#general
latent valve
peak dirge
I'm tempted to just add Bukkit#lookupOfflinePlayer() which would need to be called from the main thread, but with the difference being that it returns a CompletableFuture<Optional<OfflinePlayer>>
fallen oracle
All good, just making sure I was missing something.
wasn't*
That would be kind of nice, trying to think of how to utilize it tho. I haven't seen too many issues with getOfflinePlayer unless someone is dumb and tries to batch it.
mighty storm
good news guys!
peak dirge
The UserCache is thread-safe, and the relevant PlayerList code could be made trivially thread-safe with a bit of work.
static badge
meanwhile the profile api exists
peak dirge
I mean, Paper is superior, but we also have to support the id10ts who still use speg0t
Maybe call it sperg0t?
quasi valley
spaghet
worn ember
Now I'm hungry:(
serene bolt
🥖
unreal quarry
but we also have to support the id10ts who still use speg0t
I mean, the sooner we dont, the sooner they switch to Paper
worn ember
Fabric 2.0
woven otter
can I ping u instead
quasi valley
but only because it's u bb
waxen panther
poglins pogging eachother
serene bolt
are you just cancelling the ability for them to pickup the gold ingot?
ideally you could remove the goal from the mobs AI that makes them go after the gold ingots, but idk if that's a thing with any paper APIs
void void
just fork paper and remove that
azure flower
Is there anything a datapack could achieve there?
I remember hearing about a piglin_loves table
woven otter
what is this barty
steel pulsar
just for fun: is it possible to hide a player's online status on a server
to just like delete the packets showing connect/disconnect and tablist presence from a specific player
finite wave
Yes
spice finch
😮 !!!!
candid mesa
Know any good server selectors? Where you can also warp with it?
Say you select a server, but then it can also warp you as a second automation
quasi valley
that evil hand posture
waxen panther
vestal jasper
That evil face
lament patio
Oof, browser Discord crashes viewing some profiles too
fallen oracle
Wonder if there was an issue in fully rolling it out.
serene bolt
yeah some people are STILL crashing even after "being up to date" so I guess they haven't done a good job
vernal moth
It's because the GitHub verify thing, isn't it?
vestal jasper
@twin lagoon cat pic ^
vernal moth
Try my profile, I have my GitHub account added
twin lagoon
c a t
cedar spade
Ye I had the desktop client crash yesterday
void void
hehe i haven't had any issues
cedar spade
I think I'm on canary but clearly was out of date at the time lol
true canyon
🐦
lament patio
Hm maybe refreshing after the crash updated it, doesn't crash anymore
finite wave
I’m fine
void void
join me in my thread pool
kindred storm
no, in the connection pool
finite wave
I’ll connect you
minor badge
@fallen oracle i just use a background + transparency w/ picom, https://owo.whats-th.is/6G4ujfT.png
fallen oracle
Ahh
minor badge
it's very epic to use 
serene bolt
that's super pretty
finite wave
Oh my what a pretty little programming lang
minor badge
that's rust, jan
finite wave
I know, that is why it is pretty.
minor badge
hehe
finite wave
I just got pizza 
minor badge
om nom
minor badge
thats set by the EDITOR env var btw
and yes
i prefer vim, also use the ideavim plugin
finite wave
A lot of people have a very bad time when they start out with vim
minor badge
no surprise there tbh
minor badge
wtfwtfwtf
unreal quarry
i told my brother how to use vim years ago. havent seen him since
vestal jasper
billy I have a system where the only installed editor is ed
no docs on how to use it on the system
minor badge
first time ive seen a funny vim prison joke
waxen panther
ed should not exist 👍
stiff yarrow
what is ed
unreal quarry
a horse
minor badge
ed is the standard editor
waxen panther
pog
serene bolt
billy in a car? that's a new one
minor badge
NAME
ed - line-oriented text editor
SYNOPSIS
ed [options] [file]
DESCRIPTION
GNU ed is a line-oriented text editor. It is used to create, display,
modify and otherwise manipulate text files, both interactively and via
shell scripts. A restricted version of ed, red, can only edit files in
the current directory and cannot execute shell commands. Ed is the
'standard' text editor in the sense that it is the original editor for
Unix, and thus widely available. For most purposes, however, it is
superseded by full-screen editors such as GNU Emacs or GNU Moe.```696969 woul benicer
unreal quarry
too hot for the bike, pure 😛
serene bolt
I can imagine lmao
unreal quarry
i drove it down to the gas station earlier and noped right the fuck back home
cerulean crest
good afternoon guys, someone know how I set just the spectator and survival gamemodes for my admins? what permissions do I give to then?
finite wave
@cerulean crest Don't know bud.
quasi valley
@vernal moth hangar wen
quasi valley
stop this is illegal
vernal moth
I actually just sat down at my PC, lol
quasi valley
perfect 😂
vernal moth
void void
hangah!
vernal moth
you guys have been busy
vernal moth
😄
void void
ahha
quasi valley
but a good bunch of the simpler replacements
finite wave
I fully expect a section dedicated to launching paper planes on hangar
void void
im making a sandbox game with unity
finite wave
how great mini https://i.imgur.com/AJeEmKH.png
I should just use rainbow from now on and totally disregard all colors everywhere.
finite wave
Btw, anyone able to navigate this properly? https://adventure.docs.kyori.net/
void void
well module index 404s and theres nothing in the normal index
limber knotBOT
finite wave
what htis.
finite wave
Whatever floats your boat.
void void
i'm fine with json or yaml. mysql is a mystery to me
pastel pivot
I would use MySQL for data, not for configuration.
tacit slate
So for example I can use MySQL for player data but for messages config i can use yaml or json?
finite wave
Whatever floats your boat.
ashen cliff
MySQLfs or 🚪.
void void
sure do that if you want to
finite wave
There is no perfect solution, just choose whatever or make if configurable and do all of them.
mossy vessel
Just store everything in memory 
void void
real men make their own configuation format
pastel pivot
https://github.com/stonar96/Configuration (don't use 😅 )
void void
hehe
finite wave
xml 😭
cosmic raft
@pastel pivot <3
warm anchor
Can I do my config file in HTML 
true canyon
Calm down, Satan.
sleek tree
Is there a way to make Dynmap not laggy as hell?
smoky python
Not using Dynmap
true canyon
oh snap!
sleek tree
🤣 Fairs
sleek tree
Fairs enough I wanna run it on my server but it has 2 cores and 3GB of mem 5Gb in total 3GB given to minecraft and I wanna make sure it won't kill it.
void void
if you look at this focusing on the memory graph you will see that 1.16 is doing some really fucky stuff with memory
and it keeps doing that
the graph peaks at some point
finite wave
nogui 😭
void void
and memory goes down
urban depot
is anyone else having an issue where zombified piglin don't aggro at turtle eggs
smoky python
if you look at this focusing on the memory graph you will see that 1.16 is doing some really fucky stuff with memory
aka every new version of MC
void void
because imagine having 24/7 servers that use 1.16 and memory keeps getting used like that
smoky python
Thats why most people stay at 1.12.2
true canyon
Only two cores? So one's for the main thread, one's used by everything else in the game and dynmap's rendering?
warm anchor
@void void my server has been up for 2 weeks now no issues. I am just outdated 
smoky python
How much outdated
finite wave
Java likes to max out its memory cause it can.
It isn't that unusual that it will peak.
neat smelt
what are you even complaining about
serene bolt
that's super normal
finite wave
Yes, that is like.. the basic of any program.
void void
how
finite wave
Write to memory, release memory to write more to memory.
finite wave
So? 1.16/1.15 or gtfo
serene bolt
newer versions of minecraft have higher allocation rates
smoky python
Just imagine the jar to be a car, its starts and stop a few times when its been off for a while and once its fully started it goes normal
But never fully
serene bolt
but it's not "bad", if your GC is tuned properly than there is no issue
void void
its just that its not normal to use memory like that i dont care what allocation rates it has
warm anchor
That’s just GC doing the job
finite wave
What's the big issue though?
serene bolt
I will trust your JVM expertise on this matter 
finite wave
It is just releasing shit not used anymore.
void void
why does it not release as soon as it no longer needs it
sleek tree
Why keep it if you don’t need it?
finite wave
Cause something is referencing it or the gb hasn't walked over it yet?
This is java not rust
serene bolt
it's time to learn what a garbage collector is deny
void void
the server is in idle so there should not be that much action with memory
finite wave
If you want memory to be dropped as soon as you are done with it go use rust.
void void
um the server doesn't hibernate
serene bolt
call it every tick and you'll have no garbage
void void
my point is that there are not things like players loading chunks to use any memory or anything similar
finite wave
Call it in the watchdog every ms
void void
k what is GC
serene bolt
literally everything in MC uses memory in some way or another, and has allocation rates, chunk loading isn't the only thing that causes memory to rise lol
potent fossil
java is a garbage collected language, there are other garbage collected languages in existence too. this is just how they do memory allocation and cleanup.
finite wave
potent fossil
some languages do it differently
smoky python
This is what sound your server would make it it had sounds in; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DCCDisByMc
finite wave
Rust ❤️
finite wave
void void
kinda makes no sense
smoky python
You make no sense
void void
i dunno how ur ok with it
potent fossil
because thats how the language works...
void void
the graph suggests that is doing something actively all the time
cunning raft
finite wave
In a different language.
smoky python
to get different behavior, MC would need to be recoded
Something MC will never do
finite wave
I mean it sortof already has nick.
smoky python
Because Java doesn't make enough $$$
finite wave
Bedrock edition and shit you know.
void void
dont understand how server with no players causes the server to keep doing something actively
finite wave
Cause spawn chunks are loaded and ticked shit.
potent fossil
idk how well it is tho
kindred storm
just wait for someone to say "performance is bad because it's Java"
cunning raft
Because Java doesn't make enough $$$
@smoky python it still makes a lot of money
smoky python
Not as much as they want
limber knotBOT
java bad because is performance
cunning raft
but there's a reason that everything hasn't became the bedrock version
and it's not javas fault for the most part
it's mojang for writing their code with any sort of competence
void void
so is this specifically the garbage collector doing it
or how minecraft is implemented
finite wave
Are you even listening.
smoky python
Oh gosh
finite wave
It is how java was made that is the fault here.
smoky python
That makes my brain hurt
cunning raft
if mojang just 1:1 ported the server from java to cpp it would preform the same
give or take
smoky python
Facts
cunning raft
sadly yes
void void
you guys mentioned the garbage collector so im trying to understand how it fits in this conversation
cunning raft
and everyone talks like they're the authority on it when they have no idea how any of it works
finite wave
true canyon
Because notch's code is garbage in need of collection!
smoky python
If Minecraft server software was multithreaded THEN it would make differences
cedar spade
Java Edition is constrained to a fairly low OpenGL version too
inb4 someone points out the server is in fact multithreaded
finite wave
Just call everything async and make all variables volatile right? /s
I'm a genius i know.
kindred storm
replace all normal collections and mutable objects with concurrent counterparts - no exceptions, no bugs!
finite wave
Here u go use this https://cuberite.org/
I mean if you optimized it to fucking hell you can make some fairly small and cool asm programs.
true canyon
I believe someone was selling a server fork that did that sort of thing, A248, along with some sprinkling of synchronized
austere ivy
If Minecraft were to use features from OpenGL, say, 4.6, and my iGPU only supported up to 4.1, and I tried to run it, what would actually happen? Would it just not work? Would it be super funky glitches? Would I get spammed with OpenGL errors?
finite wave
Like the moon lander.
austere ivy
Seems like Minecraft is saying my OpenGL version is 2.1 
https://i.imgur.com/B0wTvNc.png
finite wave
Why is it my IJ always import java.util.*
cunning raft
If Minecraft were to use features from OpenGL, say, 4.6, and my iGPU only supported up to 4.1, and I tried to run it, what would actually happen? Would it just not work? Would it be super funky glitches? Would I get spammed with OpenGL errors?
@austere ivy it wouldn;t work
austere ivy
Weird thing is according to Google Intel HD Graphics 4000 can support 4.1.. odd.
@austere ivy it wouldn;t work
@cunning raft yeah but how wouldn't it work? just not run?
true canyon
I feel they should hire the demoscene to recreate the game in a small number of kilobytes, like .kkrieger
cunning raft
would not run
austere ivy
Aw ok.
cedar spade
Notch already did Minecraft in like 4kb
austere ivy
Different question, why can't old graphics cards just support newer versions of OpenGL with newer drivers?
Graphics cards just do dumb addition many times, right?
cunning raft
top reason is because they want you to buy new shit
true canyon
Entire 3D shooter with basic AI in 96kb - https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File%3A.kkrieger_gameplay.webm
cunning raft
there's other reasons too
void void
Is the Github Discord Connection new? Or is it just for verified bot developers?
true canyon
New.
void void
Oh alright thanks, got verified less than 24 hours ago so I didn’t know ;-;
cedar spade
void void
well shit
finite wave
Why is getOfflinePlayer(name) still deprecated ;/
cunning raft
because removing it would be stupid
and deprecation notices are the only way to get some sort of message across to people who don't know what they are doing
finite wave
Sigh guess imma just suppress this then 😢
austere ivy
Has spigot still not provided any alternative to implementing InventoryHolder?
kindred storm
that's a poor deprecation policy
void void
☹️
cunning raft
yeah md_5 has been pretty pepega with deprecation
austere ivy
Is that still just deprecated with them saying "we'll have some solution sometime lmao but for now just don't make any plugins handling inventories, mmk"?
finite wave
?
I mean getOfflinePlayer(name) i get why it could be deprecated, but it still serves a function of looking up offline players by name 😭
kindred storm
Why do you want to use getOfflinePlayer(String)? Can't that trigger a web request?
finite wave
No user will willingly type uuids in their comamnds.
austere ivy
What are you supposed to use instead of #getOfflinePlayer?
finite wave
kindred storm
I thought it's not thread safe, so it's not like you can run it async
kindred storm
pretty sure it is not thread safe
cunning raft
void void
i mean, how i understand memory usage of "idle" programs is whether it is using MOST/LITTLE of the memory (so what i expected was a straight line on the memory graph)
cunning raft
and it's not thread safe
kindred storm
I thought some people were just talking about that, including Tux who said he might make an alternative that returns a CompletableFuture
cunning raft
it's just deprecated because UUIDs
kindred storm
We still use names for display, if not for identification
finite wave
It was deprecated because idiots were still using names for everything.
and uuids > names.
kindred storm
I've had to do a lot of stuff relating to UUID<->name conversion just to resolve UUIDs for the names of players who are offline
databases, caches, offline player cache, mojang api request, other third party api request
finite wave
I really just want to convert name to uuid, and i thought i could just use the usercache already present, but whatever.
void void
finite wave
It uses cache over request doesn't it?
cunning raft
wtf are you talking about
finite wave
Did you even read the conversation?
cunning raft
you're 100 messages behind
void void
getOfflinePlayer
finite wave
kindred storm
My policy is not to use getOfflinePlayer(String). It's not thread safe but it can trigger a web request, so you lose either way.
void void
pretty sure whatever it returns is deprecated
finite wave
Lol no, it is fine to use.
kindred storm
it returns OfflinePlayer
finite wave
It is just one of those rarted things deny.
kindred storm
OfflinePlayer is not deprecated
void void
or maybe something in scoreboard
finite wave
What are you even on about.
It is deprecated because names are now no longer the way to properly identify players.
void void
im not sure where exactly but im pretty sure something offlineplayer was deprecated
finite wave
Me?
finite wave
What are you on about.
void void
i was just discussing it
cunning raft
void void
he probably gets spoonfeed by spigot forums
finite wave
finite wave
It wasn't threadsafe, so nty.
I will just make a small usercache for user joins and shit.
kindred storm
yep, you're going to need to do that
void void
put my code in your plugins btw its really good
while(true){System.gc();}```
slim nymph
paper has one you know
finite wave
Where daddy?
void void
check the docs
slim nymph
profile api, and i think we have a getuuid for name too that uses the usercache also
slim nymph
of course, .complete(false) to not look up textures if its already in cache, itll look up what is needed
how so barty?
not seen anything to suggest that
so far only know of improvements
finite wave
If i complete it will fillout the null uuid right?
worn ember
Did the chunk loading priorities change in 1.16?
void void
so thats what it was
finite wave
Deny, what are you...
cunning raft
void void
so thats what was deprecated
finite wave
It's threadsafe right aikar?
worn ember
Cuz it's taking a lot longer for my plugin to find locations after teleporting than it does in 1.15. so I assumed it gives player chunks priority or something. Idk
finite wave
Or should i just run it sync.
slim nymph
yes
finite wave
Fuck, i asked 2 questions. I'm gonna assume it's thread safe since paper.
slim nymph
weve seen some odd ball behavior with light performance sometimes appearing to stall, not sure if its a bug or not
yes it is jan
worn ember
Ah. That would explain a lot
slim nymph
genning chunks?
worn ember
Yup
worn ember
It can take up to 7 seconds to find a new location sometimes. And in 1.15 it was like 1-2 at most
slim nymph
well if chunks genning more due to exploration queues will be hawged
worn ember
I swapped versions and 1.15 just is a lot faster in generating chunks. Like it'll be fine mist of the time but then it just stalls for a bit occasionally
void void
wat
worn ember
finite wave
It loads faster in 1.16 that's for sure. (on startup)
slim nymph
that is not what ive said, generation is very low main thread impact
but genning is faster now
the main thread impact comes if you trigger a sync load and get blocked
pregen has never been 'faster' unless you gen world in vanilla before spigot releases
if your servers offline, pregen is stupid
finite wave
Well barty he might have said that at the start, but now he probably has more time spent on 1.16 to give a more accurate answer.
slim nymph
pregen doesnt improve any speed of generation
void void
||i like birbs||
worn ember
It does improve performance after tho
slim nymph
its more about can you get it done before you do the update
void void
k so in order to get a chunk to load from scratch Step 1. Generate the chunk Step 2. Load the chunk
finite wave
This deny dude is behaving weird today, think he is on drugs?
worn ember
He probably means that pre generating isn't faster than just generating on it's own
But it's a benefit in the long run imo
finite wave
Okay, sure.
void void
yeah shut it
slim nymph
chill
worn ember
@void void getting the chunk will generate it if it doesn't exist
slim nymph
gen is nowhere near as fast as load
the idea behind pregenning is to try to get the gens done while population is low / tps is good
because your servers doing that work at SOME point
why not just let it do it when the chunks actually wanted
i have a fixed size resource world, not every chunk is even generated before we reset it
yes, and resource,s you may end up genning more than you need
and some people keep their server 'offline' during it
which is just dumb
yes, it is
you know whats slower than a server genning chunks on a player?
a 0 tps offline server
what have i said that gave you that idea
worn ember
Just run MMSG on a thread ripper and let it run for a few hours. Profit
smoky python
Guys my server is offline and it has 0tps how do I fix this?
worn ember
Install my Bitcoin miner
worn ember
@smoky python have your tried turning it on and off again
slim nymph
yes, i said if you do that then its fine
worn ember
slim nymph
pregen has never been 'faster' unless you gen world in vanilla before spigot releases
or i guess another instance is equal same
im mainly referencing those who literally turn their servers access off and have downtime
worn ember
We already established that
slim nymph
its more so about avoiding risk of triggering a sync chunk gen
if you avoid sync chunk gens, then world gen isnt gonna hurt much as its fully async, outside of if you overload cpu
worn ember
I feel we're going in circles herr
serene bolt
I mean even just chunks loading super fast is a good enough reason for me beyond any TPS concerns
slim nymph
though people on those insane cpus 9990k or w/e is getting some insane fast gens
serene bolt
if you have the disk space and have a good way to do pregeneration without affecting your player base / server uptime, do it
lol michaels server is insane
his chunk gen speed was nuts
void void
pretty sure my 4790k can get fast chunk gen speeds
worn ember
Nice meme bro
worn ember
It's not all about clockspeed
serene bolt
lol
void void
lets try it
worn ember
Dammit now I wanna revive MMSG.
serene bolt
I'm not gonna say a 4790k is bad, I'm able to have 30 players~ with 20 tps on it, but trying to say it's some incredible chip for chunk generation isn't very true
there's also a lot more that factors into it than just a CPU....
void void
what makes a chip good for chunk gen
it still works well
more cores higher clock speed
serene bolt
lol I know right
void void
how am i trolling
i mean if its not holding it back then why upgrade
i really dont get ur logic
slim nymph
we had this troll ins pigot other day saying you can build a cluster of vms and combine the cpu power to get better tps
worn ember
Hes just
void void
hey don't mock the uninformed
only the stupids 
il try it and see how well it runs
so feel free to mock me
worn ember
When I say something I just always add ,"I think" in the case I'm wrong. Then it's not my fault
void void
i say funny stupid stuff
🤡
its a good cpu so i thought it MIGHT get good chunk gen speeds
its more of a rule of thumb tbh
like i'd bet money that an i9 will outpeform an i3 with everything else being the same
twin lagoon
what do you mean my xeon e5 with 24 threads can't handle mc
void void
void void
you told me to yoink them
well "encouraged"
<-- i prefer this reeeee
tried it with speed 10 and seems to be loading the chunks almost instantly no lag
serene bolt
now add more than 1 player to the testing scenario
void void
well im not really testing more than one player im testing how long will it take to generate chunks on demand so i need one player only for that
serene bolt
right but that's not a real world scenario, saying a 4790k is a beast at generating chunks when you have a sample size of 1 player online isn't going to be real - because of course it's going to be fast, it's 1 player doing it lol. now try throwing 30 players on a fresh map :P
void void
did not say was beast stop bending my words
orchid quest
hey does anyone know of a more hearts plugin for 1.16?
serene bolt
ancient history
fervent pilot
I know it's old but
just wanted to know
since I never used it but some servers still do
orchid quest
@spare venture like a plugin that awards an extra heart for completeing somthing
alrighty, i know theres some for older versions but i cant find any for 1.16
fervent pilot
create one then
olive marlin
There's a chance that they still work.
I see stuff like https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/kaleys-hearts-challenge.77830/ and https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/hearts-advancedabilities-ability-add-on-statsabilities.81064/ and some more.
There's so many different, that idk what exactly you want.
fervent pilot
guys is there a way to show up what I'm editing on eclipse in the discord status?
orchid quest
ill try it out
serene bolt
no idea, but there's intellij plugins for that
fervent pilot
maybe a plugin or something like that
I know, I see a lot of them
I mean status with "Playing IntelliJ IDEA..."
smoky python
Ya'll banned from my roblox server
smoky python
Delete it
potent fossil
.g eclipse discord rich presence addon
limber knotBOT
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fervent pilot
exactly
fervent pilot
ty anyway
smoky python
use intellij tyvm
potent fossil
stop being so fucking toxic
eclipse is just fine
ij is fine
as long as you can code in it, its fine
finite wave
I only got bad runins with eclipse, but then again i've been on the spigot forums helping people.
smoky python
After 10 classes I can't open eclipse anymore
small fjord
Vim > everything
smoky python
My school even use Intelij
And we don't even have programming classes
or anything related to it
fervent pilot
it's just that I started programming with eclipse and I don't really want to change ide now
anyway I think it's not bad
serene bolt
yeah, I used JCreator for quite a while in school, then ended up using eclipse in HS, then switched to intellij like 5 years ago
wide chasm
My uni doesn't care about what tool you use
smoky python
notepad
fervent pilot
good
smoky python
ms paint ide
wide chasm
For all they care you write code by hand and then scan it.
smoky python
scan it?
wide chasm
Sure, throw an OCR at it and hope your handwriting is good enough.
smoky python
Ye I was just gonna say...
wide chasm
I'd recommend not writing code in PowerPoint though, quite a hassle.
smoky python
Do you also have to write down the imports?
lament patio
Yep, ours were handwritten too
wide chasm
In exercises, yes with imports. On exams no.
fervent pilot
surely it's more difficult
true canyon
When I took the AP exam in Java it was hand-written 😦
wide chasm
"This looks like a tab not spaces -1" /s
smoky python
Next year I gonna take programming classes
But not java
Probably JavaScript or C#
Haven't decided yet
wide chasm
I'm surprised so many of your exams are written, almost all of mine are digital.
smoky python
With IDE?
wide chasm
No not with IDE
vernal moth
totally didnt auto generate them 😄
wide chasm
Although we don't write much code on an exam
It's usually just multiple-choice and open answer questions.
cunning raft
what happened to Hangar1 😳
vernal moth
Hangar1 = fork of ore = scala/play = baaad
Hangar2 = spring recode of hangar1 = goood
especially since its java and spring and everybody can contribute
and md and kenny actually do that
vagrant niche
So don't have a shitty UI like discourse
orchid quest
anyone know why spigot wont allow the bottom line text in the motd?
true canyon
BOTTOM TEXT
olive marlin
I thought it works, just the new RGB stuff works only on Paper or something like that. But that was in one of the first builds that I checked.
Bottom text is something else than second line of MOTD? Like, shifted characters/subscript s?
hollow plaza
super cow powers
smoky python
Hopefully self design UI's in minecraft 2.0.1
minor badge
@void void birbs should load a lot quicker now :)
finite wave
Made a plugin to display birbs ingame yet?
waxen panther
i found a non-birb but i was refreshing too quick =(
void void
make it slower!!!
minor badge
ive prepared work on verifying birbs, brocc
later on, random birbs will only be verified birbs
finite wave
waxen panther
thank u x
serene bolt
proxi is doing some serious work for the better of birbs everywhere 
nocturne agate
How would you make a discord client?
void void
yea.. discord doesn't like that
nocturne agate
I know but how do other people make it
finite wave
void void
the usual reverse engineering, its just a web app so not a challenge
nocturne agate
oh but but to do they use the discord api
void void
yes obviously
nocturne agate
oh alright
true canyon
The key is to use it the same as the official client does so as to not be suspicious.
nocturne agate
oh that sucks so you can't hugely modify it?
void void
you can do whatever you want with it
round sleet
is there a way to make chunkmaster a little less aggressive
void void
its just discord doesn't like it and if their system catches you or someone reports you bye bye account
nocturne agate
Is it worth making a personal client?
nocturne agate
alright
void void
haha
wide chasm
I expected nothing less
vagrant niche
Stomp on dem birbs
void void
no u
zealous wedge
lol you can sort of do that with adventure and viaversion
void void
also making my own gamemode that has generators
and I forgot to stop the item spawning before I left for dinner
1GB max memory?
testing servers
i only give them 1gb
ah fair enough
uh
how do i like
get rid of drops
/killall entities & /killall drops don't do nothing
void void
html 
kindred storm
for rgb, I heard some people are doing <#FFFFFF>
worn ember
and what does that accomplish at all?
i mean, do you put your text between the <> then?
kindred storm
no, after
zealous wedge
that's minimessage almost
finite wave
kindred storm
the < and > make it clear that what's inside is a hex value
worn ember
so you just cut every section after it and color it?
void void
wait so its like color:#fdfasdf this is a colour
finite wave
Just use either https://github.com/Phoenix616/MineDown or https://github.com/KyoriPowered/adventure-text-minimessage
kindred storm
yep
finite wave
They are both maintained by plebs in here.
void void
so what if <#hex> some text <#hex> a different colour
kindred storm
then the new colour overrides the previous colour? what else would happen?
just like legacy codes - &aOne colour, &bAnother one
void void
guess that works, i prefer a <colour #hex> </colour> system tbh
kindred storm
one needs to be able to write config messages quickly
in practice, i will continue to use legacy codes myself. They're fast and simple
kindred storm
yeah, and I would prefer not to create a dizzying rainbow display
void void
but thats the whole point of rgb!!!
worn ember
minecraft flat design when
worn ember
love it how i cant remove files from my system even if i own it 
void void
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/506018400078659585/728339866940604436/image0.png did u say u r using windows?
void void
windows.old
ctrl shift c ctrl shift v in the terminal
i know how it feels to not be able to delete it
and the normal way everywhere else
golden gust
shoulda just used dick cleanup
cunning raft
^^
golden gust
void void
windows takes a really long time to delete stuff
void void
cunning raft
you just made it complicated for yourself
golden gust
freudian slip
void void
does disk cleanup even delete windows.old folders
void void
can also delete windows updates bs too
golden gust
it's annoying because you have to run it, click the "admin" button and then run it again, but, you can do it
(I'd imagine you could also just go hunt down where the stupid thing lives and run it as admin, but, bleh)
worn ember
i have full ownership but its still complaining about not being able to modify xml files
windows file system is great
void void
windows is windows
cunning raft
it's because they want to make it idiot proof
cunning raft
you shouldn't need to delete those files
void void
well that idiot proofing kinda sacrificied a lot
worn ember
im running out of diskspace
worn ember
mhm
void void
also clean up your downloads folder
just get one of those 2TB HDDs
and put all ur steam games in there
worn ember
yeah thats what im doing now
void void
.try
limber knotBOT
cunning raft
wrong use of that command but ok
mighty storm
hm
void void
hm
worn ember
hm
void void
pizza?
worn ember
time
worn ember
worn ember
🍕 🕐
cunning raft
altho i thought paper did some stuff fixing them
serene bolt
1.15 did, patch got dropped for now
true canyon
Dropped? 😦
worn ember
theres treasure maps?
true canyon
Saddest world, this is.
serene bolt
yup :(
void void
the maps you get in shipwrecks
worn ember
ive never found a shipwreck
void void
ah
worn ember
¯_(ツ)_/¯
void void
i only play 1.12 
finite wave
Big sad https://i.imgur.com/Ch5bEIy.png
void void
worn ember
which was it
void void
the ones that are against the law
torpid flare
i used to own a username with a space in it
i was literally a broken mc character
i couldn’t join most servers, the ones i could, couldn’t ban me or do anything
void void
wat
what happened to the username?
offline?
mode
There is some genuine accounts with both spaces and periods in their names
how
yeah the mojang name systems always been a bit broken
cunning raft
race condition
void void
are those like really old accounts
cunning raft
some are new
cunning raft
always created with a glitch
torpid flare
mojang changed them
and no
they were old
none of them are new
there’s just many that haven’t been discovered
cunning raft
i beg to differ
torpid flare
so they’re still being discovered
void void
so they are new
torpid flare
i also beg to differ considering i’ve been in that type of community for the past 5 years
these usernames have existed since alpha
much like 2Ls
torpid flare
if you can create usernames with spaces in them due to a glitch
cunning raft
but there hasn't been none ever since then
torpid flare
you wouldn’t name them “sick sniper” or “in shadow”
yes
meaning they’re all old
and none are new
cunning raft
holy fuck double negatives
torpid flare
no you
void void
k how find those usernames
cunning raft
the username system had a race condition and a lot of people were able to get duplicate usernames easily like last year
void void
examples?
void void
so thats new then
torpid flare
there was never an exploit to register usernames with spaces
you just could back in the days
there has been many exploits found in mojang’s systems
void void
The biggest issue with all username glitches is servers
torpid flare
i don’t know if it was 16/17 but an exploit was discovered to make 2l names
and yes, i’m aware
some 2Ls are just old accounts
but there was an exploit discovered where the exploiter made a bunch as well
torpid flare
no it’s gotten gradually worse
void void
I remember a period account joining a server and they hacked and hacked cause we'll the owner and anticheat both couldn't ban them
torpid flare
@void void we’re talking about different types of usernames
in that statement I meant invalid char accounts
such as ones with spaces
periods
dashes
void void
Spaced usernames are worse cause they can make you ban a random
cunning raft
i think spaces in names was still a glitch tho
torpid flare
most plugins aren’t written to handle them
yes it was a glitch
there’s just never been a newer exploit for them
cunning raft
i think it had something to do with unicode processing
torpid flare
so all the ones you see are just old ones
cunning raft
md_5 reported a bunch of them
torpid flare
but mojang’s been cracking down on them
void void
why were spaces in usernames removed anyway
Say you had Mr shadow it'd try to ban mr with reason shadow
torpid flare
oh so it was that cock who got my name changed
i owned “in shadow” at a point of time
that’s essx actually
cunning raft
why were spaces in usernames removed anyway
@void void think this question thru
torpid flare
essx could make you ban random players iirc
litebans just would do nothing
players couldn’t message me, etc
void void
The only way around it was to ban by uuid
well is it impossible to use spaces in usernames
torpid flare
yes but it wasn’t written to detect usernames with spaces jroy
golden gust
literally everything is programmed around the whole "one username = one word"
cunning raft
essentials autocompletes names
golden gust
That's basically the requirements that mojang set years ago, just, they derp'd
void void
Usernames with periods in them would get picked up as links by anti advertising plugins sometimes
cunning raft
im getting a brain aneurism holy shit
torpid flare
there’s still like
a few invalids out there
there’s one with an accented E
but I thought it was uhh
finite wave
The chatpaginator in bukkit is bad.
finite wave
There is no idiot proofing
cunning raft
md_5 reported a bunch of ones with spaces in them
torpid flare
choons always complained about them so when suddenly a lot started getting banned we thought it was him
void void
Invalid usernames are the interesting usernames
cunning raft
this was a while ago
cunning raft
im telling you
torpid flare
the 1Ls
cunning raft
not asking
torpid flare
i wasn’t talking to you
i was talking to the guy who just said
Invalid usernames are the interesting usernames
@void void
golden gust
They're definetly stepping up with the names stuff
golden gust
I know they've also been dealing with offensive names too
torpid flare
like for example, hypixel patched it when a guy named Mr.Adolf-Hitler
started joining and spamming fucked up shit
so it ruined it for the rest of us
void void
It's kinda sad in some ways for the invalids cause they're wiping out interesting history
torpid flare
that was one of the biggest servers down the line
void void
wait they've been dealing with offensive names? they're doing a bad job at that then
serene bolt
I had someone login the other day with the actual N word in their name, I was actually pretty blown away that it got slipped by somehow
cunning raft
y e s
torpid flare
their mods could do nothing about it
void void
i'm talking about what cat said
cunning raft
mojang does block offensive names
torpid flare
ahh well yeah
cunning raft
THEN WHY DID YOU SAY NO
torpid flare
on name change day this did not exist
cunning raft
holy shit
torpid flare
i meant hypixel
golden gust
I think that some of the name blocking is part of the dealings with microsoft and running stuff through their system
void void
you read the context
cunning raft
^
torpid flare
hypixel blocked “mr.adolf-hitler”
he said
“wait they’re dealing with offensive names?”
i said
“well no, it’s the fact it was invalid”
void void
and what did zzzcat say a moment before that
cunning raft
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