lol, its not too bad to deal with imo but sometimes its annoying
#general
worn ember
especially when you start on naked brutality with just one colonist
mood is pretty ok rn lol
true 
must be no table
ive literally had my last colonist go on a mental break when the base was on fire
or when ur only colonist is incapable of medical and just bleeds out
well, it mostly depends on the skill and the quality of the weapon
and the gear
theres a lot of factors to account for
eh, some weapons are less accurate at close range
i've been playing on merciless the entire game on naked brutality
hadnt really had much issues with mechanoids so far
just melee the lancers to death lol
yeah centipedes are nasty
sharp sentinel
There are definitely strategies that make centipedes easy to fight
worn ember
lmao
sharp sentinel
I never open the ancient danger until I can handle one tbh
worn ember
speaking of which, i had a raid i barely survived, the raiders fled and decided to mine the wall of the ancient danger and they wiped the rest of my colony lmao
sad way to end
you can EMP them for a while
until they adapt and ur fuckt
olive patio
I'm swapping over to gradle atm and I just tried using the shadow plugin and everything compiles and runs but the contents of the dependencies I shadowed do not get included in the final jar. My new root build: https://hasteb.in/wudakaso.gradle My new subproject build: https://hasteb.in/igujezir.gradle
olive patio
LUL
finite wave
Who is andrew
fallen oracle
hop in waiting-room and you will be dragged in.
true canyon
Andrew is the reason the nightmare known as spigot exists
proud lance
what is happening in the locked general
olive patio
vibing
drowsy urchin
test
latent valve
subtle bridge
Why is general VC locked?
warm anchor
Kids man lol
subtle bridge
Thanks!!
ocean moon
who is jroy
worn ember
mfw 41 manhunting rats
finite wave
@cunning raft is jroy
ocean moon
relax jroy
cunning raft
you relax
olive patio
no jroy you relax 
cunning raft
you relax
olive patio
cunning raft
you re@lax
waxen panther
@LaxIsNotHere 
olive patio
lax is indeed not here
void void
lax got banned?
short yarrow
why so many people in VC
olive patio
VIBING
cunning raft
@slim nymph lemme in
tame pendant
this man tho
void void
omg modded discord, reeeeeeport
tame pendant
that was forwarded to me lol, i'm using the regular discord like the saint i am
waxen panther
criminal!!!
warm junco
reported
lament patio
Why mod it to make the text red?
tame pendant
¯_(ツ)_/¯
half wing
It's based on the role color
worn ember
Seems like spigot 1.16.1 is out
ebon pier
Yep, looks like it just came out
half wing
not shown on https://hub.spigotmc.org/versions/
half wing
nice
worn ember
Probably no builds yet idk
celest coyote
hot musk
Inb4 the spigot spam comes here 
half wing
basically the same server
hot musk
It's only a matter of time
warm junco
nice one
half wing
Not falling for it this time 😎
celest coyote
Watch Aikar develop Paper for 1.16.1
https://www.twitch.tv/aikaradora
flat plover
its real @half wing
half wing
Lol ik i'm joking
blissful mica
this time is real xd
celest coyote
hes streaming it
potent fossil
link
celest coyote
literally above
potent fossil
link
celest coyote
are you blind
potent fossil
yes
celest coyote
potent fossil
shut matrix
beautiful mountains. but what about paper 1.16? Kappa
half wing
How long does paper take
celest coyote
.eta
limber knotBOT
Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.
half wing
lol
pulsar wigeon
pls dont post distasteful content here
void void
ew goblins
sacred bobcat
Spigot is out
sacred bobcat
Lmao
hallow stratus
Slightly...
fallen sleet
nothing in #announcements ?
cursive whale
@waxen panther where is livestream
waxen panther
half wing
it's pinned
golden gust
God damned trhing tryna send when I didn't tell it do, dum space
ornate spindle
10/10 announcement
waxen panther
r u ok
golden gust
no
tender swift
Paper Team good luck on the patch shenanigans ❤️
waxen panther
cobalt surge
Don't make me lick you cat
shell vine
cobalt surge
👅 👅 👅
fallen sleet
^
potent fossil
oh he was replying to somebody in YT chat
olive patio
can someone link the commit for the changes in textcomponent/basecomponent for the new hex color codes? I want to see if it uses org.bukkit.Color or what for setting colors for components
i couldnt find it in md_5's commits
mighty storm
why do we have 2 thinksmart emojis lol
potent fossil
where String is hex
left swift
why not use mixer to stream 
mighty storm
bruh boxcast is the best
olive patio
what do you mean support rgb?
mighty storm
md_5 changed the enum to a class in the bungee api but not the spigot api
olive patio
org.bukkit's Color has the fromRGB(r, g, b) method though? does that not support all colors?
the javadocs say it accepts an int 0-255
waxen panther
Hello to you too zzzCat.
mighty storm
owo it's mja
mild rune
md_5 put the updated hex color stuff in the main post about the update.
Right under his announcement
olive patio
ok sick cool
spiral robin
What does no table role mean
chrome fulcrum
potent fossil
@spiral robin it means they are not fortunate enough to have tables
chrome fulcrum
Switching from youtube in a few.
mighty storm
yeah they have no tables, very sad
spiral robin
...
potent fossil
they have to eat on the floor
mighty storm
(remove the space)
left swift
they sold their tables to buy pc parts to use paper
cobalt surge
They are banned from having a table
celest coyote
@golden gust change the pin to the twitch
celest coyote
actually nvm ill edit mine
pale oxide
soo....um progress percentage?
slender jay
.eta
limber knotBOT
Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.
pale oxide
😭
limber knotBOT
Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.
potent fossil
someone kick that dude
olive patio
so im looking through the chatcolor stuff for rgb/hex support ... is it literally just doing like §xFFFFFF internally? that's a mess
grand pewter
ya
olive patio
my brain is fried 
celest coyote
0 patches done 😉
blissful mica
thats what i like to hear
mighty storm
why is everyone asking for eta, that's just a letter of the greek alphabet tf you mean is there one
waxen panther
I think they're spelling eat wrong
sacred bobcat
Rgb?
mighty storm
are gee bee
cobalt surge
No broccokasi they are spelling tea wrong
mighty storm
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/503000180208041985/722975775912886580/unknown.png you can finally do stuff like this
sacred bobcat
Tea?
waxen panther
I could go for some tea rn 
cobalt surge
Lol
potent fossil
I knew that was coming
cobalt surge
See they are spelling it wrong
potent fossil
Minecraft has entered the modern era
sacred bobcat
Yass
potent fossil
go to spigot and ask.
mighty storm
why is general locked
mighty storm
oh is that because of raids or whatever
potent fossil
idk probably
earnest trail
How can I download the 1.16 spigot first??
@subtle bridge
Spigot and BungeeCord 1.16.1 are now available. Please see https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/447405/ for more information.
Reminder that BuildTools is the only supported means of obtaining the Spigot server jar.
abstract dagger
hype
cobalt surge
Glare gotta accept you first
ebon pier
Anytime have that Twitch link?
fallen oracle
Click Aikar's name on member list.
mighty storm
fiery coral
1.16 hype!
potent fossil
how nice
sterile pilot
does paper not have a donate link?
i feel like we should bribe aikar while he's streaming
worn ember
There's one on the website
sterile pilot
ah i was on the main site, thanks
worn ember
Doesn't go to Aikar tho
sterile pilot
zach can buy aikar tacos
worn ember
I think it goes to Z yeah
warm anchor
it goes to project as a whole iirc. The flag one goes to Aikar?
worn ember
Z pays for the servers iirc
sterile pilot
yeah. gonna drop them a few bucks for hopping on the update so quickly.
slate seal
Donation train?
thorny totem
yes
slate seal
do eeet
thorny totem
time to test out plogons now
waxen panther
hot
warm anchor
like you 
@waxen panther
waxen panther
more like you 
potent fossil
Z's buying tacos tonight
white lark
the spigot 1.16 version is now here
void flower
celest coyote
also pinned
mighty storm
1.16.1
earnest trail
Hey can we be dragged in @moderator
white lark
:D
fallen oracle
👍
earnest trail
Appreciate it!
warm anchor
join waiting room if you want to sit in and listen I think 
they will pull you in. There was spammer earlier iirc
mighty storm
the - instead of space in the voice channel name bothers me
grand pewter
discord doesnt allow spaces
vast idol
*watches 500 people move from spigot discord to Paper discord instantly *
grand pewter
wat
gleaming finch
yeah
grand pewter
oh right yeah well whatever
gleaming finch
capital letters too, although, neither really bug me
viral hornet
Yayyyy
magic river
net.minecraft.server
half wing
no man's sky
round sleet
How bad of a performance downgrade will I get if I use Spigot until Paper for 1.16 comes out
magic river
50%
left swift
atleast this many
whole sandal
That was fast
granite locust
:wierdmana:
tranquil wind
1.16 paper is out or just api?
fallen oracle
API.
scenic ember
What’s the difference between the full release and API
fallen oracle
One is a server, one isn't.
austere ivy
Poetic.
waxen panther
Truly era-defining words
earnest cape
An ever life-changing articulation.
scenic ember
So API isn’t the server?
golden gust
no
mellow mulch
thank
austere ivy
API says to the plugin developers "oh yes, you can tell this block to disappear and the block to reappear and the server will do that!! very cool stuff indeed!"
the server is the one that actually makes the block disappear, handles the block disappearing, shows the block disappearing to all the players, stores the fact that the block has disappeared in the world, etc..
scenic ember
Oh so then paper 1.16 is half done
earnest trail
Hey @fallen oracle mind dragging me in one more time? I switched to my desktop
fallen oracle
👍
austere ivy
we say that the server "implements" the API because the server looks at what the API says and goes "oh yeah I need to make sure I handle making blocks disappear and reappear because API says I need to do that"
earnest trail
Appreciate it!
austere ivy
The implementation is usually harder than the API.
What's easier, saying that you can doMathTest() or actually doing the math test?
cosmic raft
mighty storm
aww
austere ivy
that's amazing
mighty storm
how do i get purr role
austere ivy
I'll second that ^
mighty storm
viral hornet
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628878373950586880/725224835621322772/Snapchat-1906612209.jpg
mighty storm
cold pumice
Awwh, toe beans on that second one
mighty storm
toe beans?
cold pumice
mighty storm
one sec
potent fossil
woah WOAH WOAH
you people are breaking the law
@cosmic raft , request immediate placement into purr role so they can be escorted to #adorable-pets
quartz peak
bruh that was the fucking fastest 1.16 fork launch lol
waxen panther
?
austere ivy
I'm feelin' a bit too tired to go out and research, can someone tl;dr me on if §x§r§r§g§g§b§b is actually happening?
ancient bolt
ooh intellij 2020.2 has "related problems" view now like visual studio
magic river
It's actually happening
austere ivy
That's gonna be a pain for end users.
austere ivy
say some user is using some custom item plugin, instead of &xrrggbb or &#rrggbb they'll have to type in &x&r&r&g&g&b&bwhich I imagine many plugins will override tbh
parse it themselves I suppose
magic river
The point of it is to not break existing parsers
So long as they ignore modifiers they don't understand they'll keep working
austere ivy
I can get that but won't that just output the completely wrong color?
magic river
?
austere ivy
instead of not parsing it as a color at all, wouldn't it put out the wrong color?
magic river
Vanilla doesn't support any of these formats
austere ivy
vanilla does #rrggbb doesn't it?
magic river
The parser in the server that is going to convert it for you understands that when it sees §x it needs to read the next 6 as the color code
No, vanilla only has this in the component-based chat
austere ivy
oh okay, right because you can do /tellraw {"color":"#rrggbb"} and that's component
magic river
Yeah
austere ivy
seems like a solution that will make everyone equally unhappy ;p
void void
it is what it is
magic river
A parser that doesn't know about this new system doesn't know what to do with §x§9§2§5§a§f§f and might apply the wrong styling but at least it won't leave part of the color code in the final string or die
round sleet
is this a duper?
magic river
That or a lag machine
magic river
Yeah, that's what I said, lag machine
magic river
As a user I hate the way legacy RGB works but if I was still working on CraftBukkit that's probably what I would have implemented
austere ivy
I understand that, but it's setting up the future
magic river
So, kudos to md_5 for finding a solution that's unlikely to break backwards compat
round sleet
smh does spigot not even have colored output
austere ivy
I suppose so, yes, I just find it irritating that it seems we're never going to say "alright this is a breaking change so that we can clean up everything"
Instead of 8 characters for the user to represent RGB we have 14 characters. It just seems frustrating, that's all.
austere ivy
net.minecraft.server, usually when people say "NMS" they're plugin developers referring to tinkering with servers beyond the API
austere ivy
uncharted land, dragons be there ;p
rigid jewel
:v
austere ivy
instead of nice methods like Bukkit.getAllPlayers() you have MinecraftServer.a().b().helicopter().train()
It's not a very fun place :(
waxen panther
lol
acoustic lodge
oh godf oh fuck what is that
potent fossil
i thought it was just a normal hex code
round sleet
anyone else hate that one kid on your server who's obsessed with building stupid farms that rely on glitchy vanilla mechanics and thus don't work with paper
austere ivy
@acoustic lodge I like your avatar.
acoustic lodge
real men use decimal numbers
zealous wedge
components were added in 1.7 🙂
zealous wedge
oh plugin authors are
zealous wedge
there are even nice abstraction layers on top of components for a nice syntax
potent fossil
looks at adventure
austere ivy
I'm still using translateAlternateColorCodes in all my plugins internally, but for rgb anything I'll jump ship over to components.
potent fossil
oh my god
potent fossil
fucking brian
austere ivy
,_,
potent fossil
back to what i was doing
austere ivy
I'm switching I'm moving I'll do it when I update my plugins
I just haven't really looked into components that much, that's all
zealous wedge
legacy colour codes just get so confusing to read the moment you start combining formatting and color codes
and when you do short things
austere ivy
How would I have my users write configurable messages for components anyway?
zealous wedge
look at what i linked
austere ivy
adventure? I'll take a second look at it.
neat smelt
no
zealous wedge
i have another project that i need to rewrite to work on things newer than java 10: https://gitlab.com/stellardrift/featherchat/-/blob/master/src/main/resources/ca/stellardrift/featherchat/default.conf which uses moustache templates
so admins can define their own reusable message fragments
austere ivy
I store all my messages in config.yml so users can easily edit/translate all of it, I plan on moving stuff to messages.yml eventually
how would they be able to write that they wanted it, say, red, if I was using components? can MiniMessage translate legacy color codes?
limber knotBOT
just...let them write in minimessage syntax?
austere ivy
although I'd love for everything to be modern and components and whatnot, &4 for red and &6 for orange and all that is just hammered into people's heads
zealous wedge
they've had 6 years to do the new thing
austere ivy
we're developing software for the end user, not for ourselves, right?
zealous wedge
i'd like some sort of global system to define color schemes too
potent fossil
as a developer, it's your job to use the new standard and make sure that users are comfortable with it
by bowing down and staying on legacy you are actually just saying "im shit, i wont update, i will bend to your whims"
just like ppl who run 1.8
zealous wedge
so you could say main and highlight are #eeff22 and #bbcc44
and then just refer to main and highlight
potent fossil
i need to watch the 2nd fantastic beasts movie
austere ivy
1.8 is old, that's true, but do most users consider &0-9a-f "legacy"?
1.16 rgb colors probably blew their minds
potent fossil
it doesn't matter what the user thinks
they aren't the people coding
they do not get an opinion on that
zealous wedge
your job is to balance the future and the present
potent fossil
lol
zealous wedge
the users only think about the present
austere ivy
right, but, we're developing software for them, not to show off to other developers and proclaim how good we are at developing
I do see your guys' points completely, absolutely 100%
potent fossil
dear god
austere ivy
and I agree
austere ivy
I'm just saying trying to get people to adapt to a completely new standard is hard
I won't lol
people don't have to use my plugins
zealous wedge
the client will iirc still parse legacy when it's in a Component
austere ivy
I'm not supporting legacy because now it's double-legacy
I just still think that most users will have a rough time adapting
that's all
zealous wedge
it's an easier system lol
potent fossil
give them a link to a color picker and say "copy the # and the six chars after"
they i think will actually enjoy that more
that flexibility is insane
austere ivy
that's not what it is, though?
zealous wedge
it lets you personalize your server so much more
zealous wedge
and remember that there are just as many new server admins as there are old ones
potent fossil
you dont need to force them to do it manually
zealous wedge
probably more who are just getting started
potent fossil
my lord
zealous wedge
so it's just as important to think of the learning curve
austere ivy
I see what you're saying, sorry I misunderstood
potent fossil
yes, you can make it easy on the user (potentially even easier than current system to an extent) but still embrace current technologies instead of staying on legacy
it isnt hard
austere ivy
so, in practice, let's say I wanted to print out a message with color that the user specifies in config.yml
with the new system, what would they have to write in the config.yml?
MiniMessage's syntax I suppose?
potent fossil
that would be preferable once he updates it to 1.16
probably
or you can design your own system
austere ivy
what's spigot's way of doing it?
potent fossil
component builder
austere ivy
parsing external strings, say from a config?
potent fossil
minimessage takes your string and runs it through component builder
no, that would be legacy
minimessage runs your string through the modern system
austere ivy
so there's no way to not use legacy if you want to allow users to specify their own colors while only depending on spigot?
potent fossil
correct
i mean, you can let them do the ugly way of specifying colors
but that's not user friendly
so design a way to make it prettier...
or use minimessage.....
austere ivy
what about something like what Mojang does with tellraw?
austere ivy
yup.
potent fossil
components......
austere ivy
is there a way to parse a string as json and run that through component builder?
is that what minimessage does?
potent fossil
define each message as a json file and make them edit that
it parses its own tags into json yes
austere ivy
seems more user friendly than §x§r§r§g§g§b§b lol
potent fossil
that's the point
minimessage makes it easier while still using json message components
as opposed to parsing legacy strings
austere ivy
ignoring the fact that it's not backwards compatible, wouldn't §#rrggbb be better?
potent fossil
idk why they didnt do that
neat smelt
@void void in vanilla jedenfalls schon
potent fossil
they probably have a reason
austere ivy
backwards compatibility
I have a strong dislike for being forced to use external libs because Spigot doesn't provide them for you and the entire community agrees it's not good
I dunno I just feel like if no one uses something because it's not good and it's not "good practice" then maybe it should be swapped out for something better
neat smelt
make paper spigot independent lel
potent fossil
they do provide it for you
it's called the fucking component builder
they dont provide a fucking string parser
which is not their problem
you can parse individual fields in your config
instead of a string
minimessage lets you do strings
so get over it, or use it
austere ivy
ok ok jeez
potent fossil
i have a strong dislike for people not knowing the full context and still managing to be disgruntled somehow
austere ivy
I see your point, I'll give minimessage a try, thanks
potent fossil
and now to set up configurate for this project
@zealous wedge you made that, right
zealous wedge
ya
potent fossil
hot
zealous wedge
❤️
we really need to move away from the concept of one monolithic api
make dependency loading easy so ppl aren't downloading the same library 20 times
potent fossil
:o
good point
slightly related but mostly not, i was going to add a maven dep loader by Byteflux into one of my new projects so as to reduce jar size
but, doesn't that break spigot TOS about plugin not requiring internet connection
zealous wedge
i think plugins can use an internet connection to download deps, but can't require an internet connection on first download
potent fossil
wdym? it would, to get its deps otherwise nothing could be enabled
well, i mean
i guess... if you just make it load
zealous wedge
oh wait, mistyped, can't require an internet connection on every launch
but can for 1st run
zealous wedge
since GD and LP both do dependency downloads
tame pendant
the announcement isn't acutal paper or anything, right? Just the api for developers? What does the api do? Like how does one use the api jar?
pulsar wigeon
if you have to ask, you don't
sharp sentinel
nah, above max short length
potent fossil
:(
sharp sentinel
42069 should be tho
gloomy finch
Does paper ever push updates upstream to spigot? Wouldnt that make merging easier and allow spigot to also benefit from paper exclusives like async chunk loading?
zealous wedge
nope, spigot wouldn't take most changes
potent fossil
they tried
mighty storm
oh people be vibin here
gloomy finch
Do you mean theres no way to submit a PR for spigot? Or that the PRs dont get merged?
potent fossil
they don't get merged
magic river
You can make PRs, some get merged but not the more complicated ones Paper was doing
You can PR simple bug fixes
gloomy finch
Does anyone know why? Just seems like a bit of a waste
potent fossil
in short, spigot doesnt want the radical changes paper has
don't know, but i dont mind
spigot is spigot, paper is paper
magic river
No idea, Aikar used to be a Spigot dev and all this stuff was happening in Spigot
At some point md_5 didn't want some of the changes, fork happened
latent magnet
yes
potent fossil
but also md5 and md-5
latent magnet
wtf
potent fossil
hash
latent magnet
Yes
mighty storm
bad hash at that very insecure
latent magnet
^
potent fossil
it used to be vewy strowng
i used to hash passwords with that shit
and it was good
but today, yes, bad
latent magnet
isnt there password leaks in md5
potent fossil
there are now
mighty storm
rainbow tables
mighty storm
afaik there's no salt
potent fossil
idk i use bcrypt now
mighty storm
ye
kind plaza
I'm so excited for paper 1.16!
mighty storm
1.16.1!
potent fossil
yay!
latent magnet
you can crack old ios restrictions passwords which are md5 (I think)
potent fossil
yay!
kind plaza
progress is 1%
@celest coyote wait how do u know?
latent magnet
they have salt
mighty storm
we watchin the stream
potent fossil
celest coyote
we just helped aikar apply the first patch
potent fossil
well actually how many patches are there
mighty storm
kind plaza
what stream?
latent magnet
celest coyote
check pins
mighty storm
no, it's chalkboard
latent magnet
thought it was one of those annoying android custom fonts
kind plaza
wait where do u see how done it is
latent magnet
lol
potent fossil
you don't
latent magnet
wait where do u see how done it is
@kind plaza watch him write lines
potent fossil
lmaooo
latent magnet
less red = more done
potent fossil
i just make a quick app for aikar to push a button to increment patches done / total and a progress bar
kind plaza
lmaoo
mighty storm
did he say we're on patch 3/550?
potent fossil
kind plaza
Yes olivia >.<
mighty storm
0.3636363636% done then
latent magnet
i just make a quick app for aikar to push a button to increment patches done / total and a progress bar
@potent fossil you could use streamlabs
or whatever
mighty storm
too mcuh work
latent magnet
I dont even know how to use that
potent fossil
idk i probably wont, im really lazy
mighty storm
oh 003 is fixed, so we're on 4
kind plaza
ik
latent magnet
hes on server patches right now right?
kind plaza
Ik generally how to read a compiler im in an intro to programming class
latent magnet
I saw diff
kind plaza
o
tardy sonnet
latent magnet
accurate
mighty storm
no, it said failed to apply patch 4
tardy sonnet
mighty storm
i believe this is 4
latent magnet
watch this ready
celest coyote
we just started 4 yes
mighty storm
so we are 0.55% done
magic river
Eh, these first couple are probably the most likely to break
celest coyote
patch 4 is the biggest patch
magic river
Some of the big ones later will also need work but a lot will automatically apply
limber knotBOT
oh damn that really pings me here too doesnt it
magic river
Some take 0 time or just running a single command
latent magnet
github redesign on pc >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> github redesign on mobile
mighty storm
guys i was joking it's not actually 1 hour per patch
latent magnet
guys i was joking it's not actually 1 hour per patch
@mighty storm jokes are forbidden
magic river
wiggle wiggle wiggle wiggle
mighty storm
wait does that mean im forbidden 😢
latent magnet
Yes.
Listening to Punjabi MC Mundian To Back Ke On repeat 🙂
indian music
wow twitch ui is very nice
on pc
sick tendon
how we doin boys
mighty storm
we doin
sick tendon
cool cool
mighty storm
why are you doing all this? Just type /fix patches into chat
mighty storm
me n the bois ints i j k l i1 j1 k1
mighty storm
i mean i know why it says that but still
potent fossil
yeah true, looks like shit
latent magnet
this
latent magnet
what
mighty storm
join waiting room
latent magnet
I dont have a mic or speakers
void void
ok
half wing
Nice hoi4
latent magnet
what is the ide hes using
short yarrow
holy shit aikar still live
kind plaza
My frames on 1.16 are so low 💀
kind plaza
btw what patch ais he on
magic river
4th one
latent magnet
I should probably learn to code
dont know what to do though
literally havent been doing anything for months
short yarrow
that's me
wanting to get better at coding
started a project. spent a couple days on it
haven't done anything since
latent magnet
I think my problem is I have nothing I have to work on
and I dont know what to start
short yarrow
been doing nothing for a good month and a half
latent magnet
thisisme
maybe I should make a crappy game in c or something
oops
looks like I fucked up my arch mirrors
potent fossil
mine are fucked up too
warped spear
so how much worse is 1.16.1 turning out to be?
potent fossil
i ran reflector but didnt help too much
warped spear
is it heavily fucked up or mostly ok
limber knotBOT
Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.
warped spear
I wasn't requesting an ETA lol I was just wondering how bad this version is to Dev
potent fossil
yeah so come watch the stream
potent fossil
k gl with that
warped spear
gn 😄
tranquil bone
On a single server? My ass
neat smelt
he is joking xd
tranquil lynx
how can i get paper 1.16
dusk drift
wait
warped spear
that doable with a 9900k
granite salmon
holy people have been in vc for all day and night
ancient bolt
Actually committed my changes this time so hopefully I don't lost that work again..
gleaming temple
it means don't ask about it
raven breach
Developers, Paper API 1.16.1-R0.1-SNAPSHOT has been deployed if you don't use NMS and want to update plugins.
This one
gleaming temple
it's an API
if you don't know what it is
then it doesn't apply to you
it's for developers
celest coyote
4
raven breach
Ty
gleaming temple
it'll speed up later
first few are the biggest patches to resolve, once they are done the process will get much faster
golden gust
that just means that he's gotta run back and forth to update something
It's not gonna happen, lol
celest coyote
too complicated to do that automatically
golden gust
That also doesn't really say that the patch is fully done, we're gonna have to go back once we go through all the patches, etc
celest coyote
and you can't do it manually when it auto patches 100 patches
golden gust
Lots of back and forth at the end
celest coyote
well you could but it would be too annoying
raven breach
How long has it taken for Paper releases before?
golden gust
few hours, few days
raven breach
I would like to know what to expect
celest coyote
.eta
limber knotBOT
Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.
gleaming temple
don't expect anything
golden gust
You should wait a few days anyways
gleaming temple
it'll be out when it's done
olive marlin
^^
1.14 took 2 weeks. 1.15 took 3 days. It varies wildly depending on what's all changed
golden gust
Don't use the first few builds of spigot or paper, they're literally garaunteed to have issues
potent fossil
cat did u see my dm :(
celest coyote
shouldn't be as bad as 1.14
golden gust
ye
raven breach
I have a friend whos a server host, was told that it would be for Monday
golden gust
perv
potent fossil
wtf flirt back
raven breach
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
fallen oracle
Spigot has already had 5 builds
potent fossil
golden gust
your host is pulling crap out of his ass
raven breach
topaz mortar
1.14 took 2 weeks. 1.15 took 3 days. It varies wildly depending on what's all changed
@olive marlin The time slotting was a lot better in 1.15
gleaming temple
yep
golden gust
Well, friend
olive patio
raven breach
1.15 was fast since wasn't it just B E E S
golden gust
I would hope that we are by then, but, we'd just be pissing in the wind tryna give any form of guess
celest coyote
huh
olive marlin
That's why I like pasting that 1.14 took 2 weeks, 1.15 took 3 days. Shows people that it really varies.
celest coyote
spigot fixed a crash with enderpearls and end portals
raven breach
Huh
celest coyote
looks like a bad patch port? https://hub.spigotmc.org/stash/projects/SPIGOT/repos/craftbukkit/commits/ab3875418c849cfa2ca532c8c0d35e2d092d699c
topaz mortar
MojangMappings on the root issue(spigot) would improve it. But licensing. 😦
olive marlin
I suspect we'll have FIRST paper builds around beggining of next week. But it'll be buggy for sure, so...
raven breach
But it will still work? XD
quasi valley
#mds-legacy-rgb-chatcolor-changes-won't-break-other-plugins https://i.imgur.com/ud8Ciwl.png
zealous wedge
heh
latent valve
kenny bad
zealous wedge
420
kind plaza
420?
gleaming temple
√-42
celest coyote
too many spammers
knotty elk
Hi
stiff yarrow
wtf there's a pokemon moba now
fallen oracle
Link?
stiff yarrow
fallen oracle
Mobile devices. Wahoo!
quasi valley
Yet another small mobile title was definitely what I wanted
potent fossil
client sends CAP LS 302, so I reply with CAP * LS : (no capabilities)
it's supposed to send CAP END...but it's not
umbral tiger
@viral hornet I cant join 😦
viral hornet
Jump into #waiting-room
umbral tiger
🎉
twin lagoon
hi t-lo
wooden juniper
magic river
umbral tiger
jk 
potent fossil
it even sleeps longer the more ppl are on over the limit 
latent magnet
holy shit aikar has been coding for 6 hours
potent fossil
rookie numbers
latent magnet
its 3am
fallen oracle
He's dedicated to getting Paper ready.
latent magnet
how many patches has he gotten through
vernal moth
the first patches are chonky
latent magnet
what one is he on tho
potent fossil
you know what else is chonky
celest coyote
we are on patch 9
potent fossil
me :(
twin lagoon
@vernal moth it's outdated
celest coyote
we got through 2 chonkers
twin lagoon
so dw you have newer versions
vernal moth
ah
heady spear
craftimize is the biggest cancer I've seen in this community
latent magnet
how many until the patches are small?
heady spear
and the guy is just fucking annoying lmao
vernal moth
Songoda: exists
heady spear
Songoda is at least somewhat tolerable
vernal moth
@latent magnet just dont pls
heady spear
I've had some decent conversations with her
celest coyote
.eta
limber knotBOT
Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.
twin lagoon
vernal moth
if you want to learn about the progress, just watch
celest coyote
you can check yourself on the repo
vernal moth
the patches are in the repo
twin lagoon
it's only by a few weeks
celest coyote
byeeee
heady spear
I need to update hyperverse D:
latent magnet
2290 lines jfc
heady spear
apparently plotsquared works without any modifications so im happy
latent magnet
oh patch 9 is like the last huge patch
golden gust
async is still much further down the chain
raven breach
.eta
limber knotBOT
Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.
raven breach
Where dem goblins tho
celest coyote
that one shouldn't have many issues, the chunk loading system didn't have major changes but we'll see
twin lagoon
n
it's from march
outdated
do not use it in production but feel free to check it out
latent magnet
yes
raven breach
How big is a patch
latent magnet
from 50 to 4000 lines
vernal moth
from 1 to 10000 lines
golden gust
depends on what it's doing
latent magnet
and there is 540
raven breach
Damn
latent magnet
from 1 to 10000 lines
@vernal moth oh..
raven breach
Hard work lmao
latent magnet
I meant on average 😐
raven breach
What patch are you on now
latent magnet
9/548
raven breach
latent magnet
actually less than 548 I forgot how many were in the folder
raven breach
latent magnet
it seems like most of these are ~50 lines though
latent magnet
first few are big
latent magnet
for some reason it is displaying the diffs for me
I guess the redesign does that automatically(?)
what is craftimize btw
I have never seen this before
potent fossil
server host
latent magnet
what do they do
potent fossil
they hard coded a player limit into the server that calls Thread.sleep
if you have too many ppl on
lmao
latent magnet
wow
oh I just read the code
I was just assuming it was like stolen code or something
variable names are confusing
stray oyster
potent fossil
been there
fallen oracle
LOL
void void
@@stray oyster loves dude i appreciate your work, and are noticed
viral hornet
I'm pretty sure there's been a constant ~80-100 people watching throughout the whole stream
He should definitely put a donation link there
heady spear
is that ysl talking?
fallen oracle
Donate to Paper and Z will pay him Taco money.
twin lagoon
hi glare
heady spear
or just use the donation links over at acf
olive marlin
Or donate directly to Aikar ¯_(ツ)_/¯
viral hornet
Good evening
olive marlin
Morning.
fallen oracle
If you wanna show some love for the past 7 hours he's been going, you can do it directly there.
viral hornet
dumb currencies
twin lagoon
@vernal moth minimessage doesn't work on spigot 1.16.1 yet does it
wanted to play with 1.16 messages a go
vernal moth
my branch does
twin lagoon
does it include the parser plugin?
vernal moth
yes