plus you have to consider that jit optimizations for reflection will kick in if it's a hotspot and that's going to beat most by-hand optimization
#general
limber knotBOT
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hex is back with his infinite wisdom
blazing nebula
hmm idk but in my testing it's been much faster for me, it seems like a lot of plugins could benefit from it as it has surely saved me resources
limber knotBOT
also it's got kind of shit readability so if it's for a oneshot invoke it's not worth it imo
well what's your use case and test case because it really does depend on those
blazing nebula
that's pretty accurate, it is pretty unreadable
limber knotBOT
are you using reflection for nms access? i'm not sure what else would be widespread in plugins tbh
blazing nebula
Yeah, a lot of plugins use reflection to access version dependent code
I'm not using it for nms access though, I'm using it to dynamically invoke constructors from my custom item system
limber knotBOT
so basically you have 4 good general methods for this sort of thing and they all have pros and cons
traditional reflection, method handles, explicit lambdametafactory, and asm
blazing nebula
I tried ASM, I got it working but I found it too complicated to continue working with
limber knotBOT
traditional reflection is cumbersome and slow when unoptimized, but jit will inline it pretty intelligently if it's a hotspot and you haven't tried to overoptimize by hand
method handles are fast and imo more readable but i don't know enough about the architecture to say how they're optimized
lambdametafactory is very constrained in its use and difficult to deal with in my experience, though it produces fast code from startup and doesn't need optimization
asm is as fast as you'll get if you use it correctly but it's very hard to use correctly and can get complicated if you let it
blazing nebula
I read this article on those methods which made me land on LambdaMetaFactory- https://www.optaplanner.org/blog/2018/01/09/JavaReflectionButMuchFaster.html
limber knotBOT
if your test case was constructors then how often are these constructors invoked?
blazing nebula
very often, every-time a player's equipment changes
limber knotBOT
if you're comfortable with the reduced readability then it's probably a good solution, but it also will make it harder to expand your framework's functionality
if you've got a good idea of the scope of your use and don't think it's going to change, go for it
i'm skeptical of that blog post because the test case seems simple and i don't think will reflect every use case
blazing nebula
It's hard to get good benchmarking with these things without just trying things in a similiar environment imo
limber knotBOT
if you're curious you could reimplement your functionality using each and profile it both before and after warmup but at that point i doubt it's worth the effort
yeah
reflections have some degree of optimizations everywhere i'd imagine
without it they're kind of garbage so
potent fossil
is City ok
peak dirge
I may be wrong on this front, but method handles attain the best performance when the fields they're in are declared static final
and from that OptaPlanner post, I went with method handles for adding Java 11 Inflater/Deflater ByteBuffer APIs to Velocity
limber knotBOT
i think that's all about if the call site can be in the class's constant pool or not?
i don't really know tbh
peak dirge
perhaps https://shipilev.net/jvm/anatomy-quarks/17-trust-nonstatic-final-fields/ explains that a bit
or more precisely https://shipilev.net/jvm/anatomy-quarks/15-just-in-time-constants/
peak dirge
oh lol
lapis marlin
you spelled developer wrong in your name
peak dirge
I'm the bloke who makes Velocity, RedisBungee, BuycraftX, and NuVotifier
the nickname is a meme
lapis marlin
oh
Well, nice
I was gonna try out Velocity then i found out it uses custom plugins
latent valve
Shit we got a furry in paper discord
https://media.tenor.com/images/97726626ee1193b62cb4477c2338a1dc/tenor.gif
lapis marlin
and i dont use buycraft i use another version lol
latent valve
peak dirge
you want to see my velocity rewrite in skript?
peak dirge
one sec
limber knotBOT
@ those posts, yeah that looks about right
peak dirge
I'll get that goin' for y'all
limber knotBOT
tier 1 should turn those into immediates if possible like bipush, etc
peak dirge
here you go: https://www.velocitypowered.com/skript-rewrite
pulsar wigeon
nice try
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limber knotBOT
oh dear
void void
i was wondering, how far out from spawn do most people build bases in vanilla
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as soon as the area is nice
void void
so how many k?
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indeed
void void
thank god for highways
pulsar wigeon
void void
also do people not use xp bottles normally?
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it's 100% smooth for me
void void
yeh thats looking a little gittery
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JS VM is apparently using 2.7MB if that's what you're on abt
cunning raft
JS 
pulsar wigeon
no one gives a shit about your feelings tho
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one of these days i'll consider trying out hackintosh again but mmmmm
macOS vanilla in that case lol
blazing nebula
okay I thought it stood for JavaScript serialized object notation ngl
potent fossil
viper r u serious
I still don't get why JSON is inside JavaScript section
thats some kazheek shit
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i wonder if my wifi adapter is supported tho, cause i sincerely doubt it
cunning raft
i highly depends
somebody prob made a kext but gl finding it
i just hackentoshed a laptop for airmessage
eth hardwired it
potent fossil
how much of the OS are you locked out of when you hackintosh
cunning raft
wdym?
potent fossil
like what default apps can you no longer use that you would be able to with a legit mac
because i love macos, like honestly fav os
hate the hardware
cunning raft
if you spoof a serial id pretty much nothing
potent fossil
and are there any day-to-day normal things that remind you "oh yea, am on a hackintosh, cant do that"
short yarrow
Same!
short yarrow
I wanna hackintosh too, but I don't know if it's worth the hassel
void void
macos is bad
short yarrow
Why can't apple just macos widely available ๐ฆ
potent fossil
if i could build a custom rig, fully watercooled with tons of ram i would be unstoppable with this OS
cunning raft
macos is bad
thanks for your input
Why can't apple just macos widely available ๐ฆ
profit, they also don't want to "support" anything but their own hardware
jade light
If apple made macOS public they would sell considerably less macs
potent fossil
i mean, meh
spice finch
What was called paperspigot fork with some new features?
limber knotBOT
@spice finch [Auto] We're now known as Paper.
void void
hahaha linux on TOP
potent fossil
yea linux is great as well
i use it daily
mac offers a fantastic desktop experience though
my productivity was never higher
cunning raft
what a fucking mess
potent fossil
KDE
You disgust me
no KDE hate is not boomer alert
KDE itself is boomer alert
you fucking boomer
void void
gnome is bad
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show us ur setup bby
void void
using windows RN
potent fossil
i dont have a linux pc (with a desktop) atm
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heck
potent fossil
its next to me, but it's my plex server
nope I never said LXDE is better
i mean
better than KDE yes
easy
anything is
yeah it's terrible
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@void void https://uwu.whats-th.is/8AffQv5.png
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void void
proxi how did you track that
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wakatime
- horrible python
@void void export https://wakatime.com/settings/account and a horrible script like https://gist.github.com/Proximyst/c8be8b8363013325a4a7d628b543f6f6
would probably be a lot shorter in clojure :>
void void
yeah defo shorter in clj
would use my eztimerformatter library to format the time as well
you know what's better
.g emacs elcord-mode
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void void
๐
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i wonder how many hours it'd take to port craftbukkit to fabric 
knotty nebula
void void
@shut python
POP
BOB
KENZIE IS POPBOB
who?
and why does that matter?
GOOGLE POPBOB !!!!
slender jay
.g popbob
void void
WE NEED TO DESTRUCT THIS GUY
limber knotBOT
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void void
do it somewhere else, not here
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please banne
vagrant niche
beSt aNarCHy serVEr
latent valve
knotty nebula
does anyone know how to colour item names with colour codes?
anvil doesn't seem to work even as op
quartz peak
was building a castle from a tutorial and realized i fucked up. Found out why from when i was counting blocks from the window that it was suppose to be next to. was suppose to be 22 blocks high but was 21. Fuck me...... 
good thing there is suck a thing as a move command
latent valve
Senahi need a plugin for that iirc
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or purpur!
latent valve
^
knotty nebula
I remember doing it a while back without a plugin though, or it might have been the crates plugin, used it for keys
thanks anyways
bright slate
dire turtle
Which plugin do you recommend for multiworld management?
Does paper save the world by itself?
vagrant niche
def not that one fron that city guy
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hyperverse is apparently good
but i use multiverse w no problems and thus no need for hyperverse
golden gust
There are some plugins for letting you do colors in an anvil
but, in general, mc does not support colors in there, and attempting to rename a colored item is wonderful
muted portal
vagrant niche
ur wodnerful
austere ivy
proximyst what's purpur do?
opal steeple
limber knotBOT
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void void
cunning raft
purpur is a fork focused on making every mob in the game sitable
quick pasture
Purpur has some nice additions
unreal quarry
Not just sitable @cunning raft, fully wasd controllable. And that's not the focus. Is 1 out of over 100 patches ^_^
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i am in no way affiliated with purpur, plexnetwork, nor billybadbreath!
golden gust
am just tryna find a way to destroy the beard, once and for all
unreal quarry
</3 cat
vagrant niche
cats r evil
tired heath
Hi
Just a question about event priority. What I understand, it is primary ordering the importance of event calls, so witch one of the registered listeners to a given type will be served first. Except of that, is there any diffrence in the possibility that a event might get called or not called, when it has got lower priority?
For example if the server runs out of ressources to serve the tps.
lusty cosmos
rare herald
Shift storage calls off of server thread - remove lag from slow databases or file system
Yay Dynmap
sage hatch
blazing nebula
Dynmap makes database calls on main thread what?
earnest zephyr
half wasp
potent fossil
graphql is interesting...
thats longer than i thought
a graphql schema
no not really
i mean
it goes in front of a db
and then you query with it, and it queries the db
schema are the tables
basically with this, i can say
getUserProfile(ownerId) {
avatarUrl
}
if i only want avatarUrl, it will give me
if i want more, i specify the fields i want
and graphql goes and figures it out
yea i guess viper
tired heath
When you planed a little plugin with one class and one hour and end up with 7 packages a week later. ๐
potent fossil
sounds like scoping problems
tired heath
Na, I just add a ton of extras
potent fossil
uh
when you start a project, you have a scope
your scope is what you want to achieve...
tired heath
omg I thougt about scope in a code like scope
potent fossil
something is out-of-scope if it's not applicable to what you originally planned
if you never created a scope, that's an issue
but.. uh
lots of MC devs don't
tired heath
Well might be out of scope in that way of "scope"
๐
But, at least it works well now
What's the point, you can import it in your plugin
austere ivy
jade ember
vestal jasper
Please let's not have the threading discussion for the 40th day in a row
austere ivy
ok then just this part
not only does it frustrate me when people say Java is the reason of poor performance, but oh boy we're gonna kill all performance when we try to do accurate shadows for items
vestal jasper
Lax please
vagrant niche
I wish paper/spigot provided the whole maven central
vestal jasper
Fuck off lax lol I knew you were gonna shit post before you even hit enter
vagrant niche
That's like predicting you're gonna die if you go inside the sun
tired heath
Actually that has not been proofen so far
potent fossil
lax and i are best friends
tired heath
It has a switch to detect if it is open, so it will not turn on
austere ivy
funny, I've never seen Lax before
potent fossil
you're not cool enough
austere ivy
funny
cedar spade
ha ha ha
austere ivy
on an unrelated note, I finally compiled aseprite
not that it was much hard but man, it's way better than GIMP for pixel art
dam barty out here with the original insults
cunning raft
don't think he was talking to you brian
golden gust
especially when you have to consider all loads you're gonna see
vagrant niche
oh yeah, all the loads
golden gust
optimizing for 4 players is totally different to optimizing for 500
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speaking of micro
golden gust
i thought u was talking about ur tent
vagrant niche
its a chronic illness
tired heath
cunning raft
thanks i hate it
austere ivy
not to be rude, at all, in fact it looks great, I just think it's funny: https://old.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/gxnpdf/i_made_a_rounder_enderpearl_by_adding_pixels_do/
limber knotBOT
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austere ivy
artists: spend weeks crafting a beautiful texture pack with hi-res textures maybe a thousand upvotes
this person: spends a bit on one single texture, get 50k upvotes
tired heath
sounds fair to me
austere ivy
that is the way. what can I say, though? I got 42k upvotes on a 3-second loweffort comparison post
More pixel = less fps
@still smelt unironically that is true though, right?
if I load up a 512x resourcepack I get far less FPS than with a 16x one
golden gust
depends on where it was, really; players generally aren't looking towards dealing with texturepacks, especially the people who are more into aesphetics who play online who wanna ensure that their builds look awesome to everyone, etc
tired heath
You want less FPS, go and try the new blender mode for transparant tex. also known as "fabulous mode"
austere ivy
hahaha whew boy I did try that
I have to admit, 1.16 does run great clientside.
Maybe even close to 1.12.
Far, far better than 1.13.
Anyway, fabulous mode absolutely destroyed and demolished my FPS, not only that but introduced a bunch of stuttering. I wonder if it's worth it.
I barely noticed a difference, I mean water renders correctly behind transparent items so I guess there's what?
tired heath
But isn't it worth it, all the prettiness it brings to your monitor
๐
You have to go to nether fog or cloudy areas
you will mostly notice a diffrence in fog
otherwise it is hard to see at all
drowsy canyon
Hi guys, i'm looking for a plugin but i cant find, maybe you know..
I need to prevent items and exp drops whit some types of deaths, example:
"<player> fell out of the world" or "<player> suffocated in a wall"..
Do you know anything like this?
tired heath
Sorry, I don't know a plugin, but if you can code, it will be one file with one event https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/event/entity/PlayerDeathEvent.html
desert bridge
pearl vapor
I am in need of a plugin that automatically opens a book GUI like on Hypixel. Does anyone know a plugin/way to do this?
potent fossil
idk of a plugin but i added that functionality into paper so it would be extremely easy to create
player.openBook()
drowsy canyon
potent fossil
yea that works
pearl vapor
Thank you!
potent fossil
the method i added lets you use message builder tho :D
pearl vapor
Ok thanks
potent fossil
:////////////////////
worn ember
man, spigot active times are so weird, on some releases i get like 50 downloads and others like 5
pearl vapor
@potent fossil Do you know a way to do the thing you described player.openBook() with a custom command in EssentialsX? I want to make a /resource command and when you run it it opens that book.
worn ember
300 downloads for an RTP plugin aint too bad tho ๐
potent fossil
@vernal moth what is that issue syntax? GH-14? is that just synonymous to #14?
@potent fossil Do you know a way to do the thing you described player.openBook() with a custom command in EssentialsX? I want to make a /resource command and when you run it it opens that book.
@pearl vapor sorry you can't, it has to be done from code
you could hire somebody to make what you need
pearl vapor
Ok thanks
worn ember
or just download one of those plugins for free ๐
potent fossil
yup that would be 1st choice if they satisfy the requirement
worn ember
its 2020 people, plz
potent fossil
lul
worn ember
omg stop
potent fossil
alright im hopping over to winblows to play NMS
worn ember
no mans sky?
pearl vapor
Is there a way to load the server resource pack by a command? For an example when you click the green **Click to load! **button it loads on this server it loads the resource pack.
golden gust
with a plugin, yea, sure
No idea what would specifically exist for that specific use case, but it's 100% doable
pearl vapor
thanks!
pearl vapor
Yes but i would like a command like /resource with a menu like the one in the image
worn ember
ok, but why?
pearl vapor
It's hard to explain
Just something I think would be cool, and I wanted to see if i could do it.
vagrant niche
ey an1 wna add me on myspace?
worn ember
i thought you had to be 16 to use it?
vagrant niche
oh srry, I'll wait a few years for u to add me then
tired heath
Sorry I don't have any Myspace, wanna connect on MSN Messenger=
worn ember
buzzers were the shit
lament patio
Not boomer enough, let's talk on IRC Hides
unreal quarry
IRC? pfft. ICQ
potent fossil
march 1st i had $8000 in debt
i just paid off the last amount
im a free man babey
except for the fact that i had a heart attack and now i owe the hospital $2000
other than that
potent fossil
ima free man babey
maiden wyvern
@potent fossil nice bro.
austere ivy
@potent fossil how'd you do it? budgeting or what kinda thing
unreal quarry
selling coke
potent fossil
ya dat sucked
and honestly i just dodged the calls from the companies until they sold my debt to collectors who i also dodged and then the collectors got desperate and offered me settlements so i took them when it was convenient for me and then covid hit but i went on unemployment and i paid this one off with unemployment money
so yea, dont pull a simple
but it works!
austere ivy
huh
waxen panther
lmfao
austere ivy
that
waxen panther
thats quite the scheme
austere ivy
seems questionable but ok
austere ivy
who even am I?
unreal quarry
this whole pandemic/unemployment thing is weird for everyone. my ex was supposed to go to jail for $300k in back child support. she got out of it because unemployment, govmt is taking $700/wk of it and sending it to me lol
austere ivy
it's nuts, I know people who are making more than they did with an actual job
waxen panther
Quarantine has been great for me
waxen panther
Instead of having to do my finals I just got my predicted grades of AAB, definitely would've done much worse if I actually had to do the exams lol
golden gust
The number of companies which can do WFH during a pandemic which apparently can't during standard ops is pretty amazing
potent fossil
are we headed for a major economic depression
lol nah fuck it
cant be
lets go spend
potent fossil
i agree
austere ivy
bruh good idea
potent fossil
brian your pfp looks like a swastika what is that
austere ivy
so I was thinking of running for president, I plan on doing it by promising everyone $10,000 a week no matter who you are. my train of thought is:
- we're already in a ton of debt, what will a little more do?
- it'll work for the time that I'm president anyway.
uh
it's not
potent fossil
it looks like one though
waxen panther
just print more money?
austere ivy
to be completely honest I have no idea what it is, I whipped it up in GIMP in 10 minutes because I was tired of my current pfp
I call it "tesselact" but who knows what it is
I need to get around to making consistent, good branding for myself (or whatever) but I first want a new name for everything, I quite hate TehBrian
oh gosh you're right it kind of does look like one.
potent fossil
i have a new pfp now
potent fossil
nobody
austere ivy
whoever posts an image in chat I'll use that as my pfp for like a day or two maybe till I get tired of it
waxen panther
potent fossil
waxen panther
i have to be a whitename for 2 days now 
austere ivy
one day, simple
austere ivy
one freaking day
golden gust
paperspigot
limber knotBOT
@golden gust [Auto] We're now known as Paper.
kindred storm
Paper with release candidates
incredible
I thought that kind of organised release system was unique to everything but MC
golden gust
there is sponge
wonder how many people are on their RBs, vs using the master branch
issue with RBs is that you often have a large set of potentially technical changes swooping in, so it's harder to see when a commit breaks something unless people are tracking them
You also end up with people not using the RB for the improvements/bug fixes
kindred storm
RB? release build?
golden gust
Yea
Well
recommended
They have a community of people who basically test canidates for the next RB and everything these days last I knew
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RBs aren't really suitable for 1.15
golden gust
community sorta adopted them to adopt that lol
golden gust
and yea, too volitate, too many stupid issues which still need fixing before we can recommend 1.15 at all... :L
Still better than 1.14, however
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Release Cuild
slim nymph
it means its even more riskier than normal
slim nymph
oh i see both words got said, i saw your 2nd msg with RB in response lol
kindred storm
I'm just glad to see Paper rolling out the RCs, since that's not something I'd expect
in a good way
golden gust
Well, that's for testing an improvement, we do often do that for changes which are somewhat potentially unstable
waxen panther
Yeah thats every leaf PR
merry obsidian
jagged egret
Can someone remind me what the buildtools argument is for installing bukkit into the local maven repo
waxen panther
I assume you mean CraftBukkit?
thank you spigotmc
nah its spigots official anime girl representative
its a new feature by md
๐
why do people use ultra permissions 
bored of seeing people having issues with it
waxen panther
shell vine
waxen panther
wtf wtf wtf
not me
fake
yes i agree
i hate my spigot account
i have a capital B on my username
waxen panther
mm yes
donating to spigot
no thanks
i'd rather have that than a username with a capital B
ugly asf
aw
thank you
cosmic raft
lol
tired widget
tired bolt
vestal jasper
@waxen panther excuse me
vestal jasper
B
waxen panther
B
waxen panther
I can only program in html4, completely incapable at html5 
why doesn't my marquee work 
worn ember
dont you love it when premium plugins advertise with "extensive api" but you have no way to actually test if it works cuz you know, dont have the full plugin 
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premium plugin api 
worn ember
well the plugin has an api, but i dont know if it even works cuz i cant build the plugin to test
and i'm not paying $15 to add support for some plugin lul
static badge
do you actually need to buy it to add support
they don't provide some api jar you can build against...?
oh what am I thinking
these are plugins
worn ember
i wouldnt know cuz theres no docs ๐
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worn ember
oh it does have a build.gradle so ig i could
thank god i bookmarked this https://maven.apache.org/guides/mini/guide-3rd-party-jars-local.html
tired heath
Does anyone know how I could apply the player to always sprint in 1.15.2 โ even if i set setSprint on join to true, he will always fall back to walk, when moving side or backwards only. I set "setSprint" on now onPlayerMove event but it feels kinda not the most performant way to do it?
why you pepega me, i'm right xD
tired heath
Hmm well if there isn't any other solution, I might do that.
waxen panther
pretty sure client can override shit like that
tired heath
Yeah, alreday did it, but is only listening on player toggling
worn ember
what about hunger
tired heath
na, is off
worn ember
you cant sprint if ur hungry
golden gust
the client is 100000% in control of that one
heady spear
Bruh the weird girl is at the gym annnnnnd I canโt do deadlifts when other people are around lel
golden gust
best you can do is probs modify their movement speed
worn ember
ah yeah deadlifting at 5am
heady spear
If I fart a lot do yโall reckon sheโll leave?
worn ember
you baffoon go back to bed
heady spear
I never slept
worn ember
neat smelt
https://dev.bukkit.org/projects/anti-sprint
reverse that plugin pepega
thorny totem
Rip 1.16 pre2 is out
worn ember
just give them some speed II
tired heath
The point is I do a OpenArena remake and I just don't find nice movment settings.
When I just set the walk speed (only option on a player) than it will just walk fast, jump speed will remain and he can still sprint. Is little bit anoying, only other way is a potion effect what also feels kinda not right, I wanted to reprogram a strafe jump behaivor, if you jump in the right periode. Actually it works
But bruh is hard to find a optimal balance
neat smelt
tired heath
yeah
neat smelt
heady spear
Give them big boi velocity when they move
worn ember
just yeet them at mach 3
neat smelt
xD
heady spear
Bro corona doesnโt infect you if youโre protesting so
tired heath
Well it will not help, I have to play around tomorrow until i find nice feeling movment
worn ember
#CoronaLivesMatter
tired heath
settings
heady spear
But also if youโre protesting in the middle of a pandemic then you suck
worn ember
says the dude who's afraid of women
heady spear
Although fighting police brutality by making sure a bunch of immune compromised people die is a big brain move
She is occupying my personal space
worn ember
well unlike you i'm actually going to go to bed now
waxen panther
coward
heady spear
Sleep is for the weak
tired heath
Anyways, I already remade the jumppads to feel original, that move suck will not hold me back
(Saying that to myself a few times might help)
worn ember
inb4 banned by anti-cheat for flying
waxen panther
Flying is not enabled on this server!
void void
slim nymph
lol stfuhillary is trending
heady spear
They wanna feel better about Boris
slim nymph
prob the kpop stans helping out
heady spear
What
slim nymph
anonymous has been hijacking any pro trump hashtag and flooding it with kpop
heady spear
Ah yay fuck democracy
slim nymph
well yeah anyone who sides with trump is against democracy, so got to fight that
heady spear
Actively silencing a group of people because you disagree with them is anti democratic and just kinda scummy
But 
slim nymph
incase you didnt know, americas been in a civil war past few years
heady spear
People that have experienced actual wars would probably disagree with your definition of a civil war
heady spear
Yeah well if things continue like this then you might end up with a real civil war
Also trump are fighting the EU over lobster tariffs so thereโs that
static badge
ah yes the USA
heady spear
Apparently he sent the lobster king over to negotiate with us
Our political leaders have gotten tired of his sporadic temper tantrums
Soon the IKEA ninjas will be trying to choke him with meatballs
peak dirge
K-pop fans are the real heroes, even moreso than the cops who are rioting
heady spear
Can these idiots just leave me alone ffs
heady spear
I wish discord had some tools that allowed you to actually moderate servers
short yarrow
yeah kinda weird they don't have that
heady spear
I ban people daily that just join to spam ping random notable server members
Also getting the server verified/partnered would be nice but they told us they donโt do that to modding communities
heady spear
I guess paper and enginehub were exceptions :)))
heady spear
But like itโs silly because we canโt get verified with 8000 members lol
vagrant niche
ye ikr, the stopped doin that shit
vagrant niche
we did too, dnied
heady spear
Were denied because it was related to game modding
Which is bs because... well... look at paper
vagrant niche
Just spend like $100 to get verified perks
short yarrow
guess they don't like your plugins!
heady spear
Iโm thinking of just creating a support forum and archiving the entire server
Discord requires too much moderation for it to be worth it
Plus searching is awful and I would prefer proper threads
vagrant niche
ey @potent fossil u think rpi 4 CPU can handle plex H265 10bit transcode?
my old laptop is struggling, so am thinkin of movin plex
short yarrow
I don't think people even use forums that much anymore. Discord is just so convenient
tired heath
I think i found now the sweet spot for movment speed, jump periode and straf jump speed, time to go to bed gn8
heady spear
I mean if we force them to then they will lol
vagrant niche
some will, most wont
merry talon
there's big potential for discord to add some sort of forums-like system
vagrant niche
ye but more spam
heady spear
I am logged into my personal account most of the time so I donโt get notifications
oak fiber
merry talon
guilded has a team of a few people and just copied discord in a couple months except like way better
threads, events, etc
tired heath
the only usefull feature is the venity url and know what Discord
merry talon
exactly
heady spear
Same
But itโs bad
And itโs down every other second on top of that
Rocket chat looks cool
fallen oracle
Sup
heady spear
But like if weโre asleep then the support requests get lost in the support channel so people end up not getting help
I guess I need to get ahold of American support staff
waxen panther
fallen oracle
You gotta have an in with them.
heady spear
Most of the time they reply with unhelpful bs anyway
You gotta make 10 tickets to get a real answer
fallen oracle
Lol, someone posted an error stacktrace today and he was 20 updates behind.
I wonder why it's erroring...
heady spear
Someone claimed HV was broken yesterday and he was 200 paper builds behind D:
heady spear
I prefer posting updates every couple of months and making them more worthwhile but that leads to awful spigot sales
You kinda have to post updates every day to make any money from there lol
I mean you pretty much have to
fallen oracle
I do like every other week. I could do daily if I wanted to, but then people complain.
heady spear
I try to post every fortnight
fallen oracle
Oh you play Fornite?
heady spear
But this time itโll be way longer as I potentially broke the entire plugin in a semi-major update and people tend to dislike that
When I have finals I tend to rewrite all of PlotSquared internals
Itโs like productive procrastination
fallen oracle
Fortnite? ew lol. ok 9 year old. go play your shitty game. its so stupid and infested with 9 year olds. are you addicted to fortnite? i bet you are, 9 year old. are you stealing your mom's credit card and buying vbucks with it you 9 year old?
fallen oracle
No no nono
Here's what you do
You purposefully break something small each update, that way the next day you can fix it.
Repeat daily
Profit
heady spear
I donโt update plugins that post ambiguous change logs
Because chances are theyโll break random shit
fallen oracle
I generally keep a specific style for my changelogs. I wrote a generator for it.
heady spear
Ye your generator is cool
fallen oracle
heady spear
fallen oracle
Yooo I should totally write a wiki changlog to increase SEO or something
heady spear
I look at the commit list in my dev->master PR ๐
fallen oracle
You're welcome to use my generator if you want. It's configurable.
I got so tired of having to write it out for Discord and SpigotMC and other stuff.
heady spear
Glare, Iโve posted all v5 changelogs on the wiki, makes it super easy to point to specific versions when people ask questions and shit
fallen oracle
So it's write once, convert to all.
heady spear
In the future Iโll just link to the wiki
So if I have to change something I donโt have to do it in multiple places
Plus images r pretty
fallen oracle
Totally going to do that
heady spear
And then we can link to versions on feature pages
To make it super clear when they were added
Iโm pretty happy with our wiki in general. I update it whenever I update a feature in the plugin so itโs fairly up to date ads in
fallen oracle
With any luck... this will be markdown.
heady spear
wtf
Again**
Wiki.js is super sexy
Lacks a fair amount of features rn but itโs in active development
fallen oracle
Damn the default changelog is uh
Everything on 1 page
I think I'ma make it 1 per page
heady spear
I was kinda afraid itโd be node hell
But wiki.js is super solid
Plus I get to make use of my thousands of azure credits
restive briar
You also agree that tacos are tasty, and the best food in the world.
I dont like tacos, am I allowed to use paper?
potent fossil
yeah, no
if you dont agree to the eula then you cant use paper
@cosmic raft we got a dumb taco hater here
fallen oracle
Sick okay changelgos added
vagrant niche
tacos lul
fallen oracle
For 1 project at least
shell vine
i just ate shrimp tacos
fallen oracle
Damn that sounds yummy
I had brisket tonight.
Time to figure out what to eat now.
shell vine
i just love it when people use concurrenthashmaps instead of streams or a iterator ๐
and surprise there is lag
heady spear
@fallen oracle show meee
vagrant niche
buut no cm,es!
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instead of streams
heady spear
i just love it when people use concurrenthashmaps instead of streams or a iterator
they what now
shell vine
Yea is that not the right term
fallen oracle
First time I've ever heard of ass referred to as "pumpkin pie".
potent fossil
if by pumpkin pie you mean @heady spear's ass, then your first slice is mine
and all subsequent slices are as well
half wing
f
fallen oracle
Simple is a player.
half wing
sรถmp
fallen oracle
Calls me daddy, but hitting on other people.
potent fossil
fallen oracle
Time to watch some GTARP
potent fossil
GTARP?
heady spear
GTA RP
vagrant niche
wat does it meaaan
spice finch
vestal jasper
There are two types of people
Those who like tacos
And those who are lying
heady spear
I've had a graphql related tab open for a month, does that count?
fallen oracle
Yes
vernal moth
anyone used graphql before?
@potent fossil no not really
@vernal moth what is that issue syntax? GH-14? is that just synonymous to #14?
@potent fossil ye
Am used to PROJECTKEY-ID from work for jira
potent fossil
oo
void void
void void
vernal moth
Hey
shell vine
just discovered a high traffic table thats only supposed to have a few rows of data at a time had two years worth of data from 2014 and 2015 in it left over
like has a lot of queries done on it and is cleared often
was wondering why mysql usage was so high
glossy saddle
potent fossil
wat
gilded bridge
potent fossil
@void void wat
minor badge
@potent fossil stupid
potent fossil
NO
minor badge
yes
potent fossil
why
o about graphql
ok
@void void
am have a type:
type UserProfile {
owner: String!,
avatar: String,
biography: String
}
and a mutation
mutation CreateUserProfile($input: CreateUserProfileInput!, $condition: ModelUserProfileConditionInput) {
createUserProfile(input: $input, condition: $condition) {
owner
avatarUrl
biography
createdAt
updatedAt
}
)
(the mutation was generated for me by AWS Amplify)
so, I call the mutation like this:
await API.graphql(
graphqlOperation(createUserProfile, {
input: {
owner: owner
}
})
and it screams that i have null values for type String (because I didn't pass in avatarUrl or biography).
but they're nullable.
so unless im misunderstanding what nullable means in the context of GQL (aka, to me it means omittable...) then something is wrong.
ignore theAPI and graphql methods and stuff, it's provided by AWS Amplify's lib
so yh idk im not sure if this is a problem due to amplify or if it's gql related
merry talon
@shell vine sounds like something you should be using redis for 
void void
i'll see in 30min, shit to read on phone
minor badge
is this ts
polar frost
potent fossil
it is
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ah epic
void void
i haven't used AWS stuff myself, i've done apollo-graphql and graphql-clj
potent fossil
ok hold on
cosmic raft
oh lord
potent fossil
im getting the output of AWS's shit
void void
graphql is not satanic
cosmic raft
yes it is
void void
heck, github api via gql is more pleasant
cosmic raft
I disagree
void void
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
potent fossil
uh hold on
yeah
for some reason the 'compiled' one has them set non-null
even if mine is nullable...
void void
i bet someone makes v3 -> v4 proxy
kashike
reimplementing v3 on top of github's v4
there are madlads like that out there in this world :p
void void
why?
cosmic raft
because you have to manually write the dumb queries and shit
void void
with REST you have to write similar thing though?
cosmic raft
nope, I can serialise my objects into json :)
void void
if you have something better then it's amazing, whatevs
potent fossil
im actually just using aws amplify, which says write ur schema and then we'll gen u ur queries, mutations, and subscriptions
so its quite nice
i think i just had a bad state
possibly
void void
black box solutions are always hairy
potent fossil
yea, i was using mongodb stitch which was good until i found out their api is shit
amplify is nice, api not shit (as in, actually has a method to let ppl change their fuckin pw)
void void
mongodb stitch is yikes
potent fossil
idk tho. i mean, i can easily write a backend with auth but when it comes to auth that shit makes me nervous
i mean shit
i can do jwt auth
ez, secure enough
but someone who is auth god will be like
"wtf"
"thats so insecure"
"this and that blablabla"
so i've been using auth providers
like auth0 or in this case aws cognito
void void
jwt's (and similar solutions') biggest downside so far imo is that you can't invalidate the tokens easily
potent fossil
yea, that's true
every auth system i write is usually stateless, i havent stored sessions
so idk. i can write auth i just feel like im a shit tier at implementing that properly
potent fossil
lmao. yea, ok, the compiled gql i had was just out of date and had non-null modifiers
recompiled, works
ignore me
pearl vapor
Does anybody know if you can have color codes in the shutdown message in bukkit.yml?
kindred storm
try it and see
tulip inlet
color codes like ยงc work there
pearl vapor
I tried it the normal way with & but it didn't work, I was wondering if you could do it any other way.
ok thank you
spice finch
Anyone using kotlin knows why application plugin no longer has mainClass field?
my IDE sees only mainClassName
which isn't the same I guess
because I'm getting error no main manifest attribute, in [pathToJarFile]
worn ember
If(player.getIq() < 60) return;
ebon skiff
quasi valley
NegativeArraySizeException for you that is
tired heath
Something like that maybe?
If(player.getIq() < 60) {
try {
player.setAI(true);
} catch(Exception e) {
player.sendMessage("Ever heard of Roblox?");
player.kickPlayer("Go play Roblox");
}
wispy forum
void void
lavish nexus
still cape
anyone know how to remove the particle effects from night vision potion effect on 1.15.2? i had an old command but it's not working and the stupid things are ruining my screenshots.
well i was hoping with just a command in game, i'm a server owner
not a dev
just for use in game on myself/admins
oh
tulip inlet
iirc its /effect give ... night_vision 100 1 true
the true at the end disables the particles
still cape
done thank you
i didn't know it was there
does it?
but the setting worked, good to know there is a command too, ima try it
ok the command worked too thank you!
balmy isle
meager mirage
woven marsh
dusty nimbus
sage solar
twilit frigate
Yo
minor badge
yuh
twilit frigate
I'm thinking of updating my 1.12 server to 1.15.2, but i've got 43 plugins. Is there a way for me to auto-update / semi auto-update my plugins and files?
minor badge
no
twilit frigate
Rippp
waxen panther
austere ivy
I am so privileged to have started with Java
Trying to compile Aseprite which is c++ I believe is utter hell
I take for granted the fact that you just press "compile" or whatever and it works wherever, whenever
No wonder people like coding for the JDK
minor badge
for the JVM ya mean?
vernal moth
Write once run everywhere is part of why java became so successful
worn ember
When to bump versions? Lets say i implement a feature, do i update the version in that commit? A different commit with a version bump? Or something else?
vernal moth
You bump when you release
Normally you wait a bit, have a testing phase, etc
If you are on npm however, every commit is a release
worn ember
just on github :p alright
so lets say i push to dev, i dont update the version until i'm ready to push to master?
vagrant niche
Yes
worn ember
what about the SNAPSHOT thing? Is that a thing people actually do?
bump version, add -SNAPSHOT and yeet it to production kappa
vernal moth
Normally you create a release and the next commit adds the snapshot back
See maven release plugin
MiniMessage has that setup for example, check the commits on master
worn ember
Can you send me the link?
vernal moth
When I commit to master, GitHub actions kicks in and runs maven release
tired heath
SUP
tired heath
By the way, since I'm not nativ in Java, I was wondering, when I do a for example a Player index, what has a Hasmap UUID to my PlayerStorageModel, and I delete player on event (like disconnecting) I perform a .remove() on the Hasmap. Would it benefit form any additional step to explicitly delete the object and free the memory or will the java GB just do the job and remove on a hasmap is fine.
Not a bing thing, just interessting for me
waxen panther
removing is enough
tired heath
ty
carmine hinge
is 1.16 perf actually better than 1.15?
tired heath
Well it is, now you can buy Skins like in CSGO
ornate spindle
so like, could all paper announcements be written on the forums and then just link the post in each announcement in discord. Gotta get those forums growing ya know
slim nymph
im actually planning to do that
quasi valley
then we just need for mini to finish hangar
void void
whats hangar?
quasi valley
void void
ooh that sounds nice
ornate spindle
https://ore.spongepowered.org/ basically this, but better
cunning raft
oh a package manager