almost all OS's have ZIP capabilities with AES encryption support
#general
golden gust
R/W support of zip files is sketchy, however
upper flicker
if we're doing per-file I'll just use gpg
golden gust
I know macOS doesn't have it built in unless you're dealing with the cli, etc
upper flicker
but per-file is not sufficient for a lot of stuff
valid mango
Well yeah with the terminal
golden gust
Personally, I abuse the shit outta disk images, mainly coz am hoping I'll stick to macOS, god forbid the day I ever need to transfer that stuff between machines
valid mango
Most people concerned with this level of stuff are comfortable opening a terminal window
worn ember
once you go apple you dont go back lol
worn ember
they dont need to milk their users any more than they already have π
void void
ooh now we got fight
golden gust
Yea
upper flicker
if there was some standard cross-platform system for encryption it would be nice though
golden gust
that's the beauty of it all
twin lagoon
the best cross platform filesystem next to exfat is ntfs tbh
void void
NO
twin lagoon
it's not native though
golden gust
ntfs is shit
void void
ntfs sucks
twin lagoon
you'd need ntfs-3g
upper flicker
have a lot of people that need it at work but would literally die if they saw a terminal
valid mango
Idk the standard is AES
void void
at a software and hardware level
twin lagoon
but it works miles ahead of exfat
golden gust
- The drivers are literally still considered unstable
static badge
ntfs is amazing
worn ember
i like trains
valid mango
just because there isn't a pretty GUI on it doesn't mean there aren't cross platform tools
void void
it corrupts really easily
golden gust
- It's buggy as fuck and r/w is sketchy as all shit
upper flicker
its easier to just put an ext4 driver on windows and deal with that
twin lagoon
never had any issues with ntfs-3g
golden gust
- ^ defo issues with corruption vs more native filesystems
twin lagoon
yet my ssd slowly corrupted with exfat
golden gust
issue with exfat is that it doesn't deal with error recovery too well
upper flicker
sadly the macos fuse ext4 driver is in worse shape than ntfs-3g so lol
filesystems are fun
worn ember
TAPE
golden gust
I think my next storage step is gonna be to find a cheap box and just start throwing disks in it
void void
i used to have my large files drive as ntfs, thats slowly started corrupting, thing is it was just the ntfs corrupting, drive was fine
golden gust
That way I can just network the thing and not give a shit about the underlying FS
worn ember
a delivery box?
golden gust
a pc u dumfuq
void void
wrap them in bubble wrap
upper flicker
I just picked up a gently used synology box on ebay for like $200
worn ember
i mean, that would be pretty cheap
golden gust
2nd hand server market over here is pretty shit, tbqh
celest coyote
lol
upper flicker
fill it with drives, lol there you go
worn ember
yeah just get a pc case lol
void void
i think i can get like a cheap server for like $30 or free
worn ember
enterprise shit is overpriced as fuck
upper flicker
make sure you swap the fans
golden gust
Nah
upper flicker
unless you want to listen to a jet 24/7
golden gust
I like my house sounding like a jet engine is going into full throttle
worn ember
water cool the drives for extra R/W
void void
i'd probably end up putting it in neighbours house, thats their problem then
upper flicker
or if you have like an unfinished basement
valid mango
Backblaze/AWS
upper flicker
ezpz throw a rack down there, who cares if it makes noise
valid mango
Backblaze is cheappppp
valid mango
Use backblaze for personal cloud storage, and buy a prebuilt NAS for a home backup
:done:
void void
or do it janky and save money
upper flicker
prebuilt nas for storage, backblaze to back up the whole nas too
worn ember
i wouldnt want to heat up my basement with a server tbh
void void
you live in your basement?
upper flicker
I think the personal plans on backblaze dont support that sort of thing though technically
valid mango
Na I would use backblaze as the primary, and backup to the nas periodically
worn ember
nur
void void
aww
upper flicker
nop, I want that data local
worn ember
but we use it to keep stuff cool
void void
ah, fair enough
upper flicker
far more likely my house burns down than backblaze
worn ember
well ig its not mandatory, but its a side effect
upper flicker
wouldnt count on it as an actual backup
valid mango
Yeah I suppose backbalze itself and their user GUI is meh, but if you wrote a little bit of code on their S3 clone it would be fine
sour basin
MC client is so weird.
Why can you jump 0.46 from the edge of a block
void void
because 0.5 was taken
sour basin
vanilla literally let's you fly
valid mango
Right that's why backblaze is the primary. The home NAS is just for in the very unlikely scenario backblaze loses data
void void
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
upper flicker
If I have to go remote for all data access, there is no reason for me to have a local nas
I could just backup backblaze to any other service
valid mango
It is just the cost effective option to gain that last little bit of backup ease of mind
void void
i should backup everything on the i2p storage node!
valid mango
I would not want to pay for two cloud storages. Though I suppose backblaze for real time and something like aws Glacier would work
But like RIP if you ever have to actually get your data from Glacier
minor badge
@waxen panther stanky
void void
exactly, so no point therefore
upper flicker
anyway, other benefit of having it local is that I can use it as a dlna streaming box
none of my tvs support connecting to backblaze for media
valid mango
yeah I would probably put files I am ok with losing only on the local NAS for a plex server or something
worn ember
just put in a RAID configuration
upper flicker
different people have different needs/wants though I dont fault anyone who does use a remote cloud platform for storage
part of it for me was to just bring a lot of it local though
worn ember
my internet is shit so having stuff locally makes more sense
valid mango
Yeah for TV's and media like that it might be possible to use backblaze as a storage to Plex or something
and then yeah, when you're mobile you could fetch from the cloud, and local hit your NAS like it is a cache
too bad none of this is easy to setup π¦
golden gust
cloud storage is nice, I kinda love what keybase have done, as their thing basically just acts like a filesystem to everything
Only downfall is is that it's defo not gonna be supported by mainstream stuff
upper flicker
and they were just bought by zoom
golden gust
woooo
golden gust
GUD JOB U DID IT
upper flicker
valid mango
eh the sentiment is still there so π€·ββοΈ
golden gust
fuckin' home improvement though lol
waxen panther
@minor badge I am the least stanky person you know π
minor badge
@waxen panther stanky nonetheless!
waxen panther
tame pendant
im astonished by the number of people who are upset that paper fixes bugs
worn ember
awe?
spice finch
How something works as it should? Its not mojang style!
spice finch
What's role of spigot in all this engine ecosystem?
They just has better API than bukkit?
celest coyote
spigot maintains the most popular fork of bukkit/craftbukkit
which paper is based off of
void void
and bukkit/cb itself now
celest coyote
original bukkit died a couple years ago
spice finch
lol
What about Sponge, why are they so non-well-known? π€
I know its not the best place to ask but yeah 
makes sense 
celest coyote
sponge is just not as popular and its kinda slow to update
void void
sponge is still on 1.12.2
tired heath
Am I too stupid to understand a basic switch, I just forgot the break in my switch, resulting in the java switch performed each case as if it would be true, even if not. Like ten cases, 9th would be true, without break: execution of case 1 to 10. Is this normal
cunning raft
1.13 really fucked over all the non-nms server software
void void
sponge sits on nms as well
cunning raft
no?
spice finch
it does
void void
switch cases are weird
cunning raft
does it honestly
spice finch
sponge is nms based lol
cunning raft
ohhhhh
cunning raft
got it mixed with glowstone
spice finch
didnt know about it
worn ember
sponge is nice, shame its indeed slow to update
spice finch
welp its not supported anymore?
void void
sponge is what we should've started using after the fall of original cb
spice finch
glowstone i mean
celest coyote
they have paper api
tired heath
I mean it works with break as it should, but that way it performed without is really weird β¦
celest coyote
wait no
spice finch
Larger learning curve = using optionals? :pepelaugh:
celest coyote
thats glowstone
void void
port paper to mixins 
switches are weird, its a shame i can't have them as clean if elses
use kotlin if you want better switches on older jvm
or update to java 14
tired heath
it is 14
spice finch
i like checking if X is instanceof Y in switch in kotlin
cunning raft
kotlin 
void void
well i'm on java 8 cos 1.12.2 forge, don't newer versions fuck something up?
void void
1.12.2 forge will never run on java 9+
well then rip me, have to put in a bunch of else ifs then if i don't want to deal with retarded variables
out of box at least
quasi valley
1.12
void void
internals, no
worn ember
yikes
void void
forge 1.12.2 uses LegacyLancher, which relies on one very simple implementation detail
that system classloader extends URLClassLoader
it stopped doing that in java 9
void void
that's pretty easy to work around however
by using reflection
or by replacing system classloader, lol
so thats why the launcher always complains if it isn't run on java 8
worn ember
ig so
void void
ClassLoader#scl is the field
replace it and go hog wild
OldSchool RuneScape is doing that iirc
with its stock launcher
worn ember
its 10pm and the neighbors are still screaming
i can legally call the cops on them now π
worn ember
maybe they'll shoot one in the process
void void
which one do you hate more
worn ember
i dont hate them
worn ember
its just that i'm trying to fucking study and since 4pm they've been having some backyard party
void void
ah ok
worn ember
and their kids are screaming and shit and its really annoying
worn ember
my years already fucked anyway
void void
just be naturally good
worn ember
im trying to salvage what i can ok
void void
i can't tell if the police are going nutty now or its just hype
pulsar wigeon
what do you mean barty
worn ember
the special forces raided a house here and people are going nuts by how hard they treated them 
like bruh they're literally planning a terrorist attack
void void
well that cop should be arrested ezpz
pulsar wigeon
just don't resist and the police won't harm you
worn ember
well thats just murica things if you ask me
void void
oh murica, what did you do now
from where
how could you abandon us!
it'd be better if you switched back to being a cat
worn ember
yuck furries
worn ember
furry cat
void void
go back to having the kitten
so that i can be confused between you and vic
no
i have an idea
void void
pulsar wigeon
that works too
void void
thats true, i'll end up with walls of blocked messages
alright compact mode cancer it is
yeah sad that block/ignore won't work like in irc
so we're left with bullying viper not to be furry
waxen panther
i need a block image button
void void
smh discord should make our lives easier
i dc about those
discords the only one i see anyway lmao
wooh!
victory!
spice finch
you saved many people nirvana
void void
now bow down to me haha
void void
this compact mode is strange
like sure i can see more, but it feels like i'm reading a book
and reading books makes me sleepy
hmm whenever its late i should turn on compact mode so that i go to sleep quicker then
unreal quarry
@spare venture you read the whole thing? cops did a field sobriety test on him, he failed it. they started to place him under arrest, but he resisted. there was a struggle and he got one of the cops' taser. then he started to run away and turned back and pointed the taser at the cops
waxen panther
I'm going to pretend you didn't say owo and just think of your avatar as a kde mascot
waxen panther
Culling time
pulsar wigeon
o boi are we doing this shit again
i mean you're a furry
you basically asked for it
tired heath
What would be a nice mc sound to play in the arena, when a player equips quad_damage, invisibility, battle suit or regeneration 
waxen panther
worn ember
Boo furry
tired heath
door sound, really
waxen panther
tired heath
not so epic
simple helm
just got an mc server up and running on a phone, gonna try papermc nezt
waxen panther
simple helm
I hate that this is what I'm staying up to 5am for
worn ember
I hate you too for it
tired heath
It should be more like a warning for others that but.. destruction might follow soon
void void
try playing on it lmao
quasi valley
Ah viper youβre not a furry anymore!
void void
eww furry on spigot
quasi valley
good enough
void void
he said uwu kde mascott
simple helm
oh, no
waxen panther
oh no, a furry
simple helm
I just installed aarch64 version of jre
waxen panther
simple helm
and ran it in tmux
had to mess with some config to get it to work in android without crashing, but once it's up everything's buttery smooth
gonna actually convert my older phones to mc servers now
void void
oh no
void void
no
waxen panther
I've found all free code places to be super shit
void void
its most boring thing i've tried
waxen panther
Find a cheap book or just try to recreate projects in the language
googling as you need
void void
also thats not how you should learn to code as far as i'm concerned
yeah make projects
best way how
golden gust
For java?
void void
a tutorial might teach syntax, thats effectively useluss
waxen panther
waxen panther
obj-c gang 
void void
for C, just go on geeks for geeks or smthin and piece together what ur meanting to be doing from there
long story short i learn programming stuff in a frustrating way
golden gust
The problem with programming is that there is no real way to get around the whole "doing" aspect to actually lock in the knowledge
not to mention the boredom induced by most material defeats the entire gains, better off just tryna dig in, read up on stuff in your free time, etc
never worked in C, but pointers are one of those complex things which are really easy to understand once you get it
void void
C preprocessor is amazing
yeah, tldr learn by practise, everything else will not teach you enough
except __DATE__ macro, fuck that
makes build non-deterministic instantly
golden gust
woooo
waxen panther
frfrfr
golden gust
pretty sure that's basically the whole IFDEF type BS
waxen panther
I've heard non-furries learn 60% faster
shell vine
void void
i see no reason to doubt that
it feels better when you finish your first shitty buggy program π
you know what feels even better?
golden gust
gittin' gud
void void
besides that
when your LD_PRELOAD library actually patches the shit you wanted to fix
speak english
golden gust
fuck off with your myths
void void
patched dlopen/dlsym once
and faked opengl info
for CS:GO
got it running on stone age gpu for lulz
golden gust
kek
void void
of course most of the shit did not render
but it fucking ran
no?
injecting shit with LD_PRELOAD won't usually cause any issues under linux and valve games
SimpleScreenRecorder's direct opengl capture works in a similar way
redirects X11 render calls
never got VAC-ed because of it
and would be fucking dumb as well if i did
golden gust
inb4
surreal adder
hey so uh how do u make map art
is there a plugin to do it?
i have a paper creative server
blazing nebula
isn't there a spigot method to draw images on maps?
golden gust
Yea, theres API for modifying maps and stuff
minor badge
just write your own like i did π
surreal adder
how do u do it?
surreal adder
idk what to do with that
blazing nebula
wait are you a dev or server owner
surreal adder
i just made a server
blazing nebula
as in you dev'd it or used public plugins
void void
are you able to write code?
surreal adder
no
blazing nebula
Oh
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) I updated my tool to help you create map art in Survival : Minecraft - 36 comments, 23 points - redstonehelper, 13d ago
void void
.g spigot pixel printer
limber knotBOT
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surreal adder
oo that's what i was looking 4
minor badge
lmao good description right there with an error
void void
quality plugin!
minor badge
.g imageonmap spigotmc
limber knotBOT
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minor badge
this one's decent afaik
surreal adder
tysm
golden gust
for getting the foundational knowledge, it can help
But, once again, the meat is in experience
void void
i just google hello world or examples for a language and go on from there
golden gust
don't think I've ever bought a programming book :L
pulsar wigeon
i have inherited a few
golden gust
I think I do wanna read more, but, tbqh, wanna get a tablet or something for that
pulsar wigeon
they are archaic. one was for perl even
limber knotBOT
if you want job security, good money and hate yourself then it's the language for you
golden gust
it's funny cos it's true
void void
@surreal adder if you want to make a map art, then you should check out my friend's website https://rebane2001.com/mapartcraft/
surreal adder
i already got it sorry
void void
sure
limber knotBOT
!pinned
waxen panther
sus
limber knotBOT
oof that could use some pagination or some warning of how many there are lol
!pinned
oh god there's so many
could also include some info about when it was pinned or is that not a feature on discord?
it is, theyre just messages
pulsar wigeon
not
pulsar wigeon
right
limber knotBOT
yeah thats not a thing
well, I guess when it was written might also be nice
as there is no way to know how relevant it might still be otherwise as you can't just go to the message like in discord
youre just never happy are you :(
:P
pulsar wigeon
he's german, of course not
limber knotBOT
is #general pins just "best of paper memes"? lol
pretty much, it is basically just offtopic
pulsar wigeon
there is/was a pin just stating "general pins are for memes"
limber knotBOT
"<Cβitβywβeeβbsβtrβetβ> Also I would love to direct a hacking themed porno" ( Ν‘Β° ΝΚ Ν‘Β°)
void void
upper flicker
tbh there's memes mixed in with all of them
just because you cant pin a message to other channels than the one it was sent
void void
good kash
heady spear
I am over represented in the pins, dunno whether that's good or bad
wide chasm
It's bad
spice finch
Could someone explain me why Kenny is upside down?
void void
his brain needs extra blood
spice finch
I should fix his pfp I think
heady spear
I mean tbf those are the same thing
wide chasm
Kenny's ancient spells backfired making him permanently upside down.
void void
germanist!
heady spear
y were the spells ancient
wide chasm
Because they didn't work
limber knotBOT
a Germanist is someone who studied the German language though 
heady spear
and a germanophone is someone that speaks german
void void
alright then
heady spear
a germanophobe on the other hand is someone with a strong dislike of germany
ie someone who has germanophobia
void void
germanphobe!
finite wave
wide chasm
Wow
heady spear
which is basically the entire world following WW2
wide chasm
He's psychic
finite wave
heya
void void
lmao with germany i remembered some discord chat where people triggered when one said "Germany"
that "Germany" is gendered word
finite wave
I was banned cause i did baddies π
void void
and "please use Germ*ny instead it's not hard to follow rules"
limber knotBOT
just call it by its real name then, Deutschland :P
heady spear
should have remained that way smh
void void
or "Germxny"
finite wave
Well, glad to back to you too city
void void
i swear i have that picture around somewhere
fallen oracle
I was kinda confused on the conversation earlier but I just got caught on what happened and saw the video.
limber knotBOT
or the legal, German way of gendering it: Gerwo*many
heady spear
soooo all in all, u were looking for the word "Germanophobic", not "Germanist". Glad to clear that up
finite wave
Special thanks to Z for unbanning me β€οΈ
pulsar wigeon
you mean "Germxnin"?
heady spear
what video .-.
pulsar wigeon
cuz Z is soft
heady spear
no he's not
heady spear
tbf
pulsar wigeon
can we not post that again
finite wave
What, when did i get that?
raw canyon
upper flicker
he's not some shielded individual, he's just reached the point in time that his ban expired
if it happens again he'll be gone just like anyone else who did it
finite wave
Also, i'm fairly certain i didn't send images to random people and asked if someone wanted some shit
wide chasm
Well, you certainly delivered
finite wave
No worries, i'll not do baddies for atleast a year.
void void
finite wave
I'm a really random individual so that's the only thing i can promise for now.
heady spear
well don't forget that barty sent me really mean messages
this is only one out of many screenshots
pulsar wigeon
.remind -w 1yr ban jan again
finite wave
Lol,
void void
i believe you city
finite wave
Why u gotta be so rude to this swede
void void
barty is a nasty bully
heady spear
I'm a victim
wide chasm
All those DMs are better than "please help me with Timings"
finite wave
Hey, i think i know how timings work just fine.
pulsar wigeon
imagine having dms open
finite wave
I'm glad all of you plebs are still here
wide chasm
I always consider closing them, but you sometimes also get DMs that are so stupid that they're funny, so I keep them open for that.
finite wave
Oh my, are you saying you actually wanted to see that girl in a diaper?
fallen oracle
https://youtu.be/B_qWUVi52yY interesting new concept for animations
heady spear
But are you saying that you don't want to see that girl in a diaper?
elfin kraken
limber knotBOT
.halp
.addcmd halp https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/555469074080202765/561287494075678721/image0.png
upper flicker
.halp
limber knotBOT
finite wave
Oh β€οΈ Totally forgot that
limber knotBOT
π
finite wave
I got it pinned on programmers hangout
golden gust
blame pheonix
finite wave
somewhere
wide chasm
It's pinned here as well
limber knotBOT
blame? you guys should THANK me! :P
finite wave
Wait nvm i got it pinged here
upper flicker
should just come with any guild that does any support
finite wave
but stole it from programmers hangout*
limber knotBOT
I mean it's not in the help channel so the damage it could do is pretty limited, lol
golden gust
.mini
finite wave
I'm half drunk alone atm cause i bought nice tasing alcohol
heady spear
no u continue abusing them until they get super angry and start cursing at u so you have a reason to ban them
we use that strategy in IS and it works great
asking for details is silly, just go straight for the mental abuse
void void
ban viper
finite wave
Is this a joke?+
void void
no
pulsar wigeon
viper everyone knows italians are catholic not christian
heady spear
y was viper unbanned
finite wave
heady spear
more important than questioning why jan was unbanned
upper flicker
why wasnt city banned yet
void void
yeah jan was unbanned, viper should be banned instead
upper flicker
these mods I swear
golden gust
all in favour say aye
finite wave
Hey, i went and appealed for an unban perfectly fine.
pulsar wigeon
aye
void void
let's actually make them swap the places
spice finch
I was never banned.. yet
pulsar wigeon
idk who we're banning but i'm for it
void void
viper
heady spear
yay
fallen oracle
Holy shit. I thought they were over exaggerating it, this thing got yeeted. https://www.reddit.com/r/CatastrophicFailure/comments/h86hj2/gasoline_tank_truck_went_airborne_after_explosion/
limber knotBOT
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finite wave
That danes are bad?
heady spear
and im a realiable figure that people see as a general authority and source of absolute truth
plus Z called me intelligent so
upper flicker
IS
golden gust
I mean
upper flicker
although he doesnt really work on anything there though
heady spear
wat
upper flicker
no
pulsar wigeon
i mean WE has 20 million DLs
heady spear
ok plotsquared is no longer a thing i guess
waxen panther
Can't be having a whitename
pulsar wigeon
no one has even heard of plotsquared
upper flicker
we dont have a deplorable tag to give you for plotsquared
celest coyote
servers don't count
golden gust
sorta like pixelmon
upper flicker
inb4 someone screenshots and goes "look paper hates plotsquared omg wtf"
pulsar wigeon
yea true
golden gust
Only reason I know about it is consistent world corruption and 80GB log files
heady spear
yes we r going to be very upset in #secret
pulsar wigeon
first time i heard of plotsquared was when it was causing WE to load incorrectly and break entirely
celest coyote
running a minecraft server on my laptop makes discord choke so hard
finite wave
Hah, amazing
pulsar wigeon
city was responsible for that
golden gust
I mean, it's basically chrome based
finite wave
First time i heard of it was when it was mentioned in here
golden gust
chrome loves choking on ram
pulsar wigeon
well it was prevalent enough to get multiple reports in our discord
heady spear
right because plotsquared users are generally really stupid
upper flicker
breaking worldedit is a rite of passage
heady spear
we filtered out a big portion of the dumb when going premium π
finite wave
You got not lite version?
heady spear
It's freemium
celest coyote
hopefully the laptop I have been eying for the last few months gets released next week
pulsar wigeon
open source premium support model
heady spear
open source but premium support lol
pulsar wigeon
honestly it's a good model
heady spear
bruh stop being quicker than me
celest coyote
paper should do that
heady spear
I wonder if it'd work for something like WE. People just seem to not want to donate to EH
celest coyote
$1 per issue report
heady spear
WG would probably do better
finite wave
WG is so annoying on forge mohist
heady spear
but like people throw money at FAWE as soon as it stops working
pulsar wigeon
have been meaning to move it to piston for months now but i just don't give enough of a shit
heady spear
but they'd never donate to WE because it works
heady spear
stop making reliable plugins
finite wave
People donate to plugins? Woah
fallen oracle
What you do is go freemium and leave a simple mistake in it so people who are lazy will just buy it and ask for help
heady spear
They used to
wide chasm
They'd rather pay for AWE than donate to WE :)
pulsar wigeon
this has been discussed before
heady spear
in 2015-2016 donations were super common
pulsar wigeon
people don't donate to WE cuz it's been around forever and just works
heady spear
has the awe dude ever donated to WE?
pulsar wigeon
nah
golden gust
slap it in and forget
heady spear
lel
finite wave
Sue him for taking your name
upper flicker
literally forget
pulsar wigeon
honestly naming issues are a big problem
heady spear
Arc contributed to FAWE when he reached a patreon goal because it's just a FAWE addon, kinda feel like the AWE dude should do the same
pulsar wigeon
arc should just target WE api honestly
finite wave
Hah, if paper broke it you guys would be pestered by way too many people
pulsar wigeon
he says his shit will only work on fawe but i looked at some of his code and that's bullshit
golden gust
My fave people are the ones who update 100+ builds and expect us to care to figure out what introduced their issue
upper flicker
100+ builds and 100+ plugins
heady spear
I think he targeted FAWE because Jesse would help him
wide chasm
It was build 297
fallen oracle
What's the most about of plugins you're seen a legit server try to run and expect it to work?
wide chasm
I just don't like 297
fallen oracle
Amount*
golden gust
I once hit into 100
upper flicker
I know a few that run nearly 100 and actually give a damn
totally doable
theyre called spreadsheets, use them
finite wave
I know a few that runs 1.7
golden gust
Tbqh, plugin #'s aint really an issue, outside of the fact that places like spigot are cancerous to automation
heady spear
ok but we have people come to us asking how to move from plotme to plotsquared and that shit went unsupported in 2015 π
wide chasm
Better a lot of small plugins than one huge one imo
finite wave
City be like Luckperms and add a /migrate command for shitty other plugins
upper flicker
its just the casual "I have a hundred plugins and I never update any of them, I just chuck em in and maybe Ill get a new one if something breaks" people that have problems
limber knotBOT
I have 87 plugins on my main server and half of them are mine, lol
upper flicker
and then they have like 5 of the same plugin jar with slightly different names so the updated one isnt even loading
heady spear
We had migration but then we kinda thought people would have grown brains by now so we dropped it when we dropped 1.8-1.12 support
limber knotBOT
( Ν‘Β° ΝΚ Ν‘Β°)
finite wave
City, when dealing with server hosters no one has a brain
fallen oracle
Yeah, you have to make a treasure map of updates for them to follow
heady spear
but no brains had been grown
also all those idiots that report permission issues and use a 900 year old pex build
gleaming finch
the seed was never planted
finite wave
Viper what do you want
heady spear
ok
finite wave
Is this normal City?
heady spear
ye kinda
pulsar wigeon
waxen panther
WOLOLOLOLO
finite wave
my man
upper flicker
everything you need to know is in the meme
finite wave
Don't say that or he thinks jesus suddenly yelled "wololo!"
waxen panther
Wish he did
vernal moth
worn ember
Jan actually unbanned
fallen oracle
I think it's always like that if you have Nitro.
finite wave
Heya Dark
finite wave
Oh it is?
minor badge
@waxen panther hey there stinkystanky
limber knotBOT
jan yuck
finite wave
I think u get 2 boosts with nitro
worn ember
Yea
finite wave
Already used them
worn ember
I have classic cuz I'm broke
finite wave
I've been spying on your dark, all your snapchat stories.
Wanna try something fun dark?
Keep an eye on chat
pulsar wigeon
not like we really need boosts
basically just for people who want the colored name
tired heath
Same story bro
golden gust
literally insta-appeared as claimed here
finite wave
Someone got a bot or smth?
left swift
probably bots yea
tired heath
yes
pulsar wigeon
it's a public discord
finite wave
Oh well
pulsar wigeon
lmao
finite wave
I blame the fancy programmers on this discord
pulsar wigeon
doubt it
finite wave
We should ban all programmers and their alts.
minor badge
might i add that discord dating servers are amazing for those bots? the amount of gifts my (totally hypothetical) snagger yoinked once i (hypothetically) put it on there was pretty epic
left swift
are bots able to scan pictures for codes too?
kindred storm
ban all programmers
pulsar wigeon
probably skiddies just join all the public discords fishing for nitros
"dating servers"
π€’
finite wave
Proxi, what
minor badge
well yes but they're full of idiots who post discord nitro links lol
left swift
discord dating servers are literally just pedo rings
worn ember
Wow
tired heath
just do rot13 or any other stupid ass encryption on the invite link and the bot will fail
finite wave
Ah, you fishing for free nitro?
tired heath
worked for me
minor badge
friend of mine put his own acc into his bot, got some 10 yrs of nitro worth as the API doesn't enforce the 1 yr max at a time limit
finite wave
Well, i didn't think there was bots sigh
worn ember
I bet proxi dates furries likes viper on those servers smh
finite wave
We all know cat is everywhere, but you disappoint me smh.
minor badge
what can i say, i'm a sucker for that fur
finite wave
Nooo, stop
finite wave
Oh, i am banned there too i think
heady spear
I like to drop nitro gifts in random places like Builders Refuge or simple's DMs and watch them simp over me
minor badge
i just dont know of darkeye
neat smelt
xD
waxen panther
cat is in a friend of mines server
finite wave
U know me proxi?
minor badge
ja, jan
finite wave
Great, i'm known
neat smelt
nein jan
minor badge
jan ain't german
heady spear
cat is not in IS π¦
finite wave
I was forced to learn the damn german language for 5 years or so
neat smelt
haha
waxen panther
limber knotBOT
you are lucky then, I've been at it for 27 years :P
worn ember
@minor badge I haven't accomplished anything meaningful for you to know me anyway
minor badge
@finite wave blir du med pΓ₯ Γ₯ gjenopprette kalmarunionen for Γ₯ ta over city og hele svenskeriket hans? 
tired heath
dont call german anoying
heady spear
sluta >:((( ta skΓ₯ne
minor badge
german is annoying
tired heath
!
worn ember
Since when is mini a server cx
minor badge
aldri, city; svensker mΓ₯ utryddes!
finite wave
Proxi, i'm not fancy enough as Margrethe
waxen panther
swedish bad norwegian good 
heady spear
ni Γ€r dumma π¦
tired heath
Da bekomm ich durchfall, wenn ich das lese.
tired heath
π
finite wave
I though this was english only
heady spear
yes
finite wave
Dutch is worse City
void void
polish on top!
tired heath
I am Austrian so I
neat smelt
ofunny schΓΆn dass wir auf einer seite sind
finite wave
Dutch is the fucked up german child.
heady spear
ΡΡΠ΅ΡΡ ΠΌΠΎΡ Π»Π΅Π²ΡΡ Π½ΠΎΠ³Ρ π
finite wave
Sigh
limber knotBOT
dutch is when a drunk german tries to speak english
minor badge
@heady spear you're the dum one >:(
limber knotBOT
or the other way around I guess Β―_(γ)_/Β―
finite wave
City said ->
waxen panther
Norwegian is the only language i didn't give up with immediately 
finite wave
according to my google
minor badge
woa do u speak norwegian brocc
heady spear
I learned all my norwegian by listening to gabrielle
void void
granite salmon
dutch is hilarious
heady spear
Bordet e snudd, livet tok slutt i meg
Du va kun en gutt, no har eg kutt fra deg
best lyrics
waxen panther
finite wave
Yeah proxi, in olddansk that's how we used it
minor badge
that is indeed not grammatically correct norwegian but good job !
that's how you do it today too, jan :p
heady spear
that's her lyrics u cow
finite wave
Yeah, but we use Β¨Γ₯æø if we can else the other
minor badge
indeed
golden gust
most annoying thing with swedish is Γ₯Àâ
golden gust
Think it was those 3...
heady spear
it's supposed to be "the tables are turned" but she just did
golden gust
Ahoj
heady spear
well
minor badge
it is indeed cat
golden gust
Fucking pirates, telling yog
finite wave
Oh my, the almighty cat is here
minor badge
but city u do understand norwegian (at least bokmΓ₯l) in written form, no?
heady spear
bro spoken swedish is 900 times worse because we have like 950 sounds that are spelled the same way but sometimes the spelling is identical but the sound is completely different
tired heath
Post a stupid emoji if you talk german!
Post a stupid emoji if you talk german!
Post a stupid emoji if you talk german!
heady spear
Ye, I live very close to the Norwegian border so I interact with Norwegians quite often
minor badge
this is epic
golden gust
ja jag
topaz mortar
dutch is when a drunk german tries to speak english
@phoenix616#0000 That's probably why MiniDigger is Dyescaping happily. Drunk German on a Dutch mc server.
minor badge
really tho, looking to move to stockholm in the future
heady spear
My dad used to work in Norway because schmoney
heady spear
Stockholm is great π€·ββοΈ
golden gust
Then again, maybe you'd fit in
minor badge
swedes are fine
heady spear
And for Norwegians it's not even that expensive
heady spear
at least not compared to oslo
minor badge
i wanna study there too so it'd get expensive w a parttime job :p
waxen panther
I have norwegian relatives
Hopefully I'll be doing my last 2 years of uni in bergen
minor badge
i live far on the countryside in norway, owned house and all
heady spear
Study where?
minor badge
stockholm, preferably at stockholms universitΓ€tet
heady spear
I was going to study at the royal institute of technology
finite wave
I'll study in either odense or kΓΈbenhavn. Pref KΓΈbenhavn.
heady spear
but I decided that I wanted to leave stockholm
finite wave
Why? Take your education then leave
heady spear
I mean I'm on a 5 year programme and I wanted to spend those 5 years somewhere else lol
finite wave
Sigh, i might become a nurse cause doctor seems to be a long education
minor badge
im planning on applying for Kanditatprogram i datavetenskap as y'all call it, city
heady spear
ye I'm on my kandidat rn
although I'm in a joint masters so I don't even have to do my bachelors thesis
finite wave
I'm so young you guys already started on taht crap lol
heady spear
but both SU and KTH are solid universities. I took a random relativity course at SU
and a friend of mine did a bunch of higher level maths there
minor badge
pride for that programme is 405k SEK for non-EU/EEA/Swiss students, damn
heady spear
ye studying here is expensive if you're an international student
golden gust
time to start streaming
heady spear
and living expenses are yikes too
I mean my education is free but I'll still be $60k in debt from living expenses alone
waxen panther
mine is v cheap
heady spear
and I basically trick kids into giving me money through minecraft as a profession
waxen panther
I've paid my housing and courses for the next 3 years
just have to pay for food now
pulsar wigeon
how much for camera expenses city
finite wave
I don't pay for shit.
heady spear
I haven't bought a lens in like 10 months
pulsar wigeon
that broke huh
heady spear
I really want a new 80mm tho but it's like $1200
yes
I lost student financing over the summer because I failed like all courses this semester lol
pulsar wigeon
i hope PS5 was worth it
gilded steppe
minor badge
well, one thing i appreciate is the fact that the edu is free for me too even tho i'm not swedish
living expenses will be a bitch doe
heady spear
if you're willing to commute then living just 30-45 minutes outside of Stockholm will drop prices a lot
minor badge
i'm happy to wake up hours before class just to walk if i have to tbh
nothing like a good ol' walk in the morning anyways 
finite wave
What a weird man that doesn't wanna sleep till last second
heady spear
there are commuter trains all over the county so it's super easy to get around
yes proxy is a weird man indeed
minor badge
i do not know that luxury where i currently live
compact kelp
heady spear
Right I miss the commuter trains, they were awesome
I miss being able to hop on a train every 15 minutes and going across the county :/ Now we have annoying local transit and the busses just decide to not show up half of the time
though I lived in the middle of nowhere before I moved here and one time the bus didn't show up for 5 days because there was 1m of snow on the roads and no one plowed them
so like, idk, shouldn't complain
minor badge
woa after studies i'll have half as much debt as you π
minor badge
yee same here
heady spear
so I'm fine with the debt tbh
waxen panther
Yucky Americans
minor badge
will defo pay it off asap tho, no need keeping it on my finances for longer than necessary
finite wave
Yeah, i'll prolly "loan" extra money on top of the money i get from being a student to have fun in my time, and then repay it asap after
minor badge
edu is free, 125k Β± 3k NOK/yr, im sure i can manage to somewhat survive on that
void void
just go mad 
finite wave
I get like 2k dkk/m but i can extand to 5k dkk/m with 3k loan each month, if live for myself i'll gain 6k dkk/m
- loan if i wish for it
heady spear
I get ~11300NOK a month from transfer payments + student loans
I think 20% of it is transfer payments that you get by just being a student
void void
now what is that in normal money
heady spear
around $1180
void void
so not great, but can scrape by
finite wave
No clue, we can't really compare it cause we get a lot of benefits
Free healthcare etc.
heady spear
ye it doesn't get you rich by any means
but ye
free healthcare, free dental care, subsidised local transit etc etc
But yikedy yikes living expenses in most of scandinavia
also Swedish food prices are no fun so you'll not be rich as a student here despite uni being free lol
finite wave
Yeah, but it isn't that diffcult to find someone to share a little apartment with
heady spear
ye my friend and I are probably getting a shared apartment next year
her parents offered to cosign
finite wave
It certainly does
void void
i have one but it's private and not fully featured
mainly used for stress testing my shit 
finite wave
You can, but who would use it tbh.
void void
you don't really want to do it in C viper
void void
wanna see mikro code?
finite wave
nty
void void
;)
waxen panther
fucking compjure
void void
better way to accomplish a thing i'm doing
i'm mostly transforming data in the end
get on it then
waxen panther
void void
tbfh should probably start toying with my minecraft c library again
for example generate C code from packet structures defined in a json file or something
i bet prismarinejs guys have them in json
minor badge
that mc lib guy looks like vsauce from michael
waxen panther
Nah he looks more like Michael from Vsauce
vsauce from michael looks completely different
typing ability strong
void void
vsauce is michael and michael is vsauce
twin lagoon
vsauce here
twin lagoon
command blocks
but uh no there's not really any "unknown" unobtainable blocks
like smooth stone
finite wave
You could disable stripping of logs, and use the stripped version of logs for whatever