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#general
void void
finite wave
I mean
1.8.8 forks could just be a fork kept up to date (with bugs and exploits) and be worth a lot of money.
uncut moss
look the potions are asyncronized, 100% tps gain
finite wave
But all those other weird thing idek
static badge
server side improvements can be made to improve hit detection
void void
damn potions lagging my server
finite wave
They just plastered it on while increasing hitbox by 1.6
uncut moss
ppSpigot
finite wave
Heheh 😏
uncut moss
imma asyncronize the pigs
grave oxide
no no no, do async
neat smelt
no no no, do multithread
static badge
spread your work accross threads like butter accross toast
void void
create a thread for everything
grave oxide
lets outsource it
grave oxide
What if we just ran the tps meter on a different thread
uncut moss
lol who tf buys these
finite wave
Every method invocation needs to be run on their own thread
void void
for somebody that cant pick a spoon because of laziness
steel pulsar
theres all sorts of dog shit
finite wave
Ol
Preconfigured what
For what
My plugins? No!
Their plugins? Yes.
“PaperSpigot”
limber knotBOT
@finite wave [Auto] We're now known as Paper.
void void
4 pounds
neat smelt
just rebrand paper as paperoni and sell it on mc-market
void void
id rather use those for a packet of doritos and mountian dew
neat smelt
most of them are doing it on mc-market
1.8 forks are mostly taco and 1.15 / 1.16 are tuinity
just with some fake options & optimized configs
finite wave
Kek
uncut moss
there’s extremely generic “survival setups” for 40 gbp
void void
PaperSpigot
limber knotBOT
@void void [Auto] We're now known as Paper.
void void
no fak u
finite wave
.paperspigot
limber knotBOT
DiscordBot: [Auto] We're now known as Paper.
finite wave
Hehehe
uncut moss
tfw a weird 70 year old man decides to sit next to me on a train where there’s a free spot directly in front
fuck off
void void
did that happen now?
uncut moss
yes
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kkkoronavirus
void void
i would probably just move out
finite wave
Did he talk to you?
uncut moss
no
void void
did you mumble under ur nose?
uncut moss
he was looking for somewhere to sit, free double spot right in front of me, he kinda stares at me and sits down next to me then leaves lol
void void
uncut moss
he’s walking back and forth looking for a spot
void void
what?
void void
when ur next stop
steel pulsar
should probably move away from him
uncut moss
i’m getting off in like 40 min
void void
oh fuck
finite wave
I mean get off a little sooner then
uncut moss
nah i wanna get home
finite wave
Meh
void void
drink redbull
finite wave
Pussy
void void
😐
uncut moss
america
void void
only little kids would believe it anyway
uncut moss
i’M gOinG tO sUe yOU
void void
"ok"
finite wave
Peppis as if suing anyone while being a swede will work
steel pulsar
being able to move away from fucks in subways is an important exercise in self esteem
uncut moss
it won’t
steel pulsar
highly recommeneded
uncut moss
or i mean not for unimportant shit
peak zenith
i made a visualization of Paper GitHub development: https://youtu.be/ZiGRAGQXArQ
finite wave
Only americans can get away with those weird lawsuits
uncut moss
he moved away from me first
peak zenith
oi fuckheads, watch my video
uncut moss
i think he’s the type of guy that would think that’s hot and do it to me
finite wave
Nty not atm moobihh
serene bolt
hey I'm in that video
peak zenith
it's not for you @finite wave
finite wave
Ok 😕
worn ember
peak zenith
yeah anyone who contributed to development is in the video
peak zenith
ok it's for you then
worn ember
still have your table tho
finite wave
Table?
worn ember
no table
uncut moss
“i made”
it’s just gource
finite wave
It’s for people like pure who is special
uncut moss
wut
uncut moss
yeah wtf
peak zenith
yeah it's mentioned in the description
serene bolt
lol in that video aikar just drops off the face of the planet, and billy and leaf show up "let us introduce ourselves"
peak zenith
"GitHub development of Paper Minecraft using Gource"
steel pulsar
open gource
void void
do any of you know haskell?
worn ember
why do the patches get nuked every so often?
steel pulsar
i did assembly 15 years ago if that helps
void void
no haskell is declarative language
steel pulsar
yea it fuckin sucks
void void
like sql
peak zenith
don't act like you're not impressed @steel pulsar
steel pulsar
about what
uncut moss
lol i bet $1000 there’s better ones for way cheaper
urban depot
just use ncp
steel pulsar
pay 30 dollars for something that AAC already does for 10 dollars less
void void
best anticheat is people
worn ember
paying for anticheat to begin with
void void
anticheat
tbh
i would pay for one
ncp isn't hard to get around and neither is AAC
i have used free ones
that are bad
worn ember
theres this one simple trick to stop all pvp cheats
pvp-enabled: false
void void
even with good configs
neat smelt
verus is pretty good
urban depot
ncp seems good
steel pulsar
anticheat is required when you host servers for communities inhabiting rats and goblins like me
worn ember
its just a matter of who can find the best hacked client
steel pulsar
they all do the same thing
steel pulsar
i've bought ~5 hacked clients just to see how they work
mighty storm
anti cheat? You mean active, trained staff members?
void void
lel
worn ember
i remember when you could open inventories with freecam
void void
client side inventories
worn ember
no, chests and such
fiery tapir
i have to wonder why minecraft has such a hard time rendering leaves
even sodium has a bad time with fancy leaves
worn ember
even when they were locked
void void
i mean like client side inventories was epic
fiery tapir
gotta love seeing a jungle biome make a 1070 cry
tbh it's probably all the transparency, doubt it's culled at all and instead has to draw shit for very fucking leaf block
serene bolt
so far the only major issue with sodium i've discovered is water behind glass / stained glass
looks really messed up
it's culling the water a bit too hard
fiery tapir
looks fine to me
mighty storm
thats cursed
serene bolt
neat smelt
whats sodium?
void void
salt
quasi valley
fabric mod, a modern optifine
worn ember
🧂
neat smelt
^^
fiery tapir
optifine but gooder
mighty storm
optifine but good
steel pulsar
there's an alternative to optifine???
worn ember
does it support shaders?
serene bolt
nope, it's a performance mod
worn ember
smh
void void
theres not a shaders mod yet i think on fabric
quasi valley
optifabric
uncut moss
optifine?
quasi valley
runs
neat smelt
sodium sounds great tbh
worn ember
optifire
neat smelt
IS THERE A 1.8 RELEASE CANIDATE?
steel pulsar
openGL based
fiery tapir
canvas exists i guess
uncut moss
i use optifabric lol no problem
mighty storm
i dont get how optifine has shaders, i thought optifine was supposed to help performance not allow you to hurt it
serene bolt
optifabric was discontinued too in favor of sodium
spice finch
hello 1.8.8 fabric optifine wen?
neat smelt
xd
void void
shaders mod merged with of
uncut moss
optifabric 1.16.1 exists tho
serene bolt
yeah it does, he just doesn't plan on updating it anymore
worn ember
probably just thermal throttled runs
void void
nah
fiery tapir
i have to wonder, are the 1.8 people still playing for the performance or are they really that much of a diehard fanbase of spamclick combat?
KEK
fiery tapir
yeah whatever's going on there doesn't seem right but my god the framerate does
worn ember
uwu notices your kernel anti-cheat
worn ember
now he can read it
neat smelt
hell does sodium sound promising
void void
sodium chloride
steel pulsar
sodium seems to work pretty well
void void
sodium is great
worn ember
gl running linux as your main OS in school
neat smelt
@fiery tapir diehard fanbase of spamclick combat
void void
DID YOU KNOW
steel pulsar
i don't know the game ran at 120fps before and it still does so
serene bolt
I get 194 fps on 32 chunk distance in single player with sodium
worn ember
i get that without sodium xD
fiery tapir
sodium makes my 1070 feel like a fucking 1070
fiery tapir
i mean come on, it's fucking minecraft! i should be watching my gpu fucking obliterate it
void void
does it optfine?
fiery tapir
it's a replacement for optifine yes
serene bolt
sodium is a fabric mod, install fabric, drop sodium in mods folder, gg
waxen panther
no optifabric on 1.17 + will be a shame
worn ember
its not even the GPU thats the issue, its just that mc is mostly CPU lul
serene bolt
sodium + phosphor + lithium = the god trio
void void
have you tried
fiery tapir
there's some stuff you might be missing from optifine with sodium but they provide a modlist for what to grab instead lol
void void
setting the render distance to 32 chunks
fiery tapir
i grabbed all three for my client lol
uncut moss
minecraft performs better with optifine and shaders than without optifine at all for me
worn ember
optifine never did anything for me
serene bolt
https://discordapp.com/channels/289587909051416579/555469074080202765/733385824166609029
look at minis comparison screenshots of vanilla vs sodium and you'll quickly understand the difference
fiery tapir
WI zoom is great, so fucking nice to have a zoom option that lets you scroll to zoom in more! and doesn't do the stupid cinematic camera!
fiery tapir
it's configurable in at least one of those mods
uncut moss
it is in optifine
neat smelt
also in optifine
void void
do you know how to zoom on vanilla client?
fiery tapir
oh guess i'm stupid
void void
lel
worn ember
its ok you cant help it
neat smelt
optifines zoom literally is just fov reducing when key pressed
fiery tapir
chug turtle master for turbo zoom
fiery tapir
Connected Block Textures (CBT)
goddamnit
serene bolt
disabling dynamic fov is really the only optifine feature i basically required, because i hate servers or things giving me speed 3 and my screen just ultra zooming out. but there's a fabric mod for that so :P
fiery tapir
yeah you drink one speed potion and suddenly you're playing quake 3
neat smelt
does sodium also tend to fix vanilla rendering bugs?
void void
or when you already play in max fov and you're getting speed potion applied
yeah
suddenly you see 360 degrees around you
smh my smh
neat smelt
i have one that is present since ever, which never got fixed
quasi valley
playing with max fov
void void
ew
unreal quarry
i refuse to use optifine anymore. it changes too much in the game for my liking
fiery tapir
haha closed-source core rewrite go brrrrrr
serene bolt
yeah i dropped optifine the other day when sodium got a 1.0 release
quasi valley
it's just that you don't even need it anymore, only if you want shaders or maybe connected textures
serene bolt
95 fov is the highest I can go before everything just gets too warped for me
fiery tapir
reminder that minecraft fov is jankass vertical fov
void void
default fov is 70 right?
serene bolt
i think so
unreal quarry
it's just that you don't even need it anymore
nah, i would love to use it for more than just shaders. but when it changes basic things like particles ignoring collision boxes... yeah, thats too much.
serene bolt
FOV in Minecraft is just handled really badly, its like a cone and it warps around the entire screen
neat smelt
the optimal fov depends on how big your screen is and how far away you are
void void
and how broken your eyes are
fiery tapir
it's also vertical fov instead of horizontal like every other game ever
neat smelt
small screen + far away, low fov
big screen + sitting 10 cm away from it, high fov
void void
i have 21:9 idk
sitting 10cm away from it? wat
do you realize how short 10cm is?
big screen + sitting close = eyes breaking, point exactly
serene bolt
i use 105 or 110 fov in most games, MC is the only one I use under 100 in because of the gross stretching
fiery tapir
100 minecraft fov is 130 actual fov
unreal quarry
FOV in Minecraft is just handled really badly, its like a cone and it warps around the entire screen
@serene bolt, spanned 2 screens and sized down vertically = best FOV
quasi valley
one thing I do very much prefer with optifine over sodium is keeping vanilla option menus
I really don't like that weird sodium menu, only reminds me of these janky hack client menus
neat smelt
ew sodium changes menus?
fiery tapir
just the graphics menus
quasi valley
serene bolt
the video options menu is entirely custom / non vanilla theme'd
neat smelt
kotz
fiery tapir
quasi valley
I want to know if something is a slider before I hover over it for example
neat smelt
sodiums video options suck
fiery tapir
yeah sodium is unfortunately not very configurable
quasi valley
it's not terrible, but not ideal either imo
serene bolt
at least the latest dev build lets me disable the gross fog
fiery tapir
the sodium ui reminds me of the tetra ui
but frankly that's just because of the black and white minecraft text
serene bolt
I also like that sodium applies the smooth shading / lighting effect to liquids as well, so under water doesn't look blocky with light everywhere now
void void
tbh i hate gui code, its just horrible to look at and write
waxen panther
neat smelt
Done (1.756s)! For help, type "help"
my server is fast
quasi valley
ah rip sodium just crashed on me
fiery tapir
turbo server
neat smelt
where can i see all loaded mods in fabric?
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/modmenu -- Mod Menu - Mods - Minecraft - CurseForge: "Using ModMenu v1.14.2 for Minecraft 1.16.1, released 30 minutes ago. Using latest versions of the Fabric mod loader and API at the time of writing..."
neat smelt
ew
fiery tapir
it ain't too bad tho
void void
fabric >>>>> forge
twin lagoon
fabric is great
neat smelt
+1
fiery tapir
forge kinda killed itself by taking so long with 1.13 only to say that they now only support the vanilla launcher
neat smelt
but it seems like fabric dosnt like different versions
void void
can't wait for servers to update so that i can use fabric instead of forge coremodding
neat smelt
gotta go fast, went from 330 fps 750
waxen panther
twin lagoon
void void
what?
twin lagoon
but it seems like fabric dosnt like different versions
neat smelt
:pogWeirdChamp:
waxen panther
neat smelt
yeah sodium looks very very promising
but its in beta, so some stuff is still missing
ornate spindle
once the fabric rendering api is supported, I could see it becoming the new optifine tbh
fiery tapir
i wonder how it works on older gpus
waxen panther
but what about my rainbow cape 😠
ornate spindle
yeah my laptop from 2010 was able to get 60 fps with default mc settings
fiery tapir
inb4 sodium just allows anyone to make a cape out of any png
ornate spindle
void void
that ones still more unstable
neat smelt
i can test it on my n2820 intel nuc
waxen panther
what about Chlorine
steel pulsar
A general-purpose optimization mod for Minecraft 1.15+ which can reduce server tick rates by as much as 50%. Make your game lighter!
vernal moth
Just use the full trio
twin lagoon
yeah use all 3
steel pulsar
i dont know man
neat smelt
alright, going to test sodium with my shitty intel nuc which is even worse than yives athlon
mighty storm
Isn't there a java lib that lets you get all the instance variables
getter or something?
minor badge
it's called alt+insert in intellij
mighty storm
that did nothing
minor badge
select getters and make them
mighty storm
???
minor badge
alt+insert, generate getters, press ok
mighty storm
nothing happens when i do alt+insert
waxen panther
are you on macos?
mighty storm
yes
vernal moth
Isn't alt = cmd on Mac or smth?
mighty storm
my keyboard says alt
minor badge
macos dum
mighty storm
hey at least i can CTRL+C without it trying to copy
waxen panther
They use both but the proper name for it nowadays on macos is supposed to be option
steel pulsar
does paper play nicely with fabric / the jellysquid stuff
minor badge
paper does not work with fabric
steel pulsar
never thought about it
quasi valley
modding + bukkit = boom
void void
paper is server side, sodium and phospor are client side
vernal moth
this is all client side
neat smelt
paper can be clientside too
vernal moth
I mean, some of that work applies to the server too
void void
and might as well throw in lithium
vernal moth
and paper worked on porting patches before
spice finch
Anyone here using linux & AMD GPU? I can't boot without nomodeset though I have amdgpu drivers installed
steel pulsar
it's just that it's advertised as server software
spice finch
Maybe someone had the issue too? 
quasi valley
https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/pull/3937#issuecomment-660682207 jokes on them because I even said I can count to 1, just not any further than that
minor badge
works fine for me without that with an rx570
spice finch
RX 480 here
uh always having issues...
I'd try other distro but moving all the stuf... eh
neat smelt
starting minecraft is fun on this intel nuc
void void
setting up a vm for some possible malware, i think i'll make the username and password user and password obviously
minor badge
works fine for me lol
mighty storm
barely made it
quasi valley
just don't use any spaces 
steel pulsar
thank god you didnt put it on the next line or i wouldve had to arrest you
void void
wrong gif haha
spice finch
epic
tulip inlet
is that an amd gpu
spice finch
self-made one
tulip inlet
because iirc thats caused by an amd driver bug on windows
neat smelt
its an old intel hd
spice finch
neat smelt
from my celeron n2830
spice finch
@ Michael @ Nick
tulip inlet
on amd switching the opengl mode from 4.3 to 3.0 in sodiums advanced tab fixes that
fiery tapir
interesting heatsink
neat smelt
ikik
spice finch
makes no sense, cause it blows downside and hot air goes upwards
fiery tapir
heatblaster 9 billion
neat smelt
but that makes mostly no difference cdfn
cedar spade
but kitty
neat smelt
kitty great
finite wave
spice finch
but that makes mostly no difference cdfn
in PC case that has no top "air holes" it doesn't
void void
as
waxen panther
waxen panther
yes
neat smelt
2gb is totally fine
twin lagoon
royal tree
https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/200daae8683246acb9b8a78a60ca0453 what does this mean
steel pulsar
let's look at the absolute first line you could possibly read from this
twin lagoon
the plugin is disabled
steel pulsar
org.bukkit.command.CommandException: Cannot execute command 'se' in plugin ServerEssentials v${1.0.0a} - plugin is disabled.
twin lagoon
check the startup log
it probably failed loading
i also don't know what ServerEssentials is but it sounds like a scuffed Essentials clone
use EssentialsX
finite wave
Lol
finite wave
You too?
finite wave
Ew
steel pulsar
that can't be it
urban depot
Does anybody know if OVH is better than apex for a public 4GB server? I'm not extremely technical but I'm interested because I think I'd be able to do more with OVH.
or anything else?
with general plugins
I mean, I'm just looking for any advice at all.
finite wave
Apex is a minecraft only host right?
finite wave
Then ovh can probably provide better servers
They’ll provide what they say and not something halfassed
steel pulsar
apex is a reseller
urban depot
For minecraft or just additional?
steel pulsar
ovh is a server provider
it's ~always~ a better idea to buy directly from providers
finite wave
Ovh can do pretty much all og it
finite wave
Ovh allows you to access it however you want
urban depot
I mean apex is slightly faster than mcprohosting lol but I want full access
yeah
great
Are there any widely-used alternatives to ovh that are thought better in some ways?
Or is ovh the go-to
urban depot
I'm talking about 40/50 player server
olive marlin
And Hetzner - but it's only for EU, and their network hates America.
steel pulsar
i have players from the US on the hetzner server and their connection seems fine
steel pulsar
not saying it's wrong, just that i run hetzner servers and haven't seen it happen personally
olive marlin
We were using Hetzner, but some people had issues. We noticed packet drops - and when they used VPN, they could play better than without a VPN.
urban depot
Is that bad compared to OVH?
olive marlin
Hetzner is cheaper and is quite good IMO.
steel pulsar
OVH and hetzner are very similar, some prefer one over the other
urban depot
Is it worth ovh over hetzner generally?
steel pulsar
it depends on who you ask
olive marlin
You'll get better Hardware at Hetzner, but better Network and probably DDOS protection on OVH.
unreal quarry
since hetzner isnt anywhere near america.. i have to vote for ovh
urban depot
Ok, then I'd prefer ovh
You'll get better Hardware at Hetzner, but better Network and probably DDOS protection on OVH.
@olive marlin
steel pulsar
but ovh is based in france
unreal quarry
ovh has canadian and american datacenters
olive marlin
If you want to have a EU server - Hetzner is good enough.
void void
hetzner offered boxes in germany & finland iirc
mental meadow
Hetzner If eu, ovh anywhere else
urban depot
I live in the UK but like half my playerbase are american
Hetzner If eu, ovh anywhere else
and EU?
steel pulsar
what
olive marlin
We have most people from EU - and OVH works great.
urban depot
Great
spice finch
epic...
urban depot
5fps lol,
olive marlin
Less than 2 FPS?
twin lagoon
@waxen panther i have come here to bring good news
waxen panther
oh?
olive marlin
5/3 FPS.
twin lagoon
i updated the cat reeee emote
spice finch
yeah on windows i had more than 100
urban depot
oh jeez 
waxen panther
more ree?
spice finch
but its nomodeset fault, pretty sure
steel pulsar
ovh seems to have some sort of limited edition thing right now which might be good
ends in 2 days
they seem cheaper than their other servers
urban depot
Would you recommed VPS with ovh or dedicated?
twin lagoon
dedicated
steel pulsar
you said something about full control and vps isn't full control
urban depot
mental meadow
If you want ovh and don't need the newest hardware check out soyoustart - they have the older ovh stuff and are cheaper
urban depot
Hm ok
olive marlin
Dedi is better, but more expensive. Depending on how many players you have - might be better starting with a VPS/ dedi from SYS.
minor badge
i'd recommend you give michael a big smooch 😳
twin lagoon
@minor badge 
mental meadow
I have a dedi with sys and I'm pretty happy
They even offer arch out of the box
urban depot
I currently have a playerbase of 30 with around 10 active players but we're planning on changing loads of stuff and lifting the whitelist
I don't like apex
Slow control panel
mental meadow
There is a lot you need to learn when switching from an hosting provider to a dedi tbh, I hope you know that
urban depot
Yeah
steel pulsar
if you think bandwidth has anything to do with connection stability then you're not ready to host a server
mental meadow
500Mbps is more then enough lol
urban depot
I need the right choice
ok
ok ok haha
Sys-LE-1 for 40-50 players with at least 20 plugins?
it has good storage
steel pulsar
8TB is very overkill for a minecraft server
steel pulsar
it says right there 32GB DDR3 ECC 1,600MHz
mental meadow
It's not ssd
olive marlin
Get one with SSD. Don't get HDD.
urban depot
so 32gb ram mc server??
mental meadow
No the complete server has 32 GB ram
waxen panther
32tb orf ram
mental meadow
Nebula you shouldn't host a dedicated server if you don't know the basics, that's dangerous. Stick to guided hosting
urban depot
I'll teach myself over some time now
olive marlin
You don't need 32GB.
olive marlin
I'd probably take GAME-1 tbh. Should be a decent start.
steel pulsar
or just say fuck it and jump right in pay 40 dollars a month do a fuckin crash course
void void
not a great way to spend money lul
steel pulsar
up to you, you'll spend a lot of hours troubleshooting though
but troubleshooting is learning
urban depot
What OS would you recommend.. centos?
olive marlin
If you want to start - I'd just rent a cloud VPS (get a cheap one from HEtzner - you can rent it for a few hours) and try to setup a server on it.
urban depot
or ubuntu
twin lagoon
debian
olive marlin
Not a production server - but for you to see what you need to do to have it run succesfully.
Then get a Dedi.
steel pulsar
look up the differences between the linux distros, figure out what everything means and make an informed decision
urban depot
I saw somewhere that debian and centos are good for those who want more access
waxen panther
unreal quarry
all linux distros are the same. the difference is the package manager and how things are setup by default
steel pulsar
yea jump in and do arch as your first server
mental meadow
Yeah 😂
olive marlin
@urban depot https://www.hetzner.com/cloud
Grab a CX21 , it's super cheap. And you don't need to leave it running for the whole month. And try to setup a test server on it.
Once you know what you are doing - you won't need to ask questions, and can make an informed decision yourself.
olive marlin
If you leave it running for whole weekend while you work on stuff - it'll cost you like 0.3 USD or something like that.
olive marlin
That's why I use Hetzner for throw-away temporary VPSes lol
olive marlin
Though, if you have a PC with enough resources to spare - can also create a VM on your pc.
Debian is a good start.
urban depot
10gb ok
olive marlin
You should get 40GB on that.
olive marlin
Are you adding a second volume?
urban depot
It just says create volume
olive marlin
Don't.
steel pulsar
uhhh
olive marlin
You don't need it.
olive marlin
Just add your SSH key 🙂
steel pulsar
oh that's the cloud interface i've never seen it
urban depot
where do i find my key
olive marlin
I had to log in to see what Nebula is talking about - haven't used it in months, since I have my scripts that automate setup/teardown for testing lol
.g macos generate ssh key
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://docs.joyent.com/manually-generating-your-ssh-key-in-mac-os-x -- Manually generating your SSH key in macOS: "Sep 26, 2019 ... Generating an SSH key. An SSH key consists of a pair of files. One is the private key, which should never be shared with anyone. The..."
steel pulsar
ssh-keygen -t ed25519
grim kiln
Hello, I'm wondering, I want to make the diamonds on top of the npc rotate like a hypixel, and can you help me? how to setup particles
steel pulsar
you should do whatever you feel is appropriate based on your level of knowledge and if you feel your knowledge is insufficient, you should find more information regarding the subject
olive marlin
Nebula a few tips:
Use tldr pages/bro pages/ cheat / egg to get a grasp on what a command does - i.e. tldr ssh-keygen (all of those are CLI programs you need to install - choose one)
Use man pages to read about all the options - man ssh-keygen
urban depot
so what do you mean by sh-keygen -t ed25519
steel pulsar
find out
your first instinct when you see shit you don't understand should be to find out through manual pages and documentation
urban depot
yeah, i just don't know where
olive marlin
man ssh-keygen
urban depot
i'll have a lookk at that ty
olive marlin
You need to learn to search stuff - it'll become very useful when you'll be doing anything, really.
steel pulsar
stackoverflow posts are the LAST resort
olive marlin
@grim kiln My guess it's armor stands, not particles. Though not 100% sure. Probably a custom plugin.
urban depot
I'll start tomorrow. I'm drained
Thank you all so much for the help, it looks like a good start.
😄
olive marlin
Good luck learning Linux mess!
void void
[20:35:39] [main/INFO]: Sodium has been successfully discovered and initialized -- your game is now faster!
sanic
spice finch
what a fancy nickname, @void void
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@void void check the rules, 2nd to last iirc, your nick aint allowed
neat smelt
make a feature request over at sodium, got a the office "no" meme back xD
i think the love me
void void
my nick is just upside down whats up with that
it's impersonating someone else
and hard to read
serene bolt
my nick is just upside down whats up with that
still breaks the rules, try again
tired heath
At the moment I'm updating to 1.16 and is actually a pain in the ass to compare all plugins configs and database shemes on changes, I wonder how you guys/girls handle that?
twin lagoon
how i handle 1.15 to 1.16?
just replacing the jars
see if the server boots
move to production after testing
if you keep your shit up to date & don't have too many plugins
there's no major config changes for 90% of the plugins
tired heath
na updating plugins in general, when they to config option changes or databse changes often without nice migration
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@fallen oracle dumbass is tryna argue his hard to read name is ok, mind chipping in?
tired heath
I end up check it with a compare tool but it takes so much time
spice finch
move to production after testing
but where he'd test that if not on production?
serene bolt
oh so you're one of those people
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doesnt matter
serene bolt
a rule skirter
uncut moss
mfw stall engine in 3rd gear
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youre the kinda guy to get banned, paper mods dont like rule skirters much lol
tired heath
I m not even sure what it a rule squirter is
serene bolt
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perhaps because mods dont spend their entire time on here lol
vagrant niche
Or we got rid of the only one that do
void void
im pretty sure mods saw me changing it
void void
a
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@serene bolt lets watch 😳
spice finch
are you going to discuss about some dumb nickname and waste others time? 
serene bolt
O_O
void void
i was not the one that brang it up
tired heath
I thnik I'm going to get a coffee
Actually I just saw that i was using PureminOrez fork of Worldborder
Still I can not remember when I did that
waxen panther
I want a give away @tired heath
tired heath
give away has been served
uncut moss
not ideal
mighty storm
So say you have a game, then you have types of that game, then you have versions for those types
hollow plaza
I looked back at the certbot page and it said that it could've made a systemd timer instead of a cron job and I checked and that is what happened
tired heath
mmm what about normal inheritance
uncut moss
yes
mighty storm
well if youre talking extends/implements, they all have their own data
tired heath
You mean sub has diffrent data than parent in it's attributes, but attributes are the same?
mighty storm
Well take this sample JSONObject
{
"game": {
"data": {
"key": "value"
}
"types": {
"bruh1": {
"moment": true
}
"versions": [
{
"wow": true,
}
]
}
}
}```
Game, has data, has types, types have data and versions, and the versions have dataWhy is versions different then bruh1
uncut moss
do you really need different keys everywhere
mighty storm
not my api
tired heath
Am I don't see any problem using normal extends, just define all stuff parent has in parent, extend it to sub, if sub has diffrent values in the attribute, set it in its constructor
mental meadow
Bad chew
tired heath
but yeah
mighty storm
when would a sub-class be warrented?
uncut moss
yeah this sucks
mighty storm
See I don't get why people do
{
"key": value as json object
...
}```
instead of
```json
[
"key1": json object
...
]```if the keys can be whatever it's hard to use inheritance
and if the data is different everywhere
mighty storm
Bad chew
@mental meadow what did i do 😢
tired heath
May I don't get the point what chew wants
mighty storm
honestly im just tryin my best here
uncut moss
i don't really either
mental meadow
Don't get eaten by a lion
mighty storm
honestly, id be fine with it
mental meadow
Same
But others might not be fine with it >:c
mighty storm
uncut moss
the moon is fake
mighty storm
you guys believe in the moon?
turbid moat
hollow plaza
moon truthers
mighty storm
1 in 5 people dont believe in the moon
uncut moss
i don't believe in the sun
mighty storm
and theyre goddamn right
tired heath
Wanna buy some ground on the second moon of the earth, just one bitcoin now (hot sale sale sale)
uncut moss
earth is fake too
tired heath
yeah we have a scecond moon (no fake)
mighty storm
wait, that's illegal
uncut moss
designing an api that doesn't suck ass is kinda hard lol
lament kettle
designing anything that doesnt suck ass is kinda hard
tired heath
Well I think you all are kinda stressed out, wanna hear some positive vibes?
lament kettle
yes
mighty storm
i aint stressed
tired heath
Positive vibes for you: There is a black hole in the middle of our galaxy, but a moderate one.
fiery tapir
on the list of things that don't inspire confidence, i believe this is #1: https://i.imgur.com/dxxpFA7.png
tired heath
better?
finite wave
Looks a little corrupted if i must say.
uncut moss
laugh pls
mighty storm
tired heath
^^
lament kettle
laughs
uncut moss
that's the spirit
fiery tapir
it's vomiting out those errors in spades, tf happened?
mighty storm
that one 12280 header
lament kettle
projectile vomiting errors is not nice
mighty storm
why do folders on jenkins get 2 descriptions
fiery tapir
yeah there is a LOT of red text
dunno what the fuck is happening but i must say, i'm concerned
uncut moss
brb making clearchat plugin
lament kettle
brb making my life better
fiery tapir
every time dynmap makes a new render it spits out like, fourty of those errors at least
lament kettle
damn nice
uncut moss
how many possible combinations of characters are there in a word with 16 chars max
tired heath
depends on the charset and size of it
uncut moss
english alphabet + 0-9
tired heath
how many char types per char
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36^16
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36*37^15 if you want the possibility of words being any length
untold copper
hmm
mighty storm
dont yall know ? its sunday, doing work is forbidden
untold copper
can someone help me a bit with bungeecird?
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tired heath
sorry I don't do religion
lament kettle
sorry i dont do happiness
tired heath
haha
untold copper
;-;
lament kettle
@untold copper are you a sniper
mighty storm
idk man a religion where you're literally told to not do anything on sundays sounds kinda dope
tired heath
I still wait on a task to complete, so name your bungee question
lament kettle
idk man a religion where you're literally told to not do anything on sundays sounds kinda dope
@mighty storm meh
mighty storm
idk why you quoted that whole message it was literally the message after
uncut moss
religion bad
lament kettle
do not criticise my quoting decisions
do not criticise my quoting decisions
@lament kettle i like quotes
spice finch
Uh oh religion topic
lament kettle
uh oh stinky
jolly crown
mental meadow
Not again
untold copper
xD
jolly crown
I feel like this image relates to this conversation very well
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hi aurora
lament kettle
sin bad
mental meadow
Hey
lament kettle
pray good
jolly crown
🙏
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how are u madame
mental meadow
Pray to our Lord and savior Hatsune Miku
tired heath
who
mental meadow
I have a new hair color
lament kettle
pray siddartha jahwe jesus-chan
mental meadow
Now my pfp doesn't fit anymore
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looks very epic
mental meadow
:3
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mines just as chestnutty as always im afraid
waxen panther
mental meadow
I want the world pinkest pink as a hair color
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@waxen panther dumb
mental meadow
That would look fun
lament kettle
pink
waxen panther
mental meadow
stopid
lament kettle
toaster gaming gang arise!
uncut moss
yellow hair
mental meadow
It's actually a bit yellow now
I wanted to dye it after bleaching but I think I'll leave it for a while
mighty storm
yall ever watch a video and the entire browser crashes
waxen panther
no
tired heath
no
mighty storm
then why does it happen to me
mighty storm
considering i hate myself, the former
mighty storm
rory is asleep
tired heath
Wtf 92 listen to my song on sound cloud lol
mental meadow
Graphics cards are still super pretty like I could look at those all day with their nice heatsinks and tubes and stuff
uncut moss
mine looks good
mighty storm
idk what mine looks like because its INSIDE my computer
uncut moss
or no it looks shit compared to the prev version
mighty storm
idk how yall can see it
mental meadow
I clean it like every other month
mighty storm
exactly
void void
i don't have to clean it because passive cooling 😎
uncut moss
because it looks nice
void void
mo airflow mo dust
mental meadow
No airflow just let's dust settle faster 👀
mighty storm
does it?
void void
not in practise
mighty storm
just take a wooden axe, select the opposite corners of your computer, and type //replace dust air
not hard
void void
haha
uncut moss
without the comma though
serene bolt
I have 6 fans in my case all cranked up to max, headphones on and i don't hear anything
uncut moss
always at max?
serene bolt
yup
mental meadow
I used to keep them always at max but gf complained about the noise
uncut moss
tbf all my fans on max isn't that loud even without headphones on
ashen cliff
Now that try with some Delta fans or better yet a gaming laptop. 
mighty storm
you guys have fans?
uncut moss
noctua ftw
serene bolt
good fans really are not that loud even on max speed
uncut moss
i have i think 4 noctua fans and then 1 shitty that came with the case
the shitty one makes 75% of the noise
fiery tapir
what does a log message like [15:52:19 WARN]: Chunk [3, -162] is allocated, but stream is missing mean?
mental meadow
I have 2 shitty and 2 nice ones
fiery tapir
other than that some chunks are fucked
mental meadow
uncut moss
i want noctua colored cables
mental meadow
I want a lot of things that I don't get