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twin lagoon
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as Nginx alternative

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i'm just gonna use whatever is easiest/lightest

twin lagoon
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that's probably caddy then

potent fossil
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i tried caddy and...

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um :/

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nty

twin lagoon
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simple u suck

potent fossil
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idk i just

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idk

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i dont like its config

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plz

twin lagoon
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u suck

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caddy is big

twin lagoon
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chances are im just gonna go for a simple rocket + static GET route

potent fossil
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wait wtf did traefik rebrand?

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they used to be like a little gopher with sticks

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now they're "a cloud native edge router"

twin lagoon
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the gopher is still a thing

potent fossil
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there's that little fucker

lavish oasis
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.optimize

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fiery tapir
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sometimes i forget for a second why you people talk about reverse proxies and web admin stuff

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it's because y'all run actual server networks with websites and shit lol

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yeah ill go for caddy

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i just reverse proxy shit for my personal use

twin lagoon
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caddy is epic

potent fossil
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traefik looks cool but how does it 'auto detect' services? like, what if it just decides on a url you don't like

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can you override

twin lagoon
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it's configurable

potent fossil
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ok

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u specify it in docker or smth, simple

twin lagoon
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it can be overriden with a label on your docker container

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same applies to k8s and whatever else u use

twin lagoon
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i have it set to use my container names

potent fossil
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also, does it just detect every container and auto update?

twin lagoon
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yes

potent fossil
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hmm interesting

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ok

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also caddy used to have this stupid twisted paper page that made it a pain in the ass to look at so i hated it

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but now its website looks proper

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so let me see

twin lagoon
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2.0 released

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so

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im just gonna use caddy in a container to run caddy file-server for the simple ass homepage

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then reverseproxy that

potent fossil
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oh jesus no, the twisted paper is still there. but at least it's mostly a proper website now

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oh i see what u mean lol

potent fossil
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it used to be left aligned and looked like a stack of paper with the text at a 75 degree incline

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it was great UI

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the best

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lmao

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services:
    caddy:
        image: caddy:2-alpine
        container_name: caddy
        volumes:
            - /srv/docker/homepage/minimal:/usr/share/caddy
        restart: unless-stopped
        networks:
            - composed```
is this really everything i need to do?
twin lagoon
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probably

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what the fuck

twin lagoon
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you'd probably want to disable caddy's auto https

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and handle it through traefik

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thats not enabled by default afaik

twin lagoon
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it is

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its not enabled if no hostname is provided apparently

twin lagoon
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o

uncut moss
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wsl2 is neat

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im just gonna do it properly to be sure

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well, "properly"; not specify domain and explicitly do file-server for only port 80 to be used

hushed smelt
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does anyone know of a good coinflip plugin wihtout a gui for 1.15 + ?

potent fossil
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So basically a dual state random generator?

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Lmao

cosmic raft
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does not like caddy

woven otter
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I know that there are people who would make such thing for a fee

uncut moss
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random.nextBoolean()

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ur welcome

cosmic raft
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after that shit happened

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i lost all interest in caddy

uncut moss
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caddy

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is this golf

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caddy was the easiest one for serving static html in a container

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i cant figure out how to specify all containers to use a wildcard cert so im just gonna drop that lol

uncut moss
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patch is a utility often found in the package patch

void void
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patch

uncut moss
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oh ok

finite wave
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Whqt

sleek tree
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Yo quick question "IllegalStackRemover" Does it prevent TNT dupe and break bedrock by defualt? Or can it. Cause I don't want it to do that.

worn ember
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Ivan is such a pepega

finite wave
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Idk scot

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Paper disables it by default though

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yes scot

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.tntdupe - this too

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worn ember
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yes

quasi valley
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bedrock breaking is supposed to be a feature according to slicedlime šŸ‘€

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so they only fixed actually obtaining it

worn ember
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ask him if 3TPS is also a feature

finite wave
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Yes

vernal moth
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My mom: the meal was rather fatty, right?

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  • gets out the raki *
worn ember
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wtf not working on hangar?

vernal moth
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I will when I come back ^^

finite wave
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What is a raki

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Which type of alcohol

spice finch
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pretty sure alcohol

worn ember
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theres only one type of alcohol jan

finite wave
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No that’s a lie

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There is mutilple alcohols, and the one we consume is ethanol

vernal moth
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Raki is like uzo, but from turkey

finite wave
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But i’m asking if it’s beer or whatever

spice finch
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what is uzo

finite wave
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Ah brƦndevin

vernal moth
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.g raki

limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rakı -- Rakı - Wikipedia: "Raki or rakı is a sweetened, often anise-flavoured, alcoholic drink that is popular in Albania, Turkic countries, Turkey, the Greek Islands and in..."

finite wave
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BrƦndevin is kek

uncut moss
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brƤnnvin

worn ember
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looks like vodka lmao

vernal moth
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You serve it with ice and then it is kinda milkey, not clear

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It's 50%o alcohol iirc

worn ember
vernal moth
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It's an aperitif

worn ember
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sure

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for the rest of the day šŸ˜‰

finite wave
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It’s not vodka

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Vodka is different

worn ember
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i just said it looked like it smh

vernal moth
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Vodka is potato

finite wave
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Yeah

worn ember
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potato vodka

finite wave
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BrƦndevin is not something i’ve had inna while

worn ember
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i'd try that

vernal moth
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Arak is also really nice

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.g arak

limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arak_(drink) -- Arak (drink) - Wikipedia: "Arak or araq (Arabic: ļ»‹ļŗ®ļ»•ā€Ž) is a Levantine unsweetened distilled spirit in the anise drinks family. It is a translucent white anise-flavored drink...."

Arak or araq (Arabic: ļ»‹ļŗ®ļ»•ā€Ž) is a Levantine unsweetened distilled spirit (ā‰ˆ40–63% alc/vol or ā‰ˆ80–126 proof) in the anise drinks family. It is a translucent white anise-flavored drink.

worn ember
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ah yes a glass of coome

vernal moth
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It's similar, it's the Arabic version

finite wave
vernal moth
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But with more alcohol iirc

void void
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eww that code

vernal moth
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Ivan also copied origami

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And changed the author of all patches

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Then ppl complained

finite wave
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Yeah i heard and he changed the.. ^^

vernal moth
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Then he added a credit to x in the patch subject

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He's a dum ass

finite wave
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Very much so

vernal moth
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I mean, he's also 15

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Sooooo

worn ember
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ivan is literally a retard, he thinks hes a god programmer but honestly he just big yikes

quasi valley
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has been forever

vernal moth
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His bungee fork tho

void void
twin lagoon
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that's not ivan is it

worn ember
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lol

uncut moss
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who's ivan

worn ember
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better if you dont know tbh

uncut moss
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mrivanplays

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lol

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it's the only ivan i've seen on spigot that also seems retarded

worn ember
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yeah him

finite wave
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Oh, how to git

unique snow
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Where can I buy his plugins though?

worn ember
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delete and readd KEKW

unique snow
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šŸ˜‰

worn ember
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probably mcmarket KEKW

unique snow
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Personal Paper fork that implements more performance improvements, more to suit the Bulgarian non-toxic community.

twin lagoon
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bulgarian

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non-toxic

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my kontri do not has money 4 gam

finite wave
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Is that ivan?

twin lagoon
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pls offline mode

unique snow
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Yes

finite wave
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Wtf

unique snow
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I'm going to burst an eye laughing so hard

void void
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wtf

unique snow
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This is on his paper fork lmao

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Why no API additions API's are tough to design. In public projects such as Bukkit, Spigot, Sponge etc, once an API is commited. It's almost forever. You can't go breaking it without solid justification. This is the politics game.

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With that in mind, much thought has to be given to the API in now and future use cases and applications to ensure it can be extended without breaking.

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This is a lot of politics that we don't have time in our lives to deal with.

twin lagoon
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(Copied from starlis/empirecraft)

uncut moss
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yeah

unique snow
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Sorry this is just hilarious.

twin lagoon
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that text has been copied from aikar

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i don't think that's hilarious tbh

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seems fine to me

finite wave
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Well it’s hilarious when it comes from ivan

cosmic raft
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dies

finite wave
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Wait did i just die then?

unique snow
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Uh, he licensed it as MIT, not sure you can really do that..

twin lagoon
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individual patches can

unique snow
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Paper is GPL isn't it?

finite wave
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Doggo

twin lagoon
unique snow
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Yeah okay, makes sense

cosmic raft
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lol

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YouTube app broke again

golden gust
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Chernobyl was dope, I sorta love the science and disaster type stuff, one of the first TV shows I remember was stuff like seconds from disaster and such

worn ember
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ah yes

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classic

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Chernobyl was good, but i always felt like they portrayed the russians as retards, idk if they actually were but yeah

golden gust
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Not sure what you mean

worn ember
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just their reaction to things

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i dont remember what it was exactly but there was something they did that was even too stupid for russians to do

void void
golden gust
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isn't it such an amazing ecosystem

hushed smelt
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hey does anyone know of a good player vault plugin for 1.15+ ?

uncut moss
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lol isOdd

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wouldn't that just be x % 2 !== 0

olive marlin
uncut moss
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i mean both work

quasi valley
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"simplify"

azure flower
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Here we see the wonders of weak typing

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which means half the code there is making sure you're actually passing a integer

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If only there was some way to ensure that was the case without runtime checks

golden gust
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I mean, only /real/ way to pull that off would be to just say "fuck it,lets redo the language"

steel pulsar
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programming revolution

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destroy the establishment... rebuild java

quasi valley
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just take java and give it some of the kotlin cherries

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without actually shipping a horribly large extra lib and nokotlin kappa

azure flower
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php pulled it off, but I guess php doesn't have to deal with browsers taking 47 years to implement the changes

hushed smelt
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hey does anyone know of a good player vault plugin for 1.15+ ?

olive marlin
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Just hope that a decent WebAssembly support will be in major browsers and that people will start using it.

urban depot
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Is there a faster alternative to Dynmap?

quick pasture
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BlueMap seems promising

steel pulsar
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dynmap is pretty fast

olive marlin
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Dynmap is quite fast - unles you are doing ulta high res.

urban depot
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I've seen Mapcrafter but it seems too complicated

quick pasture
olive marlin
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.dynmap, I guess.

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.dynmap ffs

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steel pulsar
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i haven't noticed any performance hikes from dynmap

urban depot
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Does bluemap include labels?

steel pulsar
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i thought the rendering part was the thing you were talking about

quick pasture
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Really depends on the configured triggers for map renders

urban depot
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I mean dynmap has a huge effect on general performance, right?

quick pasture
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For dynmap ^

olive marlin
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Dynmap is working well.

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Unless you make it rerender on each chunk load.

twin lagoon
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i found bluemap some months ago aswell

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looked super neat

quick pasture
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Hi michael

urban depot
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I'll have a look at bluemap now

twin lagoon
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hi frank

urban depot
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It's apparently missing some blocks/tiles

olive marlin
steel pulsar
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default dynmap triggers are fine tbh

twin lagoon
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i wouldn't use it in production

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overviewer isn't 3d

steel pulsar
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version 1.2

twin lagoon
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bluemap is unique because it's 3d

urban depot
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I don't want dynmap to affect tps at all

steel pulsar
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how is dynmap affecting your tps

twin lagoon
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barty ^

steel pulsar
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oh shit vectors

urban depot
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It did when I tested it on 2GB ram servers

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I'm on 4gb now

olive marlin
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I believe dynmaps turns off rendering once you drop below 19TPS or something.

steel pulsar
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if anything, bluemap would have a bigger tps impact

twin lagoon
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bluemap has 0 impact

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because it renders externally

urban depot
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ooh

steel pulsar
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oh god oh fuck

urban depot
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oh my gosh bluemap looks great

twin lagoon
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actually

fiery tapir
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oh wow bluemap looks fucking cool

twin lagoon
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it can be dynamic

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" The plugin then renders and actively updates your map when something changes. "

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i wouldn't use bluemap yet though

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still missing stuff

steel pulsar
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how hard is it to set up with a reverse proxy

twin lagoon
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very neat project though

urban depot
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ok

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So dynmap then?

twin lagoon
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yes

quick pasture
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They also want to do entities n stuff

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Their roadmap is promising

fiery tapir
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looking forward to seeing bluemap improve, that looks cool as hell

urban depot
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same

quick pasture
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Less than dynmap actually

urban depot
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So are you certain that there isn't another 'external rendering' one other than bluemap

fiery tapir
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framerate on their demo is kinda wacky lol

twin lagoon
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that's your shit pc

quick pasture
fiery tapir
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firefox is using maybe 10% cpu

steel pulsar
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yeah seeing the planned features thing it's still missing a lot of stuff

urban depot
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What's your view on Mapcrafter?

twin lagoon
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mapcrafter is dead lol

steel pulsar
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Aug. 29, 2016, 12:04 p.m.

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good luck

urban depot
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yeah but i know a server thats 1.16 that uses it

fiery tapir
urban depot
fiery tapir
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nobody is safe from ram hell

steel pulsar
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ping me when bluemap is stable and good in 2 years

twin lagoon
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.remind

limber knotBOT
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[-d] [-w <who>] <when> <message...>

steel pulsar
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lacks the human touch

urban depot
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how's dynmap 3.1-beta-1?

fiery tapir
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it's dynmap

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works as you expect

urban depot
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alright

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is it safe to enable with plugman or is a restart better

fiery tapir
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never used plugman, i'd throw it in the folder, restart, then fiddle with the settings and restart again

twin lagoon
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uh

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don't use plugman on dynmap

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shit breaks easily

urban depot
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ok

olive marlin
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Don't use plugman apart from testing on test server.

urban depot
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good to know

twin lagoon
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also don't use plugman in general, use ServerUtils

urban depot
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ooh

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ill find it

steel pulsar
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whats the point of this

waxen panther
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michael

steel pulsar
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avoiding restarts?

waxen panther
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sma

twin lagoon
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yes

fiery tapir
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hey out of curiosity can i use -Dpaper.playerconnection.keepalive=120 or something like that to make players get kicked faster when they lag out?

urban depot
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Why is serverutils better exactly?

waxen panther
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plugman bad

twin lagoon
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it's opensource

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does more than plugman

fiery tapir
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and why do you wanna avoid restarts?

steel pulsar
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restarts scary

twin lagoon
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i don't want to restart a server with 200 players on

fiery tapir
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^

twin lagoon
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when i need to hotfix something

urban depot
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I don't see any new commands

waxen panther
twin lagoon
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it can reload bukkit / spigot / paper configs @urban depot

urban depot
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Oh , does plugman not do that?\

fiery tapir
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i figured it actually matters when you have a lot of players online lol

urban depot
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Also, does that mean I can use it on dynmap?

waxen panther
twin lagoon
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probably not

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hell even the built-in /dynmap reload

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barely works

golden gust
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to make players get kicked faster when they log out

waxen panther
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only use plugman / serverutils for disabling plugins tbh

golden gust
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increases the limit for a keepalive response

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Errr....

twin lagoon
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eh it's pretty useful for when you need to reload a plugin, remove or add a plugin

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obviously you want minimal usage of it in production

waxen panther
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too many plugins break when you do it and then people will just complain about it

twin lagoon
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nor do you want to load in a large plugin

fiery tapir
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nah that's not what i'd be using, i just saw somebody else mention it

urban depot
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But can i use it just to load dynmap

waxen panther
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for testing its fine

twin lagoon
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no nebula

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restart with dynmap

urban depot
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Also, is plugman ok to load serverutils with

golden gust
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Basically, just leave it alone; realistically it won't matter, the network deals with it in general, all you'd be doing is making life harder for legit players on bad connections

urban depot
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then i can delete plugman

twin lagoon
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you're going to have to restart for dynmap anyways

waxen panther
twin lagoon
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what's the point

steel pulsar
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man just restart your server

urban depot
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i have a player online rn

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:l

waxen panther
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'a player'

urban depot
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it's whitelisted lol

golden gust
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Nobody here is going to recommend plugman

fiery tapir
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i mean i don't run a big server at all, just me and some friends with a whitelist

steel pulsar
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tell your one player that you're going to restart for maintenance

urban depot
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yeah i try to restart as rarely a spossible

waxen panther
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it takes like 2 minutes to restart lol, I'm sure he can go get a drink or something

urban depot
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it crashed this mornin

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i was doing things with plotsquared

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something corrupted

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Alright

unreal quarry
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Just be like "yo, gonna reboot real quick." And all will be fine

twin lagoon
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if you have a low amount of players

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who cares

urban depot
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ait

unreal quarry
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Or, just reboot and when it's back up be like "oops, wrong button"

urban depot
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people have to apply for the whitelist

mental meadow
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Unloading and loading a plugin while the server is running sounds fun

golden gust
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players would rather you reboot than stall them out tryna do stupid shit and then have to reboot again when shit goes sideways

waxen panther
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just restart it and say it crashed again WeirdChamp

urban depot
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i'll restart i just need to delete plugmaj ar

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man*

waxen panther
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ar

urban depot
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jar*

steel pulsar
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delete dogshit.jar, install lessdogshit.jar plus dynmap.jar, restart

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very simple

urban depot
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i have too many junk server config folders that arent used

fiery tapir
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configs tho

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clean it then

urban depot
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I will eventually

golden gust
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don't get me wrong, I've had plugman on my dev server, (which just so happened to be my production server), the art of making my shit safe to reload was fun, and practiaclly 0 pl0gen devs care to do that, however, I don't think I've seen a plugin that even handles vault properly

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(I mean, not that vault is doing the world a favour by throwing out a bad example, but, still...)

urban depot
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Ok i'll use this time to fix things so that i don't need yet another restart

steel pulsar
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wow smart

urban depot
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also, vanishnopacket doesn't hide from player count but hides from player list

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weird

waxen panther
urban depot
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i wont use it anymore

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i have supervanish but it doesnt hide from the enjin list

steel pulsar
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isnt that also incredibly outdated

urban depot
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erm

fiery tapir
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enjin?

urban depot
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oh is it

steel pulsar
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'vanishnopacket'

urban depot
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enjin is good for me

fiery tapir
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can't quite remember what red's pfp is, it's some funny philosophy man with catgirl ears

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right yeah max stirner

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i know absolutely nothing about him other than that illustration and the name

void void
steel pulsar
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what

urban depot
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^

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So should I use supervanish or vanishnopacket

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I feel like supervanish

fiery tapir
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personally i'd go with stone bricks with some slabs + stairs mixed in alongside some polished andesite here and there

urban depot
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vanishnopacket is compatible with enjin supervanish isn't

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so when i use supervanish i display online on the website

golden gust
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enjin is trash

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only reason it's so popular is because it's basically the only real viable platform for it

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shits got more bugs than vanilla

steel pulsar
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isnt enjin a site host

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like wordpress

urban depot
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yeah

golden gust
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Yea, they basically offer a hosted CMS

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It'd amaze you the variaty of bugs and oddball instability issues they have

urban depot
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I like it because it's easy to use and users can register/login easily

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I haven't found many bugs at all

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You might mean their default themes

golden gust
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maybe they've improved, last I used it it was just janky af

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Like, it's nice when it works; But, far from free from headaches

urban depot
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Would it be ok if I asked what anyone thinks of my enjin site for my server?

twin lagoon
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it's still scuffed af

urban depot
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anyone have views on venturechat?

twin lagoon
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aids

urban depot
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I'm using it and it feels alright

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why?

golden gust
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General gist is that chat plugins are shit

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Part of that is heavily down to bukkits chat API being trash

potent fossil
urban depot
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so you're disapproving of server ranks in general?

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by saying that

twin lagoon
golden gust
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wat?

twin lagoon
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venturechat's source code is fucking disgusting

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they had an SQL injection a few months ago

fiery tapir
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the way y'all come after every plugin that gets mentioned makes me wonder if i'm using something suboptimal lol

twin lagoon
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switched back to deluxechat after that

worn ember
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why are you on omegle

fiery tapir
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nah we aren't dunking on ranks, just on the plugins themselves

urban depot
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chat plugins offer ranks

potent fossil
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It was a mistake, clearly.

golden gust
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The issue is that there are no good public chat plugins

steel pulsar
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no chat plugins is the ticket

twin lagoon
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vic is working on a good public chat plugin

golden gust
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  1. In order to use components, you need to literally hack around bukkits chat API, which is trash and causes issues
twin lagoon
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i have some hope for that

golden gust
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  1. Most chat plugins I've seen have stupid bugs in stupid places, but, like, at least they have 200 useless features you don't care about
urban depot
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what makes a good chat plugin then?

golden gust
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I mean, part of the hell is that to me, a good chat plugin is impossible with bukkit without being too gross

fiery tapir
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i do need to do some updating admittedly

twin lagoon
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besides your panel

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no

fiery tapir
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yeah panel's gone the second ftp finishes

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cgbuildbox
whats this

fiery tapir
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it's broken in 1.16 but it's a plugin that ideally would let you build with materials in shulker boxes

steel pulsar
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imagine if we could finally break free from dumb spigot shit ontop of old bukkit shit

fiery tapir
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enable it, place block from inventory, gets immediately replaced and takes one from a shulker

golden gust
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part of the horror is the asine backwards compat

fiery tapir
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however it doesn't quite work in 1.16 in my experience

golden gust
#

We will literally never get a good chat API

minor badge
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with a hardfork, certain things like chat api could warrant a proper makeover breaking compat

kindred storm
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plugins which cancel the chat event to implement their own handling šŸ‘€

fiery tapir
#

backwards compatibility is the source of a lot of awful programming jank lol

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WOW64 go brrrrr

golden gust
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Horror of fixing the chat API is that we'd literally need to break every chat plugin

kindred storm
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just use AuthorNagException for those backward plugins

fiery tapir
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how do we run 32-bit programs on 64-bit windows? keep an entire second install of windows around, of course!

steel pulsar
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who cares

golden gust
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You need the 32 bit libs for linking

steel pulsar
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the most necessary changes are also the hardest ones to make

minor badge
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breaking isnt necessarily bad tho

steel pulsar
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quote by.. steve job

fiery tapir
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some things need to be broken

golden gust
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No, it's just the horror of planning shit like that out

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e.g. you'd need to actually speak to plugin devs and such

quasi valley
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disgusting

steel pulsar
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just make your own rudimentary chat plugin and look at what's missing / shitty

golden gust
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Fixing the chat API is actually kinda easy

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The biggest issue with it is the entire fact that components are gone

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There are ofc some integration headaches, but the biggest issue with chat is the lack of component support

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the moment a chat plugin wants to use anything like hover text, etc; It literally needs to become a hack job to deal with it

quasi valley
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the thought of keeping the same api is just an inherently flawed concept given that they literally have to reflect unpredictable minecraft internals imo. so this will always get at the cost of not being able to actually implement feature additions at some point (as we've been experiencing a lot with bukkit)

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  • md's chat api just sucks eitherway
fiery tapir
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yeah vanilla just doing whatever the fuck they want is probably the biggest problem with minecraft lol

quasi valley
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they're improving formats

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but since api tries to be backwards compatible, you end up with still having the half-assed awful format that you had before

unreal quarry
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The problem with bukkit is the lengths taken to keep compatibility with old versions

steel pulsar
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does bukkit just have one development line as opposed to separating them by patch

urban depot
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There probably isn't a good answer out there but are there any better methods of advertising a server other than basic minecraft server lists..

olive marlin
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Reddit?

urban depot
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r/mcservers has so many and hardly any upvotes for each one

unreal quarry
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Reddit is good, but it pulls a lot of trash players

urban depot
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I don't want trash players

unreal quarry
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No one does

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But that's part of the process

urban depot
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anything as well as reddit or just that?

latent valve
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ngl most ppl that join mine just join-die-leave

unreal quarry
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The part I hate most is when you get good players that bring their trash friends that end up getting banned and then you lose those good ones because they can't play with their friends

steel pulsar
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it's very hard to just launch a server unrelated to anything previous and attain a population

latent valve
steel pulsar
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you basically need a preexisting community

urban depot
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yeah billy that nearly happened to me

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44 unique players have joined my server so far, some of them now banned. now i'm at 30 unique players and between 5 and 10 generally active players

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I get trash whitelist apps so the good apps are good apps

unreal quarry
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The reddit has strict posting rules @urban depot. Be sure you read their guidelines thoroughly. My post kept getting removed because I tagged it with [McMMO] instead of [mcMMO]. They use a bot to moderate lol

static badge
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what

urban depot
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ok

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it's suepr annoying

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i did it finally

uncut moss
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break all the plugins

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so the people who have no idea what they're doing won't be able to fix it

olive marlin
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I hope Paper will hard fork next year.

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Whitelist gets rid of a lot of potential players.

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But you don't want most of them anyway.

urban depot
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Ok so

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It's whitelisted because chest protection was a bit annoying

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And I don't like getting rid of potential players

fiery tapir
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i'm sure there's a few servers out there with whitelist and chest protection lmao

urban depot
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it was because players stole but now i trust every player

olive marlin
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We went with whitelist - and now our players bring quite a few new people lol

urban depot
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got rid of em

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I have coreprotect tho

fiery tapir
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yea word-of-mouth

urban depot
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Also I need donations to keep it up and i've done a survey - 3players out of 13 are willing to donate.

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At this rate I won't be able to.

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30 players in total

olive marlin
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It's not easy with small player base and without giving perks that give advantage / break EULA.

urban depot
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I know how to make a server shop for w/e and stuff

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perks

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but people don't want it

fiery tapir
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i wonder how much money you could make exclusively selling rainbow-colored names for a rank

urban depot
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I'll add it soon but i doubt everyone will

fiery tapir
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probably not much

urban depot
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anyone*

olive marlin
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Yeah, a small % of people donate on a free server.

urban depot
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I mean I could add ranks you can pay for which enable w/e in plotworld, more plots, etc

fiery tapir
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unless you host a server for friends :P

urban depot
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I have some friends on the server but they don't really play mc anymore

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It's the people i dont know personally who really enjoy it

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:l

olive marlin
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I only run the server cause I enjoy making it run and all the automation around it lol

urban depot
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I doubt people would even pay for ranks on a server with an average of 2-5 online players

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^ I love it

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I enjoy moderating too

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It can be dull at times but yeah

olive marlin
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We have hats currently (you can put any item on your head for a small donation), but I want to find a way to make it work without replacing the head slot - so that potentially more people will buy them.

urban depot
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Problem with removing the whitelist is that players can make a starter base or something and never join again

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no i want more players

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relatable though

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It wouldn't be competetive - it would be for players to enjoy and support it

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you mean against other servers, right?

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competetive

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urban depot
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Oh, it's non-pvp

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generally vanilla

golden gust
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Yes

fiery tapir
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prow what the fuck is that domain

quasi valley
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prow

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prowoxi you weeb

fiery tapir
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well i don't know what to call them

potent fossil
fiery tapir
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i saw uwu in a fucking url and saw red

golden gust
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I mean,technically you could argue that they're not

fiery tapir
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oh he's one of those self-hosted screenshot guys

golden gust
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At the end of the day, they're bypassing DRM stuff, which is basically the definition of it

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The original software being vended as a non GPL compatible license, is defo piracy

fiery tapir
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.cumz.one
what is this fucking host lmao

golden gust
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Now, you could REE at the author at teach them the ways of the GPL, but, their license invalidity doesn't might it right

minor badge
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piracy sites like blackspigot are amazing for us though

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it's been useful for people reporting stupid issues with stupid plugins i got from there several times

cosmic musk
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do i need to own a Application to get discord Developer Application License or i can without it and use on my mc discord server

quasi valley
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yes you do

cosmic musk
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how did big servers like mortal mines and have

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oof ok

pulsar wigeon
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are yall trolling or...?

tired heath
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Just curious, do people just upload premium plugins to portals like black spigot or do they crack them also, if you would build in some kind of online verification and licence key. I mean since it is java it would be easy to break

quasi valley
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they do if they find out

void void
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they're usually first cracked

cosmic musk
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it says app must be owned by a team

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i guess i need to find a team

minor badge
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you can literally just pay someone to make a small ass game

cosmic musk
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oh yea found team

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xD

quick pasture
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Make tictactoe in javafx

twin lagoon
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@minor badge owo

minor badge
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owo

twin lagoon
mighty storm
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good morning proxi

quick pasture
minor badge
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good morning whoever that is

twin lagoon
void void
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nice domain

twin lagoon
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proxi invite when

minor badge
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nevr

twin lagoon
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@quick pasture how's LTT

minor badge
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scrot + owocli, zbk

quick pasture
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epic pog

twin lagoon
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how's the performance

quick pasture
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Great

twin lagoon
quick pasture
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Love 1.16

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😳

mighty storm
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Oh I forgot they set my nick to this

cosmic musk
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bought it

void void
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wat

cosmic musk
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it said game approvals are on hold

mighty storm
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Last night was wild

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What did

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Oh you're selling a game?

minor badge
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owolivia

mighty storm
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For selling a game only?

twin lagoon
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you don't need a game for discord dev licensing

mighty storm
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Uh oh

cosmic musk
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i have mc server

mighty storm
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Discord didn't like that

twin lagoon
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you don't need a game

quasi valley
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you do when they find out lol

twin lagoon
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every server uses it

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lol

void void
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say that you will give them much gold

twin lagoon
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you're literally paying them $25 @quasi valley

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for a dev license

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it's the only way to become a public server

mighty storm
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Yeah and they'll lose the perks until they start selling a game lol

twin lagoon
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imagine having async entity tracker

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haha jk

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unless fluSHEDd

quick pasture
minor badge
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become deblop and pr it @twin lagoon

twin lagoon
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i'd rather pay someone to do it for me

quick pasture
twin lagoon
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yeah there's no reason why discord would take it away

mighty storm
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They will

twin lagoon
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tons of people do it

mighty storm
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So?

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They'll probably just take away some perks not all

twin lagoon
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if they wanted you to go through the game approval system

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they would've enforced it

mighty storm
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Well there is no system atm

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So they'll probably force it when it opens back up

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If you don't have a game, bye perks XD

quick pasture
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just fork some tictactoe repo

twin lagoon
mighty storm
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Y'all really doubting discord huh

quick pasture
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change title of the game

steel pulsar
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are they really trying to make discord into a game-server-only thing

quick pasture
minor badge
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Discord isn't exactly the best when it comes to enforcing rules if it doesn't harm them (see shit like client mods which dont abuse api)

quasi valley
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it was your choice to pay

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ĀÆ_(惄)_/ĀÆ

mighty storm
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For perks to SELL YOUR GAME

quick pasture
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nobody forced anyone

void void
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yeah discord doesn't enforce much stuff and they don't really want to, and let it stay that way

cosmic musk
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so you don't need boosts anymore for banner if you have licence?

void void
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yeah

mighty storm
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Once they release community servers for free y'all will regret even buying it lol

cosmic musk
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i have 16 boosts

mighty storm
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Yes

cosmic musk
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its $25 nothing to regret that much tho

mighty storm
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Dev license is only store and announcement channels

void void
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hm free community servers, that sounds like it'll be botted easily

mighty storm
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And if you have enough members, public too

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They're releasing community servers once you have enough members you can apply

unreal quarry
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Just make mobile flash games and advertise them with "bet you won't last 5 minutes" ...
runs away

finite wave
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Nice

mighty storm
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Gives you same perks like announcements and server discovery

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Just without...paying

steel pulsar
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a

serene bolt
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what are you doing on the computer this late, step bro?

mighty storm
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I didn't believe it either

steel pulsar
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i made my discord account in 2015 beat that

mighty storm
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But it's already in the client waiting to be released

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Same Red

minor badge
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@serene bolt puwure

mighty storm
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prowoxi

serene bolt
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h e l l o :P

minor badge
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how u

twin lagoon
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@minor badge uwu!!!

minor badge
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shut UP idiot

quick pasture
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wtf

finite wave
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Ikr frank

mighty storm
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uwu DOES NOT MEAN FURRY

twin lagoon
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@spare venture my resource pack still better than yours

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eat my ass bitch

finite wave
mighty storm
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It means someone typed u then w then u

quick pasture
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take your uwu's to ur furry discord

twin lagoon
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how's your fishing rod

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exactly

finite wave
mighty storm
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Anyone who hates furries is secretly a furry, it's not hard to deduce that

void void
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spoken like a furry

finite wave
steel pulsar
#

Starting in June 2020, Discord announced it was shifting focus away from video gaming specificity to a more all-purpose communication and chat client for all functions, revealing its new slogan "Your place to talk" and a revised website

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fuck to gamers

finite wave
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That is called yes

void void
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wait what

mighty storm
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Discord really really really sucks

void void
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Anyone who hates furries is secretly a furry, it's not hard to deduce that

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?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

finite wave
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I never used discord games thingy

minor badge
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june
this happened far before june didnt it

steel pulsar
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Among other planned changes would be to reduce the number of gaming in-jokes it uses within the client,

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actually the best change

quick pasture
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wasnt discord advertised with time to ditch skype and teamspeak

steel pulsar
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yes

mighty storm
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Ye

quick pasture
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so kinda a valid move of them

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?

mighty storm
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Now it's time to ditch discord

quick pasture
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ppl still use skype

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for some damn reason

finite wave
serene bolt
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yeah I noticed the cringey gamer quotes on the loading screen for discord were missing recently

finite wave
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Scammed

quasi valley
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discord beats skype for sure (for "normal" users), but not really teamspeak

mighty storm
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Skype is great at least it doesn't go down every week

quick pasture
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teamspeak > discord VC for sure

static badge
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skype leaked ips all the time

finite wave
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Discord vc fully upped is quite decent

twin lagoon
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leaf ur going down kiddo

void void
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yesterday was the first time ever discord had gone down for me

finite wave
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Teamspeak still beats the quality tho

quick pasture
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Discord vc fully upped is quite decent
@finite wave at what cost tho

finite wave
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Idk

mighty storm
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My order of preference is
For text: IRC, Slack, Skype, Discord
For voice: TeamSpeak, Mumble, Skype, actual voice call, screaming, Discord

twin lagoon
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Frank I would like to announce that ServerUtils is a fantastic plugin

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and that I have now installed it on Bungee

quick pasture
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thank you

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leave a review come again thx

mighty storm
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Discord is LACKING in chat features and it sucks

finite wave
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It was very obvious when one of my networks decided to try discord from ts and the quality dropped a fuck ton

void void
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advertising šŸ‘€

mighty storm
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Discord is basically the "essentials" of chat platform

finite wave
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Lol

twin lagoon
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@quick pasture

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I have left my review

finite wave
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It’s aikar

twin lagoon
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Yes Barty

finite wave
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Michael is not a dev

quick pasture
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love it

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thx

finite wave
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He can’t make fancy stuff

void void
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poor michael can't experience our pain

twin lagoon
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bet

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did you see our emotes & prefixes yet

serene bolt
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the top hud is actually super clean, looks sweet

static badge
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isn't discord still lacking in profits

twin lagoon
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it is

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Barty that top server logo is very epic

static badge
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get ready for it to all blow up one day

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all have to go back to irc

steel pulsar
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what is this

twin lagoon
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Barty I'm missing Rainbow gradients here

serene bolt
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yeah where's all the RGB at

twin lagoon
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also what the fuck are your prefixes

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what's the heart

quick pasture
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am waiting for rainbow names to be updated every tick

twin lagoon
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they can't be all ranks

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ok so they're just tags

serene bolt
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"Owners Girlfriend"

twin lagoon
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e-girl

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with a heart

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BomBartyGamer

static badge
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smugcat labelling the egirls

twin lagoon
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shut up leaf

static badge
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no

twin lagoon
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yes

mental meadow
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who isn't an egirl tbh

void void
#

me

twin lagoon
#

me

mental meadow
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wrong

void void
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ur wrong

twin lagoon
#

i simp for minidigger though

quasi valley
#

hangar wen

twin lagoon
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kneny hangar wen

void void
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@quasi valley hangah wen

mental meadow
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It was like a silent wispered "no"

static badge
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I'M NOT EVEN FEMALE

quasi valley
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I have a cold

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can't do

twin lagoon
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leaf it's ok

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it's 2020

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yes

void void
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haha

twin lagoon
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it's 2020 we all accept you as the person you are

static badge
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god damn it

mental meadow
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If we wouldnt accept that we would have to kick half of the server Kneny

twin lagoon
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starting with Kenwald Television first

quasi valley
twin lagoon
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sexually identifying as television

void void
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what pronouns do we use for that

quasi valley
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all of them

static badge
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we use the pronoun "retard"

void void
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i thought it would be "damn you why aren't you turning on"

quick pasture
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tf is that

twin lagoon
#

ngl

quasi valley
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that's a meatball

twin lagoon
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pretty scuffed meteors

quick pasture
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ok but wat

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why

twin lagoon
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i expected something like applied energistics 2

steel pulsar
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'retard' has been deprecated in favor of 'stupid lil boy'

quick pasture
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what does it do

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does it blow up

twin lagoon
mental meadow
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I want a meteor to strike me every 6-12 hours tbh

twin lagoon
#

aurora fluSHEDd

void void
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very fancy minecraft there

quasi valley
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yours is just a more purple meatball

quick pasture
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ok ngl meteors are cool

quasi valley
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meatball. kappa

quick pasture
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meatballs too

twin lagoon
#

barty what else do you have

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go through the list

quasi valley
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I remember the baguettes

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I love em

twin lagoon
#

wooden buckets

quick pasture
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what do bottomless buckets do

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never fill

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?

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nice

quasi valley
#

I assumed never full too šŸ˜‚

twin lagoon
#

^

mental meadow
#

except for when you dunk them in water

quick pasture
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I imagine a cylinder as a bucket now

void void
#

now you need exploding buckets

serene bolt
#

american flag & hat
adding the important features I see

twin lagoon
#

fine barty you win

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you should be happy that you took inspiration

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i'll take 10%

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ya but i convinced you to use resource packs now

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still true

quick pasture
void void
#

i need to remember not to hoard year old ISOs

twin lagoon
#

ah yes

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seedbox for linux isos ofc

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oh we've had dupes too

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kek

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surprisingly not with the blocks / items themselves

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just the shop system KEKR

quick pasture
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ah yes monitor

void void
#

i mean like 1/2 of dupes end up being because of a plugin

twin lagoon
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our town system is pretty scuffed

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but it is custom and not towny

quick pasture
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monitor everything

twin lagoon
#

so i'm happy i didn't have to go through towny

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the better question is

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frank is that your dog

quick pasture
#

yes

twin lagoon
#

we need more pictures

void void
#

doggo

quick pasture
#

ok

twin lagoon
void void
#

rufff

quick pasture
#

hard to find pictures through 7000 saved memes

unreal quarry
finite wave
#

Seems normal to me

void void
#

yeah um scary

finite wave
#

You sure you weren’t just on another filter in your daily life?

golden gust
#

Can't see a difference

static badge
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babygalbreath

serene bolt
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that baby has a large beard and also looks both old and young at the same time :P

unreal quarry
#

she also turned me into a woman

finite wave
unreal quarry
#

its even scarier

golden gust
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I mean

void void
#

oh no

golden gust
#

Chrysti does have the more badass bike

finite wave
unreal quarry
void void
#

wtf

finite wave
#

How,

golden gust
#

works for me, back in 5

void void
#

i have a question to PaperMC/Waterfall

finite wave
#

Kindof hot if you dug the beard i guess

static badge
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kek

void void
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i have a question to PaperMC/Waterfall

finite wave
#

Dig*

golden gust
#

Don't spam

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just ask the question

finite wave
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Not in here

#

What

limber knotBOT
#

If you have a question, please just ask it. Don't look for staff or topic experts. Don't ask to ask or ask if people are awake or available. Just ask the question to the channel straight out, and wait patiently for a reply.

static badge
#

how many sync loads does it take to kill a server on 1.16

quasi valley
#

at least 1

kindred storm
#

depends on what you mean by "kill"

twin lagoon
#

depends on ur sanity

finite wave
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A max of 69 million

serene bolt
#

let's open a sunken treasure chest and find out - oh look, a map!

finite wave
#

Time to kill the watchdog barty

steel pulsar
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hello i have three questions: 1. can i ask the question 2. will you answer my question when i ask it 3. why arent you helping me HELLO

finite wave
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Red sofake

static badge
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ask the question

finite wave
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Pls help

static badge
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can't answer a question not asked

steel pulsar
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no i dont have a question it was a shitpost

unreal quarry
#

you're doing it wrong.. you must answer in the form of a question

void void
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#shitposting

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oh we don't have that channel

golden gust
#

.halp

steel pulsar
#

nice

static badge
#

general is shitposting

void void
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who NEEDsDS DEtaiIlL

unreal quarry
#

details just get in the way, amirite?

finite wave
#

I stole that photo

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How dare you not credit me

quasi valley
#

I wanted to steal it a couple of times, but never knew the command (or source)

unreal quarry
#

i was the first to use that pic here, jan 😠

finite wave
#

Oh dang

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I stole it from programmers hangout

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And it was pinned when i stole it so i thought i was the real thief

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Why u gotta still my greatness billy smh

uncut moss
#

errors are for pussies

finite wave
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Lol barty

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I just let java throw the errors

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Else use default values

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Just rm -rf dir

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Meh

steel pulsar
#

go look at mcmarket they have lots of weird shit you can buy for 150 dollars

uncut moss
#

spigot fork only 900 usd

steel pulsar
#

'entity optimization'

finite wave
#

Get hyperverse they have active support

void void
#

who is stupid enough to pay for a fork of spigot

finite wave
#

So if you pester them they’ll do stuff

void void
#

i guess only those who have money to waste

uncut moss
#

i mean

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it doesn't have to be stupid

void void
#

im not gonna pay for one even if it cots 0.1 cens

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unless they have shown that there is a significant difference compared to normal spigot

uncut moss
#

some do

void void
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or considerable

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im not gonna pay if they changed a few fields or used sin and cos a few times

steel pulsar
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its funny to see all these 'upcoming' anticheat plugins on mcmarket

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the authors are all banned

finite wave
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But our triangle is better than theirs!

serene bolt
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//entity.tick();

fast fork ready for sale

uncut moss
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"anticrash"

finite wave
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I would rather use glowstone

void void
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anti crash

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more like try catch Exception e

finite wave
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Would be funny

uncut moss
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catch(Exception e) {
  return;
}

i invented anticrash

finite wave
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Not return

uncut moss
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stacktraces be gone

finite wave
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Recall the main method

steel pulsar
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fucking sued for defamation

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ruined my business

finite wave
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It’s not defamation if it’s an obvious joke nub

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Atleast not in the us i think?

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I’m not a laqyer