<canvas> is PostScript as a JavaScript API
#general
magic river
golden gust
magic river
PDF is PostScript with more structure so you don't have to parse the whole document to render one section
golden gust
wtf is that gif
and it zapped my message, thx dumcord
But, like, ^ adobe annoucning the death of flash
smoky python
I will think of you
golden gust
God, I remember the days of sneaking on whatever flash filled paradise the network filters hadn't caught up with yet
magic river
TIL SVG Tiny is a part of the MMS standard
smoky python
That moment when you had 20 installers of adobe flash player in your download directory
magic river
So any phone that claims to support MMS has to support rendering SVGs
cedar spade
...huh
magic river
It's also required for IMS which is the base spec for VoLTE and RCS
So even if you drop the old stuff and make a phone that only supports the latest IP-based stuff you still need SVG Tiny support
slender jay
is ovh cancelled?
cedar spade
?
golden gust
they're having some network issues rn
cedar spade
oh huh
golden gust
"cancelled" is just... erm... am guessing they read it on twitter or something dum and so, god knows what language twitter folk use
waxen panther
no electric is cool smh
slender jay
twin lagoon
yes thank you we can read what was sent 15 minutes ago
slender jay
looks like literally everything is wrong
cedar spade
yeah no wut how is cancelled the right thing to describe this
limber knotBOT
~so I got myself a new server, any hostname recommendations? xD
magic river
Game of Thrones characters
zealous wedge
ground cover plants
limber knotBOT
I don't want that server to die, Amaranth lol
ashen cliff
abf98as.prod.<domain>.<tld>
Easy to remember. 
limber knotBOT
worn ember
limber knotBOT
I should just name it xkcd910 xD
cedar spade
md-five-is.life
finite wave
cunning raft
gradle is prob an alias for groovy lul
left swift
Name it bobwald
zealous wedge
markdown doesn't "support languages"...
left swift
Long live bobwald
waxen panther
graydeie
pulsar fox
urban depot
Random Q: What does the * next to a plugin in ./plugins mean?
pulsar wigeon
legacy
waxen panther
wizjany*
cedar spade
wiz uses a compatibility layer to ban on modern versions of Discord
formal vigil
Hey! Does anyone know how far apart should 2 portals be to properly work? (One should lead above bedrock and the second one should be normal)
cursive bone
I have a question and not sure where to place it: When i do /tps on some of my servers i see onlt a simple line with 3 values on others i see ticktime and cpu usage etc too ... any one can explain why the diff ?
(prob a setting but no clue which)
magic river
Essentials?
cursive bone
all servers have the same essentials
magic river
Some plugin or config has to be the difference
golden gust
probs spark or something
magic river
Spigot and Paper's /tps command don't show that data
cursive bone
ohhh sparks might be it .... let ,me check 🙂
zzzCat think you nailed it 😉
thank you !
cedar spade
Was gonna say, /tps isn't us
cursive bone
yup verified it is spark 😉
magic river
No
magic river
limber knotBOT
have you heard of the steam summer sale 👀
tight eagle
no?
void void
advertising
clean the chat
left swift
Mods sleeping
real ember
hey guys, is there a way that i can send a /tellraw message as player.chat?
for an example i have this :
[{"text":"t","color":"#0087FF"},{"text":"e","color":"#00AFFF"},{"text":"s","color":"#00D7D7"},{"text":"t","color":"#00FFAF"}]
the result is the word test's letters got different color
i want to make this result as sent to chat by player
is there a way to do that?
(sorry for my broken English 😭 )
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Commands/execute -- Commands/execute – Official Minecraft Wiki: "Modify subcommands modify command variables and change the situation the command is executed, and execute subcommands following it with specific ..."
zealous wedge
you can wrap it in the TranslatableComponent that is used for chat
but at the moment there's no way you can get that to be processed by a chat plugin
because bukkit is broken
olive marlin
Since they mentioned tellraw, I assume they don't write a plugin, but want to do it from console or something.
zealous wedge
yeah, but the part about having it processed by chat plugins still applies
translatable components can be specified in json
real ember
thanks for answering
actually im making a plugin with command that takes the text and process them with colors, then make them send by the player
😁
cause right now the only way i know to make rgb in chat is with tellraw, so i coded a generator with C language. The result is good but i have no idea if im able to use it in my plugin (taking the tellraw result and make it send by player)
magic river
If you can use legacy formatting you could probably use player.chat(message)
RGB in legacy is a server thing, not a MC thing, but it does work
§x§f§f§0§0§f§3
real ember
RGB in legacy is a server thing, not a MC thing, but it does work
@magic river yes this is the way i used before 1.16 with default minecraft colors, it works great but not sure if im able to do that with rgb. sadly 😂
magic river
x followed by the RGB with a section sign before each
cunning raft
ye
magic river
Yep
real ember
then use player.chat() to send it out?
cunning raft
however
magic river
Should work
real ember
jesus christ im trying that right now. thank you so much :DDD
alright it actually works
this is amazing :DDD
olive marlin
It's stupid on how it was made - but it works.
I think minimessage supports the #00FF00 syntax, if you want to use it.
real ember
i will check that out too. thanks 😄
tame pendant
essentialsxchat works too
sterile shard
I need help
tame pendant
.ask
limber knotBOT
If you have a question, please just ask it. Don't look for staff or topic experts. Don't ask to ask or ask if people are awake or available. Just ask the question to the channel straight out, and wait patiently for a reply.
ashen cliff
Nonsense my brother, join me in prayer.
🙏
quasi valley
smoky python
Damn, I thought I knew most of the stuff of bad things Songado did
But I was clearly wrong
wtf
gleaming rivet
what does everyone do when taking backups? do you shut down the server while running ur script?
smoky python
Well its old but still
gleaming rivet
i've just heard it will corrupt files, if you tar it while running?
potent fossil
just turn off auto saving...
unreal quarry
always shutdown
ashen cliff
fsync.
gleaming rivet
does auto saving do anything in paper when its async?
unreal quarry
even with disabling autosave, plugins will still save their own stuff, which compromises the backup being made
gleaming rivet
well fuck plugins
potent fossil
save-off
save-all
do ur backup
save-on
gleaming rivet
i just care about my world
twin lagoon
sqlite
gleaming rivet
yeah sqlite databases is dumb
ashen cliff
Sqlite
quasi valley
inb4 worldmanagement plugin
potent fossil
well thats because CoreProtect is fucking ass
unreal quarry
dont focus on the sqlite part, guys.. its relevant for any plugin doing any kind of i/o
potent fossil
and no one can deny it because it's closed source
unreal quarry
smfh
zealous wedge
imagine following the gpl...
unreal quarry
nothing is as safe as shutting down to make backups
cunning raft
"our code isn't open source because it looks messy" 
zealous wedge
yet essentials continues to be open source
cunning raft
zealous wedge
and has been oss this whole time
potent fossil
if you can shut down, do it. if you can't, turn off autosaving at least to prevent world corruption
ashen cliff
Just don't have backups.
potent fossil
there are two types of people
those that take backups
and those that dont lose data
kindred storm
i recommended shutting down as well
it's tempting to run the backup while the server is in progress
ashen cliff
Just run your servers on mysqlfs, then copy the table to backup.
gleaming rivet
what do y'all do, not what you recommend but what do you guys actually do.
twin lagoon
rsnapshot
cunning raft
nothing
limber knotBOT
rsnapshot
quasi valley
ctrl+c in windows
twin lagoon
either rsnapshot or a basic backup script which just compresses your server into a .tar.zst
potent fossil
id hope ppl are doing what they recommend
kindred storm
use a bash script
unreal quarry
pfft. i just copy my entire directory to a separate drive lol
i dont do it often, though..
gleaming rivet
while the server is running?!
quasi valley
?!?!?!?!
unreal quarry
did you just join this convo?
gleaming rivet
rip your sqlite databases
unreal quarry
i've stated many times in the past 5 minutes to always shutdown for backups..
ashen cliff
Woah.
gleaming rivet
why are they stupid?
twin lagoon
^
why are they stupid?
0 indication of anything
systemd is quite nice
i can just systemctl status the service
i can use systemctl list-timers to find out when the next one runs
ashen cliff
Systemd is like CMI.
twin lagoon
it's not
you'd be the type of person who uses gentoo w/ sysvinit because oh no systemd linux bad
:((((((((((((((((
ashen cliff
Systemd bad.
kindred storm
CMI the plugin
serene bolt
Certified Mechanical Inspector, yeah, that definition
twin lagoon
systemd does too much rip!
kindred storm
CMI is 👎
gleaming rivet
but what is CMI? xDD
twin lagoon
CMI is some garbage essentials plugin
kindred storm
big premium plugin claiming to replace essentials
gleaming rivet
i don't even use essentials so that plugin is just more yikes for me
twin lagoon
the systemd cmi reference is because there's a lot of controversy behind systemd
people find systemd to do too many things on linux
kindred storm
has tons of bugs, unfixed issues, author prioritises new shiny features over bugfixes. At least it seems, I've never used it
twin lagoon
when it should only be an init system according to them
serene bolt
it can do everything! while achieving the quality of nothing!
unique quail
is there a way to know how stable a paper version currently is?
kindred storm
cmi and systemd are really incomparable
twin lagoon
by running it
cedar spade
Try it on a test server
twin lagoon
@kindred storm i mean i can see why they'd compare it
kindred storm
some people may not like systemd, but it is just way beyond CMI
cedar spade
at least systemd is free and FOSS
kindred storm
systemd is debatable, CMI far less so
tame pendant
gleaming rivet
so crontab is fine?
twin lagoon
both crontabs and systemd timers are good methods of doing things
tame pendant
XD
twin lagoon
How does systemd have anything to do with CMI?
ashen cliff
Crontab is fine, but a pain to debug in some cases.
twin lagoon
"both of them do too much"
fallen oracle
Ahh.
cedar spade
Someone made a comparison between them and now everyone's arguing over whether the comparison is a fair one to make or not
twin lagoon
Crontab is fine, but a pain to debug in some cases.
which is why systemd timers are nice
ashen cliff
IF you have them enabled and you actually add debug to your script.
kindred storm
everyone's arguing
twin lagoon
it has cron-like syntax aswell
kindred storm
an overstatement
gleaming rivet
i don't think i need to debug it anyway
twin lagoon
gleaming rivet
ty ^^
ashen cliff
Then it doesn't run the tar command as you need to specify the full path.
gleaming rivet
can't it just be -R ?
pulsar fox
Except the difference with systemd vs CMI, is people look at systemd as this monolith, but it's not at all. Each independent feature is it's own project with it's own team, they just exist under a singular name space. CMI on the other hand is one guy hacking together MVP's of shit from other plugins 
ashen cliff
Never said it was bad.
Well. Yes but no.
On older versions of Debian, you could just throw anything at it, new versions... have fun.
pulsar fox
systemd-homed is dope
cedar spade
fun fact: CMI started off as a /invsee replacement, then just accidentally feature creeped its way to becoming Essentials and more
ashen cliff
Really depends on how the OS is configured.
ashen cliff
CMI + SkinsRestorer.
Best combo.
quasi valley
- TAB
twin lagoon
- AuthMe
pulsar fox
Ye it was originally "Check My Inventory" now it's "Content Management Interface" which still doesn't make any sense as a name lol
twin lagoon
- <scuffed anticheat here>
ashen cliff
AuthMe actually doesn't auto update unlike SkinsRestorer.
cedar spade
60k+ servers across the world are bad
quasi valley
especially our own one, md
cunning raft
#1 god damn plugin 
cedar spade
ah yes the EssentialsX/Maintenance/ViaVersion test server my server
cunning raft
i did barty~!!!!!
tawdry sapphire
does this link https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/plotsquared-v5.77506/ work for 1.16.1?
cunning raft
1.13+
potent fossil
yes @tawdry sapphire
tawdry sapphire
tHANKS!
potent fossil
@heady spear wait does psv5 have 1.16 support 
cedar spade
What for, usage messages?
potent fossil
ok then i was right
pulsar fox
I like your style, check if your right after you say something factually
potent fossil
yes
cedar spade
pop might have a script to copy them over like his PR did, idk
pulsar fox
you should go into politics
potent fossil
i was fully prepared to retract my answer
ashen cliff
And never check or retract.
potent fossil
how do you know im not already in politics
cedar spade
fyi you can drop any strings that are the same as default and they'll get loaded from the EssX jar
fallen oracle
Yes
zealous wedge
well you can use the section sign :p
cedar spade
You can put the section sign straight into the properties files now
fallen oracle
Like months ago.
MD came in cluthc.
Actually morel ike am onth ago
I can't talk
serene bolt
EssX with all the QOL changes lately, gg
quasi valley
essx paper only wen
fallen oracle
™️
pulsar fox
rtp merged when
unreal quarry
hoooly shit! i just went snooping aroung my kitchen for snacky shit and found a box of 72 fruit rollups my wife had hidden from the kids 😮
serene bolt
that's a lot of snackage
cedar spade
(though seriously we probably will refactor messages to support adventure and minimessage soon)
fallen oracle
Are you included in "the kids"?
void void
if you were a kid that would be epic
spice finch
you can tell your wife that kids have found it
fallen oracle
Billy, you can soon have movie night with your wife in-game. 
Fruit rollups and minecraft kinda night.
foggy elbow
Hello,
So after a week, did someone test really well the 1.16 compared to 1.15 and can tell about the performances (and maybe compare to 1.12) ? :)
(it's easier to get other's player review before doing my own testing)
twin lagoon
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
cedar spade
1058
vernal moth
Mojang never listens ;)
fallen oracle
is punching the air right now
foggy elbow
Slime blocks can only push entities 5 blocks high instead of 6 blocks high as in 1.15.2
twin lagoon
amazing
unreal quarry
MC-183743 - Iron golem overpopulation 😮
limber knotBOT
updating in the first month 👀
foggy elbow
TECHNICAL CHANGES IN 20W27A
Small improvements............................... to data and resource pack selection screens
😦
void void
i updated cos its like a server for a few friends
foggy elbow
1.8.2 >>>>
limber knotBOT
1.16.61
foggy elbow
maybe the 1.20 will perform better than 1.12 lmao
limber knotBOT
but 1.16.9 will always be the best ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
foggy elbow
in term of performances, 1.16 is same as 1.15 ?
unreal quarry
ok, i should stop eating fruit rollsups... 10 seems to be pushing it, even for a grown ass man
potent fossil
cedar spade
Is now the appropriate time to admit I don't think I've ever eaten a fruit rollup?
void void
they're not that good
cedar spade
Okay good
unreal quarry
come on billy!
ok, 1 more, for good meassure
potent fossil
take it slow for god's sake
limber knotBOT
so, uh, what are release candidates for if they don't fix game breaking bugs like this: https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC-190849 Oo
cedar spade
Breaking Realms
pulsar fox
can't help but notice none of the chunk conversion issues were fixed
pulsar fox
ship it
cunning raft
i imagine they'll do a rc
twin lagoon
guys paper snapshot eta?
cunning raft
16 minutes
limber knotBOT
cheap asses can't pay for proper servers
waxen panther
slim nymph
i tell helen to poke the devs non stop until they fix the head bug. and the bug gets fixed. so she must of actually did it, held the devs at finger point
neat smelt
2gb ram on 1.16.1 with 500 players on it
tbh, to idiots like this i'll just tell them yes
left swift
"Y my server use my ram that I assign it? Is dis bukkit bug?"
"Ram is full help"
"Why only 20 tps not 1000 tps"
Just give it more tps
1000 is more than 20 so that means its better
olive marlin
Why does almost all plugins need to be retarded? Why is it so damn hard to find a plugin to use, without writing your own?
There's just so many things wrong with this: https://github.com/JoelGodOfwar/MoreMobHeads/blob/master/1.14/MoreMobHeads/src/com/github/joelgodofwar/mmh/MoreMobHeads.java
Requests on main thread on join for every player.
if(p.getDisplayName().equals("JoelYahwehOfWar")||p.getDisplayName().equals("JoelGodOfWar")){
p.sendMessage(this.getName() + " " + this.getDescription().getVersion() + " Hello father!");
//p.sendMessage("seed=" + p.getWorld().getSeed());
}
...
kindred storm
...
waxen panther
serene bolt
lmao the commented out seed
neat smelt
@void void ticks are usefull for 1.8 pvp 
olive marlin
Ikr.
And always do request - then check if player is OP and if you should even use the response.
Log messages with line numbers - which are out of sync by 300 lines lol
It looked soo good - until I looked at the code.
kindred storm
@EventHandler
public void onJoin(PlayerJoinEvent evt) {
Bukkit.getScheduler().runTaskAsync(() -> {
if (evt.getPlayer().getName().equals("ownername") {
evt.getPlayer().sendMessage("hi me"
seen that so many times
olive marlin
I just realized - he is not even using git, he just straight up creates commits by uploading all files manually through the WebUI lol
waxen panther
How do you know
olive marlin
I mean:
waxen panther
Nah he’s just using a shitty git client most likely
olive marlin
Add files via upload
I believe that's the default message when you add files through the UI.
limber knotBOT
yeah
waxen panther
Also the default on the GitHub windows program and kitkraken I think
limber knotBOT
but the github client might just be the shitty website
waxen panther
quick pasture
austere ivy
found you out in the wild @fallen oracle https://github.com/ipsk/minecraft-chat-video
I saw it on reddit and I clicked on the source code and there popped up your name ;p
heady spear
austere ivy
is this some drama, City?
heady spear
where on reddit is this thread?
austere ivy
https://old.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/hjenmb/a_friend_and_i_made_a_project_that_allows_you_to/
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) A friend and I made a project that allows you to play movies in-game! : Minecraft - 6 comments, 39 points - LichtHund1, 22m ago
rose lion
👀
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) A friend and I made a project that allows you to play movies in-game! : Minecraft - 6 comments, 38 points - LichtHund1, 22m ago
austere ivy
it's strange seeing you guys' names pop up from time to time, everyone in the mc community knows eachother.
true canyon
Is that chat log real? That would make songoda even more naive than I thought.
heady spear
but yeah regarding the screenshot, idk how legit it is
It was sent to me by a person I'd like to trust tho
he used to be a songoda creator but yeeted the fuck out
true canyon
Good call
austere ivy
Matt how long of files can it support? That's super cool
rose lion
Maximum we've gotten so far was around 10 minutes of video without crashing
austere ivy
is it all stored in memory?
rose lion
Yeah
pulsar wigeon
oh, thought it was like command block shit
rose lion
Can't go much higher in resolution though, it lags both the server and the client
heady spear
im gonna send the screenshot to brianna and ask her about it
austere ivy
I think it's incredible what's shown in the reddit thread isn't lagging the client, the fact that it's real time is super cool
Are you planning on releasing it on Spigot?
rose lion
We don't know what to do with it yet, since it's so heavy it needs lots of optimizations first
austere ivy
well, that's really creative and unique, amazing use of the new rgb chat colors. Sethbling made a real-time display a while ago (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMH3wLuR9f0) but it was limited to the block colors since of course rgb color didn't exist then.
stiff yarrow
@heady spear the funny part is a plugin being on a leak site like BS doesn't affect sales at all
austere ivy
I'm excited to see what you do with it, cool project!
heady spear
She said she wouldn't trust someone who owns a leak site
heady spear
Indeed it isn't
austere ivy
it's just a gained audience, right?
heady spear
that's why PlotSquared is open sourced
and we're still making quite significant sales
stiff yarrow
heady spear
Right, but people still have access to it for free.
but it's available on leak sites anyway because apparently people are too dumb to run the gradle build script
heady spear
but if people buy plugins that are available for free, I don't see why they wouldn't buy plugins that are available as leaks
if you're going onto leak sites, you were never going to buy it in the first place
stiff yarrow
tbh you probably gain sales from having it on leak sites, more exposure
kindred storm
do you think it would make sense, if one was to publish an open-source premium plugin, to simultaneously post it to blackspigot? just for the fun of it?
fallen oracle
Oh hey, yeah, that's me!
stiff yarrow
if bri actually paid 200 a month to him that's pretty facepalmy
stiff yarrow
I was posting mcMMO to BS regularly but then the site was 404'd forever and I forgot it existed
kindred storm
haha
fallen oracle
Simple, I think I can already do that.
potent fossil
slim nymph
Why do you even talk to her
heady spear
I wanted to hear her side of it
also can ppl that say dumb shit about her looks, sexuality etc like idk, not? 👀 I've seen quite a lot of it, and it's gross
slender jay
She'll just deny/lie
potent fossil
define dumb shit
heady spear
going in her discord saying transphobic shit is so far across the line that it's absurd
potent fossil
oh idk who is doing that but i agree
void void
who knew, turns out that if you @ everyone in a discord server with 35k members, who whole thing crashes
wide chasm
Ugh, there's a snapshot
outer raptor
rose echo
@void void SalC1's Discord?
void void
yeah
rose echo
void void
that thing crashed discord as well
hushed pebble
Does someone know how to set multiple alias for a command in essentialsX command cooldown ?
fallen oracle
😮 the post made it to Minecraft's /r/hot thing, or whatever it is. The like "hot posts" from the past few hours I think is the right way to say it?
Someone called it fake and then apologized. 
quasi valley
of course fabric's k9 is down right now 
void void
noo meh fabric doggo
cunning raft
yo @serene bolt can you get rid of this https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/skript.80915/ or should i report it
pulsar wigeon
going in her discord saying transphobic shit is so far across the line that it's absurd
yea i absolutely don't care for any of the shit she does but when i see sexual/objectifying/transphobic/etc comments in here i shut that shit down
you can call her a scummy person without that shit
serene bolt
@cunning raft done
cunning raft
ty ty
worn ember
What
pulsar wigeon
bruh i fucking screenshotted the banner at time of report
and included it in the report lmao
worn ember
Was it a script re-upload?
pulsar wigeon
smh dum mods amirite
cunning raft
somebody uploaded the plugin skript again
skript doesn't maintain a spigot page
yet
worn ember
Lmao
latent valve
cunning raft
that attitude is why there isn't one yet lmao
worn ember
I'm sure that guy thought he was big brain
cunning raft
that has happened like 5 times now lol
wide chasm
Same wiz, also reported two resources, nope denied
pulsar wigeon
wait are just random people uploading skript as a resource?
ashen cliff
I remember when someone posted OTG and credited the BS people as devs on the project.
pulsar wigeon
^LOL
cunning raft
yes wiz lol
serene bolt
yeah people keep reuploading skript for no reason, that's the 2nd time i've seen it this week
pulsar wigeon
hangar can't come soon enough 👀
shut marten
Hangar..?
quasi valley
I'll spare mini from a second ping today
waxen panther
Mods r so dumb
quasi valley
but tomorrow
pulsar wigeon
glad we're (enginehub) sticking on dbo tho
waxen panther
I (broccolai) agree
pulsar wigeon
can't imagine the additional bullshit if WE/WG were on spigot
worn ember
We (me) yes
quasi valley
but you'll upload it to hangar as well then, eh? :p
void void
I (Nirvana) ||booo||
pulsar wigeon
i'd be up for it
quasi valley
awesome
pulsar wigeon
depending on if/when hangar becomes a thing
also depending on if i need to fucking gpg sign the jar
luckily ore got rid of that requirement at some point
quasi valley
yeah just gotta ping mini enough times this week, and if enough of the biggies go over it can't go too wrong
pulsar wigeon
yeah just gotta ping mini enough times this week, and if enough of the biggies g...
let it be noted that knenwald television n believes nothing can go wrong with hangar
quasi valley
oh no
pulsar wigeon
:^)
pulsar wigeon
now we all know who to blame when it blows up
void void
and just in case kneny deletes it
pulsar wigeon
mini isn't it family dinner time for you
unreal quarry
its keeping the name hangar? i was so hoping for ream :3
vernal moth
But I'll go to sleep early and see what I can do tomorrow
pulsar wigeon
what time is it like 7-8 pm now?
vernal moth
9
worn ember
9...
vernal moth
Am back home already
worn ember
Big dum wiz smh
cunning raft
hey uh @serene bolt i got 2 more resources for ya and you'll know why 
https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/80914/
https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/80913/
look at dl links
pulsar wigeon
forgot it goes up to 6 hours. daylight savings dum
15 "hour" flights to germany as a kid were interesting
worn ember
Yeah. They getting rid of it in 2021
vernal moth
Since zm_l fixed the tests/travis on MiniMessage for me, I can do stuff tomorrow ^^
fallen oracle
Bruh
vernal moth
Altho I also need to write docs for MiniMessage, but oh well
serene bolt
lmao what the shit Jroy, why would anyone do this
worn ember
No more daylight savings
worn ember
Europe i think
pulsar wigeon
oh nice
ashen cliff
The need for time has expired.
We will now revert back to 3 dimensions.
pulsar wigeon
so still just USA gonna be doing dumb shit for forever
worn ember
Not sure if it's going through. But it was on the table at some point
pulsar wigeon
*except arizona
void void
makes sense
vernal moth
EU is trying to get rid of it
But then corona came, so not this time
There's also the big argument about which time we adopt 😂
wide chasm
On one hand I want it gone, on the other hand everything will break again 😦
worn ember
Yeah
serene bolt
900 iq, report your own resource for "I'm sorry for uploading this" so you don't get punished... yeah that doesn't work
wide chasm
lol
cunning raft
did they honestly 
worn ember
Good time to be a dev. Lots of software to fix cx
void void
haha
wide chasm
Do you know how annoying it is to work with date/time though
worn ember
Yeah true
void void
man my hamster is really peeing on me today
worn ember
Wtf
void void
must be her age
wide chasm
Puberity hit /s
worn ember
Ur hamster be busting nuts
void void
thing is today my parrots also been crapping on me
worn ember
Nasty
void void
how long until my dog craps on me
unreal quarry
fuck timezones.. i thought we all decided on pigeon poops
void void
ah yeah that
UPPS time
Universal Pigeon Pooping Speed
shame that we didn't have the funding to mass distribute special pigeons
to 7 billion people
ashen cliff
We did use corona to silently replace the batteries tho.
void void
we rise slowly
wide chasm
we poop slowly
void void
like my parrot!
worn ember
ashen cliff
Instant discharge.
void void
i should keep a log of how many times a pet crapped on me every day
maybe theres a pattern
wide chasm
We should make date time libs for UPPS for major languages and try to get them into the standard lib just for fun.
pulsar wigeon
kek
pulsar wigeon
same tbh
twin lagoon
BanBartyGamer
serene bolt
dusk drift
twin lagoon
bye barty
pulsar wigeon
what am i an ad for even
twin lagoon
ok he did not get banned nvm
cedar spade
bans
waxen panther
You are
cedar spade
the ban lobby is
pulsar wigeon
i fukin wish brocc
twin lagoon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oG4UTlL8I0M this video speaks to me
unreal quarry
sometimes insults dont have to make sense.
your mom goes to college
pulsar wigeon
discord's moderation features suck so i guess?
pulsar wigeon
unreal quarry
is sad no one caught his reference
worn ember
i'd bully wiz but he doesnt fight fair 
pulsar wigeon
are you just referencing barty's childish jokes or something
wide chasm
You need special ranks to bully wiz safely.
pulsar wigeon
oh, that's an actual quote from something i guess
worn ember
i thought we were all for equality stef smh
void void
so i need a rank, what if the rank is on a different discord
wide chasm
You clearly haven't seen the hierarchial structure here Dark
unreal quarry
we've quoted that a million times its like embeded into our regular vocabulary :3
void void
alright now i need to find a discord server where i have higher rank than moderator
damn it
worn ember
make ur own
unreal quarry
^
void void
good point
waxen panther
I need a better rank 
pulsar wigeon
better watch out or you'll get no reactions rank again :^)
waxen panther
No thank you
worn ember
making a bug report/feature request on your own repo and adding the "will add" label 
waxen panther
I’ll make it my life goal to become a project Dev and be able to ping you without you being able to kick me
With my brain power it’ll probably happen in 2085
cunning raft
wiz would have banned you by then
void void
there we go
worn ember
same
quasi valley
ur all scrubs
void void
how? i thought i was all mighty god
quasi valley
you're an almighty scrub
wide chasm
Kenny you're a scrub and your code sucks
quasi valley
wow stef so mean today
void void
wow 
such drama queen today
quasi valley
today?
void void
can't argue with that
rare herald
@unreal quarry Would a "/co consumer pause|resume" console command be useful? Not hard to implement, and could safely make a backup of the SQLite database.db file while writing is paused.
hollow moss
Does anyone have any suggestions on how to hot reload plugins during dev?
void void
/reload
rare herald
https://bukkit.gamepedia.com/Plugin_debugging if you mean debugging
hollow moss
@rare herald nah, something like JRebel
iron zephyr
Don't want to dedicate a bungee server or even world to parkour, just as a side minigame
hollow moss
but jrebel is apparently no longer free for non profit
pulsar wigeon
standard hotswap is good enough for most things tbh
if you need to be able to add/remove methods and such, use dcevm
hollow moss
what is standard hotswap
pulsar wigeon
you don't even know what jrebel is do you
lol
you realize hotswapping is a part of the jdk itself right
projects just jrebel and dcevm just add functionality to the process
hollow moss
you don't even know what jrebel is do you
well damn, that's a pretty hefty assumption
did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed
heady spear
here we go
rare herald
😬
pulsar wigeon
i've been recommending epsilon for ages
can't believe people are finally catching on
ashen cliff
Really interested in how long my 122TB setup would hold up with EpsilonGC.
pulsar wigeon
don't forget to allocate 122TB of ram as well so you don't run out
^^
no swap is slow
gc is also slow
viral hornet
one day you will have your table taken again, @rare herald
rare herald
If you use ShenandoahGC, you can set -XX:ShenandoahAllocationThreshold=#: Set percentage of memory allocated since last GC cycle before starting another one and set it to 100 to only run a GC when you've utilized all your memory
Note that I'm not actually recommending this lol
ashen cliff
Just use ZGC.
waxen panther
krusic i stg everytime i see you send a message it's about zgc
hollow moss
when you meant hot swapping
rare herald
RIP
autumn fable
rip
hollow moss
wha
ashen cliff
The only thing in afterlife is ZGC.
hollow moss
aight
pulsar wigeon
guess you can't expect someone who can't even google "hotswap" to be able to read rules ¯_(ツ)_/¯
or who somehow thinks that intellij's debug tools are the jdk
hollow moss
i mean was i not allowed to direct ping you if i was engaged with a conversation with you
hollow moss
and that's not what i said
waxen panther
also if you're engaged with a conversation with someone, they're probably already reading chat
hollow moss
i don't know what's up with the passive aggressiveness man, i'm just a beginner and wanted to learn more
waxen panther
the internet
hollow moss
i took a few minutes to reply
pulsar wigeon
no one is being passive aggressive
hollow moss
oh so this is how you normally talk to people?
pulsar wigeon
i'm pointing out obvious places where you seem to be misunderstanding what certain things mean
hollow moss
you must be fun at parties then
pulsar wigeon
you can go read up on them if you actually want to learn
worn ember
can confirm thats how he always talks
pulsar wigeon
i'm not here to explain what hotswapping is
hollow moss
you misunderstood what i meant when i asked is that what you meant by hot swapping
i was asking if you meant to use the intellij debugging tool to hot swap plugins onto a server because i found a wiki doc explaining that
though im not exactly sure if i'm allowed to link it here
pulsar wigeon
couldn't care less what you use to do it tbh, it doesn't change the fact that hotswapping isn't something jrebel came up with
pulsar wigeon
i mean, even if you were to use jrebel you're gonna be using the plugin through your IDE anyway
hollow moss
all i said was if there was something i could use to do it with similar to jrebel
pulsar wigeon
yes, and i said just use normal hotswapping
hollow moss
right, so I looked up normal hot swapping spigot plugins
and I found an article explaining you use the intellij debugging tools to do this
I was asking if that's what you meant by use normal hotswapping
pulsar wigeon
i didn't specifically recommend IJ at the time so not sure why that's relevant
(though i would use IJ anyway - but the question was originally about the hotswapping agent not the IDE)
waxen panther
😃
hollow moss
well it's the IDE I use, I was trying to find a specific tutorial for my IDE
my question was if there was any technology similar to something like JRebel I could use to hot reload plugins
pulsar wigeon
i know what the question was
unreal quarry
@unreal quarry Would a "/co consumer pause|resume" console command be useful? Not hard to implement, and could safely make a backup of the SQLite database.db file while writing is paused.
@rare herald I've gotten used to shutting down for backups, but I'm sure that'd help out a lot of others ^_^
pulsar wigeon
that's why i've answered it three times now
hollow moss
shit man, alright
I appreciate the answer to the question
I hope your day gets better
limber knotBOT
that's what plugin configs are for though
rare herald
Is there actually an API method for that? Never even looked
limber knotBOT
pretty sure there is, yeah
but spamming the memory with tons of log data etc is pretty dumb
I wonder, does the server just eventually crash when you have world saving turned off and load tons of chunks?
or does it just throw away the changes made while saving is off
rare herald
Hmm there's an isAutoSave()... but that would never even return true on my own server lmao
So yeah, can't really rely on that
limber knotBOT
paper spreads it
well, even minecraft does nowadays
it's only forced to run instantly when you run /save-all flush
pulsar fox
ez solution is just use plugins that support storing to <insert favorite stand-alone data store here> and use whatever hot backup utility said data store supports
tawdry sapphire
anyone know any good Minecraft server hosting?
azure thorn
anyone have successful break a bedrock in paper 1.16.1 ?? i tried so many times and so many design. neverworks
waxen panther
?
waxen panther
why tf would you want to break bedrock in survival ??
and why would paper allow a bug like that, if it existed, to stay?
tawdry sapphire
it's fun!
azure thorn
going to nether cieling
void void
nether roof
waxen panther
dumb
void void
for farms
kindred storm
tawdry sapphire
a nasty one btw
kindred storm
humans are vegetables
waxen panther
Haven't tried, they're normally the ones eating me
azure thorn
when you asked nicely but got replied with toxic 🙂
tawdry sapphire
I have something to say, is Server.pro an actual good hosting for mc server? I'm debating on which on to get. What makes each diff hosting for mc server diff?
kindred storm
tawdry sapphire
LOL
kindred storm
you have to be kidding
tawdry sapphire
lmao
kindred storm
shared hosting in general is ...
waxen panther
I mean paper tries to patch vanilla bugs... so if someone had a way to break bedrock they'd (hopefully) report it
kindred storm
but server.pro is ...
kindred storm
"pro"
tawdry sapphire
okay, why do you say it's bad?
I need your input
it's actually in the 29th search filter
took some digging
kindred storm
the real question is why you would think a company that does massive overselling is good
took some digging
no
tawdry sapphire
I didn't say it's good, I said is it even good"?
kindred storm
it's pretty common
olive marlin
@azure thorn #paper-help pinned messages.
tawdry sapphire
common you say? huh, took a while for me to find that shit
okay Mr. SMarty pants which one do you recommend then?
kindred storm
google search results differ for everyone
tawdry sapphire
why not?
kindred storm
okay Mr. SMarty pants which one do you recommend then?
not a shared host, that is
tawdry sapphire
lmao
olive marlin
If you really want shared host - check reviews in r/admincraft.
pulsar fox
Basically any shared or "minecraft" host are pretty shit tier
tawdry sapphire
just wanted yall inputs that's all
void void
brilliant servers™️
kindred storm
i mean if you are just playing with your friends, getting a cheap shared host will suit you fine
even if it's hugely oversold
idk what its prices are tbh
void void
it's not cheap. it's free
tawdry sapphire
lmao
void void
wait wrong hoster
tawdry sapphire
god dam
yea the server im running won't even last
hell to the naw
AMD???
someone please pull the trigger
pulsar fox
^
tawdry sapphire
meh
serene bolt
you're like 5 years late to the "hate AMD" train
latent valve
unreal quarry
Same, quantum. Don't let these nerds change you ;)
tawdry sapphire
_<
pulsar fox
TFW I grew up in an age where only 1337 kids with dope gamer rigs had AMD
kindred storm
i never understood the CPU holy wars. sure, there are pros and cons, and it's good to discuss them. but often people just suggest the one they like, regardless.
tawdry sapphire
you can say that again.
unreal quarry
hugs his overclocked 7700k that gives him a solid 20tps and < 10mspt with all settings maxed
dusk drift
with one player
ashen cliff
No tick.
serene bolt
i don't play on servers that don't have 128 chunk view distance, i want to see border to border 
latent valve
unreal quarry
That'd make for a shitty time, barty
serene bolt
was it 32 real or no tick view distance? that's crazy
unreal quarry
Real. This was before notick
serene bolt
damn
ashen cliff
L a g m a c h i n e s
latent valve
Didnt u also have default mobcap and activationrange 128?
Billy
ashen cliff
Well, if we pushed view distance above 16 we would run into network issues, but not on our side.
unreal quarry
from what i've seen, the server doesnt actually push all 32 view distance worth of chunks to players that have their view distance lower
i've heard otherwise, but my bandwidth disagrees with those folk ¯_(ツ)_/¯
latent valve
🤔
unreal quarry
another one of those mysteries, like how people keep telling me tcp prevent the keepalive packet from getting lost, but my alternative keepalive patch says otherwise lol
i also kinda dont follow all these dumb "optimization guides" and just fix laggy things that pop up on a case by case basis
finite wave
I only follow aikar flags
unreal quarry
and i kinda fork many popular plugins to optimize them as well, like this example where i get dynmap out of legacy compat mode https://github.com/BillyGalbreath/dynmap/commit/7573760706655accfe3a83b28bffedfe4e93465a
i dont even follow aikar flags :3
finite wave
Noob
unreal quarry
i use zgc, which he strongly discourages lol
finite wave
Plugins
void void
i have concluded that billy's server is being fed something very strange
ashen cliff
I heard ZGC.
kindred crater
Is 1.16 paper safe for production use yet?
ashen cliff
Nyes.
pulsar fox
Yno.
serene bolt
probably, just take backups of your server and do your own testing
cedar spade
more essx quality of life updates coming your way
(courtesy of everyone except me lol)
olive marlin
Better beezooka?
fallen oracle
Nah, we're adding in /peashooterpiglin
serene bolt
RTP is probably the thing I'm most excited for in EssX, pop seems to have done a great job at implementing that and making it speedy and smart
cedar spade
ye he went to a lot of effort to do a good implementation for it, I wouldn't have thought of half of what he implemented lol
primal steppe
sorry if this is the wrong place to ask.
Masa's Tweakeroo mod allows you to place directional blocks facing away or to the side relative to you. Making redstone building easier. Sadly this is a fabric mod so I can't put it on my server without changing from Paper to Fabric, but Paper is just too marvelous to do that. Is anyone here aware of a plugin that allows the same trick?
or even datapack?
acoustic seal
Whats often a good plugin for exchanging Items for eco and vice versa?
Ideally with an NPC of some description either Citizens or Villager
clear temple
Awesome. Badlion client uses my 3D render as their advertisement...
WITHOUT CREDIT
twin lagoon
msg them / tweet them
unreal quarry
DMCA them
clear temple
No reply yet.
twin lagoon
or that
pulsar wigeon
DMCA them
clear temple
I'll do that.
twin lagoon
it's modified to have teeth
clear temple
texture is mojangs with some minor tweaking
pulsar wigeon
(haven't actual seen the real one)
twin lagoon
i don't think you should DMCA or waste your time tbh
there's barely any difference from mojang's
clear temple
true
serene bolt
you can message them and tell them about it but I think DMCA is a bit much, don't be one of those guys
void void
i'd message them and say gib credit and $50
pulsar fox
@acoustic seal dtlTraders?
acoustic seal
Hmm I'll try it. Running 1.7.10 so 😄
pulsar fox
oof, yea good luck lol
void void
Z
unreal quarry
wait. so you're mad someone made minor tweaks to an image you took from someone else and made minor tweaks to?
acoustic seal
Oh there appears to be a 1.7.9 ver on bukkit dl
void void
see my status
pulsar fox
I don't think he ever said he was "mad" but it's kind of a dick thing to do on badlions part
clear temple
Actually the 3D render and 3D model is by me and they used render without permission
static badge
pvp style things in general are sketch as fuck, not surprised :>
clear temple
yep
crystal compass
Other survival server owners; do you allow items with enchants higher than vanilla?
Im afraid i've made a mistake by making ways to get armor with enchant levels 10-30
making my server way too overpowered
serene bolt
I think the highest item I'm aware of is like a sharpness X book I gave away for some event or something, but level 30 armor........... that's uh, a bit much
potent fossil
you gotta to debuff it if you're going to raise enchantment levels to be unsafe (what the game calls them)
crystal compass
Hm
potent fossil
smh
crystal compass
Yeah I fear I may have made the server too op/too easy, by putting some of those items in
people could save up their money, buy gems, buy these items from my gemshop plugin.
serene bolt
if you haven't raised the difficulty of the vanilla game in any significant way, then you definitely have
crystal compass
hm
potent fossil
just get a plugin that lets you debuff ench levels by applying a damage reduction multiplier
ez
crystal compass
Well my server is a towny, economy type server.
potent fossil
it would need to be custom
you wouldnt have to take items away from anybody
you'd just be adjusting values
potent fossil
i mean, mine is basically listening to attack vents and manually reducing damage based on ench level of item in use
so...ye
serene bolt
simples using the 900 iq route, because it's an invisible nerf and fixes your mess up
potent fossil
yep
crystal compass
I feel like those "op" items were some of the only things in the crates worth getting though
hm.
but I dont want to make people bored,
give them everything, etc.
potent fossil
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
crystal compass
I think the reason i did this was in an attempt to make some kind of progression.
Seeing how its pretty easy to get max vanilla enchants
worry of people getting bored, etc.
serene bolt
i just always make everything super hard because if its too easy people get bored of it quick, but if its too hard then people just quit out of frustration so.... make rewarding gameplay and people don't mind difficulty, needs to be a giant balancing act
crystal compass
Just not sure how i'm going to make some worthy progression, without some type of good tools like that.
Hmm.
potent fossil
well
like i said
do it my way, and you can keep that progression
you'd be invisibly offsetting OP'ness
but, ignore that if you wish
kindred storm
of course
limber knotBOT
lmao
pulsar fox
Walking back those statements like a champ 🤡
cedar spade
You don't need to do payouts via PayPal