general

[cunning raft]

ish

[quasi valley]

yea

[cunning raft]

or resource section

[ornate spindle]

https://umod.org/plugins?page=1&sort=title&sortdir=asc another example of such software

[quasi valley]

"Plugin repository, targeted at paper plugins."

what I love ore most for is this https://i.imgur.com/y4dNPLv.png

[minor badge]

@quasi valley stinky

[quasi valley]

@minor badge AAa

[limber knot]

ping

[void void]

pong

[tired heath]

iptables -A INPUT -p icmp --icmp-type echo-request -j REJECT

[minor badge]

thank

[quasi valley]

thonk

[tired heath]

🙂

[minor badge]

shush it fake dinnerbone

[quasi valley]

wow that's upsidedownist

[minor badge]

😠

[void void]

no upsidedownism!

[slim nymph]

If you didn't see, Light Optimization RC3 was released last night: https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/pull/3506

[twin lagoon]

anyone know how to parse bash variables from a variable containing text that has a variable inside of it?

[slim nymph]

@twin lagoon test! 😛

[minor badge]

@twin lagoon u mean "Thing \$VAR here" to actually substitute the var?

[twin lagoon]

eh

[olive marlin]

@twin lagoon What you mean? Want to evaluate the variable? I'd probably do <<<"${VAR}" envsubst

[twin lagoon]

i'm setting a variable from jq output

test=$(jq -r .test test.json)

[ornate spindle]

@slim nymph should push that as an announcement to get as many testers as possible since not everyone has this channel loaded

[twin lagoon]

"test": "testing $test" in json

but it shows up as exactly that without parsing $test when trying to echo the variable or using it somewhere else

[quasi valley]

btw why don't you have a dev branch with automated builds in general

[slim nymph]

gonna save announcement for hwen its actually released 😛 not looking for tons of yes's, just some, then well merge

[minor badge]

https://owo.whats-th.is/3UbdRF6.png @twin lagoon

[twin lagoon]

i'll throw RC3 on in a few

hmm, i'll check sec

[ornate spindle]

ah fair enough

[olive marlin]

I'd do envsubst. <<<"${test}" envsubst.

[twin lagoon]

that did it

lit

[olive marlin]

Though it's external program 🙂

[minor badge]

luckily any sane distro has support for searching for files in all packages

[twin lagoon]

think it's installed by default

[minor badge]

not on all distros

[twin lagoon]

on any sane distro

kek

i'm just looking for debian 10 compatibility here

it works on arch in WSL so far so

[minor badge]

not on void anyways, had to fetch gettext for it

[tired heath]

What would be a nice short version for getInstance

[minor badge]

but that wasnt hard to find with xlocate envsubst

[strange oyster]

is there a reason to use aikars flags for launching minecraft on a pc?

or is it nonsense

[minor badge]

you can use his flags on anything on the jvm

[strange oyster]

yeah i know but would it help?

[void void]

not nonsense, they're like magic

[minor badge]

yes most likely would help

[void void]

would help

[strange oyster]

crazy i thought they only would help a server

but not my minecraft client

[twin lagoon]

i'd probably use openj9 on your client

since it reduces memory usage

[minor badge]

one of these days i should rewrite birbfetcher again for anything not-jvm lol

[strange oyster]

i did use it but my modpack took longer to start

openj9

^

[minor badge]

used openj9 while i was on arch, worst decision i did with how slow data fixers are

[strange oyster]

also aikars flags wont work with openj9 i guess

[minor badge]

most do

[strange oyster]

oh okay

did not expect that

[pale river]

.openj9

[limber knot]

OpenJ9 remains an area of research, discussion, and experimentation within the community. For current recommendations see https://steinborn.me/posts/tuning-minecraft-openj9/

[frozen jacinth]

https://timings.aikar.co/?id=9657202b797f4dc09adcad97c229594e
Goddamn these are good timings

use Tuinity guys

[tired heath]

Your average server tps runs 19,81 ms behind

[waxen panther]

I mean it's only 50 players lol

solid 20tps with 50 isn't that hard

[frozen jacinth]

yeah ik

I'm just looking at the TPS loss %

much better than paper

[quasi valley]

solid 20tps with 50 isn't that hard
saying that as if paper wouldnt do the magic for you

[waxen panther]

[frozen jacinth]

Tunity is way more optimised

[slim nymph]

please dont shill for people to use tuinity here

[peak dirge]

I

[frozen jacinth]

okay okay then

[peak dirge]

I'd remove MobFarmManager - Zrips plugins are known to cause lag

[slim nymph]

tuinity simply has more experiemental stuff. which guess what, eventually comes down to paper 😛

[frozen jacinth]

Technically it's better for me if less people use Tuinity

guys use Bukkit

[tired heath]

Your % of load is in about mine on a development citybuild server not optimized yet doing 10 rtps while timings

just saying 😄

[waxen panther]

[slim nymph]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY @ancient bolt hope your having some good booze today

[slim nymph]

People are trying to say this is proof that PS > Xbox, when it reality it's the opposite. It shows these looters are lowlife idiots who don't realize there are no games in those cases. Xbox users clearly are smarter and either wouldnt be looting in first place or doesnt go after an empty box....

[peak dirge]

that's gotta be a GameStop

eh, they deserve to go outta business, just sayin

[void void]

wtf are these idiots doing

[tired heath]

GameStop, does such thing still exists in 2020?

i c

Well I just remember, we also have some GameShop left in the shopping center but it was knda overpriced

[void void]

they should register as a charity then

[ornate spindle]

do people still do the waiting outside a store for midnight video game releases?

[void void]

i don't think any games do that anymore

[slim nymph]

yeah gs has lost a lot of relevance. i cant ever buy a game on disk anymore

and gs doesnt sell digital codes for most games so i cant even give them business

i do own my game lol

[ornate spindle]

iirc the last game I bought in store was gta 5 for the xbox 360

[slim nymph]

what you think that disk is? its a license

[tired heath]

The only none digital game I own is Mario Maker two, since I was to stupid to understand that Nindento is splitting up hardware games vs. digital game versions

[slim nymph]

a license that you are more likely to lose than a digital one

oh you had a kid over for the weekend and they broke your disk? sorry gotta buy a new license

[slate verge]

how to set worldborder to circular radius?

[tired heath]

@slate verge plugin only

no vanilla

[slim nymph]

so convenient to have to get up to switch games 😛

ive had my account for like 16 years

i dont think thats a realistic risk

unless your a shitbag i guess

dont be a shitbag

[void void]

my ethics is buy the game, and then pirate it as a backup

[tired heath]

@spare venture most hardware based games today still need files from the servers or online access

they can do it all the time

[slim nymph]

contact support

[waxen panther]

Don’t forget your password

[slim nymph]

use 2fa (and not SMS)

[void void]

what if the company dies

[slim nymph]

oh stop using sony 😛

[waxen panther]

That’s cuz Sony are shit

[slim nymph]

your gonna die before sony or ms dies

[waxen panther]

I’ve had nothing but bad experiences with Sony support

Steam / Xbox support have been great though

[tired heath]

I bet sony can remote brick your playstation if they want

😄

[slim nymph]

does sony not have 2fa?

[void void]

only game i play multiplayer is minecraft, rest i'd rather buy them and then have a pirated backup

well thats console

[slim nymph]

i like multiplayer games, so i prefer xbox since community just feels overall better

better games is subjective ;P

[void void]

i like minecraft cos it has the weirdest community

[quasi valley]

I've never had a PS and I agree lol

but still, pc gang

[void void]

pcmasterrace

[waxen panther]

If I had to choose I’d play on Xbox just because I hate Sony. But yeah, pc all the way

[slim nymph]

i prefer consoles because 1) I dont have windows, 2) i tend to try to code while playing, so consoles force me to take a break

[waxen panther]

Lmfao get ready for TLOU2

[void void]

for me, controllers are just really hard to use

[slim nymph]

how

[quasi valley]

I dont like playing everything with controllers (except racing or similar)

[void void]

my finger coordiantion is bad

[slim nymph]

for complex games like ark i understand

lot of ark players use keyboard on console

mainly for chat and inventory though

[waxen panther]

I find the Dualshocks stick layout hard to use, the switch / Xbox design is pretty comfortable for me though

Not that I’d use it for a FPS

[slim nymph]

if theyd just give better inventory management tools

[void void]

wtf my parrot pooped on my wall, how did that happen

[slim nymph]

though as much as i loved ark, its a battle with how pissed at it I am/was lol

bought the fucking expansion and quit before it came out

its a shitty game when it comes to casual play

you have to play it hardcore or dont play at all

[void void]

i don't understand parrot poop physics

[slim nymph]

if you dont login for 3 days, your builds will fall apart if it uses wood

i liked ark for building

[slim nymph]

lik why the hell does build material have to impact derelict

and also it requires you to actually LOAD the chunks to make it not go derelict. if you have an outpost far from main HQ, and dont visit it regularly, bye bye

ark is really designed for private servers that you can turn derelict off

but i do enjoy the cut throat risk of the game

even as a seasoned vet playe,r if you fuck up, you can lose

well on non OneX yeah

on X its ok

prob shit there then

its a very intensive game lol

maybe series X will finally run it smooth

but another issue with ark is the game bugs, it sucks when you lose your shit and it wasnt your fault

oh flying over that volcano? perfect time to crash

now every piece of end game equipment you was wearing that took months to obtain is gone

[void void]

maybe thats like an anticheat

ur too good, so it kills you

i have that problem on a server i play on, can't fly over the void without special mods and being very careful

[slim nymph]

but what really killed it for us was the server we was playing on wanted to "reset map" because they thought that old maps bug out, even though our server wasnt doing too bad. and the new server had some hardware problem that introduced a reallllllly nasty race condition bug...

the bug caused your character to become disassociated to your identity

so you login to create a character screen and see your body laying on ground

[void void]

damn thats a bad bug

[slim nymph]

this happened to me and my clan literally a day after building the ultimate final boss of the game

losing our titles

we got hit the most, i lost mine like 7 times, so much that the staff stopped restoring our data

and even those restores werent 100%, didnt get the marker that I defeated the final boss back

i had to fight for the damn owner to put damn effort into resolving it

they just told us to suck it up and hope it stops after a while

eventually he finally listens to me and asks host to move to new hardware after they kept telling me it cant be hardware

guess what? it stopped happening

[void void]

that hardware must've been really messed up

[slim nymph]

then like a month later they held a corrupt poll to full wipe the entire network

[void void]

wat

.optimize

[limber knot]

https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/guide-server-optimization⚡.283181/

[slim nymph]

where they had the entire staff team bandwagon on it, and changed the rules of polls requiring 75% vote to just 50% vote

well i was playing ark as a break lol, kinda counter productive to add more responsibility 😛

I now play ESO when MC isnt taking up all my time lol. havent played it really in over a month now though 😦

least i can play that w/o my data being wiped for being logged off for a while

worst case is kicked from guilds

[tired heath]

Still searching for some nice short name to refactor my getInstance() call with 😛

[slim nymph]

how about getInstance()

[cosmic raft]

good lord

[tired heath]

It looks ugly

😄

[cosmic raft]

everyone is sold out of Xbox and PS4 controllers

@tired heath just get :)

[tired heath]

But if I have another get in the class

[slim nymph]

i was gonna say "sold out or looted" but forgot your not in murica of rawr

[fallen oracle]

Gotta get a controller for my PC so I can play MCD with it

Minecraft Dungeons

[void void]

i think i have about 1 controller in my house

forgot to sell it with the rest of my wii

[cosmic raft]

no I mean stores nearby barty

everyone is sold out

bestbuy, walmart, etc

[void void]

wat

[slim nymph]

its odd, are people breaking controllers due to more use during covid? or non gamer family members succumbing to games? i dont see why the pressure increase, since its not like you have friends coming over to game as much either

[void void]

so that explains why my old wii sold so quickly and for £100

[fallen oracle]

I mean, I wanted to buy a Nintendo Switch but they were sold out everywhere.

Wanted to try Animal Crossing

[void void]

selling 1 wii controller for $50! good condition!

[quasi valley]

still in stock for us

[fallen oracle]

I got a Wii Fit

[void void]

gotta milk that cow

[fallen oracle]

I've been playing guitar hero in bed. Helps pass the time.

[quasi valley]

I'd steal an old 360 controller off my brother otherwise lmao

[fallen oracle]

I got 2 guitars and a drum set. Come over Barty, we'll party

We can get city in the drums

[cosmic raft]

this is annoying

[fallen oracle]

And simple on the mic

[cosmic raft]

nobody has controllers

-.-

[fallen oracle]

I have 2 3 4 5, and like 3 others

World tour

[quasi valley]

import them from germany

[fallen oracle]

Metalliac

[cosmic raft]

lmao

[void void]

maybe most people are now playing games to pass the time

[fallen oracle]

Have you ever seen clip play Rock Band on stream?

The dude is a beast.

He can do all songs expert

[void void]

just fix it

that sounds like an alignment issue

[minor badge]

@void void https://github.com/rubocop-hq/rubocop/issues/8091

fucking aids

master/slave all over again smh

[waxen panther]

reminds me of the vscode thing

[quasi valley]

waddafuq

[waxen panther]

They put a santa hat on the options cog and people went fucking mental

[twilit frigate]

hey i just updated my server from 1.12.2 to 1.15.2 and theres a ton of particle bugs anyone know how to fix

is it the bukkit.yml file?

[waxen panther]

[cunning raft]

discord does have captchas sometimes

[waxen panther]

All software is political

thats my new status

[void void]

jesus christ

[minor badge]

i dont disagree w that, but i disagree it should matter

imagine your iq being so thru the floor u think the name of a library will matter at fucking all

[void void]

wat

[waxen panther]

[void void]

i wonder how smart my parrot is

[cunning raft]

oh my fuck i just read into the context

[void void]

compared to some people

[minor badge]

sure it is viper

[cunning raft]

that rubocop issue is aids

holy fuck

[waxen panther]

it's a ruby linter

[cunning raft]

[minor badge]

i mean, if it was the name of a software for like anarchists, stupid name perhaps, but other than that it doesnt matter at all lol

[tame pendant]

https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/360047959431-Role-bassed-permission-for-private-messages-and-user-override?page=1#community_comment_360010520111

[void void]

anyway so

does not matter what you name your project

[cunning raft]

holy fuck

the person complaining

[void void]

one day it'll offend ore or more people

[cunning raft]

is a google employee

[minor badge]

not for long lol

[void void]

i imagine someone hops here and demands devs to rename Paper to something else because Paper is white

or something something

[waxen panther]

wtf paper is white

[void void]

...ridiculous like that

[waxen panther]

unreal

[cunning raft]

if google fired for that they'd get sued and BLM would make a hashtag for google

bad pr

[void void]

fucking hell

[cunning raft]

An association with the cops will cause harm to and otherwise marginalise potential contributors.
if people think like this, i don't want their code

[void void]

they must be one of those people where everything reminds them of something bad

[worn ember]

plz rename blackspigot to whitespigot

[void void]

hey wifispy i know you're here

[waxen panther]

[void void]

do the rename right now or otherwise we see u don't care about BLM

wacist pig

[cunning raft]

somebody stole all the account names

lmao wtf

[worn ember]

this is also really funny

[waxen panther]

I love BS's superiority complex

and how they act like they're just doing the right thing

[worn ember]

ikr

[waxen panther]

Their owners must be quite something

[minor badge]

somebody is autistic smh

[void void]

i wanna check out what protection they're doing

[cunning raft]

https://github.com/rails/rails/pull/33681

[waxen panther]

They'll know because of all the malware they put into the plugins they host!!

[minor badge]

lmfao

[waxen panther]

this PR must be a joke

surely

[cunning raft]

NOPE

[worn ember]

i mean, i did get a plugin from there cuz i wanted to test if my addition worked but i dont wanna spend 15$ just for testing purposes for a free plugin

[waxen panther]

the other one, maybe but this?

come on

[minor badge]

its merged so

[cunning raft]

context doesn't matter

[void void]

wat they actually merged that

damn i can't imagine how hard it is to live when everything offends you

[waxen panther]

allowlisted sounds stupid

[void void]

and permitted as well

i bet someone will start a war over permitted

[worn ember]

reminds me of the master slave terminology in python

that completely renamed

[minor badge]

how

how is permitted offensive

[void void]

how is whitelisted offensive

[viscid belfry]

wats goin on in here

[cunning raft]

fucking ruby developers

[void void]

we're mocking idiots

[olive garden]

oh, is it that spigotmc thread?

can someone plz link?

[waxen panther]

wut

[void void]

we're talking about the safe renamings of projects cos some people get offended

oh, is it that spigotmc thread?

nah

https://github.com/rubocop-hq/rubocop/issues/8091

3/4 people disliked that

? xD

[minor badge]

hes made uncomfortable to know his company uses a software using the word "cop" in its title

[cunning raft]

ahahaha

this guy

[ornate spindle]

been reading through that thread, it reminds me of yet another ruby project https://github.com/opal/opal/issues/941

[olive garden]

guys, I am still waiting for that SpigotMC thread link

[void void]

i get these people have good intentions, but yikes

[olive garden]

mikro, repay your debt by linking me

[worn ember]

man, why are people always so butthurt

[void void]

what thread

[minor badge]

https://owo.whats-th.is/WF1nbrD.png

[ornate spindle]

yeah that one was intense

[waxen panther]

excluding someone from OSS is stupid lol

they can just make a new account?

[cunning raft]

LMFAO

[waxen panther]

[cunning raft]

(on the rubocop one)

[void void]

wtf

[olive garden]

got it: https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/can-we-please-now-stop-calling-it-a-black-white-list.442806/

[void void]

ah that

[ashen cliff]

https://github.com/torvalds/linux/pull/156

[void void]

wtf

[waxen panther]

spigotmcs forum would be so much better if there was a thumbs down

Optimistic is pretty much the equiv but still

[pulsar wigeon]

you know what's racist

assigning virtues to colors

[void void]

are you saying no coloured discord roles

[ashen cliff]

He just dislikes being purple.

[pulsar wigeon]

i mean, specifically virtues related to human race, ethnicity, color, etc

[void void]

ah few

[pulsar wigeon]

assigning other sorts of virtues to colors is probably stupid for other reasons, but maybe not racist

[worn ember]

the people relating white/blacklist with being racist are the ones being racist lmao

[void void]

can't have meh discord colours disappearing

[worn ember]

change my mind

[pulsar wigeon]

that's what i just said

[worn ember]

yes but ur just half a wizard

[void void]

i don't think we understood what you said

[worn ember]

sue me

[ornate spindle]

next thing we know, people are ushering companies like discord to remove light mode and only have dark mode

[ashen cliff]

You know they would do it.

[void void]

not the worst thing to happen

[worn ember]

i wouldnt mind

[waxen panther]

No, discord cannot have a light or a dark mode

only coloured modes.

[void void]

i wonder what kinds of discussions management at companys have when they get hit with this kind of stuff

[ashen cliff]

Just get 10 people to cry about how <website> is <aggression here> and they will remove it's embed.
Thanks Discord.

[olive garden]

@worn ember your name is offensive

please change it

[void void]

lmao

[ashen cliff]

Try with PH for example.

They got yeeted a couple of days ago.

[void void]

PH as in that XXX site?

[ashen cliff]

Yeah.

[void void]

mfw

[worn ember]

who got yeeted?

[olive garden]

s\that\the

[worn ember]

i mean racism is bad, but theres always people overdoing it

[ashen cliff]

I just want to watch my ad infested gun content on PH.

[worn ember]

discord is opressing me!

[ashen cliff]

I stopped counting.

Legit, we debugging something today, send the last DM, 3 hours later he asks me why I didn't respond.
Thanks Discord.

[waxen panther]

Not sure if its just europes voice servers but vc's have been getting worse and worse lately

I vc with my friend every night and we have to change servers at least a few times a week

they just fail to connect or have 1 bar

actual

[ashen cliff]

https://posili.me/i/2020-06-07_21-03-33.png

Can relate.

[worn ember]

discord vc has been horrible

i just use teams now tbh

its 10x better and the quality is just so much better

[waxen panther]

Yeah, discord is just more convenient and the overlay is nice when in game

[void void]

saw this on pixelplace a while ago

[olive garden]

.g popbob

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTublAqgxjI -- 2b2t - Popbob's Escape Plan - YouTube: "Oct 2, 2019 ... On 2b2t.org, Minecraft's most infamous anarchy server; I show you a build that popbob used to quickly escape after a grief. Special..."

[waxen panther]

[ashen cliff]

.g Brazil

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazil -- Brazil - Wikipedia: "Brazil officially the Federative Republic of Brazil is the largest country in both South America and Latin America. At 8.5 million square kilometers..."

[void void]

wait you don't know who popbob is

[waxen panther]

no

i dont

2b2t is stupid

[slender jay]

i didnt know until yesterday

[void void]

i like 2b

[slender jay]

someone started spamming in here about him

[void void]

lots of weird geniuses there

[slender jay]

2b2t and the word genius dont go well together

[void void]

well there are some idiots there

[half wing]

Does 2b2t run on Paper

[void void]

obviously, but it attracts some of the smartest people i've ever talked to

yes

[half wing]

Lol

[waxen panther]

i think all anarchy servers are stupid so

[golden gust]

nou

[waxen panther]

love u2

[void void]

you can have your own opinion

unsuprisingly, a lot of people from there are banned here

[olive garden]

lol

why?

are they so smart that they are considered trolls?

[void void]

you have no idea

[void void]

yeah its not for everyone

for me, its just that everything else tends to get boring

[kindred storm]

anarchy servers are just hack = win

[olive garden]

what can you even do on these servers in a reasonable amount of time?

[waxen panther]

who has the best hacks™️

[void void]

well its not always who has the best

but thats often the case lmao

theres lots of stuff you can do

hack, steal, base hunt, make friends, pvp etc

[unreal quarry]

I ban 4/5 of those actions on my server

Lol

[pulsar wigeon]

make friends confirmed illegal on billy's server

[void void]

wait you ban pvp?

[kindred storm]

when 'hack' is the No.#1 thing you mention, I can already tell it's no good

[cosmic raft]

~limbo uptime

[void void]

Uptime: 18 hours, 17 minutes, 19 seconds

[vernal moth]

Oh shit

Ppl in here discovered hanger

My evil plan is public

[void void]

it was always public lmao

.g minidigger hanger

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://github.com/MiniDigger/Hangar -- MiniDigger/Hangar: Plugin repository, targeted at paper ......: "Plugin repository, targeted at paper plugins. Star 0. Watch. master. View more branches. Latest commit by MiniDigger 4 months ago. View code Jump to..."

[vernal moth]

Leave suggestions here

https://github.com/MiniDigger/Hangar/issues/1

[olive garden]

shameless self plug /s

[vernal moth]

This is what am trying to work on till spigot releases a 1.16 build

[waxen panther]

I'll contribute once I'm comfortable with Vue

[void void]

whats vue?

[vernal moth]

For now it's prolly way easier to contribute ideas or designs and shit

[waxen panther]

the js framework it's using @ nirvana

[vernal moth]

Even I am not comfortable with the stack yet and still playing around

[void void]

ah ok

[quasi valley]

vue is great

[waxen panther]

I've done a lot of react and I've made a few repos for packages so I'm quite comfortable with this kinda thing ^^

[vernal moth]

Vue is the js framework am using, nuxt is the application framework, UI is done using buefy (balmer for Vue) and backend is spring boot

The idea is to have a place, that's better than the forums, to post paper plugins to stop having to rely on spigot so much

[fallen oracle]

Yay Mini!

I'm excited for this.

[potent fossil]

morning

[vernal moth]

And if we make something that doesn't suck, maybe paper can offically adopt it

[potent fossil]

What are you excited for

[waxen panther]

Papers lack of a good repo is whats holding me and I'd assume a lot of other people from fully moving to paper-api

[vernal moth]

Death to spigot, basically

[waxen panther]

[potent fossil]

Weren't we tossing that idea around quite a while ago mini?

[fallen oracle]

So is that repo not for the site itself?

[vernal moth]

So nothing new simple ^^

Yes, didn't you give it the name?

[potent fossil]

I'll contribute got a discord yet?

I think so lmao

Then we didn't nothing

[quasi valley]

paper is its discord

[vernal moth]

Yes 😂

[quasi valley]

:aaa:

[potent fossil]

True

[fallen oracle]

Oh shit

[vernal moth]

I mean, we could use my discord, not as crowded so discussion doesn't get lost

[fallen oracle]

The front-end is in the source

Okay interesting

[vernal moth]

This isn't a offical paper project anyways

[waxen panther]

can i get a invite

[potent fossil]

I just woke up I'll be back to talk more

[fallen oracle]

I already started on a site and I am considering wiping it to get rid of tailwind

[potent fossil]

If you make a new disc Inv me

[fallen oracle]

It's a yikes

[waxen panther]

not a fan of css frameworks personally

but thats probably just because im a masochist and like writing my own

for what it is, tailwind isn't bad though

[quasi valley]

just all like our comments about not having premium or obfuscated resources k thx bai

[fallen oracle]

Brocco I might hit you up at some point in time then

If you like to style stuff

[waxen panther]

[fallen oracle]

Tho for my sake I might want to use a framework as a placeholder.

[waxen panther]

for sure, I would show you my site but it's down while I get my api working :')

Yea, thats why i usually do until the site actually works

then go back and make it all pretty

[fallen oracle]

I'm working on something super cool, I'll show you it later tonight.

[waxen panther]

sounds good

[vernal moth]

Added a discord link to the readme

[vernal moth]

@potent fossil I can't invite you since you have DMs disabled you dumfuk

[worn ember]

haha dum pimple

[potent fossil]

oh lol

[twin lagoon]

mini wtf you never told me you had a discord server

[pulsar wigeon]

mini advertising here smh

🔨

[potent fossil]

now i cant friend him bc his fucking dms are off too

[quasi valley]

haha dum pimple

[potent fossil]

ok @vernal moth do it now u fuk

also send me friend req while ur at it

[void void]

ah yes PlotSquared, also known as exception generator

sec

https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/f3974de1b9bd4f8d9d2f5ffcbdfe20c1

[vernal moth]

Wiz, in my defence, I tried to stop the discussion here and move it elsewhere ^^

[minor badge]

I think he intended for a convo to start then advertise to have it gone!

[vernal moth]

Kenny brought up hangar!

I just replied to hours later ^^

[void void]

wtf city fix pls, my log file is 150mb already

[worn ember]

Plot² more PlotExponentialException amirite

[ornate spindle]

lol that's a small log file

[worn ember]

is this Yive from Yives mirror

[void void]

[ornate spindle]

https://i.yive.dev/kaSps9uwiqQRCE1h.png

[quasi valley]

did you have fawe AND p2 installed?

[worn ember]

are you downloading movies in .log format?

i bet VLC could still play it

[unreal quarry]

nah, thats from via, kenny

[ornate spindle]

it's a creative server, it runs out of UUIDs for coreprotect entries

[unreal quarry]

runs away

[worn ember]

[quasi valley]

smh

[void void]

how can you run out of uuids

[quasi valley]

we don't throw errors, we silently break things!

[void void]

you'd be suprised how often i have to do that

[worn ember]

public void onBreak{ dont();}

[ornate spindle]

oh nvm just realised it's libsdisguises, I probably broke something in our jar which broke that plugin

[void void]

usually when i do somethign like that, it'll just hang on the broken thing

[golden gust]

Update

I made PlugnClassLoader return some useful info

(for DED)

wait, maybe is misread the exception?

yea, I did

dum

[viscid belfry]

@worn ember
try{/logic/}catch(exception e) { e.hideStackTrace();}

[worn ember]

[viscid belfry]

if (e != null) continue;

[tired heath]

Anyone wanna boost hes plugin/server to get more TPS out of it, here is a simple optimisation trick, just add it and it will boost it automatically

@EventHandler
public void onPlayerMove(PlayerMoveEvent event) {
    Player player = event.getPlayer();
    player.getWorld().playSound(player.getLocation(), Sound.ENTITY_FOX_SCREECH, 10.0f, 0.1f);
}// end onPlayerMove

[viscid belfry]

seems legit

[worn ember]

what does the fox say?

[viscid belfry]

LOL

[worn ember]

thank god its not 28 minutes tho

[void void]

damn

[worn ember]

ah yes ofc hes indian xD

[pulsar wigeon]

uSe GrAdLe

[worn ember]

i already commited to maven ree

[pulsar wigeon]

gIt ReVeRt

[worn ember]

git blame college for making me use maven

[kindred storm]

you should learn to learn without watching a youtube video

[worn ember]

i learn fine without it... just for this case a video explaining shit might be easier

[void void]

omfg

was thinking why the fuck didn't //cfi work in FAWE

https://github.com/IntellectualSites/FastAsyncWorldEdit/blob/75653087b92ff4adc87db5b39644c08ef22470c6/worldedit-core/src/main/java/com/boydti/fawe/command/CFICommand.java

[pulsar wigeon]

mmm yes fawe solutions

not updated? comment out the file

[kindred storm]

they just commented everything out lol

[worn ember]

[void void]

damn fawe is totally broken

or at least the fancy features i installed it for

:/

[worn ember]

did you expect anything else?

[void void]

i expected it work a bit worse than it did in 1.12.2

[worn ember]

at least its not paid right

[granite salmon]

Asyncworldedit works better

[jagged egret]

How would I get https working on a web server only accessible from my local WiFi

[waxen panther]

https on localhost / local ip?

it's a pretty well covered subject just google it

[void void]

asyncworldedit does not do cfi

nor image brush

[void void]

well neither does fawe at this point, lol

How would I get https working on a web server only accessible from my local WiFi
@jagged egret define "working"

your q is very ambiguous

[mental dragon]

ello

[olive garden]

manually install a certificate into all of your machines

[worn ember]

why would you need https on a local network tho

[mental dragon]

tru

[olive garden]

local Wifi networks are what script kiddies can "hack"

source: I can do it

protection: don't use WEP and use a secure password for the wifi

[limber knot]

also don't use WPA, lol

[olive garden]

.g kali wpa crack

[limber knot]

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[worn ember]

wpa is ez

[olive garden]

yes, I can also do that

lmao

[worn ember]

wpa2 not so much

[limber knot]

also don't use WPA2-PSK (TKIP)

ideally you want WPA3, lol

[worn ember]

man i use wpa69

[olive garden]

@worn ember your mama so fat she absorbs all Wifi signals and that's how I protect my home wifi

okay, when did I become 10 years old?

[worn ember]

when did you ever stop being 10 years old?

yo mama so fat she takes all your sunlight so you dont grow

[olive garden]

lol

.g spigot random teleport async

[limber knot]

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[olive garden]

good job DED, you are famous

[olive garden]

but shame on you for not giving phoenix a mention

[void void]

.g best spigot developer

[limber knot]

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lmao

[void void]

chickenputty is best spigot dev confirmed

[vernal moth]

Well, ppl have giant tables

Like, I know we have tables at work with tens of millions of entries

Depending what you do, large updates can be nessasary

[cosmic raft]

this will work @spare venture

https://i.imgur.com/32zDahq.jpg

:p

[void void]

shock

shocked

[jagged egret]

@jagged egret define "working"
I need it so that chrome will stop displaying the header bar when I type text on an unsecured website

[void void]

honse

[quasi valley]

Good old French

[limber knot]

i​so​20​13​: yeah you basically need to use a real certificate or add your own custom one to the machines/browser certificate store

[cosmic raft]

$70 something

[tranquil yacht]

What does it mean when there’s a star next to the TPS?

[golden gust]

you're technically over 20TPS

[tame pendant]

tps catchup

[golden gust]

generally down to TPS catchup + computers not being good at maths

[tranquil yacht]

Is over 20 tps bad or good

[golden gust]

you really wanna consult timings for that type of stuff

[tame pendant]

arguably good

[golden gust]

TPS is basically a somewhat bleh metric

[tranquil yacht]

I’m guessing its doing that to essentially re synchronize huh

Nah I’m just wondering, low TPS is expected I’m generating a world with chunkmaster

Nobody’s online

Thanks

[gleaming finch]

;(

I was banned from the IntellectualSites discord server

all I did was answer someone's question and ask another

[minor badge]

Nobody here cares. Appeal to the proper channels and keep your drama far, far away from this Discord

[gleaming finch]

will do 👍

[waxen panther]

[minor badge]

catto

[waxen panther]

[worn ember]

[heady spear]

wait wtf grandayy has a medical degree

[void void]

wait what

someones using the voice channel

[twin lagoon]

the guy in voice uses eclipse and in light mode

[pulsar wigeon]

#the-silents

[void void]

wait, he's doing a spigot plugin, not a paper plugin!

hm, should i also stream what i'm doing

wait no bad idea

[ancient bolt]

@slim nymph thanks, you know I don't drink booze though right lol

I drank some cider earlier and barely got through the 4 bottles because it was too dry

[slim nymph]

lol

[ancient bolt]

4 cans* not bottles

im gonna play a lot of jedi: fallen order today

[void void]

"Fix enchantment costs"

[pulsar wigeon]

looks like breaking behavior tbh

[void void]

i never though someone could get something like that wrong

[rough swift]

Unsure if this is the correct channel to being unrelated to anything or not but is someone able to give me a great staff monitoring plugin to have a look at? I'm looking for something that Logs /warns /kicks /ban /tempban /ipban as well as /history and /dupeip on a player for my server. If this is the wrong place please let me know where to move too. :)

I'm like super new to the whole 'run a server'.

lmao

[twin lagoon]

.g LiteBans

[limber knot]

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[twin lagoon]

just use that

has /staffhistory and /history

i mean it does what he's asking for

¯_(ツ)_/¯

litebans is the go to solution

[rough swift]

thanks both of you ill look in logs and look at the plugin too :)

cheers guys :)

[fallen oracle]

lb pps

Alrighty so the random tp works, but uh

[fallen oracle]

It's really random

I suppose we should let people specify the bounds, eh?

No I mean the server owner

[waxen panther]

cached random

[fallen oracle]

Oh I know how to test this

I'll set the world border size smaller

[fallen oracle]

Mr funny dude over here

[waxen panther]

I cannot stop laughing

[tired heath]

Actually the player respawn event triggers before the respawn, if you wanna manipulate the player object after respawn, what is the best practice. Like setting a sheduler for 1 server tick within the event call?

[fallen oracle]

It seems to work for the most part.

[tired heath]

I mean that does the job for me, but is it also the best way to solve that

[waxen panther]

nice username

[golden gust]

there is a post respawn event iirc

[fallen oracle]

Not seeing tps drop either

I think all that's left is let them specify the bounds in the config and then make checks to ensure it's a safe teleport.

But it already teleports async and if teleporting async gets the chunk async, we're good.

It's a randomtp plugin

They were complaining in #paper-help that there wasn't a decent random tp plugin utilizing paperlib

So I made one

Going to put this on Hangar whenever that's ready.

[proud viper]

Do you recommend a host for a network? please

u_u

nodecraft is so expensive

[waxen panther]

Robo's plugin uses Paperlib

[warm anchor]

OVH

[twin lagoon]

considering nodecraft is expensive

OVH isn't an option

nor is Hetzner

[warm anchor]

Lmao

[twin lagoon]

probably wanted a shared hosting

see dedicatedmc.io or slothhost

[warm anchor]

Summer host

[twin lagoon]

or whatever is hip on r/admincraft

.g r/admincraft hosting discussion thread 2020

[limber knot]

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[warm anchor]

Sir I have a budget of $5 a month can you suggest a good host?

Preferably with 64 GB RAM /s

[proud viper]

20bucks for 2gb ram is a joke

xD

[tired heath]

5 $ for 64 GB

sure why not

[void void]

good luck finding out a host with 64gb ram for only 5 dollars

[waxen panther]

admincraft

[kindred storm]

minehut

[unreal quarry]

yeah, kinda like hookers vs wife

runs away

[waxen panther]

[fallen oracle]

What all is deemed necessary in a random tp plugin? I assume not much. Async teleporting. Ability to specify the bounds in the config?

[fallow peak]

command cooldown*

[fallen oracle]

Ooo yeah that's a good one.

[warm anchor]

Also check landing zone like if it’s lava or not

[unreal quarry]

able to toggle safe teleports. let them have a truly random experience. lava pit? sure. middle of the ocean? why not. ^_^

[warm anchor]

XDdd

[fallen oracle]

In a wall? Sure.

[golden gust]

region protections

[warm anchor]

Make it pay to use too. It’s gonna be fun if you wanna go all out lol

[waxen panther]

Under bedrock

[fallen oracle]

Yeah I will need to come up with a way to deem a teleport safe or not

[golden gust]

Well, that's where part of the problems come into play

[warm anchor]

Maybe like generate a chicken at the target location and see if it dies?

[golden gust]

You either start hooking into individual plugins, or, start calling your own events to try to mock stuff so that plugins can come and say "nope"

[fallen oracle]

What do you think is the better option? I was going to make it latest MC version only to make it easier.

[golden gust]

the problem is that both routes have their lackluster moments

[unreal quarry]

one of the plugins i made cheated. it would set the world spawn to random cords, and teleport them to it, then reset world spawn back to normal. let the system handle the hard work for safety checks 😛

[golden gust]

we really need a vault type plugin for region protections...

[waxen panther]

that'd be nice

[fallen oracle]

Mhmm

[waxen panther]

Vault2 wen

[fallen oracle]

I'll start with safe teleport options and cooldowns and bounds first.

[unreal quarry]

easy universal claim checker: fire a fake BlockBreakEvent and check if its cancelled (RIP block loggers, though)

[fallen oracle]

Yeah but that might actually work.

I might be able to just see how we deem a teleport safe in Essentials.

[unreal quarry]

you can fix the block loggers if you cancel the fake event yourself in HIGHEST priority, since those listen on MONITOR

might be enough

just hope theres no claim plugins out there listening on HIGHEST, too

[fallen oracle]

So, first make sure its a safe teleport, if it is, check to see if it does region checking, if it does, throw a fake break event, if it's cancelled, deny the tp else tp

Okay but when you fire a block break event do I have to make a listener for it or can I just set the priority or something

[cosmic raft]

yay

food ordered

[unreal quarry]

and do little enderman warp sounds at to/from locations, for added jazz

[cosmic raft]

Indian food tonight

[waxen panther]

hrnnggg

dont make me hungry

[cosmic raft]

garlic naan and chicken-curry

[fallen oracle]

Ill implement some of this after I make dinner

[waxen panther]

all i have to eat in my room are candy canes

[fallen oracle]

Honestly can probably just pull this class from EssX https://github.com/EssentialsX/Essentials/blob/2.x/Essentials/src/com/earth2me/essentials/utils/LocationUtil.java

I can have Josh look it over to make sure everything is still solid. He's been working a lot with teleports and locations recently.

[unreal quarry]

it's not theft if you delete the license/header

runs away

[fallen oracle]

I didn't plan to remove it lol. Just make this an EssentialsXTPsGoneWild

[unreal quarry]

EpicEssentialsXTPsGoneWildReloaded

[fallen oracle]

Ofc

So I can use that and generate a location within the bounds that is set in the config.

Mhmm

Especially since you can freely use Unicode in the Lang files as of this morning.

#426460619277991936

Josh has like 4 nice PRs that should be merged before 2.18 and it will go zoom

[waxen panther]

[slim nymph]

ffs, just as i fix the map sepia filter thing, one of my servers is hit by it lol

[cosmic raft]

huh?

[slim nymph]

sepia filter loading chunks

for treasure maps

[worn ember]

@fallen oracle whats the video supposed to show?

am confusion

[waxen panther]

him rtp'ing

[worn ember]

just use my rtp api

say what you want but it works like a charm

0 chance of death (if ur lucky)

i think it works kinda similar

[void void]

wait

whats rtp in minecraft

[worn ember]

random teleport

[void void]

ah that

[worn ember]

sniped

[warm anchor]

Just run vanilla

Have them walk

[void void]

then disable anticheat

lmao

[worn ember]

i like to have more than 3tps

[waxen panther]

[void void]

you can have less that 3tps easily with anticheat

[warm anchor]

Just get their social security number and physical address before you whitelist them in /s

[worn ember]

$2 for every block you break

[void void]

100$ for everytime you talk

[warm anchor]

Not joke if you sell /broadcast people will actually buy it 😂

[void void]

well why wouldn't they

is that not common

[warm anchor]

Not sure. The only server I ever played on is Aikar’s empire and my own lol not very well versed on what people sells

[void void]

damn you've played less servers than me

and i can count ones i've played on one hand

[fallen oracle]

Barty, this one is my submission for Hangar.

[warm anchor]

@crystal otter isn’t paper on discovery? You can just type in paper and join without an invite

[slim nymph]

our invite code is kinda easy to remember

you know, /papermc

[fallen oracle]

Lol

[slim nymph]

leaf prob has it bookmarked

what?

[fallen oracle]

30 boosts

[slim nymph]

oh

[warm anchor]

Paper is verified so they are fine lol

Verified get it by default iirc

[fallen oracle]

Correct.

[static badge]

you don't need a bookmark

[void void]

wat we only got 6 boosts

[static badge]

you just use papermc as the invite

[pulsar wigeon]

you literally just click the +, click join, type papermc

[warm anchor]

Pro has spoken up

[fallen oracle]

It's funny Barty says that because there are some people who solely provide 30 boosts for their server.

I think we have like 34 right now.

Yeah that's what I do

Ahh yeah

[crystal otter]

a button is still better

@warm anchor

discord is a laggy piece of shit and every interaction that isn't just scrolling around is painfully slow

[fallen oracle]

I have no plans to

[crystal otter]

is it also laggy garbage built on a browser

[fallen oracle]

Sorry, the most I can do is a WildTP plugin

[cunning raft]

electron

[fallen oracle]

It doesn't actually look like they have repos for their actually stuff

Just stuff they use to build

Why do they have a link called discord bots on their website?

Oh yeah?

[neon dagger]

Riot.im is pretty OK, it's open source too. They just need to smooth out that learning curve, and add voice chat.

[fallen oracle]

Well, Discord is so widely used, don't really see a reason to change it.

[golden gust]

then we'll all go back to IRC and be happy

irc.papermc.io!

runs

[fallen oracle]

That could be years tho

[warm anchor]

every platform does

no one lives forever

[worthy zenith]

tell that to irc

[warm anchor]

I mean no platform truly dies. There are always loyal core groups.

[pulsar wigeon]

yea i mean plenty of people still use aim

[tired heath]

What is actually the Discord discussion the whole day, what is the prob with it, just curious

because?

[warm anchor]

it runs pretty badly on old systems.

your account has no rights.

They can remove it anytime they wish

no way to remove older chat log without removing entire account or break theri tos with a userbot that delete message 1 by 1

[fallen oracle]

Is the reason people don't like it is because it's electron based?

[warm anchor]

you get instant support if you are verfied /s

[pulsar wigeon]

run by literal 12 year olds...

and furries

[crystal otter]

this piece of software, if left unchecked, will attempt to use up to 6 times the cpu power my 2 browsers that I am using at the same time can

even if just minimized in the background

[lean kiln]

I still have such a channel

[tired heath]

I mean they run the main service for free and is kinda voice an video traffice running over their servers, is not like it is piece of cake. And I do not see any ad here so far

[warm anchor]

also the platform wasnt designed for complicated perms

[crystal otter]

they will go bankrupt eventually

[warm anchor]

it breaks once you reach 100+ roles with complicated setup

[crystal otter]

the running costs far exceed the amount of money coming in

from the platform itself

what is keeping this shitshow afloat is investors and grants

[void void]

actually reporting is one of the strangest parts of discord

[pulsar wigeon]

reporting is nonexistant

[void void]

you report someone, its almost guarranteed that their account will be gone

[warm anchor]

true if the issue was doxxing

[crystal otter]

unless it's about anti-furry commentary

[pulsar wigeon]

you have to manually enable dev mode and copy a bunch of user/message ids and email/fill out a form on their site with it

[void void]

even without any kind of proof

[warm anchor]

they just delete account

[crystal otter]

that shit gets accounts baleeted right out of the water

[pulsar wigeon]

i've reported several things that were definitely ban worthy and nothing came of it

didn't even get a response from my support tickets

[warm anchor]

They are "overloaded" as they said coz of this corona shit

[pulsar wigeon]

this was a year ago

[warm anchor]

their legal team was just 1 person

no no no

Discord is very advanced

they have a bot monitoring it

/s

[crystal otter]

windows fucknugget talking here, but don't they keep executable code in like the appdata directory where anyone can modify it?

on the discord client, I mean

updates and shit are ran from there

[void void]

you can modify it all you like, just ToS

[pulsar wigeon]

yes lmao

[void void]

so basically you can't

[fallen oracle]

I wish you could modify the install directory.

[crystal otter]

there was some malware floating around at one point that just modified the updater

[pulsar wigeon]

yea the entire install is entirely unprotected and user-run

[void void]

sometimes discord breaks and does that as well

[lean kiln]

just like zoom xD

[warm anchor]

it is given out to everyone yes. That's how spawn bot get the userlist from big server

[void void]

my old phone has that, can see everything

[crystal otter]

discord also has the most fragile networking I have ever seen

[warm anchor]

even hidden channel is not truly hidden either

[tired heath]

Discord has it's problems but still for a service that offers most essential features for free and let you implement hooks via bots also for free to do the rest, running on linux, mac, mobile, window, I can't be too bad about some issues

[crystal otter]

any amount of network resources getting clogged will utterly fucking break it to shit

[worn ember]

im just waiting for that 5 year old electron bug to be fixed

[lean kiln]

It's only on every platform bc its electron garbage

[pulsar wigeon]

"some issues" lmao

[void void]

i'm waiting for them to disable ctrl shift i

[pulsar wigeon]

i'd be ok if it was some minor shit

but holy fuck everything is completely broken

[crystal otter]

i usually steer clear of general but this conversation is pretty nice for a change

[pulsar wigeon]

literally even sending messages doesn't work at least 3 days a month

[crystal otter]

everywhere else I bring these things up touchy kids get their emotions hurt and go "do it better urself"

[pulsar wigeon]

the most basic fucking functionality from a chat app

[warm anchor]

I mean they are hiring wizjany. Make discord great again

[crystal otter]

"if it's so bad make a better one"

[worn ember]

true

[void void]

i know someone making a better discord

[lean kiln]

"free"

[crystal otter]

well, don't worry

[worn ember]

i pay for it so i should get 100% success rate on my messages smh

[tired heath]

well I do not need any premium feature for a server, the vanity url I do it via domain redirect. I mean I don't care

[crystal otter]

given a few years the platform will almost inevitably die and go bankrupt

[void void]

come on trispeak, fuck this platform

[crystal otter]

they still haven't made any returns for their investors

[warm anchor]

they plan to push it out to everyone barty

[crystal otter]

in fact they are several orders of magnitude in the red

[warm anchor]

just soon ™️

[pulsar wigeon]

do you have sources on that btw

they're not public right?

so no quarterly prospectus or shit?

[fallen oracle]

You can buy a dev license, barty.

[crystal otter]

me? there was something something on their blog somewhere and i have a vague memory of reading some report about it

[warm anchor]

it will probably be tie to how well your server obey the Discord TOS

and how much activities your server do have

[worn ember]

ngl teams is pretty nice, shame its oriented at companies and not epic gamers like myself

[crystal otter]

overall my memory is super vague so I can't really point any fingers

but it was like 10/10 easy to find so i'm sure you can find it with a few google searches

[void void]

i've found teams to be really slow

[crystal otter]

and it seemed accurate and trustworthy from what i remember

[worn ember]

[void void]

.g discord fuckign inversters

[worn ember]

well their video calls are very robust even when you're in a call with like 30-40 people

[void void]

what