they have a maven repo (that I linked above) with a bunch of 3rd party plugins
#general
heady spear
twin lagoon
yeah fair enough
slender jay
maybe remove the links
potent fossil
good point
twin lagoon
simple & mini you might want to remove the links in your replies
cedar spade
@wide chasm fyi I discovered this a few weeks ago and reported it to Zrips in private for this reason
potent fossil
aight
vernal moth
why michael?
potent fossil
well
twin lagoon
read stef's post
vernal moth
meh
golden gust
linking to illegally hosted stuff is generally 10/10
potent fossil
i mean i want them to delete it, not just commit over it
if they do that, then the links are invalid anyway
void void
forceUpgrade is slow
dusk drift
Then dont do it
void void
slender jay
why do forceupgrade?
worn ember
cat, i can send you some redroom links if you want
potent fossil
who's this random guy that replied on the thread about ddos lmao
void void
does anyone know a fix to the chunk [..., ...] is allocated but stream is missing stuff?
a few regions corrupted on my map like 4 months ago and that never stopped
potent fossil
is it the error in #announcements
potent fossil
#paper-help pls
void void
waxen panther
lmao
potent fossil
well if it's on mojira we can't fix it
cedar spade
simple: that guy is parodying kangarko's reply to mini's thread
just in broken english
potent fossil
oh lmao
vernal moth
hes german after all
quasi valley
it's a dum german
vernal moth
what did you expect 😄
quasi valley
obviously
potent fossil
read MD's comment up there
cedar spade
simple: that guy is parodying kangarko's reply to mini's thread
void void
i'm starting to think that i should make a spigot account so that i can see these threads
quasi valley
no
slender jay
you mean you dont have one to sip the hot tea there everyday?
void void
alright
heady spear
looks like they're taking down the maven repo too
the discord admin seems nice enough
pulsar wigeon
is that leonhard
woven otter
too late
pulsar wigeon
cuz he's in voice now
vernal moth
yeah
worn ember
can we yell at him and poke him with pitchforks?
pulsar wigeon
is leonhard there
heady spear
that baxter and I talked to
twin lagoon
@formal geyser were you aware of kangarko dmca'ing the document?
vernal moth
I made him aware
formal geyser
@formal geyser were you aware of kangarko dmca'ing the document?
@twin lagoon idk
twin lagoon
nice
waxen panther
slender jay
lololololololol
latent valve
lmfaoooooooooooooooo
pulsar wigeon
LMFAOO
woven otter
LMAO
potent fossil
I fucking love him
median crane
can anybody
potent fossil
But he's out of control sometimes
worn ember
gg
median crane
post the drama
slender jay
lmao
waxen panther
do you need a spigot account to view threads?
finite wave
Lol lax
median crane
some sections yeah
warm anchor
I mean they don’t charge you to make an account...
void void
i can see spigot threads if i find them on google somehow iirc, just if someone posts a link i can't. spigot forums are weird
finite wave
You can't get on here? https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/more-mineacademy-kangarko-stuff.448166
median crane
not
void void
nope
vernal moth
median crane
the loungue is not browsable
serene bolt
off topic isn't guest viewable because bad SEO
warm anchor
Spigot charge a fee for premium plug in right? From dev listing? Curious
wide chasm
Spigot doesn't charge fees whatsoever
pulsar wigeon
spigot gets nothing from that stuff
warm anchor
Oh that’s nice
pulsar wigeon
except all the drama
warm anchor
Lmaooo
pulsar wigeon
spigot makes all its money from donations/ads i guess
warm anchor
I’ve always wondered how that works
finite wave
Spigot works for free, all it does is just somewhat check if the code is malicious before allowing it on their site.
void void
tell curseforge to check stuff
pulsar wigeon
they only check premiums
finite wave
Hah, curse was just bought by Overwolf wasn't it?
wide chasm
Yep
finite wave
Rip wiz' curse points
pulsar wigeon
free resources are totally unchecked
wide chasm
The curse points are still here
finite wave
Oh, nvm then
pulsar wigeon
yea curse points aint leaving
waxen panther
dafuq is a curse point
vernal moth
they will be transferred at some point tho
wide chasm
We got a 5$ PayPal option out of this deal, which is pretty good imo
finite wave
It's money @waxen panther
waxen panther
wtf wtf
pulsar wigeon
anything not cashed in by the time of the merge gets auto cashed down to $5, anything less that $5 gets transferred to overwolf's system
austere ivy
does spigot do curse points or only dev.bukkit?
waxen panther
wheres my curse points
wide chasm
Only dev.bukkit
finite wave
Downloads = money
dusk drift
dev buk
pulsar wigeon
curseforge does
wide chasm
And curseforge itself I guess
midnight oracle
move me to general
austere ivy
I have 3 downloads on spigot where’s my money
midnight oracle
Thank you
wide chasm
You need quite a bit of downloads in order to get points
pulsar wigeon
it's a system for wow addons and stuff mostly, but since dbo is a curseforge frontend we get curseforge stuff
potent fossil
i mean Daddy Mike Spigot God
heady spear
lacko is in voice now. I'm happy that the minecademy staff are decent people
even if the owner is pretty yikedy yikes
warm anchor
Lol
worn ember
pimp le is there somewhere i can contribute more backgrounds to for mcbanners?
midnight oracle
I am here
waxen panther
twin lagoon
hi
void void
hello everyone! Does anyone know why my server keeps shutting down. whenever I enable it, it does all the normal log stuff but at the end it tries to save the worlds and it says. ''Flushing chunk IO'' followed by ''Closing thread pool. and as the last message, it says ''Closing server'' Anyone knows whats going on?
slender jay
.paste
limber knotBOT
Please paste large logs to a pastebin: https://paste.gg
potent fossil
who is it that my name bothers
heady spear
guys I'm starting a new programming course for spigot plugins
vernal moth
weeb academy?
latent valve
^
waxen panther
city programming street
latent valve
worn ember
HoboDoesProgramming
median crane
latent valve
heady spear
wtf is that
twin lagoon
looks like broccolai
heady spear
ew
twin lagoon
shit
dusk drift
🤢
heady spear
that looks American
waxen panther
wtf
void void
@vernal moth I made one, how do i share it?
waxen panther
Fuck you @twin lagoon
unreal quarry
😮 i saw that from across the room @median crane and now i'm hungry
woven otter
that looks horrifying
heady spear
@latent valve har ni också 999999 grader?
median crane
you look horrifying shut up
warm anchor
I will eat that whole thing
heady spear
I wanted to go for a walk but it's too hot to move D:
latent valve
neee typ 18grader å de regnar
heady spear
32 and 80% humidity today D:
finite wave
Please... speak not that weirdo lang.
latent valve
xD
finite wave
Det er også varmt og regner her.l
heady spear
de åska tho så det var rätt nice
slender jay
those spigot signatures are getting better and better
waxen panther
england is cold again now 
finite wave
Kun 18 grader her.
slender jay
cries in 35C
heady spear
wtf 18
latent valve
men fan 32 grader 🤢
wide chasm
20C here
woven otter
eww what is that lang
void void
hello everyone! Does anyone know why my server keeps shutting down. whenever I enable it, it does all the normal log stuff but at the end it tries to save the worlds and it says. ''Flushing chunk IO'' followed by ''Closing thread pool. and as the last message, it says ''Closing server'' Anyone knows whats going on?
latent valve
aa 18grader här xD
void void
is there anyone who could help me out?
heady spear
hot hot
potent fossil
@void void you're in the wrong channel
wide chasm
Diana_ please post this in #paper-help
potent fossil
slender jay
3rd times the charm aint it
true canyon
@void void You already had a reply you ignored too
void void
ohh im sorry
true canyon
void void
Yes I dmed the person
worn ember
void void
hes not awnsering
worn ember
waxen panther
why would you dm them???
potent fossil
no DMs
slender jay
lol
potent fossil
this is a public help channel
heady spear
men alltså hoppas det blir mer chill i veckan annars så flyttar jag hem till proxi :/
potent fossil
ask here or dont ask
void void
ohh ok
rugged zealot
pls no bully, but where is the download button on mc-market?
worn ember
just post ur log in paperhelp and wait for someone to help you out
unreal quarry
one does not simply slide into mini's DMs
hard kernel
i did
waxen panther
the download button is that big red X in the top right or top left of your screen
dusk drift
Telling Leonhard
minor badge
@heady spear kom vennen xoxo
waxen panther
ah yes food
rugged zealot
@waxen panther You're a funny lad 
median crane
furry*
waxen panther
I'm fucking hilarious bro
hard kernel
anyone know if there is a world border for 1.16 or will the old one work
waxen panther
HATE furries
heady spear
vi borde ha en scandinavian meetup
heady spear
förutom jan för han är dansk 🙂
latent valve
xD
pulsar fox
@hard kernel there's a fork on spigot
waxen panther
pulsar fox
though if you are just wanting it for pre-gen I would suggest ChunkMaster instead
hard kernel
link?
median crane
the humanity won
slender jay
good thing i slept the whole day yesterday
pulsar fox
@hard kernel
https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/worldborder-1-15.80466/
https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/chunkmaster.71351/
runic oar
... It is normal?
pulsar fox
yea it just didn't pick up the changelog, but it's fine
runic oar
ok
hard kernel
barty u have used both?
twin lagoon
newp2c, it's debatable
a lot of people say chunkmaster is faster
i stick to WB personally
dusk drift
I found WB to be faster in my short testing too
serene bolt
I'm fairly confident WB is faster, I've done like to like testing and it's faster in my personal experience
dusk drift
At least Pure's fork
hard kernel
pure do u still have ur fork
serene bolt
the latest jar is in #paper-help pins
pulsar fox
Chunkmaster was considerably faster for a long time due to it using the paper async gen, but then that was added to WB as well
serene bolt
yeah WB didn't have the paperlib originally which made chunkmaster faster
pulsar fox
now they should ideally be equal but from my testing and what I've seen from a few other people CM is still faster with the settings tweaked
hard kernel
ok i am used to wb too so that works... thank you all for help
potent fossil
lmao
waxen panther
monka w
hard kernel
pure this jar is old will it still work on 1.16?
serene bolt
I'm not even concerned with speed as much as the fact that the world generating logic has been an ever improving piece of logic for years in WB and I just trust the world gen is actually being completed properly
yes
serene bolt
especially if you're doing like massive sizes, the difference between full days
pulsar fox
I mean we literally had this conversation in VC and #the-silents a few hours ago and it swayed the complete opposite lol
so who knows
¯_(ツ)_/¯
serene bolt
yeah I don't know, what's faster for some is slower for others and I have no idea why. I guess just use whatever's faster for you :D
earnest carbon
I know it´s kinda weird to ask about other APIs
but would you guys recommend Magma as sponge alternative?
pulsar wigeon
void void
anywhere to donate and have it split between the team
instead of donating to 4 separate links
finite wave
Probably not.
magic river
Choose based on die roll
pulsar wigeon
use the "infrastructure" link in announcemnts
finite wave
Just donate to the paper link.
pulsar wigeon
that's the catch-all
pulsar wigeon
ded fuk u
magic river
worn ember
❤️
void void
is infrastructure cost for site hosting and stuff
twin lagoon
yes
worn ember
yeah
potent warren
Just donate to the paper link.
don't. donate to upstream 😉
twin lagoon
wat
potent warren
yes
pulsar wigeon
hey nick
worn ember
bukkit kappa
potent warren
They do all the work
pulsar wigeon
how about fuck you
void void
wat
potent warren
Howdy wiz 👋
worn ember
donate to mojang, they do allthe work
void void
kicked nice
spare stone
Noice Build
woven otter
donate to me because I'm notch I created minecraft
stiff yarrow
spare stone
donate to me because I'm notch I created minecraft
You already got 2 billions
woven otter
I need 3
spare stone
You can ask bill
finite wave
It was 2 commits @spare stone https://i.imgur.com/CjHCg01.png
woven otter
:C
worn ember
billion gates
spare stone
It was 2 commits
Aw Okay, seems they forgot to add the changelog
woven otter
billion gates 
finite wave
Yeah, probably didn't like something about the commits.
worn ember
maybe it overheated from Aikar his 12 hour session
golden gust
It's probs because it was already on master or something dumb
oh, wait, it did switch branch
void void
damn were like 10 builds released just today?
golden gust
maybe that tripped it
azure thorn
I can see other people's trigger command bcus im operator. how to hide this for me?
finite wave
Paper 1.16 has lots of releases while updating shit.
doCommandOutput or smth gamerule @azure thorn
azure thorn
there's no option for that, only for command block @finite wave
pulsar wigeon
gamerule names are terrible :\
void void
yes
pulsar wigeon
so inconsistent, half of them are "doX" and the other half randomly aren't that should be
finite wave
It is so annoying.
azure thorn
@finite wave thankyou. it works!
wintry sun
so um
worn ember
yeah gamerules are trash
wintry sun
i'm not sure if this is unrelated but mobs have damage indicators above them
wintry sun
worn ember
probably a plugin
finite wave
Mcmmo?
wintry sun
if it is, i have no idea which one, and i don't have one that specifically adds hearts
MAYBE THAT
finite wave
I don't actually recall if mcmmo does that.
worn ember
reproduce without plugins ¯_(ツ)_/¯
finite wave
Yo i'm so smart.
worn ember
i like it more when it just show the hearts in the action bar
wintry sun
it's super annoying cuz sometimes when people die it says stuff like "player was shot by a ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ "
worn ember
i hate getting shot by those
finite wave
Amor getting fierce once more
rugged zealot
What is a good alternative to EssentialsX chat?
twin lagoon
essentialsx
finite wave
Depends do you use luckperms?
rugged zealot
Yes
finite wave
I used this https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/luckpermschat-chat-formatter-for-luckperms-placeholderapi-support.68965/
rugged zealot
I just want to get prefixes lol
potent fossil
whats wrong with essx chat tho
midnight oracle
move me guys
twin lagoon
wat
finite wave
I think essx chat is having strokes with context ,or luckperms not properly telling vault the prefix and stuff.
twin lagoon
.g essentialsx ci
twin lagoon
ok guess not today bot
void void
if anyone knows how to do plugins well just ping me. Im trying to learn how to make my own plugins
twin lagoon
@cosmic raft 
.g bot bork
finite wave
@void void You are in the right place all of us know to do plugins.
limber knotBOT
.g essentialsx
(Chew) https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/essentialsx.9089/ -- EssentialsX | SpigotMC - High Performance Minecraft: "EssentialsX is a fork of the original Essentials 2 plugin for Bukkit servers, adding support for the latest Minecraft versions. EssentialsX also ..."
twin lagoon
oh what the fuck
potent fossil
smh
rugged zealot
I have essentialsX
mighty storm
rugged zealot
And you linked EssentialsX
finite wave
I had issue with essentials chat and luckperms contexts.
twin lagoon
including chat
somber jackal
so if Spigot is High Performance, is Paper extreme performance?
finite wave
Yes
mighty storm
if by high you mean on drugs, then yes
mighty storm
implying they were hired*
rugged zealot
Looks like something I did when experimenting with CSS and HTML lol
warm anchor
it gets the job done dude
rugged zealot
Thing is @warm anchor it doesn't.
warm anchor
You click and download 
done
rugged zealot
mighty storm
it acknowledges the job but doesnt do it
swift bolt
how is 1.16.1 working out for you guys on production?
mighty storm
works fine for me
cedar spade
There are a bunch of issues out of our control with the website, I'm working on it right now
warm anchor
fine so far no issues
cedar spade
Dark Reader completely breaks it, and something's up with the Jenkins API caching wrong
serene sentinel
I've joined some 1.16 servers there was an unexpected random lags even on 16gb and preloaded world the cpu is i7-7700k
warm anchor
@swift bolt earlier today but that's fine 
serene sentinel
Thankfully papermc patched some problems
cedar spade
@rugged zealot If you have any feedback I'd like to hear it
void void
@finite wave oh cool
void void
so do you download forge mdk or do you just code whats inside of paper?
finite wave
Eh...
potent fossil
he was up when his wife came downstairs and she yelled at him
potent fossil
at 6:30am
finite wave
Paper is simply the bukkit/spigot api with major improvements and additions to make it easier for you.
void void
so when you download paper, just go into the bukkit or spigot to code specific parts of the game?
kindred storm
Okay, great
https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/spigot-plugin-development/ will get you started
it's spigot-api-oriented, but it will get you started developing plugins
void void
ok thx A248
void void
I have eclispe
remote cobalt
Is there any good plugin to either prevent hackers or to ban them automatically?
kindred storm
okay, well then the tutorial is ready to go!
Rigorberto, unless the client is leaking its brand or something stupid that gives it away, there's no such "auto-detect hackers"
upper flicker
kindred storm
hacked clients don't need to send the correct brand
they can just say they're vanilla
that's what I was referring to
remote cobalt
I knot that is difficult to ''find'' hackers unless they use it in a dumb way or show themselves
But there is a guy in a minecraft server that I play in that is using hacks to 'spawn' in some weird way chests full of hacked items and stuff
magic river
Don't give him creative mode
finite wave
Are you using 1.8?
remote cobalt
And he can teleport to random locations without being banned or anything
It doesnt even pop-up in console
kindred storm
ban him
remote cobalt
Are you using 1.8?
@finite wave 1.15.2
magic river
Teleport without anti-cheat plugins is easy
remote cobalt
We've ip banned him like 6 different times
magic river
So your real problem is this is a cracked server
remote cobalt
he keeps changeing either ip or something and having different accounts
if by 'cracked' you mean 'no premium' yes
cedar spade
Yes, that is cracked
remote cobalt
So, that is my problem then?
remote cobalt
Thats why that guy can do whatever he wants without any anti-cheat plugin noticing?
There has to be a way to either stop him or make it more difficult for him or whoever wants to do that
void void
make them get bored of it, best method
golden gust
anti cheat plugins are generally crap at preventing a majority of the modern "attacks"
remote cobalt
make them get borde of it, best method
@void void we closed the server for a day, and with core-protect found any dupe stash or any chest he spawner or toched and deleted them
spawned*
But he joined again with another account and spawned them again, without any permissions, op or anything
rugged zealot
so Iinstalled luckperms chat... where is the config,yml? it did not create it's own folder
oops
remote cobalt
What? :/
void void
i mean you could put in some kind of verification stuff, but thats easy to get around. it's just when they get bored
remote cobalt
We have the authme plugin and stuff
median crane
remote cobalt
We even disable Donkeys
so no one can dupe stuff
and he still managed to dupe in a way we still can find out
:'c
limber knotBOT
donkey dupes should be fixed on paper anyways
you most likely have some buggy plugin
finite wave
KNAGRKO RESPONDED
cunning raft
link
finite wave
Wait i got a mail
cedar spade
wat
heady spear
jan stop trolling smh
finite wave
nvm
cedar spade
jan pls
heady spear
idiot
finite wave
😿
limber knotBOT
imagine being able to read
limber knotBOT
tru
cedar spade
imagine being able to spell your own name kneny
woven otter
^
finite wave
knenytv
woven otter
kneny is also upsidedown
heady spear
kneny is trying to convince us that his name isn't kneny
woven otter
lies
cedar spade
vernal moth
How is kneny even pronounced?
finite wave
Knee ny
vernal moth
Knee eye?
finite wave
ny // new knee new
minor badge
you dont pronounce it
quasi valley
would be very unorthodox to english lol
forgot if there even is a word starting with "kn" where you pronounce both letters
rugged zealot
Braindead question, how do I allow people to interact with everything with luckPerms? 😄
finite wave
luckperms.*
limber knotBOT
what kind of "interact" do you mean? because luckperms doesn't block block/entity interactions...
finite wave
??
rugged zealot
Right now I get You are not permitted to interact with BLOCK
cedar spade
*AntiBuild not Protect (if it's even EssX)
Give them essentials.build or remove AntiBuild
limber knotBOT
use luckperms verbose mode to see which permissions it's checking
finite wave
Oh, i got no clue 
austere ivy
When will 1.16.1 be added to papermc.io's downloads page? Also, when will 1.15.2 be removed?
quasi valley
soon™️
quasi valley
it's already there to download
finite wave
Am i blind? https://i.imgur.com/68NyNpY.png
austere ivy
oh that's weird
true canyon
Force refresh!
austere ivy
that was really weird it was only showing 1.15.2 till I refreshed
finite wave
nub
austere ivy
also is [CI-SKIP] not working?
finite wave
Use it.
It wouldn't be on there as the latest if it didn't work.
Atleast work somewhat*
finite wave
gj
austere ivy
thank you bows
finite wave
???
void void
wrong server probably
waxen panther
???????
finite wave
#paper-help now
void void
Koala in the rain no fucks givin!
https://coubsecure-s.akamaihd.net/get/b181/p/coub/simple/cw_timeline_pic/be34efb7495/16e1fb2c73c1a884c6c0e/med_1502816195_image.jpg
tranquil bone
I am in search of someone with a rainbow animation file for tab 👀
finite wave
.... ??? ... ??
waxen panther
I am in search for the most cancer tab possible please
finite wave
.g cancer tablist plugin spigot
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7fB0bKzGbc -- TablistEdit Plugin Tutorial Minecraft 1.12 - YouTube: "Nov 5, 2017 ... Today, we learn about the plugin TabListEdit and how you can easily customize your tablist with it! //PLUGIN.png// TabListEdit: ..."
tired bear
.g click2enchant
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://www.spigotmc.org/members/bladefireturtle.38654/ -- BladeFireTurtle | SpigotMC - High Performance Minecraft: "(Same arguments works with /click2enchant give) ... 's command? /click2enchant give <name> sharpness 1 says unknown enchant??"
tired bear
damn paper has plugin search bot?
twin lagoon
yes is paper plugin
tired bear
damn
can't seem to find a updated version of click2enchant though
.g click2enchant 1.15.2
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/enchantgui-1-8-1-15-2-editable-maxlevel-prices.63088/ -- EnchantGui 1.8 ~ 1.15.2 Editable MaxLevel/Prices | SpigotMC...: "Features: Editable prices ( money , level, lapis ); Editable GUI; Able to set the enchantment's max level. Permission for every single ..."
tired bear
😠 this is not what im looking for
fallen oracle
Just use Google.
tired bear
👀 i use duckduckgo
finite wave
smoky python
remember when he had a facebook group for help
tired bear
doesn't that guy run some kind of minecraft academy coding bootcamp
with his chatcontrolpro plugins
smoky python
its called memeacadamy
pure parcel
how would you guys react if a staff member actively defied the owner about a thing in your admin shop and saying all you do for the server is to boost an ego?
void void
that guy is so cringe
he has like 50 ads on mcm
that's when you know you're down bad
tired bear
😩 i purchased his plugins before and found none of them useful
void void
the code is probably terrible
tired bear
chatcontrolpro is so confusing to use i don't know if he understands how to design a config that's user-friendly
void void
chat control pro is not worth 15 euros LMAO
hey guys Are there curently any stable builds for now without bugs able to destroy my build map :D?
tired bear
i purchased it was back in 2017
smoky python
Poor you
void void
tired bear
🤣
tired bear
he's a hustler i guess, props for that?
waxen panther
His response annoys me so much
tired bear
every update he makes is a useless update that boost his plugins to the front page, although a lot of devs do that in spigot. but it's just so annoying.
mighty storm
How is he "giving spigot a lot of money"
void void
ads
twin lagoon
hi bardy
mighty storm
you can advertise your plugin on spigot??
void void
i meant mcm my bad
waxen panther
ThE MoRE PeOple ThAt DiG inTO OUr SysTems and Do FreE SecuRity aNd ComPliaNce aUdiTs
smoky python
There was one
tired bear
you can in a way by making useless updates that puts your plugin in the front page.
void void
selling course?
smoky python
its was his first "company"
smoky python
Used to laugh about it while back in another discord server
$172 for a facebook group
Like wtf
tired bear
that's the vip group for lonely men to find beautiful women
tired bear
facts not gonna lie
smoky python
Fr
tired bear
would prefer captions if is an indian guy no racist here.
smoky python
I think most people that went to him wanted to learn how to make plugins for awhile but never good the motivation
void void
smoky python
and making something that cost money & saying "this is everything you need to make plugins!" makes people want to get it and think its the best of the best
pulsar wigeon
why tf does this channel become kangarko shit constantly
smoky python
We love him!
finite wave
Cause he is a shity person
fallen oracle
You guys have a fan club for this where you can talk about it.
finite wave
Yes
fallen oracle
So, take it there.
median crane
who is this guy and why do i keep seeing him
finite wave
hmmm
smoky python
Why is his face the server logo
heady spear
tbf 90% of the stuff in there isn't about him, we switch topics
should make it a Glare fan club next
waxen panther
perfect
heady spear
the bardy one only lasted for so long
glare didn't wanna join so we can worship him in peace 😛
median crane
paperspigot
limber knotBOT
@median crane [Auto] We're now known as Paper.
median crane
you warned me already bot 
somber whale
how come the built in anti xray for 1.16 paper is not working
twin lagoon
it works
smoky python
Wow how dare you x-raying
median crane
gotta see them bois naked
finite wave
@somber whale nether?
somber whale
yes anti xra in the nether
finite wave
Yeah, you needed to set something to 3 for it work properly
tired bear
can someone stream the coding session so i can watch and have no idea what's going on
waxen panther
what coding session
tired bear
there's a VC in general
void void
How can I close an Attached screen?
tired bear
i just assumed they're chatting together and working on it
magic river
There is no coding happening
void void
ew
void void
@void void on linux?
yea
Im not inside the screen
I cant enter in it
Its attached
Ctrl + C to close it, Ctrl + A + D to keep it open just deattach
terse marsh
Guys. Why do we have a Taylor Swift and a Tacos channel...? 👀
cedar spade
PaperMC is powered by tacos, cats and Taylor Swift
terse marsh
Well I can fully understand cats and tacos. But...TAYLOR SWIFT?!
magic river
And... banned by Demon
terse marsh
void void
?
tired bear
PaperMC is powered by devs who only use starbucks wifi
lapis marlin
henlo
void void
I want to close both of them
lapis marlin
oh jeez i forgot how to do that
terse marsh
Starbucks == TS...?
tired bear
what i gotta do to get in the general voice chat
it looks hyped up
must be lit in there
lapis marlin
enter waiting room
void void
could someone help me determine the version of a jar
tired bear
let me in senpai
void void
if i send it to someone?
tired bear
can't u do /version ingame?
lapis marlin
/version
void void
not installed old server
lapis marlin
if it's paper doesn't it say
tired bear
open ur old server and do /version?
lapis marlin
like paper-{numbers}
void void
rip
lapis marlin
pog
tired bear
nobody uses paper's default jar name lul
tired bear
pull out the jar and make a start.bat script
terse marsh
I'm curious why is Bukkit dying? Spigot is a one-man show. Basically the only "futureproof" version is Paper. But...why?!
orchid edge
because minecraft is poorly made
tired bear
bukkit is dead because spigot revolutionized it
pulsar wigeon
that's not how it works at all
terse marsh
Also I'm curious if Paper is keeping any "legacy stuff" or it's a new thing.
vernal moth
bukkit is alive and well, lol
tired bear
and paper wouldn't exist if mojang does not have a shit team.
pulsar wigeon
bukkit is dead due to a whole lot of weird decisions and legal issues between 2010-2014
the codebase is still doing fine - spigot does most of the changes there actually
spigot itself actually doesn't get new changes very often. their patchset hasn't moved a whole lot recently
terse marsh
MiniDigger oh come on. Take a look on their forums/plugins section, you can see the spiders.
pulsar wigeon
the bukkit project being dead has nothing to do with the bukkit api/software being dead or alive
tired bear
real question why can't spigot become paper, i mean why can't spigot just make optimizations like paper has been.
rare herald
Someone didn’t pay close attention to all the drama over the past 10 years 👀
wide chasm
Spigot can, they just don't.
terse marsh
They?
lapis marlin
well if ill be honest @tired bear
they don't get paid to do spigot
they have lives
vernal moth
MiniDigger oh come on. Take a look on their forums/plugins section, you can see the spiders.
@terse marsh bukkit project != bukkit software. project is dead, software is maintained by spigot
and to an extend, paper
lapis marlin
working on spigot doesn't give MD_5 a $25/hr job
Neither does working on Paper
They're all volunteers
tired bear
👀 spigot relies on donations just like a paper right
median crane
yes
pulsar wigeon
i mean, pretty sure md5 makes a pretty decent amount of spigot
terse marsh
as long as we're talking about "him" not "them"...
pulsar wigeon
just look at the name change request forum
vernal moth
why is there such a community devs willing to volunteer.
@tired bear some ppl are just nice?
lapis marlin
@tired bear some ppl are just nice?
@vernal moth that or a factor of them actually needing it on their own servers lol
(sorry for the ping Clam)
tired bear
all good
pulsar wigeon
there's probably a million and a half various discussions on why people contribute to open source projects
magic river
I didn't start working on CraftBukkit until after I stopped running a server
terse marsh
what I've asked myself from the start is why the heck isn't Spigot merging with Paper and call it a day?
magic river
I did it because people using my software is cool and I have a big ego 😛
finite wave
Mojang
terse marsh
Because Spigot doesn't want to merge with Paper.
@wide chasm did anybody had a friendly chat/beer with the guy or ... ?
wide chasm
Spigot has been anti-Paper the whole time
tired bear
hey @dusk drift the spawner remover plugin doesn't always remove spawners, I don't have a way to report that to you so.
finite wave
Paper will accept small prs as well as big prs as long as they deem it as an addition/fix
dusk drift
¯_(ツ)_/¯
kindred storm
was about to say
tired bear
😢
wide chasm
If Spigot was open to the changes Paper makes, they would have been in Spigot.
dusk drift
It removed everysingle one for me on world gen
tired bear
i used chunkmaster, not sure if that made a difference.
finite wave
I wrote spigot instead of paper no clue why
wide chasm
(At least for the ones when the project was new.)
finite wave
lol
tired bear
how does tacospigot compare with paper?
kindred storm
vernal moth
@vernal moth that or a factor of them actually needing it on their own servers lol
@lapis marlin yeah, true, bunch of the shit I contribute are used on dyescape. But its also just a nice hobby
wide chasm
To be fair, my last interactions with md have been fine.
finite wave
We don't support 1.8 @tired bear
tired bear
eww. who supports 1.8
median crane
kindred storm
TacoSpigot has not been in development for a while
finite wave
Isn't tacospigot 1.8?
tired bear
oh, lmao. my bad.
kindred storm
It was 1.12 when it was abandoned, I thought
tired bear
i just remembered tacospigot being a thing back in 1.12
hard kernel
whoa shiny psyduck
median crane
was it good?
kindred storm
Tuinity is the new TacoSpigot equivalent
quasi valley
was taco actually that different to paper
finite wave
I mean getting a degree is the way to get a good decent job... as well as experience.
ancient bolt
Yes
wide chasm
I have a job now without a degree but that's only one day a week because I'm currently doing uni.
ancient bolt
Not me, but I know of several
finite wave
I mean i get a degree for free here so i got no such issues.
tired bear
i heard germany's education was fairly cheap.
glacial kelp
Any recommendations for a block history plugin for 1.16.1? Should allow me to see who placed a block.
vernal moth
same, lol, I was paid to attend uni
spice finch
CoreProtect @pale zinc
tired bear
US is a total scam guys. It's really really bad here.
glacial kelp
xD
pulsar wigeon
check out prism maybe
glacial kelp
I give it a spin, thank you ^^
pulsar wigeon
coreprotect is closed source and not for everyone
waxen panther
glacial kelp
Not a big server, just need it to bust trolls building where they shouldnt
ancient bolt
My total debt from college is ~95k
tired bear
prism is a coreprotect alternative? O_O
ancient bolt
Its absurd
pulsar wigeon
so i've heard
vernal moth
oh wow
ancient bolt
I'll pay it all off before I'm 30 though
waxen panther
My college will be about $36k total, not including housing
tired bear
that's not even on the high end @ancient bolt . some people get 300k right after graduation.
ancient bolt
Private school that my parents basically brainwashed me into going to
I unbrainwashed myself through the course of college
ancient bolt
Which is ironic lol
ancient bolt
The amount I gave includes housing and food
vernal moth
like, if you are in dept till 30, dont ppl buy houses at that age?
frosty scarab
Buying a house in the US lmao
ancient bolt
But yeah it was like $350 / credit hour base expense
vernal moth
why not?
ancient bolt
And I had a $50000 scholarship too
I'll be buying a house somewhat soon
Next few years
In Oklahoma property is cheap
So once I move back there it'll be easy
frosty scarab
Do you work remote, or just have work out there
ancient bolt
I moved to California for a job but I'll work remote (same company) when I move back to Oklahoma
frosty scarab
Damn remote work in a cheap place is the dream
ancient bolt
Yup
tired bear
👍
ancient bolt
Moving across country is hell though
Doing it just to do it again in 12 months is kinda shitty
frosty scarab
Doesn’t sound fun yeah
unborn ravine
what value should i change if i dont want exp orbs to merge?
kindred storm
why doesn't someone make a fork of Paper called Scissors?
real basin
breaking bedrock on the server i play on isnt working anyone had any issues with it just checking before we look at server
latent valve
allow-perm-block-break-exploits: false ---> true in paper.yml
finite wave
Paper fixes issues that should not appear...
bleak urchin
Will this be updated? Hasn't been updated since 1.14.4 in November, and quite a lot has changed since https://paper.readthedocs.io/en/latest/server/configuration.html
pulsar wigeon
it's open source, feel free to PR updates
bleak urchin
Noticed that just now
Some pending PRs still
May eventually work on it when I get enough time
magic river
Can AirSpigot do so well because the chunks are just air? That wouldn't take much RAM 😄
magic river
Not talking about CPU though, just RAM
Plus, to get the RAM that low you'd also disable mob spawns
It's an empty void 200 players can fly around in so they can see a player skin while they use the crappy in-game chat
pulsar wigeon
presumably if you have a void lobby fork you'd rip out mob spawning code entirely
median crane
anybody here know if the packet 0x13 is within the position type in protocolib
vernal moth
I wonder when spigot release
and I wonder when paper released
lmao
24k servers already run 1.16, 5k out those already upgraded to paper
spice finch
thats 20%, nice
rare herald
That’s a lot of servers 😬
Haven’t even started working on updating my personal server
spice finch
Are there more detailed stats Mini?
real basin
it needs to be set to true yeah ?
vernal moth
Wdym more detailed?
kindred storm
CDFN bStats
vernal moth
That site uses bstats btw
fallen oracle
Dayum, overnight it went up 20%
pastel pivot
Hey I made this: https://gist.github.com/stonar96/ba18568bd91e5afd590e8038d14e245e
Please tell me what you think about it. Can I improve something? This should answer the most common questions about Anti-Xray and can be used as a response to those questions.
vernal moth
That's something that's prolly best placed on the docs site
quasi valley
I'd make the comment hash symbol indented as with the actual section, so it doesn't look like text could be config options
but otherwise sexey
slim nymph
well hold on stonar as im about to make changes to the configs lol
were gonna do defaults by dimension type
pastel pivot
Thanks so far. I'll update it Aikar.
slim nymph
so default:
nether:
w/e that index config is:
replaced-blocks: blah
so that people wont have to actually set those per world
pastel pivot
okay sounds good.
unreal pike
.optimize
tired bear
waiting for paper to develop enough so that 1gb ram can handle 200 players
glacial kelp
lol
quasi valley
see you back in 1.0 without any actual features
cedar spade
What if mojang abandoned actual version numbers and update names and just used the protocol version
paper 737 support when
quartz peak
Bruh you would be down to 1 chunk view distance if you want 200 players on 1 gb
magic river
protocol version is basically just build number
quartz peak
Will 1.15 still be worked on in the meantime? Or 1.16 is the focus now?
magic river
1.15 has already had two updates since 1.16 builds started
Eventually it'll stop but not just yet
potent fossil
alright well, hopefully the thread is still up and just locked later and hopefully kangaroo is banned but i cant stay up to watch. 2 tired :((( bye pplz
waxen panther
simple leaving us again 
potent fossil
💋
magic mesa
cya lol
magic river
void void
i made a spigot plugin that sends webhooks to a discord server and i tried adding a copyright thing in the fotter but it just shows up as https://www.blucobalt.dev/i/ILFWe.png
how do i get rid of that latin a infront of the ©?
re: i fixed it with https://www.blucobalt.dev/i/rWdFy.png
grim scaffold
dayum, overnight --forceupdate brought me to like 6%
is my server file just that large or am I doing something wrong?
limber knotBOT
that command has to load and convert all chunks
depending on the world size it's going to takea while
pulsar wigeon
why are people still using that shit .-.
limber knotBOT
you shouldn't need it though, paper's async chunk loading should be able to keep up with it on regular chunk loads
only do it for small-ish, performance critical worlds where pre-upgrading is possible
limber knotBOT
I want to say yes but I would just use the backup from before the upgrade just to be sure to not run into corruption
tired bear
how is a bot talking
finite wave
AI
tired bear
i can't tell if it's a bot
tired bear
ah
finite wave
limber knotBOT
wtf is up with server icons in 1.16: https://i.phoenix616.dev/fIyBYsdE.png Oo
dusk drift
They are fucked
I've seen random textures being server icons like default skins and the icon sheet
minor badge
yeah in 1.16 it just does anything it wants
limber knotBOT
interestingly it only seems to happen with the server/bungee icon and not when used with SLP 
pearl vapor
Who is phoenix616, is he actually a bot? But how can he answer so specifically to questions. This doesn't make sense. I don't need sleep, I need answers.
tired bear
👀 paperbungee inc?
finite wave
Ai @pearl vapor
finite wave
He looks at hottest topics and tries to engage in conversation.
tired bear
introducing, I Am Robot - Featured Artist: Will Smith.
pearl vapor
Oh ok, thanks for letting me know.