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#general
void void
void void
metal better
void void
gotta entertain somehow
worn ember
i mean, the speakers he made are enough to vibrate the shit out of you
so might aswel
void void
impressive
foggy pewter
nickname whatever you do I strongly recommend not messing with wiz lol
worn ember
currently "god is a dj" lul
left swift
Lol
lament patio
Will a small server of around 20 players run on a 4 core AMD Epyc 7702
I'd expect it to struggle a little but manage it with the right amount of optimization, assuming it's a decent host
worn ember
bold assumption to make there
astral cipher
it's a root server, so better than vps some could say
twin lagoon
no it's not
worn ember
root servers are vps's lol
twin lagoon
in some cases yes and in some cases no
germans like to call dedicated servers root servers sometimes
cough hetzner & webtropia
that epyc 7702 has 64-cores though so it's a VPS for sure
worn ember
just cuz you have root doesnt mean its a dedicated machine
astral cipher
point is, it's kvm not openvz so more dedicated resources I guess
twin lagoon
kvm is better than openvz yes
worn ember
are we able to render beacon beams from server side yet in 1.16?
or will that never be a thing
crystal compass
Dude do these guys go to sleep
olive garden
hi ded
crystal compass
Aikar been in voicechat everytime ive checked in last 24 hours
olive garden
can I bully you?
crystal compass
Lol
lunar hearth
I have a bit of a question,
So Paper's a fork of Spigot, but does Paper continue to pull from Spigot and rely on Spigot for game updates?
wide chasm
The underlying codebase is still Spigot, so changes Spigot has made are pulled to Paper, yes. Paper just applies its own changes on top of that.
twin lagoon
unfortunately
lunar hearth
Ah ok, thanks, that's what I thought
Similar question, anyone know if Spigot's still dependant on CraftBukkit?
pulsar wigeon
basically, but the original bukkit project is long gone so the same person does spigot as craftbukkit^
olive garden
long time no see wiz, I thought you got banned by some heavenly force or something
olive garden
not really
vestal jasper
TriBraincells
twin lagoon
worn ember
@olive garden yes, bully me about how i'm incapable of making a multimodule project
main kernel
Lol I joined this server to ask about an ETA for the 1.16 release and thatโs the first rule lol
worn ember
main kernel
Bro I just want my netherite ๐ญ
worn ember
no u quit it
void void
lmao mojang says to run the server with 1gb memory
formal oxide
i have a 2080 ti can i run paper
chrome scroll
no you need a titan v
limber knotBOT
Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.
worn ember
Morning Aikar
slim nymph
ive been on ๐ should be on voice / stream
worn ember
ah, i havent been paying much attention, i just let you guys do your thing lol
slim nymph
@chrome scroll btw you made some comment in spigot about we cant do much about mojangs / as much as mojang can. Sure we can, I've done it multiple times already ๐
regarding parallelization
i fully pegged 10 threads in 1.13
tiny viper
thats kinda hot ngl
void void
you should've lied
tiny viper
hah
quartz peak
bruh how is aikar awake wasnt he streaming all night?
hard kernel
there are some nice cats in #adorable-pets
upper flicker
crates and crates of 5hr
hard kernel
z when will u stream?
quartz peak
Aikar is not human they are a bot 
upper flicker
lol probably going to be done before there's any need
void void
im running a rpi 4 with just normal mc right now and holy shit its a bit laggy with 3 people on
4gb ram / halved to 2gb ram due to the other 2 being used by OS
slim nymph
@quartz peak your implying im actually awake
ive been running onlike 3-4 hrs of sleep past few nights
quartz peak
..........
slim nymph
while my go to sleep time is variable, my wake up time for work is sadly fixed lol
quartz peak
aikar SLEEP
void void
what inspired them to do paper
quartz peak
at least take naps through out the day
red imp
Hi, where could I download the 1.16 paper build? I know it's not recommended but wanna try. Can't find it on jenkisn or official page
worn ember
build it from the repo
void void
trust me next question is how do you build it from the repo
stray oyster
worn ember
then you shouldnt ๐
void void
not many people know, but why, who knows
vestal jasper
TLDR if you can't figure out how to get it right now, you most likely shouldn't be using it in its current state.
vestal jasper
It crashes constantly
void void
but dw, puglin ai is alright
vestal jasper
Get It Together @still smelt
thorny rivet
so I guess you can't answer that yet but for my usecase there is no nether and I don't plan on making a rainbow chat, is 1.16 of any use? i.e. were there some under the hood changes apart from adding content?
void void
why don't you stay on 1.2.5
do we really need elytra?
do we really need security?
etc
chrome scroll
CB 1.2 best version
thorny rivet
lol it's not like rebasing patches pack to 1.15.2 would be a problem for a few weeks
tiny viper
thats a weird way of spelling 1.7.10
thorny rivet
But since 1.14 made stuff worse and 1.15 kinda improved it made sense to move on
so that's what I am asking
chrome scroll
weird way to spell 
tiny viper
heh
peak matrix
1.17
thorny rivet
because clients are still stuck on 1.12 (looking at laby mod) and optifine isn't officially stable either
chrome scroll
paper 1.18 when??!?!?!?
void void
my point is you can not update, but ur a dinosaur then and will die
hard kernel
why is ther no nether
chrome scroll
i mean even if you dont care about the content at all 1.15 will still not be mainted a few weeks after 1.16 stable is released
haha funi file
void void
mcmarket isn't realible itself
chrome scroll
custom JVM optimized for PvP from mcmarket
void void
also what the fuck is Java EE 5
chrome scroll
bro he bought it from mc market that means its good
pulsar wigeon
can we not perpetuate that bs pls someone might believe it
void void
ah yes, we have to remember about the stupids
the stupids use craftbukkit get them outta here
thorny rivet
which reminds me, is there a paper fork which reapplies most patches to 1.8 for pvp(TM)?
void void
bro my way younger siblings hopped on my pc and subscibred & turned on bell noti on youtube for like 100 family friendly youtube channels
fuck
thorny rivet
I mean besides MCM xD
vivid hearth
Does anyone know a plugin where i can execute a command and it will claim a region infront of the player?
chrome scroll
theres a plugin for old combat mechanics
void void
letting family onto your computer
death wish
i left it on rendering a video and i went downstairs to eat :/
turn off your monitor then
spiral garden
tiny viper
whoopsies
tiny viper
@void void 899157861673572180
loaded it up with a build i just compiled (paper serv)
spawned in a deset, broke a dead bush and server crashed (probably not related, i used aikars flags without making sure they worked because im slow)
then
restarted it with normal flags and got that
its funny
void void
wuss poppin jimbos
red imp
Why.... players canยจt pickup items on the latest paper with these plugins?
Barrels, BeehivesPro, BetterBees, BlockRegen, BossLand, Brewery, BungeeTabListPlus, Captchas, ChatControl, ChestTerminal, ClayTech, ClickDye, CMI, CMIPaperLib, ColoredEnderChests, Confiscate, CraftBook, CrazyAuctions, CrazyEnchantments, CS-CoreLib, DefensiveTurrets, DeluxeTags*, DiceFurniture, Drycell, DyedBackpacks, ElectricSpawners, ExoticGarden, ExploitFixer, ExtraGear, ExtraTools, FeatherBoard*, FurnitureLib, FurnitureMaker, GadgetsMenu, GUIShop, HamsterAPI*, HandyOrbs, HeadDatabase*, HotbarPets, HyperDrive, IllegalStack, InteractionVisualizer, IPWhiteListBukkit, Jobs, JukeBox, JumpAndRuns*, LagAssist, LightAPI*, LimitPillagers, LiteXpansion, LogBlock, LuckPerms, Magic, MagicWorlds, MobCapturer, MobFarmManager, MoreOres, Multiverse-Core, MVdWPlaceholderAPI*, NametagEdit*, NoCheatPlus, NoteBlockAPI, Oh_the_dungeons_youll_go, PhysicsToGo, PlaceholderAPI, Plan, Poop, PrivateStorage, ProtectionLib*, ProtocolLib, PvPToggle, Residence, SelectionVisualizer, Slimefun, SlimefunLuckyBlocks, SlimefunOreChunks, SlimyTreeTaps, SoulJars, SoundMuffler, spark, SpecializedCrates, TerraformGenerator, TimeVote, TokenManager, TradeMe, Trampolin*, TranscEndence, TreasureHunt, TryMe, UltimateFishing, UltimateTimber, Vault, ViaVersion, ViewDistanceTweaks, VoidGenerator, Votifier, VotingPlugin, WorldEdit, XPBoost
void void
-999 iq
red imp
What's wrong with picking plugins there
twin lagoon
paper-help is meant for this
red imp
I don't know if it's paper issue
pulsar wigeon
then test without plugins, etc
cedar spade
define "latest paper"
twin lagoon
if it's 1.16.1 then bruh
void void
cough
red imp
I probably can't test without plugins when it' ssurvival for players, without plugins it wouldn't be survival and it happens online sometimes.... and other players can pickup
No itลก latest for 1.15.2
red imp
void void
damn it mojang
red imp
I have auto updater btw it's always the latest
cunning raft
uninstall CMI
void void
belt*
cunning raft
that's the problem
red imp
are you sure?
twin lagoon
CMI is aids
cunning raft
yep
red imp
but it could be solved somehow there, no?
twin lagoon
you have 80 plugins
including stupid plugins like CMI or LagAssist
and Songoda plugins
void void
limber knotBOT
if any of you guys have stared the original NoCheatPlus repo: could you please unstar it and star the updated one. not having code search is pretty annoying :S
limber knotBOT
it's the only usable anti cheat so ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
limber knotBOT
show me any other open source anti cheat that has that amount of configurability
void void
i was jk
left swift
What's the link to the updated line
limber knotBOT
left swift
One
red imp
Phoenix don't you have an idea what's issue?
tiny viper
thanks, ill check it out
left swift
Thanks Phoenix
left swift
Stop baiting
void void
sorry?
limber knotBOT
void void
ofc
limber knotBOT
6k servers lost to 1.16
pulsar wigeon
meh, it'll pick back up
tiny viper
to be expected i think
cedar spade
ffs
autumn shoal
people are just impatient
limber knotBOT
interestingly enough there are 8k less bukkit based servers since 1.16 too
autumn shoal
its better to be patient for 1.16 paper, not going to switch on spigot ๐
limber knotBOT
well, more like 6k 
the downward trend since end of may is a way bigger issue tbh, lol
hard kernel
where does this data come from?
limber knotBOT
bstats
queen rapids
limber knotBOT
sudden dips happen when server networks close or some connection issues occured
also maybe someone decided to turn off and then on the stats on all of their servers, lol
ok wait
pulsar fox
a global pandemic with a large portion of at least the US becoming un-employed and unable to pay server bills?
limber knotBOT
this is just the server not having one data point: https://phoenix616.dev/๐ท/fOXSBmqy.png
nah, the steady decline comes from countries re-opening again and people having to go to work/school
limber knotBOT
and large networks scale their server amount based on players
the build server has a link for covering hosting
undone hare
i have been using it for a while now and long overdue to pay back some love to the peeps deving it
serene bolt
undone hare
Thank you @void void
void void
np
quartz peak
Im just farming as much shit as possible before paper/ plugin devs releases their stuff for 1.16
undone hare
I wonder what new gold farm rates are going to be like
limber knotBOT
I doubt they changed them, lol
undone hare
do we all know whats breaking farm wise in this update?
limber knotBOT
good thing I nerfed them on my server already
undone hare
I have kinda stayed away from vids on this subject to keep the update as fresh as possible when i get it
limber knotBOT
imagine playing minecraft
undone hare
void void
Hi guys, maybe many have asked you but I would like to have a certain answer and decide what to finally use. Now I will do some things, then who wants and time answers me. I'd like to have an opinion from several people to compare the various answers and to dedicate what to do.
Plugin questions
If you had to use an AntiBot which one would you recommend? I know several of them (2LS AntiBot, AntiBotDeluxe and BotSentry) but I'm not very informed and I don't know which is better to use.
Do you know a good plugin that allows you to block VPN / Proxy and maybe even make the server accessible only to certain States?
Spigot / BungeeCord questions
As for BungeeCord, it's okay to use WaterFall a fork of BungeeCord, or a fork of WaterFall, also in this case I know 2 (Aegis and FlameCord), what do you recommend in this case too? I know, however, that often the forks are not updated often as for example FlameCord I am noticing and therefore they advised me to use in the past Waterfall, where in this case the updates are there almost every day.
Do you know some threads where they explain in detail what difference there is between 1.12.2 / 1.13.2 and 1.15.2, the versions I use most. I have a network and I am always in doubt as to whether to update every single mode to a version such as 1.15.2 which, from what they tell me, is having improvements. I have the Hub, PreHub, Bedwars and other small servers in 1.12.2 and only 1 in 1.8.8. Do you think I should update them to 1.13.2 or 1.15.2?
One last question about the versions, I have a faction that I have been planning to do for a few days and I am forced to do the server only since 1.13.2+, this is because 2 plugins that I have to use support only that version or newer versions. I was thinking of using 1.13.2 but do you think I should put 1.15.2 directly or is it okay that I leave 1.13.2? Does it change a lot in terms of performance?
undone hare
god damn
void void
I don't have a high level of English, I apologize in case there are grammatical errors
quartz peak
Holy shit this a text book
limber knotBOT
rip dumcord users
void void
I had to do it, I need advice from some of you
Holy shit this a text book
twin lagoon
ok let's see
If you had to use an AntiBot which one would you recommend? I know several of them (2LS AntiBot, AntiBotDeluxe and BotSentry) but I'm not very informed and I don't know which is better to use.
egg82 anti-vpn w/ proxycheck.io
quartz peak
From what i heard 1.13.2 was the last update before the change to combat
twin lagoon
As for BungeeCord, it's okay to use WaterFall a fork of BungeeCord, or a fork of WaterFall, also in this case I know 2 (Aegis and FlameCord), what do you recommend in this case too? I know, however, that often the forks are not updated often as for example FlameCord I am noticing and therefore they advised me to use in the past Waterfall, where in this case the updates are there almost every day.
waterfall w/ tcpshield
Do you know some threads where they explain in detail what difference there is between 1.12.2 / 1.13.2 and 1.15.2, the versions I use most. I have a network and I am always in doubt as to whether to update every single mode to a version such as 1.15.2 which, from what they tell me, is having improvements. I have the Hub, PreHub, Bedwars and other small servers in 1.12.2 and only 1 in 1.8.8. Do you think I should update them to 1.13.2 or 1.15.2?
stick to latest
One last question about the versions, I have a faction that I have been planning to do for a few days and I am forced to do the server only since 1.13.2+, this is because 2 plugins that I have to use support only that version or newer versions. I was thinking of using 1.13.2 but do you think I should put 1.15.2 directly or is it okay that I leave 1.13.2? Does it change a lot in terms of performance?
depends on your playercount, go for latest when possible
unkempt ridge
this seems like something that would be better to ask on forums. Paper has forums here: https://papermc.io/forums/
twin lagoon
paper forums 
void void
this seems like something that would be better to ask on forums. Paper has forums here: https://papermc.io/forums/
Ok, thanks
unkempt ridge
better than spamming a huge text wall :P
quartz peak
PS if you are running a bungecord/waterfall server with multiple different versions of java i would advise using ViaVersion @void void
limber knotBOT
I woud advise just using latest smh
autumn shoal
is the paper team all german?! oO
left swift
No
left swift
Also yes
void void
depends on your playercount, go for latest when possible
Ok, thank you,
Maybe wait until tonight before making a decision on what to use, maybe someone else can give me an answer. I would prefer to have opinions from multiple people so I can then compare the answers
quartz peak
I would too but blame the people that prefer playing on the old combat version
void void
phoenix do you have a hotkey for runs
limber knotBOT
TโnSโtrโikโerโ: they are a toxic bunch, just drop them
quartz peak
limber knotBOT
I have a /runs command, yes
quartz peak
good thing i dont run a faction server
void void
yeah pvp community tends to be toxic
left swift
Typing out /runs is the same as typing out runs
runs
void void
and then they go and cry about how everyone calls them toxic
quartz peak
I just run a 1.15.2 survival server
void void
ah theres this joke
autumn shoal
dude it was a serious question about german, watchin the stream, 2nd guy with german user interface ๐
void void
that the server admin runs a charity for strange people
limber knotBOT
nโomโanโasโenโdhโelโp: it would be /me runs though
void void
because they run an anarchy server
limber knotBOT
so yes, I save 3 characters
quartz peak
cough cough 2b2t
void void
nah 9b
limber knotBOT
Iโggโy: Minecraft is big in Germany
limber knotBOT
has always been big
slim nymph
im gonna be shocked if you think my accent is german lol
void void
lmao
autumn shoal
no urs sound murrican ๐
twin lagoon
aikar sounds southern
quartz peak
ngl aikar sounds American no hint of an accent
twin lagoon
aikar is as american as it can be
viral hornet
^^^
autumn shoal
trump voter, gmc car, 5 guns, living in texas? ๐
void void
how many native indians did he kill?
slim nymph
opposite on all but the guns, only 3 guns if counting hand guns ๐
quartz peak
why get a gmc car when you can get a chevy
twin lagoon
what guns
slim nymph
im that rare breed gun toting far left progressive
S&W 645, Ruger SR40, Smithfield XDS9 (CC)
autumn shoal
quartz peak
pfffffffff
slim nymph
i dont like the SR40 though, was my first, has bad trigger bite on me
left swift
Dont think it's that rare
slim nymph
slide bite*
quartz peak
fam has one but only due to homeless people roaming around more
slim nymph
ffs im so tired, why did i say trigger lol
void void
sleeeeep
slim nymph
that 645 is where its at though
magic river
It's pretty rare, for example I don't think you should be able to have anything semi-auto ๐
left swift
Yeah only full auto
cold pumice
Go (back?) To bed, Aikat ๐
left swift
That's all u need
slim nymph
i got dayjob work to do
void void
fuck them
quartz peak
NGL i did have fun with my dad at the gun range shooting his semi auto that is used for hunting but other that i dont dare touch that shit
we dont even hunt
undone hare
{
If tired = 'true'
run sleep.exe
Else
Codemore.mp4
}
twin lagoon
.mp4
vestal jasper
Ok I'm going to assume it is
undone hare
I can code a hello world message and thats about it
The most iv done is a c# code that tracks my dnd player/monster initiative
And thats some baby level shib for most people iv talked to
minor badge
it'd be nice if you could keep to a respectful vocabulary :)
proven wolf
is there going to be paper 1.16?
quartz peak
AIKAR sleep or else everyone will yell at you in vc
undone hare
@minor badge my apologies, edited the comment
minor badge
It's a work in progress, Dee
As it stands it.. kinda? runs; you should not use it on any world you care about whatsoever, as it might(/will tbh) fuck it up in one way or another
quartz peak
"Run" as in unstable at the time unless you brave enough to lose everything
zealous wedge
run is a strong word... i'd describe it as more like crawls
vestal jasper
@proven wolf no the work done on 1.16 and the announcements about it are lies
Oh they left lol
quartz peak
nah squirming for breath is better
minor badge
they were most likely kicked, Vic
vestal jasper
Yeah
magic river
@quartz peak is it in a chokehold?
quartz peak
damn it Amaranth almost got me there
quartz peak
tf the top of the water frozen? 
void void
your reward for compiling paper
minor badge
its not frozen lol
lean kiln
itโs the wrinkled plastic lol
limber knotBOT
lmao
sinful sequoia
nah it's frozen
magic river
That's the "stop the kids from killing themselves" film
Or maybe just the "stop the birds from shitting it up" film, can't tell how thick it is ๐
quartz peak
Minidigger vs pool.
Minidigger jumps in semi frozen pool
Pool: SO YOU HAVE CHOOSEN DETH
twin lagoon
ok
void void
ok
twin lagoon
he did the funny
subtle bridge
Guys
I heard that 1.16 Vanilla is going to have it's own like world management system-type thingy??? What's up with that??
tiny wharf
cedar spade
Datapacks can now define custom dimensions
subtle bridge
owo
cedar spade
It's not anything like Multiverse, but yeah it exists
quartz peak
might have to give multiverse a shot. Maybe i could make one world set to creative ๐ค
subtle bridge
So, It's better just to stick with mv... due to this new feature, will mv start getting an update to use this new feature?
limber knotBOT
TโnSโtrโikโerโ: if you want players to have unlimited items, sure
subtle bridge
And having mv-inventories would solve that issue :))
limber knotBOT
lol no
use different servers connected with bungee if you want creative
any per-world inventory plugin is exploitable
subtle bridge
Is it? I'm sure it controls echests, armor, your second hand, etc.
limber knotBOT
there's only so much you can do with plugins, certain actions can't easily be blocked or are straight up forgotten by authors
limber knotBOT
most in europe probably use OVH or Hetzner, but they are cheap and you get what you pay for ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
if you don't have money constraints look for smaller ones with purpose-built servers I guess
heavy jetty
Is a 9700k or 3600x better for hosting a server?
heavy jetty
ty
limber knotBOT
3600x/3900x if you have good memory and cooling
never had any issues with OVH but I'm not big so, lol
warm junco
better than RS 
twin lagoon
^
warm junco
a 9700k should be plenty
void void
8/8, Intel still leads in Gaming performance Iโd say
quartz peak
you can have separate inventories with multiverse huh..... feel like this could kill bungeecord
warm junco
yea but this is minecraft we talking about 
zealous wedge
nope, that long predates bungee
limber knotBOT
TโnSโtrโikโerโ: if you want exploits, feel free to use such a plugin lol
cedar spade
been around forever, been exploitable forever
quartz peak
tf you mean exploitable? i just want more worlds in the server than trying to run a bungeecord one with only 3gb of usable ram
limber knotBOT
I'm dissapointed that hypixel doesn't have an RGB motd yet ๐
unreal quarry
hugs his overclocked 7700k
Havent seen anything that justifies upgrading yet ^_^
limber knotBOT
1st: you wont run a big server on 3gb anyways
2nd: the only safe way is to run two separate servers
cedar spade
RGB motd would break on older clients
limber knotBOT
maybe if you don't do it right, lol
zealous wedge
client sends its protocol version iirc
quartz peak
not a big server just to a group of friends probably most ill do it 20-25. Right now i just have it set to 10
cedar spade
yeah just checked it does
zealous wedge
so you can customize serverside
cedar spade
so could be done
sick tendon
rgb motd uses closest color on older clients
zealous wedge
of course bukkit's SLPE is exclusively legacy
limber knotBOT
zealous wedge
ah you just do the packets yourself
zealous wedge
velocity doesn't have adventure yet ๐
once velocity goes adventure that's super easy
void void
right right :p
limber knotBOT
can't^
void void
my bad
limber knotBOT
also I would have to get MineDown-text working ;_;
limber knotBOT
no thanks :P
zealous wedge
all about that <rainbow>
limber knotBOT
yeah I want to add that too but that makes stuff a lot more annoying than it needs to be, lol
heavy jetty
If the 3600x and 9700k are both the same price and have good cooling, would the 9700k be better?
zealous wedge
no
stray oyster
Depends on what you need Pempkin
crystal compass
Intel > amd for gaming
heavy jetty
it's for hosting a bungee with four servers on it
crystal compass
Oh
lament patio
Then the 3600x is better
crystal compass
Well intel has way better single core performance than amd
stray oyster
I for one had to choose team blue because of very specific instructions that AMD doesnโt have and that take a lot to emulate constantly on AMD
crystal compass
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
heavy jetty
hmm
crystal compass
But amd you can pay 9$ to get about 3635283 cores so if you wanted to host 94637392 servers
void void
The fuck? Some hosts are offering seperate threads and the ability to edit flags
worth or no
which instructions five
waxen panther
heavy jetty
The ability to edit flags is definitely worth it, idk why all hosts don't do that
minor badge
I've been running AMD both on servers in the past and my entire personal computer life; I'm definitely biased towards it for consumer use, but for servers it's more iffy
stray oyster
@ Sam ever licensed Microsoft stuff for virtual environments? You license per system core in your servers and double if you have hyperthreading enabled
crystal compass
In my opinion amd is better for office use yeah
Their single core performance is worse and they run hotter/use more power
But
500 cores to do a lot of different shit unless you're just running one intensive application
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
I use a ryzen for my server
Works great
Intel for le computer
unreal quarry
More cores = more browser tabs
crystal compass
Exactly
void void
Ryzens much more focused on multitasking work- Intel is more focused on gaming
crystal compass
More brazzers
void void
just consider it that
crystal compass
Yep
void void
Less threads but faster, same cores = gaming
crystal compass
When do we get nvidia cpu
signal light
minor badge
Their single core performance is worse and they run hotter/use more power
i7-10700K & Ryzen 3900X are pretty comparable in performance; Intel one runs 20W higher in TDP, so this is definitely false
crystal compass
Then great balue
void void
I still havenโt read up on performance reports for 10th gen
Anything outstanding yet or no?
unreal quarry
hugs his 4790k
It's ok. You still get the job done just as much as these bigger, badder chips ;)
void void
I heard that the prices arenโt as outrageous for 10th gen this time around, but I havenโt looked quite yet
minor badge
the prices aren't insane, no; they've defo gone down for consumer processors, but no clue about server & workstation ones
void void
I know what Iโm about to do today in my free time then
lament patio
10th gen is decent. Some performance gains, temperatures are better compared to the last gen but power consumption is very high
void void
Well powerโs to be expected, itโs been fuck all these past years
celest coyote
billy the chips are actually smaller though
sweet musk
why is everyone in vc?
vernal moth
Party!
magic river
Why not?
sweet musk
any specific reason?
sweet musk
staff revealing something idfk
void void
staff doing minecraft 1.17 jar giveaway
sweet musk
obv but what about 1.16 XD
void void
wtf wtf wtf wtf
waxen panther
sweet musk
imma install linux on my laptop soon
dense field
8 or 14?
dense field
Best java for paper?
dense field
๐ ๐ฑ
void void
use whatever works for you
Linux on your laptop? Rip to half of your support unless you actually know what the fuck youโre doing
void void
i run my servers with 14
waxen panther
9+ had some nice improvements
dense field
And what if the hosting does not want to put?
sweet musk
Linux on your laptop? Rip to half of your support unless you actually know what the fuck youโre doing
@void void im familiar with it, i used it to revive an old laptop
waxen panther
What does your host offer you
void void
waxen panther
If itโs shared normally you can change the java version
Cuz theyโre shit
Canโt change**
dense field
No, linux is good
@waxen panther nothing
Only stupid supprt
But 2 dollars for 2 Gb / mounth
void void
The fuck? $2 on what version?
waxen panther
Well a $2 server will get like 4tps on 1.13+
void void
Might as well go free at that point
stray oyster
No
hardy trout
does somebody know if and when Aikar will stream?
stray oyster
No ๐ฎ
waxen panther
Whereโs mine wtf
unreal quarry
Lol at that slogan
fallen oracle
Imagine not being on 1.16.1 Paper right now.
hardy trout
and btw have a nice meal xD
fallen oracle
Barty, hop on the server.
waxen panther
I go to Italy every year and itโs really not as big of a deal as viper makes it out to be
stray oyster
waxen panther
Even Italians there say itโs exaggerated
But, it is a little nicer
Normally the base is nicerer
void void
Fuck dominoes gang
chrome scroll
you take that back
void void
Pizza Hut eats your heart out bitch
chrome scroll
dominos is epic
unreal quarry
Cici's pizza is best ^_^
waxen panther
Viper u brain is tiny
finite wave
Go away you furry shit
waxen panther
Youโre comparing restaurant pizza to quick take away pizza
slim nymph
this place is called Chanellos
waxen panther
fr barty
void void
At least itโs better than little caesarโs
waxen panther
Viper makes my brain go numb
finite wave
Viper makes everyones brain go numb 
pulsar wigeon
square cut pizza
unreal quarry
But the $5 hot n ready, kazi..m
pulsar wigeon
where is our :triggered: emote
unreal quarry
It's reeaaddy
waxen panther
The square cut a bit of a sin tho ngl
left swift
@restive knot
void void
you monster
unreal quarry
All pizza is good, imho, as long as it doesn't have fucking pineapples
restive knot
no
restive knot
i'm not here
pulsar wigeon
and i'll ban anyone who wants to fight me :^)
left swift
wiz puts ice cubes in his cereal
pulsar wigeon
nah i warm the milk
magic river
No anchovies or taco pizza either
finite wave
stray oyster
I eat pizza with honey in the crust fight me
void void
You can pretty up shit but it will always be shit
stray oyster
๐
void void
restive knot
taco pizza
waxen panther
Banned
magic river
Taco pizza is a crime against humanity
restive knot
pizza taco
void void
Taco pizza? Hispanics are getting in the loop as well now?
slim nymph
this pizza is too large to be normal cut lol
void void
magic river
Nah, that's a tex-mex thing afaik
twin lagoon
that's a good fuckin pizza
void void
Do you put toothpaste on your teeth directly before brushing as well
waxen panther
Sqaure cut is too messy for me
unreal quarry
Hey aikar. Cut in 8 or 12 slices? https://youtu.be/cemgBNqGpi0
magic river
TIL taco pizza was invented in the 1970s in Iowa, no wonder it's everywhere here
W A
magic river
restive knot
17x3=51
left swift
spicy territory here barty
unreal quarry
Cici's is my fav
left swift
dominos
restive knot
papa john's
left swift
papa bless
magic river
I think Cici's is only in the midwest?
unreal quarry
Is it?
restive knot
no cici's where i live
magic river
32 states, started in Texas
unreal quarry
Texas! \o/
magic river
Cici's is really cheap pizza buffet
left swift
buffet pizza places 
๐ ๐ช
unreal quarry
Fuck yeah. $6 all you can eat
magic river
American Pizza is way different from Italian though
left swift
so is every other type of food
finite wave
Pizza is an American thing?
magic river
Italians who moved to New York invented the thing most of us think of when we think of pizza
restive knot
pizza adapted to america and split off from the original species
finite wave
Yaeh, american pizza is just the get fat quick diet right?
left swift
food in general is the fat quick diet
unreal quarry
Well, that's my cue to leave chat, since the America haters are out n about now
Laters o/
restive knot
ya no grease on italian pizza smh
left swift
๐บ๐ธ #๏ธโฃ 1๏ธโฃ
restive knot
poetic
restive knot
fake
finite wave
magic river
margherita pizza is the classic Italian style
void void
Figures, Iโm not cultured enough for this discussion
Retreat back to my nationalistic korean bubble
magic river
lol, Florida isn't closing bars because that'd be a lockdown and they don't do those anymore but they banned drinking alcohol at them
peak dirge
Florida will do whatever the fuck Florida wants to do
vast granite
Hey guys do you know when paper for 1.16 will be out
peak dirge
@vast granite #724929044105265153
deft tapir
with an rtp plugin is there a max block limit you wouldn't recommend allowing it to go past or is it usually fine to be at long distances from spawn
twin lagoon
when it's out
peak dirge
Very early builds exist, but are extremely unstable
1.15.2 isn't going to lose all support immediately, so keep running 1.15.2
pulsar wigeon
don't even bother trying to tell them builds exist tbh
that's the kind of person who will run them anyway and complain that they don't work
void void
peak dirge
rip, will keep in mind wiz
crystal compass
Yeah bro go download 1.16.1 rn available at your local paper github page
Extremely stable
I am running it on my server with 379 players online 23.9 tps constant
Im selling hoglins in server store
Making profit
waxen panther
People will believe that
austere star
./scripts/remap.sh: line 75: mvn: command not found
Failed to build Paper
sell server tps boost in store, and intentionally lag the server by running 1.16.1
austere star
chrome scroll
you dont have maven installed
chrome scroll
@warm marsh about 9.12
void void
.eta
crystal compass
Delete your msg quick
limber knotBOT
Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.
void void
Literally GOBLINS
crystal compass
Shaggy quick delete your msg
austere star
cant join tough
celest coyote
Go in waiting room
austere star
building rn
hot thunder
is that why gen is so full
austere star
warm marsh
yeah ik now
austere star
lol WARNING: An illegal reflective access operation has occurred
crystal compass
austere star
when i trying to build papermc
waxen schooner
warm marsh
whats vc
austere star
dindt know it was illigeal
unreal quarry
You're not going to like the results @austere star ^_^
austere star
why did i get kicked omeglul
marble raven
How do y'all typically configure your LuckPerms and Essentials? I want to use it but it looks like the time it'd take to do it right is dummy thicc
marble raven
I suppose that's true. I haven't really hosted MC servers since like, 1.7 - so the fact that you could just pull your new perms from a config server was neat for a change
kind plaza
whos streaming rn
median crane
waxen panther
@kind plaza kenny is
kind plaza
does andyone have the link?
void void
spigot is killing my server paper when pepehands
kind plaza
ph nvcm found it
waxen panther
@void void silence
waxen panther
Erm
void void
"Help"
Uploads an image that nobody hasn't a slightest fucking clue of what it is without a description
I got one
Help
help
how tf are people putting paper into prod if lightning doesnt even work
kindred storm
Let them destroy.
quartz zephyr
Anyone know of a good sign editing plugin with factions and blocklocker support?
austere ivy
I just made a tiny little sign editing plugin and I just forgot to have it ignore cancelled events, thank you for reminding me.
https://github.com/ItsTehBrian/YetAnotherSignEditor if youโre any interested.
burnt sandal
Epic gamer moment @slim nymph
austere ivy
@quartz zephyr what kind of blocklocker and factions support would you be looking for, though?
right Iโm assuming Iโd just need to ignore cancelled events then, Iโll try that out and see if factions doesnโt let me edit there then
quartz zephyr
@austere ivy
A sign editor that would not bypass blocklocker locks and allow editing in other faction's lands
austere ivy
Iโll test them all >:D
quasi valley
quasi valley
it has stained glass panes in it. it absolutely blew me away 
wide chasm
Either full stained glass blocks or panes afaik
void void
The fuck?! I've always thought it had to be full stained...
holy shit it does work.
fallen oracle
Cat, I ended up picking up some mango today. It had been awhile.
Forgot how good it tasted.
median crane
native ginkgo
Minecraft support in a nutshell
vernal moth
It's not support
vestal jasper
I mean people here often judge other people's code when it's notably bad
native ginkgo
What hosting companies do you use lmaooo
PebbleHost just upgraded their prem servers
They have full ticket support on dsicoed, its nice
Discord*
fml haha
hahahahaha
potent fossil
good god i keep watching ppl taking their first solos and i wanna get! my! PPL!
im way too lazy
solo flight, private pilot license
im not its just a fever dream atm
i could go buy the ground school course but i need to save up more before i drop on that
thanks dad
void void
umm.. do i have to explain the story to you?
potent fossil
i know the story, im being sarcastic
void void
phew
mighty storm
Wait, is Kotlin made by Jetbrains?
potent fossil
yes
void void
simple
potent fossil
kotlin is a nice language, but i do like java
void void
mo kotlin mo problems
potent fossil
java is my main
void void
same
potent fossil
kotlin is fun though
native ginkgo
Yea Shared hosting is much cheaper, but if you're planning to run a network, just get OVH lmao
mighty storm
this but with kotlin and java
minor badge
@potent fossil sexc
potent fossil
no u
mighty storm
sxe*
waxen panther
upper flicker
thats a nice meme youve got there
native ginkgo
mighty storm
we got the jetbrains toolbox bois
native ginkgo
everyone run
spice finch
upper flicker
I wasnt actually going to tell anyone to go to memes
mighty storm
that's not a meme, it's a meme template, if i actualy made the meme it'd be in #memes
minor badge
dammit wiz :(
upper flicker
was leigitmately a nice meme
waxen panther
latest version of tool๐
ฑ๏ธox is broken on big sur, had to downgrade 
upper flicker
thanks though kids
pulsar wigeon
yw dad
native ginkgo
but like, it was part of this convo haha
minor badge
i'm just not gonna update toolbox till i need to
mighty storm
are you running big sur on a production machine ๐
upper flicker
yes
waxen panther
Yep!
minor badge
they borked it in v1.17 or whatever so now it'll stay on 16 forever
waxen panther
I have a few macs and it's not really a big deal, haven't had any major issues
mighty storm
bruh, didnt Catalina have an issue where it just wouldnt boot and you had to restore?
waxen panther
if it did, I didn't get it
upper flicker
that was an awful beta cycle
mighty storm
one of the dev versions did
native ginkgo
wait, people code on MacOS?
waxen panther
i run the dev previews every year
potent fossil
i updated catalina in production and 85% of my apps broke
mighty storm
A lot of people code on MacOS, you need a Mac to build iOS apps
native ginkgo
MacOS updates break everything
waxen panther
?
kindred storm
?
potent fossil
i haven't been using my macbook because the battery
native ginkgo
thats true
upper flicker
was on every developer release they shipped and I never had it stop booting
had plenty of other issues
kindred storm
my macbook because the battery
waxen panther
You clearly have no idea what you're talking about ham
mighty storm
I'm running iOS 14 on production device because screw it it's just a phone
minor badge
@waxen panther youre my idea if u know what im talking abt ๐ณ
native ginkgo
You clearly have no idea what you're talking about ham
@waxen panther what are you referring to
waxen panther
Updates don't usually break everything lol, the only issues I've ever had with macos have been on the dev versions
and that's to be expected
@minor badge 
native ginkgo
eh, I was reffering to like Final Cut and other media editing apps
They dont like new MacOS haha
Referring
waxen panther
You realise how big of a architectural change Big Sur is right?
mighty storm
so big it's macOS 11
waxen panther
Of course everything isn't going to support ARM out the box... they were never designed to
native ginkgo
didnt they do a big change on Catelina though?
mighty storm
the big change on Catalina was no more 32-bit apps
upper flicker
they clearly made that decision late in the game
waxen panther
catalina dropped 32bit support, anyone that was still 32 bit was their problem tbh
mighty storm
like iOS 11 I believe?
native ginkgo
yea im suprised shit still comes 32-bit
mighty storm
I'm still on Mojave
median crane
check my gpu
upper flicker
theyll have it all consistent as 11.0 by release though
median crane
mighty storm
My website uses Sign in with Apple so I would really love to update, I also need it for Xcode
native ginkgo
at least you guys dont get an update where Microsoft Edge takes over and becomes the dafault browser haha
mighty storm
Unpopular opinion, safari is great and it's the browser I use the most
spice finch
but not sure tho
waxen panther
It's more than a popup lol
native ginkgo
it happened to a select few people on Windows
kindred storm
safari is terrible
native ginkgo
Opera = best
waxen panther
Safari used to be pretty bad but recently it's gotten pretty amazing
native ginkgo
itsa joke I dont use Opera
mighty storm
Opera was best then Vivaldi came out lol
waxen panther
I've been trying it out on Big Sur and if I didn't do so much web dev I'd probably switch to it tbh
kindred storm
opera used too much memory
inner wadi
https://i.imgur.com/CLF8BhL.png Love the new hex stuff now we just need it so we can colour strikes and underlines separate and add shadows ๐
spice finch
I noticed 2 changes - new password secured wifi icon and new default avatar
mighty storm
Vivaldi is my go-to for Chromium
potent fossil
i cant stand vivaldi tbh
native ginkgo
opera used too much memory
@kindred storm cries in chrome
mighty storm
Safari has a translator and tracker blocker built in now, now I really have no reason to switch lol
kindred storm
google chrome
mighty storm
it has some unique dev tools though, I'll give it that
inner wadi
I switched from Chrome to Brave runs a lot better
kindred storm
^
native ginkgo
im that guy who just uses chrome and watched it use 16GB of RAM
spice finch
"unique dev tools" one example?
waxen panther
It has really good mobile testing integration
where you can inspect element on device
mighty storm
I'll say built in because you can easily get them with extensions on other browsers, here's the list
native ginkgo
thats Brave?
kindred storm
other browsers had that long before safari
lament patio
I've switched from Brave to Firefox and it runs quite a bit worse, but hey, colored tabs and themes
mighty storm
that's safari
native ginkgo
Gott have them themes
mighty storm
I havent seen any chromium browser with built in user agent changer and disable javascript/etc with one click
waxen panther
Brave is just Chrome with a built in ad blocker and a few flags preset
waxen panther
for everyone it's a meme
native ginkgo
Then what is the best?
kindred storm
lol
mighty storm
Internet Explorer is the best, undisputed
native ginkgo
lmao
native ginkgo
you still have IE installed?
waxen panther
I have better things to do than spend the 8 years it takes to clean up windows
mighty storm
eye e
limber knotBOT
void void
VPS > Shared or the other way around folks?
mighty storm
hold on, what the heck is Hรถchste รผbereinstimmung
limber knotBOT
"Best match"
native ginkgo
why is that the only thing translated ๐
limber knotBOT
or are you asking what the program is, lol?
mighty storm
Shared you just get a portion of a VPS, VPS you get a portion of a Dedi, dedi you get the whole box (I think)
native ginkgo
I like the chrome sync
obsidian crater
