connection goes down and the ticket is responded to with "sorry you seem to have incompatible firewall software we cannot help you with this" despite the problem clearly being upstream connectivity

unreal quarry Jul 21, 2020, 5:25 PM

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if the internet connection goes down then you got bigger problems than dealing with customer support and should look into a better NOC

quartz peak Jul 21, 2020, 5:33 PM

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Anyone got some good plugins that add new worlds to paper servers. I saw Twilight Forest but that’s for 1.12

grave oxide Jul 21, 2020, 5:33 PM

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multiverse

queen moat Jul 21, 2020, 5:34 PM

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twilight forest is also a forge mod

quartz peak Jul 21, 2020, 5:35 PM

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Yeah realized that too

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Looks really cool but it’s a 1.12 forge mod so eh

queen moat Jul 21, 2020, 5:36 PM

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there's so many things minecraft could've done differently to make it better for servers

quartz peak Jul 21, 2020, 5:36 PM

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Multiverse the only plugin around?

queen moat Jul 21, 2020, 5:36 PM

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JustWorlds?

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I use bungeecord to do everything tho so I can't say

unreal quarry Jul 21, 2020, 5:37 PM

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Hyperverse is a good one

steel pulsar Jul 21, 2020, 5:37 PM

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hyper piss

quartz peak Jul 21, 2020, 5:38 PM

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Weird can’t find it on YouTube to see what it looks like

unreal quarry Jul 21, 2020, 5:38 PM

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but, all these multi world plugins out there (theres quite a few of them) do is allow loading in more than the default 3 dimensions (worlds). if you want any of them to generate different terrrain you need a terrain generator plugin, which there are also many of those scattered about

twin lagoon Jul 21, 2020, 5:59 PM

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@minor badge

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minor badge Jul 21, 2020, 5:59 PM

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woa

finite wave Jul 21, 2020, 6:01 PM

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Oh my

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Is this the morse code i heard about

grave oxide Jul 21, 2020, 6:01 PM

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isnt it braille?

waxen panther Jul 21, 2020, 6:05 PM

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quasi valley Jul 21, 2020, 6:05 PM

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smolStop

waxen panther Jul 21, 2020, 6:06 PM

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make me

quasi valley Jul 21, 2020, 6:06 PM

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I will consume you

waxen panther Jul 21, 2020, 6:06 PM

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🥵

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 6:06 PM

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o god https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/Duhe40lm/image.png

waxen panther Jul 21, 2020, 6:06 PM

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good

finite wave Jul 21, 2020, 6:06 PM

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Is that a promise kenny?

quasi valley Jul 21, 2020, 6:06 PM

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more than that.

steel pulsar Jul 21, 2020, 6:17 PM

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https://i.vgy.me/NchDUY.png

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heres what a real irc client looks like

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and that's not all brother, that's all my terminals as well, in one 101x28 window

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mark of a true professional

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 6:20 PM

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then why are you still talking on discord

quartz peak Jul 21, 2020, 6:20 PM

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good alternative to ultimate timber?

finite wave Jul 21, 2020, 6:21 PM

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.g ultimate timber spigotmc

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 6:21 PM

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(DiscordBot) https://songoda.com/marketplace/product/ultimatetimber-the-realistic-tree-chopper.18 -- UltimateTimber - The Realistic Tree Chopper - Songoda: "The one stop marketplace for all the Minecraft plugins you will ever need. ... Ultimate. Give your players a new and entertaining way to chop down..."

The one stop marketplace for all the Minecraft plugins you will ever need.

finite wave Jul 21, 2020, 6:21 PM

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Lol

mighty storm Jul 21, 2020, 6:21 PM

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OH GOD

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 6:21 PM

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thats the wrong url chief

quartz peak Jul 21, 2020, 6:21 PM

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saw smooth timber but noticed if you accidently use on a house it falls like a tree too

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 6:21 PM

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forbidden territory

steel pulsar Jul 21, 2020, 6:21 PM

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i don't really know how to set up the irc bridge and also i'm in 50 discords, 90% of which do not allow webhooks

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 6:21 PM

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well then they arent important enough to be in

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ez

steel pulsar Jul 21, 2020, 6:22 PM

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but video game

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 6:22 PM

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i too am in 453 other discord servers yet if theres an irc bridge im already on irc

steel pulsar Jul 21, 2020, 6:23 PM

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yeah but then it's like, some of them would be in the terminal window and some would be in the discord client, and then i'd have to move them based on if they allow irc bridges in the future

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i've already done bitlbee and xmpp dog shit, it's not worth it

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 6:24 PM

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btilbee is kinda cool

steel pulsar Jul 21, 2020, 6:25 PM

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some of their hooks suck and barely work, sending double messages, failing to load messages with unsupported unicodes / other shit like reactions and image embeds

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 6:30 PM

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whose, btilbee?

quartz peak Jul 21, 2020, 6:31 PM

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anyone know why a new player is giving some tools on my server? What I use.

📎 unknown.png

steel pulsar Jul 21, 2020, 6:31 PM

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chew: yes

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 6:31 PM

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essentials has a kit on join

finite wave Jul 21, 2020, 6:31 PM

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Essentials has stone tools as starter kit by default right?

quartz peak Jul 21, 2020, 6:31 PM

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oh that explains why

steel pulsar Jul 21, 2020, 6:32 PM

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it would be EssentialsXSpawn

quartz peak Jul 21, 2020, 6:32 PM

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weird didnt do that before

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 6:32 PM

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it's in the plugins/Essentials/config.yml tho

steel pulsar Jul 21, 2020, 6:32 PM

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also get rid of villageoptimiser it's useless

uncut moss Jul 21, 2020, 6:32 PM

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but

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what about the asyncronized villagers extra fast

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 6:33 PM

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a lot of those plugins are outdated too

finite wave Jul 21, 2020, 6:33 PM

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My server is all async

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I schedule a thread for each method call or field access

uncut moss Jul 21, 2020, 6:33 PM

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good

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great performance gain

void void Jul 21, 2020, 6:33 PM

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no performance is the same as infinite performance because you cannot quantify both

quartz peak Jul 21, 2020, 6:34 PM

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anyway to turn off the feature for giving tools when a new player joins?

uncut moss Jul 21, 2020, 6:34 PM

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essentials config

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it's in the plugins/Essentials/config.yml tho

finite wave Jul 21, 2020, 6:34 PM

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Turn off starter kit

uncut moss Jul 21, 2020, 6:35 PM

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tfw banned for xray but not even using it

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2 good

finite wave Jul 21, 2020, 6:35 PM

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Ikr

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If you are too lucky, ban.

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 6:35 PM

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Hotel: we over color tv! and free wifi! https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/nifDVQ5x/image.png

uncut moss Jul 21, 2020, 6:36 PM

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it was on the ltt server

finite wave Jul 21, 2020, 6:36 PM

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Multi what shit

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Lol

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 6:36 PM

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multi chat RGB COLOR SUPPORT BTW

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WE HAVE RGB COLOR

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like ok so does everyone else

finite wave Jul 21, 2020, 6:36 PM

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Ltt is using hyperverse thats about all i know

uncut moss Jul 21, 2020, 6:36 PM

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but is the rgb asyncronized

finite wave Jul 21, 2020, 6:36 PM

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About their server

uncut moss Jul 21, 2020, 6:36 PM

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i was banned from ltt survival for xray like 2 days ago

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wasn't using xray, don't even have it installed

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 6:37 PM

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honeslty multichat is the only plugin I know that actually has global bungee Join messages

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thats all i use it for

finite wave Jul 21, 2020, 6:37 PM

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@vestal jasper feature request

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 6:38 PM

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i love seeing authors with 24 plugins not have any of them premium

quartz peak Jul 21, 2020, 6:38 PM

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this?

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uncut moss Jul 21, 2020, 6:38 PM

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3 free plugins + 21 premium

finite wave Jul 21, 2020, 6:38 PM

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The guy that is all modular and has more than 30 modules for one plugin great

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 6:38 PM

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you mean placeholderapi?

finite wave Jul 21, 2020, 6:38 PM

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I got 2 public plugins on spigot

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No chew

steel pulsar Jul 21, 2020, 6:38 PM

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yes, see how it says 'kit', that's the 'kit' part

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hence, 'kit'

uncut moss Jul 21, 2020, 6:39 PM

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i don't mind premium plugins as long as they're good quality and a reasonable price

void void Jul 21, 2020, 6:39 PM

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Would you care for a.....

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BANANA SPLIT

finite wave Jul 21, 2020, 6:39 PM

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Can’t remember the name tho

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 6:39 PM

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I have 2

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103 total downloads 😄

void void Jul 21, 2020, 6:39 PM

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cat_what

uncut moss Jul 21, 2020, 6:40 PM

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average rating across all my plugins is 5.0

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 6:40 PM

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average for me is NaN

uncut moss Jul 21, 2020, 6:40 PM

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i'm positively surprised every time somebody uses PM/discussions for bug reports rather than 1-star reviews

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 6:41 PM

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https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/n2TnnYtN/image.png

uncut moss Jul 21, 2020, 6:41 PM

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people don't read

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and i didn't read the last sentence either lol

void void Jul 21, 2020, 6:42 PM

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Never pay for music

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They already have enough money

steel pulsar Jul 21, 2020, 6:43 PM

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great take

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 6:43 PM

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except for the smaller artists who barely get anything]

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who deserve to get paid for their hard work

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what about them? they earn too much?

uncut moss Jul 21, 2020, 6:43 PM

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if nobody paid for it they wouldn't have had the money

void void Jul 21, 2020, 6:44 PM

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@chew#0000 okay virgin

steel pulsar Jul 21, 2020, 6:44 PM

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thats not how you highlight irc users

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 6:44 PM

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ad hominem

finite wave Jul 21, 2020, 6:45 PM

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Did you call him homo?

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Whats wrong with you

serene bolt Jul 21, 2020, 6:45 PM

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gay

void void Jul 21, 2020, 6:45 PM

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outdated2

uncut moss Jul 21, 2020, 6:49 PM

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outdated1 outdated2 outdated3

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outdated

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i thought emotes had to be square

finite wave Jul 21, 2020, 6:50 PM

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spam

cedar spade Jul 21, 2020, 6:52 PM

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:outdated2:

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thanks Discord

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 6:52 PM

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you think thats spam check irc

steel pulsar Jul 21, 2020, 6:52 PM

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works perfectly

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works as intended

finite wave Jul 21, 2020, 6:53 PM

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sure

steel pulsar Jul 21, 2020, 6:53 PM

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irc user outdated1 outdated3

finite wave Jul 21, 2020, 6:53 PM

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My emotes still stolen by the paper plebs

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reactions**

steel pulsar Jul 21, 2020, 6:54 PM

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imagine that it says 'outed' thanks

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 6:55 PM

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I feel very oued

finite wave Jul 21, 2020, 6:55 PM

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OwOWhatsThis

vagrant niche Jul 21, 2020, 7:00 PM

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🐔 ngts

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 7:00 PM

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i love when people ping someone then are like "sorry for the ping" like don't ping them

worn ember Jul 21, 2020, 7:01 PM

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chew sorry for the ping

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 7:01 PM

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darkeyedragon sorry for the not ping

steel pulsar Jul 21, 2020, 7:02 PM

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does my entire message turn yellow for you if i include your nickname

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if not your settings are broken

void void Jul 21, 2020, 7:02 PM

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have fun

golden gust Jul 21, 2020, 7:02 PM

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@imanidiot sorry for the ping, but...

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 7:02 PM

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ur gonna WHAT

worn ember Jul 21, 2020, 7:04 PM

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yeah chew ing stuff is cool

quasi valley Jul 21, 2020, 7:05 PM

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my first message to cat: sorry for the direct ping, but >direct ping< https://i.imgur.com/OSFhN0z.png

Imgur

worn ember Jul 21, 2020, 7:05 PM

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show whole message you pussy

quasi valley Jul 21, 2020, 7:05 PM

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nah was just some nonsense over a youtuber project 😂

waxen panther Jul 21, 2020, 7:06 PM

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DIRECT PING

quasi valley Jul 21, 2020, 7:06 PM

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basically "does the server run well", so couldn't be more of a 10/10 reason to pm a project dev

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kappa

worn ember Jul 21, 2020, 7:06 PM

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smh

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real dissapointment

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i expected better of you

ashen cliff Jul 21, 2020, 7:07 PM

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https://posili.me/i/2020-07-21_21-07-17.png

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Daily reminder.

minor badge Jul 21, 2020, 7:08 PM

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cat never talks with me

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😔

golden gust Jul 21, 2020, 7:08 PM

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everytime I think of something to send you am just like "wait, no, that's too lewd to DM somebody you've probs never DM'd before"

vernal moth Jul 21, 2020, 7:09 PM

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I can top it

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golden gust Jul 21, 2020, 7:09 PM

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lol

vernal moth Jul 21, 2020, 7:09 PM

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Cat and I have a very special relationship

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Also

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Man

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2017

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Wtf

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Did somebody tell you "ur old" before cat?

steel pulsar Jul 21, 2020, 7:11 PM

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i have quakenet irc logs from 2006

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beat that discord teenagers

golden gust Jul 21, 2020, 7:11 PM

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quasi valley Jul 21, 2020, 7:12 PM

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oO

ivory light Jul 21, 2020, 7:16 PM

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lamo that "the fitnessgram pacer test"

golden gust Jul 21, 2020, 7:18 PM

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finite wave Jul 21, 2020, 7:19 PM

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nice

surreal adder Jul 21, 2020, 7:27 PM

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what's the best jar to run on a 1.7.10 server? should i use spigot or something else?

finite wave Jul 21, 2020, 7:28 PM

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Just don't run it.

surreal adder Jul 21, 2020, 7:28 PM

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i want to run a 1.7.10 server tho

finite wave Jul 21, 2020, 7:29 PM

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Go elsewhere

quasi valley Jul 21, 2020, 7:29 PM

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get outdated1 t

surreal adder Jul 21, 2020, 7:30 PM

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bruh idk where to go

quasi valley Jul 21, 2020, 7:30 PM

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~~to 1.16~~

void void Jul 21, 2020, 7:30 PM

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outdated servers united

finite wave Jul 21, 2020, 7:30 PM

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mc market

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gl

true canyon Jul 21, 2020, 7:31 PM

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Best jar to run for a 1.7.10 server is a jar that reinstalls your operating system, probably.

sharp spindle Jul 21, 2020, 7:31 PM

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hello @peak ginkgo

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funny seeing you here!

ocean moon Jul 21, 2020, 7:36 PM

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Anyone have a recommendation for a permissions plugin?

serene bolt Jul 21, 2020, 7:37 PM

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LuckPerms

finite wave Jul 21, 2020, 7:37 PM

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.g luckperms

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 7:37 PM

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(DiscordBot) https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/luckperms.28140/ -- LuckPerms | SpigotMC - High Performance Minecraft: "LuckPerms is a permissions plugin for Minecraft servers (Bukkit/Spigot, BungeeCord & more). It allows server admins to control what features ..."

SpigotMC - High Performance Minecraft

LuckPerms

true canyon Jul 21, 2020, 7:39 PM

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The recommendation these days is LuckPerms.

serene bolt Jul 21, 2020, 7:40 PM

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I held onto PEX up until a year ago, my sweet sweet PEX. LuckPerms fills the gap perfectly and is wonderful

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 7:41 PM

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yeah same

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glad i made the switch

worn ember Jul 21, 2020, 7:44 PM

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thonkeng

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limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 7:44 PM

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why don't u dm me electronic :(

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oh nvm u did

worn ember Jul 21, 2020, 7:44 PM

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imagine dming someone on IRC

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ew

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 7:44 PM

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https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/IUcczYKM/image.png

finite wave Jul 21, 2020, 7:45 PM

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PepeLaugh

uncut moss Jul 21, 2020, 7:47 PM

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how tf would you map 1:m relationships to java objects with plain jdbc

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this is a pain in the ass

worn ember Jul 21, 2020, 7:47 PM

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i'd like to report toxic behavior from paper people on my spigot page kek

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limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 7:47 PM

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whos profile

quasi valley Jul 21, 2020, 7:47 PM

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tntup kekw

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 7:48 PM

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"I would like to report this harassment"

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likes every comment

worn ember Jul 21, 2020, 7:48 PM

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oops

serene bolt Jul 21, 2020, 7:48 PM

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that'd be an easy report to deal with

worn ember Jul 21, 2020, 7:48 PM

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@uncut moss get the object you want then get all the related rows?

uncut moss Jul 21, 2020, 7:49 PM

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two joined tables

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 7:49 PM

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instant ignore pre?

worn ember Jul 21, 2020, 7:49 PM

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all banned

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 7:49 PM

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can u promote me to MoD (manager on duty)

worn ember Jul 21, 2020, 7:49 PM

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@uncut moss how does it matter that they're joined?

uncut moss Jul 21, 2020, 7:49 PM

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ugh

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nevermind

worn ember Jul 21, 2020, 7:49 PM

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i dont get the issue

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no plz explain

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ive literally been doing the same thing all day

uncut moss Jul 21, 2020, 7:50 PM

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because it's not 1 row = 1 object

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which makes it a pita

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to do manually

worn ember Jul 21, 2020, 7:50 PM

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well one row should represent one object tbh thonkeng

uncut moss Jul 21, 2020, 7:51 PM

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no

quasi valley Jul 21, 2020, 7:51 PM

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no

worn ember Jul 21, 2020, 7:51 PM

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wtf

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then your db isnt normalized properly?

quasi valley Jul 21, 2020, 7:51 PM

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ur a dum fuk ded

uncut moss Jul 21, 2020, 7:51 PM

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...

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i'm using left join

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 7:51 PM

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based data?

uncut moss Jul 21, 2020, 7:51 PM

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it'll be one row per object if the many side is 1 or less

worn ember Jul 21, 2020, 7:52 PM

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can you show me your db scheme cuz im honestly not following

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bigbrain

quasi valley Jul 21, 2020, 7:53 PM

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let me express all the hahas I just had

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cough

serene bolt Jul 21, 2020, 7:53 PM

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I think he posted the spider one that was in here yesterday too

uncut moss Jul 21, 2020, 7:53 PM

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it's just a plain ass one to many relationship

cunning raft Jul 21, 2020, 7:54 PM

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haHAA

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 7:55 PM

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What record exactly https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/wQ5fIqeG/1595361306.JPG

gleaming zealot Jul 21, 2020, 7:55 PM

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xD

cunning raft Jul 21, 2020, 7:55 PM

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feature on the new kanye song

worn ember Jul 21, 2020, 7:55 PM

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https://pastie.io/mvwyaa.java thats how i do it for my quests

quasi valley Jul 21, 2020, 7:55 PM

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just took a glance at #paper-help, and nopedinopenope, good thing I don't ever do that

uncut moss Jul 21, 2020, 7:55 PM

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amount of mexicans banned in 24hrs

quasi valley Jul 21, 2020, 7:56 PM

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and you're wondering why your mental health is 10/10, cat kappa

uncut moss Jul 21, 2020, 7:57 PM

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is that all

worn ember Jul 21, 2020, 7:57 PM

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yeah...

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well

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this gets all the quests

kindred storm Jul 21, 2020, 7:57 PM

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pulling every quest every time

worn ember Jul 21, 2020, 7:58 PM

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its a db query ofc its gonna pull every time?

ocean moon Jul 21, 2020, 7:58 PM

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@serene bolt thanks

cosmic raft Jul 21, 2020, 7:59 PM

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.halp

limber knotBOT Jul 21, 2020, 7:59 PM

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/555469074080202765/561287494075678721/image0.png

kindred storm Jul 21, 2020, 7:59 PM

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I used to do things similarly to you, though at least I didn't select every value every time. I used SQL databases as a key-value store, using player UUIDs, for example.

uncut moss Jul 21, 2020, 7:59 PM

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my question was about mapping one to many relationships though

worn ember Jul 21, 2020, 7:59 PM

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well i need all the fields

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why wouldnt i get them all?

kindred storm Jul 21, 2020, 7:59 PM

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But beyond basic player statistics I soon realised that isn't the best approach

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You're getting all rows

worn ember Jul 21, 2020, 8:00 PM

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yes and looping over them

kindred storm Jul 21, 2020, 8:00 PM

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and you discard some, right?

worn ember Jul 21, 2020, 8:00 PM

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no

mighty storm Jul 21, 2020, 8:00 PM

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Drop them now. They are one of the worse host you can ever get
@warm anchor what happened here

worn ember Jul 21, 2020, 8:00 PM

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its literally a fetch all query

kindred storm Jul 21, 2020, 8:00 PM

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oh, that's fine

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though I really don't know what your quests are like so I guess I shouldn't guess what structure your db should use

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public static Set<Quest> fetchQuests() might want to fix that as well

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um, is fetchObjectives(quest) another query?

worn ember Jul 21, 2020, 8:02 PM

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yeah i could figure out how to properly do that in one query cuz its many to many

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heres the scheme btw (not fully done yet)

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kindred storm Jul 21, 2020, 8:03 PM

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oh okay, that makes more sense

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for some reason I thought something else was going on here

worn ember Jul 21, 2020, 8:03 PM

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yeah no, i want objectives to be reusable

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so i had to deal with many to many relations

uncut moss Jul 21, 2020, 8:04 PM

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how 2 make scheme like that

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i'll make one so you'll understand lol