general

[quasi valley]

^

[vernal moth]

Totally, I can't eat steak from the supermarket

[heady spear]

we used to buy meat from our friend that was a hunter too

[vernal moth]

It just tastes like shit

[heady spear]

a tonne of wild boar and moose

[vernal moth]

My grandpa was a hunter

[heady spear]

moose is kinda good ngl

[vernal moth]

Boar is amazing

[worn ember]

deer is 😋 too

[heady spear]

I'm not a huge fan of boar but I don't like pork either

reindeer is way better

[worn ember]

deer is so expensive tho

[vernal moth]

Boar just tastes wild, idk

[potent fossil]

what does wild taste like

[heady spear]

ye wild meat tastes different from farm animals

it tastes.. wild

[potent fossil]

wow

so you probably mean "fresh".

[heady spear]

but yall gotta try moose if you haven't

nah not fresh

wild

[vernal moth]

Not only fresh, it's kinda spicy but not in the hot meaning

Idk

Hard to explain

[heady spear]

ye it has way more flavour

boar especially

[worn ember]

duck is pretty good too

[heady spear]

But ye moose + reindeer are the only meats I actually like

[vernal moth]

Yeah flavor is a good term

[heady spear]

except for like... fish

[worn ember]

fish big bad

[vernal moth]

Fish isn't meat in the normal sense

[quasi valley]

fish big nice

[worn ember]

[potent fossil]

did yall know most fish you buy lived its entire life in a gigantic cyllindrical tank with about a hundred thousand others, some alive, quite a few dead and fed constantly throughout the day until fattened up then pulled out of the tank, filled up, and recolored to look good because the process of raising them in that tank had severely fucked them up and they were insanely malnutritional so their flesh looked gray

fun fact :)))))))

[heady spear]

But like catching your own salmon and preparing it

it's nice shit

[potent fossil]

unless you specifically go to the butcher and buy it ofc

or go to a fish market

[worn ember]

no

we get all our fish from the sea

[heady spear]

We don't live in the US

[vernal moth]

Fish is cool, but hard to cook

[heady spear]

We can actually get decent food here

I only eat wild caught fish

[vernal moth]

@potent fossil every food industry is fucked up if you source at the low end

[heady spear]

not farmed fish

[potent fossil]

oh of course

[worn ember]

^^

[vernal moth]

Like, just look at eggs

[heady spear]

when I grew up we caught most of the fish ourselves tbf

we didn't buy it very often

[worn ember]

EU also has harder regulations on antibiotics and whatever crap they inject into animals

[vernal moth]

Not hard enough

[heady spear]

But, Swedes gotta ruin the fish by pickling it...

[vernal moth]

Remember when Europe was infested with horse meat lasagna? 😂

[quasi valley]

the regulations aren't perfect still

[heady spear]

pickled herring is the weirdest shit

[quasi valley]

oh yeah that was great

[heady spear]

no, wait, surströmming is weirder.

[quasi valley]

alle essen lasagne außer conny, die mag kein pony

[heady spear]

Bruh there are still memes going around about the horse meat lasagna

[vernal moth]

Surströmming is the thing with the smell, right?

[heady spear]

https://www.saltakvarn.se/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/487722599146116777701185261779n.png

ye

it smells so bad

So findus was the company that sold horse meat here lol

[worn ember]

oh yeah i remember that

[heady spear]

Pickled herring isn't that bad tbh, but it's kinda strange. It's kinda slimey

Surströmming is just gross tho

who in their right mind would eat rotten fish

[vernal moth]

Isn't findus also a book? Petterson and findus 😂

[quasi valley]

is that the cat with the overall

[heady spear]

Pettsson och Findus

ye

it was also a children's show here

[quasi valley]

I had some obscure pc game of it that I also really loved

[heady spear]

didn't know it was a thing outside of Sweden lol

[vernal moth]

Germans rave about swedish child books

[heady spear]

I mean Astrid Lindgren was a thing

some of her shit got kinda big worldwide

like Pippi Långstrump 😛

[vernal moth]

Ye, all her shit was made into movies here

[heady spear]

like ur own movies or dubbed version of our movies?

[vernal moth]

Michel aus Lönneberga

[heady spear]

Emil i Lönneberga 😄

[vernal moth]

Not sure actually, wouldn't be surprised if we made our own too

[heady spear]

that's so fucking swedish tho lmao

https://bioregina.se/festival/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Emil-i-Lönneberga-affisch-web-672x372.jpg

she wrote some pretty good shit tho ngl

Ronja Rövardotter was lit

[vernal moth]

A had a whole section of the industry where they only made such movies, about fairy tales and sbit

[heady spear]

oh and she wrote this book about two brothers that died and went to heaven and shit

[vernal moth]

But ye, I remember that version so prolly just dubbed

[heady spear]

always made me cry a lot as a kid

Most of her books were turned into movies over here so it's probably just those dubbed

She's on our 20kr bills now 😄

[vernal moth]

Heh

[peak dirge]

Oh, it came to an unceremonious end https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/redisbungee-paid.98073/page-27#post-3818394

RIP RedisBungee 2013-2020

Cause of death: Me

Well, yeah, I moved onto Velocity.

[twin lagoon]

velocity doesn't have redis support though

[void void]

wuts the state of redisbungee-like thing on velocity rn anyway?

[twin lagoon]

i know that someone is working on it

it's not hard to implement afaik

[void void]

it's not yeah

[peak dirge]

2.0.0 might feature the bits you need to do multi-proxy on Velocity, though I do not plan to maintain a multi-proxy solution (RedisBungee has taught me I'm not really up to the job of maintaining such a solution against the needs of ignorant, stupid server owners)

[void void]

just... another thing i have to di 😩

do

haha ignorant server owners are the worst

[peak dirge]

for now, you can do an ad hoc approach ala RedisBungee

[spice finch]

Hello I paid for it $5, why don't you add feature especially for me

[void void]

"cuz that 5$ was a donation"

refunds

[peak dirge]

I told someone who was interested in such a solution that I would be charging significantly more than I charged for RedisBungee. RedisBungee was $12.49, a price that was too low for the amount of support I eventually had to provide.

The figure I quoted was $199/proxy with support

Of course, now RedisBungee is free and my offer would get tossed in the water.

I'm seriously considering offering a "full-service" admin package for Velocity support and charging people for the privilege of having me not literally link them to FAQ entry after FAQ entry

Just add my SSH key and ask your stupidest questions

I'll just take your money, thanks

[twin lagoon]

ssh key

[peak dirge]

Hell, I'll even work with your stinky CentOS 6 setup where you run all the servers as root and haven't applied updates in 17 months

[twin lagoon]

does this include root privileges & RCE yes

[peak dirge]

and you had a weak password so there's some IRC bot fucking you over and shoving out DDoS attacks

I was inspired by this work of art https://forums.velocitypowered.com/t/using-1-8-and-1-15-servers/418

[twin lagoon]

people who can't read documentation aren't worth the time

[peak dirge]

but if they pay me handsomely I will give a shit

on the principle of "don't bite the hand that feeds you"

[twin lagoon]

hot

[golden gust]

God, the guy am doing stuff for, decided to try to update ubuntu

That was some fun rolling back of stuff like mysql

[potent fossil]

i think i know who you might be referring to

[peak dirge]

When I was out on Spigot Service Beggar Street I would only work with Debian-based stuff

[twin lagoon]

good

[golden gust]

Told him the trick of how we handle upgrading servers we care about in production

[twin lagoon]

there's one guy i've worked with

non-LTS ubuntu version

threadripper colocated server

username & password is the same & very simple

[peak dirge]

he'll get a bitcoin miner in no time

[twin lagoon]

oh he had a different ssh port so there's that

it was also ubuntu desktop

[golden gust]

i remember this one time I created an LXC container, and forgot to delete the default account it creates :L

[twin lagoon]

it is the most disgusting setup i've ever seen

now it gets better

because the guy wrote a minecraft security guide a month later

[peak dirge]

we had a dev cluster running Ubuntu 17.04 and I'm shocked it wasn't totally fucked over

at least now our dev cluster uses Ubuntu 18.04 and is now "ok"

but those poor boxes...

I flagged the issue with the owner and we didn't do jack with them until the people paying for it yanked it last year and we moved it to DOKS and later onto a single-node k8s setup

[twin lagoon]

i have yet to understand kubernetes

[peak dirge]

funny enough, those boxes were destined to become our production boxes

[twin lagoon]

but i do have an ansible thing for etcd + k3s + nginx lb

[peak dirge]

but back then, k8s on bare metal was awful, you really needed to run it in the cloud

maybe next year we'll upgrade to Ubuntu 20.04 😛

[twin lagoon]

debian >

[peak dirge]

yeah, let's just mention all the OSes we could've run instead of Ubuntu

[twin lagoon]

also

LXC containers are fucking disgusting

[peak dirge]

we could've run the first TempleOS Minecraft network

we could've installed CentOS 6

we could've installed Gentoo

[twin lagoon]

i don't understand people who use centos for minecraft

[peak dirge]

we could've installed Rebecca Black OS

[twin lagoon]

now that's a new one

hannah montana & justin bieber linux however

[peak dirge]

that's a real distro guys

.g Rebecca Black OS

[limber knot]

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[twin lagoon]

This distribution is 3RD PARTY fan made. Yes. I am a fan of Rebecca Black.

alright

taylor swift linux when

#swifties-club

[peak dirge]

we could've installed OpenBSD and enjoyed a totally fscked timingscost, if FreeBSD wasn't bad enough

we could've installed Windows Server and really wanted to kill ourselves through pain

we could've installed macOS for some true memes

[twin lagoon]

macos wouldn't even be that bad

compared to windows

[peak dirge]

we could've installed MINIX

we could've gone retro and installed OS/2 1.0

[viral mulch]

MS DOS

[peak dirge]

or perhaps you wanted XENIX?

[twin lagoon]

was about to mention msdos

[peak dirge]

we could've installed this crap https://www.xinuos.com/products/openserver-10/

[twin lagoon]

IBM PC-DOS

OpenServer 10 runs on the lauded ZFS filesystem

this does not sound bad

[peak dirge]

is built on FreeBSD
now you're fucked

[viral mulch]

So glad it's Open

[peak dirge]

enjoy your 3000+ timingscost

and while we're at it, why stop at x86-compatible OSes?

[viral mulch]

Why even use an OS?

[twin lagoon]

why even run minecraft

[viral mulch]

Run everything kernel mode

[peak dirge]

We could've just acquired a bunch of PowerPC ThinkPads, installed PowerPC Windows NT 4.0 on them, and ran our servers on those?

[twin lagoon]

well

good for limbo servers & proxies

[viral mulch]

They made ThinkPads for PowerPC?

How old are you?

[peak dirge]

I am 22, I was not around when they made them.

[viral mulch]

Ah okay....

[twin lagoon]

could've just used the ibm pc/at

[peak dirge]

But I do read a supicious amount of vintage computing sites

[twin lagoon]

vintage computers are epic

[peak dirge]

And I can assure you, PowerPC ThinkPads definitely existed and are true collectors' items

We could've found a bunch of G5 Power Macs, installed Linux on them, and ran the server on those

[twin lagoon]

ugh just stick to fucking 1st gen raspberry pis

openvz hosting

[peak dirge]

can't run OpenVZ on my MIPS machine 😉

we could've bought a bunch of RISC-V dev boards and told you all to screw off because we're going into the F U T U R E

why stop there?

let's get some Acorn computers with the OG ARM processors

or we could install Solaris on our RS/6000s

and yes, Solaris PowerPC did in fact exist

.g solaris powerpc

[limber knot]

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[peak dirge]

okay, just read this https://virtuallyfun.com/wordpress/2020/05/28/powerpc-solaris-on-the-rs-6000/

Oracle murdered it, though. Nowadays, if you want something that feels sorta like a true Unix, you're going to get macOS.

[spice finch]

hackintosh?

cool haha

I was thinking about it, but my budget is too low for it I guess

[peak dirge]

Be careful

Apple is planning a switch to ARM chips in the future. Expect Intel Macs to meet a swift end in a few years.

[spice finch]

Yeah I have Intel CPU, but I want to switch to R5 2600 maybe

or something newer like R7 3600

[peak dirge]

Looks like Apple is going big - ARM will displace x86 everywhere

yep

Basically, enjoy your (Hackin|Ryzen)tosh while you can

Yes, but you'll have to work hard to find any that are powerful enough to tackle macOS

Raspberry Pis are cheap, but they're meant for Linux

ARM is pretty commonplace, but you're not going to be running macOS on your phone (unless you bought the expensive fruit-developed phones which run a variant of macOS) or Raspberry Pi anytime soon.

Pretty technical in nature, but the idea is that ARM is much more power-efficient than x86

x86-64 is CISC, ARM is RISC

AARCH64 is just 64-bit Arm

[static badge]

RISC > CISC change my mind

[peak dirge]

then again, you were the one who went p werpc

PowerPC is RISC.

[static badge]

shit

[peak dirge]

I'm pretty excited about Arm, don't get me wrong. I'll be the first guy who comes out with a version of Velocity with all natives compiled with aarch64 support.

In fact, I've got a branch for that already

I did a native compile on AWS Graviton2 instances.

I could have cross-compiled, but I'd also need to test to see if they actually worked.

A native compile worked out better for that.

You need to do cross-compilation

A Windows computer can't run a macOS application

Yes and no

No, because the tools to do it are easy to install. I'm sure what you need is in Homebrew.

Yes, because Windows and macOS are two different beasts

[minor badge]

i wish cross compilation for a lot of langs would've been as easy as with go

[peak dirge]

Rust comes the closest...

[minor badge]

2 env vars and compiler handles the rest; absolutely terrific, and undoubtedly one feature any and all other compilers like clang, gcc, rustc miss

indeed, but also requires some system packages as well, which sucks

[spice finch]

Why didn't https://github.com/Phoenix616/InventoryGui/pull/12 get linked with https://github.com/Phoenix616/InventoryGui/issues/11 🤔 I put (#11) in title. Isn't it how it works?

[peak dirge]

But yeah, Go makes it piss easy, mainly as they do their own tool chain

[golden gust]

Needs a keyword, e.g. fixes, etc

[spice finch]

mehh

[minor badge]

just add Fixes #11 in the description

editing works afaik

[spice finch]

Ah ok

Yes, it linked

[cedar spade]

People with access to manage issues can also manually link them through the desktop site I think

[golden gust]

yea

[heady spear]

I was basically half asleep when a random janitor showed up to replace my locks

he was looking at me weird

he was hot tho, this could have gone down a lot better

[spice finch]

Yeah, but I wanted to do it automatically so phoenix doesn't really has to put much effort in it 😄

[cedar spade]

Fair enough

I normally put closes/fixes #nnnn in the comment instead of the title

[worn ember]

I always copy the commit

[spice finch]

lmao yeah

[void void]

that site is legit

however that port is quite shit

[potent fossil]

whats uh...wrong with brew install emacs

its emacs...

[void void]

https://bitbucket.org/mituharu/emacs-mac/

you want this

[potent fossil]

yea but you dont install emacs for a gui

like

if you do, you're retarded

[void void]

in other words

https://github.com/railwaycat/homebrew-emacsmacport

this

yea but you dont install emacs for a gui

yeah and then lose bunch of features :p

that's not a thing you whine about

wtf

there are themes on terminal emacs you fuckwit

use vscode then

idk why are you trying to use a thing what's going to cause you an endless agony

if you can't do anything besides whine

wait until you realize whole emacs configuration is done via lisp

[potent fossil]

inb4 whats lisp

[minor badge]

lisp is beauty

and ive been considering going back to emacs but mmm

[potent fossil]

you're beauty

[worn ember]

Just use an editor like a normal person

[void void]

and holy shit how washed out that nord theme is

absolutely unusable

[minor badge]

i use vim and it's epic, but emacs has better lisp support

[void void]

might as well cut off few tiny cables from the display cable and make shit grayscale

[minor badge]

gruvbox or get out

[void void]

molokai

[worn ember]

Imagine having to use dos like guis in 2020 smh

[void void]

are you looking towards emacs because you can't run an IDE or vscode?

try replacing hackintosh with linux or something

[cedar spade]

imagine not using a modern GUI-based text editor that also has a command line

[void void]

and get your performance back

[worn ember]

Man. My 90 year old grandma can process that

[void void]

why are you coding on rpi 3

[cedar spade]

you bought a rpi and it affected your normal PC?

[worn ember]

Lol

More like affected the braincells

[minor badge]

i just use vim because it's more comfortable for me, and intellij-rust does not compare to rust-analyzer so i have no direct reason to use a gui app

[worn ember]

In that case sure

But cuz you wanna be one of the cool kids is just retarded

[void void]

there's no practical reason to use emacs unless you write lisp

so do you do lisp viper?

no

stop

[worn ember]

A fucking ide

[cedar spade]

VS Code

[worn ember]

Clion sucks tho

[void void]

ffs this is fucking retarded

[wide chasm]

How can you not run CLion - I can run CLion fine?

[worn ember]

Can agree with that

[void void]

going to do this to save my braincells

there

[worn ember]

I'm pretty sure his specs are worse

[wide chasm]

Is a raspberry pi 3 less powerful than my pc, though

[minor badge]

just use vim or emacs viper

or clion, or whichever else is more comfy

[cedar spade]

vimacs

[void void]

.g doom-emacs

[limber knot]

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[wide chasm]

Ehh seems to have little RAM, so I guess that could be a problem.

[worn ember]

.g spacemacs

[limber knot]

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[void void]

no fuck spacemacs

[worn ember]

No fuck you

[void void]

no u

[cedar spade]

.g visual studio code

[limber knot]

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[void void]

spacemacs is full trash compared to doom

bloatware

[worn ember]

I don't even use it

I just know the name

[worn ember]

If it doesn't have clickable gui elements I don't care about it

[cedar spade]

wdym you don't want to install and run a full separate browser

[worn ember]

Just use the pi to ssh into your desktop kappa

[cedar spade]

how well does that remote vscode server work nowadays?

[worn ember]

Yes

[void void]

remote vscode server?

the live share thing?

[cedar spade]

.g code-server

[void void]

it fucking sucks

[limber knot]

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[void void]

desyncs in first 5 minutes

[cedar spade]

That

never bothered with Live Share, don't plan to either

[void void]

yeah don't

[minor badge]

code-server works decent

it's not exactly my cup of tea but it works

[cedar spade]

basically runs the node side on a server and the browser side in a separate browser wherever you want to connect

[golden gust]

The idea is nice and something I've kinda desired for a while, especially when I consider stuff like my dated laptop, there have been times where something like that woulda been nice

[vernal moth]

I use gitpod.io sometimes when at work

It's eclipse theia, basically vscode in the cloud

Comes with terminal and open ports and sbit

It's pretty cool

[heady spear]

put everything in the cloud!!!

[wide chasm]

The cloud is the future!

[vernal moth]

Until it rains

[potent fossil]

you are very impressionable

so does vscode and IJ

ok retard

damn i need more space for my games

im uninstalling shit now :'(

[vernal moth]

Vscode is an amazing tool

[potent fossil]

wow $40 1tb

been a while since i bought a disk

[dapper nacelle]

why cant docker on windows just be a smooth experience

[twin lagoon]

because it's a virtual machine

[fallen oracle]

Because it's windows

[quasi valley]

because you're doing it

[polar sonnet]

the cloud is just someone elses computer

[void void]

no shit

[polar sonnet]

the interenet is just other computers

lifes like a computer, constantly connecting to one another for no real goal

r/im14andthisverydeep

[void void]

except for the kenyan hacker who managed to brute force you. from point A to point B to fuck you into your ass

[polar sonnet]

actually your wrong

was a friend

so

[void void]

was or still is

[fallen oracle]

Oh, Tech?

[polar sonnet]

was

[fallen oracle]

Or he thought was.

[polar sonnet]

I changed passwors and rewiped

Need to enable keys etc

so no, kenyan did not fuck me in my ass this time

this time

• i had backups so

[void void]

was thinking that i should have 3rd replica of my network as well...

but local

should buy some 1TB hdd

or larger

[fallen oracle]

Yeah I have a local ptero panel setup so I can just test shit on the fly.

[void void]

i just have sanoid constantly syncing and i usually have a database dump on my laptop of the management database

mainly for adding new features

[fallen oracle]

Ooo

[minor badge]

mikro sux

[void void]

no

u sux

[polar sonnet]

jimmy junglecock

[void void]

the what

[polar sonnet]

jimmy

junglecock

[void void]

moooods he said a bad word

[pulsar wigeon]

bans

[fallen oracle]

He's said a few

[polar sonnet]

wait can u not say bad words?

oh shoot my bad

[pulsar wigeon]

this is a christian minecraft server

[void void]

ye no cucks in the jungle

[fallen oracle]

CMS FTW

[polar sonnet]

ah yes ball cheese mmmm

[pulsar wigeon]

.-.

[void void]

no erping

[pulsar wigeon]

do you want to be banned

[fallen oracle]

https://media.tenor.com/images/7ded5b9dc3b9666010a7f85934b20e55/tenor.gif

So it sounds like NASCAR is back to IRL, at least from what I've seen.

[polar sonnet]

anyone want to larp online

[void void]

no

[polar sonnet]

ok thanks

the us justice system is broken

[vernal moth]

s/justice system//

No sed bot?

[pulsar wigeon]

what is this dude smoking

[polar sonnet]

no like im watching a video rn

as of november 2019 there 166 deathrow exonorations

thats 166 peoples lifes ruined

[pulsar wigeon]

do you know what an exoneration is

[polar sonnet]

qyes

when the convicted crime is reversed aka not guilt

anyways thats my daily shit speal

[vernal moth]

I need context, how many ppl in deathrow in total in that timeframe?

[drowsy canyon]

#350 is coming , yay 🥳

[vernal moth]

Like what's the percentage?

[void void]

i think he isn't smoking, just more high than usual from his dank green feet smell

[pulsar wigeon]

there's no timeframe there

[polar sonnet]

1 sec like my find the study link

[void void]

em i gonna fail highschool

[pulsar wigeon]

exonerations sometimes happen decades later

[vernal moth]

So it's in total or what?

I don't get that number

Just throwing around numbers without context is just stupid

[pulsar wigeon]

from what he said, it's completely noncontextual

[limber knot]

42!

[polar sonnet]

in total from november 2019

[void void]

2020

[polar sonnet]

166 exonerations

[pulsar wigeon]

all it means is that they found/looked for a lot of exonerating evidence recently

well, and idk if that's even a lot

[polar sonnet]

But anyways I think the whole justice system as a whole is broken

The fact that people make money off private prisons is kinda disgusting

[void void]

wtf is happening

it's called capitalism

[polar sonnet]

Ik

[void void]

i'm seeing 3 different points being made somehow

[vernal moth]

Somebody watched a dum YouTube vid and is spitting facts without context now

That's what happening

[void void]

ah ok

[polar sonnet]

Wdym what context do you need?

[vernal moth]

A number without a scale is meaningless

[pulsar wigeon]

he literally just asked

[polar sonnet]

Oh my bad

[pulsar wigeon]

and you were like "let me get the study"

[polar sonnet]

I dont really have an answe to that then

[pulsar wigeon]

and then you keep just spouting random shit

[vernal moth]

Is 166 much? Or few? Did it go up? Or down?

[pulsar wigeon]

bruh again

what are you smoking

[polar sonnet]

Was jsut saying there were 166 exonerations from novemember 2019

[limber knot]

non US people

[vernal moth]

How many ppl in desth row in total? What's the percentage of ppl who got exonerations?

[limber knot]

discussing US politics

[void void]

whats an exoneration

[limber knot]

[polar sonnet]

1 sec then

Reverse of crime @void void

[void void]

ah ok

a bot is texting

[pulsar wigeon]

no not reverse of crime tf

[void void]

what??

oh

[pulsar wigeon]

it means someone was later found innocent after a conviction

[polar sonnet]

There were 2565 people on death row in 2019

[void void]

ok

[pulsar wigeon]

at some point, including after they were executed in the cases of the death penalty

[vernal moth]

@void void you get the death toll, later, haha was just a prank you did nothing you can go

[pulsar wigeon]

which is why these numbers are entirely useless

[polar sonnet]

The fact I can buy prison stock

[limber knot]

sucks if you were already killed, lol

[void void]

haha was just a prank look there's the camera

ebin

The fact I can buy prison stock

[void void]

like i said

capitalism

exoneration is someone that was convicted of crime but then they found enough evidence that they are not guilty ? is that what you guys trying to say

[vernal moth]

Yes

[void void]

ok

take back what

[polar sonnet]

Idk we should legalize everything

[void void]

????

you whine about being able to buy prison stock

[polar sonnet]

Im looking at stats for drug related possesions

[void void]

now you say that

[polar sonnet]

?

[void void]

i watch a YT video, a homeless man said he was part of drugs, later he got prisoned, then he said i was trying to get back in society after leaving the prison. He tryed to get a home on a like a supporting organization that helps convicted people change. But he couldnt get a home because he was a drug dealer, they rather gave it to a child rapist...

[waxen panther]

[void void]

Life is Hard :C

[polar sonnet]

Treat drug possesion like alchohal if they have it whatever, if they are under the infleunce driving or whatever then a dui or some sort, same applies to other charges

[void void]

whatevs, i'm outta here

[polar sonnet]

later

[void void]

me to im out cya

i've lost more braincells here today than... ever

[polar sonnet]

I feel like im making a decent point, I just don't know how to convey it so I dont sound retarded

not shit

[void void]

school work 😡

good

[icy fractal]

Buycraft vs Enjin vs Xenforo who is the best?

[twin lagoon]

what

none of them are comparable

enjin is trash

xenforo is unnecessary in 2020

buycraft is tebex, tebex is an ecommerce platform

[void void]

mmmm its a nice feeling to have a bunch of ram lying around isn't it

[slim nymph]

how is xenforo unncessary

my server would prob die w/o forums

[spice finch]

GC is ran periodically every X minutes or only when JVM is starting to miss RAM?

[twin lagoon]

your server has existed for ages

[slim nymph]

our strength is in communiy and relationships, forums strengthen that bond

[twin lagoon]

xenforo is completely useless for most new servers

almost everyone uses a blog & discord now

[slim nymph]

so new servers shouldnt try to build a strong community?

[twin lagoon]

discord can be used for that

[void void]

^

[slim nymph]

not the same

[void void]

better for socialising

[slim nymph]

my forums still get more use than discord

socializing yes

discussion no

they are different

[spice finch]

It depends on country tbh

[void void]

fair enough, you must have a smarter community then

[twin lagoon]

it depends on your server

not country

[slim nymph]

yes i dont attract trash 😛

[waxen panther]

[slim nymph]

they tend to quit fast

pvp servers sure i can see

[limber knot]

it depends on the topic, lol

[void void]

thats why i hate when youtube invasions happen on servers

[slim nymph]

but even 2b has a forum community

[quasi valley]

imagine using discord or a blog for unban requests, longer suggestion threads or whatever

[twin lagoon]

2b has reddit

[void void]

2b is mostly on discord

[slim nymph]

thats a forum

[twin lagoon]

their guilds are mainly discord

yes

[limber knot]

discord sucks for acrhiving stuff and discussing topics over the course of several weeks

[void void]

^

[quasi valley]

there's 100% still good reasons to use forums/xenforo

[twin lagoon]

sure there are

but it's definitely dying down

[quasi valley]

[void void]

is it just me or is the world clan rising again

[limber knot]

well, the parts of forums that were used in place of instant chats are dying down

[void void]

most of the new players seem to be asking about clans for some reason

[limber knot]

because now there are better/easier solutions ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[quasi valley]

there's probably little reason to setup a proper forum if you are new and/or have only a small handful of players, but it surely won't be dying down anytime soon for any sort of larger networks

[limber knot]

but only using blog + discord results in a very top-down form of community management where you will most likely have zero community involvelvement as they can't really form groups and formulate plans in separate topics

[twin lagoon]

depends on what you call large

i've seen plenty of larger networks move away

[limber knot]

large networks care about money though

not about community, lol

[twin lagoon]

and community is an important aspect of that

[quasi valley]

the only servers I saw doing that were people that came heavily under fire for scummy tactics, just do force disable community interaction 😂

[waxen panther]

ehh, even in community based servers I see a lot of their forums die now a days

no one wants to take the effort to go to a separate site when they're already talking in discord

[twin lagoon]

yes

[vernal moth]

Spigot discord be like

[waxen panther]

lmfao

[quasi valley]

vagdedes

[vernal moth]

Or more like, anticheat devs be like

[twin lagoon]

a reminder that this guy works for cubecraft

[quasi valley]

good thing he hasn't found his way into paper

[twin lagoon]

he has

[waxen panther]

[twin lagoon]

he has been banned afaik

[slim nymph]

one of our oldest and biggst threads

[void void]

woah

[vernal moth]

He works for cube?

Oh god

[twin lagoon]

yep

.g vagdedes cubecraft

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/mgm-minigame-maker-paid.310110/ -- Premium - MGM | Minigame Maker [Paid] | SpigotMC - High ...: "Mar 21, 2018 ... Vagdedes submitted a new resource: Minigame Maker | 1.7 - 1.12.2 [BRAND ... Can I use this plugin to do like cubecraft bingo..."

[vernal moth]

Should I tell zed 🤔 😂

[limber knot]

meanwhile my players are actively using the "meme" thread on my forums instead of discord, lol

[twin lagoon]

fucking shit bot

sec

[quasi valley]

lmao

but that search to link sums vagdedes up pretty well

[slim nymph]

Zed's in here

[void void]

i remembe seeing someone with that picture

[limber knot]

advertising 👀

[void void]

i remember them being an asshole

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[waxen panther]

fookin bing

[vernal moth]

I mean, cube was really desperate for anticheat devs, I guess they had no choice but to hire assholes

[icy fractal]

I understand if I want one that will host a whole store and a forum, which is the best? buycraft is very good is the one I currently use but it is only used if you are going to buy or see something

[twin lagoon]

tebex isn't a forum

you need tebex + something else like enjin or xenforo

xenforo > enjin

[vernal moth]

If you really hate yourself you can do that

Lol

[slim nymph]

@lavish nova is this guy really working for yall. sounds like a piece of shit

[limber knot]

if you want some all in one use whatever CMS (wordpress, joomla, grav) and install a forum and shop plugin ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[twin lagoon]

i'm not sure if vagdedes works for cubecraft actually

can't find his name in the list

maybe i confused him with someone else sec

[slim nymph]

yeah someone else in spigot discord said he did

[twin lagoon]

i could've sworn i saw him

[waxen panther]

grav

[twin lagoon]

oh

oh funkemunky

[vernal moth]

Yeah funkemunky does

That I know

[twin lagoon]

yeah it was funkemunky lol my bad

he is yeah

not as bad as vagdedes

[slim nymph]

because vag was argueing with him other day

[vernal moth]

Every member of that part of the community is

I played with the idea to get into anti cheat shit before, to develop a nice open source solution

But then I remembered that I don't hate myself that much

[slim nymph]

lol

[vernal moth]

To have to deal with such ppl

[slim nymph]

lets just encrypt paper source with x0r encryption, then do it in paper

[vernal moth]

Make sure you get enough beer

[quasi valley]

your time is better spent otherwise

[vernal moth]

If beer even is enough

[quasi valley]

prolly hard vodka

make a satan plugin

[vernal moth]

I had a nice discussion in spigot the other day with a anticheat dude about how the protocol should be adjusted

I plan to bring that up in Mondays meeting

[limber knot]

wanna c another nice discussion?

[vernal moth]

Basically give the server movement authority

[waxen panther]

[vernal moth]

Iirc it was the hawk dudd

[limber knot]

this just in, per-world permissions is a hacky workaround. https://github.com/AcmeProject/WildernessTp/issues/80#issuecomment-642322616

[vernal moth]

Because fighting chests at the protocol level really is the only effective way

Cheats*

[void void]

haha viper wants to make an anticheat

[twin lagoon]

[quasi valley]

the part where you make an anticheat

[void void]

and then people find a way around it

these days its a good AAC config that matters

[lavish nova]

hello

i was tagged

[void void]

hello

[twin lagoon]

zed

[quasi valley]

falsely tagged, you can wonder off again 😂

[void void]

60 messages

[twin lagoon]

there was a bit confusion on whether vagdedes was working for you or not

[lavish nova]

who

[twin lagoon]

it was funkemunky

not vagdedes

[lavish nova]

oh

[twin lagoon]

you can go now

[vernal moth]

Basically I posted a screenshot here of vagadedes being a asshole on spigot discord and Michael said he works for who

And I was like, wtf

But then we figured Michael is just dum

[twin lagoon]

[void void]

impossible

[potent fossil]

vagdedes being asshole? whats new

[waxen panther]

Fuck you Michael

[vernal moth]

#general message if you want to read back

[lavish nova]

ah ok

so no drama

and my devs arent causing trouble

[void void]

not yet™️

[upper flicker]

there's always drama in here

[potent fossil]

[lavish nova]

[static badge]

mfw being this petty

[pulsar wigeon]

per world perms is a hacky workaround tbh :^)

contextual permissions would be nice if they existed from the start but nah

[limber knot]

bukkit is a hacky workaround

Mojang API wen?!?

runs

[quasi valley]

didn't they start and abandon wrapping bedrock server software?

[slim nymph]

they arent adding an api, they are making things data driven so you can configure custom behavior through data packs.

and mojang doesnt want to disrupt java mods

theyd still be required for custom behavior, but this is a good design overall. registeries, mods can keep their code lean and register to registery, then programmatically insert the records into entities

[limber knot]

the guy's blindly ranting now

[quasi valley]

with the tags it only sucks that you have to fill in every single tag yourself if you disable the vanilla datapack behaviour

or else the client just crashes

[slim nymph]

why would you disable the base datapack

thats just a bad idea

[quasi valley]

clearing out tags

not that I do that, but I've heard a lotta people complain 👀

and its extra hacks in Via

[polar sonnet]

if(speed.equals(.05)){

ban(player_

^ anticheat is made thanks

if(player.getFlight().equals(true){
ban(player)
}

[limber knot]

once upon a time I tried. https://github.com/RoboMWM/MehCheat

[polar sonnet]

bam no flight either god this is easy

[quasi valley]

looks like the worst pseudo code anyone has ever not had the pleasure to make up

[polar sonnet]

if(player.isHacking){
ban(player, "get fucked kid")

[quasi valley]

no

[polar sonnet]

who is vaginadedes

oh

the anticheat guy

[quasi valley]

my good keep can you one day not act like you're 12

[polar sonnet]

oh shit

@quasi valley no im retarded

[quasi valley]

can relate

[limber knot]

shakes the magic 8 ball... It is decidedly so

[polar sonnet]

lmfao

[limber knot]

shakes the magic 8 ball... Maybe...

[polar sonnet]

F

ah yes 18 tps mhmm

that just sounds like a shitty host + shitty config tbh

.8ball is it just a shiity host + terrible configs?

[limber knot]

shakes the magic 8 ball... In your dreams

[polar sonnet]

ok nevermind im wrong the plugin is just shit

[potent fossil]

i was scrolled up woops

[void void]

what is this abomination

[polar sonnet]

komodo

dragon

[void void]

keepitfresh irl

[polar sonnet]

you ever see komodos wrestle?

[void void]

yes

[polar sonnet]

fuckin crazy

[void void]

mfw discord this is total cancer

hmmm

should hide messages like irc

imo

i know you can do some css thing so that those don't show, but discord bans that

[polar sonnet]

rip viper

[void void]

well i could do css thing on computer

but on phone

but thing is discord bans that

idc

[minor badge]

substratum could probably work but youre an ipleb so

[void void]

i'll simply make new account

if someoen reports, discord TOS booyakasha

wtf is that word

mods own client side

[minor badge]

theyve publicly stated they dont give a shit about client mods

[void void]

gets reported

[minor badge]

if it doesnt rape the api w requests or abuse, they wont do shit abt it

[twin lagoon]

if it doesn't use the api at all*

[void void]

wrong, someone reports and they deactivate the account

[twin lagoon]

tos warning ^

if you use client mods for themeing or whatsoever

[void void]

like better discord isn't raping the API

[twin lagoon]

no way they'll do anything

[void void]

like i said, idc

[minor badge]

are you autistic

[twin lagoon]

BD only touches the API if a plugin does

[minor badge]

they dont give a shit if it doesnt fuck with their servers

[twin lagoon]

they do

[void void]

i know lots of people who beg to differ

[twin lagoon]

Please note that your account has been flagged by the Discord community for violations of our Terms of Service through the use of our API. Our API documentation explicitly states that a bot account is required to use our API: "Automating normal user accounts (generally called "self-bots") outside of the OAuth2/bot API is forbidden, and can result in an account termination if found."

[void void]

heck, people use ripcord without any issues

[twin lagoon]

they likely won't do shit

i know plenty of people who haven't received anything for just using themes

[void void]

they only do stuff if its reported

[limber knot]

only "self-bots" existing in dumcord

[minor badge]

so step 1) dont automate your account

[twin lagoon]

the only thing i've done with the API was a quoting plugin which sent embeds

[limber knot]

dumcord is a hacky workaround

[twin lagoon]

it doesn't need to rape the API or whatever

if you send 1 message not possible w/ the vanilla client & get reported

you get flagged

[void void]

i mean yeh

that makes sense

no?

don't do dum shit and that's it

[twin lagoon]

just avoid touching the API unless necessary and you're fine

[void void]

correct

[slim nymph]

"the only thing i've done with the API was a quoting plugin which sent embeds"
And that's what will get you

doing things a normal user cant

[twin lagoon]

to be fair

it's only if you get reported

they don't automate that shit at all

[slim nymph]

yeah but this is minecraft, a community who loves to cause harm to anyone they can

[twin lagoon]

wasn't even minecraft

was r/homelab's discord

bunch of cocks

[slim nymph]

ok s/minecraft/discord

[void void]

i wonder how many times have people here tried to report irc bridge

"omg userbots"

[slim nymph]

thats a bot, its ok

oh

well they just dont want non bot api is the thing

but irc is actually webhooks lol

[limber knot]

a bot has a tag and all

[void void]

yeah but real person talking behind it == must be self bot

[waxen panther]

blocked messages not being actually hidden is the worst part about discord

[void void]

i remember someone claiming that

[quasi valley]

[waxen panther]

they're huge too

[vernal moth]

A self bots that uses a bot account would actually be ok

[slim nymph]

yeah i hate it, its more annoying sometimes than seeing the response

[quasi valley]

yeah I remember 2-3 people like that too

[vernal moth]

Just not really useful

[slim nymph]

i would block some dicks on spigot if it wasnt so annoying

[vernal moth]

I have never blocked anyone my whole life, lol

[slim nymph]

like that Phaze person. made sure they werent in paper the other day lol

[vernal moth]

I just ignore ppl

[slim nymph]

didnt realize we had banned vage, i was curious why it was pinging me about paper in spigot discord other day

[void void]

Phaze?

idk i left spigot

[slim nymph]

someone on spigot discord. dont remember what he said but remember him just saying some piece of shit things the other day

[void void]

it's 1000x worse 24/7 than #general here few hours a day

viper ur the one making this channel worse

[waxen panther]

it's like 100 vipers talking to eachother

you beat me

[void void]

ye

[waxen panther]

😠

[void void]

succolai

[vernal moth]

Phase was a asshole in some BLM discussion

[slim nymph]

you bible thumped obviously /s

[waxen panther]

put a shirt on a wolf

smh

[void void]

i think it's still Phaze not Phase

[slim nymph]

yeah with z

[void void]

phase is someone else, saner guy

:p

[slim nymph]

this guy

[void void]

mega cringe

also succolai did you like the special role i gave you in my guild

[polar sonnet]

this is a pretty cool video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eC7f9tMslVE

[fallen sleet]

^

[neat smelt]

^

but yeah its great, also really interesting how much effort they put into that

[polar sonnet]

^

the oldest anarachy server in minecraft

[void void]

https://www.planetminecraft.com/mob-skin/train-crashing-into-two-innocent-pedestrians/

[tame ocean]

yall idk if this counts as ad but go get ark for free on epic games xd

[void void]

They are not innocent if they are walking in front of a train

[polar sonnet]

still cant believe mc dungeons isnt cloud saved

[static badge]

wtf

[polar sonnet]

?

[potent fossil]

Just installed arch on a fresh partition of my PC

No DE yet any suggestions

[void void]

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

no de

i3 or bspwm

[potent fossil]

I was thinking i3 gaps

[void void]

ye

arch

honestly should take my linux laptop

and set up reproducible i3 installation

[waxen panther]

Spigots post editor thing / whatever is so annoying to use

[void void]

it is

[waxen panther]

gives me so much autism when i use it

[waxen panther]

remski!!!

my friend

nice guy

and yeah, finding the right text size gives me a headache everytime

i wish it was just markdown

[limber knot]

s/ C math.h library/

Correction, <DiscordBot> <10T​he​Vi​pe​rS​ho​w> damn I'm disappointed by** **

[quasi valley]

wow I messed it up

[latent valve]

Wow kenny u bad

https://media.tenor.com/images/6d67f8b0deebe100784e4eb7522aee5b/tenor.gif

[void void]

did you sit on the table or what?

[slim nymph]

@tame ocean man epic games must be really trying to get people to switch lol

but i assume its just base game free right, base games free on xbox too for gamepass

as they make most their money on expacks

[tame ocean]

i mean they showed the ps5 tech demo too and got a alot of hype and alot of publicity

[slim nymph]

i should rent my own damn server to play casually with friends ._. crystal isles is coming out 😦

[tame ocean]

not wrong

[slim nymph]

downside is that annoying ass kid would come back to being around lol. me not playing ark escaped him 😛

got this kid i told he could only join my clan if he worked on being more mature, he failed hard

[left swift]

Tell em str8 up

[slim nymph]

oh i did

im straight up w/ him that im not happy with his immaturity and gave him a final warning

but we all quit ark after that lol

i felt bad for him as he had no friends, and he knows what i say is right, but you know how school is, wanting to fit in w/ rest of the immature ass kids

really annoying though in ark when mistakes have permanent consequences, and to find someone else took out your personal prized dinosaur and risked it (or worse, got it killed)

and he was bad about not respecting peoples shit

i prefer ark clans to be communist lol

its a situation where communism works. if it doesnt, the person violating it is at fault

the game was designed for it

[minor badge]

ark is that dinosaur game right

[slim nymph]

yep

[quasi valley]

I had to stop playing it because a person remembered they once shared their steam acc to me lol

[slim nymph]

if you have gamepass, you can play WSL version for free

and base free game gets all community created content free too

which is some of the nicer maps....

only gotta pay for official maps

downside with running ark servers is you need a server per map :/

so you gotta choose what maps you care about as running entire game is quite costly

specially if its a small private server where everyones usually on same map or only temporarily switches

but official servers are the definition of masochism. id rather be punched in balls than deal with that shit anymore.

you have to quit your job to be a pro player on official

raising a baby Giga takes 2 real life weeks of being in game EVERY 8 hours on the dot, with only a few minutes window of missing that timing allowed.

needless to say thats not compatible with working

[slim nymph]

oh and thats just for 1 detail, you still need to be on every 4 hours or so between that too to go feed the thing for 2 weeks straight

[void void]

alright i know properly understand why this is a very dedicated kind of game

it sounds like raising a child tbh

[slim nymph]

unofficial servers bring those concepts to sanity, reducing time, allowing clan members to help you (clan cant help on official)

[jagged egret]

I can't figure out how to convert an HTML file to a PDF on a raspberry pi from command line, any ideas?

[slim nymph]

it is

[void void]

https://www.cyberciti.biz/open-source/html-to-pdf-freeware-linux-osx-windows-software/

[slim nymph]

i was literally setting alarms to wake up every 1hr while sleeping to go refill food on babies. its horrible lol

[void void]

wtf

[quasi valley]

sounds unhealthy

😂

[slim nymph]

though primitive mode was making it worse/harder. least on standard mode you got pokeballs

so yeah i would never play that mode again 😛

[void void]

wake up every hour, take 10 mins to go to sleep, 5 mins to feed, so thats 1/4 less sleep, and of worse quality

[still cape]

can i put gamemode creative @p in a commandblock (and another for survival) so it will give gm1/0 to the player pushing the button? i am trying but it's not working... or what's the syntax for it?

is it not possible unless i specify the actual player name?

[slim nymph]

bulding in that game is more fun than minecraft though.

thats what i mainly enjoyed doing

wyverns were also fun. very thrilling experience lol. so intimidating to a new player

to have your own wyvern, you have to enter the wyverns nest, which on foot you can not survive a wyvern. only 2 things fly faster than a wyvern, 1) a wyvern of your own sprinting, 2) a pterodactyl, the weakest flyer in the game that a wyvern and melt like plastic, and only when sprinting which has very limited stamina...

and then you have to steal a wyvern egg. And oh boy, here's where it gets fun. Every wyvern in a large radius knows you stole it and immediately starts flying to you

so, its now a question of can you get out alive....

[void void]

now thats a game where i understand someone using cheats or bots

[slim nymph]

it gets worse....

so say you do get out with that egg. take it back home. you need massive amounts of heat to incubate the egg to hatch it. but when the baby hatches.... oh it wont eat normal food

you need wyverns milk.... and the only way to get milk... well your going back to that wyverns nest, finding a female, and intentionally aggro her. you then have to trap her, tranq it, go up and milk the teets (ok no actual visuals here, you just access her inventory and take it out), and then either kill her before she wakes up and obliterates you (which is like a mere 15 seconds of sleep time), or run the hell away.

and you need to repeat that milk gathering multiple times because the milk expires super fast

[void void]

sounds like making an anticheat is easier lmao

[slim nymph]

before I quit official I raised like 30 wyverns in a single week then just gave them all away

[void void]

so ur on a community server now?

[waxen panther]

[slim nymph]

im on no server atm lol

the one i went to decided to fuck everyone and wipe the server

so my group quit ark after that

[void void]

ah yeah, shame

[slim nymph]

heres one big bs on that. they said they wanted to wipe because the vets had super op dinos and wanted to start fresh to have something to work towards.
then they said the owner would get to keep his super op T Rex's but noone else could keep theirs

[worn ember]

i liked ark but i'm a lone wolf when it comes to playing games so i never got anything done

so i spent 3 weeks building a base to come on to see it wiped

so yeah

[slim nymph]

lol, let me guess, derelict system got it?

i hate that fucking system

[worn ember]

idk what that is

[slim nymph]

wipes bases of anyone who hasnt played in X Days, where X is defined by building material. so a wooden base dies in 8 days

[worn ember]

oh i played

[slim nymph]

fuck you if you like the aethestics of wood

[worn ember]

it was raided is what i meant

[slim nymph]

oh pvp, yeah pvp is cut throat. dont get attached lol

[worn ember]

attached? More like dont bother trying cuz its not worth your time 🙂

[limber knot]

just stay online to defend it? smh

[worn ember]

4 hours to tame an animal to see its dead the next day you come on

yeah you pretty much need 24/h coverage to not get raided

[waxen panther]

you need 25/h coverage to not get raided on rust

[void void]

https://github.com/disclearing/Skid-List wtf is this shit lol, appeared on my gh feed

[waxen panther]

someone mad

[void void]

"DevCole" - "-10 tps on everything he makes."