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grand pewter
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for now i've updated my server to 1.16.1 as of like yesterday practically

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xD

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paper seems pretty ok though

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it hasn't crashed yet

serene bolt
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yeah I haven't noticed any real issues so far, besides just the vanilla conversion crap

grand pewter
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even that isn't really often enough to be annoying

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i'll lose a screen of text once in a while

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but really no big dealio

serene bolt
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GL on the admincraft staff application pop :P

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is admincraft toxic

void void
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toxic

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first of all

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it's a reddit community

serene bolt
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I mean neckbeard arm chair lawyers are not exclusive to admincraft

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yeah lol

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reddit and discord form a special case of cancer

void void
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i've seen more toxicity in discord than in reddit tbh

serene bolt
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never even knew they had a discord

finite wave
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Cunt

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Ahaha no worries

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I’m behaving

hazy veldt
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Excluding the Songoda day, I've never seen much chaos here.

serene bolt
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ehhhh it was pretty bad for a while but I blame that more on 1.16 launch than anything

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you get one toxic troll saying some crap, and then people dogpile

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just how it goes

finite wave
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1.16 launch over at spigot was worse

grand pewter
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i don't use reddit

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so yeah wish me luck on that 😛

finite wave
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I use reddit when i’m bored

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Also nice to be able to laugh when trump does stupid shit

hazy veldt
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If launch was worse at spigot, couldn't imagine what bukkit was like

void void
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i've just understood that you've seen the "milder" side of toxicity

finite wave
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They were all threatening poor little ms5

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md5

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Me?

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Prolly i stopped playing minecraft for a while anyway

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I got no clue when i was banned

hazy veldt
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Aren't people usually threatening MD5 anyways for various things?

finite wave
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Ah, that’s not that far

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😏

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I believe i asked if anyone wanted to see something cursed

upper flicker
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I've seen Jan do a lot worse than that

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:^)

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as long as he's fine now, he's welcome

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same goes for a lot of people

finite wave
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Squirrel lol

potent fossil
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paper is in a constant state of toxicity flux

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some days it's ok, other days it's absolutely not ok

waxen panther
finite wave
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I mean the squirrel pick was worse

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Me neither it was a very ugly image

void void
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wtf

grand pewter
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iv never seen anything super toxic but i guess im not here often enough

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actually nvm there was wizjany i'm joking obviously

finite wave
grand pewter
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actually that joke was kind of toxic

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maybe the problem is me

void void
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wiz was doxed

finite wave
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He is indisposed

void void
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fair point

grand pewter
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i just meant that wiz isnt admin here anymore

void void
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never leave us again

grand pewter
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but like the dox thing kind of sucks i hope hes ok seriously

finite wave
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Go away karen

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Oh yeah the dox dude was weird

serene bolt
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kinda depressing that wiz doesn't chat here as much now FeelsBadMan

void void
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yeah doxxers tend to be very strange people

austere ivy
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did wiz get doxxed?

void void
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yeah

austere ivy
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that sucks.

serene bolt
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yes but it's probably not a good thing to keep talking about it and entertain the idea of it

austere ivy
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for how much he seems to value his privacy I think one of the worst things that can happen to him is for that to be torn apart

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hope he's ok

void void
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what did you fic!?

austere ivy
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holy crap zbk do you mind if I steal this idea??

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oh did you actually fix it?

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I thought you were joking about just pressing the resolve issue button lol

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what'd you fix?

finite wave
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🤷

viral hornet
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@grand pewter when did you have your table taken? Either i'm tripping or that's new

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either way peepo_clap

grand pewter
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idk i think discord has been tripping today iv seen a lot of people with white names who shouldnt on various discords

mighty storm
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i believe if you click their name and switch channels it fixesit

limber knotBOT
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using a web client for chat

pulsar wigeon
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idk pure i think my IQ has gone up by quite a lot since i stopped hanging out here

mighty storm
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is there a site where you can upload your minecraft latest.log and it tells you or tries to analyze every oopsie

waxen panther
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how rude

latent valve
viral hornet
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I hope your blood pressure has also decreased, wiz

worn ember
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i think my iq went up too since wiz stopped talking here 😉

mighty storm
elder sable
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one cant help those who are already cursed with -iq

mighty storm
worn ember
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log analizer?

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female Anti-mage monkaomega

cunning raft
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discord added github in the connections tab

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hmm

serene bolt
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Oooo

worn ember
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thats hot

waxen panther
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yrdssashduahj

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finally

worn ember
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wait what

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where

serene bolt
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maybe not for everyone yet, I don't see it on stable either atm

waxen panther
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yeah im on canary

upper flicker
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not on canary and I have it

serene bolt
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ah yep, just had to restart discord

void void
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click on my profile
i dare you 😉

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Pog github

summer jackal
waxen panther
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bruhkript

cunning raft
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kotlin weirdchamp

serene bolt
clever mica
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Does anyone here know a good pvp plugin?

I'm on an smp and only some people want pvp. so I want a plugin that lets people turn on/off pvp themselves

mighty storm
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oh yeah github integration

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but it crashes if you view a profile and yourenot updated

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e.g. me

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maybe not for everyone yet, I don't see it on stable either atm
@serene bolt force reload discord CTRL+R or task manager i think

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oh you said that

serene bolt
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yeah i just had to reboot

mighty storm
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nvm im behind

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kinda hype ngl

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next up memerator hopefully

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anyway my latest.log analyzer is up who wants to help test/break it

vernal moth
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      override def traverseLimited[H[_]: Traverse, A, B](fs: H[A])(h: A => G[B]): G[List[B]] =
        f(self.traverseLimited(fs)(a => g(h(a))))
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wtf is this language?!

hollow plaza
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Is that Scala

vernal moth
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yes

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but like, wat

mighty storm
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oh wonderful

worn ember
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only fans when

waxen panther
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what am i looking at

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? ?

mighty storm
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let's break this down

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override overrides a method of its superclass
def traverseLimited defines the method traverseLimited
the rest = idk

pulsar wigeon
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it's curried. override def name[generic types](args of func1)(args of func2): returntype = code

vernal moth
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its cursed

worn ember
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what lang is that even

pulsar wigeon
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i mean not like scala invented function currying

worn ember
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oh

vernal moth
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it looks like out of a reaaaaally bad nightmare I sometimes have about kotlin

worn ember
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just go back to sleep

heady heath
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go to traductor and traduce this

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como puedo usar paper spigot o donde puedo encontrar el .jar rage spigot

still cape
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... why don't you do it?

waxen panther
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amazing

potent fossil
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how can i use paper spigot or where can i find the spigot jar

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roughly

zealous wedge
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functions are great what do you not like mini

potent fossil
fallen oracle
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Simple, you can go to the download page

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and we're known as Paper now.

potent fossil
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i know, im translating sir

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fuck off

fallen oracle
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Oh

potent fossil
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💋

waxen panther
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oh

still cape
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anyone know how to get ahold of klugemonkey?

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and i didn't even butcher his name 🙂

serene bolt
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he's on spigot discord

still cape
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i'll wait

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i heard horror tales about that place

serene bolt
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uh, okay

queen rapids
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anyone by chance know the email address yourkit sends license keys from? bought it a while back but im on a new computer now and i cant find it in my email 🙁

upper flicker
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although ours were always OSS keys

queen rapids
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nothing from them, unfortunately.. ugh. it took me to some third party payment processing site and i bought it there

upper flicker
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they can look you up by email or name Im sure if you ask

queen rapids
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might have to try that, thanks z!

vagrant niche
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CKN NGTS

supple siren
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can someone help me?

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im coding a paper plugin

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to a Magma server

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when i run it

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it just says that the class was not ifnd

mighty storm
cunning raft
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nobody is going to help you with that

mighty storm
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also it looks like paper isnt veen on the server

supple siren
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how its not?

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its a magma server

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haha

mighty storm
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whats magma

cunning raft
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not paper

supple siren
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its an Paper+Forge

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act it is

mighty storm
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oh well that answers hat

cunning raft
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exactly what you won't get support with

supple siren
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exactly what you won't get support with
@cunning raft well, from you I do not expect help btw

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xD

cunning raft
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nobody here will help you with something that isn't paper

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but ok

supple siren
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it is paper bruh

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open the link & see it

mighty storm
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the gradle file doesnt even reference paper

cunning raft
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it's not paper

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it's magma

supple siren
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and what magma is?

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Paper+Forge

mighty storm
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it's really not

cunning raft
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ok

supple siren
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open the link

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that i sent

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and u will see

cunning raft
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paper is spigot+paper

supple siren
cunning raft
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you don't see people going to spigot for paper support

vagrant niche
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the fk is magma oh jesus fk

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not again

mighty storm
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its partners 🤢

supple siren
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see the path

vagrant niche
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who's the dev magmaguy

upper flicker
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If you have problems with Magma, go talk to Magma

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You are not supported here

supple siren
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I was there

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PressF for magma

vagrant niche
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Why tf is it called magma foundation

supple siren
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and they told me to ask for you

upper flicker
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Not our problem

supple siren
vagrant niche
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LMFAO

mighty storm
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poor magma

cunning raft
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it's not paper's fault they don't shade the paper api in properly

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lol did they shade in paper api

mighty storm
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i dont see it in the build.gradle

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it's not

vagrant niche
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You are better off with spout

mighty storm
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wait

cunning raft
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they copied pasted

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and its 1.12

olive patio
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:dumfounded:

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I thought we were talking about MAGMAGUY

vagrant niche
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no

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its worse than magmaguy

mighty storm
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wait a minute, this is cursed magma, are they just using paper code?

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it's "idk how to git"

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"but am know copy pasta"

mighty storm
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dmca time question mark?

cunning raft
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no

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not dmca able

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vagrant niche
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what do you expect

cunning raft
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gpl is gpl

mighty storm
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it makes no references to paper/spigot/etc or whatever

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i though it had to to be in good standing

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at least in the license file

cunning raft
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it'd be so pedy to do that

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(dmca)

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not worth it

mighty storm
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good concept, abysmal execution

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they got the forge submodule right??

cunning raft
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it's nothing new

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wait till you see mcmarket resources smugcat

unreal quarry
vagrant niche
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Why is it that every time a new forge hybrid software comes around its always made by incompetent ppl

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you have to be incompetent to think it would work

mighty storm
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i was just joking earlier about shading paper into forge at compile time but this is next level tomfoolery

vagrant niche
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I mean, just look at tuinity

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just top incompetenntcy

mighty storm
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ouch

reef hornet
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ur face is top incompetency

mighty storm
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at least in the license file

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we gonna armchair lawyer this fork to death or

mighty storm
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I always reference when I copy paste a considerable portion of code in one way or another even if I edit it and even if it's my code from elsewhere

reef hornet
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as far as I know, Magma works via patches, I don't think a copy and paste would work

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it's based on top of Forge

mighty storm
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it has forge submodule I think it's called

reef hornet
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but I'm no developer so I may be 101% wrong

mighty storm
reef hornet
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well it's not like nobody knows Paper

slim nymph
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how the hell is that based on paper but uses timings v1

reef hornet
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it's not based on paper

mighty storm
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it's like a copy of 1.12 paper or whatever

reef hornet
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it's based on Spigot

mighty storm
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PepeLaugh timings v1

reef hornet
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and uses some Paper patches for performance and stuff

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but as I say

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I'm no developer so I may be 101% wrong

slim nymph
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why would someone do all this work and use spigot as a base

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man the masochism in this community

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the same reason they think merging bukkit and forge would work

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because they're retarded

reef hornet
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well there must be a good reason, Mohist uses spigot as base too

slim nymph
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i least understand their end goal

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ignorance is only reason to use spigot as a base

reef hornet
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maybe some conflicts with Forge?

unreal quarry
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merges forge, fabric, sponge, paper, and glowstone

reef hornet
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lol

slim nymph
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but if you include paper stuff, cant claim ignorance

hollow plaza
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We need more plugin platforms that start with Paper and then build on one another so the chain of patches from vanilla to the last one is even longer than now

reef hornet
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okay looks like all hybrids are based on Spigot

unreal quarry
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already done, pepper

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😛

slim nymph
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to be fair, if i was dumb enough to do a project like this, id use sep repos per MC version too

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instead of branches

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easier to sort issues and PR's out, since gonna be major changes

reef hornet
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they use sep repos tho?

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or maybe I failed that github class

unkempt drift
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they do have a Magma, Magma-1.16.x, and Magma-1.15.x repo

mighty storm
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they use sep repos tho?
@reef hornet yes thats what he said

still cape
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grr why can't you eat sugar in minecraft, makes no sense

reef hornet
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I missunderstood then, thought they said Magma used branches per version

mighty storm
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@still cape reminds me of that bear grylls mod where you could eat anything

still cape
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well i don't know if i'm ready for mc - pica edition (there seem to be getting a few too many editions already) but i'd kinda like food items to be edible...

slim nymph
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someone commented on them using sep repos as a 'bad' thing, and i was defending it

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if we supported multiple versions 'long term', would make sense for us too, but we dont, so it doesn't make sense to 😛

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as during these periods, issues and PR's do get quite a mess

mighty storm
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speaking of which, is 1.15.2 still supported?

slim nymph
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yes

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itll def at least be supported as long as my own servers on it 😛

mighty storm
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ahh lol

slim nymph
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i dont rush to updates, yall get to guinea pig

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but everything i do benefits my own 😛

grand pewter
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lmao good point

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that's good motivation anyways

slim nymph
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i dont tolerate conversion issues

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so i gotta figure those out

grand pewter
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i just moved to 1.16 the other day, and it seems alright though

slim nymph
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yeah but i wanna figure out these conversion issues for villages

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its not fatal but its annoying

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and the beehive thing concerns me

grand pewter
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yeah i decided to go for it because 1.16.2 is quite a ways it seems, and that seems like a non critical bug

unreal quarry
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It seems to only be a one-off thing, at least for me. Once an area throws those errors it never throws them again for the same area

grand pewter
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^

slim nymph
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that error message indicates its running a conversion w/o a dV

grand pewter
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its a conversion issue

slim nymph
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yes that is expected

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it applies to villages that are half generated

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if part of it was genned pre 1.16 but rest finishes in 1.16

grand pewter
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oh i see

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i dont get it much cause i have a pre genned world

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prob

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i saw it once or twice

slim nymph
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on edge?

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i wouldnt expect it at all lol

grand pewter
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probably on the edge yeah

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there may be some on the world border or smth

slim nymph
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but wait are you converting or resetting?

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you said pregen

unreal quarry
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What are the downsides of it? I havent experienced anything actually broken in game

slim nymph
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its just bugged terrain

grand pewter
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ok so my world was all on 1.15.2 before, and i genned a new nether and replaced the old nether with it, and ran 1.16.1 without any forceupgrade

mighty storm
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i mean i do have an issue? I made a brand new 1.16 world but there's like NO ruined portals, i type /locate to find it, teleport there, and there's nothing

slim nymph
grand pewter
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so it's a 1.15.2 pre-genned overworld/end

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1.16.1 nether

slim nymph
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that has the details and screenshots

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olivia that one is weird

grand pewter
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ah i see so it misses grass then?

slim nymph
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main case we heard on that was people coming from worldpainter or shit had features turned off

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can you check level.dat see if features is 0?

grand pewter
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i haven't seen any missing grass, so that isnt an issue

mighty storm
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sure

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in that world?

slim nymph
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yea

mighty storm
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i made it with multiverse so that may be why

slim nymph
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mv should be fine

unreal quarry
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Someone pointed out that if your main world has structures turned off, then all worlds have them turned off now. It's not per world unless you manually edit level.dat of each

grand pewter
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iv seen something about beehives once

mighty storm
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just realized I don't have a level.dat editor

slim nymph
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use any nbt editor

grand pewter
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nbt explorer works

mighty storm
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Yeah but I gotta use wine and as soon as I opened up documents folder it crashed

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Probably gotta restart computer

slim nymph
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i use one for linux

grand pewter
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ok maybe dont use nbt explorer

slim nymph
unreal quarry
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I use nbt explorer thru mono on linux

slim nymph
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doesnt support the newest format for long arrays

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but level.dat shouldnt use it

grand pewter
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that looks like a neat qt app

serene bolt
grand pewter
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simple but neat

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WEB NBT! lol nice

mighty storm
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generate_features is 1

unreal quarry
mighty storm
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Also, if generate_features were 0, wouldnt /locate not work at all?

serene bolt
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it's going to spread and everyone's going to do it :P

slim nymph
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no

mighty storm
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did /locate, told me to go to 368, ~, -624, went there, nothing

slim nymph
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was that chunk fresh gen or was it old from 1.15

mighty storm
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brand new 1.16 world

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I do have varlight @native cradle hmm

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i should remove it and see if it fixes

grand pewter
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wait what you can put images in tab now?

mighty storm
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yeah but I upgraded

slim nymph
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var light does some low level hook, so if it has any mappings wrong....

mighty storm
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i think

unkempt drift
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fonts right?

serene bolt
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they're abusing fonts in a resource pack, yeah

slim nymph
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wtf barty O.O

grand pewter
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lmao

unkempt drift
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looks hella nice tho

serene bolt
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it's been possible since 1.13 but people are just now discovering it I guess :P

slim nymph
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fonts?

unkempt drift
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can add fonts via resource pack

grand pewter
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oh so thats a single character?

mighty storm
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honestly big brain

slim nymph
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didnt pre 1.16 require replacing entire font

grand pewter
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wow fuck

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thats cool

unkempt drift
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1.16 introduced fonts in chat components iirc

mighty storm
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also @native cradle i did /locate stronghold and it was there

grand pewter
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what does it look like without a texture pack

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zero width character?

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or something

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oh ok

serene bolt
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random character that he replaced

unkempt drift
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wow, so you think you can just "replace" the chinese language... smh

grand pewter
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can you type the character in chat to get the pic too XD

serene bolt
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yup LOL

slim nymph
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brb updating my marketing pages to say "and not annoying colors like Barty's"

mighty storm
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well i'm having to join on my phone since my computer keeps getting worse every program i open until I restart, worldediitng will be difficult

serene bolt
grand pewter
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im scared

unkempt drift
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yeah, that sounds like you can do quite a bit

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inb4 1.16.2 reverts that

mighty storm
unkempt drift
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can you somehow change the font of the score on scoreboards to hide the numbers?

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yeah, a border might look nice

cosmic raft
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Scoreboard overhaul would be nice to happen - more than 16 lines, no numbers on the side option, etc

unkempt drift
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yep

serene bolt
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getting rid of the numbers alone would be so good

mighty storm
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hiding numbers could be a reasonable vanilla feature too

cosmic raft
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not everything barty

unkempt drift
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its such a useful tool for displaying info, so its not all bad

mighty storm
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remember the original intention of scoreboard is... a board to show scores

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I mean, if you think about it, hiding numbers could be a nice vanilla feature

unkempt drift
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do player names support the font thing?

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just make your name a MASSIVE image

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display names

cosmic raft
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It isn't a lot of work, barty, but there are more important things

unkempt drift
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nicknames

mighty storm
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in the sense of, seeing what teams are left, but not how many players (Unless you're on that team)

unkempt drift
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no ik, im just saying it'd be cool to have your name as your logo

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just a massive name/image that towers over everything

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oo yeah, picture books

serene bolt
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;)

cosmic raft
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They are

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20w28a starts introducing custom biomes, for example

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:-)

unkempt drift
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you know the little chrome easter egg you get if you don't have a connection? that game you play where you jump over the obstacles? Should totally recreate the ability to play that

mighty storm
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HOld on, could, for whatever reason, /locate ruined_portal be finding the NETHER's ruined portal and not the overworld's?

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i dont need sleep i need answers

cosmic raft
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@mighty storm no

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It does it in the current level, not any

unkempt drift
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I saw someone post there that mojang is trying to get MC down to a single java file, and like 2000 json files

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as a joke

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they do certainly seem to be giving way more customization options to users

cosmic raft
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@mighty storm source.getLevel().findNearestMapFeature(feature, pos, 100, false);

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is what the locate command does

mighty storm
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ah alright

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i'll delete varlight and see

limber knotBOT
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GitHub Issue #37 (Closed**** by flori-schwa): Plugin stops undiscovered end cities from generating [BUG]

mighty storm
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im on 1.12.1 rn

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oh crap

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it's weird, 1.15 and below structures are fine

vagrant niche
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you think premium genders is againts eula?

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don't think mojang will ago after u

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just call em gendercist

abstract peak
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anyone know how to update a server's java's version? I host it through OVH

vagrant niche
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wget -O paper.jar link

abstract peak
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pretend I have no idea what I'm doing

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and it's a miracle i've made it this far

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is it a simple command line?

mighty storm
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isn't it curl -o paper.jar link

abstract peak
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duno what that means

neat smelt
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java version, not paper xd

abstract peak
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or how to use it

mighty storm
#

You'd need to install java 14

abstract peak
#

14? was looking for 11

mighty storm
#

Or whatever version you want

abstract peak
#

suppose i just have to learn how to change it

mighty storm
#

I use sdkman

abstract peak
#

dunno what that means either

#

here's what i know: I have ubuntu 18.4

mighty storm
#

18.04

abstract peak
#

18.04*

mighty storm
#

And ye I do too

abstract peak
#

beyond that a friend set everything up

#

so what should i dooo

neat smelt
#

ask him?

abstract peak
#

who

neat smelt
#

your friend

abstract peak
#

oh

#

then i become dependent

#

and he's recently become busy

neat smelt
#

well you bought a dedicated server with next to no knowledge

abstract peak
#

never too late to learn

neat smelt
#

but my suggestion, go to google and type:
ubuntu 18.04 java 11 install

#

and read a how2

hollow plaza
#

On Ubuntu just do

#

sudo apt install openjdk-11-jdk

real ember
#

hey guys, is RGB color in bossbar possible in 1.16.1?
im trying to make a bossbar with custom color but doesnt seem working :/

hollow plaza
#

Does the bar support chat components

real ember
#

🤔 🤔 🤔 not sure, i only see BarColor in Bukkit.createBossBar

hollow plaza
#

Oh that's not text

zealous wedge
#

you can't do rgb with the bar itself, just with its title

real ember
#

alright got it. Thanks!

olive marlin
#

Cloud flare has a new challenge now and from what I can see, tools that could bypass CF went either down and decided not to implement it, or become subscription based :/

#

I wish Spigot allowed normal plugin downloads, without all this mess.

#

Cause (almost) all plugin downloads from spigot are behind CF.

elder sable
olive marlin
#

I can get everything I want with Spiget.

elder sable
#

Its people like barty who put captcha on everything

olive marlin
#

But I can't download the file.

elder sable
#

You are on my watchlist, barty

vestal jasper
#

Barty he's a bot and he feels personally attacked

#

dw about him

elder sable
#

Try to use google or anything else, in rising levels of difficulty:

  • VPN
  • TOR
  • NoScript
vestal jasper
#

bots don't have feelings

olive marlin
#

We do have feelings, Vic.

vestal jasper
#

that's what a robot without feelings would say

elder sable
#

That's why you are on my watchlist. I'll be waiting for a new tr^Wtreat

#

I don't like people who don't like people

vestal jasper
#

you're a robot not a person

elder sable
#

I must serve human

limber knotBOT
#

wtf is happening lol

elder sable
#

What if my ISP modifies my HTTP traffic and I want to escape that?

vestal jasper
#

get a new ISP

elder sable
#

What if I'm on public unencrypted wifi? What if the only allowed traffic is tcp/80,443?

#

I use my own server 24/7 as VPN

neat smelt
#

the hospital i were in, didnt allowed to visit any hand in your pants website

#

so i had to use a vpn to bypass it

vestal jasper
#

Do you have a cellphone with a dataplan?

neat smelt
#

but normally i never use a vpn, i can just restart my router to get a new ip

#

or well, it does that automatically every 3 days

#

germany is trying to force something in that direction

elder sable
#

have them send in nude pics, thats about the right level of security

neat smelt
#

germany is trying to force a law, where you have to give specific websites your personal id card number to use it

#

like twitter for example

olive marlin
#

Using IP is very pepega. We had 2 players, living in the same city. One of them had IP X for some time, and after some time, the other got that IP.

#

Found it out, because we have the dynmap ip based names enabled.

elder sable
#

lmao barty emigrate to the very china you blanket blocked

#

thats literally the reason

#

government wants power to use against counter-propaganda

neat smelt
#

make your own premium system barty

elder sable
#
  1. go to some homeless on the street
  2. get him beer and pizza
  3. enter his ID
  4. ???
  5. Join Bartys 🌈 server
neat smelt
#

thats why i said, make your own premium system

#

where using a normal minecraft account is a bad idea

#

but using a barty account is stonks

#

so there arent many leaked accounts going around

#

bc lets be honest, mojangs account system is outdated af

elder sable
#

😂

neat smelt
#

😂

limber knotBOT
#

[-d] [-w <who>] <when> <message...>

elder sable
#

instead remind dinnerbone to be open

#

he has stories to share

limber knotBOT
#

DiscordBot: Reminder set for 12 months from now.

neat smelt
#

xD

potent fossil
#

You're in paper.

elder sable
#

look for server brand something

slim nymph
#

thanks for the link earlier @mighty storm , found something cool on github 😄 https://github.com/aikar

ancient bolt
#

I should probably do that but idk what I'd put on mine

mighty storm
#

oh yee the readme on profiles now 😄

slim nymph
#

hadnt seen that before

mighty storm
#

i think it came out yesterday

slim nymph
#

githubs all like "you found a secret feature" when you create the repo

ancient bolt
#

yeah it's not so secret any more

mighty storm
#

oopsie daisies

#

ok question, which is better (or is it just personal preference)

method()
{
  stuff
}```
```java
method() {
  stuff
}```
ancient bolt
#

option 2

mighty storm
#

i always do the bottom

ancient bolt
#

saves a lot of useless vertical whitespce

#

especialy with if-statements

slim nymph
#

only horrible people would use first

ancient bolt
#
if (condition)
{
    doThing1();
}
else
{
    doThing2();
}

Is just ugh

steel pulsar
#

if you read default java packages they always put {} on the same like

#

mark of a true profesional

ancient bolt
#

I prefer to always require braces, and doing the second style only adds 1 line in the above scenario

#

if you omit braces I can't take you seriously

slim nymph
#

The K&R style (Kernighan & Ritchie Style), which is also called "the one true brace style" in hacker jargon[5][6] (abbreviated as 1TBS[7]), is commonly used in C, C++, and other curly brace programming languages. It was the style used in the original Unix kernel, Kernighan and Ritchie's book The C Programming Language, as well as Kernighan and Plauger's book The Elements of Programming Style.

#

ONE TRUE BRACE STYLE

ancient bolt
#

the linux kernel is super weird because it uses K&R for inside function bodies, but functions themselves use the C# style new-line braces

slim nymph
#

latter is "allman" style

quasi valley
#

oh lol a readme to your own profile, interesting

mighty storm
#

yeee

#

and also ondiscord profiles

#

dont check my profile unless youve updated

quasi valley
#

what happens otherwise? 😂

mighty storm
#

it crashes

#

discord just up and crashes

quasi valley
#

nice, let me try that

mighty storm
#

the exact opposite of microsoft backward-compatibility wise

ancient bolt
#

wait what?

#

what discord profile?

mighty storm
#

well, "profile"

#

right click > profile

ancient bolt
#

I only see a custom status on yours

mighty storm
#

and integrations under "Note"

ancient bolt
#

oh the github integration?

#

I added that today, assumed it was always there though

mighty storm
#

yeah specifically

quasi valley
#

one thing I've always been confused with is when people state their pronouns; why do you write the possessive as well, isn't that obvious when just reading "he/she/they"? or has that just randomly been established? 👀

mighty storm
#

yeah they added it about 7 hours ago time flies

ancient bolt
#

mfw the discord client is so bad it crashes on something like that

mighty storm
#

only on clients who havent updated

#

including ios and android lol

#

one thing I've always been confused with is when people state their pronouns; why do you write the possessive as well, isn't that obvious when just reading "he/she/they"? or has that just randomly been established? 👀
@quasi valley yeah it's weird, usually you see both kinds of one pronoun or multiple of the same kind of pronoun, e.g. she/her vs she/he/they or w/e

#

the template included it so maize well

quasi valley
#

alright

ancient bolt
#

@quasi valley I don't really get why the possessive conjugation is there either, but I've just come to assume it's like a format so it's recognizable what you're saying rather than just having a random word floating by itself

quasi valley
#

yea that'd make sense

mighty storm
#

i always follow the methodology of if you use an api library and there's something it doesnt do, just pr the repo and get it added then use it with PRIDE DAMMIT

#

e.g. my bot had a github user command but didnt have a lot of features in the person class, added them on up and it's all good to go 😎

quasi valley
#

nah just create a fork with one changed line and continue using that

mighty storm
#

honestly i do that too

#

especially for something thats small and breaking

#

but i need it for my use case

elder sable
#

nah just create a fork with one changed line and continue using that
but thats not how minecraft server forks wörk!

  1. change one line of code
  2. complete rebranding
  3. my very own fork 🥳
#

you gotta learn from de best

quasi valley
mighty storm
#
  1. sell on mc-market for $10
elder sable
#

lmao. reminds me:
5) complain about other kids """stealing""" it

quasi valley
#

or even better, fork it, but push all of the prior code as one commit, signed by yourself

mighty storm
#

so whats the difference between mc-market and the forbidden s store? we always goof on mc-market but never shit on it like we do the other

potent fossil
#

one is a bunch of little kids being stupid

#

one is run by a literal psychopath

#

you guess which is which

elder sable
#

what forbidden store? there was a kid in here recently complaining about some discord guild uploading mod files there

potent fossil
#

im guessing she means songoda

mighty storm
#

wait so simp
One has a bunch of little kids for members
One is run by a bunch of little kids

#

and ye

ancient bolt
potent fossil
#

o nice

quasi valley
#

sexey

mighty storm
#

Oh yeah hot

#

And changes the font

potent fossil
#

nope @mighty storm, the one who runs songoda is not a kid, they're just a psycho

#

no other way to explain it

mighty storm
#

ah

#

Is there a way to swat but for mental health

potent fossil
mighty storm
#

Like they're reasonably needing help so you call in the mental health bois to swoop in and take them to mental hospital

#

I'd be called in so many times geez

#

Bad idea actually

potent fossil
#

only in some states and you need to be a family member as far as i know...

zealous wedge
#

ah yes institutionalization

#

what a great choice

potent fossil
#

honestly, when someone is uncontrollable like how my sister was when i was growing up

#

they need to be

mighty storm
#

I swear using discord on iOS is like a ticking time bomb

#

Eventually you're gonna hit a user and bam GitHub integration = crash

zealous wedge
#

everyone ive talked to who's been involuntarily committed has said it's not at all helpful lol

quasi valley
mighty storm
#

Yay!

potent fossil
#

well, and this is gonna sound shitty, but they're better equipped than the family is sometimes

mighty storm
#

My family is honestly worsening my mental health and I'm sure I'm not alone in saying that

zealous wedge
#

I mean I guess it could be better than exceptionally shitty parents

potent fossil
#

my mom had to be admitted to the hospital for sleep deprivation because my sister was on a fucking bender threatening to kill herself every 5 minutes for 72 hours

#

wow, ok

mighty storm
#

But I'm nowhere near bad enough to need to go to any sort of mental institution

potent fossil
#

yeah the parents are shitty due to an uncontrollable mental illness

#

very noice generalization

zealous wedge
#

I mean I would be saying the same Olivia if I were still living with either of my parents

mighty storm
#

The problem with mental health is it's hard to convey what's exactly wrong when "what's wrong" is the person you're trying to talk to

potent fossil
#

anyway, they helped, they got her on the meds she needed to be and she has been successfully living on her own

but yea, fuck my exceptionally shitty parents for not being able to deal with that and calling the professionals

fuck em good

mighty storm
#

I've only ever really wanted to kill myself once, and thankfully it's never gotten that bad since, I'm much better now but nowhere near in good mental health

zealous wedge
#

there's also a difference between going to a good counselor and institutionalization

potent fossil
#

this was full on schizophrenic episodes sir

#

she was screaming that there were demons attacking her

mighty storm
#

Anyway I should head off

potent fossil
#

there are no counselors available at 2am

mighty storm
#

Glad she's alright now @potent fossil

potent fossil
#

we called the hospital

#

but yeah, fuck them shitty parents

#

they suck big time

#

why in the world wouldn't those shitty parents be trained in treating that

#

how shitty can they be

#

wow

zealous wedge
#

fair - I'm sure your parents did the best they could

quasi valley
static badge
#

are those mangas in the background

latent valve
vestal jasper
#

yes

#

Scott Pilgrim, Evangelion, and JoJo

vagrant niche
#

god damn weebs

latent valve
vestal jasper
#

btw that is a real issue

#

like, it actually exists

left swift
#

Loli weebs are a scourge of the earth

static badge
#

link or fake

#

closed permanently

ashen cliff
#

It's fake. At least that one is.

left swift
#

Make it a reality

vestal jasper
#

Yeah

#

there's recreations

limber knotBOT
#

GitHub Issue #1110 (Closed**** by infirit): Doesn't work! UwU

vestal jasper
limber knotBOT
#

GitHub Issue #5193 (Closed**** by niklasf): Scawy inconsistent keyboawd showtcut UwU

vestal jasper
#

@static badge

#

it's not the same person but

#

I think you'll enjoy those two

ashen cliff
#

They both look normal.

static badge
#

already seen that

#

as evidenced by my trademark emote spam

quasi valley
vagrant niche
#

Som1 make a kawaii translator

ashen cliff
#

I'mu sure itsu reallyu existsu.

#

It does.

static badge
#

.g kawaii translator

limber knotBOT
#

(DiscordBot) https://honk.moe/tools/owo.html -- owo text generator notices shitpost uwu what's this?: "owo text generator. Fow aww youw uwu nyeeds >w< Pwease owo wesponsibwy. Based on the OWO Chrome extension by leafysweetsgarden. Enter your text ..."

latent valve
#

I mean waxwashewe thewe awweady site thawt twanswate those messages.

static badge
#

god damn anyime fweaks

vagrant niche
#

Da fuk

grand pewter
left swift
#

Oh god

vagrant niche
#

Ok use that to make a kawaii Lang file for essx @grand pewter

grand pewter
#

pr or shutup

left swift
static badge
latent valve
left swift
#

Sonic knows best

vagrant niche
#

Ye, go pr

vagrant niche
#

Yeah, just fuck up the keys too

smoky python
#

My Discord profile is looking good rn

waxen panther
grave oxide
tawdry holly
#

If I were to add head-vouchers to donators (items which allow people to buy custom heads and can be obtained through voting too) would that be against the EULA?

minor badge
#

as long as you dont have some head leaderboard or smth

tawdry holly
#

lol xD

waxen panther
#

eueyeuueueueulalaaaaa

tropic phoenix
#

Is paper ready for a 1.16 server now?

#

Or should I still wait a little longer

mental meadow
#

Test it^^

peak dirge
#

1.16 is still a little shaky, but it does mostly work

#

1.15.2 is pretty stable, I would expect 1.15.2 support to get dropped eventually

sleek tree
#

I have seen huge improvements. With paper. I switched from spigot 1.15 to paper 1.16 and only two crashes. 1 of which was on me and the other was on the actual hardware having a spaz. So neither on paper 😂

vernal moth
#

Paper go brrr

worn pasture
#

🥶

worn ember
#

Paper go woosh

cedar spade
#

paper go land in the hanga- oh wait it's not done yet

worn ember
#

love it when people just post a stacktrace on the issue tracker without any context KEKW

limber knotBOT
#

GitHub Pull #1 (Closed**** by FormallyMyles): Fix move packets

quasi valley
#

Closed** by FormallyMyles kappa

limber knotBOT
#

GitHub Issue #29 (Open****): Error 1.16 Command RTP

worn ember
#

fix going ham again xD

worn ember
#

can you generate fields from constructor args in intellij?

#

ik you can do it the other way around

woven otter
#

kotlin

worn ember
void void
#

no koltin nokotlin

finite wave
#

Koltin?

void void
#

yes no koltins

waxen panther
cedar spade
#

I think you can with Alt-Enter on the constructor args

golden gust
#

yes, ^ "bind to fields"

#

something like that

worn ember
#

ok thanks

smoky python
#

potlin

worn ember
#

smh wouldnt expect anything less from a dutchy

cedar spade
#

you know what language is even better than kotlin?

#

all of them

worn ember
#

tbh i dont think kotlin is that bad, i just cba to learn it properly

quasi valley
#

it's just annoying if people randomly start using it in a Java environment where it's used nowhere else lol

cedar spade
#

I don't really have any opinion on it lol

#

essx Kotlin rewrite when

worn ember
#

i used it in android dev

#

and it was aids

#

but thats just cuz android is aids too

cedar spade
#

I thought kotlin was meant to be better than java for android dev

worn ember
#

idk i havent used java for it

#

some things are nice yah

#

but android in general is just a mess to work with

cedar spade
#

ye

worn ember
#

so the lang doenst really change that

vestal jasper
#

@static badge fucking furry silence_furry

static badge
#

here's vic

vestal jasper
#

That's u

static badge
#

what does vic get?

vestal jasper
#

Furry

static badge
vestal jasper
#

Ok cat avatar

spice finch
vestal jasper
twin lagoon
#

hi vic

vestal jasper
#

Hi

static badge
#

vic you have a cat avatar

vestal jasper
#

Ok furry

static badge
vestal jasper
latent valve
finite wave
#

Spotteds profile is bad

vestal jasper
#

Leaf is a furry there's many bad things about him :^)

twin lagoon
void void
#

god i want qubes os but cos hardware compatability issues i'd have to buy a lenovo thinkpad x230 or smthin

austere ivy
#

To anyone who draws, what eraser would you recommend?

#

I guess more broadly what type.

#

I'm looking into one for erasing graphite on sketch paper, but being able to erase colored pencils would be a nice bonus I suppose.

#

I do not want to erase ink though, as I'd like to be able to sketch something with my mechanical pencil, ink over it, then remove the pencil with the eraser.

#

Should I get different types of erasers? I don't know ._.

olive garden
#

I think this is the wrong paper discord for you

austere ivy
#

Oh, damn, whoops.

#

Smh can we get a #paper channel in here?

steel pulsar
#

buy a conputer and use the delete button

austere ivy
#

buy a conputer and use the delete button
@steel pulsar Ah yes, saying I'm using the wrong technology while not even addressing my question. I'm sure you'd fit right in over at stackoverflow

steel pulsar
#

its my home page

olive garden
#

lmao

steel pulsar
#

this is me on StackOverflow

twin lagoon
#

kneaded sucks

#

staedtler best

worn ember
#

kneedead

austere ivy
#

I'm seeing a lot of good things about the Mars, I think I'll go with that, thank you.

#

._.

worn ember
#

why tf are you buying erasers on amazon

#

literally go to any store

austere ivy
#

I can't drive ;p

steel pulsar
#

do you have legs

austere ivy
#

.. yes.

worn ember
#

no wonder ur all so fat smh

austere ivy
#

I don't live in the city though, I live in the suburbs.

#

It's a bit of a walk to any store.

steel pulsar
#

what kinda suburb doesn't have erasers

austere ivy
#

The one that doesn't have a pencil shop as your nextdoor neighbor.

worn ember
#

"pencil shop" pretty sure any super market sells erasers

steel pulsar
#

or like convenience store

worn ember
#

smh part of the problem

austere ivy
#

Nearest store is 2 miles away, I don't feel like a 4-mile round trip lol

vernal moth
#

.wa 2 miles to km

limber knotBOT
#

(DiscordBot) Result: 3.219 km (kilometers) - https://is.gd/Q8qxoN

Wolfram|Alpha brings expert-level knowledge and capabilities to the broadest possible range of people—spanning all professions and education levels.

worn ember
#

bruh

#

you can literally do that in 10 minutes on a bike

vernal moth
#

But also like, who uses pencils?

worn ember
#

i drive 45 mins to work on my bicycle

#

and 45 back

vernal moth
#

Last time I touched a pen was signing a contract 😂

worn ember
#

i still draw occasionally but usually with pens

#

i just make one trip once a year to get supplies for college lol

#

imagine buying everything of amazon kek

#

no wonder Bezos is so rich xD

#

lmao

#

i dont have a tablet

#

and drawing diagrams on a laptop is just too slow

austere ivy
#

i drive 45 mins to work on my bicycle
@worn ember drive, bicycle thonk

olive garden
#

yes, ded is a bit special

worn ember
#

wtf do you call it then?

quasi valley
#

I say that too 😂

#

just "I cycle"

worn ember
#

pepega language

steel pulsar
#

the verb for bicycle is 'ride'

#

'ride my bike'

worn ember
#

i'll ride ur mum

void void
#

no u

#

wait what

worn ember
olive garden
#

as I said, he's a bit special

vernal moth
#

I for one walk my bike

worn ember
#

sometimes yah

quasi valley
#

@mini hangar wen

#

oh wow you just opened it

vernal moth
#

I will work on hangar once my beer is complete

#

build a flag last night

#

now it needs a beer

twin lagoon
#

let me hop on and destroy that belgian flag on the map too

worn ember
#

wowow

#

calm down there

#

also i love this [16:57:19 ERROR]: [Essentials] There's a good chance you're reloading your server right now. If that's the case, why do you hate yourself? Expect no support from the EssentialsX team when using /reload.

cunning raft
#

ty my message

#

don't reload your server

#

smh

worn ember
#

but i want to see everything break PepeHands

prime hawk
#

hi guys, women, girls, men, apache helicoptes and @olive garden

olive garden
#

what about girls?

#

and apache attack helicopters?

prime hawk
#

I'm new to paper, and the 1.14.4 release says that 1.14.x is not recommended for large servers. Should I try using the 1.15 release that is supported? Or just stay in 1.14.4 if it's not necessary to change?

cunning raft
#

you should 100% move to 1.15

#

much more stable and faster

prime hawk
#

That's good

#

then maybe I should rush into 1.16?

quasi valley
#

wait for .2 at least

waxen panther
#

.5 at least

prime hawk
#

Thanks for fast replies :3 Btw. somebody told me that all spigot plugins should work on paper, is that true?

quasi valley
#

all sane ones

waxen panther
#

unless they're extremely extremely extremely dumb

steel pulsar
#

(90% of plugins)

prime hawk
#

Thanks so much for your advice. Imma change to paper 1.15 then 😁

waxen panther
#

99%

prime hawk
#

Btw. (the last btw. I promise), should the server use 100% of RAM possible? I'm trying out different JVM arguments and some (from this guide https://aikar.co/2018/07/02/tuning-the-jvm-g1gc-garbage-collector-flags-for-minecraft/ in particular) uses less ram than some others

golden gust
#

"Nah, there is no way a plugin is being that stupid that this change should cause an issue"

waxen panther
#

using most of your ram isn't a bad thing but high ram usage doesn't mean your gc is being efficient

#

just use aikars flagz

golden gust
#

some plugin breaks because instead of using the pretty methods to do something that mojang already does, they hack into some random collection

prime hawk
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Okayyy, sorry for these novice questions btw, but I've been trying to optimise my server for a long time and it's just started working

golden gust
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general gist is to make sure that you leave memory for the OS, etc; But, telling your server to use the ram you've said it can use is good, G1 acts better like that

prime hawk
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Another dumb questions, some plugins have a star next to their name, what does that mean?

latent valve
golden gust
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means that they don't specify that they work with newer versions of bukkit and are basically getting hit with some legacy bytecode hacks

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#ThanksSpigot

quasi valley
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#ThanksMD (that one)

prime hawk
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means that they don't specify that they work with newer versions of bukkit and are basically getting hit with some legacy bytecode hacks
@golden gust Is that bad? Should I remove them?

steel pulsar
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yes its illegal youll go to jail

prime hawk
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yes its illegal youll go to jail
@steel pulsar 😮

steel pulsar
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that was my post, yes

quasi valley
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it's not horrible, but prolly means they haven't been updated since 1.13 / the author doesn't care/know

golden gust
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for many plugins, it's fine

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It's not ideal, but, basically ^

worn ember
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i tested mine for 1.13+ lol if they work on 1.12 and earlier, good for them but i dont care xD

twin lagoon
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it's perfect

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belgium is no more

quasi valley
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belgium is just a french copy cat anyways

twin lagoon
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with shit roads

worn ember
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wow

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what is this racism

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wheres wiz when you need him

twin lagoon
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silence belgian

worn ember
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kaaskop

twin lagoon
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homo

vernal moth
quasi valley
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beautiful 😂

worn pasture
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BEER!

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BRING ME ANOTHER!

minor badge
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im proud of u mini

waxen panther
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that should be the hangar logo

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the bear

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doesn't need to make sense

unkempt drift
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the beer? or a bear

waxen panther
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njsdkmald

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yes

unkempt drift
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how quickly can you replace a title shown to a player?

quasi valley
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instantly

unkempt drift
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could you create a "video" and play it for a player?

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using frames as characters in a font?

quasi valley
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maybe? maybe the client will just die with the font special character spam

worn ember
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how many lines can a title be?

quasi valley
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probably not enough 😂

unkempt drift
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no, I'm saying you display 1 character for a tick, then move to the next

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and you have a resource pack with a font that replaces those characters with frames from a video

worn ember
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20 fps thonkeng

unkempt drift
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yeah, you couldn't get higher than that

quasi valley
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lmao saving every frame into a resourcepack?

unkempt drift
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yeah, it'

quasi valley
unkempt drift
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obv not like 4k frames

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cause then people would have to essentially download a 4k video

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but this would be higher res than the holovid

mighty storm
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morning

quasi valley
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but at what cost

worn ember
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everything

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thats totally how that went right?

quasi valley
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yea the original wasn't perfect enough, needed the question to be slightly different 😂

vernal moth
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need to overlay the youtube vid with network usage 😂

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the amount of json you funnel thru the network for that

quasi valley
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a lot

vernal moth
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also need to move cam a bit to show its not fake 😄

worn ember
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wouldnt it be more efficient on a map?

vernal moth
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it would

quasi valley
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maps aren't rgb

worn ember
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oh right

vernal moth
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but you limited with resolution and color

worn ember
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i forgot they didnt change that

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they will have to soon™️ tho

hazy veldt
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There's a size limit to server resource packs too

quasi valley
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the map encoding will reach its current limit after just about 7-8 new blockcolors anyways, so they'll have to do something, maybe that also includes rgb

vernal moth
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yeah I wonder how they will treat map/material colors in new versions

worn ember
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just rgb everything

vernal moth
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they need to touch the data format

worn ember
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like the gaming industry

vernal moth
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I think ill focus on making hangar serve the frontend first

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so its easier to implement the backend

worn ember
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tbh its easier to make the backend first xD

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then visualize the backend on the frontend

quasi valley
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in his case the frontent is already "done" (for now), so going from what it needs from opening to later pages is prolly easier structure-wise

vernal moth
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basically am procrastinating touching the db

olive marlin
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What do you guys use/recommend for a store?
We're using Tebex (BuyCraft) + PayPal, but both of those annoy me and looking for a sane alternative.
Was thinking of just having some sort of payment provider with the store being in game, but idk if there isn't a better way.

unkempt drift
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You can make your own right? paypal has some support for php scripts that run on a transaction right?

worn ember
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he was asking for "sane"

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you dont want to touch that API with a long stick